Megalithic Marvels - In Search of the Tower of Babel / Robert Edward Grant

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

In this exclusive interview I am joined by author, inventor, explorer, historian, CEO, polymath and host of Gaia’s “Codex” series Robert Edward Grant. For the first time ever, Robert reveals his ground-breaking research that has led him to the conclusion that the infamous Tower of Babel mentioned in Genesis 11 was actually located on a high plateau in Egypt where a very mysterious ancient site reveals the ruins of a massive structure that was destroyed by a violent force. From observing clues hidden within ancient maps and manuscripts, while simultaneously visiting this little known site north of Giza, Robert goes in depth to share why he believes that the city of Babylon was not located in Mesopotamia, but literally within the gaze of the Great Pyramids. Follow Robert HERE JOIN US FOR ONE OF OUR 2024 ADVENTURE TOURS HERE

Stargate Voyager. Well, it is great to have Robert Edward Grant back for another episode. The author, inventor, Explorer, CEO, really so much more. Host of Gaia's Codex series. Robert, thanks for coming back for another interview. It's good to be here with you, Derek. Always, always happy to see you. Yeah, and I saw on USA Today's one of their recent posts,

you were included in one of their top entrepreneurs for 2024, so big congrats. Thank you very much. Yeah, I was I was really humbled, I guess, to see that. And, you know, I think it was mainly for my work related to building Orion, which is a really exciting new app that I just shared with you. And it's kind of a whole new paradigm in social media that doesn't exploit any of your data. Yeah, it's pretty incredible what you're showing me. And I'm really excited to get to jump in Orion app and be a part of this. And so I definitely also wanted to just, tell you, thank you for your courage in being a leading voice for free speech and all this data, privacy and data security, because it's getting crazy out there, isn't it? Oh, man, you know, I think there were already a lot of predictions on 2024 being kind of like a watershed year and watershed moment, right? And I think we're definitely seeing that. We just had this eclipse. You know, we've got wars and rumors of wars in the Middle East and Ukraine.

But, you know, these are things that could easily conflate into something much more significant around the globe. And we've never had a time where it's more important that we maintain both our individuation and our unique viewpoints on how we see the world. We need to speak up and say exactly how we feel and play an active role in our future. Otherwise, you know, you know, things will just happen to you. I used to say when I worked in the corporate world, I used to say there's three types of people. People, you know, some people make things happen. Other people watch things happen.

And then there's a third group that wonders what the hell just happened. And you don't want to be in the third group. I think sometimes it's okay to be a bit of a spectator on the sideline, but you also have to know when it's time for you to step up and take some risk and make a difference in the world. And, you know, I'm honored that I've had many opportunities to be able to be in that position in different companies in different capacities and invention

and all these different areas that you mentioned. But I think if there were ever a time that the world needs your voice and all of our voices, it's now. The pace of discovery all around the world now is so fast. And it's not just our team. It's people like yourself and others. We're all waking up to this.

And everyone is playing a part in this. This is not just, you know, one group and I don't believe that this age is meant to be consolidated around one leader or something. I just don't. I think that this is supposed to be an age of sovereignty where everybody gets to be a leader, but no one has to be the leader. The age of overlords and what that represents is over. And I gave a speech at the United Nations.

You can imagine they let me speak at this place, right? Oh, wow. The last two years. And I got up and literally said, how many of you think they're literally? the earth still needs overlords. And I'm speaking to a group full of overlords. That's fascinating, that you got to say that kind of stuff to the United Nations? I said it to the Vatican.

I spoke twice last year at the Vatican. I'm speaking there again in a month. I'm getting knighted by the country of Portugal and by Italy. I was already knighted by Montenegro. So I'm like, I'm in such a unique position where I get to stand at the intersection between two disparate worlds entirely. my own experience with censorship and it seems like it's getting worse and worse it's awesome that there's new inventions new technologies and apps like you're creating with Orion to get us the

ability to think the way we want to think and speak the way we want to speak so I'm really excited to dive into that and I've really enjoyed following you Robert in the last handful of years since I first heard about that discovery you made inside the king's chamber of the great pyramid with the alpha and omega symbols. And so I started that really caught my attention. And then we did an interview that a couple years ago was great. And then since then you've made several trips back to Egypt. And that I've been enjoying your research and your postings regarding semantics and sound resonance, geometry.

So there's so much to talk about. And I know you've been making some new discoveries lately inside the King's Chamber. So I'll kind of let you start this out wherever you want to take it. What do you want to share with us? The original name of Egypt, that area, was not Cairo. It was Babylon. So if you go back and look at maps from the time of Jesus Christ, you'll find that there was no Cairo around at that time. There was Heliopolis, right?

And there was this Maadi, which, you know, means calendar. It's directly east of the pyramid complex, across, you know, right across the, the Nile River. And actually, when I was in Florence, not too long ago, I found a map on the wall in Galileo Museum. Right. So the Galileo Museum has a big map in there, and it's called the Fra Mauro map. It's actually a facsimile copy. It's like a very, very highly detailed, perfected copy of another map that's in another location. But it's the same map, and it shows the world in 1457. And what's interesting is that when you look at the area around Egypt, and it shows it from if you're like looking down on the world from, you know, the top of, say, Europe. And you look down, you would see the Mediterranean, you'd see Italy and the boot, and you would see Greece.

And then if you go a little bit towards the north on the map, even though it's not north in our orientation, it's the way it was oriented on the map, you see Egypt. And it doesn't mention the name Nile River on the Nile River. The name it gives to the Nile River is Gihon, which you might remember from the Bible. Because in the Bible, the place of the Garden of Eden is where the four rivers meet, right? So the four rivers were purportedly the Tigris Euphrates, the Pichon, and the Gihon rivers. Right. Now, if you go back to history with Herodotus, the great scholar, right, as well as the scholar Josephus,

they both said that the Gihon River was the Nile. So how it became the Nile, it only becomes the Nile when you get down well past, you know, deep into Sudan area. But all the way into that area from what we would consider the northern part of Egypt or what we call lower Egypt, all the way to Upper Egypt, the Nile was called the Gihon River. And Gihon is a reference to gushing water. So gushing water, and this is all a reference as well to the, the son and the grandson of Noah from the Bible. So you remember that Noah had a son named Ham, right?

And the son of Ham was Kush, said to be the leader of the Kushite people that eventually got control of all of Egypt. So they were down in the Sudan area, and the Kushite people include what we would consider modern-day Somalia, Ethiopia, and, and, all the way, of course, into Sudan and southern Egypt. And these people, the Kushite people, were black people. And they got control of most of what we consider Egypt today. So these would be the black pharaohs.

You probably heard about this when you were down in Egypt, probably around the Valley of the Kings area. You know, Muhammad talks about this a lot. I know you work closely with. But what's most interesting about this is that he had a son, Kush had a son, who became a great ruler, and his son's name was Nimrod. Nimrod is famous in the Bible for building the Tower of Babel. Right.

Okay. Now, the Tower of Babel was supposed to have been built on the shores or the banks of the River Guillaun. Now, we today believe that Babylon was located in what we would consider, you know, Mesopotamia in the Fertile Crescent. But we never found the city. archaeologists never found the city, and there's great debate on where Babylon actually was. Well, the funny part is, is that when you look at Leonardo da Vinci's letter to the Sultan, to the Devet Dar of the Sultan of Cairo, it actually says to the devet dar of the Sultan of Babylon, Cairo. Because this whole area next to calendar is Old Cairo, and the name of Old Cairo was Babylon.

So now we have the Tower of Babel was built by a Kushite by the name of Nimrod who wanted to be like God. And so my research, and I'm actually presenting this later this summer at the ancient civilizations conference for Gaia on this whole concept of the Tower of Babel. And so I had very recent discoveries related to this. And I believe that the Tara Babel Plateau was actually in Egypt. And it's actually a place called Abu Rwash today. Oh, okay. You didn't expect to hear anything about this, did you? No.

Okay. So I have not talked about this on any podcast yet. I made some brief references to it on a podcast I did with 19 keys. but this is really fascinating because about eight kilometers north of the Giza Plateau is the plateau that's the highest in the whole area. It stands 300 feet higher elevation than the Giza Plateau. These are the most northern pyramids in all of Egypt. There are no more north pyramids than this in all of Egypt.

And you could think of the Nile or this ancient Gihon River that means. means gushing like Kush people. And there were never Kushite people in Mesopotamia. So why they ever believed it was Mesopotamia doesn't make any sense. You'd have to cross the entire Saudi Arabian Peninsula and get all the way into Mesopotamia. That's a long, long way from Ethiopia and Somalia and Sudan where the Kushite people were from. Right? But you can get the 800 kilometers north to get to Giza. It's not that far to go from Luxor or Aswan to get up to Giza. Not so far at all. but and if you look at it you know the story of the tower of babel is that the building was supposed to be

the largest building ever right was supposed to be this super tall building that somehow the builder of it Nimrod who's also known as Orion right because he's represented by the constellation Orion that this this building you know and he wanted to become like God so he was going to build a building that would reach high into the heavens well interestingly God wasn't happy apparently, as the story goes, and destroyed the building. And then at the same time, confounded the languages. Because what, you know, it's kind of like the same thing, right after Genesis, where God says, okay, Adam ate of the knowledge of the tree of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And so lest he reach out and eat now the tree of life, the other tree in the guard of Eden,

let's put cherubim in a flaming sword to protect the way so that Adam will stay away from this tree, the tree of life. Because if he does eat it, then he'll live forever, right, in his sinly state. Well, with the Tower of Babel, the gods, the Elohim, they said, oh, we don't like that this guy, Nimrod's building this tower up to heaven. You know, maybe he thinks he could be great like us. And so they apparently not only destroyed the tower, but also confounded the languages, because until that time, there was only one language on Earth. We don't know if that was telepathy or what, you know?

And so basically, the Tower of Babel was supposedly destroyed. Well, if you go to Aberawash today, that platform stands 300 feet higher than where you would stand on the Giza Plateau. And you could see it. It's only 8,000 meters away. That's not that far, five kilometers, right?

We can see off in the distance pretty easily, especially in that area, probably like 25 to 30 miles, right, in the distance, even though they've got some pollution and haze and everything. But this is exactly northwest of the Great Pyramid Complex, and it's right off the corner of the Great Pyramid. So you just go directly northwest, and it's immediately across from this place that is called Babylon. That's the part of Cairo today called Babylon. And there were two pyramids there. The first pyramid is the larger of the two, and it has a 60-degree slope angle. Now, these pyramids were destroyed. Nobody knows how they were destroyed.

There's about 20 concourses still there, and there's a gigantic deep cavern or pit. It looks as though the pyramid exploded from the inside out. The outer casing stone was all rose granite. So only the Menkari pyramid on the Giza Plateau. has a granite casing, right, along the base, but it's not all the way up. This pyramid had an entire granite casing. So that's not easy to build a casing stone all out of granite. And it would be very expensive because this was a particular type of granite called rose granite, 55% quartz crystal. So you could say this is literally a quartz crystal pyramid. It's the same material that the sarcophagus

is made out of in the King's Chamber, where only the sarcophagus is made out of. We're only the sarcophagus is made out of that. There are small segments that are also rose granite inside of the, you know, the antechamber, for example. So you get the better resonance in the ante chamber, that little crawl space that you step up into and then you just ohm and it's like, wow, super powerful, right? The residence is incredible. That's the most fascinating, one of the most fascinating parts of the whole pyramid is that little chamber. That little chamber is one of my favorite places to be, because it's got even stronger resonance than the sarcophagus, right? It's like you're walking into a sci-fi futuristic movie.

It's like a cleansing before you go into the King's Chamber. It like washes you with this vibration that like it's so powerful. Well, basically, if you look at the Aber Rosh Plateau, the two pyramids, the one that had the 60-degree slope angle, which is an equilateral triangle. So it's literally shaped like the equilateral triangle is called the Jed-Fray pyramid today. The reason they called it the Jed-Frey pyramid is because there was a large pit next to the pyramid that they thought may at one time have housed a solar boat. And because there's a solar boat that they believe was placed by Jed Eifrey, right, who was the grandson of Kufu, right, great-grandson of Kufu,

then you would have the same type of thing, right? So there must be some solar boat there. So maybe Jet Eifrey built this pyramid. pyramid north of the Giza Plateau. So, but I actually have a different thesis. Jed is a reference to raising the Jed, the Jed pillar, which you probably also heard of in the Wajets, you know, the Waz Scepter, right? It's raising the jet as taking the energy up the spine, the kundalini,

to awaken all of the energetic centers in the body. What's interesting about this is maybe they called it the Jed F-ray pyramid, simply because historically it was always called the Jed. Right? It was always called the Jed area. That whole area was known as the Jed pyramid. In addition to that, there's a smaller pyramid that's immediately angled to diagonally from this pyramid, so corner to corner, and they're very close together. This pyramid has a very steep slope angle of 67.38 degrees. It happens to be the identical same pyramid as the one on the dollar bill, on the great seal of the dollar bill. So imagine the dollar bill with the eye of providence on it. It's the exact same pyramid shape.

And in fact, the first five concourses have the exact same number of blocks as the one on the dollar bill. And the rest are gone because the pyramid also exploded. Now, the rose granite casing stones are littered hundreds of meters all around this pyramid. So you've got two pyramids that represented very significantly in esoterica, the five Philosopher Stone. So there are two references that we have philosopher's stone. You've seen the equilateral triangle version, which has a circle and a square, right? So you've got a square that's inscribed inside of the equilateral triangle. Then you have a circle inside that square. I'm sure you've seen this before. That's called the philosopher's stone reference. But there's a second philosopher's

Stone that also got prominence because of a fellow in the 17th century by the name of Meyer, Michael Meyer. And he made this version of it where it shows this guy with a giant compass standing in front of a wall and a man and woman standing inside of the circle and the square. And the angle on the pyramid is very different. The pyramid angle is 67.38 degrees. So it's not a equilateral triangle. It's a 512-13 triangle.

So 512-13 is a Pythagorean triple that's unique because it's the only one, the only triangle, that has the same perimeter as its area. So 5 plus 12 plus 13 equals 30, right? And then if you take 5 and you multiply it by 12, it equals 60 and take one half of that to find the area, then you would have 30. So the area is 30 and the perimeter is 30.

30. This is the perfect triangle. It's like a portal. And this is known as the portal of time. So the two pyramids that are standing atop this Jed plateau that references God realization in the name, Jed. The two pyramids were made of granite casing stone, rose granite, specifically, because there's 55% quartz crystal content. And these two pyramids are exploded out hundreds of meters by huge blocks. And I'll show you the video for this in just a moment. And they both match exactly what an esoterica is considered the philosopher's stone. The achievement of hemisynchronization of how we think and perceive the world. So using both hemispheres of the brain. The pyramid with the steeper slope angle represents the pineal gland and the pyramid

with the equilateral triangle represents the pituitary gland. And those two inside your brain through breathing techniques can be made to touch each other, just like Adam is touching God's finger, right, in the Sistine Chapel illustration, the mural on the ceiling. So I believe that this was actually the Tower of Babel, as it sits in the place that was known as Babylon, and that what would we consider today as Babylon, is just a Mesopotamian town,

none of the ziggurats were close to this size. Now, put this in perspective, if you're standing on the Giza Plateau, because the Jed Pyramid, the larger of the two, is 300 feet tall, and it's 300 feet higher, its peak would reach to 600 feet. The Great Pyramid reaches only to 481.

This would have been 120 feet higher than the Great Pyramid. Imagine how colossal that would look. with a 60-degree slope angle, that would look unbelievable. And remember that the Great Pyramid was already recognized as the highest building in the world for at least 4,500 years, if you believe the dynastic story, and probably well over 10,000 years

if you believe any of the other alternative stories. So this building would have stood way higher than the Great Pyramid. And of course, if you really wanted to build a tower to heaven, you wouldn't build it on a lesser elevated, you know, elevation. You would build it on one of the higher elevations. So I'm really excited to share this with you because I think this is a story that is going to really defy our understanding of history and really change a lot of things. Because, you know, we're starting now finally to understand our true history and our true nature. This is fascinating because you're saying this may be the actual location of the Tower of Babel, of Babylon, not in Mesopotamia, but here in Egypt north of what's modern-day Cairo.

Are you seeing this guy walking up the hill? Yep, I can hear it too. Right, very easily. So that's Giza off in the distance. And then you can even see the step pyramid. That's the great pyramid, right? That's the great pyramid on the left, yep. It's like that.

Now, first of all, look at all these blocks. See all these giant blocks out here? Mm-hmm. These were all rose granite exploded from this pyramid. How did it get all the way out there? I mean, look at the size of these things. This is like the most unrearched place that I know of in all of northern Egypt. Then also right to the front of the pyramid on the diagonal of it is a smaller pyramid that I mentioned, the same as the dollar bill.

So you're literally looking down on the pyramid because even though only, you know, less than a third of this pyramid still remains, you're still at a higher elevation. So, I mean, you see these blocks. These are big blocks. They're all rose granite. It's unbelievable. And then this is the one, and this is the casing stones are missing off this, too. There are still some left. But, and, and, and this is the one that's got the 67.4 degree angle, right? along the front and also matches the dollar bill. The number of blocks is matching the dollar bill exactly on the front side of this. On that little pyramid right there. Yep, on this little pyramid. This little pyramid was so steep that it stood 103.7 feet high.

So these are two pyramids that look down on the Giza complex. And this is Abu Rewash, right? Abu Rwash, yes. Now, is this also near Zalwai, Al-Aryon, I believe it's called? It's another inverted pyramid. Muhammad calls it Egypt's Area 51. No, it's not.

That's on the military base. That one's on the military base. They won't let you there. But is that nearby kind of? Because I know that's north of the Giza pyramids. Yes, but I think it's north, it's to the north, more to the northwest, but kind of in between these.

Right. It's so fascinating. yeah, what's north that, like you said, is barely researched. Because that other pyramid, the Muhammad refers to as Egypt's Area 51, he talks about how that's also got the word Stargate, Sabah, basically embedded into it. Yeah, he told me that. Yeah, his name of his company is Sabah, Saboteur. So, which I was like, Sabatour, that's a great name, the Saboteurs.

Well, this is groundbreaking stuff. I mean, if you're saying that the Tower of Babel, may have been right here, literally an eye view of the Great Pyramid of Giza. That's what I believe. And the evidence is mounting in this direction. Biblical scholars have always believed that there was something wrong with this story about being in Mesopotamia. And I think this is actually a true example of whitewashing history, which I think is really problematic.

I never thought I would say such a thing, to be honest, right? But I think that's exactly what's happened in this particular case. Maybe what the reference is to confounding languages, maybe there was a period of time where we were of higher frequency. And during that period of time, we had access to telepathy. And then as the Earth moved into the cycle of more of an iron age, then we lost our ability to practice telepathy. You have any questions, first of all, on this whole Tower of Babel thing,

because it's so fascinating that this was all missed. One thought I had about Nimrod. I can't remember what Hebrew word it is, but it basically says that if you read it in the Hebrew that Nimrod became a Gabor or Giborim, which in Hebrew is closely related to the word Nephilim, which if you're looking into Genesis 6'4, you know, these were basically this hybrid race. Many would call them giants.

So it's interesting that, you know, Nimrod, I believe his name also means builder of cities, mighty warrior. Again, there's a lot of theories out there that he might have been even some kind of hybrid because of that word gibberim, which is closely related to Nephlin. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think he achieved a level of, you know, probably enlightenment or something. something that was closer to like a God man and he's immortalized. You know, in different traditions in Hungary, for example, they celebrate Nimrod. They say that he received his bow and arrow from God himself.

So if we look also at the time of Jesus, this is a map from the time of Jesus when Jesus fled into Egypt to escape the extermination order for the first born male children that was issued by King Herod, right? And there's no Cairo, but you've got Mahdi, which is calendar,

and Babylon. So Babylon today is still, it's still called Babylon there. Why we automatically assumed that Babylon had to be somewhere else is really kind of mind-blowing. Now, this is the map that I mentioned by Fra Morrow, and the one I found in Florence.

And if you look, a couple things stood out to me. Number one, here's Egypt looking at it from the different orientation. Right. So this is north and this is south. Right. Right. But you see the river, the tributary is basically emptying into the Mediterranean, and it's called Egypto.

And you can see the pyramids here, which I'll come back to in a moment. But you've got the name of the river is Guillaun. It's not Nile. And this map goes back to when? 1457. So this is pre-Christopher Columbus. Wow.

So remember, the Tower of Babel is supposed to have been built next to the Gihon River by Babylon, which was also established by Nimrod. And now the other thing I noticed is that there are five pyramids here. One, two, three, four, five. Now, that's also interesting because there was a French explorer who in the 18th century drew out illustrations of there being four pyramids in Giza. So where's the missing pyramid? I mean, I can't imagine that he just like added a pyramid for fun. You know, so there's this is what got me thinking after I saw this map in the first place.

I'm like, what is this all about? And then I did research and found that Josephus and Herodotus, both the big famous scholars from, you know, antiquity, both said that the Gihon River was the name of the Nile. I mean, this was the Kushite kingdom here. It was never in Saudi. It was never in the black space where we can't even see because that's where Babylon would be today if we reckoned it. but the father of Nimrod was Kush and supposedly the father of the Kushite kingdom. You see how this is all coming together now? Fascinating. When did you start connecting these dots? Was this just the last year? Yeah, just in the last year. And did that map that you just showed me there, that was kind of your first tip-off?

Yes, that first map was the first tip-off. if I started doing more research and just following my intuition, another name for Gihon is Ghisan, right? Babylon sits upon the river of Gisand sometimes clept Nile that cometh out of the terrestrial paradise. Out of the terrestrial paradise. That was supposed to be where the Garden of Eden was. That Babylon, the less, where the Sultan dwelleth in the city of Cairo that is nigh beside it.

Be great, huge cities, many and fair. Now, if we look in the story here, the first biblical mention of Nimrod, Table of Nations, he's described as a son of Cush, the grandson of Ham, great grandson of Noah, as a mighty one in the earth, a mighty hunter before the Lord, just as you were describing. This is the Tower of Babel, right? And interesting that's even depicted here is having kind of a similar angle of assent. So there are no tall ziggurats that are taller than the pyramids. The Hungarians named their constellation after biblical Nimrod,

great-grandson of Noah, mighty hunter before the Lord. And he was not a bad guy in the Hungarian story. He was a hero. Another thought I'm having is, you know, with what we're learning about, you know, the true purpose and function of the great pyramids, you know, likely some sort of holistic energy devices. And when we're talking about the Tower of Babel,

As Muhammad Ibrahim, our Egyptologist author and tour guide points out, you know, how Saba, where the word Stargate is just mentioned all over Egypt in these pyramids. It paints the picture that the tower was so much more than just some staircase up to the sky. I mean, it was likely 3D. It was a portal of some sorts, I believe. These discoveries, especially surrounding Egypt and now Babylon, as you discussed, are just fascinating. and I'm really excited to get this information out and awaken more minds. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, so great to spend time with you, my friend,

and you're definitely invited on a trip with me to Egypt. And not wait, and I can't wait to get on the Orion app. We'll get that cooking. Totally. It's time. You know, it's all about freeing our voices, and that's why we built it. And it's almost doing its own. You know, I didn't name it Orion.

Someone on my team did. And I had no idea. how the convergence would all come together. And now my next season of Codex is coming out in a couple of months. And it's epic. I mean, I actually give everyone a tour of the inside of the Great Pyramid through virtual reality. And it's totally real. It's amazing.

I had to get filmed in this box. It looked like Vitruvian Man's box with 96 cameras on me and everything. It was nuts in three dimensions and four dimensions for movement. And it's called Metatron Revealed. And the whole thing is about the story of Orion and the Heroes' Journey. of Orion, which is just a representation of humanity itself. Going from this conqueror who is all about scarcity and control and power to learning that the most important aspect of being here is the realization that love trumps at all. That enlightenment is when the expression of love that you

have supersedes and exceeds your desire for one objective truth and being right. An enlightened person doesn't have to be right. They choose love instead. Well, well said. Well, for everybody watching, listening, follow Robert. His website, Robertedwardgrant.com. He's on Instagram at Robert Edward Grant. Anywhere else you want people to follow you and to keep up to date with everything? Codex. Codex Season 1 you can find on Gaia. It's also on Amazon Prime. And season 2 is coming out sometime this summer. cannot wait well thanks robert so much for your time and wisdom and uh courage and we'll uh talk soon okay talk to you later bye bye thanks