Megalithic Marvels - Egyptian, Mayan & Incan Mysteries - interview on the "Lets Be Friends" Podcast

Episode Date: April 12, 2023

In this episode I feature an interview I did with Kara Mosher on the "Lets Be Friends Podcast," where we talked about various mysteries regarding the Egyptian, Mayan & Incan civilizations. ⁠⁠Peru Tour⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Megalithic Marvels on the following platforms: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/megalithicm... Blog - https://megalithicmarvels.com/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpiP... Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/megalithicma... TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@megalithicmarvels Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/10186... Twitter - https://twitter.com/MegMarvels

Welcome back to the Let's Be Friends podcast. Back on the show is Derek Olson, who you may know as Megalithic Marvels. Derek is a researcher, explorer, and founder of Megalithic Marvels, a video podcast and blogging platform dedicated to reconstructing the prehistoric past and investigating ancient mysteries centered around lost technologies, megalithic architecture, and the ancient engineers who built them. And then this fall, he's going to be hosting the adventure of a lifetime to Peru. Derek shares all the stuff that I like to say, I wish I had learned in school, all the things I'm actually interested. So welcome back to the show, Derek. Hey, Kara. Thanks so much for having me. Great to be back on your podcast. And yeah, really looking

forward to some of these topics we're going to get into. I think the audience is going to be excited. I do too. I loved having you on the show last time. We talked about the lost technologies of ancient Egypt. And I was just telling you, because we restarted our second run on this opening, because I forgot to press record. But here we are now. Your last episode with me on the show was one of the most popular Let's Be Friends episode. Everybody's interested in these lost technologies.

We're learning that his story happened. We're not being taught everything. So new discoveries are being made, right? Like in Egypt? Yeah, there was a new discovery that broke, I think it was just last week, which is kind of a rarity to get a, you know, major supposed discovery in Egypt.

And so for those who haven't heard, a new corridor measuring like 30 feet long was discovered inside the Great Pyramid of Giza. And the officials there with the Antiquities Department announced this. It was on March 2nd, actually. And this corridor is located behind what they call the Chevrons on the north face of the Great Pyramid. And so when I say chevrons, what I mean are if you look at the north face of the Great Pyrams, the Great Pyramid in the center middle are these massive huge gabled limestone beams that extend kind of upward vertically or triangularly. And this is considered by many, and I believe this is true to be the original entrance of the Great Pyramid. Oh, wow. Right. The entrance that we go in or you're

allowed to go in today is not, it's basically below into the right of this original entrance. And it's just a hole that was blown in there in the 9th century. Because they couldn't, because they couldn't find the real entrance. So they just had to make one. Right. Or because they just couldn't get in. It's so impenetrable. And so, yeah, what you walk through now is just literally a blown, blown through tunnel.

And you can see it's just real archaic. And, you know, you can see, see the explosives were used of some sort. But yeah, this original entrance is massive. And again, you see these gables. that stick up and dwarf all the other blocks on the outside of that north face. And so the crazy part is, I think it's called the Scan Pyramids Project. This is a group of scientists that have been in the last handful of years looking for voids within the pyramid.

These are the guys, I think, in 2017 who found that other void that we've been hearing about the last few years. So they found this using basically high frequency ground penetrating radar, which revealed this opening behind these so-called chevrons. They put this super, like a five-millimeter thick, real small endoscope through the joints. And it's really cool. You can go to megalithic marvels.com to see a photo or even video footage of this. But yeah, it shows inside this 30-foot corridor. And it's the coolest thing about it to me is it's got the triangular gabled ceiling inside, which looks just like the inside of some other chambers

in the pyramid, like the so-called Queens Chamber. Again, it's all megalithic engineering with these massive, what I call megaton blocks. And so pretty exciting discovery. But the cynical part of me, it goes, man, this is what they're letting us know about? What have they really found, right? Yeah, exactly. Like, well, I mean, it's just crazy to discover something like this on the pyramid. It's like so it was behind what was what they thought was just the face of the pyramid, right? And they discover it with this frequency sonar type stuff, right? And stick a little camera and see what it is and they are able to excavate it and open it up. And then it's just, it's wild like to to know that there's discovering new stuff still. But I'm with you. Like, what is this really for? Or like how long have they known about this or what? Where don't we know? Yeah, I mean, this is, again, this is what they're letting us know publicly. There's actually been some other great discoveries in the Great Pyramid. I'll just reference one or two of them. There's a guy named Robert Edward Grant, who's a mathematician, basically a polymath.

He's into all kinds of different subjects. But he's been going to the Great Pyramid for years. In 2018, he basically discovered in the, what, we consider the Holy of Holies inside the great pyramid, the King's Chamber. That's what they call it, although no original King mummy who was ever discovered in there. I think we discussed it on the last episode. Yeah. Yeah. These weren't really tombs. Right. Inside the King's Chamber is what they call the sarcophagus. Well, I don't believe it was a sarcophagus at all. It was likely some kind of box that has an energy device. Well, on the backside of this, Robert Edward Grant discovered.

two symbols that nobody had apparently ever seen before that we have recorded an alpha and an omega symbol. And you have to have kind of a special red light to see it. But once you see it, it's there. And he's, you know, alpha and omega, these are Greek letters. He believes these are actually much older. These are the signature of the original architects. Wow. Because he's now found them like on the giant boxes in the serapium he's found them on all these megalithic pieces he's found them and he believes again these are symbols of the original what if you want to call it alphabet or writing system of these builders so to me this was just crazy i did an interview with him and got to see the video footage that's on my website too and then another thing he he really has

to research the life of Leonardo da Vinci, the great artist we all know about. Well, it's interesting to note that Da Vinci basically, if you study history, he disappears from Italy for like three years. Nobody knows where he went. He disappeared from Public View. I think it was 1482 to 1486. Wow. I didn't know that. Right. That's crazy. But in reading some of his letters, in chronicles, he basically cryptically chronicles that he went to Egypt. And we know this by a letter he wrote to a Sultan in Cairo, a powerful guy that was probably funding his trip. And so it's likely that Da Vinci had a map. He's exploring inside the Great Pyramid. And I'm saying all this to set up that he encoded, according to Robert Edward Grant and a lot of great researchers that have studied this

more in depth. He encoded all these pyramid codes into his his major art pieces. Wow. And so that sounds crazy. Wow. No, that's a, that makes sense. Right. And so his first, his first major painting, I believe after his secret visit to the Great Pyramids was the Vitruvian Man painting that shows the guy with like four arms and six legs. It's like he's moving. Oh, wow. Wow. When you, when you place. of the Great Pyramid over this painting in the right proportion. The crazy thing is the horizontal lines that Da Vinci has on this guy's body all perfectly aligned with the chambers inside the Great Pyramid. To Orion, too, to the belt of Orion, like the Orion lines and the pyramids are

set up, right? Right. And the air shafts, if you saw like a 3D map or graphic of the inside the Great Pyramid. You see there's these vertical shafts that go up giving it, you know, like airflow. And those even align to how his arms extend to his shoulders. So and then the other one I'll mention is his probably his most famous painting The Last Supper, right? Oh, right. Yeah. Well, it's crazy. Okay, again, picture Da Vinci in the Great Pyramid. He probably spent days, if not weeks, months, maybe sleeping in here, living in here, mapping this thing. Again, if you put the blueprint, basically, of the King's Chamber over the Last Supper painting, the room perfectly aligns. What? Yeah. That's amazing. I had no idea. Right. And it's crazy to think about. And again,

this is Da Vinci in the 1400s, but still to me, that's a pretty cool, um, discovering a sense and a different way of somebody who was there in the 1400s and was so blown away by the stuff. He encoded it in what appears to be some of his greatest paintings. Yeah. No, that's amazing. It's amazing. It's just it's like discoveries within things that are already out there like little, you know, keys and stuff within the artwork. It reminds me of DaVinci code stuff kind of, you know, like going, going through and back and seeing how it all ties together. And then We all know Leonardo da Vinci and his work and just know that he had been in Egypt probably for these three years and no one really knew about it. And like he had these experiences in the pyramids,

probably, you know, just meditating in the pyramid and getting that power source, whatever it's aligned to those for the most gods. And then coming and doing this art, it's just amazing. Yeah, it's crazy to consider. So much so much happening in the world and so much, it seems like in the last year at least, I mean, so much of people being awakened is now being awakened to the fact of our hidden history and that there's so much more than we've been told. So again, really excited about some of the other stuff we're going to cover. Yeah, no, it's totally true because, you know, I am in a recent kind of awakened person in society. I'm a couple years into this.

And I'm immediately, you're like, oh my gosh, what we learned in school was probably just the outline that they wanted so we could be the cog and the machine in their system. But really, I want to learn about all the stuff that you're talking about, like that level of Leonardo da Vinci, even being in the pyramids or what the pyramids are really used for. Like, that's the king's chamber, but no king was found there. And so it's like, we're not taught with these things that are really used for. And you do want to learn about the world that you're living in. And, you know, it's crazy the thousands of years of kind of lost history. Because we just learned in school, like the last hundred years, when the United States was settled. And, you know, it's crazy. And,

And not anything else. And, you know, you know. Yeah. If you, listeners can, you can go Google like ancient history timeline. I did this recently. And I think the first search results going to be, of course, Wikipedia. You know, a gatekeeper.

And you look at their ancient history timeline. I think if my memory serves me right, it only goes back to 3200 BC. and it says Egyptian hieroglyphs began to be used and Kunea formed Sumerian writings. I mean, that's it. This is the ancient history timeline. There's nothing before that.

It's crazy you consider. No, totally. And it's like you said, I know I quoted you saying this in the last episode that we did together that they want us to think that we're in the smartest time of history right now and that they were really primitive and dumb and like, you know,

Neanderthals walking around with their woolly, mammoth, like pulling some bones and digging holes. But they were like building the pyramids with sound and like sound frequencies and like channeling like other being like the, you know, the spirit world and just like doing all these. They were doing so many things. Like we're going to talk about Peru and South America and the Incans and the mines and the Aztecs because we went to Egypt last time together. So we're we're going to take it to the other part of the world. And there's so much going on there. Like this is this is the hidden history is these civilizations. they seem to hold the keys.

Yeah, there's so much going on. Again, whether it's the Great Pyramids of Giza, to these megalithic walls and Peru, we'll talk about, again, what I would call antediluvian megalithic structures were constructed with some form of lost ancient tech that was far superior to anything we have today. And again, our greatest modern engineering can't replicate it.

Somebody just sent me on Instagram, this video. It's gone around. but it was such a great reminder of a modern day like this massive industrial earth mover type tractor trying to lift this uh it was probably i don't know if it was like a 10 ton block and you know it gets its shovel underneath and just lifts the tractor all the way up like our greatest engineering can't pick this stuff up so there's there's a whole lot more going on yeah no there's absolutely a whole lot more going on. I was listening to one of your reels. You had to, in an interview about the Mayans and your guest was talking about how they were at one point,

50,000 like structures being used probably as power sources at the height of the mine civilization. I mean, 50,000, would they be considered megalithic spot, like these temples and all of them? Like, what, what's going on with all of this? What were they powering? You know, like, what, we don't where do we find these answers yeah the mayans are such uh such a mysterious amazing culture um i hope to get back to mexico here soon um maybe with at least within the next two years to just um get some more footage of these sites and learn more but yeah the may i mean they really developed you know there's like the pre-classic period there's the classic the post-classic these are kind of the buckets that mainstream archaeology

gives us when we're thinking about the Maya or the Mesoamerican cultures. But the pre-classic period, it at least goes back to 2000 BC. So I'm saying that the Maya come from a very ancient civilization. There's a word diffusionism where it's likely, again, if they could build these megalithic structures with lost ancient tech, they could probably travel fairly easy. So I believe they were communicating with these other cultures, which is why we see these pyramids on these different continents and see similar megalithic architecture. Right.

The same styles like all around the world. I mean, what do you think about Pangaea? Do you remember Pangia, how they said the whole, the land was all together and then it's separated? Like, what are your thoughts on that? Is that concept possibly part of why these temples look similar? Maybe they were walkable? You know, yeah, Pangea, that is something I need to dive more into.

There's some great theories out there that seems like it could definitely explain how at one point it was easy to communicate if all the continents were together and you could just walk over, migrate over. At the same time, I think I wouldn't want that theory to take away from the fact. of these ancients using, again, what I would call, I guess, lost ancient tech that I think made it fairly easy for them to not just communicate, but travel. This might sound crazy, but even fly. I was just thinking that, like they had ships or they had ways to do it. And Pangaea is what they taught us in school too. So it's kind of like, ah, you know. Right. But you look at the Maya and you mentioned we're learning again LIDAR is really thank God for technology

because it really is shining a light in forcing mainstream archaeology to kind of start fessing up to their timelines because LIDAR is showing yeah the Maya had at one point during the height of their culture 50,000 plus some are saying closer to 60,000

active pyramids which most likely were all built on laylines, pushing energy up into the atmosphere and likely powering their civilization. And it's crazy to think about. And NASA was at Chechnica about 10 years ago. Oh, really? And they were studying the main pyramid there,

the El Castillo pyramid or what's also known as the Kuku Khan pyramid. And they had a covering put over the pyramid. you know i don't whether it was a massive sheet or some kind of scaffolding to cover what they were doing oh really but when you look into this they were evidently testing for frequencies emitted from the pyramid of course yeah this is NASA yeah NASA knows they know other stuff right they may not know what they know about but they know other stuff that's a big budget they have a 60 million dollar day budget yeah when NASA's down studying frequencies at pyramids i mean that's You know, they're trying to get crafts off the ground.

And then I can also send you some photos. I meant to do this before the show if you want to somehow feature these. And I don't know. Yeah. Your show notes of your podcast. But there's also all these figurines that were created by the Maya that looks like they're wearing bonafide space suits. Oh, what? Yeah.

It's not one depiction or one little statue. it, but we're talking, there's hundreds of these things, depictions and statues, again, showing Mayans wearing what looks exactly like spacesuits. So again, this makes me lean towards. They definitely had knowledge of still in their time or even possessed some form of lost ancient tech. And we're using it in ways much more than we've been told. So the Maya were brilliant mathematicians, astronomers, and really the descendants of some very sophisticated people. Something else to point out is that they may even had like a sect or tribe of Mayans that were almost little people. Oh yeah, that's what I, like the temples were a lot of them were for people that were like three feet tall, right?

Yeah, there's some ruins, especially the ones at Talum. down there in Mexico. I've been to the Tulum ruins a few times. Yeah. Did you see the area where it's all like for three feet people? It was like 10 years ago, 15 years ago. I can't quite remember that. I've walked through all of it though. So I must have. I mean, I was told it was like a, you know, like a, the place where ships would have come to and kind of like undocked and things like that. But they didn't get, they don't give you any good information on those tours. You're just going to wander, you know. When we're when we're talking. talking about the Mayan culture though my favorite subject of all I think my favorite site and subject is the site called palenki and that's because this is where this very mysterious ruler named lord pical ruled and so this guy ruled around 600 ad apparently and this this site is just it's a beautiful site hidden in the jungle and there's this big

pyramid called the Temple of Inscriptions where Pekal was found inside, I think in the 1950s. Actually found inside the temple, not like in Egypt. Yeah. Right. Actually found inside. And I've seen even some video footage at this site where along the foundations, there's what looks like huge megalithic blocks like you'd see in Peru that almost look like This was the original, original foundations of this site. So, yeah, so Polenke's this fascinating site. Cliff Dunning, who I interviewed, you referenced one of the videos I did with him. He talks about how when you go to that temple of inscriptions, you know, your compass will spin and he can actually fill a buzz from the energy in certain spots.

but there's so much going on with this with this site so Lord Pekal was discovered in this tomb in the 1950s in the main pyramid and he's wearing this crazy looking jade mask you can Google this and find images of this just beautiful ornate green jade mask but his tomb is is massive that he's inside and I think it weighed 10 tons tons, this actual box. The box he's buried in. And again, this is all shrouded in mystery. It's kind of hard to find photographs of this and I'll get to Hawaii. But his tomb looks very megalific. It looks very superior even to the pyramid he's buried in. So very interesting. Similar to the boxes in the Serapium almost. I think it's 12 foot long on the outside. And again, at least five tons. But the lid. of his sarcophagus is what's one of the most fascinating things. Again, when we're talking about hints of ancient technology, because if you Google Lord Pekal's lid tomb or lid, you're going to see the infamous depiction of him sitting on what looks like a spaceship. You know, he's like in a seat. He's almost. Yeah. Okay. I'm looking at it. Yeah. He's like leading back. Yeah. leaning back, almost holding some sort of device. Right.

And so, again, just so interesting when you take this with all these statues, it look like almost a spaceman. Right, right. Now, the oral tradition of the original excavators from this tomb, basically the oral tradition is that this guy was at least seven foot tall. I've heard seven foot three and had an elongated skull. The elusive elongated skull. Right.

So, you know, the Mayan people on average were considered a shorter people like five foot. Here we've got a possible seven plus footer. I've even heard nine foot, but I haven't been able to really corroborate that, but at least seven foot, seven foot three. And when you start to look at the depictions of him that we have elsewhere, this guy has crazy features he appears to have a kind of a big girthy body it looks like he's got a club foot and he's a polydactyl he's got like I believe six fingers on one hand oh wow just like the portrait of Obama did you see his presidential portrait supposedly has a six finger

there's a few other ones too yeah no I'm because I've been talking a lot about you know the the Genesis 6-4 and the fallen angels coming meeting with women. And is this when the fallen angels came and, you know, these Nephlam hybrids came out and the whole blue blood theory. And maybe this is where the elongated skulls come from. There's so much to think about in that, you know, and where they taller, you know, just the kind of characteristics. It's interesting. No, it really is. And then when you look into Pekal's family, they have some of these genetic anomalies as well. So are we looking here at some kind of hybrid demigod ruler of the Mayans in 600 AD? I think it's a possibility. And here's the big interesting part is, so again, this is a major kind of modern day discovery. The actual finding of a Mayan ruler in a pyramid. This should have the biggest

yeah this should have all of the news stations all at the same time ever that we should have the mockingbird media repeating this story yeah right we should have the most photos to see of this this should have the greatest exhibits in the museums nothing if you google a photo of this or for for instance when you go there you only get to see replicas of this stuff number one number two um where's the skeletons you can't find Pekal's a picture of Pekal's skull anywhere. Wow. If you Google images of Pekal's skeleton, the head is blotted out. What?

Yeah. So you'll see a photo of a skeleton inside the sarcophagus, but they've basically blurred and grayed out the head. That's crazy. I just, I must have done it. I'm trying to Google it. And I've got a bunch of like animated skeletons that just came up. That's like it won't even auto correct it for me to find it. That's crazy.

So I mean, they're not going to show us the picture. Then we know that that's that's that's probably an elongated skull. That's something that they don't want us to know. Like immediately we know that, right? Right. Why wouldn't they want to show us the school of one of the greatest discoveries made when we're, when we're talking about ancient anthropology of the Mayan culture? So that's an interesting thing.

So I think there's a whole lot more going on with the Mayans, with the Aztecs, the Olmecs. I mean, these are fascinating cultures. And I definitely want to make sure we got time to talk about the Inca because they're a fascinating culture. And I think they dovetail to a lot of other mysteries that we can talk about. Let's dive into it. And especially since you, this is Peru, right? That's where the Inkins were right in the Peruvian area.

and Machu Picchu and this is where your tour that you're doing this fall is going to be going to and people can actually have an opportunity to go to these megalithic marvels and go to the lands and be there and smell that air and see what the stars look like from that spot it's just it's so cool it's like modern Indiana Jones stuff right hey no thanks for plugging that yeah um anybody can go to megalithic marvels.com slash tours to find out about the Egypt tour or the Peru tour Egypt tours in May and I think registration for that closes the end of this month so

a couple weeks left if you want to jump on that it's going to be an amazing trip private tour inside the Great Pyramid is going to be probably the highlight but we're going to see 20 plus sites and then yeah Peru tour super excited for this this October

and we're going to see all the big sites Machu Picchu Soxia Waman but then we're going to see and this is what I'm most excited about we're going to go explore all the hidden gem megalithic sites that your average tour guide wouldn't take a tour group to some of these sites i've just only seen photos of and always wanted to go and so really found this great tour company that's custom made this tour for me and so we're going to see

it's the best stuff in lima then we're going to go to kusko spend most of our time there then we're going to go south down towards Lake Tudikaka and explore some of the mysteries there. So it's going to be awesome. So let's talk about the Inc. Once in a lifetime adventure. It sounds amazing. It really is going to be amazing. You have a cool. You have a cool job, Derek. You have a really cool job. It's so much. It's like, could you imagine like in school, like your tours and stuff, the field trips were actually like going to these places and stuff and not like the local like history museum where they like i'm from midland michigan so that's the world headquarters of dao chemical so the the tour to go on at town for school is to the bromine like museum where they're like oh there's

all this bromine under the grind it's so boring but anyway you guys hop on these tours while you can uh thanks so much hey we're going to have to get you out on a tour one of these days i know i want to go on all of the tours i really do especially the egypt one it sounds so cool like and i'm just hearing like okay i have a couple more weeks i can sign up Hey, let me know if you're serious. And I talk. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. Let's chat. And also I, I'm a spinole. So I could be helpful on the Peru. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, I actually lived in Costa Rica. I've been, I've been to Tikal and I've been to Touloum.

I know those are mine, but yeah, I've done a little traveling down there. Look. I mean, you should be leading this episode. Come on. You've been to all these sites. I will talk all was amazing. I went. It's in Guatemala.

And I took like a 12 hour bus to get there. I was traveling around. And it was at that time, you could climb up on the pyramids. And there was nobody there. And I just, what, climbed up to one of the tops of one of these pyramids and just sat. And it was beautiful. It was just, it was amazing to be there and just to think, like, these are so old. And like, something happened here.

And like, there was a whole civilization. And I have no idea. And here I am now in the future, just sitting, you know. Did you get to climb up any of those pyramids at Tikal? No, not at to call. Okay. No, that, yeah, there, it took, sorry. I'm not in Tulum. Sorry, not in Touloum. In T'Call, I did. But I don't know why to call. There was just like nobody

monitoring anything. It was kind of like, wild there are these little monkey things, but they weren't monkeys. I can't remember where they were crawling around on everything. And yeah, I was a, I'll send you a picture. Yeah. I've got it. It's on on film. It was back in the film days. That is awesome. Yeah. I guess I'll preface this by saying, when we're talking about the Inca, Aztecs, Mayans, and so forth. So most of these ancient cultures in this region worshipped the plume serpent. The Aztecs called him quetzikotal. Ah, yes. Inka called it Veracocha.

The Mayans called them Kuukukon. So it's interesting that this plumed serpent kind of appears in the archaeological record around 2,000 years ago, kind of in the heartland of the Olmec civilization. And, you know, where they discovered carvings of this snake sporting. That's actually something to look at. The Olmec plumed serpent depiction of it's this snake with a guy inside wearing what looks like almost a spacesuit. So there's another one.

Here it is. I'm looking at. You know, one time when I was doing psychedelics, I saw a Ketsukato like spirit, like come out of a tree. And I would like see spirits when I would take psychedelics. I literally actually a couple times saw what I believe was like a Ketakotel. It was wild. That's crazy.

Yeah, it was really crazy. And then like this big rainbow came out into the sky that wasn't there. And I was just like, what's going on? This is wild. And like this looks like Ketakotel's coming out of the fence. Now he's coming out of the tree. It's so interesting. Yeah.

Yeah, because Quetzakotl with Aztecs, he said to have invented their calendar and really brought the sacred knowledge to their civilization. So all these cultures are infamous for human sacrifice. Yep. And we can get into some gory details of that if you want with the Inca. The River of Blood with it. Yeah, or the Inca's Aztecs, they had like a river of blood that kind of go through the city when they would. Yeah. Yeah.

So the crazy part is the plume serpent deities. And again, they had different names. We're not just worshipped as distant gods, but we're actually credited with founding of these civilizations, giving secret knowledge, living even among the people, and teaching them occult sciences before basically departing over the sea. And the crazy thing is these deities would manifest as these bearded, often as these bearded white men that were tall with blue eyes. So when we're talking about the Inca, again, there's these origins that these bearded white men appeared to them from Lake Titicaca and imparted blessings to their civilization and began to teach them this stuff. And so it's reasonable to conclude that the Inca probably developed from a civilization before them that were advanced. and we'll talk about the paracus culture with the elongated skulls that will dovetail into this.

But yeah, the Inca, incredible civilization. You know, they kind of appeared in 1438 and lasted until 1533 when the Spanish came and conquered them. And obviously they were in Peru and all the way down towards Bolivia. The Inca didn't have a written language. So it's interesting. they didn't leave behind their own accounts. So much of what we learn about them comes from what we learned from the Spanish chroniclers

and people who saw them and wrote about them. Interesting. Why didn't they have a written language? Do we know? Like, you know, like, they just, I mean, is there any other civilization that doesn't, that didn't, like, big like that, that didn't have a written language?

You know, it's interesting. The, well, I guess the Eastern, Eastern Islanders were kind of similar. They did have some... Ooh, the Celts. They did have some wooden writing, but we have never really,

I guess, translated it. Wow. So yeah, it's just interesting. The Inca just really didn't have their own written language we know of. And again, they existed before the wheel, yet they're credited with creating all of this crazy, advanced

megalithics that were used. with advanced technology and we'll get into again who pre who might have predated them i love you're like they're they predated the wheel like all the big invention of the wheel right where modern all this modern civilization people came from our big our lever our poli what are the simple you know and they're like using like magic and like frequency and like all this amazing stuff to build things and we have the wheel yeah so yeah the inca again they're they're going to be credited in peru with building all these these megalithic walls, yet they didn't even have their own written language. And they, at least as far as that we can read ourselves. And they didn't, they were before the wheel.

And it's interesting, Inca refers to not the general population, but actually the highest class of their leaders. Oh, wow. So the Inca wore the royal bloodline. And the crazy thing is to protect their bloodline, they'd breed with each other. Hence the sixth finger, maybe. Yeah. And it's crazy. I've read somewhere that these ruling class leaders, you know, they were all about polygamy and they would, on average, leave behind like 200 children. Wow. I mean, so this is insane. Yeah. That's crazy. They were polytheists. They worship many gods, again, which included Veracotia. And they were famous for human sacrifice like the. Aztecs like the Mayans. In one account I read, I think it was when the Mayan Inca leader Huana Kapak died. This is pretty gruesome. As many as 4,000 servants, court officials, and his favorite concubines were all killed.

Oh my gosh. And put in his, you know, tomb. Whoa. So they would with him. Yeah. So talk about being. nervous, right? Yeah. If you're the concubine or a servant of one of these leaders and he's getting kind of old. Oh gosh. Yeah, it's different times. So they would be buried, yeah, with all of their

favorite possessions. And again, thousands of their their servants, slaves. And again, very brutal just to kill all these people. It is brutal. Like it's okay, guys, line up. Like you're master's dead. so now you have to and be buried. I mean, that's just crazy. I can't even imagine, you know. Right. And so the Inc. Again, the ruling class leaders

were famous for artificial cranial deformation of their children because they wanted to set them apart from the general population. And so that's what dovetails us to talking about the Pirocous culture.

I think the, again, we're talking, talking about the leaders, the royal bloodlines, the Inca, the elites, I think they likely descended or somehow were influenced strongly by the Paracchus culture, which is down south on the coast. And this is where we find these massive elongated skulls. And I don't think we talked about this in our last episode, did we? No, we didn't. Okay.

Yeah, I don't know a lot about the elongated skulls. I always reminds me of the cone heads though you remember the cone head skit well yeah I think this is this is where they're getting it from yeah so in the 1920s proven archaeologist uh Julio tella first discovered tombs in parochus filled with these skeletons that possess the largest skulls on earth and since then we've there's been all kinds more found they all are believed to date between two and three thousand years ago wow again skeptics immediately cry, well, these were just cradle headboarded. Oh, right. Some of them are, like again, some of the Royal Inca we just talked about. Right. But many aren't. And so what's going on is there's two unique different skulls found amongst

the parochas. There's the cradle headboarded skulls, which are elongated simply due to cradle headboarding. Right. On these skulls, everything would look similar to ours except the shape of the skull. but then there's the natural elongated skulls. And these are the ones that feature the crazy anatomical genetic differences. And again, these were the nobles and royalty of this parochus culture that was much older than the Inca. And these naturally elongated skulls, I got to see them on my last trip to Peru, insane to sea. They feature much larger jawbones, eye sockets.

They're up to 50% larger. than ours on some of these skulls. They're missing the sagittal sutures. These are the fibrous connective tissues that go between the parietal plates and the back of our heads. They don't have those. Wow.

Also, their cranial volume on average is 25% larger than ours. And there's some, if you Google the Changos skull at the Ica Museum, that thing's got at least 50% more cranial. mass and the key is cranial deformation it can change the shape

it can't add more cranial mass or volume to a skull oh wow yeah I'm looking at one right now it's crazy it's huge and yeah what's more is the form and magnum this is the hole in the bottom of our skulls

where the neck attaches on our skulls it's located at the balanced point in the center bottom of normal skull but on the naturally elongated paracus skulls it's located all the way to the back bottom of a skull 100% genetic yeah you can't cradleboard that can't change the location of it by headbinding because you would kill the child right and again what's more here's another little crazy anatomical thing on the left and right sides of the back of these natural elongated praco skulls are these tiny little bones that our skulls don't have

And these little bones are called Inca bones by mainstream archaeology because they've also found these on the Royal Inca schools of the 13th century. Wow. So I think this is the link, right, between the leaders of the Inca. I think they were related to the Paracos who probably died out 2,000 years ago. and they all possess this dark red hair. Wow. Yeah. And then again,

to make it even crazier just in the past five years, there's been discoveries of these elongated skulls in Peru and also in Bolivia of newborn infants. What? Really? Born right out of the womb with massive elongated skulls. Yeah.

Bloodline. Massive elongated skulls again, meaning there's no way these were intentionally cradle headboarded. This is this is genetic. Yeah. Is there, do you think that this has to do with blood type too? Like if they,

when they look at the children born at these elongated skulls and there's no way to probably test blood type off of the old, from a skull, right? I don't know a lot about that. No, no, there has been there. Brian Forster and L.A. Marzuli actually did extensive DNA research on these.

Yeah. Took them over five years. I think they sent in 15 skulls and they got, or 18 schools, and they got tests back on 12 of them. And in a nutshell, they found that eight skulls were found to predominantly trace their ancestry back to the Black Sea by Crimea. Wow. And so Brian Forster theorizes that some 3,000 years ago, the ancestors of the Paracus, fled the Black Sea area and headed headed there to the coast of Peru.

And guess what? What? The other biggest collection of skulls found on earth elongated skulls are in the Black Sea. I got photographs of all kinds of them. Where is the Black Sea? That's kind of like Crimea. And Turkey, Ukraine, Romania.

I'm seeing now. Wow. And then they tracing that to, Peru. That's so interesting. It's a treasure hunt. Yeah. So crazy to consider. So that's kind of the backdrop of the Inca and who might have predated the Inca. I think it was these elongated skulls, scold people of Paracas, who again, I theorize, I think this could have been possibly some descendants of a Nephilim tribe. Yeah, yeah.

No, that's definitely. I mean, it all, who knows, right? But when you look at this is Genesis 6-4, you know, when you look at that, studying the Bible, and it's just like learning about what happened here. Like, why did God want to flood the earth? Was he so? What was going on?

It wasn't going right. Or did these hybrid beings somehow survive or however they first got down here? They came back. And there is some kind of, there's something about this kind of nephalim theory. And even with the R.H. negative blood and the elongated skulls, like these different characteristics. And some people have what you would call, you know, psychic abilities that other people don't have. And those almost seem like extra senses. And maybe that's something that came with those traits. Who knows to contact their ancestors that were, you know, in the stars or the, you know, the fallen angels of the gods, the lowercase gods.

it's very interesting to think about the Nephlin theory. I ponder it often. Yeah. Yeah, no. We also have to talk about many tribes of Peru, including the Inca and the Quechuanes. They have oral traditions that speak of the megalis. They're being built by giants. Ah, yeah. There you go. The giants fit in here too. Yeah. And the Spanish chroniclers who, uh, It's crazy. You know, they're chronicling the Spanish conquering Peru. But they speak in a lot of places about giants. And these are well-to-do people of their day, historians, conquistadors.

And so I actually have found a couple of those I wanted to read that are just so interesting. and this is coming straight out of books like the conquest of Peru written by Pissarro. Francisco Pizarro? Yeah. Yeah, I remember learning about him in school. Okay, so this one says... Wait, when it comes to a giant, is there like a certain height where you're that's like that's the where a giant over like through time? What do I say?

Like someone more than seven feet tall or... you know, like, is there just a random thinking? Yeah, I mean, when it comes to studying giants that may have existed in ancient America or Peru or post-flood, what we would call giants, you know, it was usually anywhere from seven to ten feet. Okay. It's kind of the average measurement that you seem to hear about. So like basketball players. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, except for Luxie Bose.

Yeah, seven feet. But again, they usually have anatomical genetic traits, double rows of teeth, often six fingers or six toes. And then a lot of them, yeah, are eight, nine, ten foot. Again, there's stories of 12 footers too. Yeah. So like here's a, this is written from a Spanish chronicler. Antonio de la Kalancha, who was, uh, actually in a got augustine monk an anthropologist so he wrote this in 1663 in his book the moral chronicle of the order of st augustine in peru and again this is just a quote from a broader story he's telling but it says quote on the other side of the village was a very large cave and in it many dead gentiles i think he's speaking of like dead inca and among them three bodies of giants with deformed skulls. Sounds like he's talking about elongated. Yep, that's what I hear.

And they were dressed in cumbia. That's like a ceremonial mummification cloth. These are the progenitors of all this people that worship them. So again, pretty fascinating account that this monk is describing this cave, all these dead bodies in it and set up in there. are these what sounds like nephalim type giants dead with elongated skulls wrapped in the ceremonial cloth it's like they were they were being worshipped yeah i'll read you one more this is coming from conquistador and chronicler pedro zidi leon in 1553 he wrote a book

called chronicle of peru and it says quote this is what they say about the giants which we believe happened because in this region they have found and find steel massive bones. Wow. And again, there's others that talk about finding these, this giant skeleton and a sarcophagus and all kinds of crazy stuff. So so much going on in Peru, but we definitely have to talk about portals. Yes, you read my mind. I want to talk about portals. I was up right in front of me right now. I've got a crazy story to tell. Share. And then an account I can reference that the Inca shared.

So on my last trip to Peru, and again, I guess the biggest thing I got to point out is it's like Egypt on our last episode. We talked about the repurposing where the dynastic Egyptians of 3,000 BC, it's like they came along. They found the ruins of these megalithic temple. and the pyramids, and they tag them as their own and begin to build on top of them and repurpose them. That's why when you go to a lot of these Egyptian temples like Karnak or what's known as the Ramazium, you'll see all that you'll see 80% dynastic Egyptian architecture, sandstone, limestone stuff. It's awesome. It looks cool. And the dynastics were an amazing culture. But it's clear that they built.

in my humble opinion, on this older megalithic architecture based on the tools we know that the dynastics had. Well, the same thing is in Peru. Inca, a fascinating culture, but when you look at the archaeological record, they basically had copper chisels and hammers, right? Yeah, yeah. And so if you go to Machu Picchu, for example,

you're going to see 80% of their artwork or their construction, which is what I call rough stone, small rough stone and mortar construction. Well, if you look, it's built on top of megalithic mortarless foundations. Most people don't realize this about Machu Picchu, the core of the site. And Machu Picchu already is just so incredible

because of its altitude on the tips of these mountains in the jungle. You know, it's just the most epic landscape. Yeah. Yeah, it's stunning. I'm looking at a picture right now. I've always wanted to go. It's just unbelievable. Right. And so Google Temple of the Three Windows and you'll get a great visual of what I'm describing. So most people just see photographs of Machu Picchu and the mountain backdrop and the Inca construction. They never see photos of the megalithic foundations of the site, which are far superior to what the Inca constructed. the nasaries will say well it was all Inca yeah well why wouldn't they've built the whole thing out of the superior method right which is mortarless indestructible anti-seismic blocks right

why would they build that on the bottom and then just put loose rocks in mortar and stones it can easily fall on top of it right right right no those three windows are huge blocks and just right put up just right there right next to each other right next to each other at the top there, but it's just like long, flat, chiseled, huge, heavy blocks. Right. So that's part of the core of Machu Picchu, which I think could go back at least to 12,000 years old. Wow.

So you see all these sites. Soxé Waman is probably my favorite site because this was the, this is where I saw a photograph. I think back in 2012, I might have shared on your last show. I was, this is kind of what got me into this. I was always into history. And one day I was Googling ancient, you know, architecture. And I see a photo of Sox-I-Wamon, these 120-plus tonne megalithic blocks. And I was like, how have I never seen this before?

How did I not read about this in history school? Right. And that connected me to, again, the megalithic civilization and the cover-up of history. But you see these blocks. They go 12 feet underground, even what you see. and again the oral traditions are that when the Spanish arrived and asked the Inca, how did you build this? The Inca said this was here before we got here.

Wow. Just like in Egypt. Yeah, like you were saying, just like in Egypt. And that blew my mind when it was like they inherited this. Like somebody else built it and then they claimed it because they came later. Yeah. And probably one of the favorite spot on my last trip to Peru. it's a site called Napa Hwaka.

So it's up there kind of near Machu Picchu in what's called the Sacred Valley. And again, at these big famous sites, there's just thousands of tourists, right? Well, I was with Brian Forkster and he said, hey, we're going off grid to somewhere. Nobody, we're not going to see anybody else. Awesome. Yeah, so we're excited. Let's go. Yeah.

Let's get our Jeep. Off the grid. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right? Let's stay. the night. This sounds awesome. He takes us to this, this, um, kind of this old ravine in between these two kind of mountainous hills and there's an old railroad track going down the middle. And he said, okay, we're going to hike down this away. And then we're going to just start cutting up the face

of this mountain. And this was like summer. So what there wasn't snow or anything. And there was kind of a trail. So you start going up the side of this mountain. And I mean, this is a hike. And you start to see Inca ruins, you know, small rough stone stairs. And again, that for most people would be mind-blowing enough, right? Inca ruins on a mountain, this is amazing. But there was something far greater up above. And so it got me thinking, man, why were the Inca building here in the middle of nowhere in this ravine on the side of a mountain?

Clearly they found something. Right. And so we go up and up in the distance, you can see. see this cave. And Brian's like, yeah, we're going into that cave. Now, he comes from a different worldview than I do in some cases. So he actually brought this guy who had Inca bloodlines and was like, I think some kind of shaman. And so they, the Inca, even in their time, thought of this site is very sacred, like a portal as we're going to get to. Yeah. And so, before we we get up to the cave everyone's almost out of breath we take a rest and this

inca shaman type guy he's spraying incense and he's saying hey we we want to not disturb the spirits inside we want to uh we want to be benevolent yeah yeah yeah because the spirit world's real yeah oh man what am what am i getting myself into yeah so we So we get inside this cave. It was the most mind-blowing thing I've ever seen. And this is partly why we're going back to Peru. And if you come with me, you're going to get to see this. Because I made sure that I wanted this on our itinerary.

Yeah. You enter this cave. And it's this massive cave where the ceiling kind of goes up in a triangle. That's all natural. If you look to the left, you see this old ink of wall, rough stone. When you pan to the right, you see this, the whole cave wall is sheared off, precision, and it's cut out in 3D with laser-like precision. And there's different layers.

Again, that's why I say 3D. There's basically door cutouts, and then there's this faux or false door in the center. Precision rectangle. in the middle of a cave in the Andes high up in the middle of nowhere. Right, right, right. There's no, yeah, no tools, no electricity, no, nothing. No one brought, you know, high powered drill or power tools with a lung poured. Yeah, their diamond saw.

Yeah. And so you've got this, this wall with this portal looking shape. And you pan to the front and there's what looks like, the best I can describe it, is either an altar or a console. And it had like these, I've got videos of this on my Instagram if you want to check it out. So anyway, it's crazy.

The Incan Shaman is telling us, hey, this is a sacred Inca site. This was a portal where the Inca elites would come and pass through dimensions. This is what he's telling us. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah.

And sadly, the top of this console looking piece near the front of the cave was blown off. Someone brought up dynamite. Oh my gosh. A hundred years ago or 50 years ago and did that. Ooh, they disturbed the gods. Not a good idea. But he told us how that this console aligned with one of the solstices or the sunrise, sun setting and how there was originally a hole in this, sunlight would pass through. And if you see the video I have of this, he bows down. And he's sitting inside one of these like console, he's, I guess, kneeling in this console like seat thing. And he said you'd press your forehead.

And again, at the right time of the year when the sunlight goes through, this basically, you know, activate something. Yeah, yeah. And so we're all going, wow, okay, whatever. This is cool. And he's like, now we're all just going to sit down. and he goes, let's just meditate and basically, he basically said let's welcome the spirits. Wow. Wow. He starts beating a drum. And, you know, most people are like meditating or in a meditative state.

And I'm looking around going, man, what did I get myself into? The next thing I noticed, this was probably a couple of minutes in. You know, it's, you know, it seemed quite in peaceful. You know, you're in this mountainous cave. Yeah. This nice drum is beating and he's telling us to just relax. All of a sudden, this guy lets out a blood-curdling scream. Oh, wow. Yeah, scares us to death.

Oh, my gosh. Because he was scared to death. We look, yeah. We look over and this guy is flailing his arms like he's being attacked. Whoa. And people, you know, we rush over. to him like what's going on how can we help you and um when he basically settles down he tells the craziest story he basically says i was meditating you know as this guy was telling us to my eyes

were closed and he basically said he saw a entity it was either a jaguar some kind of jaguar or Puma come out of that portal and enter him. Whoa. Or jump on him or attack him or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I understand. Yeah. Yeah. Where he was scared out of his mind, you know, I mean, embarrassing himself. I don't think he'd make this up to embarrass himself like this in front of us. Right. Right. Right. Screaming uncontrollably. And to me, this was just fascinating and showed the correlation here of some of what we're dealing with when we're talking about megalithic ruins, portals, the Inca, and how it dovetails to present day the spirit world, right? Yes.

Yes. No, you're sharing this story. And I don't know how much I've shared with you about my experiences with psychedelics in the spirit world. And I didn't have any foundation in God or, you know, I wasn't a belief. I'm a believer now in Jesus. I don't do this stuff anymore. But I was for a long time taking psychedelics and seeing the spirit world and spirits, I mind melded with spirits. It's a real thing. I've seen a gray. I've seen that come out of somebody. I've seen spirits like Ganesh. Like I know how the eyes are portals and these things like what Alistair Crawley did and the Amatria working. All that stuff is real. Like this, it's the spirit world is not. I call it's like the wild wild west. Like God's like, be careful. Don't go there. Like don't worship these. other these lowercase gods because you don't really know what you're getting into what you're seeing like that jaguar you're saying that like that reminds me of like a hellhound or something or some kind of gatekeeper you you

know you guys are in this like really sacred grounds you don't really know what you know really what it's for what was going on but it was set up a long time ago very specifically for a reason for kind of ceremony and so it doesn't surprise me that like their spirits in the spirit world kind of guarding that area but that is what the spirits do they can jump into you like it I believe, this is my personal belief. If you're believer in Jesus, you're filled with the Holy Spirit, you cannot, these spirits can't come into your body. But if you're not, and when I wasn't, you know, I had the capabilities of being a medium

and these spirits will jump into your body. They'll speak through your mouth. You'll see them. Sometimes I've seen the energy of them, like on the outside of my body. It's, it's the, I believe the spirit world is an energy realm. All those dimensions are accessible through the energy realm, like through the third eye and meditation and all these things. So it's, to me, that's, that story is very.

real and fascinating and that just shows that these locations, there are portals. They're built on specific spots very specifically. And, you know, the spirit world is, it's there. And it's a wild, wild west, as I've been calling it lately. We don't know what, you know, what's going on there. Yeah. And it's, it's so interesting how it seems like there's, again, just in what I do, talking about ancient history, it's, there's so many people into the energy and into what that means in the spirit realm. And again, these aren't what you would call Christians, right? Right. And so people go, I mean, and if you come with me to Egypt and Peru, you're going to see people that do engage in some rituals. And, you know, I can't control all that. Yeah.

But people are drawn to these megalithic sites because of the energy. So yeah. Yeah. No, totally. When I, I mean, I can't tell you how many people I knew when I was in like 2020 when I kind of got into that new age sort of group and like mindset that wanted to go to Sedona. They wanted to go to Mount Shasta, you know, because they're portals.

They know that these are energy points and the, you know, lay lines cross. And even where I live here in Austin, Texas, there's a lot of limestone right underneath the heart of the city. And they, you know, the pyramids were covered in limestone. And limestone is kind of like they would call it like a solar plate here that Austin also has laylines that cross. And there's a lot of energy here. Tesla just moved here. Like it's certain places hold certain energies. And they're mapping like even Washington, D.C. is like set up in a certain way and on lay lines and all the obelisks, you know, around the world are set in certain places. Like, and you'd be a fool to not think that energy and frequency in the spirit world and all of that is actually a very powerful. real thing that's going on, but they're not teaching us about this stuff because they're holding it for themselves. They're, you know, they're using it though. It's, that's, that's like, to me, that's where the, the big text came from was from the spirit world. Well said, well said.

I don't think I could have said. I don't think I could have said that better. Yeah, it's, it's so interesting to consider that, again, my research into obelisks. And we don't have time to go into that now, but why, why and how there's a massive obelisk in Washington, D.C., perfectly aligned. It sets into the Capitol Dome. It's a sex magic ritual every day when they're set. It's more than just for looks, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, and the Washington monument, I think it's 555 feet tall, which is like, goes like, denounces to like 6,666 inches or something crazy. Like everything is set up perfectly. It's, and there's a, there's a, There's an obelisk in like the Vatican, right? And then there's one in London. And then that probably

makes a triangle that's some other kind of portal. And it's really fascinating. Like I would love to chat with you more about obelisks next time. I have to have you back on the show again because I love talking to you. There we go. We'll do an obelisk show. Yeah. Well, Derek, thank you so much for guiding us on this journey right now in the metaverse to all these different places and the lost histories that we aren't taught in school. And it's, to me, it's fun. It's like going on a like, like I was saying, kind of like an Indiana Jones adventure, like chatting with you and talking about these things. And so if anybody wants to find you, you have your website, megalithic marvels.com. You've got a really amazing YouTube channel, Megalithic marvels, your Instagram. You're always putting out

awesome content, doing interviews all the time. You're very active in learning and seeing what the new discoveries are and sharing them in a way that makes sense. So thank you because it's so complex that I need it. I need it. The way you share is awesome. But Derek, thank you so much for coming on the show.