Megalithic Marvels - Lynn Myers: Geopolymer VS Ancient Precision Tech

Episode Date: November 17, 2022

In this episode, Derek Olson of Megalithic Marvels, sits down with researcher & author Lynn Myers to discuss how megalithic structures were made. They discuss the geopolymer theory, the ancient pr...ecision technology theory and give many examples that can be seen throughout Egypt. You are not going to want to miss this! SHOW NOTES Lynn's book Lynn's article Egypt Tour Follow Megalithic Marvels on the following platforms: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/megalithicm... Blog - https://megalithicmarvels.com/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpiP... Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/megalithicma... TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@megalithicmarvels Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/10186... Twitter - https://twitter.com/MegMarvels

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Starting point is 00:00:06 Marvels. Well, I'm excited to be joined by Lynn Myers today. Lynn is a researcher. He's an author, and he's really become a friend of late. Lynn, thank you so much for joining me today in Megalithic Marvels. Oh, Derek, thanks for the opportunity. I really appreciate your work, and it's good to be your friend. It's glad to meet you on the Egypt trip. And by the way, the plug right off the bat, there's another one coming up next year. If you've never been, it's on your bucket list. Man, you need to do it because it's awesome. Hey, thanks for that shameless plug. I guess it wasn't shameless.
Starting point is 00:00:45 It wasn't shameless because you gave the plug. There you go. Yeah, you and I first met just this last February on our first annual and Megalithic Marvels of Egypt tour. And I just felt like, man, we connected in so many different ways, had some great conversations on the trip. And then I eventually recruit you to be an admin in our Facebook group because you were, I saw that you had joined.
Starting point is 00:01:07 and then after seeing some of your great posts I basically recruited you to write an article for megalithic marvels.com and when you sent me the draft, dude, it was this huge article like 16 pages and I'm thinking, this dude's a serious writer.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And it was so great, we had to break it into two articles which we're going to talk about today. And then the next thing I know is as I'm publishing these articles, is you're announcing that you are actually an author and have a book on Amazon. Like, dude, what is going on? You're full of surprises.
Starting point is 00:01:44 It's just all happening quick. I've got a biblical worldview, as you know. And when we were on the trip, it was one of those times that I say is my terminology, a God thing. I loved our host and our guide, the guide of Egypt, Mohammed Ibram, just a a great guy. He was asking questions and was saying biblically this, biblically that, we'd start off. And I had made up my mind, I was not going on that trip to teach.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I was going on a trip to learn, you know. And so I wasn't going to say anything. And then he asked a question about the Bible. This is like the first day. So I answered it and I thought, well, here I go. I've alienated everybody on the group. I said, everybody thinks I'm a crazy man. And next thing I know, Derek walks up and he goes,
Starting point is 00:02:37 No, that's exactly what I believe. That was right on. And, of course, from that time on, I spent a lot of time answering questions. And Derek and I became very good friends. And I was a privilege to count him as a friend. But we are aligned on so much of this stuff. But it's just a great time. I've been speaking at some different Bigfoot conferences where I started out.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Fun story on that. my brother was going to be a speaker at a local Bigfoot conference. And I went to support him. And the guy that was running the conference, he runs conferences all over the southeast. And he came up to me and was talking to me. And I started talking about this stuff. Start talking about the biblical worldview of this and how that fit in with cryptids and UFOs and all of this.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And right in the middle of the conversation, he just says, stop. And I thought, uh-oh, made him mad. That's it. And he goes, can you do a presentation in the next few minutes? And I was like, well, yeah, I guess. So that was my first presentation. He came up very kind and asked me questions. And since then, I've spoken at several of his conferences.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And I kept getting requests for putting the information into a book because it was resonating with people. Even folks from Mufon were coming up. And I had a director from the Southeast come up and tell me that what I had, presented was in his words the closest to the truth of anything he's ever heard. So I was very complimented by that. And most of the time I'm not received as well for my beliefs. But it's been a good time. And that's why I published a book so that I could get out the truth.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I see a lot of the things that's happening as part of a great deception that's coming. And having this book available to say, look, This can help you through that. From a Christian perspective, this can help you understand what's going on. And that's why the book came about is more of a ministry. The article was an absolute blasterite. And the reason it divided so well into two parts is the first part of it, before I talked about who did it, you really had to put some basis into,
Starting point is 00:04:59 why do we even need to look at who did it? What are the stones? know, how is it moved? What did they do? And of course, on our page, we have a lot of folk that talk about geopoly and things like that. So I felt I needed to address that first. So that was the first shot. Yeah, go ahead. Let me jump in real quick because I, again, you're full of surprises. Here, I'm on this tour with you, not realizing you're this big writer, this now author. I see. So, and then was cool. I just want to ask you one more thing about your book before we get into the articles about Jill Palmer and Genesis 6 World View of the Bible. So your bio and your book says
Starting point is 00:05:44 you're a retired data architect for a Fortune 50 company. You hold a master's degree in theology. You currently teach occasionally it sounds like at a local seminary. And then your book, just so we're clear for people who may not know you, it's called UFOs, Cryptids, and the Bible. Quite a title. So two things. One is, I think I saw you mention that this thing was in the category it's in was selling pretty good. Any updates on that? And then where can people find it before we get into your articles you wrote for Megalithic Marvels?
Starting point is 00:06:18 We can find a book on Amazon. You'd look up my name. And I think if you look up Lynn Myers and in UFO, that book pops up. But if you have to put the entire name, it's Lynn Myers, UFOs, cryptids, and the Bible. You can get it right now. If you've got a Kindle unlimited, you get it for free. I think it's, I forget what the price is, but it's relatively cheap. I bought it, actually, I bought it on Kindle.
Starting point is 00:06:45 The paperbacks are supposed to be at my house. Publisher's been real bad to drag their feet on this one, but I'm supposed to have paperbacks on it soon. And once I get the physical paperbacks, they should be available on Amazon as well within, I'd say the next month, the paperbacks will be available. You bought your own book on Kindle? Yeah, why not? Somebody had two. But as far as sales and where I'm at, I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I actually sent an email to my publisher yesterday and says, I don't know any of this stuff. How do I find this stuff out? And they were like, oh, yeah, we were supposed to tell you, but we never have. And I said, okay, good. So, this is one day I'll find out. Yeah, I want to definitely ask you more about your Bible because I think, or your Bible, your book, because I think it'll dovetail with the second article you wrote. So, okay, let's set this up for listeners.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So you and I both have this fascination of the ancient past. We go to Egypt. We basically have this megalithic marvels buffet in Egypt. And we see all these incredible sites. And again, what's cool about our megalithic marvels tours is our guide Mohammed takes us. to the parts of the site that reveals what we would call evidence for lost ancient technology, whether it's laser-like cuts or drill holes that are ancient but are precision. And so then, you know, you and I keep running together in our Facebook group, which we're sharing
Starting point is 00:08:18 all these photos and articles. And so one thing we keep seeing is this geopulimer movement, right? It's like growing. And I want to say it right off the bat, I'm not 100% opposed to Geo Palmer. I think there's room for that, maybe in the ancient past and how they built some of this stuff. But a lot of these people come off very passionate, which is there's nothing wrong with passion. But then it's almost full of rage if you begin to write anything other than. this is geopalmer like this crowd gets mad at you and they write you vicious messages and it's like
Starting point is 00:09:05 whoa where's this coming from like like i got no problem with geopalmer let's look at the evidence let's talk about it but i don't know that that's kind of what sets you off is then it's like they're in your face if you're not a hundred percent saying everything's geopalmer so i started to see how you would um converse with some of these in the group And then when I asked you to write the article, lo and behold, what's it about? It's Geo Palmer versus ancient machine like tech. So give us a little background of why you wanted to write this article and then tell everybody who may not be aware, what is this Geo Palmer movement? And then we'll get into the article.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Okay. What made me want to write that first part of it is we had to differentiate between types of architecture. which is extremely important. For instance, you can take mud and straw and make a brick. You can put a pitch coating on the outside of it and make it waterproof. There are building techniques out there that were used and built large buildings with it. The Romans came along, according to history, archaeology, and came up with cement. with the geopolymer, this is a pre-sement version of cement.
Starting point is 00:10:29 The geopolymer folks say that there were these techniques used to where you crushed up sandstone and limestone, and you made these large blocks. And that's the geololum. They say, you know, it looks just like a block that you'd cut out of a sandstone quarry. Well, there's some questions about, does it look just like it?
Starting point is 00:10:51 it obviously they go into you can use an electron microscope and see this and this well yeah it's made of that crushed up material so it'll have the same composition if you will so it's not a surprise but the question and the reason I wrote the art this part of the article was I wanted to differentiate between choosing this way or that way and understanding that both of them are extremely valid you've got a 70-ton granite block. Can't do geopolymer with granite.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Now, you can use the part of it to where they call stone softening. And we talked about that some in the article that there are some current research even that says that some plants in South America can be used to soften certain types of stone. Whether it is granite or not, I don't know. But let's just say you can.
Starting point is 00:11:48 In Easter Island, they said there was a sonic method used. Their legends say a sonic method was used to move the statues. We're seeing things happening with sound and sonic waves that are astounding out there.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Did they have some sort of capability to use sound to move objects? Because as one of the questions that we have, we look at pieces of the pyramids and say, well, maybe they were used to create energy waves of some sort in the past. That was one of the
Starting point is 00:12:21 hypothesis that that came out and there was some good evidence behind it. Did they use energy waves? Well, the type of energy waves, we can't look at and say, well, it must have been used for this and it must have been used for that. No, it was an energy wave. We don't know what they used it for. They could have melted stone. They could have used plants to melt stone.
Starting point is 00:12:41 But did they melt every stone? Did they do? You also have to look at the difference in what can be done. And is it possible to do it? it at the scale. This is why I included the thing about the Japanese program that came in and tried to rebuild on the pyramid. It was impossible at scale for them to do it. They could do it at a small level, but they had to leave the granite out. They had to leave, they had to even doing it with limestone. They couldn't do it at scale. And there's a lot of rings that, well,
Starting point is 00:13:15 they didn't have the manpower, they didn't have the time, didn't have the money, it didn't have blah, blah, blah. And all these pharaohs did. Okay, great. But even if you could do all of that and build something that size, it's still made out of block. And maybe they use chiel polymer. I don't say they didn't for the casing stones on the outside. I do know that it's hard for me to believe that they can create a concrete or a slurry. I've worked with concrete before. and we back in my part of the or my part of the country we call it mud mixing and when you're mixing that mud it's it's the concrete that comes out or the cement that comes out is just crystalline and dirt and there's possible i guess if you left the chunks in there you'd have seashells and stuff like that and as you and i know when we walked around the pyramids there were seashells all in that stuff so yeah that was fascinating to see amazing you the fact that you could see the seashells just clear as a bail you didn't have to make them out or it was just that's what that is it's no doubt and it's not just one or two of them it's it's everywhere so how they kept those seashells intact when they created the cement or the liquid form of it before they put it in a block and made it into a thing I don't know how you would do that to me that's a miracle too it's like uh I won't get into that, but I just say that's a big deal too. But I don't think that you can easily say there was no geopolymer used anywhere. I think, yeah, they probably were.
Starting point is 00:14:57 But to say it's all geopolymer, I think, is doing a disservice to the science that we have on it now because there's a difference between taking a one-ton block and lifting it and a 70-ton block and setting that thing in in a precise astronomical alignment with drill holes in it. Like you said, we pointed those things out to where you could see the striations of the drill as it had cut down in there. You could see that. How do you do that? You certainly don't do it with a piece of copper.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Again, not to say that the ancients didn't maybe use some kind of ancient cement in forming or shaping some of these massive blocks. But that doesn't answer the question of why do we see these saw or laser-like cuts? in these incredibly hard stone granite. Right. Or the core drill holes are even almost maybe more fascinating because like you said, you can see the striations inside. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You can see the millimeter of how this drill was spinning or whatever this was. So again, that I don't see, I haven't read yet where the geopalmer theorist answer, what's that doing? You know, how was that crafted? And then you referenced in your article, even who was it? Let's see, it was Graham Hancock.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah, he mentioned, you referenced him about, he said it's noteworthy that within the blocks used to build the pyramid, the great pyramid. We can see these fossil shells. And so it's difficult to understand how the fossils could have survived the grinding up process used to create the slurry used in the creation of the G.L. Palmer Stone. So right there is two kind of seems like problems for that. Is there any other problems you see in your mind with the Geo Palmer method as far as for those who say this is the only way all of this was done? Oh, yes. First of all, there is the fact that we know where the granite blocks came from. They came from the Aswan Quarry.
Starting point is 00:17:14 We know the makeup of those blocks. We can look at them at an infinite level, and we know that from the geology, they came from Aswan. They were cut at Aswan. They were transported from Aswan. We've got the unfinished versions of it, where they stopped it and stopped work on them there. We know they came from there. They weren't, why would I build a 70-ton block in a mold at a quarry hundreds of miles away from where I was going to use it?
Starting point is 00:17:52 Well, you wouldn't. Why would I, so if I built it on site, how do you go about doing that and keeping, why would you do that and keep the look the same? There's no way that you could build that out of granite on. side. And if you were building it on side, why would you then have to cut it afterwards? Why would you not build it the way
Starting point is 00:18:18 you want it to look to the dimensions that you want to fit into the space? But that's not what we see. We found those pieces of granite that we know came from Asquant. There's no doubt on that. Scientifically, we know that's where they came from. And then we see those
Starting point is 00:18:34 slices in it. We remember the one that we saw that I thought was amazing that had been thrown away. corner road had been chipped off and there was a cut and you could see where the cut got offline. It just started drifting to one side and it's like they were looking at the yeah, we can't use that one. They dumped it over there. But something cut through that and they just discarded it. If they were doing all of that stuff with it, why would you just not reuse it for something else?
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yeah, no great point about Aswan Corey. For those who may not know, all of the pink granite that you, you see in the great pyramids or any of the megalithic temples like the valley temple this is all coming from one place there's only one place in egypt where this pink granite comes from and like lynn said it's as one and i mapped it if my memory serves me right it's 11 hours by car from giza all the way south down past luxor to aswan this is craziness that that's where the stone is coming from. Okay. Think of just today and in modern times. I'm thinking of like the unfinished obelisk that still sits in the Aswan quarry. I think it's 1,200 tons or something.
Starting point is 00:19:51 In the year 2022, if we wanted to move that to Giza from where it is in Aswan, 11 hours by car, think of what you would need to move this 1,200 ton piece of granite, right? The earth movers. our greatest machines, it would be, I don't know if it would be possible. It might be, okay, but now go back to thousands and thousands of years ago. And then when you see the unfinished obelisks in this quarry,
Starting point is 00:20:26 again, back to kind of the advanced tech side of things, wasn't it crazy to see those one meter wide scoop marks? Yeah. Totally surrounding these unfinished obelisks. And then you look up to the wall from where the scoop marks come, and there's a dark reddish line, which according to Muhammad, our guide, he believes this indicates excessive heat, almost due to an excessive, an ultrasonic cutting tool that was almost scooping it out like ice cream. And that is, it is. And one of the things that I worked in retail for a long time, a lot of my years were in retail. and I worked in all the aspects of it through the transportation and everything.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And what people are not putting into their thought processes is the whole soup to nuts on this. Not only do I have to cut it, but I got to lift it and put it on something with wheels or rollers or whatever. I have to move that miles from where that is using some sort of force. I have to physically roll that down. I've got to take it across different terrain. In the mountains, it's up and down stuff. I've got to roll it up and down. Then I've got to get down to the shore,
Starting point is 00:21:49 and I've got soft sandy soil to roll. Well, you could put down logs, okay? Great. You've got to move, again, 70 ton at the average inside of the pyramid. 70 ton granites. You've got to move. them across that sandy area and lift it again and load it on a boat, steady enough to where it doesn't tip the boat or sink either side of the boat.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Well, yeah, you build two or three boats. Okay, great. But how do you get it from the ground to the boat? And then you reverse the process when you get it downstream. There is more than just cutting it and stacking it. there is the as you pointed out by car it's that long maybe a little faster by ship but still the the the the transportation the logistics behind that is just incredible so then you get it there the stones have to be cut we saw we saw inside the pyramid if you remember and i'm sure you do
Starting point is 00:23:02 because it was amazing. The cuts would be this wide going straight up and down. And then over here you'd be you'd have a twin set and you'd look at it and you can obviously see they had slid a block perfectly cut right down into that to block that area off. And it was made for blocks to slide in and set down on. You're doing that not once or twice,
Starting point is 00:23:31 but thousands of times with blocks that we can't move technologically today. We're not just stacking them in there and putting them in like bricks because there's another thing people think about. They aren't just making a tall triangle. It's not just stacked in there.
Starting point is 00:23:52 It is aligned perfectly with laylines, with celestial objects and events. It is aligned perfectly, not only just with one, but with multiple. And at certain times of the year, it's got to hit just right and do that. These blocks had to be placed perfectly. The science behind that, the logistics to accomplish that science, I find it difficult to believe that we can pull off that today.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And again, going back to the article, what the Japanese did, and I think it was 79, they basically used sandstone and built a triangle temple. They just stacked it all in together and built a triangle that looked like the, well, it was a third to size, but it looked like the pyramids. And they were going to use manual labor just to show, oh, yeah, this can all be done by men. They had 100 guys to move a one-ton block. That's really important.
Starting point is 00:25:01 100 guys to move a one-ton block. Couldn't do it. Ended up using helicopters and it was one time an airplane. And it just proved that the one-time, okay, now you're changing from one-ton limestone from a quarry that we know is closer. Or even if you're using geopolymer, building it on site. But you're building millions of those things. at
Starting point is 00:25:30 a ton of one ton and two ton of piece you're placing them over a granite structure that you built all of a sudden all of this stuff just starts wait a second
Starting point is 00:25:44 I don't know that we can pull that off today the science behind that someone had that knowledge to build it and I don't think it was the ancient Egyptians I think this was pre-history, I think the ancient Egyptians very well may have built the limestone to sit on the
Starting point is 00:26:03 outside of it and cut the hole. They may have done a lot of that stuff. But one of the thing that Mohammed kept showing us, and I really appreciated, he would take us to a place and he'd say, is this dynastic? We know this is dynastic. Is this the same thing? And it's like those kids game, you know, is this the same as this? And we'd look at sculptures, for instance.
Starting point is 00:26:26 that was of a king. So this isn't like a bunch of Boy Scouts getting together and chipping something out. This was like the best artisans that they had. And they would have a statue chipped out there. And it would be something that is, that I would look at in Marvel. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And in Robisideops, you'd have something that was 10 times bigger than that, made out of granite. And it was like, I've had the fortune of looking at some of DaVinci's work in Italy. David, you can see the blood veins in his arm. And here in the temples that we looked at there, in the pharaoh, you could see the musculature of his arm.
Starting point is 00:27:10 It wasn't down to the level of da Vinci, but in scale it was so much bigger than Da Vinci. But it was at the artistic level of something like that. So I'm looking at this one that I know was built in the Egyptians. And, well, what happened here? If I'm the king, I'm going to say, yeah, it'd be only something to do the best you can over here, you know, send the eighth graders out and do that one, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:35 That did not happen, did not happen. So there's something there. Yeah, I'm so glad you brought up the Japanese team in 78 who attempts to reconstruct, you know, the great pyramid of Giza. And I think they were called the Nipon or Nippon Corporation. for those who may not know. And again, we'll link Lynn's article in the show notes of this video or podcast so that you can read it and see these pictures. But they think they're going to prove to the world that, you know, here's how the great pyramids were built, right?
Starting point is 00:28:09 And I love how you in the article share how they attempted to use all the basic tools that they thought were used, you know, ramps, labor force to create sophisticated fittings of limestone blocks. but in the end it proved too difficult with the primitive methods, and they had to resort to modern, what we call modern means today, to create their small model, which was just 60 feet in height. So their pyramids just 60 feet in height, and they had to resort to, like you said, helicopters and everything to move and build and lift this stuff. And moving the rock from the quarry was planned to be done
Starting point is 00:28:52 by 100 locally hired laborers, but in the end, they had to use trucks in steamboats. Ramps were used first to haul up the two and three ton blocks, but finally planes and helicopters were used later to move the blocks. And so, again, when you consider that the Great Pyramid has approximately 2 million blocks of the sizes used in the Japanese experiment, it's just crazy to think how the ancients did this. And one of the things about that, too, I found interesting. I hear all the time about ramps, ramps, ramps. I've always heard that.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Well, they just built ground up on the outside and you had ramps that wrapped around the building, the pyramid. They got it built, and then they tore all that sand down and moved it all away. Walla, they've got the bill of that. But then Graham Hancock put out, and I thought that was interesting. I mean, this guy's a giant, for the I'm concerned. He knows his stuff. How long did he say that that. ramp would have to be longer than the geesea pyramid itself for that the physics behind it again down to what you can and cannot do
Starting point is 00:29:59 the physics behind it that you cannot move a 70 ton granite block that length to that height unless the the ramp was longer than the geesea plateau that's that shook me it was like even if it goes around in a circle, the length of it around that building. And even he even talked about the incline, mathematically, the incline can't be, but so much. It can't be this. It's got to be this. Or you physically can't do it. The physics are just, you just can't do it.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And I found that very, very interesting. Do I believe that they use ramps? Absolutely. I know that they shown one of the places, and it's one of the things that I disagreed with. They showed a temple entryway to a temple, and it was monstrous. It cut out of a piece of granite, and it was monstrous,
Starting point is 00:31:06 and it was laying on its side. And they said, you know, no army can tear that down. I'm like, no, no, yes, we can. Anybody can tear down something. You put enough horses on it, you put enough sappers underneath. I mean, the sappers is a medieval term, that they would be the one that would go under in the siege
Starting point is 00:31:26 and dig underneath the foundations of a wall so that the wall would collapse. And they've been doing that Middle Ages and beyond. The Bible talks about sieges that went on all the time. So you put enough sappers and enough people pulling against it, you can knock it over. But the question, so the question is not about that. The question is about how did they put it up originally?
Starting point is 00:31:49 tearing down is one thing, but building to the precision and the alignments that that thing had to be in. That's the question. That's what I love to look at and see where that is. I like your. Yeah, I loved your point about in your article, you know, you basically say whether or not the ancient Egyptians were able to create limestone blocks using some sort of geopulmer technology. we still have to deal with the fact that they had to lift these massive blocks of pure granite weighing 70 tons to heights of hundreds of feet above ground and position them perfectly in place. And I love what you said a little bit a few minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:32:37 The Great Pyramid is not just a bunch of blocks stacked on top of each other in a triangle. When you go inside this thing, it's a megalithic masterpiece of mathematical, brilliance. It's like a technological structure device. You can feel how it doesn't even feel like it was meant for humans to be walking through. It's when you walk for this human to walk through it. I tell you that. Right. I tell people, okay, I had a light backpack on. When you're going down these 300 foot passageways, steep passageways up and down, it's back. You're bent over, doubled over. And this is, while holding on to modern day rails they've put in there in wooden plank stairs, how would the ancients have just cruised through there on their way to a funeral procession carrying heavy relics, statues, coffins?
Starting point is 00:33:39 They would slide right down at like a slide on the megalithic smooth slabs, right? and people say, well, that's how they got it down there. They just made a slide and went to a, okay, no, Sakara, perfect example of that. You remember we found the, we found, it's obvious to see it, the coffin, the monstrous coffin that was right in the middle of the hallway and it was just stopped there. And it's like, well, I can get it, you can push it down and get it down to the hole
Starting point is 00:34:13 it's supposed to go in. But how do you make the car? turn anybody's tried to move the couch into a room that's the door that's too small understands what i'm talking about and this is what you're looking at here you look at that and you can't make a turn you just can't make the turn so how and we know that they did it because the other ones are in there and then you've got this one that's just halfway down the corridor and they stopped okay why something something happened. I just got back,
Starting point is 00:34:51 and this is kind of off subject, if you don't mind, but I just got back from, I went on a mission trip with the Navajo, and while I was in New Mexico, the Four Corners region, I took a few days and went for myself and went on a little vacation.
Starting point is 00:35:09 It was interesting to talk to the Rangers. I was able to go down and look at some of these. And you could go to Mesa Verde you could see the Pueblo structures there and they talked about the
Starting point is 00:35:25 Kivas and which is a little camp meeting places that sits like a little above ground or below ground really below ground and then you'd go down into where the more modern one were and you can understand from the size of them
Starting point is 00:35:41 how it was and I finally talked to the ranger that was down at the and I could tell he and I thought a lot of lack. I could just tell when I started talking to him because I kind of was took her back. I said, look, when you go out there, you got these little small places that I could, I can stand up in, but just barely. And you come over here, and man, that'd be a comfortable place to live. That's great. You could have a picnic in there.
Starting point is 00:36:04 That's great. And I said, while I understand that on a model, they're the same. They're not the same. There's two different purposes for this. There's a different purpose for this and a different purpose for this. And he looked around and he went just like that. And I thought, okay, and then he smiled real big and that's all he wanted to talk about it. But this is kind of what we're looking at here, guys.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You can look at something and say it could have been done because we see something else. It was done like that. But was it done at the scale? and the precision with the logistics and all of those things. And I think that is where the questions really come from. That's where it comes. And we have to take all of that into consideration.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And that's why that puts the marvel in megalithic marvels to me. How does that happen? Yeah. Can't wait to go to Peru, by the way. Right. Yeah. No, that's in the works. A Peru trip next year, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:37:14 you mentioned statues of Egypt. This is something I get excited talking about, and I think you'll appreciate it because you, I think it sounds like you had the same revelation, but to me this was the biggest surprise I had in Egypt. Like I knew obviously the pyramids were megalithic, and like you, I believe they were not built by the dynastic Egyptians of 3,000 BC.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Right. The dynastic Egyptians were brilliant in their own right. Great architects for their own. time. But like you talk about in the article, when we look at the Moes scale of hardness, the dynastic Egyptians used copper and iron tools at best, which rank, I believe, a three or four on the Moes scale of hardness, copper chisels and hammers and iron hammers. You can't, you can't shape to precision a granite block with blunt force, right? And so that's, that's one of the biggest because the granite I think rings this an eight or nine on the most scale part.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Eight or nine, yeah. And it's when you look close. I'm sorry, Derek. What you're going to get. And the reason I want to put this out there is because I've heard the feedback. And I went and looked at it. So let me give you an answer to the feedback you're going to get for that. Well, there's a video out there that shows scientists taking a copper saw and sand and cutting a granite block.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I wouldn't watch the video yeah but what you'll see is a tremendous amount of frustration it took them days to get a little ways down into that rock this is what we're talking about and you can look at it and the cuts are not the same not close to the same we're talking about cuts you can't put a card in that you can't slip a hair in between today after thousands of years so to say okay, we could cut it. I'm okay. So we could cut it, but we can't cut it to that precision. We can't cut it in that quantity. We can't cut it with that kind of quality. We can't cut it the way it was cut.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And I have to put that out there. I'm sorry. No, no, I'm glad you said that. Yeah, I mean, with enough people in time, you could eventually make an indention or some kind of cut in granite, but it's not going to be precision.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And here's where I'm going with us. We see the pyramids. We see these megalithic temples like the Valley Temple, which clearly had a different purpose and function in the Great Pyramid. I knew all those were megalithic and most likely predated the dynastic Egyptians of 3000 BC. What I had no idea about was these what I would call megalithic statues that Muhammad pointed out. And I think it was the Ramazium site in Luxor. This site's dedicated to Ramsey's the second,
Starting point is 00:40:21 who was, you know, a dynastic Egyptian, 2,500 BC or somewhere around there. And, you know, you look at the site and it's amazing. Most of it is dynastic Egyptian architecture. Again, 3,000 BC. You see big columns built in sections. You see Ramsey statues built in sections. They're all cool, but it's the best they could do is build them in sections and stack them.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yes. You see the hieroglyphs that they were using. And again, it's beautiful, but it's kind of crude looking to what you see in granite around the corner. And that is, I'm thinking of the two statues. There's the remnants of the 1,000-ton piece of statue that was badly damaged. But this thing, if it was complete, was over 2,000 tons. this you could see the muscle tone in it all crafted from one piece of granite and you could still see the precision what I was talking about the looking at McElangelo work it's there but the scale that you're
Starting point is 00:41:33 talking about we've never seen anything like that to that scale so can someone do that should we be surprised that it was doable? Well, no, at a small scale, we could do that. I mean, been proven. But what we saw there, what you're talking about is, it's the picture book that we had as a kids. Are these two things alike? And no, they weren't alike.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I'm sorry, I've jumped in again. No, it's good. So, and you guys can go to Megalithic Marvel's. like Instagram or our Facebook group, and you're going to find these pictures, just search for these keywords we're mentioning. But at the base of this 1,000-ton statue, and it's just the torso and like shoulders.
Starting point is 00:42:26 There is, you know, people would say, well, those are just hieroglyphs, but again, it doesn't look like the hieroglyphs of the dynastics over at the temple. These are 3D deep-embedded precision symbols that Muhammad theorizes may have been part of the language of the original Megalithic builders, the original, original ancient Egyptians.
Starting point is 00:42:49 And I think that's he... These things are... He keeps using the turn of reuse. Yeah. And just to not skip around that, here's what we're talking about. Ramsey's came in, and no matter where we went, you'd see a Ramsey stuck somewhere, carved, his name carved somewhere. As these kings would come in, they would say, you know what,
Starting point is 00:43:09 I'm going to make, I'm going to make that a little better. and I'm putting my name on it. That's mine now. They reuse and recreate it and reclaim. And that's what I believe, and I think Derek does too, without speaking for them. I think that's what happened. They came in in these places.
Starting point is 00:43:25 These megalithic marvels already existed, and they just refurbished places. I want to use this as this from now on, and I'm going to put my name on it. But when you get to what you're looking at, those 3D cutouts in the bottom of that, We saw carvings, thousands and thousands, I say millions and not exaggerate, of hieroglyphs. But again, looking at what was on the base of that, those 3D cutouts, those two things are not the same.
Starting point is 00:43:58 They're just not. One, somebody did it. Yeah, we could do that today. It looks good. An awesome craftsman could do that today, and it lasted that amount of time and rock and it would gorgeous. that the quality and the precision of what you're talking about where those things were cut in that 3D look, that blows my mind. That looked like it was, I'll tell you, and you can, it looked like it was done last week.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I mean, it looked like it had just been polished. Right, and again, this is rose granite. And the last thing I'll say, and then we'll move to your other article is the Ramsey's Bust. It was this green, grandurite stone bust of a Ramsey's head that had been broken off a body. Again, one thing doesn't look like the other. This thing is kind of centered in the center of this site, this temple. You go up close, and I'm going to release a video soon of this, and you focus on the face, the eyes, the ear.
Starting point is 00:45:06 you can see what looks like laser lines inside the earhole. The detail is so finite and perfect. Again, a geopalmer method of grinding stuff up. I don't get how that makes that and to where you're going to see laser lines that go into the earhole. It was so precise, precision like you've never seen. And again, this is grandeurite, which is right up there with granite on the most scale of hardness.
Starting point is 00:45:39 That blew my mind. Again, so why do you see that stuff at this one site? And then at the same site you see inferior statues, inferior hieroglyphs, in sandstone, which is softer, right? And it looks like we got two different builders here. So, Lynn, final word on this subject before we moved your other article? I think that that what we've talked about here
Starting point is 00:46:06 is the key. If you'll take time and listen to what we've talked about, what we said. We're not saying that they didn't use geopolar. We're not saying that. They probably did. They probably should have been credited with the creation
Starting point is 00:46:22 of a cement-like thing before the Romans did. I have no problem with that and with saying that. What I'm saying is most of what we see in the what I would call the stuff that's reused the pre-dynastic stuff
Starting point is 00:46:43 and I would go so far back as to say the pre-history stuff that was in there you cannot create with the geopolymer you can't once you create it there's a lot of reasons why and we've talked about it one of the reasons why is why would you, if you could do it in that easy, simple way, then why would you go to all the trouble to do it the way that it was done,
Starting point is 00:47:13 way that it looks like? So I think you have to really think about that and see about it. It is, we are looking at something that is unexplainable in modern technology. We can't do it. did did they use that pyramid to generate gases? Did they use it to generate microwaves? Did they use it to generate sonics? Did they use it to generate all of this other stuff
Starting point is 00:47:45 that we see all across the world people say that, well, that's what this was used for. That's what this did. And one of the things in Peru, the temple with the serpent that goes down the side of it, that if at the uh it's the famous temple i can't think of the name of it but it's in the square and at the soltist corey concha it very well maybe you can see the serpent kind of as a shadow you can see it like crawl down the side of the steps oh you're talking about chichinita yeah yeah there you go you can
Starting point is 00:48:18 stand in that middle spot and there's a granite piece there you can stand there and remember this is about a bird and a serpent and they somehow are able to mix those two and they call they talk about a a serpent. You can stand in that one spot and not six feet out from it
Starting point is 00:48:37 it doesn't work. Stand in that one thought and clap your hands and you can hear it chirp off that temple. I've seen that. And you look
Starting point is 00:48:48 at that and say how did you know to do that? How did you come up with that? The math and the complexity behind that I can't
Starting point is 00:48:58 not take that in your mind and then move it back to where we're talking about an agent. Do you think it's logical that your all-powerful Pharaoh would say, well, yeah, I know you can't cut anything that looks like that. Just do the best you can, boys. No, if you're going to make a statue of me, it better look just like that one right there if that's possible.
Starting point is 00:49:25 If you're going to put a bust of mine up, don't set this inferior-looking. thing out there and say, well, this is my king, my God, king, Pharaoh, and then have another one sitting right beside of it that it looks like one was made by an eighth grader and one was made by a master, a grandmaster, and put them beside each other. And I mean, that was cool. They're both cool. But as a Pharaoh, am I going to want that? Is that what I'm going to ask?
Starting point is 00:49:53 So why do I have this proliferation of the things that is just, not as good. Do you think the pharaoh said, well, just do the best you can't. Just get out there and do the best you can. That's not what we read historically about who those guys were. And I'll leave it at that. But I think that I just ask when you look at this,
Starting point is 00:50:20 when you look at the whole geopolymer stone, or the stones melted, are they moved with sonic? You know, all that stuff is important. And yes, take your time to look at this. that and look at, but why does it have to be your way? Why does it have to be one thing? Why can it not be a lot of things mixed together? And I think on most of this stuff, the technology is such that we cannot do it today. Cannot. And leave it at that. Well said. So again, I'm in a link Lynn's article called Geopolymer v. Ancient Precision Tech, Howard Meglis made in the
Starting point is 00:51:00 show notes where possible for this podcast and video. But if I don't, you can just go to megalithic marvels.com and find this article. It's one of our more recent articles or just search for Geo Palmer and it'll pop up. And you can read his complete article and see the photos. Thanks so much, Lynn, for your time today. We could talk all day. Couldn't we about this stuff. Yes. And I have before. Yeah. Yeah, again, it's been so great to connect with you on our tour through the Facebook group. Shameless plug, if you're on Facebook, go find the Megalithic Marvel's Facebook group,
Starting point is 00:51:35 and you can interact with me and Lynn there all day. We have a lot of fun. And again, go to Amazon to find Lynn's book, UFOs, cryptids, and the Bible. Sounds like it's been one of the hot sellers in that category lately. And Lynn, is there any other way people can get a hold of you, follow you?
Starting point is 00:51:55 Pretty much through the Facebook group. would be the best way. Perfect. Yep. That would be the best way. And Lynn, we want to see you post some of these photos from your trip there in the Four Corners area. So I want to see those in the group soon. Give us some up-close photos of these Kivas and stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I will. I'll give you some stories with that too, you know. Please do. And other than that, Lynn, thanks for your time. And we'll do this again, hopefully in the future. Hey, thank you so much. for having me on. I appreciate what you're doing. And congratulations on your 100,000 viewer award from YouTube. That was awesome and well deserved. Thank you, my friend. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yeah, that was cool to get a little momentum like that, you know, from all the hard work and put it on the wall somewhere. Yeah, right behind you. It'd be a great place there. All right. Thanks, Lynn. Thank you.

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