Megalithic Marvels - Mysterious Structures Discovered in Quebec Spark Debate / Steve Durand

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Several enigmatic large stone structures concealed deep within the forests of Quebec are igniting debate concerning the existence of a lost civilization that may have once ruled in present day Canada. In this exclusive Megalithic Marvels interview I am joined by Steve Durand, founder of LeTerrain, a 400-acre wilderness sanctuary in Quebec. Has Steve stumbled upon the fingerprints of a lost civilization?FOLLOW STEVE HERE JOIN ME ON A 2026 TOUR

Mysterious stone structures hidden deep in the forests of southern Quebec, sparked debate over Canada's ancient past. In this episode, I'm joined by Steve Durand, founder of a 400-acre wilderness sanctuary in Quebec in the deep forests where Steve believes he stumbled upon part of Canada's ancient past that has long been hidden on his property. Steve's going to break it all down for us in just a moment. But first, a quick reminder to like this video. Please subscribe to my channel from wherever you are watching or listening.

And if you happen to be watching or listening on Spotify or Apple, please give me a five-star review that really helps me to break through the algorithms and grow up the charts. So, Steve, thank you so much for joining me to discuss these ancient anomalies of Quebec. It's a pleasure, Derek. I've been following your channel for a long time, and I really like what you're doing. And so, yeah, it's an honor to be here. I'm excited for this convo.

I am really excited to get into this because I really haven't seen hardly anybody talking about this, except you, of course. And I think we first connected on Instagram somehow, and I stumbled upon some of your videos. I don't know if you tagged me or what, but I got to see some of your footage. and I was like, whoa. So is that how we connected? I think so, yeah. I made a reel that I thought really just had a great edit and showed some of the amazing things I found really quickly,

had a great tune behind it, and got a lot of views. It had some vibe to it. So I sent it over to you, and I think I tagged you in it, and you were kind enough to accept the collaboration. And I got a lot more views that way. But yeah, I think that's how I thought.

about your interest a bit. Yeah, well, thank you for doing that. It's amazing how you can connect with people on a social media platform like Instagram. And I love that collaboration tool they rolled out to where you can post something, tag me, and it shows to all my followers. So, yeah, I started to see your footage,

and I was like, okay, this to my eye looks, this looks beyond just natural formations. We're talking way in the wilderness of Quebec. So, like, basically it's a series of unusual stone formations hidden deep in Quebec in this property you own. So give us kind of the backstory of how you came to own this property and then stumble upon these anomalies. Well, yeah, it's pretty interesting how it all played out. I was living in upstate New York at the time. And, you know, I don't come from an archaeological or even a Bush.

craft background at all. I'm a musician producer or I was in my past life and I was recommended to go see this piece of land that was for sale. I had no interest in living off grade or anything, but I went up there for a weekend and I just hiked through this like I like the idea of a 500-acre private wilderness. It was all natural bedrock open to the sky and I guess I kind of had an epiphany right there and I said my God I'm I'm gonna I need to live here I need to protect this I need to sell my house and buy this land and I was living there off grid a month later and then it it wasn't until like three years later so that I I discovered that um you know this one peak I was on one of seven peaks on this huge property was the one that was surrounded by um this entire

culturally landscaped terra formed in stone site with all these cairns that were connected by these stone roads that have mostly disappeared swallowed up into the earth over what would have to be thousands of years of the passage of time and and so it took me three years to realize what these things were some mysterious stone phenomenon on. But when I did, I just became very obsessed with learning as much as I could about that site on my property, but then I found more all off of my property, all through the surrounding hills of this area in the wilderness. I kept finding more and more, and it just became a really big thing. So you own this 400-acre reserve. Is it pronounced a lot? Terrain? Lue terrain, yeah, low terrain, L.E. Terrain. Okay, and so I bet it's beautiful enough and huge enough where you're just, I mean, literally

living off grid and you still live off grid today, right? Yeah, yeah. Come a long way from those early days. Yeah, that's a long way from the New York City life probably, huh? Yeah, absolutely. No, I wasn't living in the big city. I was living in upstate New York in a town called Hudson, but yeah, still very urban and very social and very on the grid.

And so, yeah, I kind of hit the ground running and trial fire and figured some things out. And it was a hell of a challenge those first few years. But it's turned into quite a dream. I'm quite comfortable there. I obviously have Internet. and battery systems and all the comforts of regular life almost. Years ago, a lot of people don't know.

I actually lived in Alaska. Oh, no way. Yeah, I lived in Fairbanks, which the Alaskans refer to as real Alaska. I'm talking 40 below winters, right? I only lasted a couple of winters. but my first the first place I lived was on the outskirts of town

in a semi-dry cabin meaning we had water but it was poured and it was a tank that had to be filled monthly okay yeah not plumbed I moved get this I moved from Sacramento in the middle of winter

which it was like 70 degrees to 40 below in Fairbanks living in a semi-dry cabin and it's crazy how you learned to ration water really fast when you're taking like one minute showers, if you know what I mean. Oh, hell yeah, I know what you mean because, I mean, well, water and power, because it requires power to bring water up from the well, you know, if you have a well. So everything, I was, you know, I learned how much a toaster uses in terms of electricity. If we all got rid of our toasters, we probably would not have an energy crisis. It's pretty wild what we take for granted.

And it's really neat to live off-grid and associate, you know, what requires what to power stuff. It's great. So you purchase this incredible 400-acre estate, which is just amazing enough. Tell me a little bit more about the moment you realize. Okay, so. You might have stumbled upon this incredible discovery of ancient ruins in Quebec. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's interesting because I had actually walked by a couple of them when I first got to the property.

And I asked the owners what they were. And they just said, oh, those are farmers piles. They cleared the fields. And, you know, at that point, I'm like, who am I? Okay, sure they are. They don't look like piles. They look like sculptures, but, you know, who am I? I don't know anything about early farming or the bush.

So I just accepted that. But I kept walking by them and different ones. And I just kept scratching my head. Like, why did they build them up into sculptures and where are these fields? And why are they, you know, I kept on having more and more wise, but, you know, I had other things to take care of and I didn't really dive into it. And then there was this guy helping me with my. my with the log house I was renovating.

It was the original settlers log house. And he was a stone mason. He was a hunter, a warden, a real bushman and, and indigenous origins as well. And we were walking by him one day and he said, what's that?

And I said, oh, those are farmers. It's a farmer's pile. And he said, no, it's not. And I had this moment where I just went,

oh my God. Yeah. Of course they're not. And in the past year, I had at the same time, started to get really into Graham Hancock and the idea of ancient civilizations. And we don't know everything about our past, really. And I became really interested in that. So all at once, I'm staring at this, the one huge structure on my land. And I'm going, my God, like, is this why I'm here?

there's ancient mysterious structures on the land and that's that just started you know that was seven years ago and i've been really really on this obsessed kind of adventure uh finding out more and finding more of them um all throughout that is so interesting that a stone mason you know who's got the experience of working with stones and building walls how it was like, you know, he saw something that even you didn't see at the time and it was like there's no way this is just some old farmer's rock heap that they put together. There's something else going on. Exactly, man. Exactly. He knew in one look and there's other people that that see these things in the first time. They're just, they're floored by the, by just the,

I don't know, the size, the structure. But yeah, you're, So right, this was a stone mason that immediately knew that these were not haphazard. These were very intentioned. And this particular one is like seven feet tall and it's a perfect circle from above. It's a cylinder. He knew that it would take a tremendous amount of sculpting to put this together in a way that would last. you know it's also built on a steep hillside which almost all of them are um and so yeah he just knew and i said oh man there's more and we just went on um on this hour and a half walk and i showed him

all the ones that i'd found and uh you know at each one he and i were getting more and more excited like realizing that this is it's not just randomly one it's like a whole you know it's a whole terraformed mountain basically. And since then, I've found much more. I've found that, you know, there's not only all of these cairns everywhere, but they're connected by these terraces and retaining walls and spiraling stone roads on three tiers that go all the way up the mountain connecting all of these greater cairns. It's a work of,

incredible engineering organized and planned engineering that would have taken hundreds of people, perhaps generations, to make this one site. And I've found 24 of these sites so far. Wow. 24. And it sounds like there's at least four different things going on. We've got mounds, structures, infrastructure, and roads. So kind of break down, again, how many of each? And it sounds like they're all in the same general area, at least on your property on these hills. Yeah, they all, none of them are at the top.

They're all sort of about the same elevation at about 265 meters, almost 300 feet above sea level. And they're not on the top of the mountain. They're just below. They're about two thirds of the way up, sort of in a ring around them. In fact, that's how I found that they circumvented the entire mountain is there were three all at the same level. And I just kept following the art that they created. And I found another and another and another and another.

And it wasn't until a few years later, you know, I'd go visit them every day and just try to meditate or try to inspect, like, try to find similarities, these, try to just absorb as much information as I could. And in one of these trips, I started noticing that there were these shadows of a pathway. And like if you start sort of brushing back this forest soil, it's sort of like natural sod, you realize that there's these pathways and retaining walls that are made of stone. And they go all the way around the mountain. So this is about half a mile at the top, more like a mile at the base. But there's three of these roads.

I also call it infrastructure, whereas the mounds and structures are seemingly the ceremonial or illogical stone features. So yeah, there's the mounds. there's the structures and there's the infrastructure. And the mounds and the structures are symbolic representational ritual. They're beautifully shaped, constructed. The curves are extraordinary. They use these big stones, especially at the base, to make these really perfect oval and circular curves.

And they're built up. of them seven feet tall and then yeah they're they're connected seemingly by this infrastructure of of roads and retaining walls to to support the roads yeah when i look at some of these photographs and your video footage um to me i am seeing obviously not natural formations these are artificially created and but it's almost like they're so ancient and weathered you know we're just seeing you know, a glimpse of what it was in its original state, which would have been possibly monumental when you consider, as you're explaining how these are all at the same elevation around kind of this mountainous area, roads connecting them, and then tell us about this serpentine like wall.

I want to hear more about that also. Yeah, so these are found everywhere. And, you know, I'll jump ahead a bit here to, Like, not only have I found 24 sites in a, you know, 30-mile radius all in the wilderness, but these apparently they go all the way through New England, all the way to Georgia. And there's people that have been studying these for 100 years. There's actually an official group called NERA. We'll put the website there for people, the New England Antiquities Research Association,

that's been studying them for 60 years. So, and I've been in contact with them. And so all of these megacites go all the way down through the states. So this is, this is just, the scale is colossal. It's, it's, it's unbelievable. These, these, uh, serpent walls have been recorded by the hundreds all through New England. And I've found, uh, I don't know, between 10 and 15 of them myself.

And one of them is on my. land and the more you see the more that you can tell that the shapes they made were very intentioned they're like i say the curves are very specific the shapes are very nuanced and intense intentioned they make perfect circles they made octagon angles and so when i see a wavy wall which with a huge stone at one end that looks like a serpent i call it a serpent And I've found many of them up here in the various different megasites. And apparently there's hundreds of them throughout the states, these stone wavy walls or straight short walls that we just call serpent walls. And it's really fascinating because the serpent, as you know, is one of the most ubiquitous symbols in ancient cultures globally.

right? So this is one way that I really attach this culture and whatever they were doing with these ceremonial stoneworks seems to be connected to some sort of an ancient shared global spiritual practice. Yeah, I'm fascinated by these what we call Cairns in the New England area. and I'm actually a part of a couple of different Facebook groups on Facebook. Yeah, me too. Dedicated to some of the ancient sites in New England,

just because other than that, it's kind of hard to find lots of photographs of this, but it's amazing how many there are. And I'm convinced these are older than, you know, the colonial days, as the mainstream would tell us. Oh, God, yes. far older. And in fact, I don't know if you've ever heard of in the New England area there, there's the legend of the Bennington Triangle. I actually did an episode on this. You might look it up.

Yeah, there's this area there in the New England states. And it's known as the Bennington Triangle by some, because it's where several strange disappearances took place, like from 1945 to 1950. every year around the same time someone disappeared never to be seen again. These were boom towns in the 1800s and then they just became ghost towns. But what's interesting about this one area in the Bennington triangle is it's overshadowed by what's called, I think, the green mountains. Well, guess what's discovered on the top around these mountains is these ancient, mysterious cairns. and they look almost identical to what you're posting in Quebec. And if you're watching on screen,

I'm going to show you some of the side-by-side comparisons here of the New England Cairns with what Steve's showing us. But there is something going on here. What do you think of that? Okay, well, this is where everything comes together. And I think that awareness and putting the word out is key here in this tipping moment, tipping point moment for all of these things. This is the thing.

Derek, you're right. These are the same people. There's no way they could not be. The sites are too exactly the same. They are, the individual cairns look very, very similar. They're in very similar clusters. They're at similar elevations. they are at similar they're they're associated with they're always on the side of mountains i mean

there's there's no doubt in my mind that the ones in new england are the same as all of the ones in here i mean it would be more extraordinary to have two separate mysteries happening that happen to look exactly the same and exhibit all of these similar features right it would just be even weirder. It's as as unbelievable as it seems to connect them all together because then you're dealing with an unimaginable scope. That is the fact. These are all built by the same people. And I think there's many ways other than just the similarity in how they look, how they're placed to be able to prove that. And one of them is just the territory that they, uh, that the stones are found in.

And it's a very specific swath of the Atlantic coast. You know, they disperse going inland, but the most dense on the coast of the Atlantic, except for when they come inland around this area, which would have been the coast of the ancient Champlain Sea, which existed 10,000 years ago, but all the ones that I've found are above the coastline of that, which is 220 meters. None of them are below.

And the same thing goes for northern Vermont and northern New York state. They're found there as well on the shores of the ancient Champlain Sea. And so, you know, I've found 25 sites. I've got 10 more people that have reached out that are also on that shore. line with sites I'm going to visit this summer, but I think there's no doubt that these were all created by the same culture, and so the scope is extraordinary. You start adding up the tonnage of these megasites, and I've done a few simulations just with the AI, and, you know, these megacites are, uh, are, uh, are, you know, these megacites are,

are between 2,000 and 3,000 tons each site. I found 25. You could stand to reason that there's anywhere from 1,000 to 2,000 of these sites down the coast of New England. You've seen them. There's so many different ones on those Facebook groups. If you add up to all that altogether, you're, you know, conservatively estimating, dealing with over 5 million tons of stones moved, placed, and built to create these sites.

And so now you're talking about a culture that was here for thousands of years and would have been millions and millions of people over this entire territory. So it sounds like you have tried to convince some of the locals that live around you that what these are is not just what the mainstream says. Have you made any of those people believers that this is far more ancient than we know? Yeah. I mean, the same thing that happened to me. You know, it's funny how quickly people have an answer. You know, have you ever seen weird stone stuff in the bush? They say, well, the farmers did it.

The farmers did it. You know, like, it's come up so many times that people have asked this question about curiosities in stone. and the answer is always like just really quick. Like people that don't even know, they're just, it's almost like the egregor. I don't know if you're familiar with that term, but that's like a conscious idea that exists, that's shared by many people and sort of takes on a life of its own. There's an egregor guarding these stones, and it's just the farmers did it. The farmers did it. The farmers did it.

But I've brought some of the farmers to see these things and with or some of the locals that have said that these are farmers things. And with literally five minutes of logical discussion, they're scratching their heads and they're saying, oh, yeah, I guess you're right. It makes no sense. The clearing piles are down there by the fields. And if they were clearing, why would they make clusters? and if they were clearing, why are they building them into sculptures? There's just, you know, in a second,

you can discount that age-old, knee-jerk answer to what these are. So, yeah, I have convinced a lot of the people in my area, and they're really on board now, because when you see them as something ancient and mysterious, it's like it's a treasure hunt to find more. It's super exciting. Well, that's really cool to hear.

It's like the Stone Mason helped open your eyes and now you're opening the eyes of all the locals around you. And I feel the same way when I'm on tour with people like in Peru, for example. And again, the mainstream narrative is, well, the Inca built all this, right? Right. But if you just take literally a couple minutes to point out basic facts like, that's granite. Yeah. And the Inca only had copper chisels and hammers. Yeah.

How could the softer material precision shape that and to say, or that granite? People are like, oh, yeah, that makes no sense. Right. And then you see small stones on top of the big stones, right? Such a clear difference in the engineering and in the usage and in the complexity and advancement. It's night and day. exactly and then yeah when you point that out why is the base ruins this indestructible megalithic mortarless blocks and why is the top half small rough stone and mortar when they could

have clearly made it all out of the indestructible the ink who wouldn't do that and without even talking about how they moved 40 ton blocks of granite up mountains and such you know stuff we'd have a a hard time being able to do these days. So yeah, it is, it is similar to that. And it's funny, you know, how quickly people with a bit of logic can see the logic of these not being farmers. It's funny that that narrative has sustained for so long and had so much power. There must be a lot of power behind that.

There's a lot of people that don't want to accept. I mean, archaeology itself is not jumping into the conversation about these being ancient. But yeah, it's funny because a simple look at it tells you otherwise. So we've got locals that are kind of their eyes are being opened as you're showing them and convincing them. You mentioned archaeologists, and I noticed in this article that the debrief did on you, they had brought an archaeologist into the conversation. I don't know if he came out to the site or if they just sent him pictures, but it sounded like he didn't have a whole lot to say.

What was this archaeologist saying? Yeah, he really didn't. Typical, I mean, he wasn't, at least he wasn't like jumping in saying, they're not this, they're farmers, they're natural, you know. He had a pretty fairly open-minded opinion, but really didn't say much. He didn't know about the sites. And he basically said, you know, it's hard to date stone. And, you know, without some real archaeological investigation, you know, we cannot really know.

Where I kind of disagree, because just based on the amount of stoneworks, the scale, and the scope of them, you don't need to be an archaeologist to realize that, A, they're not the farmers that made them, and B, that this is a hugely significant work by a massive culture. And we just don't have that in our record books as anyone doing that in North America whatsoever. So, you know, the resulting aha is like, wow, there's another ancient culture out there we need to start looking at. So now tell us about this Ministry of Culture and Communications of Quebec, who it sounds like they paid you a little visit after seeing one or a couple of your videos. What did they say to you and what did they chalk all this up to? So they, it was pretty amazing.

They reached out to me within the first year of me putting YouTube videos out there. And, you know, I imagine they only do that if they see something that they're really interested in. They need to check out. And they gave me a phone call and they said, hey, we've seen your videos. We need to come and see your sites. And I was really excited. I was like, great. This is what I'm looking for.

I want these to be studied, to be. protected all of this this is wonderful and so they came to the site and and um their expert i i guess he was an archaeologist um spent you know two hours with me i showed them everything on my land i hadn't found any of the other sites in the area so this was just a you know another anomaly um you know a one-off site as far as i knew or they knew what followed was a bunch of sporadic emails and some Zoom calls. They asked me for more information. I provided it with them. And then, you know, it was almost two years worth of back and forth where I became quite frustrated with no answers, no action. And then they finally wrapped it up with an email saying,

we find nothing here. We find nothing of archaeological significance or interest here. Case closed. good luck. And at the time I was, I was angry. I was like, hey, you're not doing your job. The people need to know about this. What are you talking about? At least like, let's open this up. There's obviously something here.

But then I started to realize that, you know, I'm going to have to somehow convince the world of this myself. And that's kind of what I've been doing. and it feels like things are really happening this year with that article and with talking to you right now. They, you know, what they said essentially was that if they're, you know, these are nothing of archaeological interest. So they were saying that these are not made by the indigenous people that we know of in this area, which was the Algonquin people of the time. And, you know, if they were of indigenous origin,

then the ministry would be in there with archaeologists and like, blah, blah, blah. The fact that they just washed their hands of it and said, this is nothing, means they have no idea what this is, and there's no record of this sort of stonework in our archaeological history. And, you know, before I reached out to the, or before the ministry reached out to me, I had reached out to the Algonquin people first. That's who I thought of first to go to to see if they knew anything about it. And I had three different representatives come informally, and all three of them were as perplexed as me. I mean, one suggested they might be Viking.

another said, you know, I have no idea. These are awesome, but I have no idea. And another gave me a couple of books on the stone features of New England. And that's how I started connecting these to them. And now I'm just, yeah, it's quite obvious that this is the result of one culture from here to there. So you're saying on one hand, we've got the local native populations saying, this wasn't us. And then you've got the Ministry of Culture getting all excited about coming out

and documenting and investigating for a couple years. And then they just abruptly even tell you there's nothing here, which obviously means, and you nailed it. If they thought this was the local natives, they would be fencing this on, protecting this, maybe imminent domain, I don't know, crazy stuff. Yep. And they're just walking away, clearly saying that's not the natives, which to me is the biggest hint that this is obviously pre-Native American,

very ancient, and it doesn't fit the historical narrative, so we're just going to walk away, right? Yeah, that's it. It also reminds me of like my investigations into love, Lake Cave in Nevada. I don't know if you've heard of that. Of course I had, yeah. Yeah, so these strange skulls and large skeletons that were discovered there going back to 1911. Yeah. And there's a handful of people that say they've seen some of these actual

skulls in the Humboldt Museum. They're in middle of nowhere, Nevada. And even the director of the museum has said publicly on record that, yeah, we have to hide. hide these in the back of a storage room because the state doesn't recognize their legitimacy. Right. So at least in Nevada, it's still like the Wild West where they haven't just destroyed these skulls, at least as far as I know, they might have disappeared by now. But up until like 2010, they were still supposedly in a back room where you could see these strange, big skulls.

Yeah, these are very interesting clues into the. the schism between the, you know, the controlled narrative of the state of, of archaeology itself, and the physical proof in our hands or on the ground in front of us, you know, it's, at some point we have to reconcile these two things. Like these are real physical truths. They'll eventually be dealt with, I think. we'll find that that connection. And, you know, when we start talking about there, these people that existed before the indigenous that we know of,

I think there are recognized examples, recognized by formal archaeology and anthropology. And one is the pre-Dorset culture of the North. And so this was a culture that existed before the Inuit, the northern people arrived, that was documented and studied by anthropologists, existed before them and disappeared about 3,000 years ago. And this culture is also recognized by the Inuit in their oral tradition. they spoke of the people that were there when they arrived thousands of years ago. And they spoke of them specifically as being larger people. They were physically larger people and they were supposedly timid people.

A bit of that is in the article where I talk to this Inuit elder who speaks to these people. So, you know, in some cases, the state and archaeology does recognize that there were people before. And it seems like, you know, it's not that crazy to think they were a little physically different. They came from a different place in the world in a different part of antiquity. You know, we have differences in us as humans. You know, we know that there were different types of humans around, the Neanderthals, the Denisovans. we're starting to realize they may have been seafaring. And, you know, there's just so much we don't know

and we just have to be open-minded about. It's also important to note that, you know, there's some other ancient anomalies in and around Canada. There's the Peterborough petroglyphs, which are pretty amazing to look at. Certainly are. Wasn't there even some kind of discovering Ontario, of like a stone slab recently?

This is really weird, yeah. Tell us about that. I mean, I've just read the article and seen the picture, but it's this huge stone slab that was covered by a tree that blew over, uprooted, exposing this very old stone slab. Of course, you can't date stone. But it was written in this ruin language that was, you know, like a 2,000-year-old language, some version of,

the Lord's Prayer. The amount of work it would have taken to carve that into stone is huge. You know, who did it? Why? I think the best archaeologists are coming up with is that some, you know, bored Swedish trappers took on that momentous task and hit it and no one saw it. I mean, I don't think they know what's going on with that, but it is very interesting.

Well, my last question for you, Steve, unless you got anything else, is how are you going to utilize LIDAR to bust this wide open and get some LIDAR footage of these ruins and what the roads might have actually looked like? Well, I just, before we get to that last question, if we could, I have one point that I wanted to add about something that may tie into the,

stone features that are all on the coast. There was a study done in I think it was the late 90s. Dennis Stanford, the archaeologist who was also the curator of the North American archaeology for the Smithsonian. So this was a real study done in Chesapeake Bay. There was a couple documentaries on it where they carbon dated a settlement with bi-faced spear points. They carbon dated it at 23,000 years old in Chesapeake Bay. So there was that presence then. And from these fines, Dennis went on to propose the salutian theory, which proposed that people came across the Atlantic from Europe 22,000 years ago,

hugging the glacier, the ice shelf, and they may have gone back and forth establishing settlements on both sides. And this theory is accepted all over the world as a potential theory and makes sense to me that there was a coastal arrival based on where you find the stones all over the coast and not inland. I just thought that's, you know, I don't know if these are the people that built these things, but I think it's a really important study to be aware of. And a very important theory that's accepted all over the world except in North America. In North America, you can't talk about the salutian theory. They'll call you a racist, even though this is 10,000 years before races.

there's just a real block against this theory. And I think it's maybe an important piece of the puzzle. Very interesting. Yeah, thank you for sharing that piece. And I definitely want to hear about the LiDAR too. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I'm trying to get some LiDAR done. It's really expensive to do it right.

So I've maybe, I'm looking into a few options of trying to get it done this year. But I think that what that will show mostly is it should show the stone roads and pathways that connect the cairns on these various megasites. And I think that's a long way to proving that, you know, these are not random stone piles or even random cairns, but these are in fact terraformed mountains. These are organized feats of engineering that would have required hundreds of people a very long time to do. I think it will be of that if we can get some good LIDAR scans done. But I think the main thing is that people start to realize just the scope of this. And so, you know, I thank you for this platform because if we can start accepting that these are the same as the ones in New England are the same as the ones in 10. Tennessee and Georgia and start realizing how what a massive culture and discovery this is.

I think that's going to put it on a lot of people's radar. So there's a couple of things happening in this wonderful tipping point moment it feels like about just putting the word out and and yeah, getting some more real scientific studies done on this stuff. Well, Steve, this has been a great discussion. Thank you so much for your time. Let people know how they can follow you, your YouTube, your Instagram. Give your shout out to your channels there. Oh, sure, thanks.

Yeah, my land is called Low Terrain. So if you search for that, you'll find all my stuff. Basically, my YouTube channel is Stone Research of West Quebec. And my Instagram is at the land, which is weird because I, I, I chose that three years before I even thought of buying land. And that's my Instagram, the land. So, yeah, that's where you can find me. I'd love to hear from you if you want to discuss this.

Or I do tours at these sites all over this place. So, yeah, please feel free to reach out. Well, that's cool. So if you want to go and see these incredible ancient stone sites yourself, book up with Steve. He will give you a personal tour. and so what's the website? Is it?

Lottterrain.com? It's Lutterrain. Dot land. Okay. And I will link that. I'll link in the show notes for everybody and I'll link Steve's YouTube and Instagram. So we give him a follow on those platforms. Go on a tour and I might even have to come up for a tour, Steve.

I was just going to say, Derek, you will not be disappointed. In fact, he will be alone away. I can guarantee it. I talk a big talk and I can. follow it up. So we've got to get you up here, man. You're going to be, I think this is part of the big conversation about we're all, about our spirituality, our collective history globally. This is big, Derek. And yeah, you're going to have to come and see for yourself. Well, thank you again, Steve. And we'll do this again once you got some light our footage and

we'll break it all down. Sound good? Indeed. I look forward to it. Thanks so much, Derek.