Media Storm - News Watch: Trump’s ‘war on women’s sports’, hostage handovers, and is Labour Reform-ing?
Episode Date: February 13, 2025! JOIN US AT SAMFIRE’S EP LAUNCH PARTY TONIGHT ! This week’s political news reads like a playbook in fascist propaganda - and rule number 1 is throwing minorities under the bus. Whether it’s Tr...ump’s America, Merz’s Germany or Starmer’s Great Britain, leadership apparently now means bowing to the myths of the masses - myths the media has miserably failed to correct. Is there really a ‘migrant crime wave’? We review worldwide data to equip listeners with the facts missing from the mainstream media. What about ‘the war on women’s sports’? How many transgender athletes does it take for the Trump administration to ceremoniously sign a national ban? (Apparently, just 10 - we wonder what Musk’s ‘Department of Government Efficiency’ makes of that use of federal funds.) And guess who predicted Hamas’ hesitation over hostage releases, following Trump’s plans to “take over” Gaza? The families of those hostages. So why did their concerns barely make the press? We finish News Watch with Eyes On Palestine: new frontiers of war emerge in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The episode is hosted and produced by Mathilda Mallinson (@mathildamall) and Helena Wadia (@helenawadia) The music is by Samfire (@samfire) Follow us @mediastormpod Support us on Patreon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hi Media Stormers.
It's Thursday and you know what that means.
We're dissecting the week's main stories.
Finding the facts behind the fearmongering.
Calling out the most unhinged headlines
and helping you read the news critically.
It's your essential guide to the mainstream media.
This is Media Storm's News Watch.
You look at some of the fake news on these platforms,
there's just so much out there right now.
Some breaking news to bring you now.
People want to be able to express opinions.
I understand that.
I have only one objective, which is to make sure the BBC is truly impartial.
Well, I don't think that the mainstream media was lying.
I think we missed the overarching story.
Welcome to Media Storms Newswatch, helping you make sense of the mainstream media.
I'm Matilda Mallinson.
And I'm Helena Wadia.
This week's Media Storms.
Trump's War on Women's Sports, Hostage Handovers and Is Labour Reforming?
Performing.
Hey.
Hey, Tilda.
How's your laptop?
Guys, we had a spilly-tilly incident.
This was not funny.
This is when spilly-tilly.
Stop being a joke.
Yeah, this was not a joke anymore because Matilda,
she essentially poured...
It was a pint.
A pint glass of water.
It was a pint of water.
On to her laptop.
You know what, though?
Of all the times that I have spilt on my laptop.
I love that there's multiple, multiple times.
Of all the times, this is the most liquid I have ever spilled
and the least my laptop has ever died.
So it's still working.
It's alive.
That's so good.
So far.
Because, guys, I can't tell you the level of water on this laptop.
Yeah, but we were so impressive in our response.
It was within three.
seconds we had two bags of rice and a tray and a drainage board and several towels yeah it was um i'd never
jumped into action that fast you've known me too long yeah uh also i'm seeing you tonight right yes
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sister side note she's not just going to pee and they'll be performing it in stoke noonton i think
there's still some tickets so i'll post the link in the show notes
And we'll see you there.
Yay.
What else?
What's happened in the news?
Oh, I was quite entertained.
I don't know if you saw this poll last week
published in the front page of the Times
saying that Gen Z, or like the majority of Gen Z
basically want a dictatorship.
Did you see that?
Oh, I did see this, yes.
52% of Gen Zs would prefer a strong leader
who isn't voted in.
A military rule.
But then the Times front page two days ago
was like scandal.
The majority of Gen Zs think the UK is racist
and only 10% of them would actually
fight for our country. So which
is it, do Genesees want military
rule or are they all
anti-military? Either it says
Gen Z are as fickle
as they're controversial or it says
polls bullshit. Yeah.
Probably that. What else has happened?
You know I really hate talking about
or thinking about Donald Trump
but what I want to
acknowledge about the story I'm bringing
up mostly is just the sheer
stupidity of it. I am
so ready. So
Trump has signed an executive order to ensure that all government agencies enforce a ban on transgender girls
from participating in female school sports.
If schools fail to adhere to the policy, they could lose federal funding.
It also is calling for the government to deny visas for trans women seeking to compete professionally in the United States,
and bear in mind the 28 Olympics is going to be held in L.A.
And it will instruct the State Department to pressure the International Olympic Committee
to change its policy, a policy which, by the way,
already has guidance in place,
preventing any athlete from gaining an unfair advantage.
The first thing I want to ask you is,
did you see the footage of Trump signing this order?
Was this the picture where he's surrounded by all these little girls?
Yeah, okay.
It was creepy as fuck.
I'm sorry.
He did like a signing ceremony
with about 100 women and girls standing behind him,
all these kids surrounding his desk.
being used as propaganda
because there's no way that these children
know what they're there for, right?
Also, the absolute irony
of a man who has been found in a civil case
to have committed sexual assault
and let alone all the other sexual assault allegations against him,
let alone literally being caught on tape
bragging about sexual assault.
The absolute irony of a sexual predator
sitting at a table signing an order
that is supposedly going to protect women.
If we wanted to protect women,
we wouldn't have let Trump into the White House.
Yeah, like I cannot understand why people think
that we need to go to these measures
to protect from such a, such a small and marginalized population.
But let's look at the reasons people,
some people do think that.
I suppose the first issue is, you know,
are cis women being disadvantaged in sport
because of trans women?
Okay, so it is a complicated question
and I don't claim to be any sort of scientist
and I certainly don't claim to be an expert in sport.
But the main consensus is that it should be down to the experts
and that sporting bodies have got sets of rules
that they have made with the available science that they have today.
But, you know, what we're seeing here is nothing to do with the expertise.
This is about emotion.
And we've seen real-life examples of severe hostility
that is arising from that.
We've seen examples of cis women
who are deemed to not look feminine enough
being accused of men masquerading as women.
This is not in a good place.
Exactly.
And it is precisely this toxicity
that Trump is using to win over more and more people.
When signing this bill, he said,
my administration will not stand by
and watch men beat and batter female athletes.
So literally leaning into the nastiest tropes
about trans women.
But also, can I just say that if women's sport was being overrun with trans women winning, surely we would have noticed?
It's a great point.
How many trans athletes do you think this bill that Trump made such a great show and dance about are likely to be affected?
Children or athletes?
From collegiate level.
I guess, I don't know, a thousand.
Try 10.
Out of 510,000 athletes competing at the collegiate level in the US, there are fewer than
10 who publicly identify as transgender.
Oh my God, politics is embarrassing.
And here's where we come back to Media Storm.
That crucial context of how many transgender athletes there are and how small the trans population
is was either entirely missed out in most articles on this topic or was popped in as a paragraph
right at the end of the article.
And of course, of course, I did not see a single piece of coverage that included any lived
experience of any transgender person.
So, we'll do that here.
Here's Leuern Cox, actress, and activist.
Everything he's doing is illegal, by the way, everything.
So hopefully it'll be challenging the courts.
But I think there, I mean, at the end of the day,
trans people are less than 1% of the population.
And trans people are not the reason you can't afford eggs.
We're not the reason that you can't afford health care.
We're not the reason that you can't buy a house or your rents too high.
I think they're focused on the wrong 1%.
I think the other 1% is the reason for all those things.
You hear LeVern there mentioned that she hopes Trump's order
will be challenged in the courts.
And I also think that that's some crucial context
that has been missed out of this reporting,
which is that prior to Trump's executive order,
over 20 states already have laws, regulations,
or policies restricting transgender students
from participating in sports.
However, these laws have frequently been challenged in federal courts
and generally the courts have ruled that trans athletes should be allowed to compete.
So there are some signs here that this order is nothing more than just stoking a culture war.
Can I just say Trump brought in Musk on this whole facade of stripping back red tape
and cutting unnecessary costs?
I want to know how much money was spent on this signing ceremony
and all of the legislative manpower that has gone into this bill
that is just on so many levels
not changing or affecting
anyone's life.
Absolutely. And ultimately
Trump won this election by throwing
trans people under the bus.
I saw a clip from Natasha Devon's show
on LBC and Natasha
the presenter spoke to a man called Aaron
and Aaron said that he admired Trump
and that men are more
disadvantaged than women. Is this the Aaron
that's been trolling us on Instagram?
His name was Aaron.
Oh my God.
Oh yeah.
Okay, so Aaron said
So Aaron said that he admired Trump
And when Natasha ran through some of Trump's worst policies
Ie illegal mining of private data
Healthcare costs, etc
Aaron admitted
Oh, he didn't love all of Trump's policies, just some
And then that's when Natasha asked him
What specifically he admires about Trump's policies
And guess what Aaron said
He liked that Trump says there are only two genders
That's the only example
that this man could think of
of a good thing that Trump had done.
And look, I just want to sum this up by reading
what Natasha said in a post about this.
She said, it always comes down to trans people.
The politicisation of their existence
is the gateway via which whole populations
have been radicalised into voting
against their own interests
and for dangerous authoritarian regimes.
They're cheering on the persecution
of less than 1% of the population
whilst punching themselves in the face.
You know what Trump said when he signed this order?
He said, the war on women's sports is over.
Well, it's really easy to end a made-up war that you started.
I want to look now at another group whose real lives have been pawned in this week of politics.
That is the families of Israeli hostages.
Devastating news broke this week that Hamas was halting hostage releases until further notice.
This situation is constantly changing.
And it could change between us recording and us publishing.
When this news happened, it was devastating, but it was also predictable.
To the hostage families, whose warnings last week of exactly this being likely to happen
largely got lost in the noise.
Yeah, I have to say I didn't read or hear any of the lived experience from the hostages families.
And I think it's also worth mentioning that while Hamas halted the hostage release,
they blamed Israel for breaching the ceasefire first
and none of the alleged breaches by Israel have made our press like Hamas did.
It's true.
The thing is, though, like whatever the evidence says
in terms of whether Israel or Hamas moved to breach the ceasefire first,
there is one very, very blatant breach that's just incontestable.
Which is...
Trump's.
Right.
Matilda, we're doing a terrible job of not making the news the Trump show.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to make it work.
OK.
Okay.
One of Hamas' given reasons for halting hostage releases
was that Israel allegedly delayed the return
of displaced people to northern Gaza.
This is one of the primary conditions
of the first stage of the ceasefire, right?
Gazans return to Gaza.
Israeli officials denied Hamas's allegations,
but is either really the point
when Trump has repeatedly said
that the US has no intention
of seeing Gazans return home?
He's also since doubled down
this and confirmed that his plans
to turn the territory into the Riviera
of the Middle East would not see Ghazans
returning to Gaza even in the long term.
And at the time of his first whole
mad Riviera announcement, what was largely
buried among all of the geopolitical
analysis was the analysis of hostage
families. But speaking
to news outlet Middle East Eye,
Yehuda Cohen, the father of a detained
Israeli soldier, said he and other family members
held genuine concerns that the president's plan would force Hamas to abandon the deal.
And to see, this is me diving behind the Trump show.
At the first opportunity, media, other politicians, we let this news story become a geopolitical
chess game, an experiment in international relations, and the human stories get sidelined.
And the consequences is that we end up giving these world leaders who are playing with their
lives a sense of impunity.
We give them the attention.
Even if some of the commentators are right,
even if Trump is playing the world's riskiest bluff,
he is gambling people's lives.
And if those were your families,
you would not be okay with it.
Okay, next week, no more Trump.
Deal.
Unless he signs another order,
turning all paper straws into plastic straws.
Did you see this?
The war on paper straws is over.
You're making that up, though.
No, yeah.
No, no, that was real.
Oh, world.
So Labour has dressed up as the Reform Party this week,
not just with new branding,
but videos of door raids and deportations of illegal migrants.
This pattern echoes a shift internationally, right,
of centrist politics making concessions to extremism.
Maybe most shocking recently occurred in Germany a couple of weeks ago
when Friedrich Mertz, who is the leader of the Christian Democratic Party,
that's Angela Merkel's party,
he broke what is a fundamental taboo in German politics
by partnering with the far-right AFD party
in order to pass a hardline immigration policy.
my husband's German, right?
He was really shocked
listening to the newsagents podcast.
I mean, I was really shocked
that he listens to any other podcasts.
How dare he?
But he was really shocked
because I was a Labour MP on there this week.
His name is Jake Richards.
And he basically was saying,
look, he was explaining Labor's decision
to dress up like reform,
saying, look, I just came back from Germany
and I've been observing
what's happening there with the rise of the AFD
and the takeaway is that
Labor should be doing
what Mouts is doing.
Labour should be looking at the example of these parties and why they're being successful.
But that is the opposite takeaway of many German MPs who carry heavily the national memory of fascism
and of turning the population against minorities.
Tuesday saw the government in Germany's final session before they closed for election
and the resignation speech of a leading centre-left MP who shocked many by stepping down
and he left his colleagues with a heavy message.
He said, to translate,
politics today is all about opportunity, not integrity.
He said, yes, you know,
it is important to listen to what people are feeling.
It's so important.
But leadership is not just looking for their votes.
It's looking for their solutions.
He's saying a chancellor who only regurgitates what his own.
ear has been told is just
a walking echo chamber and we
have more than enough echo chambers already.
Unlike Labor
this week, he is recognizing
a vital truth here
that perception, public
perception, is not necessarily
the same as reality.
And for nowhere is this more true
than migration. One of the most
dishonest areas of politics
and of coverage, right,
is migrant crime.
Okay, look, I know we said we wouldn't
talk about Trump, but wasn't one of the core phrases of Trump's campaign, a so-called
migrant crime wave, which is exactly the perception most people would get from a bulk of our
media. And you know what? It is not true. Over the past 30 years, as a whole, violent crime,
by the way, is down. In the UK, it's down. And this is despite record net migration. And in the
US, the data shows migrants consistently have lower crime rates than Americans, actually like
significantly lower. This, by the way, is also true in Australia and New Zealand.
Wow. So, yeah, I just want to, as succinctly as possible, lay out for people where the data
is on migrant crime. And I want you guys to share this with people, share the facts when you hear
it come up, because the conversation right now bears no relation to reality. So globally,
the data either finds no causal link between immigration and crime or mixed results. There's two
types of ways to measure this, right? And they often have slightly different findings. The first is
incarceration rates. Quite a lot of countries show that migrant populations or some migrant
populations are overrepresented in prison. The other way of measuring it is crime rates, right? So we look
at the rates of migration and we look at the rates of crime to see if they change in a pattern with
each other. And actually here we see no causal link. Okay, why if more migrants come into your
country. Do the crime levels not change? They stay the same. But within your prisons, there are
more migrants than native populations. One of the possible explanations for that is actually just
bias, racial profiling in the police, in the judicial system. The UK is actually not even
showing high migrant incarceration rates. I ran the data on this a few weeks ago after there were
all these headlines saying migrants were disproportionately arrested in the UK. Well, within our
prisons, they're actually not disproportionately represented.
So they're being arrested, but they're not put in prison.
That's maybe discrepancy in policing,
or maybe the crimes they're being arrested for aren't severe.
Now, there is one exception, which is often referenced, and that's Denmark.
Denmark is a rare example, which points to higher, quote, ethnic minority crime rates.
And this is particularly shown with younger male and less educated migrants.
But again, the overall data is much milder than the single study often used to show this.
Okay, and this is so different to the messaging coming from the media
and now even left or centrist MPs.
How many front pages have there been literally just this week
linking crime and migration?
Crime happens every day in amounts that can be barely reported.
Most never make the headlines.
But as soon as there's a migrant suspect, we talk about it for weeks.
And compare that to say the mass shooting in Sweden last week.
This was the biggest mass shooting in Swedish history.
We stopped talking about it almost immediately.
So I guess the shooter was Swedish and white.
Yeah, he was white, although of course white is never mentioned
because race isn't relevant unless it's not white.
And it's not like there weren't really relevant takeaways
that we could have discussed with this massive incident of violence.
This guy may not have been a migrant, but he had mental health problems.
He had multiple shooting guns.
He'd been repeatedly refused military service.
These are causative problems that we always say.
in violent crime, but we don't mention them when ethnic minority or migrants are involved.
At the first opportunity, we'll distract from systemic problems to fixate on and blame any sign
of otherness. And this is really reminded me of Hussein Kassavani on our first ever series of
Media Storm. And he spoke about doubled standards in reports about mass shootings. And it just,
yeah, feels really relevant right now. Let's play a clip.
With all these types of events, it always starts off with like, oh, this is another Muslim
terrorists, the same kind of rhetoric about immigration and this is what happens when you let
refugees come into your country and so on. Then when like more information comes out, you can see
how people are not only trying to go back on their own stories, but they're still trying to
weave their own narrative. The affordance of mental health is given to certain people, but for
others it's very much like, no, you were motivated primarily by theology, you were motivated primarily
by race and so on. And I think in the aftermath of like terrorist attacks and also in other stories
like, you know, grooming gangs, for example, right? Immigrant men and particularly
dark-skinned immigrant men who are like threats to your nation and like threats to your race
and threats to the spiritual health of your country. It's always largely like fixated on this
idea of the immigrant savage, the foreigner who is not subjected to the individualistic
moral failings that are afforded to like people who are white or people who are not come from
immigrant bratcans or like who are not Muslim. It's always sort of framed as culture wars and
it's always framed as like clash of civilizations. I guess the point that I'm trying to say is
When it comes to people of colour, very often these people are commodified
and they're sort of used to particular ends in order to kind of tell stories
rather than individuals who have agency over their own actions.
That was Hussain Kassvani on Media Storm's series one episode about anti-Asian hate.
And just to take this back to the initial news story I was talking about here,
remember that quote from the German MP,
Opportunity has trumped integrity in politics.
But this is true for MPs, and it's true for the media.
For MPs today, sharing and re-sharing any story about migrant crime,
even if it's not on a representative scale, even if it's not even true, right, Southport,
it gets you votes.
Reform built themselves on this, and now Labour has bowed to it.
But this is how extremism and hate and fascism take root.
And for the media, when there is such a gap between public perception
and evidence-based reality,
then the media has failed at its main function in a democracy.
Time for eyes on Palestine.
Now, if you remember last week, Helena and I said
we were going to be latching this on to the end of every news watch
because for all of the major news happening in the week,
there is one major story that we cannot and should not look away from.
And that is our complicity in genocide and war on Gaza and the people of Palestine.
We were talking earlier about human stories, and I want to talk about humanization in the coverage of hostages and just point out some key differences in the reporting of Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners.
Did you see a key difference in what I just said?
Hostages, prisoners.
Right. And prisoners implies that somebody has done something wrong, they have committed a crime, and therefore they are in prison.
But a lot of Palestinians have never even been tried for their supposed crimes.
I mean, it's widely known that Israel practices so-called administrative detention en masse
has done for decades and decades.
And this is the practice of detaining, imprisoning, indefinitely, without trial.
So they should also be called hostages or captives.
And actually there are many, many among them who are, you know, healthcare workers, journalists, laborers,
who were widely believed to be completely innocent.
Exactly.
That's the first bit of difference I wanted to point out.
The second bit of difference is really about what this all comes down to,
and that's humanisation.
We know the names of the Israeli hostages.
We know their backstories very often.
These Palestinian captives,
we don't get to hear their names.
We don't get to hear who they were.
We don't get to hear their jobs.
We don't get to hear from their families.
It's just a number.
And it is completely and utterly dehumanising.
Yeah, and the world was rightly shocked
when three Israeli hostages were released on the weekend,
the conditions that they'd clearly been held on.
It was really, really upsetting.
But where was this shock?
The Palestinian captives being held,
there are countless testimonies,
there's video footage that the conditions they're being held in
include the worst, most unimaginable example
of torture, rape, beating starvation. And yes, death in captivity. And there was a BBC headline
and it read, What will anger at sight of gaunt hostages mean for a fragile ceasefire? And it's
important to talk about that. But what have we seen from Gaza? I've seen body parts of children.
I've seen Palestinian men stripped and chained together. I've heard five-year-old Palestinian girl
behind Rajab on the phone to paramedics
trapped in a car with six of her dead family members around her
before being killed herself.
What does that mean for the ceasefire?
Nothing, clearly.
And you know what also might have implications for a ceasefire?
The fact that, as the UN has just estimated,
40,000 Palestinians have been displaced from the West Bank
by the current and ongoing Israeli operation there,
which we talked about a bit last week.
And there's one other frontier of this war
that we need to keep our eyes on
and that's East Jerusalem
another annexed Palestinian territory
where Israel has been cracking down
with new methods of censorship and terror
an example from the week that shocked many local Israelis
as well as Palestinians was a police raid
at the famous and much loved educational bookshop
this place was opened in 1984
and it's become widely known as an iconic meeting place
for researchers, diplomats, journalists,
tourists from all sides, right?
It's Palestinian owners proudly present it as a place
where Palestinians and Israelis can mingle together.
To quote, we have room for anyone's opinion
and we don't always agree, but we can talk about it.
But earlier this week, those owners were arrested
and dragged in front of the court with their hands
and their feet shackled.
Witnesses say that books with Palestinian flags were seized.
This place is known for books
where people can read about the history
of Israel-Palestine and where Israelis can access
really rare insight into Palestinian perspectives
on their shared history.
The police in their statement
labelled the booksellers as inciters of terror
with no evidence.
I think that what we need to see in this
is that Israel's war is now targeting
not just the Palestinian people,
but Palestinian culture.
And that is the second ingredient of ethnic cleansing.
Thank you for listening.
Tomorrow for Valentine's Day,
we have another episode dropping,
a deep dive into asexuality,
with our guest, Yasmin Benoit.
That episode will be out tomorrow at 5am.
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