Mayim Bialik's Breakdown - Re-Air: Famous Comedian REVEALS Techniques for Manifesting Your Dreams, with Ron Funches

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

As we kick off the New Year, with many of us setting fresh intentions and trying to build momentum and healthy habits to take us through 2026, we’re revisiting an episode from 2023 with one of our f...avorite comedians, Ron Funches (stand-up comedian, New Girl, Loot)! Ron joins us in the studio to discuss the complicated dynamics of divorce, coparenting, body image stressors, raising an autistic son, and the spiritual component of jiu jitsu. He explains what it’s like to have kids a generation apart and the different parenting resources he has at his disposal now that he didn’t have the first time around. Ron opens up about what his son’s autism has taught him, his self-focus after being a “serial monogamist” for so long, his mom’s career as a social worker, and the eye-opening advice he learned from Mayim years ago. Mayim opens up about the shame of divorce and Ron explains how vision boards work. Follow us on Substack for Exclusive Bonus Content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bialikbreakdown.substack.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BialikBreakdown.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube.com/mayimbialik⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Hi, I'm I am Biali. And I'm Jonathan Cohen. And welcome to our breakdown. As we kick off the new year, many of us are setting fresh intentions and trying to build momentum and really thinking about what are healthy habits that can take us through 2026. For that expressed reason, we're going to revisit an episode from 2023 with one of our favorite comedians, Ron Funcius. You've probably seen Ron or heard his very distinctive voice in anything from, new girl to loot to the trolls franchise. Ron was actually the first person on our podcast to talk about the power of vision boards. And Myam actually goes full on vision boarding in 2006. She launched a exclusive substack piece on it. And we want to include all of you on the power of vision boards.
Starting point is 00:00:56 So this is why we are re-recording this episode. Ron is famously has New Year's Eve parties that include vision boarding, helping people set up what their lives might look like in the new year, which sounds like a fantastic way to spend New Year's. We've been waiting for our invitation to one of these Vision Board New Year's parties at Ron's house for years, but maybe it'll come this year. Also in this episode is a very fun moment where I make Ron laugh hysterically with one of the best burns that he says has happened on this podcast. So check that out if you haven't heard it already. Wait, the burn is of me. That's correct. It's all in good fun.
Starting point is 00:01:36 What's also fun is joining us on Substack for exclusive content like Mime's Vision Board and the intersection of how science can actually back up something like a vision board and prove that it actually helps us create what we want. And now we hope you enjoy taking a look back at our episode with Ron Funches. Break it down. Thank you for having me, of course. Thank you for letting me in your home. I did your podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Like two years ago, I think? I think three years ago, I was talking about Call Me Cat at the time. And I think our podcast was new. So I appreciated you allowing me to come on and talk about our podcast. And we're excited to have you here. I have many questions about many things. Okay. Jonathan, is there somewhere you would like to start?
Starting point is 00:02:28 I just want to know what's up, man. How are you doing? Thank you. Good combo. She comes with a list. I come with like... This is a good cop. This is a good interrogation.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm doing well. I'm starting a new like training program where I'm eating some fun stuff and cooking more for myself. So that's made me feel good. I made a nice grilled salmon before I got here. And so that move, I was like, this is a fun afternoon. to sit down on the patio and just eat it after I made it and just made me feel like a real man. And then just been hanging out with my sons. I've been doing a little bit of touring, but I've been trying to cut back a bit.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I mean, in general, they wouldn't ask what. You said how. In general, sleepy, happy, somewhat stressed out, and just trying to make it through the strike and get back to work hopefully soon. Absolutely. Firstly, cooking salmon always increases the value of the day, you know, makes you feel good like you accomplish something. So I understand that.
Starting point is 00:03:44 But what's stressing you out? Oh, okay. This is, I thought about this before it got here. So it's fun. He said he didn't have a list. Yeah. Oh, I mean, it's how you play the game. No true good cop.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He said that. I thought about this recently, and so it made me both, like, happy and part of it because it was like, oh, my life's really changed. The number one thing stressing me out right now is in the middle of a divorce, and I love that to just wrap up so I know what my life is going to be like. And just so I can feel like I'm not stuck in an old pattern and that I'm moving forward, that would make me feel so much better. The second thing that is stressing me out in my life right now is that. that the bidet in my toilet stops functioning properly. And so it doesn't do the self-cleaning
Starting point is 00:04:39 function, nor does it pulsate against my butt currently. And I'm like, that's what I bought it for. So it's really stressing me out and my assistant is on a vacation. So I have to be one to take care of it. So it's got to wait until she gets back. And so it's stressing me out of bed
Starting point is 00:05:01 because I was like, this is why I bought this. And then, but I was like, oh, what a beautiful thing. That that is my second biggest stressor. My third is just constantly, like just trying to take care of my diet. And my health, make sure, because I got two sons, 20 years apart. Wow. You know, used to be 360 and then down a lot and then up a little. And whenever I go up a little, it stresses me out because I feel like I'm going to go back to where I was.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So it's like sandwich of like real stressors, but in the middle, just like, okay, beautiful life. Well, it is annoying when things don't do what they're supposed to do. Especially a bidet. So I just want to acknowledge that. Thank you. I appreciate that. It could be a wife. It could be a bidet.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Nobody's doing what they're supposed to do in Ron's life. Yeah, I could do. Well, there's many dirty jokes I could make currently. But I will just not pick the low-hanging fruit. But let you think of it. Well, the first thing I was thinking when you mentioned your first stressor, And you're in good company. We're both divorced people.
Starting point is 00:06:04 So you're in safe company. A lot of people before everyone was getting divorced when they heard that I was divorced. I was one of the first people that I knew, you know, in my circle that was divorced. I was a trendsetter. I was a trailblazer in ways. First the flower hat, then the divorce.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah. And, you know, I, I, I, everybody having fun? I can not let a good. That's a solid burn. What I was going to say is I come from a family where like you don't get divorced. You just like suffer in silence until someone dies. Like that's the thing. That's how you know it's true love.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That's how you know it's true love. But for me, I felt like a lot of shame. I felt a lot of shame about it. And I didn't know other people getting divorced. And then little did I know, you know, the 2000s were going to hit hard and heavy. And then a lot of people started. getting divorced. I felt less alone. Unconsciously coupling.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Some were unconsciously coupling. But I just, I guess you also, you got married during COVID. Adorable pictures, I have to say. Thank you. It's not a sore spot to bring up a mass wedding. You really rocked it out. Thank you. And you have a tiny one.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Like he's one, is that right? He's 16 months. He's 16 months. Oh my gosh. That's awesome. Do you talk about sort of the evolution of where you're at with it? You don't have to. You talk about just in life?
Starting point is 00:07:35 Like the divorce. No, like with, yeah, like what it's like doing that with a little one, especially. Like mine were four and seven and it seemed like it's an added complexity. Yeah. So I'm curious what that's like parenting this time around while also dealing, you know, with a larger stressor. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's a mix of things as, you know, I've always been. When my mom asked me about it, and I tried to be honest, and I was like, she was like, well, would you have had a kid knowing that you would have gotten divorced so quickly?
Starting point is 00:08:06 And I was like, it's hard to say. Like, you know, I certainly wouldn't have been like, you know, let's have this kid and then just not be together. Right. This seems wild. And being a single, I mean, I was a single parent for many years already. I had sole custody of my oldest son for many years. And so I kind of thought that this was going to be kind of the inverse of that, where I was going to have this traditional family and come home from work and just shoot shows
Starting point is 00:08:36 or do whatever I do go on the road and come home and have this family dynamic. And then when I realized that it didn't, that the, you know, ideal of it and the premise of it was better than the execution, it was a hard decision to make. But it was also more having them. my son was like a big trigger for it to be kind of like, well, how do I want to raise him to be? What type of man do I want him to be? Would I want him to stay in something that's not working for him? Would I want him to compromise what he feels and truly believes in himself or to not follow his instincts?
Starting point is 00:09:16 And I want and I say, no, I always want to instill in my sons to believe in themselves and to follow. what they believe in, even if it's a hard decision, even if other people tell you it's the wrong decision to believe in yourself. And I, you know, in order to say that, you got to kind of live that, you know? So that was a pusher into that. And now I'm just kind of look at the blessings or whatever I have, like, you know, having sole custody of my oldest son has been a lot of fully soul and to have someone that I can co-parent with, that's someone that does take great care, of my son and our son and does take love and just, you know, we don't work together, but they seem to work very well together.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So I'm happy for that. What's it like having kids a generation apart, essentially? Oh, it's awesome. What is your older son? Like, what's his take on being a brother at an age when some people have kids? Yeah, well, I mean, I had my first son. when I was 20. So to now have my other son
Starting point is 00:10:26 and then to see my oldest 20 being like, wow, you have such a baby face. No one should give you a child at all. I left him in a hotel room alone the other day and I said, don't open the door for anyone. And he turned to his Spider-Man doll
Starting point is 00:10:45 and said, don't open the door, Spider-Man. I'm like, you're, that's the age of Iowa. So now it's nice to have more resources and to be able to, you know, I just try to make sure I utilize them and not try to feel shame about it, having a nanny or whatever. And just it still feel older, so I feel tired. I definitely had much more energy when I was 20 and doing it. But now, you know, I think, and also my oldest son is, you know, an autism spectrum. And I have, you know, my too early to tell for sure. I'm sure he'll have his own character sheet to live by.
Starting point is 00:11:26 But my youngest so far seems to be pretty neurotypical. And so that's a real difference for me. To have a kid that's very social and likes to talk to other people. And I mean, I remember when I was like realized I was like, oh, no, we're going to have sleepovers. I can tell already. We're going to have a bunch of sleepovers. And I never had to deal with that with my oldest son. So that's going to be something.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And, oh, my God, other people, parents, ugh. You were spared. I was truly spared because my oldest son was such a hermit. I mean, other kids liked him, but he would shut the door and run from them. He truly prefer the company of adults, usually. And so he didn't like, you know, he'd get overstimulated. He didn't like loud noise and things like that. So he just was a, like, we grew up together.
Starting point is 00:12:21 He was, you know, to this day, I'm just like, oh, my God, you're like the chillest roommate I could ever have, like, cleans the dishes, takes care of everything. He goes every meal that I feed, Teddy, he goes behind and cleans his high chair. He's just a great big brother, but he's also happy when he leaves. Miami-Bi Alex's breakdown is supported by Superpower. We all know the feeling of leaving a doctor's office and kind of feeling like we didn't get anything out of the experience that was useful. Maybe they're like, you're fine, drink more water. There's no real data. There's no game plan.
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Starting point is 00:14:17 use the code break at checkout for $20 off your membership. And after you sign up, they'll ask how you heard about them. Make sure to mention my ambiolic breakdown to help support the show. How is your patience different with going the second time around? I know for me when my son, who is now 15, was born, hearing him cry. Like, I hadn't been around a lot of babies. Hearing him cry was like maddening. I was like, I got to do something.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And there's, you know, sometimes nothing to be done. They just need to cry a little bit. But was it different for you the second time? Yeah. I mean, and with autism especially, you have to learn a lot of patience in like repeating things, repeating commands, repeating whatever, you know, soothing, whatever you have to do. There's a lot of patience and repetition. So I've been well trained in that now.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And then also having the second son, it's truly a second thing where I'm like, oh, you're fine. And my ex, she would like squish his little blueberries, you know, every month. I was like, oh, you're clearly the first time you had a kid. I'm like, if the blueberry takes him out, he's not meant to be here. He's weak. Because gums can't handle a blueberry. It's interesting because I, you know, you hear people talk about when they have their second, you know, like, oh, the
Starting point is 00:15:50 The first child gets like the photo album and, you know, the second one is just like hopefully in the background of some picture somewhere. And if you have a third, like there is no photo album. But I hadn't thought about what it would be like to have them, you know, 20 years apart. But it's true. You already have kind of a parenting toolbox of like, even though it was 20 years ago. Yeah. And I mean, that is a big difference. You know, things change so much in 20 years. And there seem to be wildly different type of boys. My oldest is kind of felt like always like a firecracker. And my youngest feels like a wave where he's like he's chill, but he's always on the move. He never stops moving. And so that's very tiring. And just again, the resource difference is kind of the opposite where my youngest, you know, there were times where like I would be so embarrassed and a shame because we only had like one pair of shoes for him and a thing. and now my youngest, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:51 I was like three pairs of Jordans. So it's like such a, he dresses like a little rich man. The one picture that I was looking at, there's a really sweet picture of your older son holding your younger one, which is also just, it's ridiculously cute. But I did notice the Jordans on the baby.
Starting point is 00:17:12 It's pretty cute. Can you talk a little bit about sort of like the differences, as you said, in sort of resources. and what your life was like when you became a parent the first time and then what it's like now. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, it was horrible. It was not a good idea.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I was 20 and I had no education whatsoever. I went to community college for three weeks. I hadn't started comedy yet. I worked at a grocery outlet, not even a regular grocery store. Well, girls in the day were like, you get the spoiled stuff. That's what I dealt with. And then so it was a very stressful time. It was stressful all the time every day.
Starting point is 00:18:02 What's the day where you were in? I lived in Salem, Oregon. So it was just, and I was lucky as far as his autism diagnosis because especially at that time, Oregon was on the forefront of dealing with different therapies and so and I ended up living right across the street from an ABA therapy place so it was I mean it you know some things are just Kismet in that way and but it was certainly you know food stamps and WIC and things of that nature so now to be able to I mean those are things even when the separation of divorce I'm still very proud of myself to be able to like oh I'm taking care of two households and I'm
Starting point is 00:18:44 making sure that everyone is thriving and well taken care of it, not just monetarily, but with time and with, you know, just getting down on the floor with him and playing with him. Like, I love to do that type of stuff as well. I try to, you know, balance now that I know what my schedule is with him, I usually, the days he's with me, I don't really, I mean, I do a podcast like this, but that's about it. And other than that, I'm just with him all day and hanging out. Sometimes I might take a nap. and the nanny will take over for an hour or two.
Starting point is 00:19:16 But other than that, it's just us playing and hanging out. And it's nice. I couldn't give that to my first son. And it was in a positive way, especially, you know, once he was diagnosed, I was like, I need to make money. I need to figure out a career. He might need to live with me forever. And so it was very much like once I found comedy, I was just out doing it every night, trying to get away from open mics and find pay shows.
Starting point is 00:19:45 So in that regard, you know, my son stayed with me and a lot of Motel Sixes and Super 8s to this day. Sometimes I would be like, where do you want to go vacation? And I'll be like, let's go Oregon and stay in the Motel Six. And I was just like, if we ever do that again, I've made some terrible choices. I'm curious if, you know, your son, having your son, was like a motivation that you think you needed.
Starting point is 00:20:13 You know, do you think you would have found something if you hadn't had your son? Or were you like, I need to search right now and like kind of you needed that joke? Oh, yeah, certainly needed it. Yes, for sure. I wouldn't. That's what my son's very spoiled.
Starting point is 00:20:26 He gets whatever video games, whatever he wants. And a lot of people are like, and it's like, he truly, this is the definition of he was shooting with me in the gym. He was part, he was the reason I was doing things. But without him, I didn't have a lot of self-esteem for myself. and I didn't have a lot of motivation, and I had low standards. And so living in a crappy apartment, having no type of future, I was like, this is fine for me.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But as soon as I had my son, I was like, this isn't fine for him. And so that was a high key motivator for me to figure something out and to do it in a, like, consistent and stay focused. I think certainly coming home every night and knowing that he, you know, was the reason I was doing it. I mean, and it's still selfish part. I love doing comedy. It's not like a full altruistic thing. I love it. But he certainly was the gas that made it.
Starting point is 00:21:23 So I didn't just like go and do a show and then hang out and do karaoke in Portland. You know, I did a show and then did another show and then came, went home. You can love it, but it still requires an enormous amount of work. You have to overcome. that back. And so like if you don't have that motivation, you know, maybe you don't go as far as you do. Yeah, I think so. Certainly for me. Absolutely. And now it's just same thing with both my sons. They motivate me with my health, with my comedy, with everything to just kind of provide a fun life and to make sure that it's not a temporary situation that I'm able to, you know, take care of them for,
Starting point is 00:22:03 you know, for generations. of motivation. I was curious when you mentioned, you know, like eating differently and things like that. You know, I had my first kid at 29 and my second one, whatever, a couple years later. But when I see people who are like deep into their 40s and early 50s with toddlers, like I don't think I could do it. Like I think I don't, I don't think I would have the physical strength. I mean, there's the exorkeptory. I mean, there's the exorkeptory. And you're still a young man. But I wonder if that's also part of it is like you are 20 years later. Like now, you know, you're the age that you are. Like the body. That's a young dad in L.A.
Starting point is 00:22:51 He's exactly. No, but I'm thinking like that's, you're still like that child doesn't know. They're like, I want the dad who can run, play, do all those things. So that's also like its own kind of motivation. I mean, I started, I know we, we share a jiu jitsu connection. I started doing jujitsu. It was something that my kids were doing, but I'm so glad that I started
Starting point is 00:23:13 because, first of all, it gives me something that we kind of like do together, we track together. But also, like, it was something that motivated me to, like, stay active because their needs don't change just because I'm in my deep 40s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:28 No, yeah, that's certain. I mean, that was one of the reasons. It was more like a now or never thing with having another son. And it's very emotional. in ways and now I'm short-sighted in some ways because I was just missed having someone whose feet fit in my hands and their head was in my elbow and that lasted like two weeks. He had a very long way.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So it was not, I was just like, oh, wow, now I just got to deal with you for the rest of my life. And he's the best. I love him. I'm so glad I did it. But it certainly wasn't like, oh, I want to do this and I'm 45 or 50. I mean, I got a vasectomy after. So now, I mean, it was done. It's just two kids and I'm out.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Two and done. Two and done. But, you know, and the most selfishly and honestly, I always still worry about my oldest son. And I want to, you know, a lot of my ways of insulating his life has been through money. And then I realize, oh, at some point, I'm going to die. And hopefully he will still be alive. at that point.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And I really wanted someone who loved him enough to also still be around him who might want to check in on him. And so I, and I love to see that now. That's actually one of the biggest joys in my life is to see how much they love each other as brothers already. Like how excited Teddy is to watch him and to like see the things that he can do that he can't do, you know, and go like, oh, you know, you see it on his face.
Starting point is 00:25:04 It's like, oh, I can't do that. Yeah, but oh, maybe one day I'll be able to jump on a trampoline like you, you know. And it's so cool to see. And again, how much Malcolm takes care of him is just a nice bond that they have already that I'm hopefully going to cultivate for the rest of their lives because I'm going to need them to stick together. This is an odd question. So feel free to tell me that it's odd. Is there something in particular also about having, you know, your older son who's on the spectrum and has a very special. kind of tenderness. Is there something unique that you see in that brotherhood that you might not
Starting point is 00:25:43 see if your older one wasn't on the spectrum? Well, I just in general, I noticed the real shift in him and the fact that he went from, I mean, and he still does have like, you know, stuffed animals on his bed and things like that. But he certainly shifted into this like, oh, I'm 20. I'm the big brother. I look out for you. I tell you don't do that. I tell you to be careful when he was used to being the one who was told to be careful. And now he's just very kind and proactive. I mean, he's always been that way.
Starting point is 00:26:21 But, I mean, it's probably one of my biggest successes is how kind he is to everyone. And my mom came to a show in Chicago. I was doing a couple weeks ago. And she was talking with my aunt and she told me a story that I didn't even know about where she said whenever she comes to visit, my son, and oftentimes I'll be on the road. And so my son will let her in and ask her what she wants for lunch
Starting point is 00:26:48 and bring her like a postmate's menu and then he will order it for her and then bring it to her and then clean up the place after her. And I was like, that's such a, like, that's what a good man does for his grandmother. And I love that he does, that naturally. It's very sweet.
Starting point is 00:27:07 How did you get into Jiu-Jitsu? I know you're a, you're a wrestling fan. Yeah. Like your whole life? Yeah, since I was five. Wow. Yeah. You were raised on like classic WWF. Mm-hmm. WWF, WCW.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Who did you like? I mean, everyone at the time, Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Earthquake, Kobe Ware, two co-scorpio, hot stuff Eddie Gilbert. Did you go to stuff in person or you watched on TV?
Starting point is 00:27:34 Let's see how that was good. No, it was, what were you saying? I was just curious if you went to venues in person or if you were a, got it. Yeah, my uncle would take me to shows in Chicago. Chicago has always been a hotbed for pro wrestling and comedy. So I would go to Rosemont Horizon and see WWF house shows when I was younger and I got fell in love with it. How did you discover Jiu-Jitsu? Freddie Prince Jr.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I mean, I'd heard, heard about it before him, but he really brought it to my life. He did my podcast once, and then we just kind of, he also is a big wrestling fan and I think owns a wrestling league currently. And he talked about how much everyone else who had talked to about Jiu-Jitsu had always really stuck with the physical aspects of it and the defense aspects and the aggression. aspects and he was the first person who talked to me about the spiritual aspects of Jiu-Jitsu and how it made him feel the confidence that it gave him, the spirituality that it gave him the
Starting point is 00:28:43 just the guidance and just the how it helped his, he said that it felt that it helped his acting and so when he, you know, sometimes it's not even what someone says to you is how they say it and the love in their voice that you hear about something if someone tells you about a
Starting point is 00:29:02 dessert that, you know, a waiter, and you can actually hear like, oh, they've tried this dessert, and they really believe in it. And it was just the way he spoke about Jiu-Jitsu and his professor in general that I was just like, okay. And then once I was getting divorced, I was like, okay, there's going to, I've been divorced before. So I know some of the steps. I know there would be a lot of anger. And I was like, I should probably put that in a positive way. I know I would want to choke someone. I should probably get someone who will volunteer. And so we put those together. And so in January, I started going and been enjoying it ever since.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I love it. Go two, three days a week. Really? So we were going to ask you what your spiritual impact or how has Jiu-Zitsu impacted you spiritually? In a lot of ways. I mean, I guess the most simple ways is putting real self-confidence, the feeling that I can have a connection with my body and myself. and full focus.
Starting point is 00:30:03 That's what I really enjoy about it. I feel like every time I do it, it's like I get baptized because I'm so sweaty. I'm laying on the ground. I'm smiling. I really have to slow my brain down and focus, but also stay active physically. And I'm starting now to just now get some
Starting point is 00:30:22 of the very basic lessons of not thinking while I'm going, but just following my instincts. And a lot of it is also going against, your base instincts of like pulling away from someone or, you know, making a rash decision. And to be able to like kind of slow down and see beyond your like low level and primal reactions to like what is actual like is a higher decision making is very spiritual to me. And I enjoy it a lot. And just some of the lessons with my divorce.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And I mean, he was just teaching me in escape. If you, I tell this one, anyone asks, is he was teaching me this escape. And he was like, there's two options. He's like, when you turn away from me or the other one, you have to turn into me and you might get your face mushed. You might get some rug burn, but you should be able to get away. And it was just so profound to me of like that's a lot of choices in life is that sometimes the only option is to go through a uncomfortable situation where you get your face mushed and you get your cheeks burned. But you get out of it. and the only other option is to just submit and then you've lost.
Starting point is 00:31:31 So there's just, you know, there's been lots of lessons, but it's only been eight months. So I'm imagining I'm going to get some more. I mean, that's a pretty powerful analogy right there for most of life. You know, my jiu-jitsu experience was, you know, I was usually one of the only females. So it's very different because one of the things I really loved about jiu-jitsu is, and I think this is also a bit of a spiritual principle,
Starting point is 00:31:52 is learning to leverage what you have, even if it doesn't seem like it's the strongest in the room or the biggest or the, you know, you don't always feel the bravest sometimes just based on what you're kind of coming to the table with. But the notion of learning more about your body, learning about leverage, learning about positioning and often escaping is also really helpful. And I think of that as kind of a spiritual principle. I agree with you. And I said if I had a daughter, I would feel like I would, I mean, I wouldn't force them, but I would certainly try to introduce them to it. because just the base level of like a lot of it being thigh base, being hip escapes,
Starting point is 00:32:31 being how do you do if someone's on top of you and you don't want them to be? I think that's the lessons that should be instilled in, you know, most women that need them unfortunately. But I certainly, if I had a daughter, I think it was still a lot of self-confidence. I mean, I'm going to put my sons in, especially when I took my oldest. He tried once. He said he doesn't want to go back. but I'm going to put my youngest.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Hopefully he's going to like it and get into it. And let me just look at what you said. It was one of the first places that really told me to like, oh, use your weight, use your leverage. You, you know, smush me. Like, you know, that's going to be what you have. That's helpful for you. And because sometimes, you know, going on my health journey and stuff, a lot of times my weight has been always used as a way to put me down or to make me feel bad. was the first things he said to me.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It was like, make your weight my problem. And I was like, oh, my God, that's such a better way to look and better way to feel about it. Like, this is, I am who I am, and you'd have to deal with whatever I bring. I like that a lot. Use what you have to your advantage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:42 There's a lot of talk about jiu-zitsu amongst comedians, you know, probably because of Rogan. I think we should start a league and just fight each other. I mean you, Russell Peters can write. Yeah, everybody. You have to fight while also making them laugh. Yeah. But what do you think there is, what's the parallel between comedy and jujitsu, or is there one?
Starting point is 00:34:04 Well, I don't know if it is just comedy. Although I knew a lot of comedians that do it, I feel, and it might just be where we go, because it's an affluent class. But the amount of, like, successful people I see in jujitsu, the amount of people. The amount of people who no matter what their industry is, they really are good at it. They have success at it. And they're looking for mastery of it beyond just like money and beyond things. They're looking to really get into the details of their craft.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And I think a lot of that with the comedians who do it with the actors, whatever is a lot of these people who really love problem solving, really love figuring something out, really love putting forth for effort and sweating and failing because that's how we got to where we are. That's how I got to where I am. It was like failing so many times, so many bombed auditions, so many bad sets.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And having something where I start at the bottom of and have this white belt, and I know I'm probably having it for years, and I'm just going to go and get better. And I feel my progress. I see my progress. I think in turn it has helped my comedy where I'm able to look at the details
Starting point is 00:35:16 a little bit more. I'm more confident. confident in my abilities. I'm more confident just in general of just like, okay, if you hate this joke, what are you going to do? You probably don't know jujitsu. Come on over. Come on over.
Starting point is 00:35:33 If you do know jujitsu, don't because I've just started. I think also jiu-jitsu is a very creative kind of, you know, fighting form. Very improv. Yeah, like with taekwondo or with, you know, some of the other, you know, Eastern martial arts. There's more fixed format. There's forms and there's a lot of formality and, you know, we bow and there's like a way
Starting point is 00:35:59 that you bow. Like someone got called out by our instructor because their eyes were focused in the wrong place while bowing. Like it's that, you know, specific. And what I remember, you know, from jiu-jitsu is kind of like, whatever works is also the rule, which is also true in comedy. I mean, it's true as an artist. Jiu-jitsu really is about like read the room, you know, read the body in front of you,
Starting point is 00:36:25 every time it's going to be different. Something that works with one person on any given day may not work with someone who you think is going to have the same, you know, style or whatever. So I think when I think of jiu-jitsu, like there's so much creativity to it. And that makes sense to me too. And I think the lack of structure, I would imagine, you know, really appeals to people who are used to being kind of creative like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And just like I love it when you, I mean, the creation, when you think of something and you go, okay, I'm going to try to do this. And then it works. It's so exciting. And when you're able to not just think of it, but able to physically execute it at the speed that I need so that my professor doesn't just turn me around and flip me over, it makes me. Especially when I know, you know, because there's certain times when I know he's like, all right, well, you've gotten me here. I'll let you get it. But it's times where I'm like, okay, he doesn't want me to catch me.
Starting point is 00:37:18 him yet. And when I do, it makes me so happy. I'm curious if you can talk a little bit about what this strike period has been like for you. You know, everybody depending on our version of employment or, you know, art form has been impacted differently. And, you know, for a lot of people who write, you can still write during the strike. It's just there's not a lot we can do with it. So I'm kind of curious, you know, you also, you know, have this baby. And so that's also probably been a period of, you know, getting to know him at this age in a different way. But yeah, I kind of wonder if you could talk a little bit about that. Yeah. I mean, I'm probably in a very rare situation and where I was like stressed out about it. But I also was like, oh, this is actually great timing for me.
Starting point is 00:38:06 because I, you know, got separated last winter about October and had to go start working on the show that I work on. I guess I can say them now. Lou on Apple TV. I couldn't say that before. That's fun to say again. Check it out. And so that started back up in January. And so right before it started up, I went to Amsterdam and Paris.
Starting point is 00:38:36 for like a little trip to just kind of clear my head and hang out with friends and smoke a lot of weed. And then and go to the Louvre on mushrooms, which I highly recommend. A wonderful experience. But certainly nowhere near healed at that point but had to go to work. And I thought it would be escape and would be like, okay, I can't focus on anything else. But what I found was that, oh, I have all the emotion from this mixed with the emotion of working 14-hour days on a set. And so I, and I think I handle it very well.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I don't think I yelled at a single person or no one would have thought I was a bad person to work with. But I certainly felt it every day. I would leave and I would just be drained and I would be completely worn out and tired and just sad. And so to kind of suddenly have this break to be like, okay, well, now you can, I time to go to jujitsu more. You have time to see your therapist more.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You have time to go back. I mean, a lot of my life this year has been returning to the roots of things that made me happy and got to me where I am. So to just have to go back on tour and do stand up and see some of the people who knew me when I started. Like, a show's in Portland. And to have people who knew me from like one year in, two years in and come and see my show and have them be like,
Starting point is 00:40:06 this is like the most authentic version of you that I've ever seen this is and that's what I've been really working on. So it's been a nice in that regard. I've mostly just been filling for other people for the people who I worked with on Lute, the PAs and everyone who, the makeup people, the hair people who, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:28 truly, because you know, we never go on those sets you hear about like, I got this coming up and then this and then this because that's what they need in order to make ends meet. They have to have three or four things lined up. And so just being stressed out about that for them and also realizing, it's helped me realize a few things
Starting point is 00:40:47 where I'm like, oh, I don't think I want a tour as heavily as I've used to. You know, I had my new son. I've really noticed, you know, now I'm 40, how bad it is for my health, how hard it is for me to maintain my diet and my exercise and how those things are kind of more important to me now than like doing 20 sets all over the country.
Starting point is 00:41:09 You know, I'd rather, I can do shows in L.A. I can do show. I mean, I'm always going to want to perform. And that's it again. Like, just getting back to the basics of like, oh, I don't necessarily need to sell out a bunch of theaters. I just love doing comedy. So if I can do that while also hosting some show
Starting point is 00:41:28 that keeps me home near my son, that would make me very happy because I want to do a lot of, other things like I said that I couldn't do my first son I want to if he gets in a sport I want to be a coach I want to be the I eat I want to go on the museum trips and and hate them you know I want to do it because hey it'll give me a bunch of material that'd be great and it'll be um a way because I especially having the two kids like I'm really aware now of how quickly it goes and how like one day you have this baby and the next day you're watching them put on a graduation
Starting point is 00:42:04 cap and I want to be as in the moment with my new son as I can be because he seems to be a special little boy from already. He just seems like a sweet guy. And so I want to continue to mold that for him. I have a question about, you kind of mentioned a bit of the momentum that happens, I think especially in comedy, where, you know, once you have some level of success and you sort of like book stuff, there's this like momentum of, okay, now we book more and we book more. And there's a two. And there's a thing. And it's like more, more, more. And it's something we were talking with Fluffy about that in particular about, you know, there's a certain kind of like emotional burnout, I think, in particular for comedians. Because it's such a, it's such a raw and vulnerable. Like you're up there kind of sharing so much of yourself. But I think about it, not just for people in our industry, because obviously I experience it as an actor. There's like moments. It's like, oh, well, you did this show. And so now you're going to do this.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And now you're going to do this. And now we're going to book you for this. So I wonder if you can speak a little bit about sort of what that's like to take control of it a little bit and say, I'm not just going to keep going on that momentum. But like, what do I actually want? What makes me happy? Yeah. I mean, I think it comes a part of the whole trying to have mastery over my craft. It's just not only on stage, but also realizing.
Starting point is 00:43:34 what I wanted from comedy, which at every time, I just wanted to be able to pay my bills, take care of my family, and have a good life. And in order to do that, I have to have a nice work-life balance. I have to go on vacations. I got to have fun. I got to go to concerts. I got to see live performance because it refills my cup. It inspires me when I go see other people perform and see them happy and inner element. I saw Maya Rudolph, who I work with, every freaking day on a show, and I see how talented she is, but I saw her do her Prince cover band, Princess, and it was like a whole other thing.
Starting point is 00:44:13 And I was just like, oh, my God, this is like, I can see how happy you are. I can see how in your element, how much she controlled that room, how sexy she was. And it was all these things where I just like, that is so beautiful to like, you do this because you want to,
Starting point is 00:44:32 because this is what makes you happy. And then in turn, it is filled an entire room and it's sold out. And so I am not there yet, but that's the path that I want to be on. That's where I want to head towards. And a lot of, you know, there's a time where you were so used to being told no that when people start saying, yes, you don't know when to turn them away. You don't know when to turn, you know, when someone offers, if it was an offer, I'm like, sure, we'll do it. And then it led to me having some bad times and some bad experiences. I'm a big believer in mantras and different things.
Starting point is 00:45:09 And there was this one time I just made a mantra where I was just like, you know what I really want is less work, more money. And that's easy to say and fun to say. But it's terrifying in reality sometimes to turn down something and just go, I feel like something better is going to happen. but it has for me. It served me well. And the little bit is scary, but whenever I do it, it turns, if I don't feel it,
Starting point is 00:45:39 if I don't feel like it's going to be fun for me, and I've had some great mentors, I've had great people around me, and my acting coach from day once, it was just like five or six reasons why you take a job. Money, do you need that money? If you need it, take that job. Is it going to be a good experience for you? Is it going to be an experience where it's going to bring you around people? Maybe it's not going to give you the money.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Maybe it's not going to be that fun. But is it going to bring you around great people? Is it going to bring you around the people that you want to be around? You know, and if those things are true, then take the job. But if they're not true, don't take the job. And that was difficult for me sometimes. And I've seen so many of my friends who are more successful than me. And like they never take a vacation.
Starting point is 00:46:25 They never seem that. happy. They seem very frustrated. And I was just like, I don't ever want, like, when do you win? You know, when do you realize that you have a beautiful life and you have fun? And so I'd rather, you know, make a little less money and go to Japan for a couple weeks or just do what I need to to to have a fun and beautiful life because that's what I'm here for. I'm not here to, you know, produce content for other people. I'm here to have a fun life. I'm here to have a fun life. It almost seems like there's like two phases to self-esteem in that, you know, especially for those of us who live off of other people's applause or approval or like that's how we know we're successful, right? It's when someone hires you for the thing that you do that makes them happy or rich or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:47:17 It almost seems like that's the first hit that your self-esteem gets like, oh, I have something of value to you or you will exploit me so that you can get wealthy. the process, I will be more well known or I'll make money. So that's like the first phase of this like self-esteem shift. But then it seems like the second and more kind of mature aspect that you're talking about is then being able to say, I don't just live for you. That self-esteem means like I have esteem for myself in that there's a place where I now get to say, is this making me happy? Or is it making me happy in this way still? Yeah. I mean, the pandemic was certainly, I think the thing that shifted me from that because it stripped away
Starting point is 00:48:03 everything I had to find myself for previously where I was just like, I'm a comedian. I'm a comedian, this is what I do. I'm before, I'm a dad, but I'm a comedian, Ron Funches. And then when I couldn't do stand up for like a year, it really, you know, it was devastating. But out of that devastation came this thing of like, oh, what really am I?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Like, who am I for real? And I'm like, oh, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, great dad. I'm a great son. I'm a good friend. I'm like all these other things. And that to me started to really feel solid as opposed to judging myself based off of my last set or if I someone wants to give me a special or if, you know, because it's never, because it's always a shifting goalpost. The things that I wanted so much when I first started, you get them. And then it's still it's just like, okay, well, I'm on a show, but why don't I have my own show?
Starting point is 00:49:00 You know? And it's just like, these things are ridiculous when you say them out loud. But they really affect you mentally. And I mean, one of the greatest things I had was sometime, I think, I don't know where we were, but we were in the same building somewhere together. I don't even knew if we knew each other at the time, but I heard you, like, you were pitching something
Starting point is 00:49:20 or you were working on something, and it was just after Big Bang had ended, and you were talking about, how frustrating it was because whoever you were talking to wasn't receptive. And I really opened my eyes at that time. I was like, oh, she was on Blossom. And then she just comes off of this. And she's still, they still won't fucking just bet on her.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And I was just like, oh, okay, it's not personal. It happens to everyone. You know, and I still, I forget that sometimes. But it has been a helpful reminder. I wonder how much that actually also frees you up to do the comedy that you want to do if you're not like, oh, I just need that next special. And I won't name names, but there's been in the last, you know, six months some comedians that have released comedy specials and I listen to them or watch them.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And I'm like, this feels like you just needed another hour. And it sounds almost like a parody of themselves versus like really being able to say something new or, you know, they didn't feel like they were in their own skin. Yeah, I understand that, and I agree with that. I will just to stand-up comedian me give some excuses and just be like, you know, not everyone is an actor, not everyone wants to be an actor. And so sometimes these specials are the best way that they can make money in order to continue to tour. And so it's not necessarily about them being ready or feeling like they make an hour.
Starting point is 00:50:53 sometimes they're contractually obligated to deliver a special every so often. For me, luckily, no one's bringing down my door for that all the time. So I get to do what I prefer, which is to like kind of create and let my life change. And most of my comedy is personal. So the more I live, the more I go through things, the deeper I'm able to make the connections in my stand-up. and, you know, and I'm lucky. I'm lucky I didn't put out a special. If I put out a special a year ago, it would have been how much I love my wife.
Starting point is 00:51:30 The hour. So I've had to restart a couple of times with material and adjust and change. And I just, again, I always try to go back to the childhood version of me and what I loved and what I enjoyed. And I never cared of like my favorite artist put out. I liked wanting something to come out waiting, be like, oh, when are they going to do it? My favorite artist of all time is Outcast. And I love that every album that they put out, so sonically different, such a change, such an evolution in their lives that you can tell.
Starting point is 00:52:08 You knew where they were in their lives with each album from their debut, where there's these young, hungry people talking about looking up at ceiling fans. and you can see the pencil marks and the things that they're writing in the dungeon and to them to the hey-ya of like, my life is a Super Bowl pop festival, you know? And to have so much evolution and change, it was like they didn't operate off of a yearly schedule
Starting point is 00:52:33 or two-year schedule. It was about when the new album was better than the last one. And that's kind of how I judge my, the way I create an hour. It's like, when do I feel this is better than the last thing that I put? put out. And currently I'm getting real close. So I'm hoping I'm going to taste something soon. That's awesome. That's awesome. I want to, I want to, before we let you go, I want to visit a different aspect of Ron when he was little. Your mom was a social worker. And my parents were public
Starting point is 00:53:06 school teachers, which sometimes felt like they were therapists and parents to, you know, all the kids that, you know, that they spent most of their day with, you know. I had parents who had to deal with other people's children, you know, all day and then come home and deal with us. And I'm curious, did you understand what your mom did? You don't sound like you have any issues with that. Just a few. No, but I'm curious if you knew what your mom did. I mean, you know, social workers are often a bridge, you know, in so many situations when there's not, you know, mental health access of a certain type.
Starting point is 00:53:44 So, you know, to me, when I meet people who know social workers or who are social workers, it's such a precious, precious, in many cases, thankless, you know, kind of task. And I wonder, where did your mom work? Like, where was she a social worker? And what do you remember of that? She were for a Salvation Army for many years. And what I remember mostly, and I didn't even know at the time, but now it's just kind of interesting to, like, have someone who spent all their days helping other people, trying to help them,
Starting point is 00:54:14 connect resources, try to get them out of bad situations, help their children, you know, have better food and better things. And while we were literally probably one rung above that, like my, you know, my mom was a single mom. She was the only one bringing money in. My dad wasn't necessarily supporting the family at that time. And so we were not doing well. It wasn't like, she was like, well, now my life's good and I'm going to be a social worker. Like she was going into the projects going to Cabrini Green going to places and then you know just kind of and sometimes she would take me and she'd just be like you know if you don't this is where you can end up if you don't you know take your schooling properly if you don't you know and that's one thing i love about my mom
Starting point is 00:54:58 is that she was always extremely hardworking and extremely active with us and showed us other things took us to museums took us to um musical performances and just showed us art and showed us art and showed us that the world was bigger than where we were. And it's just, she's always been a helper. You know, she went from being a social worker to being a nurse. And she worked with a private nurse for a while with a bunch of rich older people. And she didn't like it. And she started working as a nurse in a prison and loved it.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And, you know, just being able to help people and giving care to some people who a lot of people have turned their backs on. And so she loved, she said they're, you know, she hated her cold. workers and love the prisons. And my mom's just a helper. And now, you know, she's got four grandbabies. She lives with my sister and splits time over here and just real friends, great and kids. And whenever my friends have a trouble, like my friend's dog died and she was like, can we call it?
Starting point is 00:56:00 He was like, can we call your mom? My mom is just like the best advice giver, the best supporter, because she's been through so much and she's seen so much. And it's always such great advice. And, you know, she was one of the, when I made the decision to get divorced and get separated, she was one, you know, I was really surprised because I felt like, you know, get some judgment. I got some of my cousins being like, you guys should try to figure it out. But you don't, you've never been to her house. If you've been here, you might not say that.
Starting point is 00:56:34 You've seen the chemistry over here. You might not say that. But my mom was just like, she's like, especially, you know, I have the little baby and everything. So I was really worried about what she said. And the first words out of her mouth is that she was proud of me. She's like, I understand. She's like, I can't imagine how tough of the decision this is for you, knowing that you're not going to see your son every day, knowing that your life's going to change, knowing that you, you know, you might lose some money, you know, knowing all these things and you're still making the tough right decision for you. And she's like, I'm proud of you.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And that's just kind of like the person my mom's always been. been a big supporter, supported my comedy from the beginning, and then fell off two years in. Because she, but then she came back around. One final question, you know, I always imagine for people who grew up with parents who were like therapists or social workers that it's like having a built-in therapist.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Is that what it felt like? Or you mentioned you've been to therapy? Was there a point of your life where you're like, I need help that's besides my mom's wisdom? Yeah, oh, for sure. Sure, yeah, when you realize you're making me again, I've been divorced twice. And so you can't blame that on other people of holy. You've got to look at your own patterns and cycles that you have.
Starting point is 00:57:55 And that's what I'm focusing on this year. I'm trying to stay single for a whole year because I'm a serial monogamous. I jump into other relationships and put my energy into those people instead of focusing on myself. And now I'm grilling salmon and grilling shrimp for myself. I wouldn't have done that before. I would have thought that was too difficult. Turned out pretty easy. And so I'm really focusing on myself
Starting point is 00:58:23 and being able to be a great dad and great, just happy and have a good mental mind state. So therapy has been a big part of that for sure. I'm a therapist, Donna, who I love very much, but seeing each other monthly, which makes me feel great. Because I'm like, if it was more than that, I feel like I really got some issues that she was like, I need to see you every single week or every day. But the fact that she's like, once a month is fine.
Starting point is 00:58:50 She's like, all right, we got some obstacles. But in general, doing good. I'm told that you have mood board parties. Yeah. Is this a thing? Yeah. Can you explain what a mood board is for people who don't know? And can we get an invite?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Because that sounds awesome. You want to come? Yeah, with my little vision board party that we do is basically a New Year's tradition for. me because I don't drink. I'm allergic to alcohol and I realize I've been spending a lot of New Year's ease just chasing women around and ended up on party buses that
Starting point is 00:59:22 didn't want to be on. And I was like, this does not seem productive. That's how I met mine. Out of party bus? So you're going to unmeat me too. Yeah, that sounds like a place you hang out. And I'd heard about vision boards and just
Starting point is 00:59:41 decided to have a party one day in my apartment and just was kind of skeptical but still into it and we did it and I put that I wanted to get a house for my oldest son on that time as we lived in the is it pictures is words yeah okay let me explain it go from scratch
Starting point is 00:59:58 sure it's just like a business plan but for your life you know you wouldn't just come into a bank asking for a loan with no business plan and you can't go into your life life for the year with no guidance, no goals, no map. So it's just like whatever you want on there, spiritual goals, physical goals, just
Starting point is 01:00:20 materialistic goals. Like my bidet in my Japanese toilet, my to my toto-neurrest. It was on my vision board years ago. And are you using magazines? The internet? Yeah, magazines. Just like a bunch of magazines. A bunch of magazines.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Sometimes the internet, sure. And scissors and glue. is very crafty. How big is this vision board? I mean, like poster size, but you could really free form. Like the science fair in eighth grade like that? Pretty much. A lot of it's like that because we present them at the end. Do you also bedazzle them? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:52 There's stuff to make them decorative and fun. Yeah, if you want to, you know, like words of affirmation or just pictures that make you feel powerful or strong? Sure. I like a pompom. Yes. And then you share them with one another. Is there any like discussion notes? Like how does it work? No one gives you notes because they're not allowed to give you notes on your goals and dreams. But we...
Starting point is 01:01:14 Says you. Sure. Okay. You're really pressing on this invite. You're going to come in and change the vibe. She's like, set the bar higher. Well, we don't give prizes for the best mission board. I can't win anything.
Starting point is 01:01:33 No, well, we discussed it. A lot of times it led to people kind of like collaborating with each other when they realized that they had similar goals that could help each other in different ways. That's nice. Yeah, so the last one was in my house. We had like 30, 40 people. I would have to be very intoxicated. You can be.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I would be terrified. No, this sounds amazing. I'm already crying, thinking about it. Sounds very supportive. Yeah, people cry. We order a lot of healthy food and, you know, healthy-ish. We still have party. And then people do get inebriated.
Starting point is 01:02:06 And then they share their dreams. and then they, you know, go home. No, I mean I would need to be inebriated just to be in that social situation with all that vulnerability. You'd be fine. You'd love it. People would be crying.
Starting point is 01:02:17 You would love a good cry. What a great way to bring in the new year. I changed my mind. Okay. He's like, I don't want her at my party. You go and you tell me how it is. I will. Yeah, I feel like you, you people will love you there.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I'm into this. I got to build my vision board. I got to start getting magazines because I don't have magazines. All our magazines just have words I know Just all your Harper's magazines It's just words
Starting point is 01:02:45 It's just words And some weird abstract poem Ron you mentioned Kismet Way earlier in this episode Do you feel like a divine intervention In your life? Because you know I make up that you're Quite spiritual and setting intention
Starting point is 01:03:03 And it sounds like you're practicing mantras and you have the spiritual relationship with jiu-jitsu, and I have a lot of questions about how you got your comedy presence because we've spoken to a lot of comedians, it turns out, on this podcast, and they're great storytellers, obviously, but there's something about them becoming themselves on stage. You know, what I love about your comedy is like, you're so... I was really excited to meet you in person
Starting point is 01:03:32 because your comedy presence is so unique. I was watching a bunch of your Instagram videos yesterday and just to like remind myself about some of your stuff. And like you feel so calm on stage. You know, you have such a presence. And so I wanted to see is that just you? And from the, you know, being able to sit with you here, like it does feel like a lot like you. But I would imagine it takes a lot to get that to come to that and to be able to, you know, be that, especially on stage all the time. Like, how did you do that, you know, maybe not a simple answer? And then I guess
Starting point is 01:04:10 the second part is like, do you feel some sort of divine intervention that got you there or still guides you know? I mean, I guess that's still like that answer easier, which is, yeah, I mean, I'm just a big believer in most things. I believe in more things than not. And because I think it's just more fun. And just like I prefer things sauteed or then fried because it's more fun to say. So that's how I like to live my life. And I've just felt that way, just through different things in my life, through the timing and things in my life where I certainly feel that there is a guidance sometimes from whether it's, you know, ancestors or whatever you want to call it. It's hard to put words on it. But I just believe in multiple planes and that we happen to believe live on
Starting point is 01:04:59 this current physical plane. But when we pass on, maybe we, maybe we, we, on to another one and that seems fun why not and as far as being myself on stage it's just I mean it's a true journey it's a ever active it's like staying balanced on a ball you know like it seems chill but it's a lot of core work is a lot of like focus and a lot of like going through things in my life just moving around a bunch having my son at an early age, having my son have special needs. There's a lot of things that happen in my life that really folks forced me
Starting point is 01:05:39 to really dive into individuality. Having a son who had autism was like, okay, he's going to be different. Our lives are going to be different. The way that he needs to be parented is going to be different, and I'm going to have to defend all of that. And so I
Starting point is 01:05:55 need to be able to defend myself, my individualities, who I am as a person, and continue to push that. and getting some success in seeing that the way that it changed me a little bit and send me some ways to change my friends where it's like, okay, wow, you used to be super fun and chill
Starting point is 01:06:14 and I could make fun about your thing but now if I make fun about the project that you're on, you're mad because if it gets canceled you think you're never going to work again, I don't live like that. I think that, you know, things get canceled. I always kind of like feeling like this.
Starting point is 01:06:29 We're like, yeah, okay, I worked on this because I was new and then I'm doing this. Yeah, that probably, it probably sucked. Sure, but I was learning and no one else was going to give me an opportunity to learn. So I did it. And just being able to kind of dig back into like what I love in comedy and that is not. I mean, Conan O'Brien gave me one of the greatest compliments I've ever received.
Starting point is 01:06:50 And I always think about it and guys me all the time is that I was on a show doing a couch and we were just joking and around. And I said something and improvised and made them really laugh. And then, you know, we go a commercial and he just leans over to me. And he goes, you know what I like about you? He said, you like comedy just for comedy. You don't like it because of what it's going to give you. I can tell you just love comedy. And that's always stuck with me.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And I was like, man, I love that he could see that in me because it is true. And I'd never want to lose that. And in order to do that, I have to just be myself, be free, be happy. And even the divorce was a lot of that of just like, okay, I thought I had something that I really wanted and was fully in love with. And when I started to feel it not feeling right for me and not feeling like it was going to help my...
Starting point is 01:07:42 Because everything's tied together. If my life is, if anything is a screwed in my life, my comedy goes that way as well. So I was like, oh, if there's an issue here is going to affect everything I do. So I need, as hard as it is, I have to continue to dig deeper into myself. And that's where I feel like I gained most of my knowledge.
Starting point is 01:08:01 is internally. It's just through time, through things unlocking. It's a lot of times where there's certain things I'm like, huh, I didn't know that. But there's a lot of things where I go, huh, somehow I think I knew that. And now I've unlocked it.
Starting point is 01:08:13 But I didn't know that. It's a weird, yeah, I didn't know I knew. But I knew that. And that's interesting. I don't know how to explain that. But I hope that answers your question. It sounds, what I make up is you sound integrated, you know, to say that everything is connected
Starting point is 01:08:29 and that, oh, some people will be like, the marriage isn't okay, but I can escape into comedy. But for you to be like, oh, that isn't working and it's going to have spillover effect, it sounds like you're just integrated. And in that integration, you bring yourself to the stage and to being present. And I think a lot of people can listen to that
Starting point is 01:08:48 and learn from it and relate to it, no matter what they do for a living. Yeah. Well, yeah, I agree with you. And it's just that the biggest thing in that, I mean, the earliest lesson I took in, because I could just go to an open mic and I'd see these people
Starting point is 01:09:01 and some of them wrote these jokes that were just so great and I was like, wow, I couldn't write a joke like that. Some of them be so like wild and on stage and so like charismatic and I'm like, oh, I don't I'm not, I'm a more introverted than that. And some of them had washboard abs
Starting point is 01:09:17 and I was like, well, I don't have that. And so it was a point where I was like, oh, I can't chase or beat certain people that think like the best weapon I have is me. And so the more me I become, the more I dig into what I am and what I love and what I'm about, the more I differentiate myself, and I think it's served me well now. And just that, you know, I don't get a ton of auditions, but when I do, a lot of them are meant for me. A lot of them are written in my voice. A lot of
Starting point is 01:09:49 time, you know, I've had a lot of breakdowns that come run funch's type. And I take that as a, you know, a huge compliment even though I'm continuing to change. So, you know, who knows what that even means? It's been such a pleasure to get to talk to you in more depth. Thank you for letting us pick your brain. I highly recommend that people go see you. Can you tell us where you're going to be? On November and December, I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Can you tell me? Thank you. Let's pull it in. Oh, yeah, let's just keep it here. That's very helpful. You're going to be in Vegas. I will be in Las Vegas. Oh, please come.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I swear to God, it's going to be a horrible time. Probably for me. Not for you. I will do great. I will work real hard, but I'm imagining it's going to be, oh, half full is probably optimistic. So if you could come by, there's a lot of entertainment choices, but if you're into the introspective silence, I'm a single father while you're in Las Vegas. Wise guys, November 3rd and 4th.
Starting point is 01:11:04 If you're in LA, please, I do this show with my friend Blair Saki called Fun Voices. We have a bunch of friends. It's a secret lineup. It's 1030, November 18th at the comedy store in the belly room. Other than that, I'll be in San Diego at the American Comedy Club. Right around Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Yeah, I think now that we've got moved to a week after, December 8th and 9th. So, and then other than that, I'm just hanging around Los Angeles. because I'm trying not to tour as much because I'm trying to get my health together. Tell people about the podcast. Oh, it's called Getting Better with Ron Funches. It's a comedic self-help podcast and just like personal journey of whatever I'm going through. We have guests on occasion, people who I love and enjoy and want to find out how they got to where they are and how they're continuing to get better.
Starting point is 01:11:54 And then a lot of times it's just me talking about my life for the last couple weeks. what I'm doing to get better because it's hard to book a podcast on time. And then they come by and then they're like, I didn't like what I said. Let's not do that. And I was like, I'm a, you and this is a very limited time that I have. Well, it's been so much fun having you. We wish you all the best and hope to see you at a gig. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I would love to see you on stage. Oh, I love that. Live and in person. It's pleasure. I always enjoy talking. talking with you. It's been fun meeting you. Wow, what a great combo platter. That's what we say. From our breakdown to the one we hope you never have. We'll see you next time. It's my and be all next time. She's going to break it down for you. She's got a neuroscience PhD or two.
Starting point is 01:12:47 One fiction. And now she's going to break down. It's a breakdown. She's going to break it down.

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