Mayim Bialik's Breakdown - Sharon Stone Nearly Died, Saw a Blinding White Light, and Was Told by Five Orbs Her Destiny Was To Stay Alive
Episode Date: September 8, 2026Sharon Stone has never shared a conversation quite like this.The Basic Instinct and Casino star, bestselling author of The Beauty of Living Twice, artist, producer, and humanitarian opens up ...on Mayim Bialik's Breakdown about the extraordinary experiences that completely transformed how she sees life, consciousness, death, love, and the universe.She reveals the terrifying near death experience she had after suffering a devastating stroke and coma, traveling through a brilliant light, sensing deceased loved ones, and communicating with mysterious orbs that spoke in what she describes as a digital language. Sharon explains why she now believes the soul survives death, why we're not alone in the universe, why there are more than three dimensions, and why higher consciousness is something we can all access.She also recounts the mysterious physical attack that left her repeatedly struck in the chest over several days with absolutely no memory of what happened, being struck by lightning as a teenager, surviving an accident that nearly decapitated her while riding a horse, her thoughts on past lives, and why her father believed she was the reincarnation of an ancient pharaoh.Sharon shares why she believes high pattern recognition is a genuine form of psychic ability, how prayer feels like a vibrational frequency we can tune into, why energetic boundaries are essential, how she channels while painting, and how her stroke unexpectedly activated synesthesia and new parts of her brain.Sharon says she believes Mayim is her "soul contact" before giving her a spontaneous palm reading. She also tells the remarkable story of the famous psychic who once worked with Tina Turner and accurately predicted her career, life path, and that she would eventually meet the love of her life later in life.She opens up about her difficult recovery from her stroke after doctors believed she had less than 30 days to live, how she discovered that prognosis through a tabloid, the years she spent relearning how to read, rebuilding motor skills, getting off medication, and why she refused to accept that her story was over.Sharon reflects on the role that made her a global icon—Basic Instinct—explaining how it helped her discover her authentic self while also opening the door to darker people entering her life. She discusses why she enjoys playing psychologically complex and dark characters, why some actors unfairly earn the label of being "difficult," and why Hollywood often struggles to understand people who grew up outside its world.She also shares what it was like growing up in rural America, why being a highly precocious child with an exceptionally high IQ shaped her life, how her mother's traumatic childhood affected their family, why gratitude is one of the most powerful healing forces we have, and why our standards of beauty desperately need to evolve.The conversation explores why she never understood the backlash she received for speaking about the George W. Bush presidency, her deep friendship with Willie Nelson and how he helped her through one of the hardest periods of her life, and what her dating life looks like today, including why she's chosen celibacy.Sharon reveals why she absolutely loved The Big Bang Theory, why she wanted to appear on the show, and how her lifelong fascination with physics connects to her deepest beliefs about reality itself.This is a conversation about survival, consciousness, intuition, resilience, Hollywood, spirituality, science, healing, creativity, and discovering who you really are!For a limited time, get $250 off Cove Pure water filtration at http://www.covepure.com/breakdownEvery self-made person started somewhere. Yours starts free at https://www.shopify.com/breakdown.Go to https://helixsleep.com/breakdown to receive up to 30% off your Helix mattress.Visit https://drinkag1.com/BREAKDOWN and get a FREE AG1 Flavor Sampler and a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3 + K2 in your Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription order.Sharon Stone's memoir, The Beauty of Living Twice: https://a.co/d/0gfKkR4DSharon Stone's art: https://sharonstonestudio.com/Follow us on Substack for Exclusive Bonus Content: https://bialikbreakdown.substack.com/BialikBreakdown.comYouTube.com/mayimbialikSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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I nearly died.
I was traveling very, very quickly up through this very bright white light.
At the top of it, I saw some of my friends who had passed away.
It was just so beautiful.
What you're describing is a near-death experience.
These five orbs presented themselves to me, and they talked to me.
Had anything like this ever happened to you?
Jesus, no.
I don't know if I'm supposed to stay here or if I'm supposed to die.
They said, you're supposed to stay, but your death.
Destiny requires that we stay with you.
Were you scared?
Humanitarian and award-winning actress Sharon Stone
discusses her new book about her spiritual journey,
channeling, and her near-death experience.
When I had basic instinct, I was very young and inexperienced.
I opened some dark doors.
Dark people, dark things came into my life.
Just because the devil's a very interesting person at the cocktail party
doesn't mean you should give him a seat.
It feels like you almost lost yourself.
for a moment.
Yes, but the light is what saved me.
I'm really good at playing characters that lived
because I can channel them.
I have a belief in a higher power.
Do I know what that is?
No.
That allows me to be open to finding, knowing,
experiencing the what.
Right now is the moment to tune into the higher consciousness.
Give me your right hand.
Right now?
And open your right.
wrist. Who's Elaine?
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Hi, I'm I am Biallick.
I'm Jonathan Cohen.
And welcome to our breakdown.
We have an unbelievable episode for you today, Sharon Stone,
internationally recognized actress, artist, producer, humanitarian,
and New York Times bestselling author of The Beauty of Living Twice is with us today.
But this is not just your role.
run-of-the-mill celebrity interview. Oh, no. We go deep into psychic premonitions, a darkness that
she feels attached to her after her fame from basic instinct, as well as things she's never shared
before about her relationship with consciousness and with beings outside of this realm.
She discusses multiple near-death experiences that she went through and a medical ordeal that
will leave you speechless. You know, Sharon has been
been in the press for a variety of reasons over the course of her career. But most recently,
on the topic of her book, she's going to explore what it has been like for 25 years to be
rebuilding her skills after a significant sub-arachnoid hemorrhage and stroke. And the way that
she had to fight to maintain her sanity in an incredibly insane medical situation, which spilled
out to every part of her life and her career.
Sharon also describes an interaction with a psychic when she was only 23 years old that laid
out the future of her entire career, including the moment she finds herself in right now in
her life and why she feels so overly connected to my aim that she had to come here today.
Sharon's also going to talk to us so much about her incredible acting career.
And good time to mention she can be seen in the latest season of Euphoria on HBO Max.
And she co-stars with a Miami-Bialk's breakdown friend Mark Marin in In Memorium, which recently premiered at Tribeca.
So make sure to check both of those out as well as Sharonstone Studio.com.
It's a really special episode.
We cannot wait for you to hear this one.
We're welcoming in person Sharon Stone.
Welcome to the breakdown.
Break it down.
I just want to say before you get started, I'm like such a fan girl of you.
What?
It's like, I have to like settle down.
Oh, I just, I'm sorry.
I mean, that doesn't even feel normal.
I have to get the craziness out.
Okay.
Are you a beaches fan?
You watch Big Bang Theory?
No, I'm a physics fan.
Oh, that, well, you were a crazy.
I was a college at 15.
I was fascinated.
I didn't know anything about you in this realm.
Like, you're a crazy, like, intellectual.
I wanted to be on Big Bang Theory.
Oh, my God.
And your asshole writer, director, said to me, what would you play?
It's a show about physicist.
And I was just like, because he couldn't see past my exterior to get that I had the fucking brain power to do it.
First of all, plenty of us act smart and we're not.
You don't have to make up the physics to be a part of the show.
I was just like I wanted to knock his teeth out.
Well, okay, this is actually a fascinating.
place to start because like I'm 50. When I was growing up, you know, as an actress in my teens,
in my 20s, like, you were it. You were it. You were the hottest, most like sharp, like phenomenal,
sexy, badass woman. Like that was the portrait. That sexuality came from an intellectual place.
because yeah, I was naked, but the reason, like, people still come to me,
they came to me to talk to me about doing a sequel now and sat down and said,
you know, because she was a serial, she's a serial killer.
And I was like, she killed one person?
Like, what's cereal?
Like, get a clue.
This was not about the killing.
And honestly, I didn't know much about you.
and as we were, you know, looking at Valerie's research that she did for this episode,
like I did not realize you had an entire other intellectual universe and the fact that like
because you look the way you do, right, people shouldn't.
Acting isn't haven't even been my main thing in these recent years.
Not even your recent years.
Like as a young person, tell us a little bit about what it was like growing up you and your
exceptional precociousness.
Yes.
And I grew up in this town that was so small that, like, kids drove their tractors to school when they finished their chores.
You know, we got our milk from the dairy in these, like, you know, three foot tall metal cans.
And my mom grew the vegetables and fruit that we ate in the garden.
And my dad hunted and fished for the things that we ate.
And, you know, I would come home from school and there would be a.
deer hanging on my swing set, you know, from the tree that my swing was in and turkeys
strung out on the clothesline. And they are gigantic, by the way. That's just a Saturday night for us.
Right. You know, like, this is so people, and then so when people started this, like, anti-fur
campaign, and, like, these are the same people that were wearing ugg boots and, and, and
putting their makeup on with brushes made of, guess what? Fur. Like, it was like,
I was like the absurdity of it all was not lost on me.
You know, like, what do you think the sofa you're sitting on is strung together with?
So what were you like as a kid?
Were you outdoorsy?
Were you hunting?
Like, was that your life?
Well, sure.
You know, we were thrown out of the house in the morning and you came back, hello, at dark.
When the lights came on, your parents put the lights on and you drank water out of the hose.
You know, it was not anything like would people even remotely understand.
And you crawled out the window to shovel the snow away from the front door so you could get out.
You know, I don't think people have any comprehension of this life in TV land.
Yeah.
And so I find all of the way that people sort of behave kind of bordering on absurd.
And so when I was behaving.
in the way that I was as a tiny child. My mother took me to the local courthouse to find out what was going on with her kid. And they gave me an IQ test and said, you know, there's nothing wrong with your kid. She just has this really high IQ, which is remarkable because the same thing happened to me with one of my kids. Because I adopted three children. And one of my kids was just screaming and spinning.
in his chair and could hear things from, but I would have to walk out the front door,
walk out to the street and walk down to the end of our street to think, what is my kid hearing?
And I didn't understand what was going on with my kid.
Is that what it looked like for you as a kid?
Like, were you sensing things?
It looked like, you know, almost like a lot of psychic ability when really I was just highly
observant. It's what they sort of call high potential intellect, right? You know, where you're just like,
you really see like, you know, and you really sense and see a lot of things because you're really
on the ball. And you learn to, you know, walk, talk, potty train, read, write, do everything really,
really young way before other kids. Precocious, right? And then the school calls because you're teaching
other kids to do these things and you're making what they thought was a lot of trouble for the
teacher. You were treating kids cursive, is that right?
I think you're cursive and algebra and things that, you know, are, you know, non-existent
anymore. Right. Right. Right. Foreign language like cursive. Right. Yes. What were your parents
like? I mean, were both of them surprised that they had this child? What was it like for them?
Well, my parents were both orphaned in their own ways.
You know, my mother, because she was extraordinarily abused, she was taken out of her home and given to a family to be their housekeeper when she was nine during the Depression.
And so she was abused some more, but what was considered better abuse to be a child labor.
Yeah.
And then my father came from extraordinary wealth and a long line of royalty, which he was considered.
He never knew before he died, that he was a descendant of, he was Hugo Nott.
And so he was a descendant of King Hugh and Queen Nora who founded France.
You found this out after he died.
After he died.
And all the prince and princesses of Burgundy.
And he was actually Joseph William Stone, the third.
But he never knew that.
And they were wildcat oil drillers in Oil City, Pennsylvania.
But the oil well blew and killed everybody.
and the money was given to the oldest living male survivor, which was, of course, not his mother, who had had the right to all the money because women didn't get anything.
And so he was given away at four to live in people's barn stall.
He and his brother and his mother took her daughter and became a nurse in an insane asylum.
Wow.
And so my dad was really on his own, and my dad went to work and raised money and bought that home back.
And it was a somewhat dilapidated but giant mansion, which I ended up going to and living in with my aunt and my grandmother on all of my school breaks, weekends, summers.
I lived with these very eccentric women
who did think they were quite to the man are born.
Yeah.
And grew up in this really eccentric way.
I mean, that sounds like its own entire book.
You know, I really would like to write a book about it and them
because they were really something.
Well, and also just this notion that your dad came from royalty
and how much of that is in your DNA, right?
My father was really an extraordinary.
gentleman. You know, he was the guy who pulled out the chair for my mom at dinner every night and helped her on with her coat and stood up when she entered the room. And he just had this way about him. You know, we called him the legend because he was really, you couldn't swear in front of him, though my mother had a mouth like a Portuguese dog worker. You know, every other word was swearing. So it was really pretty eccentric.
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So growing up, you know, you have this exceptional mind.
When did you realize that you operated differently in a way that made you feel like you had different dreams?
When you say that, it really reminds me of, I don't remember was maybe, I don't know, second grade or something where they tell you you have to memorize a poem and come to school.
And everybody memorizes the poem about the tree.
Mm-hmm.
You know, home as lovely as a tree.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I remember, and I.
I memorized every stanza of Edgar Allan Poe's Annabelle Lee.
Oh, my goodness.
And I got up in front of the class, and when I started, the teacher's face was so in shock.
But by about the fifth stanza, she looked like she was going to pass out.
Wow, it's a long one.
Yeah, they just, she just was so.
really what the fuck is happening here.
You mentioned that some of the abilities you had seemed like they could have been
interpreted as psychic.
What did it look like?
What did your knowledge feel like?
Were you sensing things that were about to happen?
What were you experiencing?
I just have heightened observation.
And yes, I think.
And an ability.
high pattern recognition.
Okay.
Really high pattern recognition.
Do you think that's what being psychic is, or do you think there's an extra set of abilities?
Like, I'm curious because a lot of times we speak to channelers or we speak to mediums,
and a lot of it is what you're describing.
I think it's mostly high pattern recognition.
Interesting.
I think that's the majority of what it is, is high pattern recognition.
Do you believe that people can know information without having seen the pattern?
meaning like that information is just available in a field that can be tapped into?
I think this is why I'm so, such a fan girl about people who are physicists and people who are involved in physics.
I think, you know, I saw someone on Instagram say that they thought that religion, spirituality, mysticism, witchcraft, you know, all of these things.
the field that it was all the same. And I wonder what you think about that. We're big fans of this
kind of notion of really trying to not find the scientific explanation for things that don't have
science, but what if we're all describing the same thing in different ways? Yes, this is what I also
wonder. And when we, I just watched the new Steven Spielberg movie. And I think that when people
imagine that we are the only life form. And it's like really being a flat earther to me.
It's like, really, it's such an ego trip to me to imagine that we're the only life form or that
we're the superior life form, even on our planet. I think that's so, such arrogance. And it's
hurtful and I think it's so limiting and I think it limits our understanding and it limits our ability
to hear and see and know if we do that. I think it's it's hurtful both intellectually and emotionally and
psychically, I think we're limiting ourselves so much to not hear and be grateful to all things.
I think we have to be grateful to, it's going to sound really crazy to many people, but even be
grateful to this table for becoming a table. Yes. This wood, this tree became this table.
I am really deeply grateful to such an emotional level that I know people will think that I'm nuts.
But I am grateful.
I am grateful.
I am grateful to each and everything at a level that I just don't think that people really get it.
And it is profoundly lazy.
to me. I have to tell you the fact that you're like a fan of the Big Bang theory, like it blows my mind because it's so hard for me to separate all the things that I've thought I knew about you, right, from the person that you are underneath and like learning all these things. Like in terms of your health challenges, did that inform some of this gratitude in a new way? Well, let me tell you, what happened to me was so intensely violent.
I was attacked over a couple of days, but it was a kind of attack that had been happening to me over several years.
And I was trying to love this away.
I was trying to become so expansive that I could stop this with love.
and for some reason the love was making it worse.
And it took me a long time to recognize and to learn.
And I'm a Buddhist, right?
And so Buddhism is not a religion.
It's a philosophy.
So it does not exclude being spiritual, which I also really, really am.
I have a belief in a belief in a religion.
a higher power. And do I know what that is? No. And I'm also really kind of glad that I don't know
what it is because that allows me to be open to finding, knowing, experiencing the what,
to knowing that it could be this table.
It could be the air that we breathe.
It could be the water.
It could be the octopus in the octopus movie,
which I found incredibly moving as well.
Totally.
I am open to all things communicating to me and explaining it to me,
not just a thing or a prescribed thing.
but I am also open to everybody's thing being a part of that thing and honoring all those things
that people give their love to because I do believe that love is the language with which we will
find it.
There's also a lot of hard science now on having that element of awe and wonder that you described
in an appreciation because gratitude for me is almost too simple.
Agreed.
To be moved in that way is to be animated and to have emotion, which is to have the core essence of energy of our life moving through us.
And so many of us have been muted, right?
Like we don't feel anything anymore.
Right.
Because we don't have that wonder.
We don't have that appreciation for anything.
It's not like we think we're so analytical.
Well, this table was engineered in this particular way versus like all the pieces that had to come together.
and the wood and the material that grew for however long before it got transferred into this.
Like, that's pretty awesome.
And all the trees that talk to each other in the forest, in the way that they do, in the way that
they lean together and discuss with each other.
And this one had to be removed.
And where did that leave the other ones?
Their friend left the forest to come here.
And to be part of this discussion today, right?
And to open itself so that we might.
get whatever information they talked about might come into this awe-inspiring conversation
and might tell me, oh, today's the day you're going to tell them what happened after your stroke,
right? Because I never told anybody this thing that I feel inclined to tell you now,
which is that when I was in and out of a coma in the hospital, right? All these things happened.
and I had one to five percent chance of surviving.
No one thought that I would live.
And then, of course, no one thought I would recover, right?
And I have varying states of recovery.
Sometimes it's great.
Sometimes it's not great, right?
Sometimes I have good times.
Sometimes I have hard times.
I was on medication for 25 years.
I decided that I was going to go on.
off the medication in this last eight months. I came off two of the medications that I was on. I decided
that's enough of that. I'm going to see if I can be without those last two medications.
I came out of the hospital. I was on about 16 medications. And over the years, I got off a variety of
these medications. And I was able to do it. These last two, it's been brutal.
and people told me you can't you can't do it you can't do it you can't get off those you're not
going to get off those and I was like you know I am and it's been a brutal journey brutal
difficult painful physically violent but I've done it and I'm doing it what do you attribute that
to like do you feel like you've been able to do something to help
overcome those odds?
Two of my three children are sober children.
And I made a decision that I would see if I could be sober from prescription medication
and what that would be like.
And is that possible?
And is that possible in a world that's driven by pharmaceutical companies?
And is that possible in recovery from serious,
illness. And after, when I came home from the hospital, I read in People magazine that I wouldn't know
for a month if I was going to live, that there was a month after the kind of surgery that I had
that was unsteady and unstable and where people wouldn't know if they would live or die.
You read about it in People magazine? Yeah, because one of the doctors that I fired was a complete
asshole. And he thought it was terrific to discuss my case with People magazine because he wanted to be
famous and he wanted to be important. Is that not a HIPAA violation? He's, you know, I think we all
know that homeless people and famous people get the worst medical care of everyone. Sorry. Sharon Stone,
that's amazing. I've never heard anyone say that. And women get treated just terribly. I mean,
tampons were used on human blood this year for the first time.
Hormones, female hormones, were tested on men because they got a more consistent response.
I mean, the way that medicine has been tested on women is just atrocious.
And I work in medicine.
That is what I do.
I work on health care and health care for women and children.
and housing and care for women and children,
I have spent the majority of my adult life doing just that.
That is how I won a Nobel Peace Summit Award,
that Einstein Award,
all these bazillions of awards that I have been given in my lifetime
for that work.
You know, this is the work I really have dedicated myself to
profoundly and around the world.
Can you give us a framework so people can understand what happened?
You had a subarachnoid hemorrhage.
The attack was before then, correct?
I was continually being hit in the chest and shoved into closets.
And the day before this happened, I was hit in the chest a lot.
And I didn't really understand what it happened to me until 10 years later.
When I went to a clinic in Santa Monica, because I was.
was having a lot of problems with my neck and shoulders, and I thought it was arthritis,
because my family has, my sister has lupus, and my father had celiac disease.
And so, and that's a genetic issue. And so we all had rheumatoid arthritis and all this other
stuff. And mine's controlled to like zero because I'm disciplined like a soldier, you know.
I have an extraordinary sense of discipline.
So I thought, well, maybe it's arthritis.
You know, I need to go to this by Neck and Spine Institute.
And I went there and they were going to give me injections and they'd done all of this scans of my front and my back.
And they had put me under Propheal and they were coming in and they were going to do these injections.
And they came in and said, look, we can't do this because it's clear that you were attacked and it's a felony.
You mean you had damage that was evident as an injury?
My whole thoracic rib cage had been fractured and scarred and was together inappropriately.
And they were like, look, we have to report this.
And this was 10 years after the incident that you, wow.
Because I did not know how this happened to me.
I did not know how I'd ended up over the sofa with one sofa one way, one the other way, the coffee table, one way.
the coffee table one way, everything that was on the coffee table all over the floor.
So you woke up to what appeared to be an attack of some sort, but you had no memory?
No idea of what had happened to me.
And they never figured it out.
And then this happened 10 years later.
And no one investigated and no one asked me and no one, everyone just said, you know, she's crazy.
And my ex-husband said she's an alcoholic and a drug addict.
and he was the editor of a newspaper, and he took me to court seven times to get custody of my child
and tons of child support and to break me financially and to ruin my career.
And everybody just believed it.
And, of course, I was never drinking because of the ciliac.
And I, you know, I never took drugs.
Everyone knew that I was a decaf tea drinking.
Like, you know, hippie girl who occasionally smoked marijuana.
Like there was, I was like, you know, this very straight shooter.
Right.
And a very disciplined, hardworking person.
But my reputation was being destroyed.
My money was being just gone.
Yeah.
And so, and I had no idea what was happening.
And I was just trying to recover.
Were you in a relationship at the time with someone that might have hurt you that way?
Like, do we have any?
I was married to this guy who then divorced me and married his girlfriend, who was the Borders Bookstore heiress.
And so I had no, I did not know. And I was so fucked up.
Okay, so 10 years later, you're having this pain. I'm having this conversation.
And the guy says to me, we can't do this because it is clear that you were attacked.
Now, I had remembered being shoved into the closet the day before.
I had remembered waking up on the floor in the middle of an incredibly violent ordeal.
And the next day, this thing happened.
And I woke up, called my husband.
He kept hanging up on me.
I said, I need an ambulance.
I think I've had a stroke.
And he just kept hanging up on me and didn't come home for days.
for days. And when he did come home, he wouldn't help me until finally my best friend told him,
if you don't take her to the hospital, I'm calling the police. And he called my gynecologist,
and my gynecologist said, you will bring her here right now. This doctor said to me,
you, we have evidence that you were attacked. And it's a felony, and we have to report this. And we have to report it to the FBI.
We have to report it to the police, and you have to tell us what happened.
And I had a panic attack under Prophofol, which is not a good thing.
And I started screaming, like, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened.
Don't make me know. Don't make me know. And the nurse came in, and they were like, we're going to help you.
Wow.
And we're going to help you know. And they helped me know, and they helped me understand.
And so what happened took me back. The specific thing was.
I was going to tell you is that when I was first home from the hospital, I couldn't sleep at night,
and I was sleeping in the day. And when I was laying on the couch, sleeping and awake, these orbs sort of
presented themselves to me, these five orbs presented themselves to me. And they sort of talked to me,
but in a digital language.
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Jesus, no. And I've never told anybody this because how do you tell someone?
Right. Well, we'd like to think we're a safe place, but yeah. Right. And so they just kept sort of downloading in these ones and twos. One's and twos. And it was like, d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. And I just kept saying to them, I don't know if I'm supposed to stay here or if I'm supposed to die. And they said, you're supposed to stay. And I said, I can only stay.
If two of you will stay with my son.
Wow.
Because I don't want him to be alone, and I think he's going to get taken from me.
How old was he at the time?
One.
And sure enough, he was taken from me.
And I said, we have to have an agreement that two of you will stay with him.
Wow.
And protect him.
And they agreed.
Whoa.
And they said, but your destiny requires that we stay.
with you. How long did this go on? Several days. Wow. And that's, they just went
did they look like lights? They were just balls. Huh. Yes, of light. Of sort of golden swirls.
Huh. I would say light, but like clips of light. Like clips of light. Like clips.
of light, like clips of moving, pulsing light.
Were you scared?
No.
What was the feeling?
I was curious, but very much at peace.
I mean, you have to understand that I had this experience
when I was first, finally got to the hospital,
and I went in the MRI tube.
I think that I might have died in the tube and come out.
This is not the stroke.
This is when I first got to the hospital.
That's what we got it.
Right?
And I came out of the tube.
The doctor was standing over me and no one was in the room except my then husband who was standing far away from me.
And the doctor was looking at me in a way that, you know, doctors don't look at you.
And there were no nurses.
And I looked at him and said, I'm dying.
right? And he said, you're bleeding into your brain.
Sorry. No, please. And I said, I better call my mom. And my then husband said, I'll do it. And he said, no, you won't. You'll stay right there. He said, I'll do it. And he said, I'll do it. And he took his phone out. And he called my mom. And I told her what was happening.
And I said, I think I better call my best friend.
And I told her what was happening.
And she said, I'm on my way.
And I said, I need you to run my house.
She said, I will.
Then I had that white light experience that everyone talks about.
And I was traveling very, very quickly up through this very bright, very fast white light.
up, and at the top of it I saw some of my friends who had passed away.
Oh.
Looking at me, really beautiful.
It was just so beautiful.
And all of a sudden, I felt this kick in my chest that was so intense.
Like, I grew up in a farm.
It was like being kicked by a horse or a mule.
You know, I don't know if you've ever been enough.
Well, that's really, like, you, it happens.
You know what I mean?
like it's like it's an unbelievable experience and I was suddenly awake on the table and the table
the gurney felt like it was really high in the air like abnormally very very high and I suddenly
I didn't feel like I was myself I felt like I was myself five or six or six
six years old. And that I had very long hair, almost like a very, like Alice in Wonderland
kind of experience. And the doctor said, what do you need? And again, he told my then ex-husband,
don't touch her, stay away from her. So you were in and out of some sort of state and what
you're describing is a near-death experience. Yes. And I said, I have to pee. And he said,
Okay. Okay. Right.
I mean, I just feel you're so trapped, right?
Like, everything you mentioned about your ex-husband, I'm just like, there's this dark, just awful feeling.
And you're going through this process totally by yourself, navigating in and out of consciousness.
Then when you come back, you don't even have someone who's like there by your side that you can tether to.
No.
So, like, what are you coming back to? You're coming back to this like chaos room of not understanding what your physical.
reality is it just sounds totally overwhelming.
It was unbelievable, and I looked down and the floor seemed like it was so far away.
And I remember trying to get down to the floor, and I just thought, I'll just float down.
I'll get down.
Like, my little feet were like so far, and I just kind of slipped down on the floor.
And he showed me down the hallway, the doctor, who was so beautiful, he was so handsome.
I would never forget how handsome he was.
And I walked down the hall, and I remember that the doctor's eyes did no longer seem like regular eyes.
They seemed almost vibratory and bright, like, like bright, like bright, like extra bright.
Like he was imbued with a certain special brightness.
Wow.
Do you know what I mean?
and I walked down the hall and I peed, but, like, I peed like gallons.
Like, I just peed and peed and peed and peed.
It was very strange.
Which sometimes happens with near-death experiences I learned recently.
It's like a lymphatic release.
Like a lymphatic drain.
It's like literally like your body's like, nope.
Yeah, it just went, pf!
Yeah.
Right?
And I came back and he said,
we're transferring you to another hospital where they deal with this sort of,
of thing. And they put me on a gurney. They put me, I got back on the gurney and I passed out.
And then I was being put into the ambulance and I remember it was this Latino guy, this beautiful
Latino kind of chubby face guy. The gurney wheels hit the edge of the ambulance when they were
putting me in and it woke me up and I saw him at the end this beautiful face almost like a
Mayan face I saw him and at some reason seeing him made me feel really safe and I saw him with the
he was backlit in the sunlight and that I woke up when the gurney wheels hit the ambulance going
in I woke up for a second and saw him and passed out again and then I woke up
in neurological ICU.
And my then ex-husband slid out from under my bed.
And I felt it and I looked down.
And I was like, what's going on?
And I started ringing for the nurse.
I was like, what is he doing under my bed?
And they said, oh, he just wanted to be next to you.
so we let him stay under your bed.
And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
He can't do that.
And they never fully examined me, which was even,
and he kept telling them that I was faking it.
So they did, so first,
I woke up and I was being wheeled to exploratory brain surgery.
He had signed me up for exploratory brain surgery.
brain surgery without my knowledge or consent. And I woke up again because the gurney hit something on the
floor. Note to all the EMTs out there. Please be gentle with the gurneys hitting things with the wheels.
I was like, where are we going? And he's no to the operating room. I'm like, for what? Exploratory brain
surgery. I'm like, I did not sign up for that. Well, don't worry, it's all been taken care of.
I'm like, stop. No, we can't stop or we will be late. And he's.
He would not stop.
And so I stood up on the gurney with my hospital gown open, my ass in the breeze, and suddenly
everyone came running and nurses, orderlies, everybody, and this asshole doctor.
And he had a fax in his hand.
And he was screaming, you can't do that.
I'm on the phone with People magazine.
And I was like, what are you doing?
And I'm like, where am I going?
What's happening?
And the poor young kid said, you're going to exploratory brain surgery.
And I said, I'm not doing that.
I didn't sign up for that.
And the doctor said, yes, you did.
I said you did.
And I'm on the phone with People magazine.
And I said, you can't do that.
And he said, yes, I can.
your doctor. And I said, well, you're fired. And he said, you can't do that. And this head nurse
saved my life, this like 50-year-old head nurse, beautiful blonde woman came out. And she said,
well, she just did, sir. She just did. And she said, take her back to her room. And I wouldn't be
alive today. If it wasn't for her, I'd be the Francis Farmer story because he would have
sought off the top of my head while I was hemorrhaging into it from a sub-irachnoid rupture.
So what ended up happening? How did they end up treating that? There was a neurological
convention happening that week. And all of the neurologists were out of town at the convention,
which surprised, I'm sure they had of the editor of the
newspaper probably knew. And so, but that's just a guess on my part. So, um, they said, well,
there's no one here. Um, um, and, but there are, I said, well, I want to know all the ways
that this can be addressed. I want to know what is going on with me and I want to know what can
happen. And they said, well, there's a new technique.
has just been invented in Israel. And I had a very close relationship with Shimon Perez, and he was the guy who was, you know, creating all of this new funding and making all of this new stuff happen. And so I had a, I believed very strongly that that might be good. And because many of these new neurological techniques were coming out of Israel. And, um,
I said, well, I want to know about that.
I want you to tell me about that.
And they're like, well, you're hemorrhaging into your brain.
And I said, well, if I wait one more day for someone to get back here, what are the percentages?
What are the odds that I'll die, that I'll lose my ability to talk, think?
And they said, we don't know.
We can't give you these odds.
Well, you're a case of one.
Yes.
And I'm like, well, I want to wait.
I want you to get someone on a plane.
I want you to get them back here right.
now. And there was this guy who had just become a brain surgeon. And he was available. I'm like,
get him in here. And that doctor, again, I'll probably lose it because I respect and admire him so
much. Dr. Michael Lawton. My God. He was a kid. Was a kid. Went in and gave me, first they gave me a
this, what is now a very common technique. They go in through your femoral artery and go up,
and they missed it because they had not examined me and they did not know that I had had
breast tumors and was laying on one side and recovering.
So they were going to send me home a few days later because, as I say, my now ex-husband
kept telling them I was faking it.
And my best friend finally threw what she calls a full Shirley McLean and said, you are
giving her another test.
No one is faking being in a fucking coma.
And she convinced them to give another test when they discovered that,
my right vertebral artery was hanging by a thread, and I had hemorrhaged into my whole subarachnide pool,
which was my face, my head, my neck, and my spine.
Just for people who don't understand, explain what's happening.
Blood is going basically.
Where it ought not go.
There's like a casing over your brain that keeps everything in, like a giant Ziploc baggie that's sealed real tight.
But if it comes loose, everything that's in there can go.
to all the spaces. And people don't think about that, that like all the fluid in your brain and all
those blood vessels, they then connect. Like, that's why we're connected through your spine.
And like, yeah, like all these venous spaces, that's where everything goes. Exactly. And there is
nothing more painful than blood going where it's supposed not supposed to be. That's what happens
when you get a bruise. Well, this is like having a bruise in your brain, in your face, in your neck, in your spine.
It takes years, not days, years for that to recover.
And I'll explain later what that's like.
But so what was supposed to be like a 45-minute check ended up being a nine-hour brain surgery,
where they put 22 coils to replace my vertebral.
artery. So to explain what that means when Christopher Reeves ruptured his two vertebral arteries, he became a
paraplegic. So losing one is incredibly serious and incredibly dangerous and is incredibly
life-threatening. And to recover from that meant I had to recover my most.
skills, reading, writing, talking, walking, thinking, remembering. And prior to that, I had a
photographic memory, meaning I would go to work and I didn't have to learn my lines. I would just
look at them and go, great, great, great. And they'd go, oh, we're going to change that speech.
How much of it, all of it. Okay. No, no biggie. It was a nothing. Like learning in school was
like, I wrote everybody's term paper in college. I mean, I had a business going in college
writing term papers. It was like a breeze, sorry to say. I had to learn to learn.
Yeah. How many years ago was this? This is now 25 years ago. So this has been the work of your
life? Yes, because I had to learn to learn. Then I had to see, am I going to recover my photo
memory and that took a lot of years because I was terrified. Then I lived in terror and I lived in
paranoia because I didn't know what happened to me. And it all happened at the same chaotic time
that so many things were falling apart. Right. And my bank account got drained and I got blamed
for things I didn't do and hadn't ever done. And I got marked as a person who wasn't the kind of person
I was. And then I lost my, I was the biggest movie star on the fucking planet. And then suddenly
no one wanted to hire me. And I got named as things I wasn't. And my child, my baby got taken from me.
And all these things happened that were just indescribable. And I wasn't capable of explaining what
happened to me because it happened behind me. It happened from the, you know, it happened from the
the back of me. And I couldn't say what happened, even though my now ex-husband had been taken to court
and was in anger management and had attacked a person at his job. And no one would believe me
when I said, I felt unsafe. Why don't people believe women? Yeah. You said it. Yeah. Why don't people
ever believe women because this planet is a very peculiar planet and why it's set up this way
I'm not really certain but I think it's set up this way for a while for us to learn about these
things and for us to come to an understanding about certain things and for us to understand that
everyone on this planet is a woman or the children of women and that we must certainly come
to understand the reverence of that and the reverence for life and the reverence for Mother Earth.
I'm going to push a little harder because, like I said, you occupy such a special place for so many
women in particular. I'd like to give you the opportunity to kind of speak to what is it also about
powerful, beautiful women who kind of know how to own their shit that opens you up also to a different
kind of scrutiny? Well, I think first of all, we need to understand that all women are powerful
and all women are beautiful and that the garden is not just made of white roses. Like, let's get a
clue. Like there's peonies and daisies and cacti and all kinds of things.
and they're all beautiful.
Like to imagine that only a white rose is beautiful
is to understand that those are the most delicate flowers
that die very quickly.
And let's get a clue here of what beauty really is.
Well said.
And if you don't understand the vast breadth of beauty,
you really have really poor vision.
Just for starters.
Like get a clue about what's beautiful.
And I think that's the really principal first step.
And power, what is power?
So power is the grasp of truth.
That's power.
Power is not hoarding.
And a hoarder is a person that has too many things in their home that they don't need.
even if they're shiny and spectacular stuff, it's still hoarding.
It's still an illness.
Your book talks about, you know, kind of this opportunity to live again.
And I wonder if, you know, kind of tying back to this experience that you had with these
orbs, right, with some presence, what do you feel kind of has guided you or protected you?
or protected you in this phase of your life, your career, you're an incredible artist.
You know, you've turned so much of your attention and intelligence towards a different kind
of artistic expression. What has been guiding you? Is it spiritual? Is it whatever protection
these orbs were giving you? Something really interesting happened to me at one point. I mean,
I grew up in this way where, you know, when you live in the country,
everybody works together. If you don't help each other, you don't survive, right? That's just
basic common sense. But also, there was a period during the George Bush Jr. administration
where I had said that I didn't think he should be president, that I thought that he should have
been president of the tennis club.
That I thought that he was a very amiable, really kind-hearted, good-spirited, good-natured,
really good guy.
But I didn't see him as president of the United States.
And that I thought that this was really that his mother was really, really driven,
and his family was really, really driven.
And I didn't think it was really, really driven.
And I didn't think it was really appropriate.
And I got an incredible, what I did, and it was because I was on the cover of the Rolling Stone.
And I didn't understand my position, the power of my position, and the bounce back that would happen.
I thought you were such a badass.
Every one of my airline tickets had all those five stars.
every me and everyone that worked for me my taxes were um you know we had our taxes rolled um every time
I flew they strip searched me they strip searched my babies my strollers the my security person
I mean it was just violent we were taken in we had to take off our clothes everything happened
it was just and it went on for the whole time that that up during this thing and then I didn't I
suddenly couldn't get any jobs in my industry.
All of this stuff happened, and I didn't understand.
I didn't realize that, like, I had used my power in a way that felt disrespectful to the office of the president.
And I didn't know.
I was very naive to the fact that I had suddenly become considered powerful
and that I had used my power in a way that felt disrespectful to the office of the president.
I didn't understand that
and I didn't understand what had happened
It was also a very different time in entertainment history
like there was no social media
you know like the only way people were hearing things was read
like it was very different
I had no it was clueless
and this was the same time that they were selling
Willie Nelson's all his farm equipment
and he was getting all this
it was all happening to him
and I went to him
And I said, I, I, I, I, what's going on? Like, I just, like, I don't come from this. Like, I'm not from here. And I just, I'm clueless about why this is happening. And I really, I just said what I believed. I didn't mean to be, you know, overstepping. I really, I wasn't trying to be unkind to him. I really, I don't even think he was. I really, I don't even think he was.
really wanted to be president, to be honest. You know what I mean? I really was just being what I thought,
which is one of my probably best and worst qualities, is that I just have an inability to lie.
Right? And so, and Willie said to me, look, I like the thought of you and Willie Nelson in a
conversation that's funny to me. He's a wonderful human being and he's been a great friend to me.
That's so sweet. And I said to him, look, I don't know what to do. And he said, Sharon,
you have a vocation, he has a job, whether if it's four years or eight years, eventually he's
not going to have a job. But you will always have a vocation. So why don't you figure out what
you would like to do with your vocation while you're not being an actor? Do something that
really matters to you. And we will both do things that really matter to us. It's not going to change
who you are. Know who you are and do what you are. And when he doesn't have a job anymore,
you'll see if you get to be an actor. And it was beautiful. It was a beautiful part of my life.
And, you know, he's been a marvelous friend to me. Do you want to hear a Willie Nelson joke that I have?
Yes. I don't know what your sense of humor is like. What's the last thing you want to hear if you're
blowing Willie Nelson.
What?
I'm not Willie Nelson.
That's a really wicked joke.
That's a good joke, right?
You know, I was in Hawaii for, I don't know,
made me like my 40th birthday.
And I had just done Catwoman.
And I had bleached my hair white for that part.
And it was literally just breaking off.
my head. It was just...
From the peroxide. It was just done.
And so we wrapped
and I literally took packing scissors
and just cut it all off.
Because I had, it was done. I had, like,
my hair was done.
And I cut it off like
half an inch long all over my head
because I had to grow my hair back out.
It was just awful. And I went,
flew to Hawaii to meet my family
and my boyfriend was supposed to come and we were
going to have a party there. And my good friend,
lives in Hawaii, this guy named Shep Gordon.
And I was, and we were going to have this party over at my friend's house.
And my boyfriend called me and said that he was breaking up with me because he couldn't date
anybody that had hair this short.
Stop it.
Stop.
Okay.
Who was it a famous boyfriend?
No.
Oh.
It was this Nimwit.
Okay.
And so I went over to Shep's house.
and Willie and Shep were sitting on the floor together talking.
And I walked in and they looked at me and they went, what's wrong?
And I said, well, my boyfriend just broke up with me because he said he couldn't date anyone with hair this short.
And Willie leaned back and picked up his guitar and started playing this breakup song.
And I was like, oh, fuck you.
And he started following me around the house.
And he all day long and all night long, he and his son, who's now a huge star, they played every breakup song they ever knew until it became just hilarious.
And Mick Fleetwood and his wife came over.
And he started drumming on the coffee table.
And my parents came over and my family came.
And all these friends came over.
and it became the best party I've ever been to in my entire life.
Listening to every breakup song, Willie Nelson ever knew.
With your short hair.
With my short, white, fuzzy hair.
It was fantastic.
I don't want to kind of like leave this notion of, you know, this experience you had.
With my visitors?
Your visitors.
Well, I'm curious, you know, if you felt the presence of any.
else that gives you strength, that gives you kind of, you know, even the medications that you mentioned,
you know, I'm guessing that they were ones that sometimes were told, like, you're going to be
on this forever. This is just how your brain works and you need them. I'm curious what strength
you draw on, you know, does that experience go with you? I just say, you know, I am prepared to
accept my purpose and my destiny. I am prepared.
like maybe I was afraid before but I'm not afraid and I think I'm not afraid because my kids are adults
when they were younger when I was raising all these kids that I continued to adopt even in my
very crippled state I raised them and and I raised them and I always tried to make them
understand that I was a fragile person. And so they had to be strong and independent children.
Because what if something happened to me? You know, and they have really great godfathers
who know that they're second. They're the ones that would be up. And they bought a house with
rooms for my kids. And so they know these two wonderful guys, Neil and Kevin Gatz. They know
they're the ones. And they've been amazing with my kids. I mean, my kids, they bought a house that
sort of on the way to the school my kids went to, and my kids would stop and have breakfast with them
on the way to school. And they've been spectacular godparents to my children. And, you know, my kids
really, you know, knew there was a backup plan. And, you know,
You know, my kids are great. My kids are great kids.
We're going to hit pause here. There is so much more in part two of our conversation with Sharon Stone.
Why does she like playing dark characters? And what does the embodiment of those kinds of people bring to her life?
She also describes how we can all tune into higher consciousness, the fact that there are more than three dimensions, and what is actually,
actually happening when we're shaking hands. Are we exchanging energy?
We also talk more about her acting career and is she a difficult actress and is she a difficult
partner? Make sure to head over to Substack for bonus content from this episode and so much more,
Bialicbreakdown.substack.com. Also, check out Sharon in the latest season of Euphoria on HBO
Max, as well as in the movie In Memorium, which recently premiered at Tribeca, in which she co-stars with
Mark Marin. And from our breakdown to the one we hope you never have.
We'll see you next time.
It's Miami-Biolix breakdown.
She's going to break it down for you.
She's got a neuroscience PhD or two.
One fiction.
And now she's going to break down.
It's a breakdown.
She's going to break it down.
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