Media Storm - News Watch: Post-Brexit trade deals, Gérard Depardieu convicted, Starmer's immigration speech
Episode Date: May 15, 2025LAST CHANCE TO GET YOUR LIVE SHOW TICKETS! Media Storm is back for SERIES 6! And we’re here to help you get your head around the headlines (however unhinged they are). But this week, we had a lit...tle identity crisis… should we be using the term ‘mainstream media’ when it’s become such a conspiracy buzzword? And if not, how do we point out all the mainstream media mishaps?! Let us know your thoughts... Stories we delve into this week include: Two post-Brexit trade deals got very different reactions in the UK media. Spoiler: we think race has something to do with it. We look at the UK-India trade deal, and the UK-US trade deal - and ask why one got too much scrutiny, and the other almost none at all. Next up, Gérard Depardieu was convicted for two counts of sexual assault. So why are much of the media labelling him as a 'legend' - and why is The Telegraph telling us 'all is not lost' for him? And we break down Keir Starmer’s now infamous immigration speech, likened by his own party members to Enoch Powell’s xenophobic ‘rivers of blood’. This is headline politics at its worst. As usual, we end with Eyes on Palestine. Follow the Committee to Protect Journalists here. Click here to complain to the BBC about their interview with Palantir. Read the report by Doctors of the World UK and Médecins Sans Frontières about Wethersfield. The episode is hosted and produced by Mathilda Mallinson (@mathildamall) and Helena Wadia (@helenawadia) The music is by @soundofsamfire Support us on Patreon! Follow us on Instagram, Bluesky, and TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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the term mainstream media, which we used.
use a lot at Media Storm. I think it's like literally in our show description. Okay, interesting.
Tell me why you want to bring this discussion up. I was actually in Germany and was chatting to
some listeners in Germany and they were like, is it, is it different in the UK or does the term
mainstream media have the same connotations that it has here in Germany? You know, sort of like
fake news conspiracy theorists trying to drag down the MSM mainstream media. And I was like,
yeah, no, to be honest, it does have the same connotations.
here. And then that got into this, we got into this discussion because then they were like,
well, you know, do you think you should be using that term because it's quite triggering for
people. It might turn people off your message because they might think that you're sort of
leaning into that conspiracy theory brand. Okay, yeah, I get that point. I really do. But my question
is like, what should we use instead? So yeah, in this discussion, I was asked, why don't you just say
media? You know, why don't you just say this is a problem in the media? I'm like, yes, we could
do that. But what that fails to communicate is that there is a power structure here. There is a
culture of gatekeeping. Exactly. There are establishments which dominate the narrative in our media
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which is legacy media, right? The legacy media. But I'm just like, you know what? If you're
you coined that term, then you are acknowledging that this establishment of the media,
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Okay, let's get into the first Muse Watch of series 6.
Here's what's coming up on today's show.
I'm going to start with the hypocritical reaction to a trade deal made with India.
And then I'm going to take on the Media Storm surrounding the UK-US trade deal.
That is an uncharacteristic amount of trade for Media Storm.
But don't worry, it's not just trade.
Then I'll be hopping across the channel to events in France
and the conviction of Gerard Depadieu.
Then, of course, I have a lot to say about Kier Starmes' immigration policies here in the UK.
And we'll end with eyes on Palestine.
We risk becoming an island of strangers.
Not a nation that walks forward together.
Literally taken a quote from the rivers of blood speech, which Enoch Powell delivered.
One of the most important trade deals in the history, both of the United States,
United States and the United Kingdom.
This deal is truly appalling.
And I think what you'll see is Stama's ratings on the polls plummet further.
Welcome to MediaStorms News Watch, helping you get your head around the headlines.
I'm Helena Wadia.
And I'm Matilda Malinson.
This week's Media Storms.
Trade deals, Gerard Depadieu convicted.
Stama goes all Enoch Powell.
Successive British governments have been talking up the economic
promise of a post-Brexit Britain for years, the promise of a UK that is free to strike
independent trade deals across the globe. What's a trade deal that's been on the table for years,
but has constantly been halted by slow and often difficult negotiations, a trade deal with
India? So this agreement was finalised last week after more than three years of negotiations
under successive governments. This government said that this landmark deal would add four point
8 billion pounds a year to the UK economy by 2040.
The idea of free trade deals with other countries,
especially India, has long been touted as one of the biggest prizes of Brexit.
So how do you think Nigel Farage, the man who really made Brexit happen
on the foundation of the promise of national sovereignty, reacted to this trade deal?
Thrill, happy, excited?
No, he accused Kirstama of betraying Britain.
Oh, wow, strong language.
Explain?
I was a bit confused too
until I remembered
that the other foundation
Farage built Brexit on
was racism and fear.
So here are some of the details
of the trade deal
that has been struck with India.
90% on tariffs on British goods
will be reduced or eliminated
over time with the biggest headline win
being on whiskey and gin.
British firms will now be able to compete
for Indian government contracts.
This was something that, you know,
people were saying,
oh, this unlocks really huge
new business opportunities for us.
There's a commitment to reduce
tariffs on 99% of Indian exports to Britain, including removing import duties on textiles,
which is a key industry for India. And under the new trade deal, Indian nationals temporarily
posted to the UK for work, will not have to pay national insurance, which are typically
about 8% of most employees' wages, for the first three years of their stay. Instead, they'll
continue paying the Indian equivalent of social security, and the same will apply to British workers
sent to India. So on paper this is a straightforward move to avoid double taxation, which is
something that trade experts and multinational firms are behind. But what was the narrative that
was put out by Farage and the Reform Party that Kirstama is betraying British workers in favour
of Indian workers who will pay no national insurance? It's too easy. A tweet from the
Reform Party said the result of this deal will be more mass immigration.
More pressure on the NHS and more pressure on housing.
Sorry, I'm speechless.
She's too stunned to speak.
But by the way, it wasn't just reform slash Farage that jumped on this.
Leader of the opposition, the Tories, Kemi Badnock, also went on the offensive,
describing the deal as unfair to British taxpayers.
And she called the deal, get ready, your favourite line, a system of two-tier taxes.
There it is.
There it is.
Anyway, is this even like a new thing, this concept of workers who are here on short-term
secondments, not having to pay national insurance for like the short period that they're here?
Not at all.
Not new.
And here is where the media played right into the right hands.
The media failed to report on the fact that this move to avoid double taxation is a standard tax agreement in trade deals.
And that the UK already has similar agreements with over 50 countries.
Like, that is crucial context.
In fact, it's so standard that it has a name.
It's called the Double Contributions Convention.
And India already has similar deals with a number of countries, including Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, France, etc.
Also, the national insurance exemption only applies to company transfers between two nations.
So that means that it doesn't apply to like Indian nationals applying for UK jobs.
It doesn't grant access to UK benefits.
It doesn't change immigration rules.
And this rule will only apply to a small number of workers.
And so it will cost the UK Treasury, like, relatively very, very little.
These papers have probably made more money from the clickbay
than it's going to cost the entire economy.
Literally.
And this is truly an example of the media reporting on made-up outrage.
And you know it's made-up outrage when even some right-wing commentators
have pointed out that Baynock and Farage are, like, talking out of their arses.
So Daniel Hadan, who is a member of the Conservative Party.
He's in the House of Lords.
He's written for the mail, the telegraph, the son.
So, like, by all intents and purposes, we can call this man on the right.
He even called out the hypocrisy.
He tweeted, it is sad to see people who are talking up an India free trade agreement
as a Brexit benefit, now attacking it because it was signed by Labour.
What happened to putting the national interest
first. I can respect that.
Yeah, I can also respect that. And he also posted an I-News article which countered
Faraj and Badnock's claims with fact. And he wrote, here's a balanced and factual summary
of the National Insurance Deal. You can agree or disagree, but the debate here bears absolutely
no relation to what has in fact been agreed. And it's so incredibly frustrating to witness
the media giving equal weight to both the deal and the false criticism of the deal. Like even
the Guardian reported on the criticisms from Farage and Badnock by saying the details of the deal
has caused a row. By naming it as a row rather than describing it as false outrage and then
presenting the facts, it's like legitimising that criticism and catapulting it into the mainstream.
And it's taking government time. It's making a policy priority out of something that is
just a distraction. Right. And by describing the double contributions convention as a compromise
that the UK's had to make in order to secure this deal
rather than a pretty standard tax agreement,
they're instantly portraying it in a negative light
and describing it as if it's something major
that the UK had to compromise on
and give up in order to secure this deal.
And really, like, it's just basic racism.
It's just basic xenophobia.
That's what it is.
Lots of people will believe
that UK workers are being betrayed by this deal.
What's going to happen?
racism towards Indian people or British Asians is only going to increase.
That was cheery.
Next up, another post-Brexit trade deal, this time with the US, which means that it's not
going to have the same sort of like racist backlash, I imagine that the India one did.
Let's find out.
Last week we were told that Stama had secured a landmark economic deal with Trump.
The left were pretty happy because success.
for Stalin, the success for labor. The right were pretty happy because it validated Brexit.
And so as a result, the reporting across the spectrum was pretty much entirely surface level.
But just before the deal was announced, there was a word of warning on Twitter by Carol Cadwalader,
the investigative journalist. She wrote, Dear UK media, please, please, do not cheerlead any deal
that involves the UK cowtowing to demands from US tech companies.
This is a potential disaster for Britain on multiple levels,
including and especially national security.
Despite this warning, much of the UK followed the line of the government's own press release
when reporting this deal.
Landmark economic deal with the United States saved thousands of jobs for British carmakers
and steel industry.
Yeah, the understanding of the deal based on the press is that, like,
Star and Trump have really pulled this out of the bag.
And it's the ultimate validation of Brexit.
Yeah.
A quick look at the front pages the day after.
The Times highlights the word historic, used by both Starma and Trump, to describe the agreement.
The Independent said the UK won the global race to shake off the worst Trump trade tariffs.
Both the Daily Mail and the Sun noted that Trump said the deal was only possible because of Brexit.
The Financial Times was a rare example that didn't echo government PR in its headlines and actually went into depth.
The thing is, there's actually.
very little detail about this deal that we know. It hasn't been finalised yet on paper.
So in lieu of actual information, Stama has been allowed to write his own headlines.
However, Carol Cadwalader, that investigative journalist I mentioned, she expressed deep concern
on her substack, which I can recommend, about the lack of detail, and in one area in particular,
tech. And this is because the UK's ambassador to the US, Lord Mandelson, announced very vaguely
that there was going to be some sort of exciting tech partnership.
So Carol Cudwalader wrote,
Why in Earth would the UK government want to get into any sort of relationship
with Silicon Valley companies right now?
Most have shown themselves to be intrinsically aligned with an in hock to an authoritarian president.
In meshing ourselves in any deeper relationship than we already have
is a profound threat to our national security and a future potential blackmail tool.
And also, I think some quite important context for listeners is that Carol
Cadwallader was the investigative reporter at The Guardian who broke the Facebook Cambridge
Analytica scandal. And this was about consultancy firm Cambridge Analytica and Facebook pairing
up to non-consensually sell the personal data of millions of users for targeted political
advertising. And it seemed to have played a major role in Trump's election in 2016.
Exactly. So she is pretty nervous about tech and political partnerships for good reason. And also
she has a point. Like, when else would we think it was?
a good idea to sign a tech partnership with a pretty authoritarian leader who not only
brags about putting his country first always, but has quite clearly bought, like, the country's
tech CEOs under his thumb. Yeah. Also, do we know anything at all about this tech agreement
with the US? No, not yet, not officially. But Carol Kudwildwleda has, like, joined the dots and
indicated that they all point to one tech company in particular. And this is a company called
Palantir. Okay, wait. Wait.
Why do I know that name?
Because Palantir is the data defense company
basically underpinning Trump's mass deportations.
No.
Okay.
Palantir is being paid a billion dollars by Trump
to build a database for ICE to track and deport migrants.
It was founded by Peter Thiel, who you might also have heard of.
I feel like you mentioned him on Media Storm once.
I did, yeah.
He's an old friend of Elon Musk.
They founded PayPal together.
He, like Elon Musk, also grew up in apartheid South Africa,
where he is reported to have had pretty pro-aparite views.
Now he's in the White House, helping Trump to mass deport migrants.
And guess who used to work for him as a corporate lobbyist for Palantir?
Who?
The UK's ambassador to the US, Lord Mandelson.
Oh, my God.
And he's the guy who announced this tech partnership.
And when Kirstarmer went to Washington in February to meet Trump,
he had just one other meeting with Palantir.
Oh my gosh.
And guess who set it up?
The ambassador?
Lord Mandelson.
So quick summary, Mandelson announced an exciting new tech partnership as part of the trade deal.
He used to work from Palantir.
He organized a meeting for them with Kirstama and they are the company getting rich off migrant surveillance and illegal deportations in the US.
In a nutshell.
Great.
So any mention of this in the mainstream media?
Nope.
I learned all of this from Carol Cadwleda's personal substack.
And in it, she denigrates the media's unquestioning coverage of the trade deal.
She said the only commentator worth reading was the coverage from Nobel Prize winning US economist Joseph Stiglitz,
who said in a sky interview that the deal is not worth the paper it's written in.
He said,
I wouldn't view it as a great achievement.
In fact, I would view it as a great achievement.
as playing into Trump's strategy.
His strategy is divide and conquer,
go after the weakest countries,
and, you know, sort of put the stronger countries in the back.
And so after Brexit, I guess we are one of those weak countries, divide and conquer.
And to top it all off, the BBC's Laura Kunsberg actually featured the head of UK Palantir
on its Sunday morning show discussing the trade deal.
But he was not there as like the head of Palantir
to answer questions about Palanty's involvement in the deal.
He was just there as like a legitimate political commentator
to give his opinion on the deal.
Oh my gosh.
This is a company that is literally lobbying
for UK government business
that is involved in deportations
that US courts have deemed illegal.
And Kunzberg, the BBC journalist,
she even knew that this guy,
the head of UK Palantir,
was in the White House during the trade talks.
This is actually super controversial.
Yeah.
But she doesn't point it out as controversial.
She just sort of throws it in as an anecdote to bulk up his authority as her guest speaker
before then asking his opinion of the deal.
Oh, and let me guess what his opinion of the deal is, that it's really great.
It's really great.
But it doesn't quite go far enough in tech.
It needs more tech partnership.
Oh, what a surprise.
Listen to the clip.
But you were actually there, I understand, with the Trump Starmer big first talks in February.
You were there in D.C. in the White House, I think.
Are you worried in the way that Joseph is about what Trump's doing and the impact on the economy?
Well, I think the trade deal that was signed this week was a good first step, but it does only cover most industrial goods.
And that is far from being the majority of our combined US, UK economies.
So I think there's a lot more still to go.
One thing that I found very promising was in the Oval Office itself, you'll have seen Trump and Lord Mandelson, the British ambassador, talking about the next phase, about a tech partnership.
And I think tech and science is where it now needs to go.
And people, if they don't know, Palantir is a huge company in the US.
You've got lots of contracts with the White House and your founder of Peter Thiel.
I think it's got a lot of relationship with Donald Trump.
And did you notice there how Kunsberg describes the company that he works at, Palantir?
What I noticed was that there was no mention of ICE or mass deportation.
As journalism, this is so insufficient.
The thing is, most of the coverage has been like this.
When we're flattered, it's so easy.
easy to have the world pulled over our eyes. And there's a risk that that's what's happening here
by Trump, but also by our own leaders. And for anyone who takes issue with the appearance of
that Palantir chief on the BBC in that capacity, there's a link in the show notes where you can
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Gerard Defadieu. French movie legend.
A larger-than-life hero.
Legendary.
A French icon.
France's greatest modern actor.
Now, tell me why you think Gerard Depadieu has made headlines this week based on those words.
Did he die?
These are his, like, obituary, an homage to this great long-gone actor.
No, he's been convicted of two counts of sexual assault.
Oh.
Now, of course, as we know, allegations of sexual assault ruin men's lives.
So obviously Gerard Depioux is going to prison.
Yes, right?
No, he got handed an 18-month suspended sentence,
which means that he avoids prison time.
Wait, what was he convicted for?
Two counts of sexual assault.
Yes.
We know how difficult it is to even get a conviction for sexual assault
and then you get that far.
And there still might not even be justice.
And get this.
Depardieu was not even at the court in Paris to hear his guilty verdict.
He was almost 1,600 miles away in one of the Portuguese Azor Islands, filming a movie.
Is this allowed for everyone or is it just fucking movie stars?
To give listeners context, Depoji was found guilty of sexually assaulting two women on a film set.
He was convicted of groping a 54-year-old set dresser and a 34-year-old assistant director in 2021.
In the case of the set dresser, he did this in front of people, in front of other crew members.
and these witnesses are probably a large reason why they've managed to secure a conviction in this case.
But that's not it.
More than 20 women have accused Depodieu of misconduct, either publicly or by using formal complaints,
although none of those have gone to court.
Some of the cases were dropped because of lack of evidence, other after the statute of limitations had expired.
And by the way, at the time that these assaults, which he's now been found guilty for, took place,
deputu was already under formal investigation for rape.
In 2018, actor Charlotte Arnold accused him of raping her at his home.
And that case is still active and in August 24, prosecutors requested it go to trial.
But back to this case, he's been given a suspended sentence and he was fined just over €29,000, which, to be fair, is unlikely to bother him, given how rich he is.
Question? Can I ask him a question?
Yeah.
This is a civil case or a criminal case?
Criminal.
Sorry, I just like, I feel like I'm quite well briefed in the insufficiencies of the justice system for cases of rape and sexual assault.
I didn't think I could be surprised.
Well, here you go.
But what makes this a media storm story, though, and not just another case of unjust gendered violence,
is the ways in which the media has played right into the hands of a man who already thinks he's underage.
Now, before I go into the media coverage, I do want to say this.
Like, I understand it is important to contextualise.
So it is relevant that Depodieu is a famous, powerful, well-known actor.
But it is possible to contextualise this briefly and not focus your entire freaking article
on the legend that is Gerard Depadieu.
An example of relevant contextualising is given here in The Independent, I'd say.
They write, Depodieu is a giant.
in French cinema, having starred in more than 250 films,
he received an Oscar nomination in 1991 for his performance
as the swordsman and poet Serrano de Bergerac.
So even if I'd never heard of this man,
I'd understand from that line the level of his notoriety.
It's factual, but it's not emotive.
Exactly. And after this line, there's no mention of his career.
So well done to The Independent.
Not so well done to the Daily Mail,
whose headline is
French movie legend
Gerard Depadieu is found guilty
of sexual assault on 2021 film set
and especially not so well done
to The Telegraph
whose headline is
The Sordid Fall of Sacred Monster
Gerard Depadieu
with the sub
the man who seduced France
with his debauchery
once seemed untouchable
but a sexual assault conviction
will test the limits of his charm
It's sort of like glamorizing his grossness.
Oh, just strap in, Matilda, just strap in.
Because it is this Telegraph article that I really want to go into because, and I do not say this lightly, fucking hell.
Okay.
This Telegraph article is essentially a deep dive into Depp Ordu's life, which already I'm like, why do we need this?
What is the point of this?
The Telegraph article paints Depeju using words like provocative and controversial.
It repeatedly lends paragraphs upon paragraphs to his successes and awards.
It directly quotes him several times, quotes that give the air of defence for his actions.
An example of a deputue quote they print is,
All my life I've been provocative, over the top, sometimes offensive.
I often did what nobody else dared, tested limits, upended convictions and habits,
and onset in between takes, in between tensions, laughed and made others love.
Yeah, I don't think groping and intimidating women on set is a laugh, but cool.
Then it gets more unhinged.
The Telegraph writes,
The only thing he seemed to have a bigger appetite for than food and drink was women.
Then they give two Departu quotes about women.
One, I don't run after pretty little things anymore.
They run after me.
The second, my eye will roam with equal pleasure over the face of a beautiful woman,
as it will, over the cuts of meat displayed.
in a butcher's shop window.
The Telegraph quotes these lines about women
without commenting on the fact that they're really fucking offensive.
And spoken by a sexual assailant.
Exactly, exactly.
Then we get onto more defence of Depadieu.
Deppardieu's upbringing was tumultuous.
His family was so poor.
He left school at 13.
There are over a thousand words of this article
before we get into the trial.
Oh my goodness.
Another quote that filled me with rage is...
Overflowing with rage.
Too much rage for such a small person.
Was this one.
During his trial, Departy said that he's been unable to work for three years
because the allegations cast such a pall over him.
But then later in the article, it literally says that he's filming a movie right now.
And now, to wrap it up, will reach the final moment of unhingedness.
You thought it couldn't get worse, but it does.
The hinges have gone.
The hinges are off the doors.
There are two quotes that are direct defences of Depadieu
from older female French actresses
who have already voiced their support for Depadieu over the years
and who have already voiced their disdain for the Me Too movement in France.
One of them is from Brigitte Bardot.
She says,
people with talent who grab a girl's buttocks are thrown into the board.
bottom of the ditch. We could at least let them carry on living. They can't live anymore.
He didn't even have to attend his trial. He didn't attend his trial. He's in Portugal or
something filming and I would call that living. While that quote is frustrating, what I'm actually
more annoyed about is the fact that the quote was included rather than the quote itself because
it's not necessary to quote her. You know, he's guilty. You don't have to defend him. And did they
quote one of the women accusing him.
Do they quote any survivor of assault?
No.
And I mentioned there were two quotes from older French actresses.
The article actually ends on a quote from Fanny Ardent, who is a 76-year-old actress and
director who's friends with Depadieu and appeared as a character witness to Depadieu in
the trial.
Okay.
She says every form of genius has something extravagant, unyielding, dangerous about it.
Everyone can identify with the roles Gerard offered.
them, no one can identify with Monsieur Perfect.
The fact that it ends, this article ends, on a sympathetic quote.
It's pointed.
It's so pointed.
But there is one line that I have not yet said.
And this was the most unhinged line of all in the Telegraph article.
Because this was not a quote.
This is something written directly by the Telegraph.
Despite all his woes, all is not lost for Depadieu.
Oh, thank God.
The 18-month prison term handed down is only a suspended sentence,
while the 29,000 euro fine will not make much of a dent
to a fortune that's estimated to run well into nine figures.
All is not lost.
Can you imagine writing all is not lost
about a man who has been convicted of two sexual assaults
and has 20 plus allegations?
Can you imagine?
Don't have to imagine it.
Don't have to imagine it's real.
Telegraphs on it for us.
So, Matilda.
So.
Stama went in hard on immigration this week in a speech
which his own party members likened to Enoch Powell's River of Blood.
I'm sure you've got something to say about this.
No, no opinion.
Yeah, I watched this speech a few times.
I read the transcript a few times.
Here's the story.
This week we've seen what the Sunday Express front page called
the biggest overhaul of immigration laws since Brexit.
But in reality, so much of this overhaul,
it's not the structured, expert-led immigration reform
that Labor promised us in its manifesto.
And I want to start off by saying,
I do understand that there is an importance
to have some control around immigration
and to reduce, as Labor said in its manifesto,
our reliance on underpaid foreign workers
rather than focusing on making sure, you know,
most of our workforce is employed and housed.
I understand the value of that.
The thing is this is not what so many of the policies,
especially the ones that they put up front in the speech.
It's not what they do.
What they do is the basest, cheapest level of policymaking.
It is headline politics,
not anything improving our society.
And there was a lot in this policy announcement.
So can you give us an example?
I'm going to pick out three examples.
The first policy I'm taking issue with, yet more new powers to deport foreign criminals.
So why is that cheap policymaking?
Because there are already so many laws in place that already do this.
Five years ago, it was made a legal obligation for the Home Secretary to deport anyone with a prison sentence of 12 months or more from a foreign country.
There were also additional ministerial powers given to deport anyone for lesser offences that they sort of vaguely deem not conducive to the public good.
The Court of Appeals actually had to step in because they thought the government was overusing these powers to deport people for like petty crime, including minors.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the understanding that the new laws were trying to get around the European Court of Human Rights, which has blocked a number of deportations of people who have committed serious crimes.
Yeah, this doesn't do that.
That is a massive issue that the right has taken, that deportations or foreign criminals have been blocked by human rights law.
This is a very complicated area where these domestic laws and international laws conflict.
It's also a very, very, very rare problem.
So that's why this is a media storm story, because if you were to read the media,
you could very easily think that deportations are always being blocked by human rights law.
There's been a lot of coverage given to a small handful of cases.
But to quote a brilliant piece by Jamie Burton in The Guardian about this,
this is a problem that does not really exist.
As mentioned, under current laws, anyone with a criminal sentence of 12 months or more is automatically deported.
They have to meet a very high threshold to argue against that.
And the vast, vast, vast majority of those who even attempt that fail.
I remember reading in all the right-wing media about a man who fought deportation because his son only ate chicken nuggets.
He wouldn't be able to get in a different country or something.
That's actually a very good example because that was widely reported.
But he failed.
Not only did he fail in his attempt, the judge.
actually said, you do not come anywhere near meeting the burden of proof to stay in this
country. And the thing is, Stama's law, it's not even about human rights law. This policy
doesn't change any of that. This is just rewriting policies that already exists. And in doing
so, it's feeding exaggerated fears about foreign criminals. Stammer is playing into a narrative
that he cannot win, not without ripping up everything he's ever stood for. And was voted in for.
Okay. Next example.
The next policy I take issue with
is the decision to double the amount of years
before most migrants can claim citizenship
from five to up to 10 years.
This is so cruel
and the thing is it doesn't achieve anything positive for society.
Integration was the word Kirstama
kept saying in this speech.
Integration is so important.
You know, you see all these complaints about migrants
not integrating, not adopting British customs,
not learning our language.
To get citizenship, you have to demonstrate doing all those things.
And it is so hypocritical, like ever heard of Brits abroad.
I know, I know.
Getting citizenship, it makes you feel part of your society.
It instills, like, loyalty and gratitude.
We know immigration can be a really difficult thing for a society without proper integration.
We also know immigration can be a really good thing for our society with good integration.
So why are we bringing in all these policies that are literally designed to prevent it?
It's not just extending the citizenship waiting time.
It's confining asylum seekers in enclosures away from normal residents,
banning them from working, from being our colleagues.
This is a really good way to guarantee immigration is as unsuccessful as possible.
And on that topic, there's a clip I want to play from one of the most important voices in this story,
one of the people living it.
This is Jonas, an asylum seeker in the UK, currently being held in Weathersfield,
a mass containment site in Essex, which is representative.
of how our government's section off
and re-traumatize people coming here
in a bid to look like they are controlling immigration.
But this is what it looks like in real life.
Weatherfeld is a prison.
They take us away from the people, from the city, from everything.
Just go to the food station and go to bed.
What can you say to that?
It is a prison.
There is four people, six people in the room.
At first, I was like, do they want us?
to fight. Why did they put us in here? But some things you have to accept if there is no choice.
The doctor told me that the environment here is not good for your health. While at the same time
you cannot do anything, I'm just hoping this will finish. It's very stressful, you know. All these
problems, all this life. I'm just hoping to finish my degree in this country because I've
been travelling around so many problems. But it was, I don't want to remember this. I just wanted to
finish. I'm just hoping to live peacefully. I have to focus on my life. I have to do something
with my life. If you are died, you are died. If you are alive, you have to do something.
Medes Sans Frontier and Doctors of the World UK have just published a report about this asylum facility.
They are urging the government to close it as a health emergency.
You can read the full report in the show notes.
And now what is your third and final example?
The third policy I'm going to highlight here is the decision to restrict family reunification.
The UK Labour government plans to reduce the number of people being brought over by relatives who've migrated to the UK.
What I want to highlight today is that when it comes to asylum seekers, there's a good reason for us to preserve family reunification, and it is coming from the right-wing media.
You will often hear these media condemn that all the people coming over in dinghies to claim asylum are men.
Here's the talk TV clip we talked about in the finale of our last season.
What amazes me is that all the immigrants that we have are men.
Not all, but we have a lot of single men.
a lot of single men.
They're cowards.
Where are all the women and children?
They've abandoned the women and children back home.
I mean, I'm sorry, but that's not how this works.
It's not how it works.
When you don't have legal and safe routes for people to claim asylum
and you have millions and millions and millions of people who need asylum,
then men take those dangerous journeys,
often so that they can support the women and their families,
either by sending money back,
or in the best case scenario,
by bringing them over through family reunification.
Family reunification is the only hope that women and children have
of coming over safely without exposing themselves to the journeys
on which they will most likely be assaulted, raped, detained, tortured, held hostage,
which, by the way, happens to many of the men who do these journeys.
Family reunification is the reason that you don't see as many women and children
in those boats as you see men.
And I guarantee you, if we strip that back,
That is something we will start to see more.
Which is supposedly the opposite of what the commentators asking, where are all the women and children want?
But that's the thing. So many of the policies announced they do not achieve the fair and controlled immigration system that Stama claims.
They are simply appealing to the electorate's basest instincts.
And for this, I massively blame our media.
The sensationalist and panic-striking messaging around migration has made it impossible to implement
nuanced evidence-based policies that control the negatives of immigration while promoting the positives
of immigration. These three policies are examples of that, adding yet more bureaucracy to the deportation
process, doubling the amount of time it takes to integrate and reducing legal family reunification
routes. This is headline politics at its worst. Meanwhile, the people whose lives it actually
effects, they will suffer immensely. So much that like, I actually, like, I just wanted, I wanted to
cry. And this is all for the sake of trying to cling on to power. Yeah. Because essentially,
Labour is trying to beat reform at their own game. Which is stupid. So stupid. You cannot fight
fire with fire. You cannot be more anti-immigration than reform without being straight up fascist.
That is a race to the bottom that you cannot win.
Time for Eyes on Palestine.
Today's Eyes on Palestine is a quick segment,
but there's a point to that
because we want to show that that's all it takes
to remember that people are living in a war zone.
We get fatigued to this, we get normalised,
but this is what a single day in a war zone looks like.
We're recording on Wednesday, so this is a Wednesday stat.
Between midnight on Tuesday and when we were recording 10am on Wednesday,
65 Palestinians had been killed.
And you know what?
I also took a little look at Ukraine,
because it is day 1,175 of the war in Ukraine
and every day people are going through this.
At least three people were killed in a Russian bombardment of Ukraine's Kharkiv.
At least 16 people were wounded by a Ukrainian drone attack on the region of Belgarod.
People are living through war.
And as a call to action, what we can do is we can uplift the voices
who are reporting on these war zones.
You can find information by looking up the committee to protect journalists.
Thank you for listening.
Next week we will be bringing you a deep dive
where we look at the situation in the Niger Delta,
where Shell has been accused of toxic oil spills.
We reported on this a few years ago,
but there's an update now as the story goes to trial,
which means that over in the UK and with us in the studio,
we will have some community leaders telling us what's going on.
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