Megalithic Marvels - Ancient Apocalypse 2: Episode 3 Review

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

The second season of the much anticipated and highly controversial Ancient Apocalypse docuseries has been released on Netflix featuring author and explorer Graham Hancock. This season focuses on ancient sites located in the Americas, and Graham opens episode 1 asking “Could the key to discovering a lost civilization of the Ice Age lie here in the Americas?” In this episode, friend and explorer Stephen Toma joins me to recap episode 3 which finds Graham on mysterious Easter Island (Rapa Nui) in the first half of the episode where he talks about the lost language of the island. The second half of the show features Graham in Cusco visiting colossal Sacsayhuaman as well as a little known site known as the Snake Temple. What did we think? What was our favorite parts? Watch to find out! 2025 PERU &/or EASTER ISLAND TOUR

Stargate Voyager. Well, I am excited to have my friend Stephen Toma back on the show. We did an episode just a couple weeks ago, breaking down ancient apocalypse season two, episode one. And Stephen is back by popular demand to help me recap episode three. Bro, how you doing, man? I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good.

It's been a lot of fun to watch these episodes and to, I'm learning stuff. It's great. I'm learning a lot of stuff. Yeah, not only is it entertaining, but we are learning lots. And this is just kind of something new and different and fresh. I thought we would try

as just recapping each episode of Ancient Apocalypse Season 2 that's out on Netflix. It's quite controversial, as I've been stating. If you get on Twitterverse or on the internet, there's a whole population of the history world that is up in arms about this show because they think it's basically touting disinformation, which has got to be one of the most overused words of the last couple years.

And if you don't know who Graham Hancock is, he is a former journalist. He's a British gentleman. And over the years, he's written several very popular books. like America before, fingerprints of the gods, and many others. And so he's considered one of the true pioneers of the ancient alternative history movement, which is basically guys like us that believe there's more to history than we've been told. And so that's kind of what this whole ancient Apocalypse docus series is about, is asking questions. Is there more than we've been told?

So we've done two previous episodes breaking down this dokey series. I would encourage you to go back on my channels wherever you're watching this and find our recap of episode one and two so that you can really enjoy three. And before we jump into this, just a quick reminder for everybody to subscribe to this podcast wherever you are watching or listening. Give us a five-star review if you can. It really helps us to claim the algorithms. And last but not least, join us for our 2025 Peru and or Easter Island tour. And here we are in this episode talking about Peru and Easter Island. And so just a quick plug to join me and renowned Peruvian tour guide, Rumi Allegria,

on a captivating journey that delves into intriguing mysteries of some of the world's most enigmatic and iconic sites. It's competitively priced, very competitively priced, and it's thoughtfully designed to include a pre-tour of Paracas, to see the elongated schools, the Nazca Lines, and then a main tour focusing on Kusko, like Soxsebaman, the site we're going to talk about in just a few minutes, and Machu Picchu, and then we have an optional extension to Mysterious Easter Island. And so this tour is created so that you can do the whole thing or just participate in the segments you want. And right now you can get $500 off for a limited time by using code Stargate. So you just click the link in the show notes to go to the website or go to Stargate voyager.com slash tours. Steve and Bing that you went with me to Peru this year, is there a quick thought you want to share with people that are thinking about joining us? I was certainly there, yes, that's true. And whenever I speak about my trip to Peru, everyone thinks I just kind of went to different cities and, you know, ate good food and saw the museums and stuff.

But I said, no, I went on a curated tour to visit all of the megalithic ruins, all of the mysterious artifacts and walls and, and, and anomalies that are found, you know, all over Peru. And people were like, I didn't even know that you could do that. That sounds amazing. And it's triggered me personally to, if I ever, you know, once when I travel again, it's got to include some sort of megalithic ancient component to it. If I go to Japan, I got to see this stuff there. If I go to Cambodia, if I go to, obviously,

Egypt, but it's changed my life. It's changed the way I travel. Life changing, Derek. It's life changing. So don't take it from me. Take it from Stephen. And again, what's cool is you join me on a Peru tour. And now here we are doing several episodes together on the podcast. So really cool. Just the friends you meet, the community. And so let's jump into this episode, Ancient Apocalypse, Season 2, Episode 3, starts out, and like you, we were talking before off air, they've done this season different, where each episode overlaps with the other, right? So episode two ends with Graham and Easter Island. Episode three begins with Graham still on Easter Island. And Graham starts out the episode by saying, we need to re-examine the prehistory of Easter Island. And then he asked the question,

might there be a forgotten episode in the story of this island, an earlier chapter written by survivors of the global cataclysm? And then Graham begins to investigate where the ancients might have lived on the island along the coast. Stephen, do you want to tell us anything about that part that you remember? So they lived like we do all over the world. They lived on the coast and then experienced up to 400 feet of,

sea level rise, which, you know, they must have put most of the, or they must have put at least, you know, plenty of the moai up at the top of the mountain at the top of the hill. And then they all lived down at the bottom. And so once sea level rose, we just lost all indication of that portion of their civilization. And we're just left with all the mysterious statues at the top of the hill. So yeah, pretty fascinating. Yeah, so Graham theorizes if the ancients live near the coastline and the island was much larger, this means theoretically the island could have supported a much more larger population, which might explain this massive building project they pulled off.

And then he jumps into the Rappanoi legends, which I always find fascinating. I love hearing the ancient oral traditions of how they're going. great founder, this King Hota Matua, brought something special with him from that far off land of Heva, which is a written language. Stephen, tell us about this written language. Then they say it's too complicated to be letters, and so it's kind of more along the lines of a hieroglyph, or a pictograph, where it's made up of pictures, and they can kind of, the experts, have a understanding of how it's read and some of the concepts possibly behind the artifacts that remain but it's still a mystery it's still they can't quite

decipher what it says but it it it's a big contradiction to what we know about Easter Island and the population there that that any sort of written language takes a long time to iron out the details, takes a big population in order to encourage something like that, and a high level of intellect over a long period of time that allows them to kind of put something like that together. So language kind of stands alone as this anomaly, because it's very complicated based on, you know, compared to the population of the island and how long they were there. So, This written language is known as the Rongo Rongo Rongo.

And it's like hieroglyphs embedded on these wooden tablets, but Graham points out these are likely copies of copies passed down over the generations. And through the ages, the originals were lost to history. And therefore, the ability to read these mysterious tablets was lost. So all that's left are some memories and songs that some of the elders have that are connected to some of these symbols. but to actually read it, no one's been able to break the code. So Graham then wonders, or he says, we should consider the possibility that the script was first brought

to Easter Island in remote prehistory, not just a thousand years ago. And from the original explorers who were said to have come from a much larger land off the Pacific called Heva. Hiva. So he connects the dots to if this lost length was brought by prehistory of megalithic builders were the moai also the product of a lost civilization so that was fascinating and then next you go to this ahuvanapu megalithic wall what were your thoughts on that well based on all of the things that we saw uh all across peru um and when we

popped over to bolivia for the day um you know that sort of wall construction you know, still baffles, that baffles our tour guides, that baffles us, anybody that takes a closer look at some of these mortarless, you know, multi-ton stone walls, just they don't know how they were put together. And there's no, and what was neat that they spoke about, that Graham mentioned that the seams between the stones were so thin that they were unable, to get any sort of organic remains in order sort of to test the wall. And I assume that that's the problem all over the world,

that these walls were built so precisely that nothing else is able to fit in between them. And it makes it difficult for us to be able to put a date to them. So yeah, Graham is looking at this Ahu-Vanapu wall, which is made of basalt. So that's a much stronger material than the tough, the volcanic tough that the statues themselves are made of. It's that softer. And so Graham points out that this megalithic wall called Ahu Van Apu is quite superior in its engineering compared to these other platforms, which look like walls. Yeah.

A lot of the Moa are standing on, right? Those are archaic. they're not mortarless. You can see it's just like big stones kind of packed together, and they even have some recycled moai heads in there as stones, to where this is just like you'd see in Kusko. And then it's even got the small interlocking block in the center, which is kind of like a signature of the megalithic engineers.

So I cannot wait to see this wall when we go to Peru this May. I mean Easter Island, and I hope you guys will join me. Before we leave Easter Island, I wanted to point out something else I found in some of my studies. Let's hear it. The first explorers to Easter Island were Dutch explorers named Jacob Rogavine. And that was in 1722. And so he was originally on his way to find the fabled land called Tara Australia. Australia

Australia's Instead he finds Easter Island Which he named that Because his ship landed there on Easter Sunday April 5th Of 1722 Obviously we know

The Polynesian name for it is Rappanui But it's interesting I love reading old Undoctored Reports by these explorers So Rogovine in his In his journals He reported seeing

what he called 3,000 natives covered in tattoos, body paint, feathers, and ears so long that they hung down as far as their shoulders. And these 3,000 natives, he said, were performing strange ritual-type worship around fire in front of the giant statues. And imagine that scene, right? You're the first explorer to this island. and this is what you see, this strange ceremonial worship in front of these massive statues. But then there was something else that Rogovin documented, which I'd find very fascinating. He writes about how the giant Moai statues were served by what he called a priesthood, of very large looking men who he said, quote,

had remarkably white skin, long ears, and red hair. Well, the rest of the population appeared to be of a mixed descent and did not venerate the statues as the priests did. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, what, I mean,

that kind of ties into Incas, right, that had the, they were confused as conquistadors, You know, the conquisadors they thought were these, you know, bringers of civilization back, they've come back. Yeah, there was also reports I found of missionaries who were on the island in the 1800s. One of them had some writings. His name was Father Gaspar'd Zumbom.

And he documented that, and this was in the 1800s, that in the former times these high priests, so he wrote about these high priests as well, he said the high priest, eight children in the name of their God make make. And then excavations on the landward side of Ahu, Nanao, revealed the charred human bones from cannibalistic rituals. My point in sharing this is, based on some of these reports from Rogavine and these missionaries, we have multiple accounts of this class of priests who are almost described, again, as different than the main population. And again, Rogavine describes them as very large with white skin, long ears, and red hair. And they appear to be cannibalistic. So pretty crazy history

about Rapa Nui, and I think there's so much more here than we've been told. I wrote a three-piece investigative series on Stargatevojury.com that you can go there and just type an Easter Island, it'll pop up, and it's got all of these crazy things I found from reading these ship logs of explorers. So that was the Easter Island part. Steve, and anything else you want to say about Easter Island before we leave and go to where Graham traveled next. No, but I think it's cool that you're diving deep and finding these

firsthand accounts. I would write the truth. If I was out in a deserted ship coming across these strange islands, I would document it as well as I can. Just like when I journal, I'm not rattling off lies throughout my journal.

I'm telling it how it is. I assume the same thing's going on for them. You're not rattling off lies, hoping that whoever finds this journal in 300 years will be fooled. So next, Graham travels from Easter Island to the Peruvian coast to see the giant geoglyph known as the Candle-Abra. And I got to see this back in 2017 for the first time. It is an incredible sight to behold,

and it literally is massive. I can't remember exactly how tall and wide, but in a boat from the coast, you see this thing in the distance. It's this massive trident. And as Graham points out, it's almost like an enormous beacon saying, come here. And it's said to have been inspired by Viracocha, who we can talk about, who's one of the most famous Incan deities. According to Incan lore, you know, this Viracocha, emerged from Lake Titicaca, where he taught his followers and the survivors of what Graham believes is the great apocalypse, the secrets of farming, advanced skills, stonework, and how to track

the heavens. Stephen, anything you want to share about Virokocho or anything you learned like that on our Peru trip? Along the same lines as the, no pun intended, but the Nazca lines, right, where you have just these massive images embedded into the ground.

In this instance, you can see it because it's on the side of a mountain. But it kind of follows the same I don't know if it's a communication style or if it's, but it kind of just adds to that mystery of them making giant

pictures in the ground. Graham then made a, I thought was a great point. He said, knowledge is passed on in the form of myths. Myths of humanity are the memory bank of our species. And so Graham wonders out loud if he's great teachers like Viracocha could be among the few survivors of a civilization, you know, that was survived the ancient apocalypse. I thought that was a very interesting thought to consider. And I wanted to then bring up something I've been learning on the last couple of Peru trips about the three tiers of Viracocha. So let me start by saying the Inca called, you know, him Vera Cocha. The Mayans called him Quetzakato, but they believed Veracota, the Inca was, you know, created all living things. His name

translates the sea foam. And again, he's thought to have emerged from Lake Titicaca. But the plumed serpent deities, which Veracotia was, were not just worshipped as distant gods, but they were, again, credited with the founding of their civilizations, giving secret knowledge, living among the people before they departed over the sea. And it's crazy. And some reports, these deities like Veraccia literally manifested as white skin, light skin, tall guys with blue eyes. And so let me just break down real quick the three tiers of the Veracotia.

So the first tier is, you know, you've got this vera coacha we're talking about, which is like the supreme creator deity that the Inko worshipped. And their legends also say he destroyed evil giants with a flood. But then during the epoch after this great cataclysm that obliterated the old world, the survivors were living in darkness. And this is when number two comes, the vera coaches are. arrived. So again, the tier one is like this creator god, tier two is like actual these manifested guys who show up with white skin, beards, cloaks, and staffs in their hands. Their leaders often called Contiki Veracocha. And again, some accounts say they have blue eyes, but they went throughout the Andes to the survivors and began civilizing them before they disappeared over the sea

and said they would one day return. And then you've got the third tier, which is there are some Quechuan legends that state that there are still Vera coaches living underneath the Andes. And they even report sometimes encountering these viricoches who appear to them. They even say sometimes in like shiny discs with gold hair. they speak telepathically, they heal the sick, and then they disappears. So Graham ends episode three going to one of our favorite places on earth. Kusko and Soxay-Waman, the great megalithic fortress. Stephen, I'm going to let you start.

What did you see an experience in this episode? And how did it, what was it like based off you being there recently? It really, I mean, it helped me to understand Graham's reaction to visiting Saxe Woman, where I think he speaks to the camera saying, I've been here many times, I've been coming here for years, and every time it just blows my mind, you know, because it's a sight to behold. I mean, it's exquisite in pictures, but actually being there. and seeing just how massive the site is. The zigzagged, megalithic walls are just pretty much one of a kind. I mean, you don't see stones that big that are fashioned in that way. And they speak of the sheer age to what, you know, what was going on in that area.

I watched it with my mom, and I freeze-framed it. I paused it and I said, look, you see that the ancient stone, of Sexe-Wamon, but then you see areas where there's missing stones and there's been repairs, presumably by the Inkins that occupied the place with the rough, the rough smaller stones and the mud mortar. So it's hard for us to determine, you know, did the Inca's build this? But why did they make the repairs in such a crude fashion and sort of throwing up the big stones again? And so the comparison, you know, and that's, that was a big theme of our trip was to kind of see the comparisons, especially up in Machu Picchu, where it's a vast and intricate and beautiful Incan,

inken site, but there's remnants of unexplained mortarless stone structures up there, especially at the top with, you know, 100 ton blocks that are just, up there and and that's that gives the that gives the extended timeline that we are that us megalithic chasers are hungry for right um but sexa-wamontad there there's there's areas where those big wild huge stone walls are repaired with smaller megalithic mortarless stone that there's areas where they they've needed to repair repair that ancient giant wall with other mysterious building style, which is kind of the flatter or the smaller stone, but it's still kind of cut to fit. It still has no space in between the stones.

Like Graham says, it almost appears like they've been melted together. Yet when you get up close to them, I can assure you they are each individual blocks. you know sometimes when I post videos or pictures people will say those are that's just really one big blob that they've kind of just etched to look like individual no they're individual

and some of these blocks are 120 plus tons and that's just what you see above ground some of them go 20 feet under all of them go 20 feet underground so these are massive in scale and according to the mainstream timeline narrative. Soxamo Oman was built in 1440 by the Inca Emperor Pachucati. These feel and look way more ancient. And so Graham himself states, you know, it doesn't make sense that these massive walls

could have been made by the Inca with their crude, cruder stone tools. No, he didn't say crude. That's my word. I got to give Graham props. You know, you can tell he's doing everything possible to share both sides. So like obviously he always ends on the alternative side, which is he believes he's have got to be older. Yet he's interviewing this, you know, I don't know if he was an archaeologist, but the expert at Soxiawaman, who is basically touting the mainstream narrative. You know, when Graham asked him, that's exactly what he said. This is built in 1440 and by this, this Inca emperor. And so he's trying to, you know,

he's trying to give well-rounded information so people can decide for themselves. But it was interesting. Did you notice that by the end of talking with that guy, he got him to admit that there was lost technology and that this might be way older? Yeah. But Sexo Woman, it's just, it's just big,

you know, mammoth-sized, you know, almost kind of girthy, you know, building style where it's you know it's it's just there's nothing else like it and it if there's nothing else like it then you have to make adjustments for for what was what's going on there you know we spent half the half the day that day poking around you know the the what looks like you know thrones for giants that that it's just kind of the smooth rectangular cut out in the side of a or the side of a of a rock face. And it's like, you know, you can't explain that either.

You can't explain, you can't say that that's cut out in the 1400s because, you know, we just don't see anything like that from the 1400s going on. But that whole site, Sex and Woman, what a wild place. You know, being there, I was able to see the stuff that isn't usually covered, right? the across the across the field from

the famous walls is just that odd natural formation of the curved the curved stone that looks like they're rolling hills what an odd and it looked like that was kind of part of this place because they had

megalithic stone walls kind of terracing that that side of the complex just the whole place was just such a crazy mystery. It looks like an old, I mean, let's get out, let's go get out there and get speculative, but I kept seeing kind of an old ancient stone spaceship that had crashed landed. What if it was, Derek, what if it was an ancient spaceship that had crashed there?

Oh, we're really getting out there now. I love that. Hey, you mentioned giants. This isn't me saying this. This is the ancient legends. So the Quechuan legend, legend state that the site of Soxio-O-Mond was built by erasid giants. And when the Spanish arrived and saw this colossal site, and they saw the walls, they were so impressed that they didn't even believe that the natives could build them, according to some reports I've seen. And then when asked, the natives never claimed to have built them, but said they were already here.

And it's also important to note that elongated skulls have been unearthed at Soxie Waman. And then, as you're going up to the upper courses of Soxie Waman, it's different than other sites, like at Machu Picchu, for example. Or if you're going upstairs, it's for the gate of a normal six-foot human. when you're going up the big giant flights at Soxie Oman, it's for the gate of like a 15-foot entity. I'm just saying. So when you're walking down these steps, it's not easy. It's not hard to go up them because you've got to take these massive steps.

Crazy to consider. Something else I wanted to point out about Soxay-O-Man. The only record we have of the Inca attempting to move a huge megalith was preserved by a Spanish chronicler a few decades after the conquest. And according to the account that was given by local informants, there was 20,000 Inkins attempting to move a giant boulder, transporting it over this hill when it slipped from their grip and it literally crushed 3,000 men killing them all rather quickly.

So Graham asks if this is true about them having this much trouble transporting one stone, how could they have then brought it, brought thousands of them over? And something I got to point out is even if you do think they could transport them, you know, thousands of megaton blocks, some that weigh 100 tons, and you need a literal army to haul them, The crazy part most people don't think about is like Stephen, when you're looking at these blocks, and you see how a 100-ton block is so perfectly fit to a microscopic level with all the other blocks around it. How are the 20,000 guys lifting this all perfectly setting it in place where it's perfectly precision?

How do you time it to where everybody's got to pull out? their fingers at the exact moment for the block to set in place, you know? Thank you. 20,000 people's fingers holding the block. Someone's got to be like, okay, three, two, one, all the fingers out, and then, or else they would have, you would have had the same tragedy, just thousands of people lost all their fingers, our guide, roomy, who's going to be rolling around and dropping knowledge on your trip this year, or next year.

Rumio's saying the megalithic stone wall remains, the fact that they even exist in Kusko makes the fact that makes Kusko one of the oldest cities in the world. I love that fact. I didn't know when I joined up for the trip earlier this year that I would be going to possibly one of the oldest cities in the world

just based on what remains there. Yeah, great point because the whole city is literally built on these megalithic foundations and that brings me back to Soxiawa-Mond where Graham

theorizes, you know, was the Inca emperor who gets the credit for building Saxo-I-Man in 1440 actually just supervising the building of a project on top of the already megalithic walls that were there.

Because when you go to the top of the site, you see the circle that's up there, and you can clearly see that as an inferior construction method. It's smaller rough stones. It doesn't at all match the megalithic precision stones underneath

on the other layers. It clearly was put up there later. And I loved the 3D rendering they had of what Soxu I'm on likely looked like during the time of the ink on. I think it was pretty accurate. It showed massive foundational walls or megalithic that probably predated the Inca. And then you had their little hut on top that looked all nice. And they were geniusly repurposing this site and making it their own.

That's the key word. They were repurposing. I believe they were retrofitting this much, older site into their own. And that's what you see all over Peru is the Inca went wherever these ruins were and built on top of them because it only helped them defend themselves from invasions. And so then at the very end of episode three, he's going into the Temple of the Moon, a subterranean labyrinth, which I have been in. And in our next episode, I'm going to share what I encountered in there, which was pretty cool.

So everybody watching, stay tuned for our review of episode four. Stephen, any final thoughts? The final thought is kind of tying that the whole episode together, where we started talking about the sediment and the burial of the no-eye statues. And then you just kind of briefly mentioned that sexy woman, those walls go 20, 30 feet deep underground. And it kind of tells the same story, that age can be equated to the amount of change

that these areas have experienced, right? If the Moai statues are under 20, 30 feet of dirt and the Saxoamon walls are under 20, 30 feet of dirt, you can kind of, you know, understand that there's a big mass of time that these have been sitting on the planet. So yeah, kind of fascinating kind of tied all together. And we did that here on the podcast. Graham didn't find the time to put those two together.

Stephen, how can people follow you if they want to get to know you more than just this episode? Sure. Yeah, I run a little home inspection business here in Tulsa, Oklahoma, stable gables, inspection services. We have a lot of fun on my Instagram, Stable Gables, helping people in the home buying process and kind of interesting elements of home systems

along the way in educating homebuyers and homeowners alike. Follow Stephen, everybody. Thanks, bro. Let's do it.