Megalithic Marvels - Giants of Ancient America / Travis Roy

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

The Bible and ancient manuscripts such as the book of Enoch, the Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as historians such as Josephus and Homer - all spoke of a race of giants that once walked the earth in ages past. Whats more? The writings of many Spanish Chroniclers, countless 20th century US newspaper reports and the oral traditions of almost every ancient culture around the globe confirm this phenomenon of a race of mysterious hybrids. From the elongated skulls discovered in South America that feature up to 30% more cranial volume than conventional human skulls, to the giant skeleton bones of the mound builders un-earthed in North America, the evidence can no longer be ignored... In this episode I sit down with Travis Roy - explorer, researcher, historian and founder of the popular Instagram account "Giants of Ancient America." Travis shares about his interesting journey that led him deep into this controversial subject. From countless hours spent scouring the digital archives of America's oldest newspapers, Travis shares many of his most incredible findings that reference the discovery of giant skeletons in North America. And being a native of the great state of Texas, Travis not only tells us about his shocking local explorations, but also shows us the GIANT footprints and axe heads he has unearthed in his home state...Follow Travis on Instagram & Youtube Join me on a Tour

Well, I am excited to be joined by researcher, historian, owner of the Giants of Ancient America Instagram account, which I've been following for years now. And somebody I'm really looking forward to hanging with at the Blurry Creatures BlurieCon this October. And that is Travis Roy. Travis, thanks for your time, man. Hey, it's great to be here with you. Yeah, I've been enjoying your Instagram account for years. I think I started following that.

When did you start that? That had to be years ago. Yeah, it was 2013 when I started it. Oh, wow. Yeah. So you were on the cutting edge. I feel like you were, I noticed you following me and liking my content like way early on. I remember finding it and it was just so great because you were aggregating all of these accounts of a subject I'm fascinated with ancient giants that we read about in the book of

Venoch, Genesis 6, many historians as we might get into, talk about ancient giants and all these newspaper accounts we have, right, from the New York Times and these major publications from the late 1800s to early 1900s are talking about giants being discovered and it seems like almost all 50 states. So super pumped you here, man. Let's start out by asking you, what took you down this rabbit? of ancient giants that once roamed the earth. Yeah. So it wasn't when I was a kid when I read or my father might have read the story of David and Goliath.

It wasn't that. That was always there in the back of my head. What it was was around 2010, I had gone on a deep dive into the Celtic people. I was curious of who they were and kind of a long story short. I kind of traced them back into the caucus regions. But as I was doing that, I noticed that they had this megalithic trail of standing stones, stone circles. And you find these in like the country of Georgia, right, in the caucuses.

And they go right up. And you have different styles of Dolmans and stuff. You know, but changes with the area. as they travel along. But as I was into the Celts, I came across like little hints that there were giants among them. And so that fascinated me.

So then I bought a book by Fritz Zimmerman and he kind of made a connection as well to like the biblical lands. So that's how I kind of got into it. I started doing my own research like I went to, chroniclingamerica.gov, and I just started looking at different newspaper sites and doing it for myself, really, at first. I started an Instagram account then in 2013. And I was like, man, I need to start putting this out there so others can see this too. So that's how it started.

How did you then come across the fact that these same legends of giants were from in North America? Well, that's kind of, I started with the Celts, and then once I started to get on that website, it was bringing up a lot of them in our area. So I guess really how it happened is I came across the giants with the Celts, but I also noticed that there were burial mounds in America when I started to do the deep dive.

And that's when I was like, okay, what is this culture? Because it seems to have encircled the globe with a similar, trait of like erecting a burial mound to their deceased. No, it's almost like an ancestral worship. Like they just heaped up this mound over their kings or queens or leaders or chieftains. And so that's kind of how it got. And, you know, to that point. So whenever I'm researching this site, it's bringing up a lot from America, from our area. So the United States. But not only, You know, so you'll find stuff like I'll, I'll find something maybe from Peru or Egypt. And so that's why I label it Giants of Ancient America.

And then just in the bio, I was like, and from around the globe. Because really, wherever they're at, I want to kind of, if I find something, I want to, like, put it out there. But tell us a little bit. You've done all this research through the chroniclingamerica.org website, which is kind of like a library of Congress, digital archives. Share with us some of the more fascinating. accounts, headlines, you can even read articles. Because again, this isn't just me making this up or Travis, this isn't him reading stuff.

He's written. This is stuff from big time publications back in the day. So what were some of the more interesting finds that you came across if you want to share that or read those? Man, we can go anywhere around the world. That's what's kind of, that's what's hard about this is where do you, where do I want to start? Let's hit this one here. It's kind of a longer article. And I want to point out, too, that some of these articles are from newspapers that no longer exist or were bought out by a higher or a more modern newspaper. So this is from 1900 and it's the tombstone epitaph.

Now, it's called Remains of Giants and Stories of Prehistoric Man found in Arizona. Wonderful stories are told about Arizona and Mexico. A prominent scientist is telling the New York world about the tribes this territory relates the following. Legions of the Indian tribes of Arizona and northern Mexico team with tales of a race of giants who once lived on the Mesa's. Scientists say that prehistoric man was a little hairy creature, bearing closer resemblance to a monkey. than a man. Dorenism enforces this belief. But the finding of a prehistoric skeleton in the Grand Canyon of Colorado would authenticated, overthrow all the arguments of the scientists. So we get into like this discovery. 40 miles from Flagstaff, Arizona, Hull, the guide, has unearthed a pet,

A Mastrophied skeleton of a man whom estimated to have been at least 17 feet high. An old Indian led him led the guide to the human monster's tomb. The skeleton lay face downward on a shelf under a protruding rock. The right arm was extended. The left leg was missing. The right leg had been broken off at the knee, but the foot was found lodged in a crevice nearby. Lime stone or lime water falling on the corpse had turned it into stone.

The outline of the body was perfect. Hull did not turn the fossil over to make any accurate measurements. He and the old Indian studied the stone skeleton for 10 minutes and then returned to the trail. So that's just, that's a very fascinating one to me. And that area is just covered with accounts of, you know, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. It was just covered with different accounts of giants. I mean, that's one of the biggest I've heard of 17 feet long petrified skeleton. Did it say if it was in a cave or was it near our river? What was that part?

It was like it was almost like a rock overhang is what it was saying. So like a picture like a cliff with like an overhanging rock area where it just been laying there for like a lot of years. But an older Indian guy led the guide to it and showed it to him. That's crazy. So it sounds like it was almost exposed. Maybe at one time it was buried, but it had been exposed and was just kind of lying there. Right. And this is in from the 1900s, correct?

Yes, 1900. Yep. Crazy story. Yeah, because that's another dovetail with this topic is the legends of the Native Americans. and I've written a lot about the Lovelock Cave story, and that all really originated from the Paiute Indians legends of this race of red-haired cannibalistic giants right there in northwest Nevada, right? Yes.

And everybody thought that was back in the day just, you know, fancy wives tales until the archaeologists went in there in this huge cave that I've visited a couple times and found thousands of these artifacts and large skeletons with red hair attached in their own field guide it says that yeah and that's pretty amazing

I mean that's that's great evidence because it's not just you know and some people recently said how do we know you're not using AI which that this is just like a few years ago I was like oh my we got to deal with that now no these aren't AI you know I started back in 2013

like way before that was probably thought of. It seems like you're usually good at giving kind of the link or referencing as many details as you can. I try to do the same as well. Like I'll link to the actual article so people can click on that themselves and see this as an AI or something I made up. Well, that was a fascinating article.

Give us some more. This is great. This one here, I won't read the whole thing, but it's, it's, well, I'm not read it. It's kind of long. But this is a report from 1871. This is Ontario, Canada area. It's also reported, I found it twice. So one time it was reporting the Chicago Tribune.

And in that one, it actually states the headline of that article was 200 skeletons of Anacom, which I thought was fascinating because it actually, they made a connection to the biblical giants, you know, whether or not they were the actual. anicum, but like descendants probably, right? So here's another one from 1871, same report, an unknown race of giants. Here, now I might butcher some of these words because I'm not from the area, but near Cuyunga, Ontario recently,

the Reverend Nathaniel Wardell, Mr. Oren Wardell of Toronto, and Daniel Freidenberg, were digging on a farm of the latter gentlemen, which is in the banks of the Grand River, in the township of Cuyunga. When they had got to five or six feet below the surface, a strange sight met them, piled in layers upon top of the other,

some 200 skeletons of human beings, nearly perfect, and around the neck of each being a string of beads. There were also deposited in this pit a number of axes, and skimmers made of stone. In the jaws of several of the skeletons were large stone pipes, one of which Mr. O. Wardell took with him to Toronto a day or two afterwards. The skeletons are of those of men of gigantic stature,

some of them measuring nine feet, very few of them being less than seven feet. Some of the thigh bones were found to be at least half a foot longer than those of a present known man. So that one's kind of a fascinating one to me, because there were so many in one spot. They were digging on a farm. Sometimes these don't say it was a mound,

but sometimes they were mounds. Most times they were mounds, even if they're not stated as such. Good point. Yeah. So they're digging on this farm. It could have been a mounder's saying, and they find 200 plus skeletons

measuring from seven to nine feet, and it says that only a few of them were actually under seven feet. So this is a huge cache of skeletons with stone pipes in their mouths. Yeah. That's what. Yeah, some of them. Yeah.

Which we know that the stone, that that's a thing. You can go to any, you know, Native American museum that's around, you know, in our areas and see the stone pipes still, right? Like you see them on display. You just don't see who the people smoking them, right? you just don't see that anymore. Yeah, some of these effigy pipes found in these mounds, whether it's Ohio or I think it's Moundville, Alabama area.

These are elaborate pipes. And I've seen one. I've got a photo of it. If you're watching by way of YouTube or Spotify, I'll put the picture up. But it looks just like a Mayan artifact. You know, if I held it up and said, where is this from? You'd say that's from Mexico.

So tell us, do you have any thoughts on the connection between what looks like this Mesoamerican Mayan influence with some of these artifacts in America that have been discovered? I haven't done a deep dive on that connection, but I will tell you that I have come across an account where it said it was like a battle. it was somewhere, and I don't, I wish I had that one in front of me, but I can tell you about it. A battle of like 75,000 skeletons were found in one area, and I want to say it's Middle America somewhere. And the thought was that this must have been the race of mound builders fighting with, like you said, the Mayans or Aztecs. I think it might have been Mayans, though.

No quote me on that. But so, yes, there does seem to be, and I've wondered that as a. well. So I've come across, you know, I have one right here where you have like skeletons of, I don't know if you see this, but giants found in northern Mexico. So there seemed to be a lot of travel up from Mexico into the southern U.S. And these are some skeletons of giants found that were 10 to 12 feet tall in a cave in northern Mexico. And an interesting side note that they they told us about here is that their feet, like they actually measure their feet.

And their feet average 18 inches to 20 inches in length. So, you know, so whenever I find or look for like giant footprints in like riverbeds, I kind of know if I see a 20 inch that he's going to be somewhere around 12 feet tall or something like that. But there has to be a connection of these. mound builders to you know the Mayans and the Aztec type or or pre-Myans or pre-Astech or what you know whatever actually is going on there so I mean there's so much so much different things we could

talk about related to the subject you just mentioned footprints so I got to ask you you posted some fascinating photographs maybe a couple years ago now of I think it was your feet standing next to it looked like giant footprints in Texas somewhere. Yeah, so here's one. There it is. You can see some, well, the big toe right here. It's kind of hard to see. There's water.

I wet it out with, I cleaned it out with like a brush. And then I wet out the actual imprint with just water and a paintbrush so you could see it. Because otherwise, it just looks like a bunch of cement. So once you see that again? Sure. So that makes sense. Yeah. So this is just, um,

in stone is this large footprint. You put some water in there so you can see the contrast. And then that's your foot on the next to it with your pat leg, right? Yeah, that's my foot. I wear a size 12 or 13. So that's a big foot. Okay. You got to give us the backstory on this, man.

How did you find this? This is somewhere in Texas. Yes. Did it did an article that you had read spark you to go on this? journey? Actually, no. So what happened is Nate Henry from Blurry Creatures contacted me, and he had come across a book online called Valley of the Giants. I don't know if we can see this. My lighting is, okay, there we go. Valley of the Giants, written by a guy, I think it was published around 70 or 71, somewhere in the 70s, by Dr. Cecil Dordy. And basically,

he started researching the dinosaur tracks, but also a lot of the old timers in, you know, kind of south of my area in Glenrose, Texas, had been telling him of giant man tracks. And so he went on a search for a few years and finally discovered a lot of them. But, you know, you have to wait until there's an extreme drought because, like, right now that river is not dry. And so, like, the ones I found in 2023, I won't be able to see until there's another drought. out. Oh, that's wild. Yeah. So, yeah, so that a lot of these pictures and photos that I have and found was from summer of 2023. So anyway, Nate said, hey, why don't you go check this out? I was like, well, you know what, I've never heard of these man tracks around here. So I was, it's like the next weekend I was down there, like searching for them. And I found a lot. How excited were you

to get this information that this, these possible footprints were not far from you? Oh, it was amazing. Yeah, it was amazing. But the thing is, so like I went to that riverbed, but the one I just showed you here is not from that riverbed, but one maybe, you know, 20, 30 miles away from that river. And that's this place where I do a lot of hiking and researching and stuff. And oddly enough, across the river from where this footprint is, there are what appears to be hundreds of burial mounds. Like it's government land. It's the Army Corps owns it. No one really goes over there. And I was just hiking. It's kind of creepy on that side of the river. And one summer I was over there and I came across just mound after mound after mound. And I talked to an older guy that grew up there.

I said, what do you know about all those strange hills? They're made by humans. But what are they? And he's like, oh, I was told that those were old Indian mountains. And I'm like, okay. So you have the footprints. So whenever I came across the footprints, I was not surprised because I already had seen, already had seen mounds, what appeared to be mounds. And there was also a megalithic structure that I had discovered too in that area close to the river, which is a few tons rock erected up on another rock, almost like some sort of a boundary or marker.

And that didn't land right there. And so it was erected by some strong individuals. And so I started connecting the dots here. So I have footprints. I even find what appear to be massive axe heads. And so I have a collection of over like 100 axe heads. They're all strangely shaped like tomahawk heads. They're just primitive looking.

Do you have any axe head you could show us? Yeah, let me spin around here. Now this one. And they're very primitive looking. That is huge. You can kind of see there's a strap mark right here on the back. It's where they strapped it. This thing weighs 30 pounds.

So, but there's, they're all over the place as far as like, sorry, my face is turning a little red. But I have a handful. I have another 30-pounder behind me and a 20-pounder. Gosh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. So from what I'm seeing, when I look behind you, and look at those two stacked on top of each other.

They almost look identical. They are identical, and I found those two within about 100 feet from the other. You're saying this is an ancient, very weathered axe head. Yeah, that's what appears to be. 30 pounds that would have been swung by a very large entity, if we want to say that. Plus, you're saying you found a balancing rock or some kind of ancient megalithic structure. mounds and footprints. Yeah, all in the area.

So you have to kind of, it becomes like a puzzle. And all the pieces fell in and now it's a picture almost, right? Yeah. So, yeah. And this is in the greater Dallas area? Yeah, it's south of the Metroplex.

You know, but you have to think there's like Rockwall, Texas, north, in the middle or northern part of the Metroplex. And I want to travel over there pretty soon. And check out some of the stones for myself. There's a museum. where they have removed part of the wall and reassembled the wall. And you can go look at it.

And I want to go just kind of put my eyes on it maybe here pretty soon. You know, Texas, when we read these articles, again, you read a lot about mounds in Ohio, Alabama. Texas isn't often a place where I see headlines other than rock wall. So to me, that's fascinating. Now when we consider how old these might really be. and again you take into account the weathering it's fascinating in my mind how most people

will just walk by this and think that's just a rock or junk and you're connecting the dots to these ancient traces of possible hybrid race so i mean i got to ask you one more thing when you were going up to that footprint did you like notice immediately this was a giant footprint or did it take you a little bit to kind of put the water in and go okay, I'm looking at something. Yeah.

I had to train my eye for it, for sure. So I had been hiking that creek bed towards the river for a long time, but I've never was looking. And like some of these footprints now in the book, Valley of the Giants, there was just one footprint of his is like perfect with a perfect toe. And I've actually had somebody send me a picture. that they have found on the same area where we're talking about of even better looking toes than I've discovered myself. But like because of what I do, people that follow me, they will reach out sometimes and say, hey, look what I found.

And this is that same area. So what you can typically see is it looks like it was muddy, but not so muddy that the person sunk down like 10 inches, right? So the imprints may be about, you know, an inch deep or half inch deep. And so it wasn't super muddy, but it was muddy enough. And then it dried out for long enough for it to turn into cement. So whenever I saw it and then like, for example, this one here, I don't know if you can see this. There's a couple I have highlighted here are wet out. Now, these are really long footprints.

Some would argue, well, those are dinosaur footprints. You know, I'm not sure. A lot of what I've seen with these giant footprints, their toes seem to me almost straight across the front, not like mine more or angled a little bit. But who's judging giants for real, though? Like, we're not really looking at one. We don't get to see them on a daily basis.

So we don't really know what they looked like. And so a lot of what I find are they're almost flat at the front instead of tapered, which is strange. Well, and you know what, though, with the other ancient, suppose a giant footprints I've seen around the world. They often do have almost flat across the top look and maybe the big toes a little bit bigger. But yeah, that's interesting that you note that because I've seen that around the world with these other footprints that are supposedly in the sides of rocks. And they're often kind of this flat look.

So when you saw that footprint or whenever you saw your first real big one, did you get like the tingles? Was it like, oh my gosh, I've just discovered this? Was this just kind of like, eh? Yeah, I did. No, I did for sure. And there's, I don't know if I have it here. There's one footprint I've never shown to anybody. The thing was so wide that my foot could fit sideways across the toes.

Wow. So it was actually wider than my foot is long. And you could see the toes. And you could almost tell that there could have been six toes on the thing. I don't have that one. with me right here. But when I saw that, that was amazing. I didn't have to wet it out.

You could see the toes really, really good. Now, you couldn't really see, I could kind of go back and find the heel. So a lot of these, you'll find like in a trackway. You will find, like one, you'll have one that's better than the others, right? They're not all the same.

It's because of where they're actually stepping. But you can find enough of each footprint. And I can, I can find one, locate one, and I will find the next one. And then I'll say, okay, that's about seven feet, heel to heel. Okay, and then I walk off another seven feet and I'll look, and there it is, right? And so I found one trackway down in Glenrose that he had like six or seven footprints. And I followed his footprints as he walked from the center of the river to the edge like where it would have disappeared into the grass.

And so, yeah, when you, dude, I was so fascinated. And I was in 2023, I almost had like a, I had to make myself take a break because I was just, just running out of water. It was so hot, but, like, I couldn't stop. Like, I just couldn't stop. I was, like, finding so many of these impressions everywhere. The adrenaline was just kicking in. Yeah.

I'm just putting myself in your shoes. I mean, I am jealous. I don't live in an area like that with, you know, stuff you can go 30 minutes away and look. Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm lucky because of that. But, you know, I think a lot of it has to do, a lot of it has to do. Well, one, they were there. but two, the limestone.

So if you have any bedrock around where you're at that has a limestone base or something, or maybe even a sandstone, you know, it doesn't hurt looking around, you know. Right. But, you know, one thing we don't have here is like what you focus on a lot is like the cyclopean type walls, a megalithic walls. I'm not seeing a lot of that in this area, but I did find what appears to be burial mounds. And this one megalith, I had a buddy years ago told me he's older. than me and he's like when I was a kid I went down this river and we went on a hike and I saw this

big balancing rock I was like man you've got to take me to it and he couldn't remember where it was at but it's in this general area and he also said when the river was down he saw some sort of strange riding on the cliff wall like look hieroglyphic or something I was like man I've got to get out here and find this stuff wow so in all of your research have you come across Any elongated skulls being unearthed in America? Yeah, so I have, and, you know, sadly there's not a whole lot of pictures. Like last night I just, I haven't posted it yet, but I did uncover an article about Catalina Island, and it actually had a picture of the skeleton, which 7 foot 8 inches from the head to the ankle.

but a lot of these will describe the skull. So I'm kind of get a picture of what, and most times they say, they say that the skull resembled more of an ape because it had no like forehead. And like it, it angles straight back from above the eye socket. So like, you know, no flat, you know, flat skull or a forehead. It just kind of angles slopes back. So to me, I kind of translate that into being some sort of. sort of elongation.

Without actually seeing it, put my eyes on it. Yeah. Any other strange artifacts that you want to share that were referenced in relation to finding giant skeletons and mounds or places? Yeah, so a lot of times copper was found with them, beads, different types of beads. but copper was and Micah, like Micah, which is some sort of like a thin slate was found. But whenever I come across articles with like copper, copper armor or copper bracelets,

to me that suggests that it's a really intelligent race of giants or something like that. We're not looking at like Bigfoot or something like or an ape or something. And so some people say, well, how do you know, what are you finding, right, when you uncover this stuff? You know, to me that suggests that it's very intelligent humans or a humanoid race. It sounds like you trace all these giant, alleged giant discoveries back to Genesis 6, correct? I do. Yeah, I do. So kind of give us a little bit of your theories on, you know, Genesis 6 or the Book of Enoch. How do these giants go from what we read there to North America?

So I kind of follow the theory that there was like a second incursion. And so the ones I guess I'm mostly focused on, I think, right? Some of them may be from first incursion. But like from the ones that came from the Holy Land, you know, when Joshua entered the Holy Land, right? So that's kind of what I believe that these are as they traveled around. So, you know, there was a war. Joshua conducted the war when all the Amarite kings came to fight against Joshua. Really, not Joshua.

They, you know, they made a treaty with Gibbeanites and which were somehow related to the Amorites. Well, all the other Amirite kings decided to go against them. And so Joshua was kind of pulled into this battle. But, you know, I think God had an idea of this was going to happen. So, but you know, the sun stands still. The Lord God hurls large hailstones, and they don't all get killed. A lot of them do. They're like really scaled back a lot.

Some escape to their cities, fortified cities. Some move to Gath. And then later, that's where Goliath is born. But, you know, I often wonder, did some of them just flee the area? Like, just totally get out of the Holy Land or Levant. and but also it seems to have happened where the northern kingdom of Israel interming you know they were told not to intermarry with these canaanites and amorites but they did not listen and they kept giving their daughters and you know getting into marriage

with covenants with those people and so I think there was just a it was just like a hotbed of like different types of people living there in that area where I don't think a lot of people think of that. So it seems to be that maybe there was a mixture. And then we know that like the northern house of Israel was kind of, they kind of dispersed. And so there's different ways that these peoples or these giants could have like maintain their bloodlines or just escaped and like spread around the globe because it seems to have done that.

Yeah, it's so interesting. You know, when people kind of, the skeptics, you know, when I'm talking about giants or posting about an article. You always have the skeptics that say that's just all, you know, fairy tales. But again, I go back to, we've got very ancient texts like the Bible, especially Genesis 64, talking about there were giants on the earth in those days, meaning the flood. And also afterward, that's that second encouraging that Travis was referring to. I even did an article once, top 10 or 20 Bible verses on giants.

It's crazy actually how much the Bible speaks of these giants. And it's very descriptive. They were the enormous stature. They had extra digits, you know, six fingers, six toes. And then you have secular historians like Homer. I think his famous giant quote is, on the earth, there once were giants. And then he wrote, you know, other texts that talked about giants. you have Josephus saying in the first century that there were giants on display in the museums of the day

that they were basically insane to look at and they were known to be crazy to the hearing. So we've got secular historians verifying what the Bible says, what the book of Enoch says. And we have just the, you know, the Greek mythos. they're all giants that they're talking about. It's like they're taking what the Bible in the book of Enoch are, you know, describing and like embellishing it into this superhero Marvel comics world. But they're all giants, you know. And then we've got all these newspaper articles like we've been referencing from the late 1800s, early 1900s describing giants, 8 foot, 9 foot.

Travis shared a 17-footer in that one first article. And then we've got these footprints all over the world and even in Texas, giant axe heads. Again, from my research into the Lovelot cave story, they found giant pestles right out the side of the mouth of the cave that were that big. Oh, my. You know, so there was big, giant artifacts. there. And then you throw in, I think my final piece of evidence, I would say, is the elongated schools in Peru, the Paracchus skulls. Like Travis said, there's even been elongated schools found in North America on Catalina Island. I've got that same photograph as well, and it's clearly

an elongated skull. And not that all of the elongated skulls were on giant bodies, but the point is they were some kind of hybrid entities. They're missing. sagittal sutures, blah, blah, blah. There's no way it was 100% human in my view. So it was like the old world was this Narnian world, right? Full of giants, hybrids, chimeras. And that's, I guess, the evidence I give to people is that there's a whole lot more going on than you were told in your history books.

Man, there's so much more, Travis, I want to ask you. Is there anything, any way you want to steer this? I know you mentioned Peru, and I'll just throw one article real quick. It's just a very, it's a clip of an article from 1900, The Brush Tribune. I focused in on this part. But there are plenty of giant remains. Travelers in Peru tell of monster human skulls found at Chencal, 30 miles north of Lima. Of this race of giants, a tribe lived on the island of Puna in the Gulf of

guy quill their skulls and weapons are in the smithsonian institution yucatan indians have a legend of the giant navapok who tripped up belated travelers by lying down across trails so that's just like it just throws out that it basically admits that there were giants in peru um when you mentioned peru i thought of this article i kind of wanted to bring up um but i know you were one to talk about burial mounds too and we were talking about Josephus and different travelers and stuff there's a traveler from Baghdad in the year 922 named ibn fadlin and he was traveling of for caliph to the king of the vulga bulgars and he talks about seeing some so like a gigantic type of people they were dissent from vikings or viking northman type people

he said, I saw how the Northman had arrived with their wares and pitched their camp beside the Volga River. Never did I see a people so gigantic. They are tall as palm trees, floored and ruddy of complexion. So I looked up his whole writings, and I found it fascinating, and this is where we kind of get into burial mounds. And the bury mound tradition, these people here, they were actually doing a ship burial, and they actually cremated them. So you wouldn't find the remains, right, like a skeletal remains, but not all the mound builders did cremational burials. But it was fascinating to kind of read this account, and towards the end, it says, Thereupon they heaped over the place where the ship had stood something like a rounded hill and erecting on the center of it, a large Bersian post,

wrote on it the name of the deceased, along with the king of the northman, and having done this, they then left the spot. So he stood there and witnessed their whole ceremony, which is kind of wild. But they erected an earthen mound. He was just fascinated by what they did. And so here you have some supposed some people, at least some of them among those were gigantic in 922. And they erected a burial mound, you know, once they did all the rights, ceremonial rights. That's something I want to point out. like, you know, so just around the globe, you have these burial mounds. And like, you have an account here in, this is in Florida. And just, just to connect giants with burial mounds, you know, that seems to be like we had that one that was just left laying on that cliff. But who knows, he could have been injured. He could have been, he could have been killed and just, that's where he died or something. He might have been in a war or something. We don't know, right? But here is an account from 1933.

The Evening Star Newspaper Louisiana Skeletons of Giant Indians unearthed in Louisiana Parish This is by the Associated Press So a lot of times they'll

collaborate together newspapers with each other Which I highlighted that Because that's something that's still A thing today is Associated Press Natchez So it's in a Louisiana parish but Natchez Mississippi is where it was

the article was written from. So June 23rd, skeletons of Indians estimated to have been more than seven feet tall have been immersed unearthed by explorers of Cattahoula Parish, Louisiana. A search for locations for study by members of the Smithsonian Institution disclosed from 15 to 20 of the skeletons in a grave on a mound at Larte Lake. The discovery was made by Dr. E.A. bites hopped, an E.W. Knight, and was regarded as contributing to the theory that the prehistoric mound builder once lived there.

So here you have them, Smithsonian individuals coming here to Louisiana. And they discovered what it's saying, 15 to 20 giants. You know, John, okay, they're around more than seven feet in height. So that's not massive. but yet it kind of is because a lot of times they're not just seven feet most of the time when you have a seven footer his shoulders could be like three feet wide

so a lot of times when these giants are discovered their bones are thicker they have different skulls their bones are compared to many times to horses bones and thickness and most of these articles will do that or say their teeth were like as thick as a horse's tooth and then they're they're supposed by being an inch thick or more.

And so we're not talking like regular humans. Like there was something else here. And the mound builders, they obviously had a tradition of mound building around the globe. I wanted to share with you this article. You might have heard of this one before. The headline is, more big Indians found in Virginia.

And it goes, this is a New York Times. article from 1871. And it says this, the workmen engaged in opening away for the projected railroad between Weldon and Gersburg struck Monday about one mile from the former place in a bank beside the river, a catacomb of skeletons, supposed to be those of Indians, of a remote age and a lost and forgotten race.

The bodies exhumed were of strange and remarkable formation. The skulls were nearly an inch in thickness. The teeth were filed sharp as are those of cannibals. The enamel perfectly preserved. So I love the intricate details in this article. The bones were of wonderful length and strength. The femur being as long as the leg of an ordinary man. The stature of the body being probably as great as eight or nine feet.

Near their heads were sharp stone arrows, stone mortars, in which their corn was brayed, and the bowls of pipes, apparently of soft something soapstone. The teeth of the skeletons are said to be as large as those of horses. One of them has been brought to the city and presented to an officer of the Petersburg Railroad. The bodies were found closely packed together. Oh, and it says there was no discernible ingress into or egress out of the mound. So there we go, another mound. Yeah.

Isn't that a fascinating article? Yes, that's that. I don't know why. I just feel like, I don't know, it just, my adrenaline just gets to pumping so much when I hear articles like this. And that, that's just amazing because there's so much detail to it. And you can kind of picture what their life, what they would have looked like in real life. just based off of that whole account. Yeah, it's so detailed.

It just said perfect enamel. And that is something also that is in a lot of even these elongated skulls that are found in like Russia or the Caucasus region. It's like they always have perfect teeth. So that's another interesting thought. But then, yeah, I love the description into the teeth were filed like they were said they thought they were cannibals, almost like these were. These were crazy. Yeah, some of them were, though, right? Like, we go back to the Lovelock Cave and they were like, they were trying to eat the Paiutes.

Or maybe they were eating some of them, right? And that's kind of, and you have the Carib Indians, right? The Caribbean Sea is supposed to the Caribbs were some sort of race. And I really needed to do a deep dive in that. But I've heard that they were cannibals down there, you know, the Caribbs. So yeah, that's not good, right? That's not good. We brought up the Smithsonian a couple of times.

Let's talk about them. Okay. You know, again, a lot of these discoveries were made by the Smithsonian. A lot of these articles, you know, they'll often say, so-and-so discovered this skeleton or this artifact and they sent it to the Masonian or they called them the Smithsonian. And then we know just from known history, the Smithsonian, which is like the archaeological wing of the government almost, right? They came in and flattened most of these mounds that we read about in these old articles.

Yes, there's still some mounds today, but the great majority of them have all been vanished and literally excavated by the Smithsonian who took all the artifacts. And if you ask the Smithsonian, basically, their kind of public stance is that there were no giants in the olden days, but their own writings say there were. So tell us, what are your thoughts on the Smithsonian? Is there a Smithsonian cover up? Is that a real thing? And how do the mounds relate to the giants? Let's talk a little bit more about that. Mm-hmm. Okay, so I, you know, starting out, like, I would, I would be very careful, like, when I was starting this, I went in 2013, I would like, I would not post, I originally would not, I would only post the year. I would not post the article, like, I wouldn't post the newspaper because I didn't want it to be, like, destroyed. That was my mindset back then. But then so many people started to ask me, like, what newspaper is that? So that was kind of,

of my thought. I didn't want, if there was an actual problem with this subject, I, you know, I just didn't want it to like go away, you know, so that was my mindset back then. And that's a great thought. So that's when you go back to the very first of my account, you're just going to have, you're just going to have years. That's it. You know, and, and I thought, well, why not? Why not just put what it is? Because people do have questions. They want to go see it for themselves. So anyway, that I, as I research more, I did come across an article in 1891, Pittsburgh Dispatch. And it's kind of a long article, but basically what is the point of this article in the newspaper is, it's about dug-up skeletons. But basically, the Smithsonian Institute

of Washington, D.C. argues for the right to excavate and display prehistoric skeletons. So they had been in some state, Ohio. They were up in Ohio, and they were excavating mounds and getting skeletons. But somebody in Ohio didn't like that. And they were saying, don't you need to call the coroner or something? They're like, no, we don't need to do that. And so here they are arguing that my point is they were arguing for the ability to do this and display them.

1891. Then 1895, I came across an article where the Smithsonian bought out a dime museum. So this dime, little dime museum was being shut down. And there was a, there was a mummy that was about nine feet. And they sent multiple people different, different times to verify if this was a real mummy. And it was. And so, All the experts who have examined the giant mummy, which is nearly nine feet in length, think it is a curiosity fit to be placed in the National Museum. So here we have them purchasing one in 1985. And then we fast forward to 1935 or 34 in the Waterbury Democrat. Washington, and it says UP, I don't know what that means. that's like a newspaper. The Smithsonian Institution is fed up on skeletons of prehistoric human giants. And Dr. Herdlica, or whatever his name is, curator.

Yeah, it's a weird one, man. I wish he had a different name because I have to say it so much. It's a tongue kisser. Yeah, it is. It's horrible. But anyway, he's a curator of anthropology. He makes no bones about it. So here we basically translated is people,

just because for whatever reason, they were tired of covering giant skeletons. That didn't stop people from discovering them. Like, you know, that one you mentioned, they were building a railroad. So that's in Virginia. But as they were going westward, you know, later, like early 1900s building railroads, they were coming through these burial mounds. And then they would get called or notified. And they were just getting tired of it for some reason.

So to answer the question is their cover up, just in these three reports, you can kind of build a picture of like they're wanting to find them. They are finding them. They're wanting to display them. And then all of sudden, something in the 1930s, you just don't have a whole lot of reports after that. Yeah. And so. Yeah, you're right. It's right around that time, the 30s, 40s.

It's like the newspaper articles kind of dry up. It's like somebody sent out the memo from the top. Don't write any more articles about finding giants and skeletons. And shortly after, you know, they started to pass laws. You've probably heard of the Nagapur law. Yes. It stands for Native American, I think, Graves. Yes.

Repatriation Act. It basically states that anything found that's old in America is of Native American origin and must be repatriation. or buried. Yeah. Meaning that's why you don't see any of the stuff in public museums. They don't want you to see it. It's all being repatriated.

And sometimes it seems like the Native Americans are even saying, screaming, this wasn't us. This is not us. This wasn't ours. Right. But it's like the powers that we are using them as an excuse to cover it all up. Any thoughts on that? No, I think you hit it right on the head.

That's what I think too is why they're doing it. And yeah, and it does by coming up with that, that law around 19, I think it came about around 1990, that actual law. But yeah, that actually does kind of keep any more investigation from happening. And you are right that a lot of these natives did say like we didn't we didn't do this. This stuff was here already. Or maybe they live side by side with them. And they will tell you that, right? That the old timers will.

The ones that still pass down the oral traditions will. Did you ever hear of, you ever hear the Kennewick man? I did. Yeah, I've heard a little bit about that guy. Was that Washington State or? Yeah. That's my state here. When I was a kid that was the big world news and local news was Kennawickman Discovery.

And it was all over the news I remember as a kid. And then you heard about it for the next decade because there was all these legal battles. It was basically, if you go try to hunt down the original photos and archaeologist records, Kennawickman was like this ancient European. there's some rumors that even had an elongated skull that it was possibly seven plus feet tall. But again, the mainstream community says, no, this is Native American,

and it must be repatriated. And if my memory serves me right, you even had the Native Americans, that was one instance saying this actually isn't us. All that to say, Kennewick Man was repatriated. kind of not far from where he was found. And if you go to the museum over there in Kennewick, Washington,

saddest museum you've ever seen, because it should be, you know, the display is like nothing to see here, basically. It says Kennewick, man, there's a little case with a replica of the skull, and a replica of the skull is like that big. Oh, they're almost making it look like it was miniature. Oh, weird. That's strange.

Yeah, when the original photographs seemed to show that it was actually larger than normal. Is there any final thoughts you have, anything else you wanted to share we didn't get to before I ask you, how can people follow you and stay up today on all your research and new projects? Yeah, I think we covered, I think we did really good covering a lot of topics within this subject. Yeah, I know. This is fascinating, man. So did I hear a rumor that you're coming out of the book? Is that true? Yes.

Yeah, I am. Yeah, I've been working on a book for a few years now. So it's, it's getting close. It's getting close. And what I'm going to be doing is kind of compiling a bunch of these articles together. And so you can look at that. I'm just going over giants in general, you know, just for people who may not be, you know, into where they are, know, where they came from.

So just the theories of that, all the articles, maybe some giant footprints and whatever I've kind of come across. And yeah, we'll just see. It's getting close. Yeah, it's a lot of work. Any other more upcoming projects that you're working on? And how can people follow you? We've got the Instagram channel. Is there anywhere else people going to follow you?

Yeah. So I have a Facebook with the same name, Giants underscore of underscore Ancient America. but I do most of it on Instagram, but I throw stuff up on Facebook as well. And as far as upcoming projects, the main project is the book. And then I keep plugging away on research, though. Yeah.

So who knows, I'll find some more cool stuff to put in the book before it's like, you know, stamped and like done. So, yeah, that's where you can find me, and that's what I'm doing. It's awesome, man. Please tell me you're going to have some photos of your footprints and the giant axe heads in there and all that good stuff. I will. Yes.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's going to go in there. Hopefully I can find some more. Yes. Will everybody watching or listening go to Facebook, especially go to Instagram and follow the Giants of Ancient America account. That's Giants underscore of underscore right? Ancient. Ancient America.

Ancient America. Yeah, yeah. Ancient America is just one long word. Got it. Follow Travis. He's got great. And what's so cool about the account is you don't have to do all this

research yourself in the digital archives. Just go to his Instagram account and read it right there. He makes it so simple. And then in the description, he gives us some comments as well. So Travis, this was awesome, man. Thank you so much for your time, and I'm looking forward to seeing you at BlurieCon this fall. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that too. Thanks for having me today.