Megalithic Marvels - Nephilim Resurrection Chambers & Interdimensional Technology / Gary Wayne

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

In this exclusive Megalithic Marvels interview, I sit down with historian and author of the "Genesis 6 Conspiracy" series - Gary Wayne. Renown for his deep knowledge and research into Biblical history, mythology and secret societies, what Gary's 40 years of research has uncovered will amaze you. From ancient Nephilim DNA and bloodlines, to the interdimensional technology that they possessed, to the modern day manifestation of CERN, this is a conversation that you will want to buckle up for...GET GARY'S BOOKSJOIN ME ON A TOUR

Well, I am really excited to have back with me, author Gary Wayne, author of the Genesis 6 conspiracy, part one and two. And he's got a third book coming out. But Gary, if you don't know, he is renowned for his knowledge and expertise regarding biblical history, prophecy, mythology, secret societies, so many incredible topics. And what Gary's 40 years of research has uncovered is going to blow your mind. Gary, thanks so much for joining me again. Well, thank you for inviting me again and so happy to be back. And, you know, we've worked together over the years and I follow your research. I'm amazed at the places you go and the things you see and the pictures you take.

And, you know, I think you're living the dream. So I write about it. You go visit and take pictures about it. So glad to be back. Thank you. It's great to have you back. Actually, I might have to try to get you on one of my tours. How cool would that be to have a tour with special guest, Gary Wayne?

That would be pretty awesome, I think. Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. I'll look into that. Well, we are going to talk about some incredible things in this episode. I mean, we're going to talk all things, Nephilim, as the title of Gary's books, talk about the Genesis 6 conspiracy. It's all about the origins of the Nephilim, giants, the hybrids, what they did, what happened to them.

And even he gets into their bloodlines and how he believes they're going to return at the end of the age. Some crazy stuff. So we're going to talk all things, Nephilim. I want to talk about Gilgamesh, Sumerian texts, possible prehistoric bloodlines, the anatomy of the Nephilim. But before we dive into that, just a quick reminder to everybody, please subscribe to my channel from wherever you are watching or listening. If you're on Spotify, leave me a five-star rating that really helps me to break through the algorithms. And lastly, consider joining me on one of my 2026 tours. I am going to Peru and Bolivia this September.

I am going to Turkey in October and I'm going to Egypt in December. We got some awesome special deals through the next month or so. So go to megalithic marvels.com slash tours to check all that out or click the link. link in the show notes below. So, Gary, I am super excited about this topic. And my first question I want to ask you is, it kind of seems to me like the Nephilim are going mainstream these days. You know, first we had UFOs going mainstream.

Now we've got aliens going mainstream with President Obama last week saying he believes aliens are real. That went viral. Now we've got guys like Tucker Carlson and many others, big media figures with shows talking about the Nephilim giants, the book of Enoch. And so I've got to ask you, how does it feel when you've been studying this stuff for 40 years? And I believe played a big role in bringing it to mainstream today. Yeah, it warms my heart to see information being out there coming in from all sorts of avenues.

When I came on the public scene, which was about 10 years ago now, giants were out there, but very, very sort of limited in terms of a size of the genre and market and very limited amount of in-depth kind of research on it. I'm not saying that people that came before me didn't do good work, but they took it from the sort of the, sort of the, dusty shells in the back rooms of museums and things into the forefront. And it's hard to get attention on that without being labeled sort of a kook. And so when I came on the stream, I was happy to see that the topic was out there.

And I had not done research on the people that, and looked at their research on the people that were already in the genre. But I came out and realized that my work was going to be, significantly more advanced and in depth than what was out there and expand on the genre. And so the first year or so was really pushing a rock uphill because I'd have hosts who were just stunned at some of the things I might say. And I was just skimming the surface at that time. I actually had one host say that, well, you look normal, but you say that. the craziest things.

And that's the point. I want to get things out to people and have them assess the world that we work in. So over the years, I've seen it sort of get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. But what the problem is still, for the most part, is people are just talking heads on it still. And so it gets the headline, but it's kind of a blank page after that.

Or you might get the opening sentence if you want to continue with the analogy, but you don't get the in-depth detail on it. And what my research does for people is it goes to those deeper levels. It connects things that are all related to it. And it shows a common history that's been kept from us, which is very much part of your research from exploring megalis and ancient architecture and things like that. And dealing with the brainwashing that's out there

and the, what I would call, you know, dumbing down and hiding of information to keep to a narrative that doesn't make any sense. So you've probably experienced the same things. I think we kind of came on the market kind of similarly at a similar time, which was an interesting to work with you over the year. So now to hear it, and the word like Nephilim and Raphaim, and when I came out, nobody even used the word Raphaim. And to hear it on some very mainstream podcasts, and it's not obviously full mainstream yet, mainstream yet, but it's getting there. And people are saying, wait a minute, something's wrong in the world today.

I'm not sure what it is, but it seems to have something to do from where we came from and that we're getting all of this information that's coming in. and what's probably going to happen over the next number of years, yes, we're going to get a lot more information and a lot more good information, but we're going to get a lot of misinformation and stuff as well. And so we want to be able to hold credibility to the research. And that's kind of what I do, is I try and give people enough information that they can say, hey, there's veracity to what he says.

And I should look into this a little bit more. Well said. Yeah, I believe you were one of my first interviews, way back when I first started, you know, 10 plus years ago. So it's really been amazing, Gary, to watch your career develop. You released the first book, Genesis 6 Conspiracy. And then I started to see you doing interviews all over the place. And I know the book sales have taken off.

And then you put out Genesis 6 Conspiracy Part 2. And so everybody, make sure to go to Genesis6 Conspiracy.com to check out more about Gary's books, and I would strongly suggest you by both of them, especially after you're going to hear this interview today. Gary also has a great Facebook group on Facebook. It's just called the Gary Wayne and the Genesis 6 conspiracy. So go there.

He puts out great information throughout the week. But it's really been cool to see your career develop. So I guess my next question, Gary, you know you've got 40 years plus of research into all of this two books now you're constantly learning new things i know is there any new takeaways um regarding the nephalim the golden age anything like that that's new and fresh that you go kind of makes you do a double take on something new you didn't maybe know 10 years ago yeah i think um It's the advent of technology that's coming in and what it's going to do to help make the days of Noah come back to us.

And for people who think the days of Noah were low tech, it's the opposite. We're catching up to the days of Noah. So it's going to be like those days. And the only way we can understand that is through the lens of the prehistoric and historical records. which is why it's being dumbed down so that the narrative can be controlled as all of this sort of comes to play. But it's that technology aspect that I could not quite sort of speculate on how it might have an influence or an effect on the Nephilim narrative, other than they ran the world,

they controlled the organizations both before and after the flood, still due to this day with their descendants. But, and in book one, I speculate on the new Nephilim. You know, are they going to be a recreation by the fallen angels or gods with human, males and females? Or are they going to be somehow associated with technology? Or are they just going to be the descendants or is it all of the above in terms of how they're going to have an effect in the end time?

And the more your research into it, you learn that there was, technology and things associated with giants that were not, they're not well known, but we get them sort of indicated to us in certain sort of stories, like with the David and Goliath story. And for people who don't know, Goliath was six cubits in a span, and King of Gath, which would make him 11 feet, three inches on a royal cubit that Josephus says to use. and he's called stout, as all giants were stout. That means strong, muscular, like a WWF wrestler or a lineman, not chubby. So all muscle.

And so David, you know, he takes Goliath down with a stone, but he doesn't leave it there. That should kill anybody. But he takes Goliath sword and takes his head. Well, what's going on? Is that just for show? Yes, because he picks up the head and he shows it to the Philistines. He shows it to the Israelites and the Israelites take the momentum to route the Philistines that day. But then he takes the head over to Jerusalem and is buried on Golgatha,

which is kind of an ideological route to the story of the hill of Golgotha. So there's a reason he takes the head. And there's a reason taking heads are associated with nephalum, giants, and anything related to giants like vampires. I won't go down the vampire allegory, but understand that's an allegory for this bloodline of royals. And so the head has to be taken. Why? Well, they have the ability to heal themselves. And biblically, we don't get told this.

we just see the heads being taken in certain stories. And Goliath is the most sort of obvious one to people with the giant, called a giant, great warrior, the size, and, you know, the great mythos of the story. So in the Eugoretic text, which is a great set of text to study, because Uyghurit was between Tier and Mount Hermann in the north of the Covenant land, And was the city of Ogg as you take Ugun and Arit back to their Hebrew and put Kyriehath in front of it, it would be city of Og, the terrible one, before he moves over to Mount Hermann. And the Uyghuritic texts were written in original Semitic, vowelists in the beginning, and then the evolution of the language the vowels were put in. And it is almost identical to the old Hebrew.

So we get words that cross over, like RPM giants at Bail and the Balim Council biblically created. So now we have more links because we have the Balim and the Balim Council in the Bible, and we have Raphaim giants after the flood in the Bible versus Nephilim generally before the flood. And in the Eucharitic text, typically the RPM, the Rapy, them, depending on which transliteration you might be looking at. at, they're going to be sort of understood as kings and healers. And that's because the Hebrew word for Rafa, source word is healer, or to heal. And out of that comes 7490, so 7495 for Rafa for healer, 7496 for a demonic spirit or an evil spirit, disembodied spirit of the giant.

and 7497 for the tribes of giants. And they're all interconnected and all carry some of the meaning. And so they were healers. And in the Eucharitic text, it says that they could heal themselves and heal others. So there's a technology and or a bio-relation, you know, something within the DNA that would let this happen. And so it sought that they could grow back a hand or an arm or a leg. They were very, very difficult to kill. And the only way of killing them was to take their head to do something so suddenly with the head that it couldn't be repaired in time before the body died.

And so that would require DNA to do that or a resurrection chamber or a healing chamber or a digital bed as we start to understand. that in today's developing technology, that would be able to do this. And so that's an interesting set of definitions and terms that we can link into these giants and why David would take the head to make sure he stayed dead. And in the execration text and other texts of Egypt, the worst death a royal could have is the taking of the head. It was the most shame you could do on your enemy giants. and typically they thought that that would not permit them to go to their heaven,

which is in Hades or Shaol, and either wander the earth in dry places as the devil damon spirits, as you take that back to the Greek in the New Testament, that Jesus is depossessing, are possessing people. These are demons, disembodied spirits of the giants. Or they would, if they were one of the terrible ones, as Ezekiel 32 talks about, you go when you die to the pit prison

and the sides of the pit prison to be with the angels, the strong ones in there, and both are talking to Pharaoh Niko, named Niko isn't mentioned, but he's the Pharaoh of the time of Nebuchadnezzar, who is the terrible of nations at that time. So it's all talking about these royals and these descendants. So when we look at the connection to the Eucharitic text,

technology and healing, then we have something that sort of came up that I got my hands on a number of years ago, which comes out of the U.S. government and from a FOIA request to tie this in with a bowtie and will take us probably in a thousand different directions. But there's a FOIA request that was done by a Denetra Senegar, FOIA number F-Dash-2,

2019-0211.0.02110. And D' Netra is from the Hillary Clinton office, former Secretary of State, oversaw parts of the Iraq War. And she's requesting, and I'm going to read it and quote it here, Denetra de Senegal requesting documents pertaining to the Resurrection Chamber of Gilgamesh, the location of his body,

and the location of the buried Nephling. So what the heck is Hillary Clinton and the U.S. government doing with the resurrection chamber, which now suggests technology of the Raphaim giants after the flood, and Nephilim probably before the flood, so whichever it is, Nuffling or Raphaim or another type of giant? And the location of his body. Why would they want his body? Probably for DNA, for DNA, for DNA, manoeuvre.

manipulation, maybe to create new nephalum. And that technology, if it's for a resurrection chamber, as they're quoting in there, which is kind of like the Stargate series of the TV series, where the Gauld had these sarcophagi as a resurrection chambers or their healing chambers. We see that sort of carried through in that entertainment that way. This was thought to be interdimensional technology as well. So angelic technology given to the demigods to help keep them as ruling on the earth. And they also wanted the location for other buried Nephlam, which indicates that they found other bodies of giants.

And you can't make this go away no matter what you do because it's a FOIA request. It's on record. There's information on this and they're being very targeted in that information that they want. So all of a sudden now we have obviously from, I think when we say U.S. government, we're talking U.S. military of whatever department that is looking to say what can we use this for? Now this stuff about Gilgamesh and the FOIA request and Hillary, does this connect to these rumors? And I know you've heard this too. I think it was during Desert Storm when we were invading Iraq. and the rumors of Saddam Hussein's palace and them finding,

was it possibly Gilgamesh's tomb there or some kind of hybrid like that? Yes. The name that is always sort of connected to it is Gilgamesh. What we don't know is because you have like very famous archaeologists and writers and researchers like Smith who conflated Nimrod with. Gilgamesh. So we don't know whether the government makes the same mistake on that name as well. And if you look at architectural reliefs, you see reliefs that are the same relief.

Some people call it Gilgamesh. Some people call it Nimrod. There are three generations apart after the flood. So probably not the same individual. And we have different parents and different set of details with Nimrod, even though Nimrod's in the same area. And Gilgamesh is going to succeed the same dynastic kingship. I look at them as distinct.

They may have looked similar because Nimrod is Kush of the hamites, of the dark-haired hamites of Africa where they were to migrate to, although Nimrod stayed in Sumer. But I think that when we look at who they're calling, we want to be a little bit careful. But Gilgamesh would be more of a prize. Gilgamesh would be the one that would have the angelic DNA. Because we know that Cush was the father of Nimrod from the Bible and other accounts.

And we know that Lugobanda is the father, king of a rook. And a fertility god is Ninn, or Nyn Son, depending on which translation, transliteration and translation using that is the parent. and they're both bulls. I mean, she's a bull god and he becomes a bull, but all the giants and all the gods called themselves bulls for a lot of different allegorical reasons for rituals and things. Just as the term bulls of Bashan biblically comes from that.

So sort of, and then this is a bit of a rabbit hole, but I'll shut it off quickly. So when Jesus is on the cross, he's being mocked by the Bulls of Bashan. These are the demon spirits, and these are the spirits of, the abalem council you mentioned david sling this nephalim hybrid goliath who was you believe 11 plus feet tall oh by the way what did you think of the amazon series it was on amazon the house of david's show

because i was actually shocked that they actually went there and mentioned the nephalim i wish they would have portrayed them more and interlaced it even more into the show but at least It was a win that they were talking about the Nephlein. What did you think of that? Well, it was good. Probably the best portrayal of the David's story and the accuracy of what Goliath likely looked like. And so, and the size of him.

And he was a dark-haired giant. And so there's, you have to remember that the Philistines and the casual heme and the charatheme and the pelotheme that comes with the Philistines to expropriate Gaza and the five cities of the Philistine pentapalies, these are dark-haired giants versus red-haired and blonde-haired ones, which are typically in the south in the covenant land, more dark-haired ones like with the Hittites. And there were depictions because they intermarried with those giants

to create the patriarchalist tribes like the Amarites and the Jebusites and all those ones who don't have a specific patriarch that are listed. They're more depicted with all skin and dark hair giants, more like Gilgamesh, than what the Amalachim and the Anakim, which would have been blonde hair and Horeem with red hair. So Goliath is depicted as that because this is one of the cities of Gaff. And as I recall, the name of Goliath was Ashish. The name is Goliath's father was Ashish, which is a Greek Indo-Aryan name associated with Greek words and Greek names. So all of it starts to make some sense with that sort of depiction.

They also depicted his four brothers, which was good as well. Now, they look at only Goliath as being part of these giants. I haven't seen the second season. I hear it's out in the U.S. and Canada on Amazon. It's not out yet. It's usually a few months delay on that in Canada. So I'll watch that to see because in the wars that David does against the Philistines, he kills the other four brothers.

And there's other giants. And the Philistines were hybrids because they intermarried with these giants. And so they were like the Shazoo, the seven to nine feet giants that the Egyptians described that lived them. amongst the Anakim and other giants that were in the covenant land. And so they haven't shown the full hand of the giants, but at least they're recognizing it. And they're depicting a size that is getting closer to the actual size of the giant.

And I was trying to remember, because we didn't see him a lot or the brothers with a lot, but they were about twice as tall and about at least 50% wider so that two to one height the width ratio so they're pretty close on that as well yeah and i forgot that was one of the other um pieces of the mainstream puzzle you know i mentioned tucker carlson but again when you have a major show on um amazon called the house of david which is featuring the nephalim i mean this would have never happened 20 years ago probably not even 10 years ago but it's like uh we've made a turnaround here where even in this big budget production, they're talking about

Nephilim giants and portraying them to be at least 11 feet tall. So that was cool. But back to Galgotha, David, kills Goliath, cuts off his head. And the Bible says he drags it all the way to Jerusalem from where that battle was. Yeah. To the hill in front of Jerusalem, yes. It's crazy because having been to Israel to Galgotha, otherwise known as the place of the skull.

It's fascinating how you approach this rock. It's a natural rock outcropping, but it's literally been carved. It's been artificially shaped to look like an evil skull. It's obvious to see. I mean, if you're watching on the screen, you're going to see a picture of it now. So that's the other 3D meaning of Galgotha, right? The place of the skull is not just that it looks like a skull, but that the seed of the serpent, visualized by Goliath skull was buried under it, right?

Yes. And it would have been an elongated skull as well, and a sutureless skull as the giants were, but they possessed us why they wore these great helmets. Now, this is over a thousand years after the flood. So with a post-Diluvian giants, they have a fertility issue that in book two, I think I make a very good case,

and I start on the case in book one, that they have a, after the flood, they have a fertility issue or before the flood they did not, and that fertility issue shows up in the inability to produce enough women. So now they have to intermarry less they go extinct. So as you get more dilution, you lose less of your giant features and gifts from the gods. So size and looks of the DNA.

So where most of the giants would have had from the seraphim more of a serpentine look, and where from a troubum with dark-haired ones seem to be more from the face of a human on that, as we see with Anunaki with those dark beards and dark hair with wings. They can also be a face of an eagle or a bird, as we also see on the glyphs or a lion or a bull. But when they take a physical form, they take one form and they would pass that look onto them, which now starts to tell us that the red hair and the blonde-haired ones comes from the seraphome, but they've lost their serpentine look. But you can look at archaeological statues and reliefs of Akhenaten,

who still has that serpentine look and that elongated skull that we're talking about. So that would be the best one to sort of interconnect that in as people try to get that visual. So, yeah, we have this preternatural story that's affecting ancient before the flood history and then after the flood and then all the way down. And that it shows up throughout the Bible and it shows up throughout other cultures all around the world. So it's kind of important to look at the details that they're starting to show us, but understand that they're not going to show us the complete story. So much to unpack here. And I should tell everybody, if you're kind of new to this whole subject of the Nephilim and the Giants,

go back and listen to my last interview with Gary. And we do a lot more of a kind of a detailed history of the origins of the watchers of what the Bible talks about in Genesis 6-4 of the Nephilim being birthed basically from fallen angels breeding with earth women. Their offspring were these Nephilim. So if you want to kind of a deep dive on the historical narrative that we're not necessarily going to all unpack in this episode, go back and listen to that because we really get into the pre-flood, post-flood giants and kind of everything the Bible says.

This one we're jumping all over. So let's talk more about the end. Go ahead. Let's just finish with David. I'll give people a tidbit to see whether or not this House of David series will get there because David is going to conquer all the nations around them, including the Philistines. But other nations as well, and he's going to conquer the Syrians and the people of Edom, and they're the same peoples.

They're the same different two parts to their empire, one in Syria, one. in the Mount Sear region. But in the north, as David is conquering the Syrians, there is a king of Gesher named Telmi. Now, if that name Telmi rings a bell, that's one of the three kings of the Anachim in the time of Joshua 400 years before, who are the kings of Hebron or Curiaf, Arbuk,

the city of Arba. Arba is the patriarch for the Anachim Giants, as the book of Joshua tells us. So he's named after Talmai, or it is the same one, I think named after, and it was common to have like Talmai show up in Egyptian name as names as kings of the Anakim and also elsewhere. So Talmai is the king and has a daughter named Makkah. Maka is also a matronymic name passed on and a patriarchal name. So the country next to Gesher in the Bashan Mount Hermon region is Maka, and the Maka theme giants live there.

These are the Geshireem giants in Mount Hermit. And so David makes a treaty with King Talmi. And as part of the treaty, he takes Maka as the daughter. They produce, in that marriage, Absalom, who is the fairest of them all, and the favorite of David, but he gets into trouble. with Israelite law and flees to Gesher, his grandfather, for protection. And then Tal-Mai turns him against Israel, sends them back to Hebron, Kiryath-Arba, probably a connection from his name and a bloodline of kings and a connection still there

to launch his civil war against David. So you have a hybrid human and Raphaim giant that David fosters with a pure blood, female giant, that they used to start dynasties after the flood with pure bloods. Like you have Timna, a pure blood, Horim, marrying Elifaz son of Esau, to create the Amalekite hybrid nation versus the Amalekine giants that show up several hundred years before in Genesis 14, just named after Amalak, the giant.

And they move into the Petro region to live with the Amalekin giants. And also Esau marries Aholi Bama, Ahorim pure blood as well, if the Dukes of Cyr of the Alepheme, and starts another hybrid race of Horites versus Horim, which are the pure blood giants. So this is not unknown in the Bible,

and it's a common understanding in occult and royal history of you pick specific pure blood fairy queens in the matriarchal allegory versus the dragon for the matriarcher bloodlines to start a new kingdom. So you have a hybrid giant race. being formed here, who starts a civil war against David to overthrow David, and in Old Testament law, an ancient law, he would now take over the kingdom and the kingdom of, that has the Magianic promise and the inheritance and the blessings

that were originally given to, or supposed to go to Esau, but Jacob stole them. And so you see that transjointed, generational politics and control over the bloodline to get a hybrid dragon Messiah in place for the polytheists in terms of how they see the end time playing out. We've got to go back to talking about how these, you say, these Nephalim could regenerate and heal themselves. Now, having been to Egypt multiple times and seeing, you know, the dependence.

pictures of Akh Gnotton, like you mentioned. He was this strange, mysterious pharaoh who had serpentine features. You see the busts of his daughters in the museums, and they all have huge elongated skulls, which looks very much like the parochus skulls in Peru, meaning they were natural elongated schools. They weren't shaped with a headboard. These were like genetic hybrids.

But when you go to all of these ancient temples in Egypt, namely one like the Valley Temple in Giza there by the Sphinx, this thing is so massive megalific. But what you learn about these temples is that they were all for fertility or for healing. They were healing temples. It's like the ancients, the pre-Diluvian ancient Egyptians, the old, old original ones, who I believe built the pyramids. who made the megalithic temples, who made the precision, you know, 1,000 ton statues, they could heal themselves, but they basically had technology, it seems like, to use these temples to regenerate themselves, where they would come in at one end, they would pass through it, like you're saying.

It's almost like an ancient hyperbolic chamber. So talk a little bit more about these chambers. And you mentioned how you think the Nephleim had elongated schools. I want to hear more about that. And then do you think they talked at crazy, strange frequencies with the elongated skulls? Yeah, all good stuff for sure. So that's just cover off the elongated skulls first. So as I think you're referencing is humans can create a elongated skull by binding or whatever pressures you're putting on with very young children to do so.

but there's two things you can't do when you do that. One is you can't remove the sutures. And the second thing you can't do is increase the volume. You can make it longer, but you don't increase the cranial volume. And these skulls are suturless and are gigantic and are inexplicable and cannot be done. But so what's being done by the humans is they are trying to emulate their demigods. They're trying to be like them. And so when we look at now the religious sort of aspect of the giants,

they are the ancient giant religion of Zoroastrianism, and both before and after the flood. And this was a knowledge religion, developing of the knowledge not only of the seven sciences, as we understand as the liberal arts today, but the angelic knowledge also provided by angels or from a polytheist version, the gods. And we get this heritage that comes down in all cultures all around the world.

Biblically, we have something like the Book of Enoch that talks about this knowledge provided by Azazel and the Watchers. But in all cultures around the world, they didn't build a lot of these cities. The gods did. The civilization knowledge came from the gods, the writing came from the gods, the technology came from the gods, and particularly given to their divine offspring as divine representatives of the earth, the royals, which is why the royals have a genealogy to prove who they are and their divine right to rule over the lower level humans.

So this knowledge is part of the religion, it's part of our history. and it's what they're trying to redevelop. So it would be like the golden age before the flood and shortly again after the flood. With that in mind, the religious aspect of Egypt, you have Heliopolis where the Therapeutate was. Well, if that word Therapeutate sounds familiar within medicine today, it's called Therapeutics.

And it doesn't necessarily, therapeutics doesn't necessarily cure, the disease it treats the disease so what we're seeing is is that they can't stop a royale from dying they can't stop them from they can heal wounds but they can't cure the overall nature of who they are after the restrictions were put on in genesis 6 3 and so therapeutate is this metham science and technology coming together in that religion that they were known for, just as the Aseans were part of the Therapeutate. And from the religion of Heliopolis that they say Moses brought with him.

And so this is the technology that we're seeing starting to merge now into digital technology and into quantum technology, that they're going to be able to do things not just at the DNA level, but below, and do things interdimensionally because it's interdimensional technology as well. And so I think that's what's being tapped into here when we talk about their healing chambers.

It's a process. They're being therapeutically treated in a way that we can't fully understand, yet because we haven't developed that yet, but yet we see digital medical beds being developed. That's a primitive step in that direction, so to speak. But we've kept these names and things alive throughout our history because nothing is new under the sun.

What was will be a gain, and the understanding of this is only going to bring grief and sorrow. That comes actually out of the Bible. So we should expect this, what happened in the Bible, past both before the flood and after the flood again to happen in the end time. So all of this is just giving us a glimpse into what the Royals had at their fingertips at one time to control the earth, a technology that is beyond what we have today and we're just catching up to.

From a couple of years ago, I was in Egypt, and one of the gals on our trip, our tour was a holistic doctor from Austin, Texas. And she deals with, you know, emerging technologies to holistically heal the body, red light therapy. She's into car practice and all that. The point is she's really tuned in to energy and holistic ways of healing the body. So when she went on our tour with us and learned how the ancients had mastered this in Egypt with their temples, using geology.

you know, mixing limestone with rose granite, which is laced with quartz and the effect that has. I'm not a big feeler, but even in the so-called king's chamber of the Great Pyramid, last time I was there, I took my shoes off for the first time. This is a rose granite chamber. And I laid down with my feet on the floor, and it was the strongest energy sensation I've ever felt. and you could feel it like a way of pulsating over you. It kind of felt like if you've ever had laughing gas at the dentist when you're just super chill and you can just feel like,

ooh, it just kind of comes over you. That's what it felt like. The point is even though these ancient superstructures have basically turned off, there's still energy that leaks out of them, and you can feel it from time to time. So she felt that, and she felt it at Isis Temple, so strong she had to run out of the temple because her body could not handle the energy. The point is she said herself, a holistic doctor who's a leading person in this field

that we're just barely scratching the surface of what they mastered. That, to me, was really telling. Yeah. And again, we get this told to us in the history, but we're dumbed down not to understand. understand what is being told to us. And so when we look at these ancient religious sites, both before and after the flood, they tend to be rebuilt on the same sites.

And that these were holy sites that would have, in the ancient tradition, whether it's lay lines or other energy lines of some sort, they had the ability to transmit power of the earth, whatever that is. That could be in sound. It could be in just, surely energy, but it's able to tap into those things.

And when Nimrod, and I'm going to come back to that in just a second, and when Nimrod builds Babel City and Babel Tower, and anything that they can do will not be prevented them from doing, there's this knowledge that is being hinted at. And certainly Noah and the eight on the ark would not want to recreate what was before the flood. So where do the knowledge come for Babel sitting, and Babel Tower.

While the Gnostics in secret societies believe that's the ancient antediluvian knowledge that is found underneath the Great Pyramid where it was buried, and Hermes had the directions to find this knowledge, takes it back to Nimrod, who helps them build Babel City and Babel Tower, where now they're going to build this tower that's going to be able to go into heaven and then let Nimrod slay God if God gets out of line again. Well, that's interdimensional. You can't build mud bricks to go out of the atmosphere, let alone into another dimension.

I mean, it's absolutely ludicrous. He'd be a complete madman. And he may have been, but I don't believe that that's what's going on here. So the Akkadian version says when it uses, doesn't say Babelu, and ILU is a transliteration from EL for an angel or a God in the Bible. And they don't translate confusion of languages. They translate BAB as a gateway or a portal of the gods. So some sort of technology was there,

which now would explain that he could get interdimensionally into heaven, where God lives, or interdimensionally into where he's from Nibru Kyi into Niburu and the crossing inner earth in the same location where the pit prison would be and the gods would rule from to free the prisoners, the gods of his pantheon.

So now we see sort of a technology here that's been passed on that is something we still don't have today or just developing through CERN and other sort of projects to be able to do interdimensional things through quantum mechanics and AI that they're using in other technologies. And now when we look at overall technology, biblically we get in the time of Joshua and the time of Jericho where they're using trumpets

in terms of vibration and sound waves to bring down Jericho. And music has a vibration. and the chance done in polytheism has a vibration. And the language that we don't have been told not to associate with the giants, Indo-Aryan or Indo-European, Pi proto-Indo-European is they take so much etymology of our languages back to, the giants use this language and several different varieties of the same language, but it's in all the early cultures after the flood.

And that the giants were said to murmur. But in a murmur in a way with a voice that had a depth to it, with a sound wave and a depth to it, and associated with what might be going back into the skull, with that size of skull to maybe magnify that voice. I'm just sort of speculating how that would sort of happen. plus their size, all of a sudden now you have this understanding of this technology of sound, this jibberish, which comes right after the word giant in the dictionary,

which I don't believe is coincidence, and that demons and the giants were said to talk in gibberish, a language they didn't understand, people didn't understand. And even to this day, they'll use that gibberish in the language when they're trying to depossess a demon, that demon who was speaking in those kinds of languages, that it was done in a chant or a whisper, just as whispering is associated with several of the tribes of giants. And these great temples and acoustical places that could just capture the sound and you wouldn't need microphones or anything. and at different tones, it's going to start to interconnect with energy to create sound waves to do whatever sound waves can do. And I'm not a scientist, so I don't know the extension of what that technology could be, but that's a whole level of technology. And also located at the same place where you have these pyramids and holy sites that were thought to be energy,

plants that, you know, facilities that could do things that were just trying to imagine what they could do. But healing would be one of them, but it could probably do a lot more than that. Probably create interdimensional travel, probably do a whole bunch of different things that we just haven't got, or at least I don't have the ability to say how you get from that to whatever else they might be able to do. but anything a God could do would be sort of that outer parameter, a God as in a fallen angel. Man, so much there. What you just said reminded me of what Graham Hancock recently stated. He was doing an interview with someone and they were asking him, you know,

what was the purpose of the pyramids? And, you know, many in my field would say, you know, it was some kind of ancient energy generator. And I believe that was likely one of its many functions, but it might have had multiple functions. And Graham Hancock was hypothesizing that, you know, when you look into the ancient Egyptian texts, so much of their, they're talking about the afterlife in the spiritual journey after death. And everything was preparing for this death journey to the afterlife. But one theory he has is that the great people,

pyramid was basically like a trial run where these ancient initiates were doing a practice run through the pyramids getting ready for their afterlife journey. I found that fascinating. Having been in the Great Pyramid many times, you go in there and no way does it feel like this was made for humans. it feels like a machine. The passageways that go down 300 feet down to the subterranean chamber, they're not high enough to stand upright.

So you're crouched over. And it's very challenging to go up and down, just holding onto the wooden modern day railings and stairs they've put in. So how would the ancients have been doing a big funeral procession through it on these slick megalithic granite? passageways, they'd slide right down like a slip and slide, especially if they had a big sarcophagus. But I found that theory fascinating because I believe even the dynastic pharaohs,

they believed this was their ticket to the afterlife. They thought being buried in a pyramid would be like a stargate where they would travel to other dimensions. Somehow, some way, yes. And the imagery you get out of a pyramid. Egyptian religion is these magical boats that are kind of like on a river, but not really a river. And some people will project that into outer space, but could be interdimensional as well, that they would go on these boats to the other world.

The Greeks have a similar allegory. I think what the river sticks, as I recall coming out of Greek. And the Eucharitic text is a little bit more specific on this. with the Raphaim kings. And this is after the flood, let alone what was going on before the flood under L. Bail's father and the Nephilim giants.

But in the Eucharitic texts, they had the ability to go back and forward between Earth and Hades and Shaill. And that typically when they were able to do that, it was mostly, but not necessarily always,

particularly when people are searching for lost ones like gods and things. But with the Raphaim specifically as the offspring of the Balim, they would take in a parade their fallen or died Raphaim together and take them into the other world. You have to have the technology to be able to do that like a portal. And so again, now you have not a boat, but you have the same procession, the same type of parade, just as you see what they're doing with the boat in Egyptian religions. And in the Norse religion, they put them away on a boat, on a funeral ritual that later ended up in burning.

And it's like they're trying to get that into a state to go into perhaps another demonstration. mentioned by doing so or releasing the spirit to do that. And the Egyptians also had mummification for the pharaohs, probably not the last forever, but maybe to, once they went to the other world, they could heal that body or reuse that body for their spirit and become immortal in the other world. And they had their possessions put in there because they would need it.

And it was a standard understanding in all Paul Atheist, call it religions to put, particularly with the royals, the chiefdoms and the leaders and the noble ones, the Aryans, as Aryan is defined, their prized possessions for the other world, because somehow, some way they expected to be able to use that. They may not have known how as it went further downstream into history and that lost the how to get there in terms of the technology, but that has. has been kept alive throughout the generations and exist to this day. And now we're trying to go interdimensional with locations like CERN,

which are not named after an acronym of technology as people think. It actually goes back to proto-Indo-European, C-E-R-N, pronounced CERN or CERN, which means a two-horn god. And so when you look at Odin, he's a two-horn god. He's kind of, the Norse Pantheon is missing a few pieces from the oral tradition that comes down. But he's understood his father as well as his father Mitra out of the Zoroastrian rituals as in Bafelmat, father Mitra, as you take that back to the proto-Indo-European again. And you have Cernunos as is out of place God in the Celtic pantheon,

not the chief god, but there like Hearn is, they're there. They're very important, but they're not totally accounted for. And they're a nature god like a pan god, a goat god in the Greek mythology, which is there very, very important, but not Zeus or not chronos. but yet reflecting something important in that. And Azazel is a goat god who is the leader of the watchers, as he was degraded from seraphim to Seder status. And so we have all of these different names of these types of two-horn gods.

And in the Etruscan pantheon, which is proto-Latin, so like the Scythians, proto-Greek and the giants, these are the Indo-Arians that the people of Babel migrated to go live amongst. CERN is again named CERN, C-E-R-N. And we get the word Karen in Hebrew that shows up, meaning horn, which is the K-Sound that you can also transliterate C-E-R-N and is done so in many languages as it comes down. Again, you get these connections that you just cannot

sort of just dismiss that are all seemingly related to the same set, to the same religions that's in every, culture around the world. Since we're talking, getting into technology and you're bringing up CERN, let's go there for a little bit. I know this is something you've talked and written a lot about. For people who might not know, give us kind of just a quick overview of what CERN is, what this technological device is, what they're trying to do with it.

Let's just go a little bit deeper on this because this is fascinating. Yeah. So, and understand that science names everything after the gods of polytheism. They're honoring their gods and everything that they do. So don't think that science is totally objective. It has a religious polytheist direction to it that controls it. And that goes right back to the beginning of mysticism that comes out of the seven sciences that the secret societies like to talk about

in the same sciences we have today that also merged with the gods both before the flood and seemingly early after the flood. So CERN is part of this technology. Part of this knowledge that they're trying to recreate that was before and just after the flood. And CERN is

as way too many occult things associated with it, like the dance of Shiva, which is the counterpart to Mitra. And the Sanskrit version versus the Avastin version out of Persia, same Zoroastrian religion from the same Indo-Arians. One goes to the Indus Valley. One goes into Persia.

That produces, you know, the Akamai at Kings, for example, that takes the roots back to Greece. But I just wanted to give people an understanding, that we need to look at the imagery that they present with, they present to us. And Gary, real quick, CERN is, they call it the hydrogen collider, right? And it's in which country? It's in Switzerland in St. Genie, just outside of Geneva.

And it's the largest machine of its type, and it's literally looking into space trying to do what they say. And what do you think it's really doing? Well, they're looking for the secrets of the universe and the big bang, but I think what they're looking for is, comes from the understanding of the technology that they're using, where they brought in AI to intermerge with quantum computing, which is interdimensional.

Trouble is with quantum is it's more single shot to use a bad analogy, and the AI is more like a shotgun. So you can search multiple universes when you combine it, or multiple locations within a specific dimension or universe. So it's designed to go interdimensional. And they're searching for particles. And we get a hint of that, but we don't get told exactly which particle that they're really after, but we'll get to that.

And with quantum mechanics, and as that developed into quantum computing, the early founders of quantum math, quantum mechanics, said you had to learn and understand what was in the up and chads and the Vedas to be able to do this type of science. And otherwise you couldn't grasp it. And you're trying to do something in a level of science so small,

you can't really measure, you can't touch anything, you can't see anything. You can measure some particles. But what they're looking for is not what they can measure, they're looking for what they can't measure. So it's a very mysterious particle that they're looking for, and they call it the Atma, A-T-M-A-R-A-R-T-M-M-A-R-M-P-Man particle, and that name comes out of the Uppin-Shads.

And this is an invisible particle, so to speak, something you can't measure, that merges with a particle that you can measure. and it is the source of all knowledge that is transmitted instantaneously in all dimensions everywhere through quantum entanglement. This is the source of all knowledge. That's what they would like to tap into. But also in another dimension, they're probably looking to find Mitra, the god, that's either in Argus. or Shambhala or one suitoris and one is Mitra. Now this is not the god.

These are individuals named differently. And Mitra is the etymological root for the Gnostic Eastern allegory of the new Buddha or Dragon Messiah Antichrist as we would understand from the Bible of Mitra, Lord Metreya. The root is from Metrea. and Mitreya and Shiva are the destroyer gods, just as Azazel is the destroyer god of the antediluvian epoch that supplied all knowledge, including all the arts of war

and martial arts and technology and everything that would be associated, who's the leader of the watcher in the pit prison, who's called the destroyer god Abadden Apollyon, just as Shiva is the destroyer god, just as Mithra is a destroyer god, who both Mitra and Shiva, one Avestan, one Sanskrit,

return at the end of an age to incarnate into a Messiah-like figure and understand Shiva had like a dozen incarnations, which is sharing a body with another spirit to provide additional power, when the earth is being destroyed by fire, both Mithra and Shiva destroy the world by fire, in the age of Lord Metrea

and that after that destruction, then those gods will renew the earth, but only with their offspring and those immortal spirits that no longer have bodies, they'll supply new bodies for. So when you see the term, the understanding and the religious aspect of it

as the phoenix rising out of the ashes, that's why the royals aren't afraid of destroying this world by fire in the end time, because they believe they'll receive a new body in the new creation of their destroyer god, which is also a creator god in their belief system. So they're looking for that Atma particle to supply unlimited knowledge to be the second piece to Godhood.

One is unlimited knowledge. The other one is immortality. And that science will give them the immortality like in these resurrection chambers, clone bodies or a series of things that will provide that in the physical world. And they're looking to get into the pit prison to let out those gods, kind of like Nimrod was going to do. And Nimrod in the book of Yashir and Josephus and other accounts is wanting to go into heaven to slay God.

But that's reserved for the end-time Antichrist, Lord Metrea. And in Daniel 7 and 8, we get accounts of this antichrist figure, and he will in 8-10, he will go into heaven. in the end time and throw down some of the starry host, just as we have a war in heaven in Revelation 12. So that's one of the reasons why Nimrod was prevented from completing the project because that's reserved for the end time Antichrist to do that. So you have this angelic technology going on at CERN

to rapidly advance and introduce that new knowledge to this world and to bring back the days of Noah when those watchers walked amongst us both before and after the flood and giants walked amongst us both before and after the flood and remember that I said in Ezekiel 32 with the terrible ones, the worst of those ones were locked into the sides of the pit prison.

And of course, they're going to need a dwelling place for those spirits for the demons. Angels can produce their own physical bodies. And so they're going to need to, sleeves. They're going to need dwelling places. An Oiketarian, as we know that in the Greek out of the New Testament for the spirit, which is the soul

and the body. So they're going to have to create those somehow, some way for those giants coming out. Do you think that at some point, as some theorized, they'll be able to bring something through the CERN technology here? Yeah, I do.

And it's, again, if we look at some of the terminology that's used with the combination of AI and quantum computing, and AI, as Musk says, it is summoning the demon, and Rensky has applied demonology, and the invisible algorithms that control the AI objective are called daemon's, the root word for demon, for disembodied spirit of the giant there is something that's going on here as well and so whether or not they're trying to create a portal for a spirit to go through or something more we don't know but i kind of speculate that this technology might have the ability to go back and forth between dimensions and

something called what i would call a quantum bubble for a lack of a scientific term and we get these these orbs that are depicted on reliefs in ancient archaeology where you have these heads and beings in these orbs. And they're in the air, they're coming from places, going to places, and we're not sort of explained what those are. But they could be a quantum bubble. And we see that sort of being told to us, and now what they call a warp bubble,

that is generally sort of been, allegorized to go intergalactic, as in the alien mythos, but most of the alien mythos is more centered on interdimensional than intergalactic. So it seems would be more related to interdimensional than being a warp bubble like in Star Trek where they have warp speed and you're trying to now to create something that's going to take you into other galaxies faster. So I would look for that type of technology. And it's also interesting that a lot of the traditions around the world

will say that those are gods that are in those bubbles. Maybe, maybe not. I think they might be demigods because they were worshipped as gods as well. I've been looking into some of these mysterious paintings from medieval art that seem to dig. I mean, you've got paintings from the 1,400, 1400s, and hidden in the corners are not just objects full-on flying craft with what looks like humans or humanoids in them. What are your thoughts on that?

Yeah, I think we have to look at the arts coming from the nobility, the Aryans, the Indo-Arians. This is their history. They lost the technology along the way to do this, but they have the memory, and they control all of the arts. they're going to show that in their literature, in their paintings, in their sculpture, everything they name after, their buildings. They are going to show that. And again, it's kind of, I think,

as an honoring of the gods, but also to keep that history alive and in plain sight. And nobody can ever say throughout the history that this hasn't been presented to us because they'll actually show. We showed you all the way through when they're trying to control whatever the narrative will be in explaining all of this as we get closer to the end time. So none of the artists, none of the writers, none of the priests, none of the rulers, none of the generals, none of the oligarchs were third and fourth class humans.

They were the nobility. They were the elites, the Aleem. And what they do is they keep their history out there, but only as understood by the adepts, whether it's in allegories or in taciturn imagery. So we have this tradition where you go into an art museum to try and understand what the painter is trying to say in it, Not necessarily what the picture is, but what is the message.

That's the language that they're talking in. So they will use that to put important things into their paintings, like these orbs, that adepts and people of high-level polytheism will understand, just as you will look at something like Da Vinci and The Last Supper, where you have a whole bunch of things going on, but we're all focus on is the triptych architecture in the background with the three windows that have a different scene in each window. And triptych is the classic architecture to honor the gods where they had portals,

and these would be understood and are understood in polytheism as portals. And that's why you have different scenes in each of those ones. And so they're putting their message in there. Just as you have a whole bunch of other things, I won't go into the whole Da Vinci thing because, and he was an absolute master of whatever thing he did. There's just too many to cover up. But just to give a sort of connection.

So when we see these things, we should expect to see anomalies like that, not meant for us to understand, but only for the elite to understand. I've done a couple of interviews with a guy named Robert Edward Grant. who's he's many things. He's a historian of Da Vinci. And he and many others would tell you that Da Vinci made a secret trip to Egypt

because he basically disappears from public view for a couple years. And many believe he went down to Egypt to learn from the great astronomers of the day. and knowledge keepers. And he basically went into the Great Pyramid and lived in there for like a month. He comes back to Europe after that. And this is when he makes all his masterpieces, which one of the common threads,

according to Robert Edward Grant and others, is that he hid clues, this is the real Da Vinci Code, of the great pyramids and their secrets encoded in his paintings. And then one of them would be, you know, the most obvious. If you overlay the so-called King's Chamber, again, that's the mainstream name for the chamber inside the Great Pyramid, although no King was ever found. It was, I don't believe, a tomb at all.

It was originally something like we're talking about. It was a technological room with this precision box. It was probably a casing for some energy device. Anyway, this king's chamber dimensions are the exact same as the room they're in in the Last Supper painting. It's like, it's like Da Vinci went and measured that room off. And this is the room that the painting is that the men are in. It's crazy when you actually overlay it with that room. Yeah, the skill and the knowledge and the mastery of their history.

that he displays is genius, I mean, diabolical from a monotheist perspective, but genius nonetheless. And as what a lot of the writers do, they are that good at it. And it was common, particularly in the early sort of rise of the Rosicrucian, which, as you see, a spreading of the secret societies out of the invisible 33, up to the 13 and below to the 300 families,

and then to the Rosicrucians in the Phthalmic tree of the hierarchy trunk organizations, which is above Luminati and Freemasonry. You have a tradition in that time of establishing the junior orders of the families, which is now going to become the Rosicrucians, that these major Rosicrucian grandmasters did pilgrimies, did pilgrimages throughout the Middle East into specific sites before going on to do what they were going to do

and become famous for. So that is not unusual. And he's also a grandmaster of the Prairie of Sion as part of that transferring down from like the Royals, like the Sinclair's, for example, after the separation in the cutting, of elms in geyser's castle in 1188 after the fall of of jerusalem and the priory of sion people will say isn't a real order except that in book two i show you the history it's in many locations when they were

started and william matured called them the um the barons which were the original priori of sion and you get the official separation of the barons which are the royals uh with the grandmaster order of the templars in 1118 with Hugh de Payon and the crowning of Baldwin II, which is enjou, just as Payon is an Anjou from the Lorraine region, as well as the Bouillon was. And so the rock of Scion, where the kings were, of the kings of Jerusalem were crowned, was in Mount Zion. And then six months later, just as you have, a similar thing that happened with King Charles, where Queen Elizabeth died in the fall and in about June,

he has the formal in this great cathedral. There was the Notre Dame Cathedral in Bethlehem, where the second ceremony was located. But this is the Priory of Zion, or Zion, not shouldn't be an S, but that's the French transliteration of Zion. But it actually goes back to more ancient. And what they're talking about is Mount Hermann, because it was named Mount Schneer,

Syrian and Zion in the Bible as other names. And Zion is the same Hebrew word as Zion. It's known in the Eucharitic text as Mount Saffon, and biblically Mount Hermon is called the Mountain of the North, Saffon. And remember what I said earlier, Hebrew is essentially the same Semitic language as the original Semitic used in the Eucharitic text.

So Mount Saffon is Mountain of the North. in original Semitic for the Eugritic text, and Saffon is north in Hebrew as well, so a mountain of the north. So this is an organization of Royals that has come downstream, holding this ancient knowledge that the Templars were excavating for

underneath the temple and other things as well, that was brought back to Europe, sort of in the same sort of tradition as what these Rosicrucians do, and in this case, they started to build a great cathedral. with technology that is unexplained. And in their accounts,

that's the knowledge that they found under the temple that was used to build the temples that came from the king of tier in the Bible, who had the knowledge of the Dionysian builders, which was the ancient building technology early after the flood, that built all the great temples. and all the great palaces, and is the antediluvian building knowledge

that was before the flood. That comes down through the Dionysian builders, down through Pythagoras mystery schools and various branches, as it ends up with the Collegiate of Rome, but in a very squat form that is reignited with the Templars coming back with the Gothic architecture and the flying buttresses and,

great windows and everything else that goes with it. And of course, they decorate it with all sorts of gargoyles and occult imagery. And I was in England on this megalithic tour to see Stonehenge. And so that's what I'm focused on. But we were staying near this town of Salisbury in England. The spire on that's the biggest one in England, I believe. And going into it and up to it, I was so overwhelmed by the scale, just as a critically thinking person, I'm going,

this was built with some kind of secret knowledge. Yeah, I mean, they couldn't put that size and wait in until the Templars bring this knowledge back. Like, it's a revolution. And it's not that they had technology to do these types of buildings quickly. It would take 100 years and more in some of these, cathedrals and monasteries to build them.

I mean, they would bankrupt realms as they're building in them. They were so expensive. And so it is, and it's not something you see us do today. And I don't know why it stopped. Maybe it just became too expensive or whatever the reason was is that,

but this does start to make some sense that if you now link that, that to build these spectacular things, they don't have to be molded into Christianity to do that. And they were through the collegia and the monastic orders, like the Manichaeans, they all mold into that to not be persecuted and to hide. And they controlled the building.

And the churches, the Roman church needed builders for their churches. And so you would have the Romanesque style before that. Then you would have something that, was a little bit more advanced, but nothing close to this. And then the Templars took over those Mason guilds at the same time they came back with this technology and took complete control over it from another Gnostic group because they were doing all of the building before that. So we should not be surprised then that they built all of these monasteries and great cathedrals

with Gothic architecture on ancient polytheist sites. And that's what I love about your books, Gary, is how you follow the timeline of prehistory and the megaliths, the watchers, the Nephilim, the sacred knowledge, and how it doesn't just stop, you know, thousands of years ago, but it was carried down through bloodlines. The knowledge was passed down from megaliths, even to cathedrals in England.

And it's so fascinating, like when you go into that Salisbury Cathedral that I showed you, the resonance inside is mind-blowing. Yeah. The acoustics and all of them, they do not need microphones in that type of architecture. Right. And it's like the great outdoor theaters that was built before using that ancient technology. not all of it, but what they still had in their possession. So it's amazing what they were able to do. And you roll that forward, you know, into our era.

We're recognizing acoustics, but we don't build anything to that level yet, where you don't need amplifiers and speakers and stuff like that. It's absolutely astonishing and not explainable through any through normal understanding as what we've been taught of how that happens as late as the Middle Ages with the Gothic cathedrals, let alone all the other things around the world. Well, Gary, this time is flown by. We're pretty much out of time. I want to honor your time.

Hey, to everybody watching this, I'm going to have Gary back in May for a part two of this. Well, we'll dive even deeper into Nephilim bloodlines. And I want to ask him even more about the Samarian versions of the Nefalian versions of the Nephilim and the Ananaki, and we're going to talk about so much. It's going to be amazing. But, Gary, what's the latest ways people can follow you, keep up to date with your research, buy your books, hit us with that. Yeah, so the best way to get a hold of me or to buy my books or to support me is to go to my website. And on the website, there's a contact the author icon, so that's how you get a hold of me. If you want to know a little bit more about me or my books,

I have a generous excerpt of all 98 chapters of book one, all 84 chapters of book two, and I have a little write-up on the novel coming out about the end time. And it's all based on my research and eschatology. So the locations, the organizations, there's a couple fake organizations that we did because it's a fiction as well just to make it work. But we have a lot of real organizations like the Rosicrucians and others in there. and their bloodlines, all the characters are based on that type of research, and how prehistory is going to affect end-time prophecy,

and how AI is going to help influence, or not help, but will influence end-time prophecy. And the word of primo, and the book title is a primo conspiracy, means to oppress, to overrun words like that, words that are used like for the end time seventh empire that's in the book of Daniel. And the Apremal wall is the AI technology that we've captured to go into the book. And the subtitle is called AI's Covenant with Babylon. So it takes us through to about the third seal.

And there'll be another sequel that's been worked on right there. There might be two or three more books to come in that sequel because of all the information. but to give people an idea about why we should look into prehistory to understand where we are today and what's coming. And to help better understand how the geopolitics of the world works as well, which we'll talk about a lot more in the next show. And if you wanted to support me, go to the buy now page. And on the buy now page, there's five pages I have up there now.

By page one is for book one. By page two is for book two. By page three is for the Oprimo Conspirators. that releases April 1st. And by page 4 is bundling for books 1 and 2. If you want to buy one of each and get a discount, that's where you go to get the bundling. And if you want discounts and to bundle all three books,

you go to buy page 5. On the buy page, you'll have connections directly over to Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Barnes &oble.com for the books. Also, you'll have an icon there to connect directly over to get the digital version of the book. the books and also an icon for the audible versions on Amazon as well. So that's the easiest, fastest way to go. I understand Barnes & Noble placed an order for their bookstores for April 1st for the Primo conspiracy. So it will be on shelves. And I don't know how many stores of Barnes

and Noble, but it'll be on a lot of the shelves as well. Or you can get a signed copy for me. So lots of ways to get it, but that's the easiest, fastest way to get a hold of my work. So go to Genesis6 conspiracy.com to learn more about Gary to buy his books. And let me tell you, you are going to get your money's worth because his books are huge. They're giant books. You're going to have so much information. And I've bought his first two books. And I'm looking forward to this fictional book coming out.

That sounds really exciting. So also, again, follow him in the Facebook group, Gary Wayne and the Jen. Dennis is Six Conspiracy.com. Is there any other social media way that you want people to follow you, Gary? I am on X as well. I have all the other ones, but I just don't have time to manage. Yeah. Because there's so much contact coming in, I just have to sort of funnel it down.

You're too busy writing to mess with social media. Yes, I need more time for writing, but I still need to do the interaction because that's who I'm doing. it for. And people can also just go right to Amazon as well and type in Genesis 6 conspiracy and your books will pop up right? Yep. Yep. Sweet. So a lot of people just like to buy on Amazon. So yes, just do that. I'll also have, I will also have his books linked in the show notes of this episode. So all you got to do is scroll down and click, get Gary's books and I'll have them right there for you. Gary, thank you so much for your time. This was incredible. And I cannot. not wait to talk to you again in May.

Well, thank you for inviting me. I know it's amazing how our work syncs together on a lot of different things. So I look forward to doing another show and I can't wait for it.