Media Storm - News Watch: ‘Two-tiered justice’ lies, Bournemouth femicide, and blame it on the migrants

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Time for another weekly news debrief: we pick apart the most unhinged headlines and try to make sense of the mainstream media, helping you consume the news critically. So many media storm’s blowing... up our radar this week! The ICE abduction of a Turkish PhD student in the US (01:17); a coordinated effort by the Times, Telegraph, TalkTV, GB News, and Robert Jenrick to mislead the public about new sentencing guidelines (5:02); meanwhile, Marjorie Taylor Greene and her MAGA friends blame migrants, Biden, and everyone but themselves for the Signal group-chat security scandal (17:56). Plus - and this is where it gets awkward AF - Sky New's Sophie Ridge confuses two Muslim MPs for each other (22:00); a double stabbing in Bournemouth reveals how sensationalist media can play unwittingly into the hands of murderous men (26:05); and did you know - Adolescence is a true story? (34:24) And if you have concerns about the knee-jerk reaction of showing Adolescence in schools, here's the open letter you can sign. Finally, for Eyes on Palestine, we report on the discovery of a mass grave of Palestinian doctors that has reignited accusations of Israeli war crimes. (38:20) The episode is hosted and produced by Mathilda Mallinson (@mathildamall) and Helena Wadia (@helenawadia) The music is by @soundofsamfire Support us on Patreon! Follow us on Instagram, Bluesky, and TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:08 calling out the most unhinged headlines, and helping you read the news critically. It's your essential guide to the mainstream media. This is Media Storm's News Watch. You look at some of the fake news on these platforms, there's just so much out there right now. Some breaking news to bring you now. People want to be able to express opinions.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I understand that. I have only one. objective, which is to make sure the BBC is truly impartial. Well, I don't think that the mainstream media was lying. I think we missed the overarching story. Welcome to Media Storms Newswatch, helping you make sense of the mainstream media. I'm Matilda Mallinson. And I'm Helena Wadia.
Starting point is 00:01:48 This week's Media Storms, two-tier justice lies, Bournemouth Femmicide, and Blame it on the migrants. Hi, Helena. Hello, Matilda. Happy Thursday. You look almost as shattered as I do. I don't know. This week's been crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I'm so tired. Also, it's like a crazy news cycle. I just, for me, this week, I've just been completely shattered by one particular story. I literally can't stop thinking about Ramazer Oz Turk. She's a Turkish-born PhD student at Tufts University in the US. studying on an academic visa and she was literally abducted off the street by
Starting point is 00:02:33 six masked immigration and customs enforcement or ICE officers. I mean, have you seen the video footage? It's chilling. Someone on the street filming can be heard asking is this a kidnapping, call the police and then one of the masked men
Starting point is 00:02:51 is like, we are the police. As federal agents converged on 30-year-old Turkish National Rumaesa Ozturk Tuesday night and wrestled her phone from her hands. The Tufts University Ph.D. student cried out in distress. They appeared to be in plain clothes, wearing masks, and driving unmarked vehicles. Prompting questions from Ozturk and concerned neighbors. Is this a kidnapping?
Starting point is 00:03:25 So you would assume watching something like this, that she is at least suspected of an incredibly dangerous, violent crime. Well, yeah, her crime, apparently, is that she co-authored an op-ed in the Tufts student newspaper that cited credible allegations that Israel was violating international human rights law in Gaza and called on the university president to take a stronger stance against the genocide in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:03:55 and this is what the US Homeland Security Department called engaging in activities in support of Hamas. It's the same old story, but it's actually terrified that you can be like disappeared off the streets for co-authoring a student op-ed. We've talked about the weaponisation of the term terrorism. We've talked about the weaponisation of anti-Semitism to serve authoritarian agendas.
Starting point is 00:04:22 But we need to do this properly. this total 180 of the free speech absolutism of the MAGA movement that is becoming a state in which, you know, words are banned by lists and lists and people are detained and abducted off the street without charge, without trial and deported from the country. We need to do this properly. Free speech. What it even means. How it's been perverted in modern politics. Next week's deep dive. Let's do that. I agree. to share a happy headline I woke up to on the theme of democracy winning in America. Okay. Which is, I don't know if you saw that Wisconsin was having a local Supreme Court election. And Musk was giving out million dollar checks again to get people to vote for the Republican
Starting point is 00:05:12 conservative candidate because it was seen as like a real poll on Trump's success and power in the Supreme Court. Anyway, the liberal judge, Susan Crawford, just won. So people didn't take the million dollar checks. Maybe people aren't so happy with Trump turning the US into a terrorist state oligarchy. I don't know, maybe. Thank you before we start also to listener Joe, who notified us of a government consultation about media literacy. We will be sending in our submission.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I also learned reading the call for submissions that 90% of teachers in the UK want to see media literacy explicitly incorporated into the national curriculum. Maybe we should start doing media storm live shows and schools. I actually think that's genius. First story is a story of a democratic crisis, a practical coup d'etat by the courts of law, spun from little to nothing by the rage manufacturers at G.B. News. They, and frankly, far more reasonable right-wing media, have taken a pretty inoffensive routine occurrence
Starting point is 00:06:17 and have told it as a scandal, just so that they can invite on some pseudo-expert to have a good rant and then clip up lots of red-faced, blood-boiling, gammon-spitting viral content. Okay, so what actually happened? The story centres around new sentencing guidelines issued by the Sentencing Council, which is an independent body including members of the judiciary and non-judicial members who put together guidelines for judges giving out sentences based on evidence and public consultations. So this is about new guidelines.
Starting point is 00:06:47 They've written to cater to a growing list of criminal offences introduced by the government to lock up irregular immigrants, including legitimate refugees, but that's not even the media storm today. Okay. So in the legislation passed by Parliament, the maximum sentence set is four years. GB News claims that the new sentencing guidelines overrule this
Starting point is 00:07:13 by instead setting just nine months. Parliament says four years, and they've said nine months. Well, who on earth are they? and that's the politest way I can put that, Martin. But who on earth are they to think that they can overrule Parliament? A faceless group of non-entities that none of us have heard of, none of us know, and none of us can hold to account. Get rid of them.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Now, before we get into the actual legal facts... Oh, yeah, just boring, nitty-gritty stuff, probably not even relevant for a good news story these days. Yeah. Well, allow me first to introduce you to our speakers. Our presenter, Martin Dornut, journalist by grace of a career at Ladd's Mags and Page 3 of the Sun. Oh, okay, so the porno pages, basically. Remember those?
Starting point is 00:08:03 He was also deputy leader of the Reclaim Party. Oh, for goodness sake. Okay, so for any non-UK listeners, the Reclaim Party was launched to push Brexit, I think. Yeah, funded by a single multimillionaire led by Lawrence Fox by now. an out-of-work actor. Probably. It doesn't believe in climate change and it won precisely zero seats in Parliament. That was a good summary.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I don't think you're going to be as knowledgeable about the expert guest, Stephen Barrett. He's introduced as a barrister and a writer. Okay. Barrister of what? Not immigration law, not criminal law either. He is a lawyer of commercial disputes. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:48 All I can think about right now, this might be a bit niche, but it reminds me of that scene in the rest of development. What kind of why do you practice? When Michael Bluth essentially like pretends to be a maritime lawyer, because once he played one in a school play called The Trial of Captain Hook, do we remember this? You're a crook, Captain Hook. In order to satisfy an English requirement,
Starting point is 00:09:10 Michael appeared in the drama club's production of an original play, the trial of Captain Hook. You're a crook, Captain Hook. Judge, won't you? That's all I'm thinking about right now. Luckily, his interview on GB News was savagely torn apart by King's Council and actual criminal lawyer, Jamie Hamilton, or at View from the North on X, for anyone wanting to follow. Lots of this is word for word what he wrote because he explains it very clearly.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But yes, I did actually fact-check all of it with the original sentencing guidelines which are available online. Take us down the rabbit hole. Point one. The lie. The proposition that the sentencing council have overruled Parliament when Parliament have said four years and they have said nine months. This is just plain nonsense. It misrepresents how sentencing works and can only be sustained if you do not understand the word maximum. Okay. Parliament have set the maximum sentence for certain immigration offences at four years. Absolutely no one that understands criminal sentencing. thinks that this means all offenders should receive the maximum sentence. There will always be a range of sentences passed. That is how it works. The vast majority of sentences will be passed at lower than the maximum. The original guidelines, by the way, still state the maximum for your sentence
Starting point is 00:10:34 at the very top of the guidelines. Okay, so to suggest that this is overruling parliament is just wrong? Yes, and it gets worse. Oh, God. Point two, this is where a lie becomes a conspiracy. Martin, the journalist, the ladsmag expert. Martin, the ladsmag expert, goes on to say that the sentencing council have deliberately set the sentence at nine months so as to avoid the deportation requirement for sentences over 12 months. But the 12 month threshold is one that will really get the antennae twitching of people like yourself, because that's the threshold where you can be deported upon serving your sentence.
Starting point is 00:11:13 This is legal tools for lawyers who are licking their lips and the prospects of using this loophole of keeping illegal immigrants in the country at British taxpayers' expense. They want it under 12 months for one reason and one reason only is that they don't want these people deported because that is their personal political opinion. Now, what is incredibly misleading about this is that the Sentencing Council recommends a range of,
Starting point is 00:11:43 sentences and nine months is the lowest figure. So the range they recommend is nine months to two years. And the starting point from which judges should begin their assessment is not just over 12 months, it's a year and six months. So it's above the deportation threshold. If they were trying to avoid deportation, they would have set the starting point as below 12 months. They've said it is above that. GB News has taken the lower end and implied that they've set this as the maximum. It's just completely, completely misleading. That is ridiculous. And by the way, the reasons that the sentence and guidelines give to consider a lighter sentence are if the offender, and I hate calling offender, because these are refugees, if the offender fled persecution or serious danger, and if they were involved due to coercion or pressure.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Okay, so, yeah, fair enough, maybe. And that brings me on to point three, which is the failure of the wider media to understand, basic law or fact check at all. Now, obviously, Gb News is not exactly mainstream media, like, do we expect any better? No. But a sign of how mainstream media is descending to their level in a bid to catch up, The Times, the Telegraph, Talk TV, God, we're really giving the letter T a bad name. They all reported the same misleading claims in the same misleading way.
Starting point is 00:13:03 The telegraph headline was two-tier justice quango, letting hundreds of illegal migrants Dodge deportation. What? Wait, was that an opinion piece? No, this was a news piece, i.e. supposed to be reporting plain facts, no commentary. Talk TV made several rant sessions about it, and The Times wrote this outrageously, pointed headline also for a news piece. Sentence guidelines would allow illegal immigrants to avoid deportation. So angry. Either they do not understand law, or they are spinning an accident.
Starting point is 00:13:40 narrative. Neither option is great. I honestly don't think that they read the sentencing guidelines themselves comparing what they reported to what the guidelines actually say. For example, they all expressed outrage that the sentencing guidelines include as a mitigating factor, no previous convictions in the UK. They're all like, oh, well, they just arrived in the UK, so obviously they don't have any previous convictions. But look, I'm reading the sentence and guidelines right now. They say, the court must treat as an aggraffating factor each relevant previous conviction and later clarifies explicitly, including convictions in other jurisdictions. What? So they've just made that up?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yeah. Clearly their priority in reporting the story then just is an accuracy. Right. Which brings us on to my final point. If the priority is an accuracy, what is the priority in this reporting? What agenda are these stirred up scandals serving? The anti-migrant agenda? Check. But also, undermining faiths in the courts. and this is at a time when human rights law is being presented as a barrier to the far right and right-wing agenda.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Here's one more clip, okay? For the final time, ladies and gentlemen, Mr Stephen Barrett on GB News. It's anti-democratic, and what we're seeing now is the apex of these anti-democratic maneuvers. Effectively, what you have in the sentencing council is a political body, which is not accountable to voters. So your listeners and your viewers, they are not accountable to them. This is not democratic. Quite the opposite. It is a core principle of democracy to have an independent judiciary.
Starting point is 00:15:23 The three core pillars of democracy are an independent legislature, i.e. Parliament in the UK, an independent executive that would be our cabinet and an independent judiciary, the courts. These are not supposed to step on each other's territory. Now, sentencing guidelines that are based on public consultations, and the guidelines do not do that. But the government mandating predetermined sentences that don't take in the specific circumstances of a crime and don't take in anything that has heard during the criminal trial, well, that is overstepping. To quote our trustee criminal lawyer fact checker, Jamie Hamilton, once more.
Starting point is 00:16:00 He said, why am I bothered about this? It's because the public are being wholly misled about the criminal justice system. There is every reason to debate the rights and wrongs of policy and procedure, but to actively mislead in this way undermines the system in which we work and which is absolutely essential to democracy. I couldn't agree more, but I do also have another question, which is how did the media even fall upon this story in the first place? Yeah, that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:16:27 As far as I can gauge, it all started with Robert Jenrick. Oh, great. He is the shadow justice secretary, although he tweets, about everything. And to be honest, reading those tweets, he's either an idiot or a pathological liar based on like the stream of inaccuracies coming from them.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He commented on the sentencing guidelines, warning that we're heading towards a quote, two-tiered justice system. That is, you're going to love this. Go on. Biased against Christians and straight white men. Oh, yeah. You know, all you see in prison are straight white men.
Starting point is 00:17:00 You know what I'm just realizing that this is the same comment by Robert Jenrick that has led to the reversal of sentencing reforms that we discussed in our episode about pregnancy in prison. Wait, what? Okay, so a couple of weeks ago, right,
Starting point is 00:17:16 we had Janie Starling on from the campaign group Level Up who had been running a campaign for no births behind bars. And if you remember, they were celebrating a recent campaign win. Yeah. Which would have required magistrates
Starting point is 00:17:31 and judges to consult a pre-sentence report before deciding whether to imprison pregnant women because as we heard on the episode if you sentence a pregnant woman to prison you sentence her to a high risk pregnancy. So this was in the new sentencing guidelines and it was a common sense evidence-led policy led by criminal justice experts
Starting point is 00:17:54 but instead now it has fallen once again to the bottom of the pile because of culture wars and because of this comment about two-tier policing And we have to remember that the two-tier policing slogan was created by Tommy Robinson from last year's summer riots, which claimed that white far-right protesters were treated more harshly than ethnic minorities. It is so pathetic how the Labour government is capitulating to click-bate cultural politics, rather than standing by, as you've just described, evidence-backed, long-awaited reforms that God knows how. How many people with lived experience, experts, charities have campaigned and developed for years.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Mm-hmm. And it also just shows how counterproductive, like clickbait media can be to actual evidence-based progress in social policy. Yeah. Talking about the strength of the anti-migrant agenda, did you see that Marjorie Taylor Green, a US Republican House representative and well-known MAGA defender? told a British Sky News journalist during a press conference last Wednesday, we don't care about the UK and to go back to the UK. Hashtag, go back to where you came from. Anybody else?
Starting point is 00:19:16 What country are you? Wait, what country are you from? From the UK? Okay, we don't give a crap about your opinion and you're reporting. Why don't you go back to your country where you have a major migrant problem? No, no, no, no, you should care about your own borders. Do you care about American lives? No, no, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Do you care about people from your country? What about all the women that are raped by migrants? Do you care about that? No, do you care? Okay, you're done. Do you care about American lives being put up? You know what I know? I don't care about service members fighting for your country.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I don't care about your fake news. Do you have a relevant question? Yeah, this is an American journalist. Thank you. Now, listen, what I found interesting about this was that everyone and the media focused on the whole the U.S. doesn't care about the UK thing. But can we talk about the fact that the reason Marjorie Taylor Green
Starting point is 00:20:04 claims to not care about the UK is because we have too many migrants and they're all rapists and criminals. Honestly, I know that this is something so many people now genuinely fear and I know this partly because I actually get repeatedly accused on social media of not caring about women being raped
Starting point is 00:20:22 because I stand up for like male refugees and yes, people's fears need to be heard but I have done this fact check so many times I did it on media storm some weeks ago looking at the global data on migrant crime and showing how deliberate and false a narrative this is. By now, I just find it honestly so upsetting to talk about
Starting point is 00:20:41 because every time it's mentioned, it hurts good men who have been through way too much shit already. No, and I absolutely agree with you, but also bear with me because she honestly goes on to just totally undermine her own argument. Okay, I'm listening. So the clip continues, and she tries to pass on to an American journalist,
Starting point is 00:21:00 but then this American journalist is like, Hi, I also want to know the answer to the question that the Sky News British journalist asked, which is a question about Signalgate, right? The colossal cock up when elite U.S. security personnel added a journalist to a group chat about how they were going to top secretly bomb Yemen. Oopsy Daisy. So the journalists asked Marjorie Taylor Green about, you know, the massive holes that this points to in National Security Protocol.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I'm an American and I'd like to hear your answer to, what she's asking. I'm not answering her question because I don't care about her network. If you would like to ask, I can answer. You have any concerns whatsoever about the complete disregard of operational security from the top level of this administration? You want to know about complete disregard about operational security? You should talk about the Biden administration and how they ripped our borders open to terrorist, cartel, child sex trafficking, human trafficking and drug trafficking across our borders for four years. Surprise, that's also migrants' fault.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Oh my God, it's also migrants' faults. Why did no one say this before? It's so simple. It's their fault for coming here, so we send them away, but then it's their fault for being there, so we bond them over there, even though that'll probably make them come here to avoid the bombs. But it's fine, it'll make sense because it's just all migrants' fault.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Total sense. But it really just shows how strong the first. far-right anti-migrant narrative is. That's what I took away from this, that this is the thing. The anti-migrant narrative is the thing that a US representative chose to sum up the UK with. How weak does the political leadership need to be
Starting point is 00:22:45 to scapegoat, especially vulnerable people, for all their errors. And pointing the finger to the point of piss-taking has been the post-Signalgate playbook. One final story before. the break, wrapping up a hefty section on scapegoating ethnic minorities for all the world's problems. Sky News's Sophie Ridge interviewed Jeremy Corbyn last week. Here's a question she asked. You say that anti-Semitism is evil, that it's wrong. You are also a member of the Independent
Starting point is 00:23:18 Alliance Party. It's a group. A group. Yes, apologies. A grouping. Just to look at some of the examples of people in the grouping, Ayub Khan resigned from the Lib Dems after being ordered to undertake anti-Semitism training, which he disagreed with. Adnan Hussein, at a rally in 24, 2014, claimed Israel's military operation was a holocaust. Mohamed Iqbal was suspended from labour after allegedly making anti-Semitic comments at a meeting. I guess what I'm trying to say is, you know, if you feel it is wrong that you have been expelled from labour for these reasons, You're not really helping the case for the defence here, are you? Sophie Ridge claimed that Corbyn's co-runner, Iqbal Muhammad,
Starting point is 00:24:07 was a Labour counsellor who resigned over anti-Semitism allegations. So, yes, Corbyn is running with Iqbal Mohammed. But Iqbal Mohammed was not a Labour counsellor and he has never resigned over anti-Semitism allegations, but it appears Sophie Ridge has confused him with a totally different but also brown, also Muslim MP, called Muhammad Iqbal. Stop it. No, no, you're actually joking.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I'm not joking. That is horrendous. So embarrassing. That is horrendous. Sky has removed that clip from the interview and apparently issued an apology. But here's what the real Iqbal Muhammad had to say. Can the real Iqbal Mohammed please stand up? Iqbal Mohammed, who is running alongside Jeremy Corbyn as an independent MP, told Middle East Eye,
Starting point is 00:25:02 the ease with which the mainstream media throw around baseless allegations of anti-Semitism against those critical of Israel's genocidal actions against the Palestinians is deeply concerning and shameful. Right, because this is not just a case of all brown people look alike and have the same names. This is also calling Muslims anti-Semitic, basically, painting. Muslims as inherently incompatible with Western values, which is something we talked about in our episode on Islamophobia with Rizwana Hamid from the Centre for Media Monitoring, which promotes fair, accurate and responsible reporting about Muslims and Islam.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And here's what she said about the media's complicity in these stereotypes. When it comes to online news, almost 60% of the stories around Muslims and Islam are negative. In broadcast, it's almost 50%. You know, over a third misrepresent or generalise about Muslims and Islam. You know, tropes like Islam is a threat to the West that Islamic values aren't compatible with Western values, that Muslims are terrorist. You know, Muslims are misogynistic.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And so it's a very distorted image of who Muslims are and what the religion is. The drip-drip narratives that come out, not just off the press, but what politicians spout over the years has given carte blanche to people to be Islamophobic and not be held to account. And whereas they existed on the dark corners of the web, maybe a decade ago on far right platforms, we've seen those slowly being mainstreamed. They're Islamophobic, but they're mainstream. Let's take a break. TdBank knows that running a small business is a journey, from startup to growing and managing your business.
Starting point is 00:27:03 That's why they have a dedicated small business advice hub on their website to provide tips and insights on business banking to entrepreneurs. No matter the stage of business you're in, visit td.com slash small business advice to find out more or to match with a TD small business banking account manager. My next News Watch story is about the apparent random attacks on Bournemouth Beach. A man has been jailed for attacking two women in a horrendous stabbing on Bournemouth Beach last May. Amy Gray, who was 34, was murdered.
Starting point is 00:27:45 She died at the scene. And Leanne Miles, her friend, was seriously injured in the attack, but managed to survive despite having 20 knife. wounds. What we know now is that the murder was premeditated. So the perpetrator did not know these two women, but his desire to carry out a murder was backed up by extensive planning. He had travelled from South London to Bournemouth. On his laptop, investigators found internet searches for deadliest knife, for why is it harder for a criminal to be caught if he does it in another town? And what hotels don't have CCTV in the UK?
Starting point is 00:28:23 He'd also looked up Bournemouth-C-TV just days before the murder took place obviously not very well because his attack was literally caught on CCTV. He had a fascination with and a collection of knives. He used the name Ninja Killer
Starting point is 00:28:43 on his Snapchat account and he was a criminology student at the University of Greenwich and he actually asked a course lecturer how to get away with murder and this course lecturer said to him you're not planning a murder are you so this is how much we know now
Starting point is 00:29:01 you just also know someone's already writing the screen play for this this man had also carried out multiple online searches about other murders but specific murders such as Millie Dowler a 13 year old who was murdered by a notorious serial killer
Starting point is 00:29:17 and more recently he had searched for details about the murder of Brianna Jai The judge's words during the sentencing of this man were very clear and I want to read them out. The judge said, It seems you have felt humiliated and rejected for any advances you have made towards girls which has led over time to a deeply suppressed rage
Starting point is 00:29:40 towards society and women in particular. This defendant seems to have wanted to know what it would be like to take life. Perhaps he wanted to know what it would be like to make women feel afraid Perhaps he thought it would make him feel powerful, make him interesting to others. The prosecuting lawyer also said the murder was premeditated, with the defendant's misogyny as a possible motive,
Starting point is 00:30:05 and she added there was clear evidence of this man's difficulties with women and misogyny. Now I'll read some of the media headlines about the attack. True crime fan, guilty of random beach murders. student killer guilty of senseless beach murder man who brutally murdered woman on Bournemouth Beach in random attack is convicted okay I see the issue after everything you've just laid out about this man
Starting point is 00:30:37 this attack doesn't seem random at all in fact it's so far from random it's textbook what I don't understand is that the judge set out very clearly what motivated this man to pick two women to attack so why are the media still saying it's random? Right, and look
Starting point is 00:30:55 I understand that his choice of victims were random in the sense that he did not personally know these two women but he literally asked a university professor how to murder and get away with it. So the fact he was murdering was not random and he deliberately selected
Starting point is 00:31:11 his victims based on the fact they were women. So his choice of victim is not random And this phrasing is dangerous, once again depicting these well-documented pathways to femicide as out of the blue and reducing the severity of the crime by suggesting it was not a deliberate decision. By the way, we saw the exact same thing when Bieber Henry and Nicole Smallman were murdered. Two sisters murdered in London in 2020. The perpetrator who killed them had been explicitly plotting to murder six women,
Starting point is 00:31:47 and the media reported the murders of these two sisters to be at random. These are crimes motivated by misogyny. And no headlines are identifying the gendered element of the crime. In fact, a lot of them are sensationalising the story, playing into the true crime narrative that this man was so obsessed with in the first place. A lot of headlines focus on this man as a true crime fan or the fact he was a criminology student, details which are in no way as important as the gendered nature of this crime
Starting point is 00:32:20 or the life of the victim, Amy Gray, but details which I'm sure media outlets will know will real readers in to click on. Yeah, like, as I pointed out when you were describing the details, there's a screenplay in that. We have a massive culture of dramatising exactly those details of this social problem. And by doing that, the media are giving this man exactly what he was.
Starting point is 00:32:45 This man who murdered Amy Gray, who critically injured Leanne Miles, wants notoriety. Okay? How do we know this? He had searched for previous cases of femicide and famous serial killers. The court was also told that he touched himself sexually in his prison cell before the trial after he asked a female prison officer how much publicity the case was getting. Oh, this is nauseating. So as well as craving the power to kill a woman, he craved notoriety.
Starting point is 00:33:20 He literally wanted to be known for this. And so then I'm left asking, you know, how do journalists, how do we report on this? Because it is in the public interest as an event. But how do we do it without giving him exactly what he wants, giving him the attention he's so desperately craves? Well, I've just given you the whole story, but do you know his name? Oh, you're so clever. No.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Okay. Well, there you go. Look, there are ways for the media to give the public the details they need and to hold this perpetrator to account without repeatedly giving his name. I understand, obviously, at some point they will report his name. But they do not have to repeatedly do so. And they do not have to splash his image all over the front pages like he so desperately and clearly wants.
Starting point is 00:34:10 No. Like if he's behind bars, then we don't need to know what he looks like. Exactly. These points are all in Level Up's guidelines for the media. And once again, if you're a journalist or an editor listening, please contact me to get Level Up to come and deliver a free one-hour training on providing dignity for dead women when reporting. Or if you're a listener and you've got a favourite news outlet,
Starting point is 00:34:32 please email that outlet and ask them to reach out to level up for training. But to round up this story and this section, Here's what Janie Starling, co-founder of Level Up, had to say on a previous episode of Media Storm about cases just like this one. I think one of the most disturbing things that I've heard throughout the course of working with families is work closely with brothers called Luke and Ryan Hart, whose mum, Claire and Sister Charlotte were murdered by their father in 2016. Now, when the police seized their father's computer, they found preceding the murders. he had been searching for articles online of men who had killed their families. He was seeking justification for what he was about to do
Starting point is 00:35:16 and he wanted to know how he would be reported on. And he found a lot of validation. He found a lot of, you know, what he was feeling actually being justified in the press. So it is really important to remember that there could be future perpetrators reading your report and finding sympathy for their cause in your reporting. And I don't think any journalist would ever intend that or want to. that but without sensitivity and without understanding it happens while we are on the topic of murders motivated by misogyny let me tell you something i learned yesterday what's that
Starting point is 00:35:56 adolescence is a true story actually it's lots of true stories i learned this reading and interview feature with the show's writer jack thorn in the new york times he said he started working on adolescence about two and a half years ago when Stephen Graham, who's the actor who plays the dad, contacted him to say that he'd been shocked by a series of murders in the UK in which boys and young man had stabbed girls to death. Do you remember this? I mean, not explicitly, but I can think of many cases reading about where a boy killed a girl and watching adolescents reminded me of a lot of those cases. I guess not a stream of them back-to-back. Yeah, and to connect the dots, you have to do lots of individual searches,
Starting point is 00:36:41 you know, filter through various local news sites. But it turns out he's right. Around that period, there was Ava White, aged 12, stabbed by a 15-year-old boy. Elian Andam, aged 15, stabbed by a 17-year-old boy, Lillia Valluti, nine, stabbed by a 24-year-old male. By the way, not migrant men, Marjorie Taylor Green. It continues. I mean, we remind ourselves of the Southport stabbing in which an A teen-year-old male teen stabbed a number of girls and women. Just a couple of weeks ago, a 15-year-old boy was guilty of attempted murder of a 14-year-old girl after stabbing her ten times with a samurai-style sword near hull.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh, this is painful to here. I just don't know why the dots are not connected for us. Because these aren't isolated incidents. They're a social endemic. And as long as we paint them as freak crimes committed by freak individuals, we fail to look at social culpability. Totally. So I want to share a quote from the New York Times interview feature
Starting point is 00:37:42 that has stayed with me. Jack Thorn said that while adolescence highlights the role of social media in radicalising young boys, it doesn't point to it as a single cause. He says in adolescence, the boys' school is underfunded and teachers are too stressed and overwork to stop bullying. The police are ignorant of how teenagers talk to each other and the boys' family and friends were oblivious to what he was capable of.
Starting point is 00:38:05 There is an old saying that it takes a village to raise a child, but it also takes a village to destroy a child. He just wanted adolescents to persuade that village to help these kids. This is telling, and this is exactly why so many educators and workshop facilitators are against simply showing adolescents in schools. Jack Thorne said it there, right? He wants to persuade the village. This is a show made for adults, not for kids.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. Also, I'm all for adolescents. But we need to elevate the voices of educators. And like I'm actually a little bit fucked off about this because people who have been working in this space for decades are still being ignored. But then it's like some men make a TV show and now they're getting all the attention.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It's just not very media storm, okay? I'm not happy with it. Sorry, sorry. But also like on that note, if there are people listening and they're wondering who to listen to on this issue, I just want to throw out a few names. So please go and check out the work of Beyond Equality,
Starting point is 00:39:09 of Nathaniel Cole, of Lewis Wedlock, of Gina Martin, of Laura Bates, of Eliza Hatch from Cheer Up Love, of David Challan, of This Ends Now, and please check out an open letter, started by Dr Jessica Taylor from Victim Focus, urging the government to understand that this knee-jerk reaction of just showing adolescents in schools
Starting point is 00:39:33 and expecting teachers to cope with, it is not a holistic and well-thought-out response. We'll put the open letter in the show notes. Time for eyes on Palestine. Today we bring you the grim story of the discovery of a mass grave in southern Gaza, which indicates the potentially targeted mass killing by Israel of Palestinian doctors. The intentional targeting of medical personnel is a war crime under international law. How much Evidence is there that this has happened. You could say it's damning. On Sunday, the mass grave was discovered by UN humanitarian workers in Raffa
Starting point is 00:40:14 after an eight-day search for 15 missing humanitarian workers who disappeared on a rescue mission last week. Yeah, I read about their disappearance. They were medics with the Red Crescent Society and Palestinian civil defence. What happened to them? Well, after days of being blocked from reaching the place they had seemingly disappeared by Israeli forces,
Starting point is 00:40:37 the UN eventually negotiated entry. They found that ambulances crushed near a burial site where the bodies were recovered. The excavation of the site was captured on camera by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. Oh, God. Did they find out what happened? From the states of their bodies, what they pieced together was shared by traumatized family members
Starting point is 00:41:02 with Middle East Eye, who said their loved ones had been seized, unarmed, while carrying medical supplies to civilians under attack. They were then taken to a bunker where they were blindfolded, had their hands tied, were interrogated, and shot in cold blood before being buried in the unmarked mass grave. I can't believe that this is just something that happens and it's not front-page news or even that it's even happening in the first place.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Look, if Israeli forces were then blocking rescue groups from the site, doesn't that indicate a cover-up? I mean, there are accusations of that by multiple international humanitarian groups, including the Red Cross, who lost members here, the Red Crescent is part of the Red Cross. But notably, these condemnations are not being echoed by our political leaders. Has Israel responded? Honestly, not really.
Starting point is 00:42:09 They certainly have not denied what's happened, although the Israeli army has of course claimed that among the humanitarian workers killed were terrorists. Sometimes I feel like covering the news is just saying the same old stories over and over again. Thank you for listening. Tomorrow we are looking at the topic of revenge porn or, as our guests argue, it should be called
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