Megalithic Marvels - Ancient Entities, Skinwalker Ranch & Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm / Chad Riley
Episode Date: January 20, 2024In this exclusive interview I am joined by researcher & film-maker Chad Riley, creator of the new documentary "Skinwalkers & Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm." In this episode we ...discuss a variety of topics covered in Chad's film, such as a little known discovery that was made in the late 1800s on top of Mt Hermon that may provide archaeological evidence to the Gen 6/ Book of Enoch account of the Watchers. We talk about the Nazi's obession with occult science, their search for ancient artifacts and their connection with the mysterious Vril Society - where certain members could write and translate Sumerian texts. We also talk about the legends surrounding the Nazi's secret bases in Antarctica. We end the interview diving deep into the history & mystery regarding the infamous Skinwalker Ranch where strange paranormal activity has occurred for decades. Get Chad's film here https://vimeo.com/ondemand/skinwalkerstrangerthings JOIN US FOR THE ADVENTURE OF A LIFETIME ON ONE OF OUR 2024 TOURS & LOCK IN EARLY BIRD PRICING WHILE YOU CAN https://stargatevoyager.com/tours/ GET ALL YOUR TRAVEL/ VIDEO GEAR DEALS HERE: https://www.amazon.com/shop/ancientex... FOLLOW US HERE: Blog: https://stargatevoyager.com/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpiPhZVveHua0fcikxo8wmQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stargatevoyager/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stargatevoyagerX/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/derek__olson Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ancientexpedition/
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Stargate Voyager.
I think we're looking again at a lost technology.
And it was this ancient apocalypse 12,800 years ago
that wiped that from the human memory backs.
Why were these ancient elongated, skull peoples, or humanoids,
of Malta living underground?
Now I believe we're talking prior to 9,700 BC
for the original construction of the sphinx.
And they were what some people,
have called giants probably no more than seven to eight feet tall. And those giants have been
pulled out of American mouths. Whether it's the colossal statue heads that have been on earth,
to all the strange artifacts you've been showing in the museums, to some of the strange
features they seem to possess, the more I learn about the Omet culture, really the more fascinated
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We're going to see these colossal megalithic statues.
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Well, I am really excited to be joined by a special guest today.
I've got researcher and filmmaker Chad Riley on with me today.
He is the creator of a new documentary called Skinwalkers and Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm.
Chad, thank you so much for joining me today.
Well, thank you.
It's a pleasure to be here with you today, Derek, and your followers as well.
And I look forward to getting into some of this with you today.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
We're going to talk about, as the title of your documentary says,
Skinwalkers, especially Skinwalker Ranch, because you go deep in that, the history of it.
We're going to get into talking about some strange artifacts found on top of Mount Hermon.
that might relate to Genesis 6 and the Nephilim,
and you even connect to Atlantis and the Nazis of all things.
So it's going to be a crazy episode.
But Chad, tell us a little bit about your journey that brought you to this place
where you are dedicating a lot of time to researching not just these topics,
but creating a two and a half hour long documentary about,
these incredible topics.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I started out doing the radio show
deception detection radio did that for about four and a half years
and then slowly but surely got into making documentaries.
Worked on the Hollow Earth Chronicles, Episode 1, the Dark Chambers.
I did a little bit of work on Belly of the Beast
and also higher entities, the Lost Tapes.
So this is my first standalone film that I've done completely all on my own.
and started out just trying to do a documentary on Skinwalker Ranch.
That's all I was going to do.
And as you can see, the research quickly ran in about a million different directions
and saw that so much of this stuff was all interconnected that by the time I got done
with my research, I had about 480 pages of notes that I had to whittle down to about 88 pages
and still came out right at about two and a half hours or two hours and 32 minutes.
So, yeah, it was definitely probably one of the most epic journeys I've been on.
It took me a year and a half to make.
And yeah, it's finally here.
It's finally out for everybody to enjoy.
It's crazy.
Like you said, you start researching a topic.
And, you know, because you want to be thorough.
And you just start going down all these other rabbit trails that connect.
Like in your case, you're talking about.
talking about Skin Walker Ranch.
But like you said, there's so many things that connect.
A year and a half actually sounds pretty short to me.
I'm surprised it only took you a year and a half to create this huge documentary.
So thank you for creating it.
And just tell our listeners, before we get into this, up close,
where can they find the documentary that we're going to talk about?
Where can they buy it and follow you and all that good stuff?
Well, I'm hopeful or I'm hoping that you're going to put the link in the
description box so that people click on that. But if they can't, if there's no no link for them to click
on, I would just say go to Google and type in Vimeo, V-I-M-E-O, and then type in Skin Walkers and
Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm. And you should find it. It should come up. It'll be the one that
says true seekers research. Awesome. Yes, everybody look for that. Give it a watch. And again,
and two and a half hours, Chad goes deep on so many topics.
So let's kind of, I've got a handful of questions to ask you about it,
and we can go in any direction we want.
So as I'm starting to watch your documentary near the beginning,
something really caught my attention.
And again, the title of your documentary is Skinwalkers and Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm.
And that's such a great title because Stranger Things obviously dovetails
with the hit show that's been on Netflix for a while.
But as I'm watching this, you have this piece at the beginning,
where your talk as you're setting up this whole film,
you mentioned kind of briefly how in 1869,
there was a British explorer who climbs up Mount Herman
and finds something.
And I'll let you tell us what he found.
But I had never heard this.
It fascinated me.
So tell us more.
about this, what he found and how it relates to Genesis 6 and the Watchers and the Nephilim.
Sure. I believe it was Sir Charles Edwin, who was the police chief in London at the time
during the Jack the Ripper murders, who was also a Mason. And he was exploring for the Palestine
government going around out there exploring. And he found a.
ancient temple, probably, in fact, it is the highest known temple of worship that they've ever found on the planet.
And I believe it's called Kassar Antar is the name of it.
And inside this temple, they found a stone with ancient Greek on it.
And they translated it and it said, those who take an oath proceed from here.
and I present a very compelling case that this ties in with the watchers that came down in
the days of Jared, the 200 fallen angels commando unit that came down to blot out the
coming Messiah.
And that was their mission was to try to blot out the coming Messiah and make God a liar.
And that was the thing is that the Simeaza, their leader, said that, you know,
I'm afraid that you guys aren't going to, you know, you're not going to take this oath or
whatever, stuff. And so they all swore an oath and swore an oath under this curse that they would all
be guilty of this sin. A lot of my research is, you know, we're talking ancient history, prehistory.
So obviously that dovetails into Genesis 6, the book of Enoch that you referenced. And for those
who may not know, the book of Enoch goes in depth on what Genesis 6-4 mentions kind of in passing
about these ancient giants, these Nephilem.
And so Enoch breaks down how it all started with these, what we would call watchers,
these fallen angels that somehow descend to earth breed with human women, right?
But Enoch says how they came to Mount Hermon, highest peak there in Israel or the Middle East.
And they make this oath, right, that we are going to do this no matter what.
and it was kind of like the original genetic experiment, right?
Creating this hybrid race, it breeds them out.
And so to me, it's fascinating in your film how we might have some kind of archaeological
evidence that could back that up, right?
Because it's this like four-foot stella and you show pictures of it with these ancient
inscriptions.
And here we've got this 1800s British Explorer finds this.
and the inscriptions pretty much describe what they said in the book of Enoch.
You know, we're going to make this vow and we're going to do this.
So I found that fascinating because you get into a lot about what Blavatsky said about the Aryans
and how they were related to the Atlanteans.
So why don't you give us a little background on who this Blavatsky is that you quote several times in the documentary
and why that's important to set up what she needs.
knew about the Aryans and how they might have been related to the Atlanteans who,
according to reports, were giants. Tell us a little bit about that.
Sure. Helena Blavatsky was a early researcher and explorer who traveled the world going through
ancient manuscripts, ancient texts, and wrote several books. The book and question that we're
talking about is her book, The Secret Doctrine, Volume 2. And inside that book, she gets into a lot of
this stuff, but she also talks about an ancient Tibetan manuscript that she had translated called
the Bucadizion. And inside the Bucadizian, it talks about the Atlanteans. And it has a specific
part in there, I think it stands 11, where it talks about they built statues, the height of
their bodies. And it says that they were nine yachties high. Well, a yachti translates to a meter or
three feet. So three times nine is 27 feet tall, which directly ties these.
individuals in with Genesis 6 and the Nephom. So that's, you got that right there. And after,
you know, you go that route, you're looking at that, well, that's, that's where I get into
the whole thing about the Nazis. You know, everybody thinks it was about eugenics, that this was about
the race war, that they wanted to be pure white, pure Aryan. Well, it's pure Aryan, but it's not
what people are thinking. It has nothing to do with eugenics. It does to a degree, but it's,
they were tapping into the ancient bloodlines, the nephelum bloodlines.
This is what they, this is what they were interested in.
They wanted to tap into their nephelum bloodlines.
And they wanted the powers that go along with that.
I mean, they were reading books like the coming race where they were talking about
these people that lived inside the earth that wielded a power called Rill.
And this power was so devastating that a child, in fact, if I remember correctly,
It says something about a child who had the power of Vril, just if they didn't keep it in check, if they just got upset, they could decimate an entire army, one child.
That's how powerful this.
So this is what they believe.
This is what they totally bought into Blavatsky's root race theology that she talks about.
In fact, in the seven root races that she talks about, it was the first two root races.
they weren't even human.
They were something else.
And if you read it and look at it,
it talks about like these spiritual beings.
So, I mean, seriously, it's like,
when you start looking into the ancient world,
especially stuff like pre-ademic,
you start getting into the gap theory,
the pre-ademic,
and then you start getting into six-day,
six-day man before Adam and E,
because most people,
they don't even know
that the Bible talks about two creation accounts.
in there when you're reading Genesis.
There's two separate creation accounts.
It said, God created men and women, told him to be fruitful and multiply.
But then it starts over.
It says God then created Adam.
Adam was unique.
He put Adam in the garden.
Adam lived by himself with the animals for an extended period of time.
We don't know exactly how long that was.
But there was an extended period of time where he lived just among the animals.
Then finally, when he went to sleep, he took a rib and created Eve.
So like I said, there's a whole plethora of time.
that most people are not even fully aware of.
Reading the beginning of the Bible, Genesis 1-1-1-2,
you got the whole thing about the Tohu-Bohu,
which is how we get into the whole thing about the gap theory and pre-ademic.
Give us a little bit more on the gap theory
and why you believe there's credence to this theory
that the earth is far, maybe far older than we've been told or led to believe.
me and Timothy Albarino, we've talked several times.
One of the conversations that we had through his connection with Ansel P. Rambla,
who's done research into the Chinchana and all that,
there are pre-ademic sites underneath some of these megalithic sites.
I'm sure you probably already know this.
You probably heard this.
You probably even talked to Timothy about this.
But that's the thing is that there are pre-edictive.
hedemic sites that are far ancient than these megalithic sites like machu pechu and and so on it's like you know
those sites those sites alone are staggering and mind-blowing but you know it's like what is any of
like petra jordan for example only 85% of petra is even has been excavated you know or i mean 15%
has been excavated 85% of it is still underground and nobody's ever even seen it and that's the way
a lot of these ancient sites are.
So like I said, the deeper you go, the more the older it gets.
And like I said, you quickly go past the whole megalithic stuff and you start getting into
what they call pre-ademic.
Now, the chinkan, that Ansel P. Rambla talked about, this thing travels all the way from
Bolivia to Peru to the Amazon rainforest.
And even, well, is it Timothy had alluded, he believes it has.
actually goes all the way under the ocean straight to Antarctica.
And I mean, when you hear Ansel P. Romola talking about this A-frame type tunnel,
he said this tunnel was so big.
You could take two of those red double-decker buses in England, put them side by side,
and they could drive nonstop to wherever this thing, however far it goes.
But we know that it goes all the way out past Amazon rainforest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so this tunnel Chad's talking about is supposed to be under the city of Kusko.
And the crown jewel of Kusko is this site called the Kori Kanchia, which is this incredible
megalithic temple.
I was just there in October.
And it was one of the most fascinating things to see.
But for those that have really researched it and Chad's referencing this guy named
Anson P. Rambla, he actually got permission years ago to go underneath.
this and to his amazement he found what the legends of the inca had said that there was a massive tunnel
not just a tunnel of carbon to bedrock but a dressed finished megalithic tunnel that ran at least from that
site miles up to soxsewaman one of the most amazing megalithic sites in peru but these
megalithic tunnels or if you want to call it preademic
are said to go like like chad said forever under the ground and connect cities all over so is that an
example of pre-demic architecture may be but i guess the whole gap theory is a discussion for
another day crazy uh rabbit trobe we could go down but i want to get back to um a blavatsky and
the arians this is such an incredible topic
So Blavatsky, she predated Hitler and stuff.
That was what, a couple decades before?
Yeah, in fact, you had Alistair Crowley looked into her research.
I mean, a lot of people followed her research.
But like I said, the Nazis latched onto it about the root race theology part of it
and talking about the Arians that they were the descendants of the Atlanteans.
And so whenever they saw the thing in there about the book of Dizion,
how the Atlanteans were 27 feet tall and the Aryans were their descendants.
That's what they,
and they believe that they were the remnant descendants of the Aryans.
So that's where this is all actually going towards.
And they had their various branches that they had on an urbe,
which was like their archaeologists that traveled the planet looking through ancient manuscripts,
and also looking for archaeological artifacts and so on.
And those were the ones that,
most people are familiar with that we were over in Tibet and they were hanging out with the monks.
In fact, they brought back almost 200 monks and made them SS officers.
You know, there's so much about the Nazis that most people have never even heard of and are not even aware of.
So, yeah.
So Blavatsky was a leading occultist of her day.
Yes.
And so she had done crazy research and found all these ancient texts and basically wrote these books.
talking about, you know, these ancient races.
But you're saying, you know, when people hear the word area and they're thinking, you know,
these are the people that the Nazis wanted to be just this white-skinned blue-eyed race,
you're saying it's way more than that.
They were trying to tap into the Atlantean or Nephilim bloodlines.
So tell us more about that and then talk more about these artifacts.
They were trying to hunt down.
And then I want to ask, go ahead.
Yeah.
The Nephlin bloodlines, I'm sure you probably know.
you're probably familiar with Fritz Springermeier's research, the 13 bloodlines and so on.
And that's the thing is that there are still remnants of the Nephlin bloodlines that live among us today.
You know, these are the most elite, wealthy people that you don't really hear a whole lot about.
They're never in the news.
You never see them on TV or anything like that.
Most of the time, their names never even appear in print anywhere because they are just that.
They're that powerful.
But again, they believe.
that they were part of this as well, not just those 13 bloodlines, but that they were the
direct descendants and that they had came from the Aryans. So that's what they were tapping into
and what they were trying to prove. But as far as like traveling the planet, they were looking
for all sorts of ancient artifacts. They were looking for the Ark of the Covenant, which we saw
in Raiders of the Lost Ark. You know, they talk about that. But they were looking for lots of
different ancient artifacts and not just stuff that had to do.
Christ, but other artifacts that, you know, known to be supernatural that might have even had to do
with fallen angels and stuff like that. So they pretty much everywhere all over the planet,
they even went down to New Schwabensland in Antarctica, I believe it's Admiral Donuts that
said that they had built an impregnable fortress down there for him. And in fact,
that when Hitler supposedly was murdered or killed himself and over there at the end of World War II,
the FBI had document saying that that he had made it to Argentina.
Well, what's the significance of him making it to Argentina?
Well, when you know about the Chincana and all that, you know, it's just a hop, skip, and a jump.
You can travel underground all the way straight to Antarctica.
So it's very fascinating.
Yeah, years ago, I watched that hunting Hitler.
documentary by the History Channel.
And we know the History Channel is pretty mainstream now.
But even the evidence they seem to produce in that documentary seemed pretty over the top that, man, what were all these Nazis doing in Argentina?
Like there is whole people that look German down there and all this German linguistics.
And it's like they, it is like a bunch of them escaped down there and tried to start over.
over and that's a hop, skip, and a jump from Antarctica.
And so I definitely want to ask you, I'm going to come back to that because you helped
on that other documentary, I think, about the Hollow Earth, right?
So that dovetails about Antarctica.
So I want to get back to that.
But first I want to ask you before I forget, since we're on the topic of just kind of the
Nazi occult, you talk in your documentary about how obviously the Nazis were obsessed with
occult sciences. They're looking for these artifacts. But you talk some about this real society.
So I want to just ask you a little bit more about that because you talk about how the real society
had like these beautiful maidens, these women that had long hair. And but when they would get into
these trances, they would start to do some crazy stuff. Tell us a little bit more about what you found
in your research. Yeah.
The VIRL Society was made up of men and women, but there were two women that were part of the VIRIL Society.
And these two women were part of what they called the VIRIL Maitens, which there were several of them, but only two were part of the VIRL Society.
The two that were in the VIRIL Society was Maria Orsick and the other one, her name was Sigram.
And they tasked these two women who were supposed to be good at making contact with the dead.
and they tasked them with making contact with a dead SS officer that had been off doing something, gathering intel,
and before he had a chance to get back to give the information that he had collected,
he was either killed or murdered or something.
So they tried to reach out to him to get this information,
and when they did, they made contact with some sort of entity that said it held from the El Debron system.
And while they were in contact with this entity, they said that they started to exhale ectoplasm,
that there was like this mist coming out of their nostrils and out of their mouths,
and their eyes rolled back in their head, and they began automatic writing.
And one started writing in an ancient Sumerian language,
and the other was writing in some sort of an ancient Templar language.
And whenever they got done, writing everything down and came out of their trance,
it took them several years to
to break this down and to
translate it all.
And one of them was
the directions or the blueprints
on how to build the Hanibu
and the other one was the
directions on how to build the
de Glacca. And there's
actual footage that you can go and
find. In fact, I'll send you the link later
on of them doing a test
flight of the Hanibu back in
1932 or 33
in Germany. They have
it on video, you can actually see it.
And this thing actually is levitating and flying around.
But the de Glocko was something that they said was interdimensional, that this thing could
jump between, it could go into the heavenly or demonic realms.
It was some sort of interdimensional vehicle.
And the Honoboo, was that like a bell-shaped craft?
The Honnabu looks more like what everybody typically thinks of as a UFO, a saucer.
And the other one looked like what?
It was more bell-shaped.
that's the de glaca yeah it's i i've stumbled upon some of what looked like these authentic vintage
photos of some of these craft the nazis were creating i mean it's mind-blowing this is the 30s
yeah and they have levitating like craft i mean when you look at the rest of the world
nobody else had technology like that so again that connects back to what were they tapping into
and you're saying and what a lot of others have said based on
your research, as they were obsessed with the occult and tapping into this stuff, they were
getting back these secrets, correct?
Yes.
In fact, I believe that's where almost all of this technology has come from, it's fallen angel
technology.
It was destroyed in the flood.
In fact, when I think of stuff like Star Wars and Star Trek, I think of the past.
I don't think of the future.
You know, that's, that's ancient history.
That's already happened.
And that's the whole thing is, you know, there's nothing new under the sun.
So we're just literally playing catch up to what they've already achieved in the past.
Okay, so let's talk about Antarctica a little bit since we're on this topic of the Nazis.
So again, the mainstream narrative is that Hitler commits suicide and the Allies win the war.
But again, even the History Channel's documentary, Hunting Hitler says this,
completely other narrative and which is no Hitler actually escaped he lived for quite a while after
the war he was down in argentina and they had these secret bases in antarctica now being that you helped
with that hollow earth documentary um which i remember watching and and that was fascinating because it dovetails
around these secret bases in Antarctica and it's not just hearsay because back is
the day was at the 40s of the U.S. sent their top Navy Admiral Bird, right?
Down there with this huge armada of, it was like a warship armada of battle carriers.
Why are they going to Antarctica right after the war in the 40s if it was just a penguin
expedition, right?
Tell us more about that.
Yeah, it was Admiral Bird.
he took not only United States naval forces down there with him,
he also had the British Navy as well as the Australian Navy with him.
So, yeah, three different navies all go down there.
There was 13 ships total.
They had aircraft carrier, all sorts of stuff.
And one of the ships that went down there on that expedition did not return.
In fact, some of the people that came back had talked about these craft
coming up out of the water and they said that they fired some sort of they they referred to them
as energy weapons some sort of energy weapons and they said that they cut through the ships like
like a knife going through melted butter and they said that one of the ships actually was sunk
and I mean it's it's to hear these people talking about in fact there was a transmission
if I remember correctly as well that South America picked up were
Admiral Byrd had sent a report back saying that there were craft down there that could not only fly from, I believe, city to city, but they could fly from pole to pole or something along those lines.
And that got printed in the newspaper in South America.
You can actually look that up.
So that's verifiable.
But the fact that he had made this transmission back to the United States and that South America not only intercepted it, but printed it in newspapers.
So they definitely encountered something.
In fact, the thing was called Operation Hodgem.
And the fact that he went down there with as big a force as he did,
but not only the United States,
but had the British and Australia Navy with him,
that begs the question, what the heck were they doing down there?
And they were supposed to be there, if I remember correctly,
they were supposed to have been there for like a year,
and they came back after a couple of months.
They didn't even spend the entire time down there
that they were supposed to.
So obviously something ran them up out of there.
So this is shortly after the war.
And again, they're not going down there with just these scientific vessels or fishing vessels.
This is a battle fleet with all kinds of fighter jets on these craft, right?
Yes.
Yeah, so they had these battleships.
They had fighter jets or planes back then.
And they're only down there for a couple months, like you said.
Wasn't there also reports of these some kind of entities emerging from bases?
I don't know necessarily if there was any of the, that was the thing is they went down there looking for this base because like I said, Admiral Donuts had already made claims that he had made some sort of impregnable fortress.
We know before all that they were down there, what they called the New Swabinsland Expedition.
And they had a camp there called Base 411.
So, I mean, they had already gone down there.
They had already set up bases and things like that.
But like I said, according to Admiral Donuts and the fact that, and the reason why I bring
Admiral Donuts up because he was one of the fleet commanders for their Navy.
And there was numerous.
And when I say numerous, what we're talking probably hundreds of, goodness, the submarines
that just vanished completely.
off the face of the planet.
It's like where did all these submarines go?
Because, you know, it's like, yes, you know, some of them did get sunk,
especially the ones that were attacking like Lusitania and all that kind of stuff.
But there was a vast majority of these that could hold up to hundreds of people in there
that just completely vanished.
And it's like they were obviously spiriting Nazi scientists and people of importance away
down to Antarctica on these submarines.
And the fact that, you know, what was it, I believe that there was close to something along the lines, I think about 90,000 or 100,000 very important prominent people that just vanished, completely vanished.
So the missing submarines, all the prominent people that just disappeared and Admiral Donuts making these postful claims that, you know, hey, we got an impregnable fortress down there.
And Admiral Donuts was with which country?
He was one of the Nazis.
Okay, he was the Nazi naval fleet commander.
So he had already bragged that they had sites down there.
Yeah, and when you study Admiral Bird, it's not like this was some fruit loop.
This guy back in his day was, he was like a Colin Powell of his day.
He was Time Magazine man of the year, if I remember right.
Yeah.
And so he was a decorated war hero, the best Navy general that they send down there.
and yeah then he said cryptic
things about
what he encountered and then if I remember right
upon his death
his home was raided
and everything taken
and put top secret right
I believe in the vast majority of it
now the diary that most people
like to talk about
that was actually that's actually
in the
goodness, I can't remember if it's Utah.
One of the universities has his diary,
and that's the one that you hear people talking about
where he says that he was taken inside the Hall of Earth
and that he had a meeting or face-to-face meeting with the master.
And it's very fascinating when you get into that
when he's talking about the master that he met inside the Hollow Earth
because people like Roger Marneau,
who has talked about when he, what was it?
I think back in the round.
It was around the time right before World War II
when he was going to seances with his wife.
And one of the guys that was there that night
just approached him.
He said, you know, what are you doing here?
Why do you come to this?
And he's like, well, my wife likes to come here.
And he's like, but, you know, if I want real, if I want,
if I need something, he goes, I go direct to the source.
He goes, if I want power, I go to the source.
He said, look, he goes, we worship spirits.
We worship Lucifer and his fallen angels.
And they're just as beautiful as the day.
they were cast out of heaven and our master was misunderstood and that was first time he started hearing
them talking about the master and that's what they refer to lucifer as the master so it's like
who was this gentleman that that bird met with when he was taken into the hollow earth and that was
the thing that we were made we never got into that research or talked about that but that was one of the
things that i wanted to to see in the film and i think it's very prominent because uh
That is what they refer to him as.
It's the master.
You know, even the last 10, 15 years,
it's like all these world leaders
make these special trips down to Antarctica.
I know John Kerry did a couple years ago.
I think Germans, Angela Merkel went down there.
I mean, a lot of world leaders,
why are they going to Antarctica?
And when you really stop and think about it,
it's like, do we really,
really believe that, you know, it's like world peace is the hardest thing in the world to come by,
but it magically happens in Antarctica, right, where all the nations have decided to just share
this, to just do science research, or is there something more going on, right? Is it actually
ruled by proxy, whether it's by the U.S. or whatever? And the guise is, you know, scientific penguin
research. But a lot of people theorize there's not just maybe Nazi bases there, but there's
ancient ruins there. Researcher, Linda Moulton Howe has done some extensive research.
I actually watched her documentary recently on, you know, secret ancient sites in Antarctica.
You know, she seems to have, if you believe her, she's talked with a guy that was a pilot that
flew over Antarctica to drop off some scientists.
And it's fascinating, right?
Again, if true, and as he's dropping them off and transporting them, he looked down and saw
massive ancient ruins, and then at one point went into one.
And again, if we're talking pre-ademic architecture, it was just massive, like...
Went on for miles and miles and miles.
and that there was no support columns in the massive gigantic rooms
and that there was what two miles of ice on top
that literally should have crushed this thing.
He said that whenever you walked into another section of room,
that everything started lighting up and illuminating
and that he could walk for miles and into another room and so on.
He said it was the biggest structure he'd ever been in.
It just blew his mind.
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Even the remote viewers saw a lot of crazy.
weird stuff going on in Antarctica.
And Ingo Swan, he was probably the one that got tripped out the most.
He didn't like messing or doing remote viewing on some of the structures as well as the
UFOs because he said that if he spied on them that they would come and they would literally
possesses him.
Wow.
Okay, since you bring up remote viewing, I got to ask you about that because you definitely
hit on that in the beginning of your film.
How does remote viewing tie in?
to you again what these Nazis were doing with the occult and then how is for people who know who know
nothing about it because it sounds pretty out there how is the government supposedly trying to use
that today well um it started out at uh stanford research institute and uh the and that was where
it really got bizarre when i started looking because the remote viewing thing tied in with what's
going on at skimwalker ranch then like i said i started out on skimwalker ranch then like i said i started out on
Skinwalker Ranch and got into all these other little topics.
But the vast majority or almost all the beginning people that were mixed up in remote viewing
were at one time members of Scientology.
So keep that in mind.
And we're not talking a low level Scientologists.
We're talking top of the, you know, the upper Epsilon, the cream of the crop.
They were all OT-7s.
Ingo-Swan, Hal Put-off, both OT-7s.
Pat Price, who was the Golden Child at the Stanford Research Institute, he was OT3.
So you got these people, and it started out what they were doing is that they were spying from a distance,
obtaining information that otherwise would be unobtainable.
So that's how it was started out was they wanted to create psychic spies.
But it quickly morphed into something else, and they started tapping into psycho-competing.
Kinesis, and they wanted to create psycho assassins that could kill from a distance.
And that's where it quickly started.
Because like I said, you know, most people hear of MK Ultra.
They hear of Bonarch and all that, but there was far deeper and darker programs that they
had going on.
And one of those that I talk about in the film was called MK Offent.
And this part of the, this one particular branch, they got into the, uh,
the dark arts, you know, black magic, satanic rituals.
They dealt with witches, just all sorts of stuff.
In fact, they were good.
They talked to a witch by the name of Sybil Leek,
who was the head witch in the world back at that time.
This lady was so prominent and so well known
that people like of craft, H.G. Wells,
Lawrence of Arabia,
Alastair Crowley,
all these people used to go and visit her house
and hang out and spend time with her when she was a child.
Alastair Crowley started going there
and hanging out with her when she was nine years old.
And when she was 16 years old,
he was still going by there and visiting her
and reading her poetry and things like this.
But she worked with the U.S. Air Force
and Operation Often.
And she got into some very disturbing stuff.
And that was the thing.
It's like they were very weirded out by a lot of stuff that she talked about.
But sometimes she would tell them things.
They would just completely blow all their minds.
You know, like where is she getting this information from?
I think in chapter three of your documentary, you get into Skinwalker Ranch and you kind of start with the history of it, which I didn't actually know this older history.
So can you start with kind of, why Skinwalker Ranch?
Start with that older history that you talk about.
And then how was it Bigelow?
that ends up buying it and the stuff that's happened and why it matters.
Yeah.
There was an older couple that lived on the ranch for a long time, I believe it was a period of
about 70 years.
And it wasn't until the husband had passed away.
The wife was in a nursing home.
And then eventually when she passed, her brother sold the property to a family called
the Sherman's.
Well, the Sherman's lived there for about 18 months.
and from the first day that they moved in until the day that they left,
they had nothing but bizarre, supernatural things that happened out there.
And the father, you know, Terry, he used to sit out there and watch this portal that would
open to the sky.
And he said that there would be this portal that would just open up.
He said it could be nighttime where he was at.
But when this portal would open, it would be daytime on the other side.
So it's like it was a window to another world, another debate.
invention, whatever, but he can see things on the other side and sometimes things would fly into it
and things would fly out of it. And, you know, he was always seeing craft out there, bizarre orbs,
cryptids, just you name it. In fact, one day they had a gentleman that came out back when
the reports finally started to come out that there was like all the supernatural stuff going on out
there. This gentleman had drove all the way out there to visit the property and said, I just
want to go out and meditate in one of your fields or something or pray or something.
So they take him out to Homestead too.
He gets out.
He sits there and he's just like meditating or praying.
And all of a sudden they keep hearing this bell sound.
I'm like, what's that?
You know, I keep hearing it.
But none of his cattle or any of his animals had any bells on them.
So he didn't know what the sound, where it was emanating from.
And finally, he said that he saw something moving in between the trees.
And then finally something broke away from the tree.
tree line and started running right up towards the man.
Well, they didn't have a
vernacular to describe what they were seeing,
but they said it looked like a heat mirage
is the best way they could describe it.
And this, whatever it was,
ran up right in front of the guy and just
leaned over him and screamed
or let out a roar.
And they said it sounded like a giant
lion or bear or something.
They said it was the most piercing sound they'd ever heard.
And as quickly is it,
ran up and did this, it quickly turned and ran away.
And they were, you know, time had went by one night.
They were sitting there and they were watching the movie Predator.
And whenever they saw the thing come out of the jungle when it had the camouflage on,
both his son and Terry both pointed and started screaming.
They're like, that's what we saw.
That's what it was.
And so he knew that there was some sort of cloaking technology as well out there on his
property, that there's something running around that's.
obscuring and hiding itself, but that it could move faster than anything he'd ever seen.
And that, you know, it freaked him out, just seeing the craft out there, plus the things that were going on with some of his animals.
They had had a young calf that had been mutilated, him and his wife were out tagging the newborn calves.
And he had just tagged that calf like 45 minutes before and had walked off to another part of the pasture.
But he wasn't very far away.
Well, his dog started carrying on.
and whenever his dog would not relent or calm down,
he finally started going back over to that direction.
And that's when he saw the mother running around,
limping on one of her,
or dragging one of her legs.
So the mother had been injured,
and the calf had been completely eviscerated.
I mean,
all that was left was the meat down the spine and with its legs.
And it was laid out like it was just presented.
And that freaked him out,
because like I said, they had just tagged it like 45 minutes before.
Whatever did that, there's, it did not have enough time.
And it was so precise.
There was no blood anywhere to be found anywhere around the carcass or anything.
So, I mean, just the sheer amount of weirdness that was going on after the wife used to come home and put all the groceries away and things like that.
And then she would step in the other room for like a few seconds.
And when she come back out, all the groceries were back in the bag sitting on the countertop.
and I mean it was constantly they hear things coming and going and out of the fact when they moved
into the house there was bolts on the inside of the house and on the outside of the house and they
had big things where they used to chain up gigantic dogs right outside the house or bring them
into the house so they're like what what's what's going on here because the previous owners
never said anything about anything weird going on there it wasn't until the sherman's moved in
But eventually what caused the Sherman's to sell the property was he had three hundred dogs.
And he finally went out, there was a blue orb that appeared.
It was coming closer and closer.
And finally he just let the dogs take off and chase after it.
Well, the orb kept getting lower and lower.
And it was literally taunting them, but also dragging them away into these trees.
And once they disappeared out there behind the trees, he said he heard three loud yelps.
and then he never heard anything else.
And it was too dark to go out there and go looking.
So he just decided to go out the next morning.
And whenever he got out there,
he found underneath one of the trees,
these three impressions in the ground where literally whatever it was,
and it incinerated his dogs and killed them.
And that was the last straw.
Once that happened, he decided I'm done.
I'm selling this.
And I believe it was somebody,
I can't remember exactly.
exactly who it was. Brandon Fugel talked about it in that clip that I put in the film.
But it was brought to the attention of Bigelow because Bigelow at the time,
all the UFO reports on the planet were going to him.
So whenever a pilot or anybody encountered something weird and they filled out a report,
those reports were going to Bigelow.
So Bigelow decided, you know, hey, whatever's going out there might tie.
I am with this whole UFO.
In fact, one of the generals that he's friends with that's part of his Nitz team, I can't think
of his name right off top of my head, but he was the one who flew out there with him when
he bought the ranch and was trying to talk him into it.
And the Sherman's, just so we have a timeline right, were they living out there like in the
50s?
Is that the kind of the timeline between the Sherman's and Bigelow?
90s in the early 90s.
Yeah.
Yeah, early 90s, I believe, to the mid-90s.
And that's when he bought it.
But he didn't just buy Skinwalker Ranch.
This is another one of these things that eventually comes up for the deeper you dig.
The ranch Bradshaw Ranch, which is just as equally paranormal as Skinwalker Ranch.
He bought both of those ranches.
And they're not very far from one another.
But he bought them both at the same time and owned both of them for 10 years.
And like I said, that's just the two we know about.
There's three others out there as well.
So you got Bradshaw, you got Skidwocker, you got Blind Frog, you got Moonshadow, and you got Stardust.
There's five paranormal ranches and they all fall on a straight line.
Fascinating.
So the Sherman's had it.
The owners before them never really said much.
But when the Sherman show up and take over this property, they notice some weird stuff like the doors bolted.
on each side.
You said there was locks.
So it's like,
what are you trained to keep out?
And some of the most incredible collection of,
of pictographs in that area
aren't far from Skinwalker Ranch,
really when you look at a map.
And so, again,
when we go back to the ancient set of things,
like how ancient is this property really
and who was here way before, right?
That might have opened stuff up on this property.
You can just click the link in the show notes to go straight to Chad's documentary,
Skinwalkers and Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm.
If you can't click a link in a show note, just search for that on Vimeo, like he said.
And it's really easy to purchase and download and just watch and enjoy.
And you're probably going to need a couple days because this thing is long.
And you're going to get your money's worth.
I'll say that.
Chad, again, remind me, how can people follow you and stay up to date?
mostly just Facebook?
Yeah, my Facebook channel is the chat, you know, the facebook.com forward slash and then
chad.
dot Riley.
12 brings up my Facebook page.
But yeah, I'm also on YouTube.
I have the True Seekers Research channel as well with the trailer and a talk that I
gave at Skyfall, 2023 and any interviews that I start doing from here on out, I'll probably
mirror those on there as well.
Awesome.
Chad, well done on the documentary.
Thanks for all the, not just hours, but days, weeks, months, and years of research you put into that.
And thanks for coming on today.
And I hope to do this again in the future.
That's good.
Appreciate it, brother.
