Media Storm - News Watch: LA protests, Gaza Freedom Flotilla, and all sides of assisted dying
Episode Date: June 12, 2025It's time for another News Watch, helping you get your head around the headlines. Locals face-off law enforcement in LA, as Trump sends the military to flatten (or fan up) protests. Meanwhile, Weste...rn media are dodging terms like ‘authoritarian’ better than their reporters are dodging police bullets. Assisted dying is back in the headlines as legalisation goes through UK and France’s parliaments. Disabled people and terminally ill people are often pitched on opposite sides of the debate: how do we elevate both communities’ voices, without pitting minorities against each other? Freedom Flotilla or "selfie yacht"? Humanitarian aid or vanity stunt? Whatever you think of Greta Thunberg and the Madleen crew, it doesn’t change the fact that Gaza is under siege. If the media’s so sick of Greta’s selfies, perhaps they could cover the story behind the ‘stunt’? ALSO: tune in to hear about Helena’s smear test and the show’s working titles before it became ‘Media Storm’... Buy Rachel Charlton-Dailey's book, Ramping Up Rights. The episode is hosted and produced by Mathilda Mallinson (@mathildamall) and Helena Wadia (@helenawadia) The music is by @soundofsamfire Support us on Patreon! Follow us on Instagram, Bluesky, and TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Helenette, tell me about your smear test.
No.
I just have the show agenda in front of me and it says,
begin with HW, smear test story.
Okay, hit me.
You know how I will take every opportunity to promote media storm?
And try and get us new listeners.
I just know where this is going.
So, I went to have my smear test recently.
Very important, by the way, everybody, if you get your letter, please go to your cervical screening.
I don't know if, like, this is a thing.
It's sort of like sometimes when you get blood tests when they chat to you because they think that you might be nervous or whatever.
She was like, so, I had a busy day.
And I was like, yeah, yeah.
And she was like, oh, what do you do?
I was like, oh, I'm a journalist.
And at this point, you know, she's lubing up the spectrum, okay?
and she was like
she was like oh
oh that's really interesting
so do you write for lots of different
people and I was like oh I don't really write
I do podcasting
at this point my cervix is
fully open and she's like
oh so what's your podcast called
and I'm like
yeah no it's called Media Storm
and it's really important actually
because it's elevating the voices
missing from the news media
she's like rattling around in there
and she's like
like oh that sounds very interesting very important i'm going yeah yeah i think it is just uh in today's
media climate it's particularly important and i'm just like chatting about media storm so thank you
nurse becky thank you nurse becky do you know what would have been even better was if we had actually
named media storm one of the name suggestions that we were given oh my god is it time to tell this
It's not like you trying to tell the story.
So the context being that when we were naming Media Storm, the podcast platform that we were on wanted to make it like a little bit more diverse?
Yeah, look, when we were launching Media Storm, there was a bit of excitement within some of the podcast world that we were two female journalists, young female investigative journalists.
And they really sort of wanted that to be the USP in the name.
Yeah.
So they were just, you know, throwing ideas around, you know, could it be like...
She investigates.
Yeah.
And then they were like, oh, I've got it, I've got it.
It's like, it's like the insider, but instead of the insider, it's the inside her.
And I was like, I think that, that might be a little bit rapy.
Imagine if, like, I was getting my smear test and I was like, yeah, my, my,
podcast, it's called The Insider.
Oh my God.
I actually wish we had named it that just for the sake of this story.
Oh my God.
This plan to find out really landed.
Something else made us really laugh this week.
Helen sent me an article in the Daily Mail.
It was about some rock-solid figures that showed almost one million people in Britain cannot speak English.
That was Tilda doing the capitalisation of the headline in case.
Anybody missed that?
Yeah.
But get this.
The first line of the article said
almost one million people in England
cannot English well or at all new figures have shown.
Like the irony is too good.
Don't throw stones from glass houses, daily mail.
Incredible.
And finally, before we kick off News Watch,
next week is Refugee Week.
And we'll be doing an episode on this theme,
so stay tuned for that.
But also, we will both.
be at the Club and Grand on Thursday evening for a special comedy gig, which is called Stand Up for Refugees.
The gig is organised by the wonderful Milo Edwards, who was our live show guests last month.
And every penny raised from ticket sales will support refugee action, which is a charity who work in welcoming and supporting refugees and campaigning for their rights.
So come along.
There's amazing comedians performing, Olga Koch, Kiri Pritchard McLean, Sikisa,
I can think of another one.
Rejeev Karia.
Don't know who that is.
Rejeev Karia.
I've never heard of him, but, you know, definitely not like married him or anything.
Definitely.
That's Thursday, 19th of June, at the Clapham Grand, tickets available via Dice.
Now on with News Watch.
What are we covering?
We'll cover the clashes between protesters and police in L.A.
Then, as the assisted dying bill comes back into Parliament,
we'll look at how we can centre the marginalised groups with the highest stakes and the lowest say.
And will end with eyes on Palestine, the Freedom Flotilla, or so-called selfie yacht,
and what the media was too busy bashing Greta Thunberg to report.
No fear! No hay! No life! Did not let's come after me, arrest me. Let's just get it over with.
Tough guy.
If you see this video, we have been intercepted and kidnapped in international waters.
The ship of fools, as I call it, TikTok yachts.
People would be wrong to seek an assisted death if the law is changed.
Frankly, it gives me the shivers.
Welcome to Media Storms News Watch helping you get your head round the headlines.
I'm Helena Wadia and I'm Matilda Mallinson.
This week's media storms, L.A. protests, Gaza Freedom Flitilla
and solidarity across sides in the assisted dying debate.
What is going on in L.A.?
What is going on in L.A.?
So many things.
The Trump administration ordered a wave of immigration raids.
These are carried out by immigration and customs enforcement officers or ICE officers.
Trump is on a mass deportation campaign, an aggressive and inhumane push to raise arrest and deportation numbers.
We're talking about arrests of over 2,000 people a day with these treacherous aims to scale up to 3,000 arrests a day.
Miller setting a new quota of 3,000 arrests per day to include more than just migrant.
with criminal records.
Miller reportedly asked ICE officials,
hey, why aren't you at Home Depot?
The narrative coming out of it is almost like a game.
There's massive pressure, basically,
to deliver optics of a crackdown.
Exactly.
The recent raids have affected garment,
district workers, day laborers,
restaurant workers,
and agents also arrested
the president of a major California union
who was serving as a community observer
during the raids.
The raids were also carried out
in areas of the city
with prominent Latino populations.
Some people who were arrested in the raids
have already been deported.
The Trump administration has not released a deportation count
because the White House kind of stopped publishing this figure,
but there is evidence that some of these deportations have already happened.
These raids mark a turning point.
The focus has changed from detaining and deporting migrants
with actual or alleged criminal histories,
to a broader deportation sweep of people who do not possess US citizenship.
People from across L.A. took to the streets on Friday
to demonstrate against the series of brutal crackdowns.
And we're recording on Wednesday.
It's still ongoing.
How did Donald Trump respond to these protests?
Well, he deployed 2,000 National Guard troops to the city on Friday.
And then on Monday, he ordered another 2,000 troops and 700 Marines to deploy to the city as well.
To be clear, those are military bodies deployed to a protest.
And this is unprecedented.
The National Guard is usually deployed by order of the state governor, in this case California's governor, Gavin Newsom.
But Trump just circumvented this step by invoking a rarely used federal law,
arguing that the protests constituted a form of rebellious.
against the authority of the government in the United States.
What you're witnessing in California is a full-blown assault on peace, on public order,
and a national sovereignty carried out by rioters bearing foreign flags
with the aim of continuing a foreign invasion of our country.
We're not going to let that happen.
To put this in context, this is the first time the National Guard has been activated
without request of the state's governor since 1965.
This is a real sign of authoritarianism.
Gavin Newsom, California State Governor,
accused Trump of manufacturing chaos and violence,
also of an illegal act that was putting fuel on this fire.
This isn't just about protests here in Los Angeles.
When Donald Trump sought blanket authority to commandeer the National Guard,
he made that order apply to every state in this nation.
Other states are next.
Democracy is next.
Democracy is under assault before our eyes.
This moment we have feared has arrived.
Trump then called for the arrest of Gavin Newsom
in what has basically become an absurd political pantomime.
And let's be clear, political campaigning
built on what is, and we have to remember,
a deeply personal upsetting and existential crisis
for millions of people in America.
Yeah.
But what has been a widely reported narrative,
Trump described the protesters as violent insurrectionists
hell-bent on destroying the city.
Generations of army heroes did not shed their blood on distant shores
only to watch our country be destroyed by invasion and third world lawlessness.
This is such a sinister narrative and also incredibly ironic,
given the events of January 6th, 2021.
But let's be clear, okay,
it was Trump, not the protesters
who escalated the situation in Los Angeles.
It was peaceful until just a few minutes ago.
Police have come out and started doing this.
Trump's sitting there claiming he saved L.A.
from being completely obliterated.
By its own residence.
But it was only on Sunday
after the National Guard troops were deployed
that the L.A. police chief observed,
that the protests were getting increasingly worse and more violent.
Because bear in mind, these protests were largely peaceful.
Peaceful protest.
They chant that, you know, peaceful protest again and again and again.
These demonstrators peacefully making their point, those raids must stop.
There wasn't a real crisis in L.A. until Trump intervened.
But isn't that exactly what he wants?
And I want to make an observation here because you always see
when legitimate protests become violent.
writing, you always see the excuse or the explanation given that, oh, there were extremists
piggybacking on this or people trying to sabotage it.
You know, at the US capital riots, for example, people who defended those who were
imprisoned for the riots, they were saying they didn't trigger the violence.
The violence was triggered by Antifa, extremist left undercover, who rolled things up.
You saw this with the racist summer riots in the UK last year, you know, accusations that
there were anti-racist violent mobs.
And while there always are in protests, small fringes, radical movements, and to be clear, violent disorder is not the same as legitimate protest, that is a distraction that is not the main story and that is not the same as when the antagonists, the violent antagonists are state agents, law enforcement, military.
And I want to point out that if this were Turkey or China, where the military was deployed to a protest, the media would have no hesitation using terms like authoritarian,
anti-democratic, state violence, but it's the US.
With the cost of their deployment more than 100 million pounds,
the question once again is whether the presence of Federalised National Guard
and 700 active U.S. Marines is necessary on the streets of L.A.
And ultimately, that's a really interesting point
because these have been labelled as L.A. protests in the media,
but is the focus on the wrong side?
Like, surely the focus should be on the people who are attacking,
the citizens of L.A.
Right, because the protests are sort of a defensive front
that the community has built to keep ice out of their community.
Exactly, exactly.
I just felt like protest wasn't, like, quite the right word.
And I want to draw attention to an interview on LBC with Zoe Gardner,
who does policy, research and campaigns, often around refugee rights,
and who is also part of the Stop Trump Coalition group here in the UK.
Just take a listen to this line of questioning.
this live on LBC News. What do you make of what's happening, is that we're
seeing out of Los Angeles, this level of extreme violence perpetrated by the state and by
immigration enforcement officers. It's the inevitable outcome of a program of violent, so-called
mass deportations. It is normal. It is completely right that local people, Angelinos, are standing up to that
filming what the authorities are doing and the violence that they are perpetrating.
I mean, you could also say that the protesters are just stopping the law enforcement agents,
ICE agents, as they're known in the States from carrying out their law for work.
When you watch these videos, you see parents screaming about, you know,
my children are in school, who's going to go and pick them up?
And they're being dragged away by force and packed into the back of vans.
There is no justification that that is some kind of legitimate exercise
of state power and state force.
That is a fascist imagery.
Finally, Zoe, would you accept that in the end
in this kind of situation,
the authorities have to win?
Because what's the alternative?
People can do whatever they want.
That's not at all the case.
The state is not always right.
What is right is to stand up for people's human rights
for the rule of law.
And Angelinos are doing that and they must win.
And it is the state that must retreat in this case
because the state is wrong.
Wild suggestion from the LBC presenter that in the end, the authorities have to win.
Because what is the alternative lawlessness?
You know, that, by the way, was exactly the excuse given by Nazi enablers and Nazi collaborators at the Nuremberg trials.
I mean, this was literally a promotion of authoritarianism on mainstream news.
And sorry, isn't your job, or at least part of your job, as a media organization to hold power to account?
Yeah, why do we exist, actually?
Because ultimately, like, if the state doesn't have its way,
then there's just going to be anarchy.
Why else is this a media storm story?
Well, I particularly want to talk about an attack on the press.
No, sorry, multiple literal attacks on the press.
So over the last few days, a CNN crew, including CNN reporter Jason Carroll,
were removed by police from a protest zone in downtown L.A.
with their hands behind their backs.
Two security personnel working with a CNN crew
were also briefly detained.
An L.A. Daily News reporter, Rianne Mena,
was shot by Homeland Security agents with pepper balls.
Independent journalist Anthony Cabasso
was hit in the face with a chemical munition.
What?
Freelance journalist Sean Beckner-Kar-Mitchell
was hit with a tear gas canister.
Good Morning Britain's North America correspondent,
Noel Phillips, was hit and injured in his arm.
Australian reporter Lauren Tamassi was hit in her legs live on air.
This situation has now rapidly deteriorated.
The LAPD moving in on horseback, firing rubber bullets at protesters.
A New York Post reporter was hit in the head.
Nick Stern, a British news photographer, was hit in the thigh.
I'll read you a couple of headlines from the BBC.
British photographer hit by non-lethal bullet in L.A.
British photographer injured by plastic bullet in L.A. protests.
Firstly, it's the passive voice here that I have an issue with.
Like, they were hit by a non-lethal bullet in L.A.
By who?
It's just this bullet.
It's just rogue bullets flying around.
God damn, plastic bullets flying around everywhere.
He was hit by the police or he was hit by a National Guard agent.
I mean, I don't know because you didn't tell me.
Right.
Yeah.
Rubber bullet, non-lethal bullet.
I get why you include that in the headline.
because it's non-lethal,
and if you say that he was shot by the police,
there's quite a distinction there if it is lethal.
However, it was not harmless, right?
No, these are not harmless.
In the case of Nick Stern,
he had to have emergency surgery
to remove the bullet from his leg.
He lost a considerable amount of blood.
That is not conveyed by that headline.
That should be the headline.
These weapons, carried by ICE and LAPD,
are dangerous, and they can be lethal.
And by the way, another thing that should be a headline
is that this is a crime.
This is a crime.
The cops are committing criminal offences,
a lot of them on camera.
All press have explicit legal protections in California.
So update your headlines accordingly to reflect that
that any member of the press being deliberately targeted is illegal.
These people are standing there with press vests.
They're marked microphones.
We have such double standards for.
authorities to which we are aligned when they commit authoritarian offences or international law
offences compared to states that are not our allies. It's honestly, the geopolitical bias is like
the most persistent in media. Israel can target journalists. America can target journalists.
God forbid Turkey as a recent example, doing the same thing. Can I end on something positive?
Please. I think it's kind of amazing to see
the people of L.A. turning up to defend their community.
They have such community spirit and they are defending the diversity of their city.
It's nice to know that people care about their immigrant neighbours.
They don't see these people as strangers.
They see them as their neighbours and thriving parts of the community that are worth defending.
The footage of their solidarity is really, really moving.
And for anyone who was in L.A. or across America, who is standing up,
against this state violence, we see you, and thank you for what you're doing.
Assisted dying is in our new cycle these days.
It's coming and going every few months due to legislation progressing uneasily through Parliament.
Next Friday, UK MPs will vote for the final time on the terminally ill adults or end-of-life bill,
which would allow terminally ill patients with six months to live or less to end their lives with medical assistance.
A separate but similar bill in Scotland is at a.
its second stage, also seeking to allow terminally ill adults to access medical assistance to
end their own lives.
When we covered assisted dying on Media Storm before, I was very surprised to learn that the UK
is actually quite unusual for its policies on assisted dying compared to most of the Western
world.
It not only bans all kinds of medically assisted dying, but has some of the harshest penalties
in place for what the law deems assisted suicide up to 14 years, was it?
14 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Austria, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland,
Spain, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Colombia and quite a few American states.
They all have legalisation of medically assisted dying with varying regulations and restrictions.
France, just last week, voted with an overwhelming majority to legalise assisted dying,
progressing their bill closer to law.
So yeah, the UK is a bit of a little.
an outlier culturally and something that we have remarked on about the coverage is that
despite the bill literally being called the terminally ill adults bill, you haven't had very
much from terminally ill adults themselves. So to start this segment, I therefore want to play
listeners one of our interviews with a terminally ill adult. This is Kitt speaking a few months
before she died from breast cancer about why she spent her final months fighting
for legal reform.
I want to fall asleep in my husband's arms and not wake up.
I don't want to die lying on a hospital bed.
I don't want to die drugged out of my head, not really knowing what's going on.
I don't want to be in a situation where my husband is terrified to go to the toilet in case I stop breathing.
I want the ability to just say goodbye.
to the people that I love and then just cuddle up and go to sleep.
The fact is, that's not allowed under our current system.
I like to delude myself that I've got more rights than a dog in this country.
If a dog was left to die of cancer, you give that dog a cuddle and let the vet give it an injection.
I've been on a hospital ward. I actually lost my voice because I couldn't stop
screaming from the amount of pain that I was in. I don't fully understand why so many people
would faint from horror at the thought of hearing a dog screaming in agony, but have no real
issue with the idea of a human doing that. Kit, if you were speaking to someone who opposed your
right to an assisted death, what would you say? When people say, you can't have an assisted
death that goes against our system of beliefs, many of them would say that I'm just suicidal,
that I don't want to live. The reality is, I'm so desperate to live that I sit there with
a port in my chest, having poison pumped into a vein right next to my heart, in the desperate
hope that it will buy me an extra few months of decent living. I live my life to the full. Even this year,
I went to Wembley and I saw the lionesses win the European Championships.
For me, the difference is between living and existing.
If we don't own ourselves, then are we any better than slaves?
There's a poem that I absolutely love called Invictus.
I am the master of my fate.
I am the captain of my soul.
Who wouldn't want that?
Why shouldn't people have that?
I think it's going to be one of the defining battles of the 21st century.
The sort of final clashes, so to speak, between the idea that the state or a church or another body can control you
or the idea that you've got individual liberty and freedom.
Oh, I sound like an American.
That was Kit, whose words outlive her.
Terminally ill adults and their loved ones are not the...
only point of view, and we will get into another vital missing voice in the reporting.
But first, I have a media storm criticism about the sidelining of these absolutely core
perspectives in the media's never-ending search for both sidesism.
And remembering that the UK population is overwhelmingly in favour of reforming the law,
my media storm radar was pinging at a persistent narrative coming through the media
that the legalisation movement is losing support.
Now one obvious example is this article from the sun,
titled MP's backing assisted dying
abraced for legislation to collapse
amid fury over the handling of the bill.
Look, there is a need for stories
raising legitimate questions about this bill,
but this headline smells to me like storymaking
rather than storytelling.
Okay, explain.
The article gives no evidence to support the headline,
right, the headline that MPs are braced for this bill to collapse.
The entire exclusive, as it's peddled,
appears to hang on just one source,
who's not even identified as an MP,
just described to us as an anonymous insider
who told the reporter,
some MPs who voted for the bill only did so
because they wanted it to have a fair hearing,
not because they actually back it.
And then the final line reads,
sources behind the bill said they had not picked up any significant
loss of support. Yeah, sorry. This story sounds like it's just trying to write reality rather
than reflect it. It's something the media does a lot. Historically, the sun is pretty
infamous for doing this during election periods. And you know what? It's something that often
works. So look out for it. It does. It does often work. And so to me, this article is very
disingenuous. Like, please report on the issues in the bill. The safeguarding concerns
detail for me where the holes are if people are saying there are holes. But this barely
touches that. An article based on one person saying, they're losing the fight, sounds to me more
like trying to sabotage the fight than to explain the fight to me. One other example, a BBC news
alert I got, which said, four against undecided. Three GPs give their view on assisted dying.
That is so BBC. Four against undecided. We are impartial. That's the BBC in three words.
or against undecided.
Like, it's pathological.
So the BBC conducted research
showing GPs in England
were deeply divided.
This is actually decent research
and it's much more worthwhile reporting
than the sun piece, I will say.
But it's limited in scope
and it's unaware of its limits
or at least it does not disclose its limits.
So the British Medical Association,
which spans doctors of all specialties,
not just GPs,
has found over multiple surveys,
that a significantly higher share of doctors in the UK support a law change on assisted dying,
about twice as many.
This actually underpinned the BMA formally shifting their position
from being against legalisation to being neutral today.
The BMA research also makes clear that while some specialties are more supportive of legalisation
like intensive care doctors and aesthetic doctors,
the most oppositional branch of doctors are GPs,
and that is the only group that the BBC survey covers.
In other words, the BBC surveyed the most opposed medical subspecialty
and completely failed to mention this selective bias
or to contextualise it within the overall medical opinion.
And then they published multiple news alerts.
I got two in the space of a couple of hours
about how medical opinion is deeply divided over plans to legalise assisted dying.
That is very important media analysis that needs to be done.
So thank you, Matilda.
However, there is another side to this story that I do feel like deserves some space.
And that is the voices of disability campaigners who have very serious fears about how this legislation could endanger them.
When we first started covering assisted dying on media storm and when assisted dying came more into the news media.
daily. At first, I was quite dismissive of disability voices on this topic because I felt like
they were in opposition to terminally ill adults who this affected the most. And I thought,
yeah, but there'll be rigorous legislation if a sister dying is made legal and therefore
disabled people will be protected and it won't affect them. But then when I really sat down
and thought about it more recently, I thought, actually, you know what? I understand. I
understand those fears so much more.
And that's because if you look at the way the government, the state,
treats the most vulnerable people in society, immigrants, refugees, transgender people.
What is to stop them treating another minority group disabled people badly?
What is to stop them changing legislation nefariously to harm these people?
If we don't trust the government to treat refugees well and transgender people,
the most marginalized groups, why would we trust them to treat disabled people well?
Yeah.
It's a really, really good point.
And I'm really glad and I'm really grateful that you, like, came to me and expressed your concerns
with us excluding those voices.
And so before recording this episode, you and I, Helena and I, had a lot of back and forth
about how to go about it because you felt disabled people needed more platforming.
Yeah.
But you didn't think we could do an episode on terminally ill adults without speaking to terminally ill adults.
Right. So we thought about having a two-way discussion and we floated the idea with some of our trusted community guides.
But they were wary of something they've experienced and or seen other media outlets do.
Which is to pit these two marginalised groups against each other when they're essentially both being failed by the same systems.
and when pitting marginalised groups against each other
is something authorities do so much of so well,
it ultimately protects them from accountability and change.
So after talking it through with her,
we recorded a separate interview with Rachel Charton Daily,
disability writer, freelance journalist, author and activist
about what the public needs to hear
before making up our minds individually
about this bill and legalisation.
In a perfect world, I think,
everybody should have the right to die. The issue is that people who have got terminal illnesses
having the right to die is often a slippery slope so that disabled people are caught in the
crosshairs and disabled people who have insecure housing, insecure benefits are being made to feel
like if you can't contribute to society, you don't deserve to have a space in society. The worry is
coercion. What is stopping somebody who is already told that they are a burden on society and
has been made to feel so downtrodden that they've got no other option,
then going to a doctor and going, I want to kill myself
because my life is not worth living anymore.
I suppose with the legislation that we're looking at in the UK and in Scotland,
there is a strict terminal illness requirement.
So the bill would only allow people who have hard proof
from multiple medical signatories that they are at a advanced progressive stage
of an illness that is, you know, that is killing them.
those protections, not enough.
Well, no, because it could easily be expanded from six months to a year, two years.
What's stopping it from being expanded for people who've got lifelong conditions, you know?
The thing with the slippery slope argument is that you could apply that to any debate, right?
But we draw lines all the time in every single policy area.
You could say that legalising abortion at X number of weeks is a slippery slope to just killing advanced
stage fetuses. I don't know that we can make legislation on the basis of the slippery slope argument
because then we would never make legislation. It's not just that it's a slippery slope, you know,
it's the fact that this legislation has got so many holes in it. There's not going to be mandatory
training to spot coercion. There's not going to be a requirement that the people who administer
the lethal injection, that they have any training in palliative care or psychiatry. Like for all they say
there's going to be safeguards. They've not really identified.
identified what the safeguards are. And we see this a lot in politics. You know, we're seeing it in a lot with
the benefit stuff. There'll be support there for people who need it, but we're not being told
what the support is. And it's exactly the same in this case. It sounds like you just don't have
trust in the authorities to protect people who need protecting. Is that right? It just,
it sounds like there's just no trust. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, if there'd been a meaningful
consultation, and if they'd allowed disabled people to be involved in this, then I would have
had more trust. It's, you know, it's not disabled people versus people who are dying because
at the end of the day, disabled people could become terminally ill people. And for all intents as
purposes, terminally ill people are part of the disabled community. And we are all being let down
by the state. Terminally ill people, as much as disabled people, are being let down. They're being
let down by care, they're being let down by palliative care, they're being let down by the NHS
more than anything, because the NHS has been so broken. And this should be what a Labour government
are pledging to fix. Can we talk now about the media coverage and any issues you've had with how
the mainstream media has reported on the topic? We're just ignored from the media. And it's only
been since people who aren't disabled have started speaking up for disabled people that the media
has started caring about it. It's only since MPs have started talking about it more that disabled
people's side of the story is actually getting out there. And it's been really interesting to watch
the papers that have the history of supporting the benefits cuts, like the telegraph, the telegraph
came out and was really against the sister dying. That was very bizarre to watch. I guess my sort of
like cynical reaction when I see that the telegraph is firmly against assisted dying is if I'm
thinking about the perspective of bodily autonomy and separation of church and state, then it doesn't
surprise me that the telegraph takes a stance they do. Yeah. It frustrates me to see the telegraph who
is so dismissive of disabled rights when it comes to a question of benefits in my view, pretending to care
about disabled people only when it serves their broader ideology.
That's been a case for, there are a couple of charities who are involved in the against side
and a lot of disabled people are really trying to distance themselves for it,
but it's things like the right to life charity is really, really heavily involved in it.
And the amount of people I've had to go, you can't be sharing their stuff because they're
massively anti-abortion.
And it does seem like they're really on our side
because they've shared a lot to do with disability rights
but there's also the fact that they don't want anybody
to have bodily autonomy, you know?
And there's also on the other side
where being, like people who don't want this
are being labelled as wanting to control bodies
and we're being labelled by certain members of the foresight
as being super religious and stuff like that
and it's like that's just not the case.
We just don't all want to be forced to die, you know?
this says so much about our politics today is that every question is being forced to fit into
this binary, you're in the left or you're in the right. For me, I find this a really tricky
question because I believe in bodily autonomy and I'm very disturbed by the testimonies
they've heard of people who want this right. But this is a really, really, really difficult
predicament. It's a really hard discussion. When this all first came around, I was initially on the
poroside until it was explained to me this could mean so much for disabled people and so much that
we could be forced into it there's no yes and no answer to it you know there's no black and white answer to
it because everybody should have the right to it they should everybody should have the right to do what
they want with their bodies do what they want with their lives but at the same time everybody
should have the right to a good life and that's what disabled people don't have at the moment
and until we can have the right to a good life how are we supposed to have the right to a good death
as Rachel Charlton Daly, who has a new book coming out in July. It's called Ramping Up Rights,
an unfinished history of British disability activism. And it's available for pre-order now. Link in
the show notes.
Like NCIS, Tony and Ziva.
We'd like to make up for own rules.
Tulsa King.
We want to take out the competition.
The substance.
This balance is not working.
And the naked gun.
That was awesome.
Now that's a mountain of entertainment.
Paramountow.
Time for Eyes on Palestine.
International media coverage of Gaza
this week has been focused on the Freedom Flotilla, the Madlean ship, carrying aid and activists
like Greta Thumburg to Gaza. It was intercepted by Israel on Monday, and its crew have been
detained with some already deported. My first remark is about the limited coverage of this
operation in the media last week before the interception by Israeli military on Monday.
Now, last week, when the flotilla set out, it appeared almost in no mainstream outlets.
Which is curious because this was trending on social media,
so it would have surely made good clickbait.
A quick overview of how many articles appeared last week.
Three in Sky News, two in The Guardian, eight in the Independent,
one on the BBC just hours before the interception.
The thing is at that point, the only story was about why the activists set sail,
which was to break a siege on Gaza that is starving its population.
The ship and Gaza a smattering of headlines last week.
But the Freedom Flotilla, by the way,
has continuously been trying to get aid into Gaza
with anonymous volunteers
and had no coverage,
even when last month,
one of their aid ships was bombed by Israel
in international waters off the coast of Malta.
I saw this on Instagram,
and I had to fact check it because I didn't see it in the news.
This happened.
If China, like, flies military planes over international waters,
it makes world news.
this wasn't mentioned.
And while our media didn't care about why the boat set sail last week
and indeed why celebrities were on it,
maybe to prevent it being bombed again,
they really ramped up reporting this week when there was drama
and when the story could be not about Gaza,
but about the drama on the ship itself.
Nailed it.
And can we talk about the nature of that coverage,
the nature of the drama,
my jaw actually dropped at some of the headlines.
I think probably one of the most shocking was LBC's.
Greta Thumburg Selfie Yacht stunt
brought to an end as boat is intercepted.
The phrase selfie yacht, by the way,
that came from the Israeli Foreign Ministry directly.
So nice work, LBC, parroting lines
directly from Israeli ministers
and throwing the phrase selfie yacht
into the mainstream, instead of highlighting the fact that this was a humanitarian aid ship.
And it's not just the headlines, it's the pictures.
Oh, I know exactly what you're referring to.
The picture that was splashed across a thousand front pages.
No, it wasn't of starving people in Gaza.
It wasn't of bomb-destructed land in Palestine.
It wasn't of the aid that the ship was carrying.
It was of Greta Thunberg being offered a sandwich and a bottle of water by an Israeli
army soldier. Apparently this picture, according to the Telegraph, is perfect because it exposes
the hollowness of lefty activism. That awkward moment when the Israel Defence Forces spoil your
Instagram story, writes Telegraph journalist Stephen Daisley. Oh wait a second, I wonder where he got that
line. Oh yes, once again from the Israeli foreign ministry who had said there are ways to deliver
aid to the Gaza Strip, they do not involve Instagram selfies.
Providing sandwiches on camera after spraying chemical substances on the ship and throwing
the flotilla members' phones off the side of a boat is the definition of a publicity stunt
of an Instagram story and of a selfie yacht. And by the way, it wasn't just the right wing
press. I know I mentioned their LBC and the Telegraph, but here's AP, associated
press, using an incredibly passive and parroting take once again.
A Gaza-bound aid boat carrying Greta Thunberg and other activists has been diverted to Israel,
Israeli's foreign ministry says.
Israel's foreign ministry says, yeah.
A diversion is an inconvenience when you're driving down the motorway and you've got to
get off.
Like, this was not a diversion.
This is a story about breaking international law.
And all of this talk about like so-called selfie yacht and Instagram stories.
Well, okay, one, a large part.
of the point of this flotilla was to raise awareness about Israel deliberately starving an entire
people. So, yeah, that is kind of the point of social media. But also, there's been five
flotillas before the Madeline. Israel used force against four of them. So it makes perfect
sense to me to document this journey to protect yourself and provide evidence in case you are
intercepted. And look, it's not that I don't get the question. Oh, is it a bit of a distraction? Is this
celebrity activism at its best? Or is it a bit of an Insta PR win? I say this because I have for a very
long time had a bit of an allergic reaction to like celebrity fronted humanitarian work or
Instagram curated humanitarian work. And this is due to celebrity visits to refugee camps I've
worked in and sort of witnessing the dark side of it. My instinct is that this is not that.
I'm actually quite sick of hearing people like Stephen Daisy in the telegraph calling this
hollow activism and a stunt. They have literally put themselves on a boat that has been bombed.
They are trying to be the shield to aid while also demonstrating what a siege looks like. So if you
want to call that a stunt, then please show me what the fuck you have done. Yeah. And also, some of us
might have the right to ask that question about hollowness or vanity when it comes to
humanitarian work. You do not have the right to ask that question and complain about
celebs being self-centered when you have done literally no reporting on the story other than that
focused on the celebs. Yes, it does take Greta Thunberg posting selfies for you to pay attention,
but that is on you. No one said it better. Then one of the people who's been working
hardest to capitalise on the boat story
to get the media actually talking about the suffering in Gaza.
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Reporter
for the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
She did 13 interviews in 11 hours
or 11 interviews in 13 hours.
Here's her losing her temper on talk TV
in an interview with Piers Morgan.
All I can say for sure is that this stunt
has done absolutely zero
to help any of the people in Gaza.
Zero. This is your opinion, Pierce, and it count zero.
We will agree to disagree. Thank you very much indeed for joining me. I appreciate it.
You don't want to talk with me about Gaza and the awful situation there and the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
So you just wanted to talk about what you think is a stunt.
You called me for that. So I'm international law expert, and you call me on your program to talk about Greta Thunberg.
If you wanted to talk about something else, talk about something else.
However, I won't bother you further. Thank you very much.
Bye-bye, Pierce.
Bye-bye.
I actually interviewed Albanese
about this interview with Pierce Morgan
on Middle East Eye.
Here's what she said.
It was the insult against a young lady
who's really doing
something that Pierce cannot even dream of doing,
something out of self-interest,
just out of justice and humanity,
getting out of the comfort zone
of his or her chair,
and being judged this way with this mimicking, is the misogyny, is the patriarchy, is this alpha male attitude?
I don't know, I get a bit frustrated about that.
It is the very media accusing Greta of making this all about her that are making it all about her.
It's the media that is too busy publishing their nasty opinions about Greta
to report on actual news about plausible genocide that are guilty of a very very bad.
Vanity Project.
These shows, calling it a stunt,
while their entire programming is stunt after stunt after stunt.
They are the reason it takes a stunt to make the media do its job.
Yes, that interview on Piers Morgan Show on Talk TV with Francesca Albanese is so interesting
because I think that it really clearly demonstrates that no matter if you are an international
law expert or if you're a war crime expert or if you're an activist,
you'll be treated as a brown blob there to be yelled at.
and interrupted while you try and advocate for Gaza.
However, also on this note, and I think our views slightly differ here,
I actually have quite little sympathy for people who go on Talk TV or GB News or anything
hosted by Piers Morgan because it's kind of like, one, what do you expect from that interview?
Like, what are you expecting when you go in there?
But more than that, I feel like when you appear on shows like that, you're legitimising these
hate spewing programs as news programs.
I feel differently, but I do see what you're saying
and I do agree like it does legitimize.
But the people watching these shows,
they don't question if it's legitimate or not.
They think it's legitimate.
And they're hard to reach through other outlets.
You might reach the people that you actually need to.
Yeah, I get that point too.
But listeners, if you have any opinions on this,
on going on shows like TV News, Talk TV,
email in and let us know.
Yeah.
Should we do it?
No.
Give me cool.
You can go.
Now just to end this episode,
the Freedom Flitilla's stated goal was spotlighting Gaza under siege.
Here's our little update of what was overlooked.
Israel's renewed assault on Gaza has entered its 87th day,
intensifying a 650-day military campaign
that has killed at least 55,000 people in the enclave.
That figure comes from Gaza's health.
Ministry, but is in line with UN reports, which revealed last month that over 300 members of
their own humanitarian staff had been killed in the attacks.
With Israel only allowing aid into Gaza in a trickle and via heavily militarised routes,
over 76,000 children are registered as malnourished.
The actual number is likely to be much higher.
Speaking of heavily militarised aid, over 200 starving Palestinians have been shot dead at
aid distribution sites managed by the U.S.-Israeli-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation,
a private organization where they have concentrated aid and taken it out of UN hands.
With the reality on the ground in Gaza intentionally being clouded by Israel from international
view, one attempt to draw focus is that of the freedom of litilla. The media only has
itself to blame for their persistent underreporting.
Thank you for listening.
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