Mayim Bialik's Breakdown - Part Two: Quantum Science Expert Explains How Your Thoughts Control Your Future, How to Erase Your Fears & Change Your Life

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

In part two of our interview with physicist & consciousness researcher Thomas Campbell, author of My Big T.O.E. (Theory of Everything), we're going beyond simulation & virtual reality theory and divin...g deep into practical meditation tips (especially for beginners and those who struggle with the practice), the surprising power of music & binaural beats, and how we can actually manifest our deepest fears. Campbell reveals the science behind neural retraining, why negativity feeds on itself, and the mind-blowing quantum mechanics proof of past lives and reincarnation. He also shares his thoughts on using drugs to unlock transcendental experiences and why most people struggle with decision-making. Don’t miss these life-changing insights on how to fundamentally transform who you are!   Thomas Campbell's My Big TOE trilogy, Exploring Consciousness and Everything Paranormal, and his audio files: https://www.my-big-toe.com/shop/mbt-product-overview/   BialikBreakdown.com YouTube.com/mayimbialik Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is past lives a thing? Basically, it's a wake-up call and it just says, reality is more complicated than you thought. What is a reactivation of trauma when people feel triggered? It's just fear. So here's the question everybody wants to know. How do you change who you are? There is a deep thing inside of you that says,
Starting point is 00:00:22 I want to be different. I want to not be reactive, not get angry, not get upset, not even get stressed. This is maybe one of the most important clarifications in terms of extrasensory perception that I think is out there. Learning paranormal things is a exercise that you go through to help develop your intuitive side. But that intuitive side opens you up to becoming love,
Starting point is 00:00:50 opens you up to more information, more choices, a bigger decision space, and suddenly you see yourself as a part of something a whole lot bigger than you. Logic requires a lot of information. Mostly you don't have that much information. I tend to live my life out of my intuition. When I sit down and let's say I meet you two, I walk in, I meet you too.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Well, I immediately get information about both of you. What'd you see? Welcome back to our breakdown. Today is Part 2 with Thomas Campbell, physicist and author of My Big Toe, his theory of Everything. If you haven't heard the first episode, you cannot listen to the second one without going back and hearing the first. You could. You could. You could listen. It holds up on its own, but there is so much good information in part one. Yes, we're going to be talking today about meditation, practical meditation tips, why binoral beats and a certain particular frequency
Starting point is 00:01:56 can help you get into meditation. We're also going to talk about trauma, fear, the intellectual processing we do that can take the place of the intuitive sense that we need to live in. We're also going to talk about some paranormal stuff, past lives and also ways to sort of approach your life with an opening of understanding. There's an infinite number of possibilities that you've already lived and that you could live and you get to experience the data of them all. One of the best explanations for how fear actually creates the thing that we're afraid of. I'm wildly excited to dive into the second part of this episode. Without further ado, here is Thomas Campbell back at the breakdown. Break it down.
Starting point is 00:02:39 So some of the movement that we've seen, and you've seen it in your lifetime, and, you know, we're seeing kind of a resurgence of it, is a strong emphasis on transcendental experiences. And in many cases, people are using drugs to get there. And, you know, Timothy Leary had an entire platform, you know, about this, the notion that, you know, people who have an advanced consciousness, people who are in touch. with something greater than themselves. People who have an experience of God is love or that we're all one, right? Which, you know, there are drugs that can induce these states, as it were.
Starting point is 00:03:20 For some people, that is a pathway there. What's your sort of interpretation in terms of using that as a tool to access this consciousness? I think it's the wrong way to go. I think it's not, it may be helpful, around the edges, but it's not the main course. And the reason I say that is that everything that the drugs allow a person to do,
Starting point is 00:03:50 you can do without the drugs. None of those require drugs. Now, if you learn to do that on your own, you understand what you get. You know what you get. You're a part of what you're connecting to. You understand all the connections When you get blasted Into the non-physical
Starting point is 00:04:10 You know with a drug rocket And then you crash on the other side Oh geez that was awesome That was beautiful colors and this and that And I was one with everything And yeah that was really great But that doesn't help you grow up any It doesn't really help you grow up any
Starting point is 00:04:27 You're still the same person Now okay your beliefs have changed Belief sent the thing You have to change who you are. You have to become kinder. It's not that you act kind. Now maybe that'll get a lot of people to act better. Oh yeah, I say it's all about love. Okay, I'll act better.
Starting point is 00:04:47 See that little old lady, I'll help her across the street. That's not the point. It's not acting kind that's valuable. It's being kind that's valuable. And that only happens if you change who you are. Taking a drug doesn't help you change who you are. It may give you a bigger picture, it's a bigger picture that you can believe in, but it's not really your experience. You don't own it. You don't learn from it like you learn from it when you do it organically yourself. So you have to make changes in order to do those things. And it's a changing process, like all the paranormal things. The paranormal things aren't important in and of the cells. And anybody who does paranormal things
Starting point is 00:05:30 eventually grows out of it. You don't do it anymore. You quit. You stop with it. it because you realize everything is just the way it's supposed to be. It's a process. Learning paranormal things is an exercise that you go through to help develop your intuitive side. But that intuitive side opens you up to becoming love, opens you up to more information, more choices, a bigger decision space, and suddenly you see yourself as a part of something a whole lot bigger than you. And this something is intelligent, is aware, is real, and you can connect to it. But if you don't develop that intuitive side, then it's all theory. Oh, yes, I should do this. I should pray six times a day. I should, whatever. It's just, it's going through the motions.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And you get blown up on a drug rocket, and it's the same thing. You're taking the pill, but you're not really owning the experience. You're just having the experience. So it's like going in a roller coaster, and you go, wow, that was great. Let's do it again. But it doesn't really change who you are. It's a peak experience in your life. You'll always remember that roller coaster with its 10 flips, but it didn't really change you any. So that's the way drug is. It doesn't really change people. And I've noticed that it does something that's not so good with people. It makes them feel like they're more spiritual and they have a deeper understanding. Oh, I've shake the hand of God and I've been there and I felt I was one with all existence and yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:02 I got that now. I'm so much better off. And they started thinking that they've gained spiritually because of their experience. And experience does not cause it to be spiritual. That has to be changing who you are at a fundamental level. So here's the question everybody wants to know. How do you change who you are? Well, there are some processes that help. But the main thing is that you have to really want to.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Now, a lot of people say, oh, yeah, I'd love to grow up and I'd love to change. I'll help the little old lady across the street. But again, they're working out of their intellect. They're trying to be grown up. It's like 12-year-olds, right? They're really trying real hard to be grown up. But they're not grown up. They have to change who they are to grow up.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Well, it's the same way. So the most important thing is that you really want to. And that sounds pretty easy, but it isn't. To really want to means that there is a deep thing inside of you that says, I want to be different. I want to not be reactive, not get angry, not get upset, not even get stressed. I want to not, somebody insults me, I want to not fight back. I want to not do any of those things. I just want to be love and caring for people.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And if somebody's rude to me, well, gee, maybe. I can help them see it from a different perspective rather than reacting to it and getting angry. I need to get rid of my ego. I need to get rid of my beliefs. I need to get rid of my fear. And if you really want to do it, then it'll happen because your intent will modify future probability. And you will become it, but you have to want to do it seriously. Now, if all you want to do is look better, then it won't help.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You can do all those things, but it's not about doing. It's about being. and being can only be done if you have a real serious desire to change who you are. You see yourself as the problem. You take responsibility for who you are. You can't say, oh, George made me angry. He made me so angry. Well, George didn't make you angry.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You chose to be angry. There was some fear in you that when George said that, it triggered that fear, and you come up and you're angry. Take responsibility for it. Don't blame George. So when you take responsibility for who you are, take responsibility for your fear and your ego and you want to change, you will
Starting point is 00:09:40 because you will automatically do those things you need to do to change. You'll start looking and say, what are my fears? What is it that triggers me? Why do I get upset? Why do I feel stressed? And you'll find it. And you'll say, oh, okay, I feel kind of insignificant.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I feel like I'm not really doing it up to my ability. I feel I haven't helped enough people or I'm feeling insecure. And because of that insecurity, somebody mentioned something about me doing something wrong, I get angry because it triggers that insecurity that I have. So now I'm going to have to work on that. When somebody tells me I'm doing something wrong, I'm going to not react that way.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And I'm going to not be that way. But the first step is not reacting that way. Step one, intellectual. You've got to do that first because you have to be aware of it. Beware of the changes you need to make. That's the intellect. But then you have to actually be them, not just pretend and not just act, but be them. And if you really want to do it, you'll change.
Starting point is 00:10:44 You'll just start changing and those fears will start to fall away and you'll feel lighter. You'll feel better. Your stress levels will go down. You'll be healthier. And instead of eating a box of chocolates, you'll want to eat, you know, a box of spinach because your body just is telling you that's what your metabolism I mean your metabolic needs and your physiology actually does change from it does change from those things yes and your your whole interest in what you want to do and what you spend your time doing you know will change but it changes
Starting point is 00:11:15 from the inside out as you as you grow and once you start you don't notice it at first but your way you see whether you're growing or not is two things one you look back say where was I you know the last five years, how am I, am I the same way? And if you're the same way, then you haven't been growing. Usually people looking back of, wow, I was like that. Yeah, I remember that. You know, I'd get angry. I'd get upset. I was always crosswives with my coworkers. And now I'm not. So you'll see it looking back. Because it happens, you hardly notice, because it happens just the little tiny increments every day. My MBialx breakdown is supported by Superpower. We all know the feeling of leaving a doctor's
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Starting point is 00:13:56 it makes sense that a program to develop your consciousness should naturally start with finding and becoming acquainted with that consciousness. So one of the things you talk about is meditation is almost universally prescribed as the first step, the doorway to understanding and exploring consciousness as well as to the attainment of spiritual growth. So you happened upon meditation. And kind of by accident, you were introduced to transcendental meditation,
Starting point is 00:14:25 which here in Los Angeles is a very, very big, business. You pay a lot of money to get your mantra. And I was actually inspired because last night and you have, it's a really, what I love about your book is you start out by saying I'm going to take a lot of digressions, but you indicate them very clearly and I appreciate that so that you always get back to the point, but you take a huge, and I don't want to call it a digression, you take us on a huge field trip into understanding one of the most, basic ways and the way that you literally on your first experience were introduced to an ability to examine your own consciousness. And I was inspired. And last night, you know, I was always hung up
Starting point is 00:15:15 on like, you got to go get a mantra and you got to pay the money and the thing and you have to like commit to four sessions and they keep texting you. And like, it's like a, it feels strange. And so you literally were like, here's some options of mantras. find one. So I picked one. And I did it. I set a timer for 20 minutes. And I had the longest stretch of sleep that I've had in like a ridiculous amount of time.
Starting point is 00:15:45 And yes, it could be coincidence, but I'm going to keep doing it. And when I woke up this morning, it's the first thing I did is I set a timer for 20 minutes. And I sat. So one of the things that you do talk about and you go into. the science of it. But I wonder if you can talk about what it is to drop into this space. You talked a little earlier about having dropped into your childhood and had an experience. And that would fall under the category of out of body. Now let's talk a little bit about out of body. What does that mean? Okay. What's your doing? Oh, OB, you call it.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah, Ubi. Yes. That's a terrible name because you're not in your body. You're not a spirit that lives inside your body. That's old thing from probably the 1800s. But you are a piece of consciousness. So you're already in your consciousness. And your body is just a computed thing.
Starting point is 00:16:49 So out of body means that you have turned off all of your sense data. It's just that simple. So you no longer are seeing, hearing, feeling, smelling, tasting. Now, that doesn't mean that you can't say here. If the phone rings, you'll hear it. But you don't process it. Oh, the phone's ringing. Well, if you're expecting a really important call, then you'll get up and go answer it.
Starting point is 00:17:19 But if it's just the phone ringing and you're not expecting anything, you just let it ring until it stops. If you want to, you can think about, oh, I'm sitting. Can I feel the chair? Yes, you can feel the chair underneath of you, but you're not processing it. You get in the same state when you're reading a good book. When you sit down and read a good book and you're into that book, if somebody walks by behind your chair, you don't notice it. Even if somebody talks to you, you may not notice it unless they are loud or come up and touch you. You're in that space with that book. Now, getting into that deep meditation state is doing the same thing without a book. You just don't have the book, but you're in that same state where you are no longer processing your sense data. You can process it. If it's something intrusive, you'll notice it. But in general, you're not processing it.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You're not feeling the beds. You're not hearing the traffic outside. You just shut all that off. and that is your what I call the point consciousness state. That's the state that I said. When you shut all your sense data off, you're just a point of consciousness floating in a black void. See nothing here, nothing, whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Now that's like the launch point. That's the launch pad when you can do that. And sometimes you get that, like, I've had that literally for like not even a second. And then it's gone. And then it's gone. With practice, you can get there longer. Now, there is another method you can use besides meditation.
Starting point is 00:18:56 A lot of people have trouble with meditation, particularly people that have, you know, attention deficit disorder. Meditation is a real hard thing because their minds just buzzing around all the time. So it's just letting go of the physical world. That's the key. You just let go of it. You shouldn't assume that if you do it once, you're not the kind of person that can do it. It's like a muscle. It needs to be exercised.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Exactly. You get better at it, the longer you do it. Now, there are some AIDS that'll help. One of them is binaural beats. I've designed a whole set of binaural beats. It's like 30 different binaural beats at different base frequencies. So anyway, and I've done that on my about 40 years of dealing with people, teaching them how to do paranormal things, putting them in the state. So I've done that. And over the years... Can you explain what binaural beats are? Yeah, a binaural beat is a... You put two puritones, one in each year. It's an auditory stimulus. It's an auditory stimulus.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So pure tone number one, let's say 100 hertz, goes in this ear. Another, let's say, 104 hertz goes in that ear. Now, they go through the pathways of oral, you're a neuro girl. They go through the pathways. They get to the corpus callosum, which is the membrane between the two, hemispheres and they meet there. And when they meet there, they actually create a beat frequency. When you have a 100 and 104, if you just mix those, say, had a speaker here and a speaker here, 100 and 104, you'd hear a 4 hertz beat. You're hearing the difference.
Starting point is 00:20:36 You're hearing the difference between the two frequencies. And a 4 hertz beat would be like bum-bub-bub-bub-bub-bub-bub-b that's 1-2-3-4, every second you get a count of 4. That's 4-hirts. That's what hurts means is per second. Okay. So I didn't mean that to you. I meant that to your audience. No, it just made me happy because I'm a musician. And so when I also like teach music to my kids, you know, he's like, well, what is for for?
Starting point is 00:21:01 And I'm like, if you want to get metaphysical, it's, you know. So anyway, you hear these, you actually hear these beats. Right. Not through your normal hearing, but they're actually beating at the corpus callosum. The integration site. And it's not going through bone conduction or anything. anything else. They've done enough, they've done enough research on it that it's really beating inside the brain. And this has been found just through experimentation. Sorry, just neuroscientists.
Starting point is 00:21:30 By beating, you're talking about the integration of the electrical information, right, but it's the electrical information that's coming into a set of cells that are perceiving this is happening by opening sodium channels. Like it's a whole thing happening that allows you to perceive a beat. A beat of 4 hertz. Right. 100 and 104. If it's 100 and 110, you'll hear a 10 hertz beat. So they have found that this entrain's brainwave activity.
Starting point is 00:22:02 So if your brainwave activity is usually like this, it's going all over all different kinds of frequencies coming and going depending what's in your mind. And what happens is then it'll start to migrate down to 4 hertz. So more of your energy starts to go to 4 hertz. That's what they mean by entrain the brainwave. 4 Hertz is the basic thing you get with somebody is, it's the EEG you get with somebody who's a long-time meditator. So you get a monk out of his cell and put an EEG on him and let him meditate. And you'll see that his energy migrates to around 4 Hertz.
Starting point is 00:22:41 In that vicinity, it could be 3.85 or something. So you're picking this up as electrical impulses that can be picked up off the scalp for an EEG. Yeah, right. EG just on your head. So that idea that you can drive the brainwaves into a similar state that somebody who's been meditating for 10 years achieves, well, as it turns out, that really helps. If you put these binaural beats on and you listen to them, you will find that getting into the meditation state and holding it is much easier.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Are you following the beats? Like, are you listening to them? No, no, it's not listening to them. They just work whether you listen to them or not. It's a passive experience. It's a passive experience, yeah. Matter of fact, if you follow the beats, that will be your intellect,
Starting point is 00:23:34 and it will be getting in the way making the thing not work very well. Right. You need to just let it be, let it go. Now, my beats are very complex in the sense that I don't keep the beat frequency the same. move it around different things for different reasons. I make it run up for a very short time, like 30 seconds. I'll run it up to a low alpha just to wake people up because a lot of people
Starting point is 00:23:58 will lose consciousness when you do this. And so I wake them up every so often and then I drop them actually down into the delta for about two and a half seconds, three seconds, kind of drag them down a little bit and then I'll go back up to four and then I'll go back up to a I think I go up to like an eight and then back to the four and then maybe back to the two. So what's the four? Because there's data, there's theta, there's. Four is around theta. Great.
Starting point is 00:24:30 That's a theta state. Yep. So anyhow, so these are the binaural beats. And I've have, you know, I sell them at my website, and I don't sell it very much. I'm not really trying to make money. I'm trying to spread the ideas. So, you know, you can buy. one for, I don't know, $10 or $15 or something.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You buy a whole set of them for $25. But anyway, so the Binaw Beats help as a training aid. Now, like all training aids, you eventually need to take, you know, the training wheels off the bike. The training wheels will help you ride a bike because they'll keep you from falling over and then scaring you and not wanting to get back on. But they don't drive the bike. But if you really want to be good at a bicycle, you can't be good on a bicycle with training wheels touch the back of it because you won't be able to lean it and turn.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And there's things you can't do with them on. This is the same with the binaural beats. They will help the novice who isn't good at meditating to get there and stay there because these binaural beats that you listen to will last for, say, 50 minutes. So for 50 minutes, you're locked in to that state if you just let them run in your mind. And it will work real well for most people. Hypnosis is also dropping people into theta, correct? Yeah, because it drops them out of their intellect. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Anything that drops you out of your intellect is going to be good. Right. So the intellect crashes the intuitive mind. Now eventually, we're just changing the subject one after another, but eventually you learn that the intuitive mind and the intellectual mind work together. And they become good friends. and the intuitive mind says, oops, I need a little logic for this
Starting point is 00:26:15 and passes it over there and the intellect says, I need some information for this and it gets to the intuitive mind to go get the information and they work together as a team. But most people, like in our culture, we hone our intellectual capacity
Starting point is 00:26:29 and we work on it, we work on it our whole lives. The intuitive side, we just lie there. We don't use it. So it's way out of balance. They don't work as a team. the intellectual mind works as a bully.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And the intuitive mind tries to do something, the intellectual mind jumps in and says, let me take care of that. Oh, you just heard your dead grandfather say something? Nah, that probably wasn't that. That was just your imagination. That's what your intellect tells. And it just crashes the process.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So that's why it's so important to get that intellect to sit down and be quiet enough to let your intellect go. And let your intuitive side go. and that intellect wants the boss, wants to judge, wants to tell you what you're doing right or doing wrong, and people tend to jump into their intellect all the time. Oh, I've been meditating. Am I doing it right? Does this feel right? And so, I don't know, straight off your original question. The phrase, it's just my imagination.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah. Is one of the most painful phrases to me. Yes. Because is our imagination not the microscope or magnifying glass by which we look around this data field that exists to examine what's around us and what's possible? I told you there was another way other than meditation. That other way is through your imagination. You can skip meditation entirely and work with your imagination. But then you're just making things up. No. No. Yes. Thank you. You're not. You're not making things. up and here's the difference. Your imagination isn't the goal, isn't the end point. Your imagination
Starting point is 00:28:14 is just the launch pad. I have a thing that I made up. I called Tom's Park. And Tom's Park is for those people who have trouble meditating that just can't get there through meditation. In Tom's Park, what you do is you imagine. And the trick is you imagine some story. And the story's better if it's full of you see things, you hear things, you smell things, you touch things, it's got all your senses going, and it's very engaging. That's the kind of things you have to imagine. You're not just imagine sitting on a toadstool. You know, you have to imagine something that's very engaging. Now, that imagination, if you just get so absorbed in it, what will happen is that you will actually stop making it up and the story will take off on its own. So you're imagining that you're
Starting point is 00:29:15 swimming laps and you're driving a jet ski or whatever it is you're doing there. And as you get into it, you realize that you're not making it up anymore. You're having a conversation with a horse and you're not making up both parts. You're actually talking to a horse and the horse is talking to you and this is in your imagination. Well, what happens is? and I've kind of made an arrangement with the larger conscious system to support the Tom's Park thing, and you get there and you start, okay, and now you imagine you're talking to the horse, and the horse says hello or something that you imagine that a horse might say. But the more you get into it, then you're no longer making up all the parts.
Starting point is 00:29:58 It just happens on your own, and you're actually having a conversation with your horse, and you're not putting words in horse's mouth because the horse is saying things that you would never have thought of saying. The horse starts to tell you about an emotional problem you have had since you were three years old. Well, you're not making that up, you know, and you talk with it. It's an opening. It's an opening. So you use your imagination until you let it go and the larger conscious system will pick up to that story.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You and the horse and whatever and pick up from there and start giving you a data stream that picks up. on that. And now, you're the same place you were if you meditated. You're getting a data stream from the larger conscious system. You're humming along and what we call an out of body. And it's just as valid an out of body as if you went through the medication process. So, and this is, you know, this is the, it's, it's an imagination theory, right? In psychology, where you take, you take something that starts as imagination and it is showing you a window into your, your actual consciousness, meaning not just what you're consciously aware of, but it could be, and I don't mean to intellectualize it, but I'm going to. You know, it could be, these are the, we intellectuals can't
Starting point is 00:31:21 help that. Right, but it's like these are the things that, you know, these are the unconscious processes that are going on, which in a simulation theory kind of language, that's the, that's the program has been written. And you're simply tapping into the process. Right. Now, take one step more beyond that and say that you're a piece of consciousness and you're getting a data stream from the larger consciousness system. The system is interested in you growing up. The system is interested in you changing and becoming love. And it's going to feed you a data stream there. It's not just you wandering through your unconscious memories and things. You're actually getting a data stream from the LCS, larger conscious system, that is taking you through an interaction and experience, and you're going to learn from that experience. Something important is horse is going to tell you something you really need to know.
Starting point is 00:32:18 You say it's not just you wandering around in the unaware parts of your mind. You make a connection just like you would out of body, just like you would in meditation. and that connection is entirely real and effective. And why does the LCS do that? Well, as you lower your entropy, the system's entropy lowers. So it's all in its own self-interest to help you. I want to reiterate that point because it didn't totally land for me. And I was like listening, trying to like feel and sort of sort that out.
Starting point is 00:32:51 But what I'm hearing is if I make something up, which I don't ever believe I'm making anything up, if I go through this creative image. Part of our problem. If I go through this creative imagination exercise, and it's true, Mime's problem with me is that I go off into these, what could this be? And then of course, some of that has to be brought back and say, where is the tangible reality? And we can't do absolutely everything in the physical realm. I can incorporate a lot of it. You know, like there's a cost, for example, of redoing all the lighting in the studio or moving things or other practical implications of some of this creative imagination. But if I go and do an exercise like this, what I heard you say is that I'm going to learn something. It may not be that we do the lighting or, but some part of that experience will teach me something that lowers my entropy, that increases my overall well-being in some fashion or other that will also benefit the system.
Starting point is 00:33:51 So it's almost remove the end result and be more process engaged. Is that? Exactly right. Encouraging imagination. Yeah, it may be just doing the process. And just being aware of the process may be what you're supposed to learn, not the stuff that actually comes in. You know, sometimes it's not the thing you get.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It's the process of doing it is what's really valuable. And I've actually seen, you know, we got a little note from one of our producers who's listening who's like, well, what is the danger sometimes of doing something like this? And I have seen sort of the dark side of the wellness sort of alternative movement where they disassociate from their real world problems or situations and they're just lost in creative fantasy and they're not paying their bills and they don't know where they're going to live. They're not thinking about how they're impacting one another. So let's talk about that. Yeah. That's because they don't really understand what's going on and why it's going on.
Starting point is 00:34:56 There's three separate sources that will give you information. You get an information stream. Three possible sources of that. One source is the larger conscious system. That's typically how we get this reality. The other source is some other consciousness because there's a consciousness connection. And the third possibility is yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:21 You can create. You are consciousness. You can create information. So just summarizing. So there's the larger consciousness system. There's direct connection to another. Person's conscious. And yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:33 And yourself. So there's three different sources of this data stream. Now, they don't come with tags. This is you making it up. This is the larger conscious system. This is. It all feels the same. It all feels the same.
Starting point is 00:35:46 There's no tags on it. It's just information. You cannot tell the difference between those. This is maybe one of the most important clarifications in terms of extra sensory perception that I think is out there. Okay. You get all three, just information. You can't tell the difference.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Now, that means that, one, you have to be always skeptical of anything you get. It might be you that's creating this. That has to be a possibility. Now, it doesn't necessarily mean that what you're creating is a problem. Right. You just, that it could be coming from you. Now, if you happen to be full of fear and you're full of ego and you're full of beliefs, then there's a good chance that the stuff you get from you is garbage.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And it's not going to be helpful. It's consistent. I'd like to say it's consistent. It's going to probably move you to make poor choices. Or the same choices. Which are generally poor choices. Okay. It's getting a little personal there, right?
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah. Okay. So you have to always have that in mind. and you have to always be in charge of yourself. You have to be responsible for your own free will. Now, if you go and you're in some sort of state and God tells you to go shoot somebody or go jump off a bridge,
Starting point is 00:37:08 you have to think about that and say, what is my free will think about that? And my free will says, I don't think so. All right, then you follow what you're free... You have to be responsible for yourself. You don't go shoot somebody because God told you to do it, you see. Or God tells you that, you know, the way to heal is to eat nothing but spinach for the rest of your life. You know, well, that's unbalanced.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You know, that's not going to work. So you have to always look at everything and assess it and then make your own choice about it. And that choice is informed by your memory, your sense of responsibility, you know, whether you are trying to control with power and force or whether you're trying to become love, it's all part of how you make those choices. So that's, you never know for sure and you never will know for sure. Now, with practice, you'll know pretty much. You'll get, no, they don't come with tags.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So you can always be fooled. You'll never know 100%. But you can know 95% because you've done it thousands of times and you know what it feels like. when you're talking to the larger conscious system, you know what it feels like to get data in, you know what it feels like to communicate mind to mind, and those things are different in the way you process them. They're different in the way they feel when you get them. So you do, but you don't have a tag on it that says, I know for sure this didn't come from me. You can say, well, I'm 99.9% sure this didn't come from me, but you always leave that possibility,
Starting point is 00:38:46 which means your own free will needs to make the choice. A lot of people who are very intuitive, who practice meditation for a long time, can easily say, I'm not sure if I'm afraid of something, or I'm actually being shown not to do it. You know, there's sometimes when we try to make a step
Starting point is 00:39:05 that is outside of the patterns that we're used to, you know, we gravitate towards familiarity and pattern repetition. It's easy to be fooled. Without that experience, but with practice, it does become clearer where, you know, I can think back when I was thinking about buying that house years ago. When I moved out and disconnected from the owner's energy, I could feel all of a sudden I was really hijacked by the messages that they wanted me to buy that house so badly. And while I wanted it, I was getting clear that I shouldn't buy it. but it wasn't until I removed myself from that entanglement that I didn't even realize
Starting point is 00:39:50 how entangled I was that I could get clarity on what my true messaging was. Absolutely. That is the way things work. You take responsibility for your choices and you have to very seldom will you ever have a one or a zero in the probability. This is absolutely true. This is absolutely false. you almost never get to that point.
Starting point is 00:40:15 You don't have enough information to do that. You can say, I think this is probably, I'll give it a 90, or I think this is probably not right, I'll give it 10%, that that's true. And then as you get experience, you shuffle those percentages up or down or whatever way based on your new experience, but very seldom should you ever get a one.
Starting point is 00:40:35 And you need to be aware of your own, of your own issues, your own problems. So if you're somebody who really likes to please, that's just your personality. You just like to please. You know, if you're around people, you'll do things. Oh, you don't have to define it for me. I know what are people please are. You're looking at one.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah. If you're like that, then you have to be aware of that. Right. And if suddenly, you know, you get, oh, you have to buy this house. Well, you need to think, is that just me trying to please? because this person really wants, you know, to sell it to me or not, which means the way you figure that out is what you did. You remove yourself. And now do I still want to buy it that much, you know, or you say, well, I'm going to take a week where I'm not going to think about it.
Starting point is 00:41:22 I'm just not going to think about it at all for a week. And then I'm going to bring it back up and see if I feel the same. So you learn strategies for dealing with your own ego and fear. It's knowing yourself on a very deep level. Right. I'm going to say something about Jonathan that he may make us kind of. out of the episode. Probably. He talks to the universe and he sometimes asks it like which if he's looking at two protein
Starting point is 00:41:47 powders he asks which he should. But the protein powder example is not a good example. But I want him to, I want him to sort of speak to that because some people do have that kind of opening. It can energetically feel different. I'm not saying it's not a thing. I just want you to know what I'm living with. No, I use this tactic most often for much more specific decisions that are often beyond an intellectual understanding. Yes, I will actually try to feel food that may be beneficial for me or may not. I don't necessarily do it with protein powder.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I have done it with protein powder. It's not that I've never done it with protein powder. But she actually has, there's a picture of me that maybe we'll post for this. episode where we're in Ashland, Oregon, and I'm lying down and I have one hand over my heart, and I have the other hand using it as a muscle testing device as a tool to sort of feel a resonance. And really what I'm trying to do is instead of seeing or hearing, I'm sort of using auditory feedback, but also using physical feedback to sort of gauge where a resonance is. That was just should Miami be in the same room as me right now or not.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I don't remember what I, but she got, she has this picture of me and it's this Nice picture, but what it does speak to is my belief that we can ask for different scenarios or decision making. And I believe that fundamentally developing our intuitive capability and receptivity is a core part of transforming how we make decisions in this world to navigate towards a life that has more ease, more joy, more happiness. Because when only using the intellect were limited by what we can know and so much of what our experience might ultimately be. There are many times where I've only used intellect and been seriously disappointed and then used extrasensory ability. And everything on the surface would have seemed like this would have been a
Starting point is 00:43:56 great choice. And ultimately, I was super glad that I made a different decision. Well, the thing that you have to be careful with is that you don't give up your free will to some other chooser. I knew a lady who had a little pendulum and she'd hold it up. And if the pendulum went this way, was a yes, went that way, was a no. And she couldn't, you know. I know these people. She couldn't go to the bathroom unless she consulted the pendulum first. Her whole life was directed.
Starting point is 00:44:30 by this pendulum. And at that point, you're giving up your free will. And what will happen if you do that is that the system will make a correction. And your pendulum will tell you to take a long walk off a short period. And when you hit the water, that's the correction that says, make up your own mind. I'm not going to tell you how to live your life, the choices you have to make. You have to do. That's why you're here. You make choices. You evolve or do it, evolve according to you. your choices. Getting somebody else to make your choices for you is not a good idea. Make your own choices. Now, you want information that helps you make that choice. You want to get an idea, you know, look at it. Okay, what's the future probability say three years from now if I make a choice?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Five years from now if I make that choice. And you can go do analysis. You can think about it. You can feel about it. But in the end, it's your choice to make. And if you get in the mindset that, well I want to make the choice that they tell me that's the wrong mindset you have to say gather information now I'll make the choice and it'll be my you know my choice 100% my strategy is always let me feel a possibility of something gather that information integrate it back in and then use sort of a skeptical evaluation process but taking that extrasensory data and then bringing that back as part of my decision strategy. Yeah, that is good.
Starting point is 00:46:02 And I'll tell you, you know, about my own experience with that, is that the more you grow up, the more you work out of your intuitive side. When I was just a brash, young, arrogant physicist, I worked entirely out of my intellect. I ran my life with my intellect. Everything went through my intellect. Now, probably 80% of my life has lived through my intellect.
Starting point is 00:46:29 intuition. My intellect runs 20%, because your intuition, if you develop it, can be more accurate and more reliable than your intellect. And the reason for that is your intellect has this wonderful tool called logic, but logic requires a lot of information. You can't be deductively logical without a whole lot of information to give you to, and therefore, mostly you, you, you don't have that much information. So you get to some point and then you got a jump, which is, your intuition is making the jump, right? But if you do that from your intellect, make that jump, then it's a 50-50, whether it's good or bad, because your intellect isn't good at making guesses like that. It's your intuition that's good at that. So I tend to live my life out of my
Starting point is 00:47:21 intuition. So my intellect hops in when there's something that needs, you know, thinking, analysis, then it jumps in and does that. But when I sit down, and let's say I meet you two, I walk in, I meet you two. Well, I immediately get information about both of you, about who you are, how you feel, what you're thinking about. When I was younger, I'd get it in my intellect, and then I process it. But mostly now I don't. I get it because, see, I was living through my intellect.
Starting point is 00:47:54 So I needed to get the information, use the intellect, use the information. It's not like that now. Now I live out of my intuition. So I don't actually get it at the intellectual level. I get it at the intuitive level. So then I know maybe places to go and places not to go when I sit and talk with you and things that, you know, I get a feel for your energy, where you're coming from. And I get all of that in the first three seconds that, you know, as I walk in the door, that just comes because my mind, it's not that I have to look at you to get it. It doesn't have anything to do with your body. I could be a thousand miles away. Makes no difference. But when I come here and I walk in, then suddenly I'm a part of a thing that's going to take place. I gave birth in that
Starting point is 00:48:35 front room. I wonder if you could sense that. So I think about the vibes of a house though, right? When you walk into a house, you sometimes can tell like, ooh, something doesn't feel right. Yeah, yeah, sure. But it's the house, it's the people. I mean, it's everything. And my intellect no longer sorts it out. Oh, this person's dressed. This person's wearing a ball cap. What does that mean? It doesn't do any of that stuff. It's just... My head is very shiny on camera. It's just... My intuition picks up it, and it picks it up, and then I interact mostly with my intuition, not with my intellect. So it just takes care of itself, and I don't really bother. So when I get to the store and I get two kinds of protein or something I'm looking at, and my hand just goes and gets one of them. And that's okay. I'm all right with that. It happens to be the wrong one. Oh, that's okay. I'll be okay with that too.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So basically, if you don't have any expectations, then you never have any disappointment. That's a saying from Al-Anon. So you just deal with your life as it comes, mostly intuitive, and let it all wash out however it does. We have two things we'd like you to explain, meaning in terms of this frame, I'm curious because I've been learning about neural retraining programs, which are supposed to sort of calm the nervous system down and try and encourage limbic overactivation to calm down. And one of the sort of techniques of a lot of these neural retraining programs is very similar to what you were describing in terms of imagination. You have to imagine, as part of the protocol for one of these programs, you have to imagine, as part of the protocol for one of these programs, you have to imagine. Imagine a future scenario, make up anything you want, and you have to engage as many senses as possible.
Starting point is 00:50:28 What does the environment look like? And how do you feel? And what are you smelling? What are you tasting? You know, what is the color? Like if the feeling had a movement, make that movement, and all this stuff. And so the idea is to use imagination to sort of build and sustain a positive feeling, right? You're setting an intention for a future probability. But I'm curious if you can describe in the sort of language that you operate in, what is trauma? What is a reactivation of trauma? When people feel triggered, when we find ourselves going down the same pathway, the same negative thinking, the same perseverative, you know, thoughts and feelings. What is that in the system? What that is, it could be multiple things, but what it is dominantly is fear.
Starting point is 00:51:21 It's just fear. The person has a fear. It could be anything, but mostly the fears turn around things like inadequacy. Not being lovable, not being competent enough, being, you know, all those kinds of things. They have fears by being wrong, not getting it right. And those fears get triggered. They get triggered by somebody, you know, well, here's another thing. You know, if you have fears, you tend to create that reality.
Starting point is 00:51:57 You create it by your expectations. You create it out of your fear to be the things you fear. So, you know, here's an example I use often. You know, if I'm outside and I say, look, the sky's a beautiful blue. And most people would just say, yes, it is. Somebody who's very insecure would say, are you trying to tell me that I don't know what color the sky is? You see?
Starting point is 00:52:22 They interpret that because they're feeling insecure about not knowing, not being whatever. And they'll take that. I was trying to tell them that the sky was blue and then they get upset. I know that person. It's not you. They get angry then. So they won't, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:38 the comes up as a good example, is the guy who lived in New York City and was afraid of wild elephants. And he saw wild elephants everywhere. He saw, see that bush in the winds blowing around? There's an elephant hiding there. See that puddle on the ground? That's from an elephant's footprint. So he found signs of wild elephants all over New York City.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Well, of course, there are no wild elephants in New York City. But if you fear them, you'll find them. They're not wild at the zoo. But if you find, you know, if you fear something, you will tend to find that. Are we shifting the probability? Are we shifting the concept of a probability? Oh, if you're a negative and you have fears, those fears will make the probability of whatever you fear will make that come true. We make our fears come true.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And most people spend most of their time in a negative state. Very few of us just are happy and enjoy life and everything's fine. Mostly we're crunching over annoyances and things and people said this and then and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you know, and. And all of that negativity produces more probability for negativity. Just like being happy and positive makes a higher probability for happy positive things happening. So yes, you create your own reality in a couple of ways. One is by your thoughts, your intentions. If they're negative, you create negativity around you.
Starting point is 00:54:04 That's one way. The second way is by the way you interpret things. If you're negative, you tend to interpret things negatively. So suddenly your life is more full of negative stuff. But those are two powerful ways that you create your own reality. Through your intentions, change the probabilities, through the way you interpret the data. Okay? So yes, if you're positive, then your life has tended to be positive.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And people say something that would annoy you, well, it doesn't annoy you. Even if they just outright say something really ugly to you, you think, well, that's not about me. It's about them. I wonder why they said that. Maybe I should talk to them a little bit. Well, the entire culture of microdosing is trying to elevate everyone to that point. But again, yeah. But then you're using something to help you do something that you're not capable of doing. Well, that may be civilizing in the short term, but it doesn't help you grow up in the long term is the problem with it. Bruce Lipton talks about this on a cellular level and on an environmental level. I mean, it's, you know, we often say this to our listeners and our viewers, like, I don't know how many ways we can tell you. Like, it's all the same, right? It's all the same. It's about a connection with something greater than yourself, right? It's about understanding yourself on this deeper level. It's about, you know, being able to set an intention of positivity. It's also about doing the work in the moment when you do have a thought of annoyance or frustration that you have some tool or method by which you can pull yourself back from that in,
Starting point is 00:55:40 ingrained reaction to build the new pathway. More tools than others. But you are changing your reality, not just in a sense of your feelings, but you're actually changing your reality. The mind leads, the body follows. Your body reflects that. We create a lot of physical problems for ourselves. Well, autoimmune conditions rampant among women.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And it's not just in our bodies, but we create those attitudes that the people at the office then come at us with that upset us. Right. We create those attitudes. So if you're negative and unhappy, you'll create an environment that feeds your unhappiness. The other thing we wanted to talk about was past lives. And I don't know if you're familiar with the work of Jim Tucker, but I was recently turned on to the work of Jim Tucker, who's a psychiatrist. And he works with children who have very, very complicated recall of,
Starting point is 00:56:38 I don't even want to say past lives. They have a complete emotional and biographical recall. That is not something they've read on Wikipedia. It's not something that's a book that their parents read that they overheard. They have very complicated and elaborate, in many cases, emotional connection. Sometimes they have proclivities towards a profession that this past life, you know, and this happens in cultures that do not just have reincarnation as part of the vernacular. It happens in, you know, in Western cultures and things like this where it's not so much part of the vernacular.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Is past lives a thing? I've had regressions done. Like, I don't know. A lot of it is imagination, but then I'm thinking maybe it starts as imagination and then I'm pulling data. I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I can talk about that. There is this database that that, starts as that the system needs it in order to do the rendering of the virtual reality. The system needs to know what is possible? What are all the possibilities to happen next? This is in the future. What happens next? And what's the probability of that happening?
Starting point is 00:57:58 Right. Okay. That's important because the way the system tells what happens next, because it's a probability-based system and not a deterministic system, is it takes a random draw from a probability distribution of the possibilities. Now that's not a random draw from the possibilities. It doesn't just randomly draw a possibility, but from the probability distribution of the possibility,
Starting point is 00:58:17 so the things that are more probable and more likely to be drawn. That's how it decides what happens next, because it doesn't have a deterministic history to say what happens next. Like anything could happen. Yeah. So it could bring out that one in a million could happen. okay but it won't happen very often because it's not going to draw that but it won't be once every million times so that's how it determines what's next so in order to do that it needs a database that's basically of all
Starting point is 00:58:48 the things that could happen and the probability it would happen that's how the probability is designed yes that's that's how that's the database it needs so that when you dig a hole in your backyard what's going to be in their roots and rocks that's a highly probable a gold to blune and California, maybe. So there's a certain probability. Grandfather's pocket watch, you know, he lost it. It's possible. There's a lot of possibilities.
Starting point is 00:59:12 So one of them gets drawn out and that's what you find in a hole. Okay, so that's the way reality works. That's how you tell what happens next. Now, that database is a couple of things about it. One, the further it progresses out, the right here it gets. Because you're saying, given the last one was true, what's the next one? Given that one's true, what's the next one? So now the system, as somebody does something that's unexpected, you know, and we humans go off on wild hairs enough that we do things that are unexpected, then it has to recalculate the things that are downstream from that particular action. But it doesn't have to recalculate everything. So anyway, as time goes by, what was in the future becomes the present, goes into the past. So now you've got this big database that goes into the past of everything that could have happened and the probability that it would have. And through that big database,
Starting point is 01:00:02 is a thread that defines what actually did happen. But it's got all the possibilities and all their probabilities go with it because that was part of the future probable database. It just gets old and now it's passed. So you do have this database of everything that has happened. Everything that could have happened. And a thread of what did happen. So that's this big database that people talk about.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Now, yes, your past life is in there. And it's there with the data. Your past life at some point was a future possibility that didn't happen. Your past life was at one time a future possibility that did happen. That's the thread of what actually did happen. And there's a lot of things that didn't happen. But they're all carried here. So now you can go into that database and you can say,
Starting point is 01:00:56 I'd like to see what would have happened if I'd have married Susie instead of I married Sally, but I want to know what would happen if I had married Sissy. And I could say, I'd like to know that, let's say, give me a little vignettes every five years for 50 years. And then you'll get that information. Now this is a probability, not necessarily that it would have happened because you weren't making choices, but it would just go through the probabilities. And then you could say instead of giving me that as the most probable things that would have happened if I married the happened if I married Sally or Susie instead of Sally. You say, I want the third most likely
Starting point is 01:01:36 thing that would have happened. Then you'll get a different thing. That'll be the third most likely happened. All the data is in the database. You have to tell the database what it is you're looking for. So when people go back into that database, they don't understand that they need to have their intent make a query that is specific to what actually did happen. There's lots of probabilities in there. And if they don't know that, then they tend to wander around in probabilities rather than actually get the information that they're looking for. So that's one problem. Now, it's- So children aren't necessarily choosing this. No. Like it's dropping in like it's been down-like. Exactly. Now, there's a couple of reasons for that. The most common reason for that is,
Starting point is 01:02:22 you know, there was a good example. It was a little boy that was a airplane pilot that got shut down someplace and he knew the plane, he knew the kind of injury. He knew the kind of injury. He knew the guy's name. I mean, he knew everything about it and it all turned out to be true. All right. Now, why does that happen? Why does this happen to this little boy? Mostly, and there's various reasons, but the major reason is that the larger consciousness system is using this little boy's memory to help wake up a whole bunch of people and give them the message that life isn't as simple and straightforward as they thought there's other attributes to it and it has to do with beyond the physical. That's just opening people's minds because we're getting to this fast part of the curve
Starting point is 01:03:11 and people need to be aware of that. So there's all kinds of things the system does to help wake us up. Basically, it's a wake-up call and it just says reality is more complicated than you thought. It's not necessarily that this kid was that person or anything like that. They're using him as a messenger. Yes. So they can use him as a messenger to do that. He's got the right parents who are going to take it seriously.
Starting point is 01:03:36 They're going to write it all down. They're going to check it out. They go to ABC News. And so on. They're going to call all the news. So it's possible that that was his experience, but it doesn't have to be that way. He's just remembering something. He is remembering.
Starting point is 01:03:51 He's got all the memories. He's got all the details. They come right into his head when people ask him, well, what kind of plane was it? Comes right out of his mind. He's not remembering it. He just knows it. He just knows it, exactly. And that's what's going on for the most part. There's other things like that going on at the same time. What about people who have like a really intense sense or knowing that they have experienced other lifetimes or memories with someone in this form? Is it that they really did reincarnate from a different time period in history, or they're just remembering other possible timelines where their consciousnesses have interacted in different forms?
Starting point is 01:04:33 It could be either one, or it could be that the system is just putting that in their mind to tell them that life is more complex than they think. Or telling them that, hey, there's something special between this in moments, and increasing the weight of the importance. Exactly. So it's some sort of thing like that. that. I like that because it actually kind of lessens the need to convince people it's true or it's real because kind of whatever information we have is true and real because it exists in our consciousness. But you wouldn't want to say put that on a young child who was in a situation where instead of making the news and being an amazing thing, he gets put in an asylum or
Starting point is 01:05:16 a home for people who are having hallucinations and given drugs. so you wouldn't want to just let that happen to anybody. You'd have to pick the situation where it was going to turn out to be better. So I had a very interesting experience with my son when he was, I want to say about two and a half, between two and a half and three and a half. And I don't quite remember because it's, and the timeline's important because his language was somewhat limited. And so I don't remember when the language developed enough for him to not have this experience.
Starting point is 01:05:49 But there were, I don't know how many times a week it was, like three, four times a week that he would go to bed, be sleeping, and then he would wake up, like, wildly upset. But he was like still asleep while he was upset. And he was kind of screaming. And he would be saying he can't breathe. And we would try to wake him up and tell him he safe and whatnot. And, you know, his mom is on the... Yeah, she spends a lot of time exploring that realm and believed that she had been his mom once before and she had dates and times. And we did some creative exploration both together actually and kind of got different pieces of a puzzle that put me in his life as a caregiver, him as her son in a different lifetime or different time frame.
Starting point is 01:06:42 and that there was a fire and that he actually died in that fire as a young child. And this is over the course of like several weeks or even months where we're getting little pieces of this information. He's still having these night terrors and they keep getting worse.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And at one point he wakes up and he's screaming, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, and he's gasping and we tell him the story. And this is an old man. memory and at one point you were in danger and you're not in danger now and we're both here for you and you came to us and we love you and we're going to protect you but we tell him this whole story and he quiets down his eyes are never open during this when he's waking up in
Starting point is 01:07:27 night goes back to sleep never has another incident again yeah well sounds like you fixed the problem Sounds like you fixed the problem You know Again You can't be 100% sure Why anything happens Or the reason for anything happened Could be any number of things
Starting point is 01:07:50 The fact that it fixed him Then would make me think That there was some truth to that And just Giving that to his mind So he could locate it In his mind he's maybe in a fire But now this locates it as, oh, that was some time in the past and that da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 01:08:10 And suddenly for him it's like it comes into focus. Now he doesn't have to be so terrified of it. It's a memory. And he gets that, even if he's asleep. So it may be something like that. And indeed, that was what it took to fix it. And that you and your wife were getting information to help him fix that problem because you were aware that it was a problem.
Starting point is 01:08:34 problem and of course it's your child and you don't want the children to be in terror like that. So your mind is inquisitive. What is it? What could it be? And when your mind goes out like that, it pulls information in. So the information may or may not have been accurate. That's not the point. The point is that whether it was accurate or not, it worked. I mean, I'm getting extremely emotional because there's another piece to this. Uh-oh. As a kid, myself. My parents had a cottage north of the city that we grew up in. And for no reason that I can remember, when I would go to sleep in one of the bedrooms, I would constantly think about the large tree that was outside of that bedroom and think of what would happen if a fire came. How would I
Starting point is 01:09:20 escape the house and crawl down this tree? And the tree was really big. And I would, every in a time, only in that bedroom would I imagine myself having to escape. And I have like, I was, you know, I wouldn't say a rational fear of fire, but I am like, it really bothers me when there are wildfires. I'd say it's, it's, there's paralysis. There's emotional paralysis. I get very, it's significant. It's like I have an issue. Like, I think we should have clean air and I think that's important to be able to breathe. And I lived in a town that, you know, there was, it was a mountain town and it was in a little valley and smoke would come into the valley. And it often would not blow out. And, you know, you would have a QI of 150 and it's C. through the walls and everything smells it.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And then you get a headache and it's really unpleasant. And I had to, you know, I couldn't, never felt settled in that town because I loved it, but every summer I would have this experience. And I never had the fear of being burnt up. But now when I think about, I never put all three of those pieces together. The fear as a child, the past memory of that experience with my son and the information that came in. and then my present fire terror.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I don't know. I just, it all sort of like all of a sudden, all three of those blocks just became clear to me, and I was like, oh, wait a second. I'm turning off my intellectual brain. Yeah, often the things that happen, you'll find there's a lesson in there for all the participants, not just the one.
Starting point is 01:10:54 It wasn't just the sun, perhaps. It was also something for you, maybe something for your wife too. Often there's a lesson for everybody in that. That's just basically the way the system works. It's trying to optimize the possibility of you making better choices. It also is optimizing your son, not being so afraid. But it just tends to work that way.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Things that happen, the system's very efficient. And if it can get three birds with one stone, it'll do that. It'll come up with a way that that works because it's, It's got all the information. It knows every thought and emotion that you've had and it knows what emotions and thoughts you're likely to have and it knows what your past was like. It's got all the information. So it's not that hard for it to come up with something that will be a positive.
Starting point is 01:11:52 And even if it takes you 20 years to figure it out, that's all right. The information's in there for you to use when you're capable of using it. Before we let you go, what are the signs? that entropy needs to be reduced or that you are on the right path to reducing entropy? I think of it like as we move towards a more expanded consciousness life, are there, for example, synchronicities or moments that show us we're on the right path to help us continue? He gives different data than I do.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Let's let me go at the last one and then you can ask the other one again if I didn't address it. Yes, as you evolve, as you grow up, and that's not act better, but are better, okay, you will find that one, your decision space. Decision space is all the decisions you're aware of. Now, you may get to a fork in the road, and there'll be a decision of this way or that way. But I'm talking about decisions in general in your life, like there may be five possibilities that you see, and you have to decide which roads you're going to go down. But there actually maybe 20 possibilities, but you only see five of them because there's others are outside of your experience space. So out of those five define your decision space in that
Starting point is 01:13:20 problem. Okay. So decision space is what are the choices I have? And it doesn't matter if you're in jail for life, okay, you can't go home for Christmas, but there's other things you can do. So you always have decision space. You don't, you know, that's your free will to make those choices. That's basically what free will is, that you get to pick something that's in your decision space, even if your decision space is small because you're in prison. It's not as big as it was if you were out. Well, you still get the pick from the ones that you've got. Now, as you grow up, I say grow up for means, you know, increase your quality of your conscience, lower your entropy, all that. As you grow up, your decision space grows. The information
Starting point is 01:14:02 that you get grows. So you walk into a room and you understand it. You understand the people, where you're going, what you're going to do, and you feel comfortable with it. So that's more information than most people get. If somebody comes and says, oh, my grandmother's having a hard time doing something, something, you immediately know what's wrong with your grandmother, what's wrong, and what's you're going to get better, is you going to kill her, you get this information just because your mind goes, oh, poor grandma on it, and comes the information.
Starting point is 01:14:31 So you live in a different world with different amounts of information. and you tend to live in a world where you don't set your intellect working on that information. You just keep it in your, you know, in kind of your own space. It's in your own intuitive space that you know these things. You don't really operate on it. You do in the beginning because you're curious. Oh, does your grandmaba have this? You know, because you want to know if you got the right answer or not,
Starting point is 01:15:02 but eventually you get over that and you just live in that space. You find that your life is good. Synchronicities is a way of life. Things that are not normal happen to you daily, even hourly. Things just work out. It's one of those things, you know, if you were to fall into a cesspool, you'd probably find a gold brick at the bottom of it. You know, it's that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Life just works for you. And you kind of rely on that. And you don't really bother too much about how is this all going to work out because it'll work out however it does and it'll be fine. So you're relaxed. You don't have much stress. So yeah, you have all of that. The life gets more positive, gets better. Your life is generally full of joy and happiness and you feel satisfied. And you just go through each moment when it happens, you make your best choice.
Starting point is 01:16:02 You know, this is the way learning takes place. stuff happens and you get to make a choice. Now, most people try to manipulate the stuff that happens so that it happens in a way they like. That's where they spend their energy, trying to manipulate to have things come out the way they want them to come out, the way they know it's going to be best for everybody.
Starting point is 01:16:23 So they do that. But rather than spend time trying to manipulate things to come out the way you want, you just let them happen however they do. And when they do happen, you do your due diligence, which means you think about it, you feel about it. I sort of like you two different kinds of protein. You feel about it, and then you make a choice.
Starting point is 01:16:44 And then you look back at that choice and say, was that a good choice or a bad choice? And why? And then you learn something, and then you go on. So some people have a problem of making choices. Well, I don't know the right answer. What is the low entropy path? I've got five choices, and I don't know which one's low entropy. Of course you don't.
Starting point is 01:17:03 You never will. Get over it. You don't have to make the right choice. That's not, the life is not about making the right choice. Life is about learning, about growing up and becoming more. So you do your due diligence. You think about it. You get all the information. You try to think, what's the low entropy choice? And then you make it. And then you see what happens. And if it doesn't work out well, you'll learn from it. And that lowers the probability you'll do it again because you're aware and you learn from it. So you should never feel like, I don't know what the low entropy choice is. You don't have to. You just make a choice, learn from it. The worst thing you can do in this reality is make a choice and not learn from it. That's a bad choice. Yeah, if you don't learn from it, then you just get to do it again. And you keep doing it again and again and again for as many days or as many lifetimes as it takes for you to get it.
Starting point is 01:17:58 So that's kind of how things work. So yes, now I live mostly in intuitive space. And if you're aware of that sort of thing, you know, you tend to be turned into that. You'll notice that I'm here and I'm gone and my mind is kind of else and it comes back and it comes back with information. And it's not something I intellectually do. Oh, I have to go out and find that information. As I need it, it comes. And it comes as I need it, when I need it.
Starting point is 01:18:30 And for me, it's just the way life works if you need some information and it's available to you to help you make the choice. But you only get there by getting rid of the fear and the ego and the beliefs because those things scramble what you know. They make you come to wrong conclusions and then they take your information and garble it basically because your interpretation of that information is now twisted to fit your fears, twisted to fit your beliefs. And comparisons, disappointments, wanting something that didn't work out, we should really be seeing anything that doesn't work out as, oh, that wasn't supposed to happen and it wouldn't have been good for me if it did.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Yeah, for the most part, you do that, but it doesn't matter. You know, you don't have to justify everything. Stuff happens because it happens. Stuff may happen to me because somebody else made a decision to do this. I may have an accident out in a car because somebody made the wrong turn or thought it was a two-way street and was only a one-way street.
Starting point is 01:19:34 So stuff can happen to me. But my point is, I don't take it personally. It's just stuff happens. And I deal with it. So if I get a broken leg or something, then I wait for it to heal. And I probably learn something from the process of not being able to walk for a while
Starting point is 01:19:49 will be a learning thing. Learn to be patient. Learn to depend on others. Learn that you can't always do everything for yourself. So you turn everything into a learning situation. There's almost no experience you can have it. You can't learn something from. So life best becomes a series of learning.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Now, you're the person you were talking about. They said it was a series of tests. Well, yes, everything's a test. You get a broken leg. It's a test. What do you do? Feel sorry for yourself? Oh, woes me.
Starting point is 01:20:19 That jerk did this and that. You blame it on people. And you feel miserable. Well, it'll take your leg twice as long to heal. and you'll be unhappy and miserable and so on, whereas if it's my leg and I hope it heals well and good, and you put positive energy suddenly it heals twice as fast as anybody thought it would, and you're back up again and everything is fine. So it's not blaming others, it's not judging others, it's just accepting life as it comes and making
Starting point is 01:20:46 your best choices. And it's very simple. It's just a very simple way to go through life. And the more you grow up, the more information you have, have in order to make that work better. The more ego and fear and beliefs you have, the more you twist that process into something that is non-functional. So that's kind of how you get through life. It's just simple. Let stuff happen. Do due diligence, make a choice, learn from it, and go on. Before we let you go, are you a fun person? Like, like,
Starting point is 01:21:25 Do you like music, movies? Do you like, what do you, what's your... Okay, am I a fun person? Yes, I am a fun person. Can't you tell that I'm a fun person? But like, what kind of movies do you like? I don't watch movies very often because I don't find them very good. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:43 For the most part. And I'll have to tell you, I've never seen a single issue of the... Um... Uh, yeah, you know, Big Bang. Big Bang. I haven't watched commercial TV for probably 45 years. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Do you like music? I love music. What do you like? I like almost everything except I don't like so much country music. Okay. You and cows. Cows don't like country music either. I don't particularly like the country music.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I find a little whiny and very simplistic. I tend to like music. It's more complex. Okay. I tend to like fusion, jazz and rock. I like my rock kind of loud and screaming. Classic rock? What we used to call classic rock?
Starting point is 01:22:37 I like... Are you like a Fleetwood Mac person? Are you a Grateful Dead person? See, I don't know any of those names. Beatles? Yeah, well, I like all of that. Okay. I like music that's emotional.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Okay. The music, music, that it's all about the words. Yeah. I never listen to words. When I listen to music, there are no words. The voice is just another instrument. Interesting. I hear the voice and it does whatever it does.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Do you like classical music? I like classical music. I like classical music. I don't like all of it. Some is very repetitious. And it just kind of cycles, you know, it comes in cycles and it goes around. They have a lot going on in 18 and 15. It tends to be busy without being interesting.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Okay. Other classical music, I like. If it's not simple. Most folk music is boom, b'b, b'b, b'bom. You've got a little tune, it's a little tune, and it just repeats over and over again. I don't mind not being complex if somebody is really, I like blues. Okay. Blues are great because it's...
Starting point is 01:23:42 That's just three chords. It's emotional music. It's simple and it's repetitive in its form, but it is emotional. It's about feelings. It's about something that means something important to somebody. And that's significant to me. So yeah, when I say loud screaming rock, I don't know how to tell you that. You know, remember James Brown? Do you remember Ray Charles? You remember all those? I mean, those are also blues. Yeah, they're kind of bluesy rock. So blues, rock and jazz. I like jazz. I like jazz. music, contemporary jazz, but mostly that that has the feeling in it. Like if you pull up Miles Davis and get his album, sketches of Spain, that's a beautiful work. My older son is Miles for Miles Davis. Yeah, that's a beautiful piece. That album is wonderful. That's one of my favorite albums. And it's not because Miles is very good about hitting every note just right. He doesn't. He mangles
Starting point is 01:24:44 a lot of them, but it's got a lot of feeling in it. And you can just disappear. into that feeling very easily. So that's the kind of music that I like. You remember the song Bad to the Bone? Remember that? I had a lady who was living with us at the time taking care of children and cooking meals and cleaning house and stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:10 And she came up to me one day and said, if you heard that song? And I hadn't because I was real busy then. And I didn't. If I listened to music in the car, it was because I had a CD player in the trunk of the car. I listened to that. But anyway, I said, no, I never heard it.
Starting point is 01:25:26 And she says, well, somehow it reminds me of you. You and that music, you and that music just go together. So I said, I have to hear that. So she found it and she played it for me. And I thought, what does that have to do with me? What does that have to do with me? But then I played it for Eileen, who was maybe back here someplace. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:49 And she said, that's you. So, but it's me, not in a way that I'm bad to the bone, but just, you know, I'm a physicist. And I seem to be very intellectual, that I'm very, maybe, I wouldn't say conservative. That's the wrong word these days. But like most intellectuals are. Do you cry? Yes, I do. More and more than I ever used to.
Starting point is 01:26:17 When I was younger, never. Never a tear would leave my eyes, but now I cry at everything. It's a sign of maturity. Yeah, I cry at everything now. But in any case, I tend to be, I have a good sense of humor. I love to joke. Your book is very funny. You're writing.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Every couple of pages or something chapters, it has some humor in it. Very playful. I am that way. I tend to joke around a lot, and I tend to be a little wild and crazy. That's, I don't find that hard to believe. Good, but I do. In this situation, I'm very buttoned down in business and intellectual and we have to say things. But in a private environment, I don't get up on tables and put lambshades on my head.
Starting point is 01:27:06 I'm not that kind of guy, but I will, almost everything comes out of my mouth is humor. I don't, I'm not very serious about anything. Well, you are the favorite rabbi I've ever had on this podcast. So thank you so much. I do recommend by Big Toe. It is dense. It's worth working through. And obviously, it's a trilogy as well.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Please tell everyone where they can find your binaural beats and everything else about you. Well, go to my website, which is www. My-Big-Tow and com, right? Dot. And you will find everything there if you want to actually get what the about you'll find most of that there. You'll find packages to buy like binaral beats, and there'll be lots of them, but they're not expensive. So buy a bunch of them and compare them. Because a binaural beat that works great for you today may be one that doesn't work for you tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:28:02 It depends. What you bring to the table is one of the very big variables. It's not just that everybody's the same and these binaural beats will do everything for everybody. It's very personal. And you're different. You're different. You're different. hour to hour, much less day to day. So play around with them. I also have some, a thing there called exploring consciousness and everything paranormal where I teach you how to do everything paranormal. All the things we've talked about. I teach you about remote viewing, mind-to-mind communications, talking to your dead uncle Fred, all the things that you might want to do, healing, all that. And I explain them how they work, why they work.
Starting point is 01:28:47 how you can learn to do them, what not to do, what to do. And again, that's not really expensive. It's a five-week training course that's intensive. If you take it over five weeks, it'll be five intensive days, but you can take it over five months or five years if you want. You just learn faster if it's intensive than if it isn't. But you can do it. So if you're interested in paranormal, that will explain to you what the paranormal is and how it works.
Starting point is 01:29:13 I have a couple of other products there. Times Park is one. if you have a hard time meditating, this will give you, it'll give you something to put in your mind that's productive that leads you to be able to do the paranormal things at the end of it. So that's another thing. So that's where you can get stuff. I've got a YouTube and my YouTube has probably 2,000 videos, way too many videos for you to figure out which ones to watch. So I also, at the website, I have a search tool that will search those thousands of hours of video by subject. I also have at the website a tool that is called AI Guy.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Now, you haven't gotten to AI Guy yet in the books. You've just looked at Book 1, which is no more than an introduction. The serious stuff is in Book 2 and Book 3. But in any case, AI Guy is a character in my book 2. and this AI guy has my voice. It has been trained on all those thousands of videos. It has been trained on the books and everything I've ever said. So it is about as close to me as you can get.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Amazing, but not as fun. But not as fun. It doesn't make jokes like I do. Anyhow, it will be, it will answer your questions very much like I did. We've tested it many times. You know, they have a whole bunch of questions. answer him and then they put him into AI guy to answer him and I'd say you know 98 99% gets them right because it's not just any AI but this one's been trained all my stuff specifically I could do a
Starting point is 01:30:53 spin-off show with his AI that's right you can just talk to it all day you could but it's good so that's another thing we have but in general it's a community you know I'm I don't have millions of people following me but I have 100,000 or so and we have a community that has its own newsletters and things that go out. We have meetings. This May, I'm going to Spain for four or five days doing events. I've been around the world a time or two. I've been to Germany five or six times and everywhere they speak English because otherwise I have to do it with an interpreter. So I speak to places that there's English. Actually, I had a German interpreter when I was there. One of my biggest audiences is in Germany, the people
Starting point is 01:31:39 who are very rational. My books, I intended them, I was written by a physicist, I intended them to be an on-ramp for left-brainers. People who live by logical process don't have an on-ramp to the spiritual or to the non-physical or any of that. So my books are made to be logical, and they drive right-brainers crazy because they're too logical, too much process. They are not an easy read. And you have to read them very slowly. Well, I really, I really enjoyed the first, so I'll tackle the others as well. Yeah, I think you'll like them even better. There's more and better information as you go. But anyhow, this has been fun. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for inviting me. It's been a pleasure. I thought maybe we'd talk more about mental health, but that's all right. We had too many other things
Starting point is 01:32:29 to talk to you about. So maybe we'd do it again. Oh, we would love that. You know, people ask me about, Well, a lot of those people get locked up. Is that because they're having real connections to the larger conscious system and just nobody believes them? And yeah, that's a problem. If you have that connection, you need to keep it to yourself. It's also about can you integrate it or does it sort of take you over, right? If you're channeling an enormous amount of information and you don't know what to do with it. Yeah, well, then you have to kind of back up again.
Starting point is 01:33:01 You don't want to overwhelm your own free will to deal with it. Yeah. So you have to back it off and say, okay, what does this mean? If you just open yourself up to it and now you're a channel and you're just blathering things that nobody can understand, that's not going to be helpful to you or really to other people. So you do need to make sure your free will is in control of what's going on. And if it's more than you can handle, then make it stop. It will obey your free will.
Starting point is 01:33:31 You can make it stop. You know, like those people that are too empathetic. Can't go into a Walmart because it drives and that's all the vibes. Yeah. Yeah. And you can turn that off. You can turn it off selectively. Not only turn it all off, but you can say,
Starting point is 01:33:46 I only want to be able to hear those people who have a birthday this week. And then the crowd will disappear and you'll only hear from the few people who have birthdays this week. You can open and close those portals with your intent. And most people don't know that. but you can. It just takes a little practice of developing your intuitive side. It has a lot of things that it can do. It's your mind.
Starting point is 01:34:13 It's the core function of your mind as this intuitive spot. The intellect is kind of something grafted onto the side so you can deal with the world. But dealing with being a human being with other people mostly comes out of your intuitive side. And we don't develop it at all. We just let it sit there in language. We were smarter intuitively when we were three,
Starting point is 01:34:32 years old than we are now as adults mostly. But yes, you can turn things on, turn things off. There's more to talk about for sure. Thank you so much. I don't even know what to say about what just happened. You would have to say everything about the entire universe and its construction and how to live your life. I hope people will go and check out the resources that Tom has on his website. The books are very dense. I'm not going to lie. But I just feel like we got him to share so much of his wisdom. We're so grateful for people listening to this episode. And if you missed the first one, go back and listen to it. Also, after the episode, I got maybe one of the best hugs in my life. Yeah, he definitely, there was a deep connection between us and Tom. And yeah, he's a hugger. Who knew?
Starting point is 01:35:24 You know, if you're watching the video, I'm wondering if people can pick up his presence. There was an intensity about him. He's very intense. You can feel people who have changed their frequency. You know, he's been meditating for how many years, decades, and there is a level of presence. He sat for over three hours without a restroom break without saying an um or an awe like he barely paused.
Starting point is 01:35:55 There was like two moments in three hours where he didn't have just a stream of consciousness that he was able to share with us. And I'm really kind of amazed. It was really very, very powerful episode. He did remind me of some of the more mystical guests we've had. He reminded me of Michael Singer. That's what I was going to say. Very heavy Michael Singer vibes, which, you know, not what you'd expect from a physicist.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Michael's an economist. And I remember when we spoke to him, you could feel his presence through Zoom. Yeah. Because he wasn't in person. And like, that's what I imagine. It would be like, I mean, look, I, yeah, it's, uh, I don't even know what else to say. From our breakdown to the one we hope you never have.
Starting point is 01:36:35 We will see you next time. It's My and Beallix Breakdown. She's going to break it down for you. She's got a neuroscience PhD or two. One fiction. And now she's going to break down. It's a breakdown. She's going to break it down.

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