Megalithic Marvels - Nazi Occult Science, Antarctica & CIA Remote Viewing / Chad Riley

Episode Date: April 26, 2025

In this episode I am joined by researcher & film-maker Chad Riley, creator of the documentary "Skinwalkers & Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm." In this episode we discuss a variety of topics covered in Chad's film such as the CIA & remote viewing, the Montauk project, Aleister Crowley, Skinwalker Ranch & the Hitchhiker phenomena. We also talk about the Nazi's obsession with occult sciences, their search for ancient artifacts, and their connection with the mysterious Vril Society where certain maidens could supposedly channel entities. And what about the legends surrounding Nazi secret bases in Antarctica as well as Admiral Richard Byrd and Operation Highjump? Chad reveals how all of these enigmatic topics are related.SHOW NOTESFollow Chad on YouTube Buy Chad's film Join me on our Cambodia or Israel/ Petra tours

Stargate Voyager. Well, I am really excited to be joined again by Chad Riley. He is a researcher, filmmaker, and the creator of the film, documentary film, Skin Walkers, and Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm. And Chad, I had you on about a year or so ago, and it was a great conversation that took us down so many crazy rabbit holes regarding history and the CIA and the occult. on the Nazis and UFOs and Skinwalker Ranch and I felt like we could have talked for hours so I'm great to have you back man how are you doing good brother it's good to be back and uh yeah looking forward to getting into some more of these topics you can go up you can go for hours on some of these topics for sure I remember last time we talked you had said it took you I believe

it was almost a year and a half or two years to create your film skinwalkers and stranger things of the unseen realm and so that released if I remember right was it like a year or so ago? I believe that was November of 2023. Okay so man here we are this far removed I'm sure you've learned so much more since the film was even released and so I'm excited to get into some crazy topics that you touch on in your film and I wanted to start out by asking you this news that came out oh not too long ago about the CIA and remote viewing with the Ark of the Covenant. Kind of share with me your thoughts on that.

And was there anything new you learned from that? Or did it just confirm what you'd kind of covered in your film regarding remote viewing and how the government was getting into this psychic stuff? That's a good question right there. Let's go back to the roots of where remote viewing actually come from. You know, people, they hear that term and they think of the CIA and things like that. but it actually originated in Scientology of all places. It was Elron Hubbard in his book, Dianetics,

and that was something that they teach, because I don't know if you were real knowledgeable on a lot of the teachings of Scientology, but they believe that they will basically live forever, that they'll be reincarnated. Like, they're still waiting for Elron to show back up and to take back over Scientology. I think he's probably about 20 years overdue,

but I digress. And, you know, people like, what is it, Tom Cruise, you know, they talk like they are gods, like Superman, almost X-Men is the way that they kind of describe it. And, you know, the video of him, remember when he was talking about how when he drives by a wreck, he stops because he knows he's the only one who can help. But, you know, he wasn't kidding, but that video went viral and that caused Anonymous to go to war with Scientology. but yeah this is what they believe and this is what they teach is that they have superpowers super abilities and so this technique actually came out of Scientology it was Hal Puthoff and Ingo Swan who were both OT-7s

who came up with the technique of remote viewing and then went to teach it to the United States Army inscom and the defense intelligence agency and NSA and so on CIA I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Third Eye Spies, but they get into some of this and they talk about it. And yeah, that's total Scientology technique. And so you know who Elrod Hubbard was affiliated with Jack Parsons and was part of the Babylon Working Ritual.

We're both understudies of Alistair Crowley and Thalimba and OTO. You brought up Alistair Crowley. Why don't you tell, give us a little backstory on him, some of the crazy stuff he was into and then connect that to Scientology and then maybe we'll circle back around to this CIA remote viewing of the ark

and then we'll go a million different places I'm sure. Well Crowley was actually he was mixed up in a lot of things started out with the Golden Dawn got into a lot of other things but he eventually came up with his own supposed religion called Belima and also

part of the OTO the Ordo Templarionis. And one of the things in my film, there's a lady at the beginning of the film, Arizona Wilder. In fact, I've got the first nine and a half minutes on my True Seekers Research page on YouTube. So if you go to True Seekers Research,

all, you know, two words, you can actually watch the first nine and a half minutes of the film for free, plus I have other clips of it on there as well. But the Arizona Wilder thing, she's talking about how they were doing satanic rituals at U.S. military bases. And she said that the naval intelligence specifically,

now keep in mind, who do we know in the naval intelligence that's completely mixed up in a lot of this stuff? Well, the main one that a lot of people are not familiar with is this guy named Jay Stratton. Now, Jay Stratton actually was part of Skinwalker Ranch. That's where he started out. Started out working at Skinwalker Ranch under Bigelow was part of the Nids and the Bass and all that.

And he was the one in the book. If you've read the hunt for the Skinwalker, the one that they refer to as axle rod, that's Jay Stratton. So he was one of the first people that they documented this whole thing about the hitchhiker phenomenon. And his family, seeing the eight-foot-toll werewolf in their backyard, not just his wife, but the kids as well. And then their friends in the neighborhood were seeing orbs flying around in their bedrooms and houses. And it spread out through the neighborhood and through their coworkers like a virus. So you got all this. But Jay Stratton, like I said, he's not only part of naval intelligence and mixed up in the whole UFO as well as the naval intelligence thing as far as the rituals and so on.

But anyways, he's the boss of David Grush. He's also the boss of Lou Elizondo. And he's also the boss of Travis Taylor, who also works out at Skinwalker Ranch. So this is a key individual who's mixed up in a lot of this stuff. And like I said, not only him being Naval Intelligence, but part of the OTO, because Arizona Water says that most people in the Naval Intelligence are mixed up with the Ordo Timbli Orionis. So this is how the whole thing with Crowley ties in with a lot of stuff that's going on right now that most people are not even familiar with.

But Crowley was doing the, what they called the Amalancho working, where he summoned two different entities. One was named AWAS, the other one was named Lamb. and AWAS dictated the book of the law to him while he was summoning him. And when the book of the law was actually released, World War I broke out right after it came out. And then when he re-released it, World War II broke out. And now Kenneth Grant, who took over the Lima after all this happened in his books, the Taiponian series, and the book, Alecester Crowley and the Hidden God specifically,

he stated that the, book of the law being released was to lay the foundation or the baptism of blood for the coming antichrist so the son of perdition of antichrist that was going to be coming on the scene so it's like you have the world wars that broke out with all the bloodshed as well as communism as well as abortion things like that so this was all in his words this is what he said in that book he said that this was the laying of the foundation the baptism of blood to usher in the end times so So Alist or Carly, this occultist that lived, was it the 40s and 50s? He actually was born in the late 1800s.

And he lived up into the early, was it in 1947? Okay. Yeah. So he was summoning ancient entities that gave him what's called the Book of the Law, which was like an occultist handbook, correct? Yeah. And he never referred to them as like demons or angels. He didn't even refer to them as aliens.

or anything like that. He referred to him as what they called Inocan entities, which is the same thing that John D referred to them as, who was the magician that worked for Queen Elizabeth. So they called these entities Inakian entities referring to the Book of Inok. And so we're talking about Nephilim type Refayim possible spirits. Yes. And AWAS, you know, when you look into the whole thing about AWAS and lamb, that's also very interesting. I mean, we have a sketch that he did of lamb, and when you look at it, I also have the photo in the beginning of the first nine and a half minutes where I show the entity that Crowley summoned Lamb, as well as the entity that Stephen Greer summoned at a CE5 research

thing, and they're side by side, and I mean, they look identical what people think of as a gray alien. And you're talking about Dr. Stephen Greer, the UFOologist? Yes. Okay, so he summoned an entity at an event that was almost the same looking thing as Crowley's way back when. Yes. Identical. And they're, that's crazy. And do, what do they say about, what are these entities like, did they speak anything or do anything crazy when they appeared?

Don't think that, Liam, I mean, I don't remember if he actually said that it talked to him. AWAS did, but AWAS never appeared to him. He never saw AWAS. He just knew that he was there and he could hear him talking to him. As far as I know, the one that appeared to Stephen Greer in the group, it was literally hovering around over the group. And I think there was two or three photos that they captured him floating above the group. So yeah, in your film, what you do such a great job of is you take all these interesting topics and you basically show how they're all connected. Again, going back to ancient entities from Enoch to these occultists from the 40s and their connection to these guys today that are kind of leading the UFO disclosure,

it's very interesting how this small world all connect. So that's why I say we're going to go down so many different rabbit. trails that kind of all connect to Skinwalker Ranch to Robert Bigelow, the Kenneth Arnold sightings and hitchhikers. This news of the remote viewing of the arc, was that stuff you already knew about? Did anything surprise you from that? No, I was already aware of a lot of this. Here's the thing, well, and you read or you look into a lot of stuff that the remote viewers themselves saying, you know, that's the thing is most people know of like Ingo Swan, probably the most well-known. Pat Price is another well-known. You got Hal put-off. You got

goodness, I can't think of the one. The other one that's in third-eye spies that wears the glasses, Targoff or some. And then you also have the military side of it, which is the army, which you have Joseph McConnacle or McMonicle as well as, who was at Melvin C. Riley and so on. And that's the thing. It's like Joseph McMonicle, you know, It's like you got the TV shows Stranger Things. He's actually 001. That was his designation as he was zero zero one. Melvin C. Riley was 011.

So that's the thing. It's like, you know, the people that were writing Stranger Thing, the Duffer brothers, they knew a lot about the remote viewing program when they actually wrote that series. In fact, the original title that they had for it was Project Montau or Montauk. and it was actually another filmmaker who had sued them and said that, I think it was Charlie Hessler, he had sued them and said that they had stolen a lot of information out of his film. And that, you know, that was the thing as it originally was based on the Montauk project, which is what Stranger Things actually came out of.

So, you know, it's like all this stuff about remote viewing. And that's the thing is that these were children that they were doing this remote view. with and they had this thing called the Montauk chair where they would sit in that would enhance their ability somehow and you know they were doing things with this sage radar tower dish as well where they were sending out signals and they could cause people to go on crime sprees they could cause people to gather together like young kids to all gather together for you know no reason whatsoever animals to run in and out of town i mean you name it they were they were doing it You mentioned the name Angoswan.

When I was doing some research on the CIA remote viewing story of the arc and looking into remote viewing, that was a name that kept popping up. It is interesting how this guy, he basically, before NASA confirmed it with their space rovers up there in Saturn, he basically remote viewed the rings on Saturn, correct? And then I think that was a 73, and then it was in 79, it was like NASA, NASA confirmed, hey, there's rings on Saturn. So that was interesting. And then you mentioned the guy McGonagall,

who appears to have accurately showed the government where secret stuff was stored and hidden in the war zones and even found officers that were lost. And yet then the CIA basically shuts down the project or so they told us because it wasn't that accurate, it probably just means it went underground, right? Well, see, the thing is, is that the program was funded year by year. So if it didn't generate any kind of results, they could easily kill the program the following year

when the thing ran out. And that wasn't the case. They kept funding it. In fact, in their own words, they talked about during the Gulf War, they had saved the government, I think it was $20 million by finding a lost gun missiles. So this was the remote viewers. Yeah, and you know, you get into some of the actual stories that the remote viewers themselves tell. Like one of the things that they tasked zero, zero one, just a McMonicle, was to tell them when a satellite that was came out of orbit and it was, they knew it was going to crash.

It was coming down. They wanted to get an idea of where it was going to end up crashing and landing and, you know, a time frame when to expect it. I think he missed it by two or three days. and the area that he said that it was going to come down in, he was off by maybe about 50 miles. So, you know, it's like, who, you know, how many of us can say that? And not only that, but even before we've,

you know the movie Hunt for Red October, the Nautilus class or the Russian sub that was in that movie, he was the first person to ever see it. And he remote viewed it. And when he told them that they had built in this, you know, the biggest submarine, he'd ever seen and he was saying it was wider than a normal submarine and was sitting there explaining to them what it looked like and they were just like no there's no submarines that look

anything like that you're you're you don't know what you're talking about he was talking about the amount of missile tubes that could open up and he's sitting there saying that you know he's never seen anything like this well he told them where it was and he not only that but he told them when it was probably going to launch and I think again he was only off by like a matter of days. And when they actually finally saw the thing surfaced and took photos of it, I mean, he described it to a T. It was exactly everything he said it was.

So the CIA and government agencies were recruiting these guys that supposedly had some psychic abilities, right? Yes. And keep in mind that, you know, not only that, but a lot of the early pioneers like Ingo Swan, how put-off pat price all these people they were all members of scientology so they had been doing this kind of stuff for a very long time they had perfected their techniques and that's when they went on to train others how to do this because they had the CIA and all these different agencies sending people in there and they were like look we'll teach you how to remote you it's easy it's not as hard as you think it is so that you know and you got irva today which you know most people never even heard of

which is where they still teach people the remote viewing techniques. Yeah, it's becoming a definite thing. On my last trip to Egypt, I'm sitting on the plane with this woman next to me. I told her I was going to Egypt, and I asked her, hey, have you ever been there? And she goes, not physically, but I remote viewed it once. And I said, tell me more about this. And she was exactly what you're describing.

She was full-blown like a master yoga instructor who was actually kind of a big deal on Instagram and was into this whole movement of remote viewing to where she would go to places like the Great Pyramid. I said, tell me how you do this. And she was basically saying it's all technique and focus and out. hours of meditation, like the crazy part is it's crazy discipline. It's crazy fasting. And all of these things you might think are spiritual disciplines, right? She is doing to reach this level where she can remote view. So the government had these remote viewing programs. You're saying, but it goes back further to Scientology and to guys like Alastor Crowley

and even further back. But let me ask you this, Jeff. in your research, when the Scientology cult was, I guess, perfecting this thing called remote viewing, did they talk about like what they had to do, like the practices and disciplines to get to the point of this? Or was it just special people with special abilities? No, they talk about it by like tapping into these extra powers, these extra abilities or superhuman abilities. This is the way that they talk about it. So that's the Scientologist's view of it. The actual, I guess the remote viewing military people that came, that were, you know, brought in and trained.

Because remember this all started out at SRI, Stanford Research Institute. And then slowly but surely, you know, what really brought this into the government was that Ingo Swann was tasked with getting into this military part that was down in the very lower basement. that had complete shielding. There was no way of getting into this room, nobody getting into this box. They had some sort of a thing in there that was measuring something. Anyways, he was able to bypass all the security,

get into this room, and cause the machine to fluctuate, do something. And whenever the report got submitted by how put off, this triggered the CIA and several other agencies. And this ain't the only time that they ever did something like this, but this is what got them on the radar of the CIA and all these other agencies. Later on, they had tasked, I believe it was Pat Price. They gave him some coordinates and they wanted to see something about a cabin out in the woods.

And this was a cabin that was owned by one of the people that was part of the program. He just wanted to see if he would describe this cabin that he had out there in the woods and some of the things that were in there. Well, he got within the vicinity. And this is another thing I'm going to get into real quick. Whenever they get in the vicinity of things, sometimes their attention might get drawn to something else. Like another thing, whenever they would give them locations of things, they would be looking to try to see whatever is at that location.

But then something else would grab their attention. And one of the ones they ran into the most was like UFOs. Whenever they would be remote viewing, so something to do with them remote viewing to that particular location would cause, UFOs to go to that location and be there. And once they got there and they were there, then their attention focused on the UFO. They didn't know exactly what it was.

But even Joseph McConnacle or McMonicle, he had said that there was plenty of times whenever he would, next thing he knows, he's in a craft. And he's like all crunched up in this craft. And there's these little beings in there with big bulbous eyes and they're staring at him like, what are you doing here? You know, he said that that happened to him more times. And Ingo Swan, whenever they would tell Ingo, hey, so-and-so said he saw a UFO at this location. We want to see if you see the exact same UFO and he'd be like, I'm not doing that.

He's like, because if they catch me spying on them, then they're going to come and they're going to come spy on me. And I don't want any of that. So that's another thing. But so you have these people that would be looking for like a submarine or, you know, they, you know, there's a submarine in this particular area. So they're tasked with, you know, finding this. submarine letting them know exactly where it's located. And whenever they would be looking for the submarine, all of a sudden they see something and they say there's a there's a thing, you know, I don't know what this is, but it's hovering 40,000 feet over and it's moving, you know,

lightning fast. And then whenever they would ask him, it would be like, can you draw a picture of it? And he would draw a picture of a UFO. So you mentioned Project Montau. A lot of this goes back to that. Again, just give us a little bit more on Project Montauk. When was this? Where was it? And And basically what were they doing? Okay, Project Montauk was a program that actually came out of the Philadelphia experiment, which was Tesla and Einstein, where they were trying to come up with this technology where they could shield something off of radar. So they could make ships disappear, things like that.

And supposedly whenever they rendered that experiment and ran it, the ship not only disappeared off the radar, but it disappeared from sight and completely just utterly disappeared and reappeared somewhere else further down the coast. So that's how that started. Well, then that led to them, you know, working, taking some of that, the stuff that they were working on with that, as well as tapping into a lot of the Nazi stuff that they had gotten into where they were doing something similar, but it was more or less like mind control. and they were taking these MK Ultra techniques because I know that,

well, you might know who Russ Dizdar, wrote the book, The Black Awakening. That was one of the things that he wrote in there was one of the reasons why they choose children and they want to shadow their minds. You know, they do stuff where they have like a tub of ice water and a tub of hot water. And they will grab the kid and throw them in one tub. And then after, you know, so long you ankle them out and they throw them in the other. And they just keep going back and forth, back and forth. And he said that the reason why they do this is to open them up to these demonic powers that they could tap into.

So this is what it's all about. And the Nazis had already figured out, you know, they were looking into like satanic ritual abuse and things like that. So that's where this whole thing about M.K. Ultra, the mind control, is that they figured if they can tap into the power of the mind, then they can tap into these demonic powers. Okay. So you brought up the Nazis. Let's let's go down that rabbit trail a little bit. and their occult sciences, their search for artifacts, the real society. Yeah, the Nazis, they were, when they were going around and they were conquering territories,

they were taking all the occult books that they could get their hands on. And we're talking about like Masonic lodges, like all these secret societies that had, you know, vast libraries of books that probably never seen the light of day for, you know, hundreds of years. And so they're getting their hands on it, like, some of the, the most rare, hard-to-find books, books that, you know, most people don't even know exist. And they were pouring over these books. They had a branch called the Honor Nurebe, and that was the job of the Honor Nurebe was to really dig in, you know, all this archaeological stuff, ancient

stuff that you're talking about. And so think of them like the Indiana Jones section of the Nazi party. So these people are really digging into a lot of this ancient stuff. And The more that they were reading, they were, first they were looking for like artifacts, like the spear of destiny or whatever, the one that pierced Christside as well as other religious objects. But they were also looking for stuff that talked about the hollow earth and things like that. And so then they found out that there was these books called the Edas that were part of the Vikings and stuff like that, the Norse and all that kind of stuff. So they were looking for these things called the Edas. that would describe like hollowars. They went to places like Tibet,

and they were dealing with the Dalai Lamas, as well as all the people over there, because, you know, supposedly there was Mount Shambola. So I think that was the part that was actually over in Tibet. And so it's like they have all these different locations, but then, like I said, when they really started digging into the Edas,

that's what led them down to Antarctica, and they set up base 247 or 211, the whole thing about Admiral Donuts. and him talking about how they had created this impenetrable fortress down there that was a Shangri-La of sorts. Well, you know, Shangri-La deals with the Hollow Earth. So they had obviously made contact. And, you know, even when we were talking to Timothy Albarino one time, and we got into the whole discussion about the Chinano, which is this underground highway

that leads from, like, Bolivia, through Peru, all the way out to the Amazon rainforest. And we even, Timothy even brought up, and he goes, I think it actually goes all the way down to Ann Arbor. And he goes, I believe that's why Hitler made it to Argentina so that he could get to the Chincana. And then he just went underground all the way down there. And another interesting fact about the Nazis. I don't know if I talked about this last time when we talked, but Helena Blavatsky in her book, The Secret Doctor of Volume 2, she talked about the Aryans as well as the Atlanta, because the Aryans were descendants of the Atlanteans well.

in that book of Dizion section in her book Secret Doctor Volume 2, she talks about that they built statues the height of their bodies, which were nine yachties high. Well, a yacht is high. that would make them 27 feet tall. You know, and when you hear about Lannis, it had the 10 rulers, and it was five sets of twins. And then, you know, we're bringing the whole 27 feet tall. Well, now you got the whole Nephalum gen 6 connection. So the Nazis, they had this whole side, this whole deep, dark sect that was trying to manifest entities as well, correct? Yes.

The Vril Maidens, you know, they were part of the Vril period. That whole section of it, that was getting more into the occult stuff. I mean, On and Irby did as well. But the Vril, they had the, you. women that had hair all the way down to their ankles and they talked about their hair being like antennas that opened them up to you know be able to communicate with entities and other dimensions and so on or even supposedly far off in outer space but um it was uh two virulmaids one was called sigram the other one was maria orsick and they had made contact with some entity they were they were

see and this I also get into this in the film it's like they were tasked with making contact with a dead SS officer to retrieve information that he died before he was able to submit and even in the film I get into the fact that the CIA was doing the exact same thing trying to contact dead CIA officers and get information so it's like you see this whole connection they're all doing the same things over and over but whenever they tried to make contact. with this dead SS officer. They made contact with something else. And they went into these trance-like states, and it said that their eyes rolled back in their head, and they said that they started to exhale ectoplasm. You could see it coming out of their nostrils in their mouth, and they began automatic writing.

And while they were doing this automatic writing, one was writing in a dead Templar language, and the other one was writing in Sanskrit. And it took them several years to decipher what they wrote down, and whatever they finally cracked what they had written down. One was to create the Hanibu, which was the UFO craft that they were known to have. And, you know, some people joke about it and say it's not real, but no, there's actual footage from like the 1930s where you can actually see them test flighting actual hounibou. But also the de glaco, which was the bell.

So that's where they got this from. This was technology that was fed to them from some entities in another dimension or somewhere demonic or whatever. So they're channeling these entities that are basically giving them blueprints for technology for craft. Exactly. That is crazy to consider. Now tell me a little bit more about this blue plasma that came out of them. What was this exactly? Oh, the ectoplasm.

I don't know if you've ever seen. the movie Ghostbusters and things like that. They talk about this ectoplasm. It's something that spiritual beings they excrete it comes out of them. Whether it be slime or it would be some kind of a mist or a vapor

or something like that. But that's what they described it as like a vapor. There's a mist that was coming out of their nostrils in their mouths while they were in this state. And this was coming out of the maidens with a long hair, right? Yes. So their eyes are rolling back. This

Plasma's coming out. It's like they're channeling this entity and then they're getting, they're writing in ancient languages. That's insane to consider. You mentioned, so they get the blueprints for these craft. Let's talk about a Nazi, you know, forbidden technology. What do you believe they had? And then let's talk about the Antarctica connection, the secret bases. You mentioned the Hollow Worth and Admiral Bird down there. the whole thing about Operation High Jump, which took place back in 1947, 1946 or 1947 right in that area, it was three different military agencies around the world. It was the United States Navy as well as the Navy of UK as well as Australia

that all went down there under the supposed premise that they were doing scientific experiments, but yet they took 13 ships down there with them. Aircraft carrier, we're talking thousands of troops, and they were supposed to be down there for, I believe, a year, and they weren't even there for maybe less than two months. And whenever they came back, some of the people that were on board the ship said that they saw craft coming out of the water

and that they had some sort of energy weapons that cut through the ships, like a knife through butter. And they supposedly everything, you know, just they finished up, they came back, but yet they were missing a ship when they came back as well. And there was even, I believe there was transmissions that had gone out from Admiral Bird back to the United States that the South America had intercepted, where they were talking about these craft that moved at incredible speeds

and said that they could fly from one end to the planet to the other in a matter of seconds. And so do you think this craft or whatever they encountered, was it the Nazis or was it something else? See, this is what I'm talking about. We know that they had crafted their own back in the early 30s. So this, you know, takes place quite a bit of time. So it could have been their craft, you know, that they had finally perfected over, you know, more than a decade. But it could have also been a combination. It could have been something else as well as them.

We know that they obviously made. contact with something down there because, you know, once they figured out, once they got their hands on the edas that they had really been searching for, that's when everything, they all beeline straight for Antarctica and they were not only there doing the base 211 thing, but then you have a, the most famous admiral of their fleet, the Navy fleet for the Nazis, saying that they had set up an impregnable fortress and referred to it as a Shangri-La of sorts. So that's Admiral Donuts. And even the history channel, which is pretty mainstream. They had their in search of Hitler series years ago, which basically laid it out

to me undeniable that the Nazis were in Argentina. They found all these old dwellings from the 40s, and there's all these people that live there with blonde hair and blue eyes. And so it's clearly there was so much more than we were told about this war. And it's likely that Hitler, did escape down to Argentina, if not Antarctica. But again, Admiral Bird from this Operation High Jump, from my research, back in his day, he was like the Colin Powell, you know, of our day back in the day, Colin Powell's this decorated war general. That's how Admiral Bird was seen.

He was even a Time Magazine man of the year, I believe. So this was- Had two different parades as well. This was a legitimate war hero who, like you said, goes down to Antarctica with this huge fleet. And from what I remember, you know, upon his death, his house was ransacked, his everything taken and classified, correct? Well, some of it. They do have a diary of his that's actually in one of the college museums. And this diary is actually out there.

It's well known. and most people just don't know about it. But in that diary, he talks, because remember, he did the polar expeditions as well. And there was one of the polar expeditions where he was flying over the North Pole. And they literally came upon a forest in the middle of the North Pole. And, you know, it started turning green and lush. And it was a forest. They said they saw a woolly mammoths and all sorts of things roaming around down there.

And then these craft appeared out of nowhere and took cadetion. control of his plane and took him inside the hollow earth. And while he was there, he met this entity that referred to itself as the master. And he told Admiral Byrd, you know, specific things that he went back and he told the people in charge of the United States. And it wasn't long after he got back and started talking to a few people. One of the people that he got together with and talked was Admiral Forrestall. And you know who Admiral Forrestall is. He was the first. secretary, the secretary of defense for the United States. He was so bothered and disturbed by what Bird had told him.

They tried to say that he had a nervous breakdown, but I think he was very, let's just say he was very outspoken and they didn't want him talking to certain people. So they had him committed and put in Bethesda, Maryland's hospital. And after being there for a short time, He kept talking about craft and different things that the U.S. government was aware of, but that they were hiding from the American people. And then one night, he just happened to fall out of the 16th floor window. And then after that, Bird shut up and quit talking about anything.

Right. And so, okay, was it Forrestall that talked about the craft during Operation High Jump or was it Bird? Bird came back and told Forrestol. He's the secretary of defense. And then, you know, he was so disturbed and he was having talks with the president and other people. And he wouldn't shut up about it. Yeah, I mean, again, these are decorated war heroes back from the day. And one conveniently falls out of a building. The other was a Time magazine guy of the year.

So it's crazy when you get into the research on Operation High Jump and what these guys said they saw. And it's crazy, Chad, you know, it seems like the last 20 years. Heads of state from all developed Western nations have been going down to Antarctica. You know, you had John Kerry and you had the German chancellor. You had all these bigwigs going down to Antarctica. Even religious, key religious people going down there, like the Russian version of the Pope going down there. I mean, you got Obama. You know, it's like tons of different people have gone down there.

And it's like, what is so significant that requires their attendance down there? Who are they going down there to talk to or see or pay homage to? Yeah, what are they going down there to see? I believe there's likely ancient artifacts there that they've discovered that are, you know, top secret, probably craft from, you know, the Nazi era that's there. But maybe more. You know, there's whistleblowers that have said they have seen there was a helicopter pilot that was interviewed by what's her name? Linda Moultenhow.

Linda Moultenhow, yes, thank you. Who basically said as he was transporting, you know, a burn victim. It was a burn victim. He flew a big aircraft to go pick up burn victims or people involved in accidents down there. and whenever they were flying there, they were told to go the specific route when they were coming back. He was in such a bad shape, you know, because of the severity of the burns that he had suffered. They were like, we got to get there as quick as we possibly can. So they're like, you know, I know they tell us not to go this way, but we're going this way.

And whenever they flew that direction, they flew right over an entrance right into the hollow earth. And he said that it freaked him out when he saw what he saw. Oh, you mentioned Kenneth Arnold and this hitchhiker phenomena. I want to know a little bit more about that because Kenneth Arnold is the guy that basically famously saw some of the first UFOs in the 40s here in my neck of the woods by Mount Rainier. So tell us about what he saw and then this hitchhiker phenomena that you talk about in your movie. Yeah, the Skinwalker Ranch is what everybody, when they hear this hitchhacker phenomenon, that's where our minds go. because that was one of the very first places we ever heard it discussed and talked about was this place called Skandwager Ranch.

You go out there, you're going to bring something home with you. You don't know what you're going to get because it's, you know, it could be a lot of different things. But, you know, so it's like that's where, that's what all this research started out about was a specific location and this thing about this hitchhiker phenomenon. Well, then I quickly ran into something different because that's what led me into the remote viewing was that some of the remote viewers. Chad, when you say hitchhiker phenomenon, you're basically saying that if you're in a strange area like Skinwalker Ranch, some entity can attach itself to you and you're kind of stuck with it for a while. Is that what you're saying?

Yes. You know, I mean, think of it like, you know, something that, you know, connects with you and it just trails along. And it doesn't necessarily affect you. So let's say you went out to Skinwalker Ranch. It's not going to affect you. You know, when you come back home or whatever or if you go somewhere, it's going to affect. those around you so it'll affect your immediate family friends co-workers you know people in your neighborhood people that you know and that's what that's why i say it spreads out like a virus that's it's whatever your network is it spreads out like a virus through your network and that's the easiest way to describe it and so you know here i am i'm specifically looking at skinwalker ranch looking at the the the chichagrin phenomenon then all of a sudden i come across this story about Yuri Geller. And when they brought him over to the Stanford Research Institute and they were running him

through the paces to see if he could remote view. And once they taught him, they had scientists that were monitoring him to see if they could figure out, you know, what was going on behind the scenes. Well, the scientists that were monitoring Yuri Geller, they started having the hitchhiker phenomenon taking place at their homes with their families and their friends and so on. And so it's like, wait a second. So Skinwalker Ranch isn't the origin of this, whatever this phenomenon is. It's something else.

So it's like, okay, well, now you got remote viewing mixed up in this. Well, then I was reading another book, and I came across Kenneth Arnold. And it was talking about Kenneth Arnold and keep in mind, this is not even two weeks after the Roswell crash. And the Roswell crash happened right after the Babylon working ritual. So it's like, you know, here you got Parsons and Hubbard doing this. Babylon working ritual where they say that they supposedly ripped a hole in space time and that things were, you know, coming and going in and out of it and that they couldn't stop it. And, you know, that was the thing they left, never went back and tried to, you know, they say that

whoever opens the door has to be the one to close it when it comes to magic and magicians and things like that. I don't know, but I'm just saying what they say. And so he never closed whatever it was that they did. And, you know, you have not a only Hubbard saying that they were successful because of some of the things that they witnessed and saw, but even Parsons later on in his autobiography said that whatever they had created, because that was the thing, they were using what they call a ninth-degree sex magic to bring about, bring something into existence that was profane, and that this would have something to do with the, either the son of perdition or the Antichrist. And that's what the Babylon

working ritual was all about. Well, he said that something was born, something did come. Because keep in mind, right after that all went down, is when Elron Hubbard stole Jack Parsons' wife and ran away with her. And she was the one that they performed the Babylon working ritual with. So these three people. And this is in the 50s? This is in 1946, 1947.

Okay. And this is happening in California somewhere? California could be even out in the, desert in Nevada or something like that. Parsons and Hubbard are these big time space program guys. Well, Hubbard was a failed science fiction writer and he knew how to, you know, he rubbed shoulders with a lot of important people, but Parsons was somewhat enamored with him and then he was enamored with Parsons because of all the magical things that he could, that he could do. So that's how they ended up coming together and then they started working he was like you know let's take this amal

launcher working ritual that rowley did and let's tweak it and let's do our own thing and let's see if we can do this and and here's another little tidbit that probably should hit on just because it's one of those you know blow your mind moments the jehovah's witnesses said that a specific date would lead to the end of the world and the date and you know i'm not promoting jehovah's witnesses but i've just i find this is one of these interesting facts. The date that they said that the end of the world would start or begin on was the exact same day that Jack Parsons was born. And that was the whole Babylon working ritual,

him bringing about the horror Babylon the end of the world. What are the odds of that? Sorry, I forgot, you had asked me about Kenneth Arnold and the hitchhiker phenomenon. I never finished that point. I'm sorry about that. But yeah, the thing about Kenneth Arnold is, That takes place less than two weeks after the Roswell crash. And before that, you had the Babylon working ritual going on.

So it's like this chain of events that leads up to this. And then all of a sudden, he sees these nine crafts over Mount Rainier, Washington. And he coined the phrase, they look like saucers skipping on a pond. And that's where the whole term flying saucer came from was when he made that statement. But it was in his autobiography. And I didn't realize this. another researcher who had put this information all in one cohesive thought and he had said that after he had witnessed these nine craft they started having polter gas activity taking place

inside the Kenneth Arnold home and it wasn't he didn't it wasn't the only one it saw even his daughter and other people saw it and his daughter has gone on and done interviews and she's talked about it as well that that there was all this poltergast and crazy things going on after he had this encounter so here you got people who have close encounters, whether it be with entities or craft, you have people that are tapping into things about the mind as far as like remote viewing, so on. And then you have specific charge locations as well. And they all have this one thing in common. And then you're saying a lot of these names and faces that seem to be leading the modern day UFO disclosure. You mentioned Grush, Elizondo. You're saying these guys are actually connected with this remote viewing world.

They work under Jay Stratton. Like I said, Jay Stratton is the one who is in the background. He's finally started showing up on Skinwalker Ranch TV show. He's now out in the limelight. He's come out and done interviews with George Knapp. But he's also in this new UFO series, this new UFO documentary. coming out. I think it's called Age of Disclosure. And in that trailer, you actually see Jay Stratton say, I've not only seen the craft, but I've seen the bodies of the, or I've seen the entities for his exact words. So this is the main guy. He's, and like I said, when you go and look at Jay Stratton's, you know, all the awards and merits and everything, it's a long grocery list of all this stuff, but a vast majority of it has to do with Naval. And

So when I say that's why I put the clip in there of Arizona Wilder talking about, they are doing these satanic rituals out at these military bases. And they use military bases because they don't have to worry about oversight or anybody talking. And so they are doing all this. But she says specifically, most of the people that are out there that are doing this are part of naval intelligence. And she said a vast majority of them are part of the ordo template. Orianas. That's the key takeaway right there. Naval Intelligence, Ordo Templi Orionius, Alastaira. And so you have Ray Boucher, who is the pastor that we interviewed

in higher entities, who said that the two gentlemen had reached out from the DOJ and the DIA and all that and came to him and said that they themselves also had witnessed that they're doing these satanic rituals on military bases, and that they are summoning these things. And that they are summoning these things here and that they are getting something out of it. It freaked them out to such a degree that they went to Ray Boucher because he was not only a pastor, but that he had worked for Mufon for decades. And so they approached him and was talking to him. And I mean, that's what this is all about. They've been in contact with these entities for a long time, not just the Nazis, but the United States government, all the other governments of the world are in contact and

working with them side by side, they are getting something out of it. And so a lot of this stuff about this disclosure that's coming, and you hear them talking about the Collins elite, well, that was the Collins elite, the ones that reached out to Ray Boucher, the two individuals, they were the Collins elite. They were the ones who came out and said that we're seeing this. It's freaking us out. You hear people like Lou Elisando and all these other people talking about the Collins elite. That's who they're talking about.

Same thing with even George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell. They say how they get up to these three, four-star generals, and they start getting pushback, and they're like, you know, you don't want to know what this is. Fast forward to where we're at today. You know, you got, was it Jake Barber and all of them talking about how they are summoning these things with psionics? Well, what does that sound like? Does that sound like remote viewing to you?

Because it sure sounds like it to me. And then you have them summoning these things. Well, that's what they were doing back then as well, as they were doing rituals and they were summoning these things. I think that disclosure is on the horizon, but I just, this is what I'm saying is it's not going to be what people expect. And I think a lot of people's jaws are about to hit the floor. And there's going to be a lot of minds exploding. So when you say Collins elite, that was a group of elite men, correct?

These are people that were in the military and like the Department of Justice, the Defense Intelligence Agency, who were in the military and they were seeing the government. doing these demonic satanic rituals and that they were summoning entities into our three-dimensional reality this whole thing when jake barber came out and was talking about that egg UFO that they had because he was part of a crash retrieval program and then come to find out they were using this group called psionics where they were remote viewing and they have something now that has recently come out they call it the dog whistle and it supposedly works on a specific frequency well wherever we seen a specific frequency used quite a lot on a specific TV show like Skinwalker Ranch where

they talk about the 1.6 gigahertz. I don't know if that's what it is, but I find it odd that they say that they can use technology and they refer to this thing as a dog whistle and they say that every time they turn it on, these crafts are appearing and they're capturing them on film. And there was one that they actually, one of the guys on the psionics team said that they could take control of these craft. And so he took control of a craft and was bringing it to where they were at and then all of a sudden another craft showed up

and started attacking it. Here's another one for the people who are all into like, say, DMT and ayahuasca. Well, why is it that Graham Hancock in his book Supernatural, get towards the end of it, he talks about this ayahuasca trip that he went on and he just so happened to bump into the gray aliens

on this ayahuasca trip. So what are they doing in this realm? You see what I'm saying? It's like, this stuff is all, all so connected. It's not even funny. Yeah. Okay. One other thing I was going to ask you about my notes. In one of your interviews I saw on your YouTube channel, and I'm going to link Chad's YouTube in our show notes, so follow him on YouTube, get his film at the link. In one of your interviews, you talked

about a NASA, I think it was a NASA employee who was being interviewed by somebody else. You were just referencing this, but there's an actual video of it. And he was talking about how, about the Ouija board hitting him in the chest. and he tried to move away from it in different chairs. That's the guy that worked at Skinwalker Ranch that I'm talking about. Chris Max, he went on, what's that guy's name, Greg Greenwald Jr.'s podcast, The Vault, the Black Vault. So he was on The Black Vault talking to Greg Greenfield, and he worked out there as security. And he said that early on that they were, they started doing, they started, he's sitting there just talking about all the security work, things that they were weird things.

they were seeing things that were going on. But then all of a sudden he just like completely takes a, you know, turn out in the left field and it's like, oh, yeah, by the way, we were doing, we got into the occult out there. And, you know, you just see Greg Greenwald's eyes get huge. And he's like, what, what did you just say? And so he's like, yeah, he's like, we did things with Ouija boards. We put out offerings.

And he talked about one day they had multiple cameras set up in this room and they had a Ouija board with this planchette on it. and while he was getting ready to do stuff, this planchette kept lifting up off the board. It was levitating, and he said that it would fly across the room and hit him in the chest. So he got up and moved from multiple locations around this table, and every time he got up and sat at a different spot,

it still did the same thing. It would lift up off the board. It would levitate, and then it would fly across the room and hit him in the chest. So, you know, and then he talked about when they were putting these offerings out that after three days, after they put out, these offerings that things started to manifest and started to appear out in the pastures and out in the areas where they were leaving these offerings and like I said again you know it's like

this is like summoning you know and you start playing with this stuff but yeah and in that area of skinwalker ranch the crazy thing is the Native American legends that go way back to the ancient days of what these skin walkers did you know what these medicine man basically could transform and do. It's like they had perfected the art of summoning and manifestation. And so you wonder how much of that is because of the soil it's on. Well, it's not just that, but even the, you know, you're familiar with the great witch purge of 1878. That was during the, when they moved the oots off of the land and they were resettling them, a lot of the Indians in the tribe thought it had something to do with, you know, witches.

So, and I think it was one of the people that they had dug up. They had dug up somebody they suspected of being a witch. And whenever they found that when they dug that person up, they said that there was a copy of the treaty like inside their skeleton. And they said after that happened and they just went on the purge. Anybody they suspected of being a witch within their community, they just, they executed them, killed them all. And so it's like, you know, a lot of the crazy stuff.

that was going on. But keep in mind, this stuff was going on for a very long time out in that area, even as far back as 1776, which is the founding of the country. It was when the Illuminati came about. You know, they talked about there was a Franciscan monk out there who saw three fireballs flying over in the sky over their fire out there in 1776. So it's like, this is nothing new. This has been going on out in that area. But even in the film, I have Brandon Fugel. you hear him in his own words talking about the Native Americans out there. And the way that they described it to him, he said that they think of these things as demonic entities. And that's why they go up and they put like hides and skins and things like that up on the fence so that they can keep the demons at bay.

And that's his words. That's not my words. That's him. And even when you look at the ancient petroglyphs in Utah, they're the strangest of any in North America. I mean, I think they're called the Uintah Basin petroglyphs, the dry fork petroglyphs. There's some different ones, but I've been showing a picture the last couple of years that just blew my mind when I saw it. You've probably seen it. It's called the Bigfoot.

And it's this ancient entity that's, you know, etched into the rock. It's a literal petroglyph. And it shows this elongated, sculled, horned entity with six fingers. on each hand and these massive giant feet, like giant feet. Yeah, so it's interesting what the petroglyphs even seem to depict regarding all of this. So, Chad, thank you so much for your time. A couple of questions. When is your next film coming up?

That is a good question. I still got some more research to do on that, but that's going to be the one on the nine. And, yeah, it's going to cover a lot of territory. you. It's going to bring it all complete full circle and bring it home. Skinwalkers and Stranger Things of the Unseen Realm. I'm going to put it in the show notes of this podcast, but people can also find it on Vimeo if they just search that title, correct? Yes, and also I'll send you the link for the True Seekers Research YouTube page as well. And if they want to go on there and watch a few clips from the film and even watch the first nine and a half minutes,

I put it all on there free of charge, check it out. See if it's something that you might find fascinating, that you might get some. good information out of and yeah please share it like subscribe so your YouTube channel is called truth seekers correct true seekers one word and then research cool so everybody follow chad on YouTube at truth seekers research like get his film on vimeo you will not be disappointed this thing is like hours and hours long so you're gonna have two and a half you're gonna get your money's worth and is there anywhere else people can follow you or uh on social media or anything like that? Yeah, I'm on Facebook as well. So if you go on there and you type

in Chad Raleigh, you'll see the TrueS research logo. Send me a friend request. And if you got any questions, reach out to me. Let me know. Cool, Chad. Well, thank you so much for your time today. This was, man, the hour plus flew by. And really looking forward to this next film. I'm hoping it comes out. I hope we don't have to wait too many years. It's always a pleasure coming on here and talking with you and look forward to our next talk. All right. Thanks, Chad.