Megalithic Marvels - Nephilim, Stargates & UFOs with the Blurry Creatures Bros (part 2)

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

In part 2 of my exclusive interview with Nate Henry and Luke Rogers -hosts of the Blurry Creatures podcast, I start out asking them to share their opinions on what the ancient golden-age world might have looked like. From the Nephilim to lost ancient technology, this is a mind-bending topic. Next, we get into an interesting discussion regarding the possibility of ancient stargates. We conclude the interview talking about the recent string of UFO news and disclosure that has hit the airwaves. Nate and Luke both give their take on what they think is going on. Buckle your seat-belts and prepare to journey into the Blurryverse on this episode. SHOW NOTES Follow & subscribe to ⁠blurrycreatures.com⁠ Join us for our 2024 Egypt or Peru/Bolivia Tours

I remember my parents. My mom would let me watch He Man for a while. Same year. Yeah, I wasn't allowed to watch that. There's a lot of weird stuff in the 80s. Or Pee Wee Herman. I was a lot of watch Pee Weirman either.

I think she was on to something there. Made a great meme about Nephilim with Pee B. We sure did. We sure did. Speaking of Nephilim, you know, I talk a lot about giants at times and Nephilim, you guys are crushing it. We've got footprints in Texas. You know, there's different interviews I've done with you

where we're talking about the Giants of Ancient America and all these old newspaper articles of the late 1800s, early 1900s, that are talking about giants found in almost every state, right? From publications like the New York Times, we've got every ancient culture really talking about these ancient floods and a golden age world where the guys, mingled with men. We've got, you know, the Book of Enoch talking about the watchers descending right on

Mount Hermon and Israel and breeding with earth women to create this hybrid race of giants. We've got the Bible, Genesis 6, talking about there were giants on the earth in those days, right? And funny, interesting how the flood narrative happens right after that. So you guys have spent countless hours talking to guests and thinking about giants of the old world, the Nephilim. I kind of want to just hear from each of you know. It doesn't have to be long because we've got some other topics to hit on. But when you peel back the onion, how do you visualize the golden age world, the ancient prehistoric world where these.

gods mingled with men and there were giants and cryptids. What's that look like to you? I feel like it's sort of almost futuristic. I think you had a lot of technology that they were able to harness that we have lost, that we're slowly trying to replicate via like modern technology with wires and screens and computers, right? But I think they had a, they had sort of a future. futuristic world through ancient, more organic materials. And I think they're able to achieve the same purposes.

So I bet you if you could go back, you would see probably floating objects, giants, weird creatures, power sources that we don't even understand, maybe farming technology. You know, we saw some of that in Peru. They had these lattices and they had these just, they were building on mountains. and you're like, why are they building a society and civilization way up here? Like, how do they function up here on this mountain, right? But they had probably, I mean, we can just see the stones and just little glimpses of their tech. So I think it was like a futuristic hybrid of same problems. How do we power this thing?

How do we feed this thing? How do we communicate? But also, how do we make this thing look sweet? So it was sort of like a, I said on the cultish podcast, I said it's, we as modern day humans, and especially Christians, think that the ancient world was just this moral rebellion. But I think it was a big FU to God in every way possible. Technology, spirituality, physical, genetic, anything they could do to rebel against God. and build their own earth golden age down here, I think they did.

So I think if we went back, we would see it would be like a science fiction movie. We'd be blown away at what we're looking at and just what's walking around. Like the straight out of Cantina, Star Wars, just what is that? You know? Just I think that's how it would be. And I think there's a lot of evidence to suggest that that's how it was. end, you know, that's just me kind of being more of a visionary kind of visual person, just thinking, probably pretty wacky, but probably fascinating too, just to see.

Yeah. Yeah, Nate. No, I was going to, I think this is always interesting conversation because this causes a lot of visceral reactions with folks, especially in the Christian space, because inevitably, as you said it, and it kind of invokes the Book of Enoch, which is just an expose on Genesis 6.

It's really just a, you know, it's a bunch of chapters about what happened in that space. But I was want to remind folks that, like, for the first 400 years after Christ, this was the idea of an angelic mixing with humanity was commonplace until it wasn't. Enoch still remains a part of the canon in Ethiopian Bible. In fact, it was what the modern seminaries would tell you about the set-eyed view.

As Doug Van Dorn said in our show, it takes a lot more mental gymnastics to make that happen than it does to believe that there was an angelic rebellion and a mixing of species. And I don't remember who on our show Nate said this, but it stuck with me the idea that there was this impartation of knowledge. Graham Hancock talks about the enlightened traveler, right, that shows up and shows people civilization. Really, you know, Graham is very close, I think. He's so anti-bibble and anti-giant, for example, that he just, that's the missing piece. Really, it's an impartation of technology, right? Our descriptions of heaven are streets and walls and roads. And if you talk about manna, man, it's the bread of heaven, which I think we talked about this on the show native, that means it had to be grain. So the idea there's this, that the heavenly realm is this more advanced civilization, really, in some ways, if you want to put it that way, right?

Like there's, and the rebellious watchers then taught these, they traded technology for wives. They taught humanity these how to do things, right? And what is so fascinating about being in Peru, for example, and you've had this experience because you've been there to Egypt and seeing the cyclopean technology in Peru and touched the stones is this is what's, left that survived this cataclysm, whatever you as far as your beliefs, biblical or not, there was a

global cataclysm. That's almost, it's irrefutable, right? That this happened. And what we have left are the stones. That's all this left. But they still remain. Like when you touch the cyclopean architecture in Kusko, Peru, or at Soxay-Waman,

or at Ajontai Tambo, where you find the cyclopean architecture at Machu Picchu. We're touching something that made it through the global cataclysm. So the technology to do that is we don't know how they did it. And they don't know how to do it. I mean, I think one of the best points that we heard when we were in Peru, Nate, the point that Tim made, I think, was interesting was when the Spanish come and they conquer the Inca,

and they build their cathedrals and churches on top of all of the Inca temples. None of that architecture is Cyclopean. And the idea that the Inca then didn't know how to do it, right? You think if you were conscribing the Inca to build these churches, what the Spanish did, they'd say that technology over there, which isn't in, I mean, I shot from where they built these churches. Built like that, it's earthquake proof. They didn't know how to do it, right? So there's this idea that there was this technology and there were these, this methodology and there was this methodology and there was this knowledge that was imparted pre-flood. And then from like a creature standpoint, we talked about Bigfoot at the top, right?

Maybe there's remnants of this stuff that we see. I think of a lot of what is immortalized in the mythology of ancient civilizations probably has threads of truth in the golden age. Even the Inca, when in Peru talk about Machu Picchu being the abode of the gods. They found these places. They want to dwell there because the gods have dwelt there, right? flies in the face of the narrative that the Inca built all this if they're saying that they found it and they added on you can see the difference in technology and in construction

so there it's a lot of things going on if you ascribe with the biblical worldview there were giants running around right that's part of what we find if we find it post-flood as well with the raffaim and the conquests of Joshua and the tribes of giants and canaan So I think it was a wild west of just defilement and the impartation of this of this knowledge and technology that was part of the trade. So, I mean, we look at the remnants. You talk a lot about Egypt. You look at the things that remain. And you look at the narratives to surround them as far as how these were built.

Who built these? And if you're a thinking person, you ask enough questions, it doesn't really add up. And so then what really happened? I think it's a question, the reality is we don't really know how they did some of the stuff. We don't know how they celestial aligned some of these things. We don't know how they formed the, how they cyclope and put these rocks together without mortar that are all irregular shaped and fit together where you can't stick a piece of paper between it. And it's not a facade. I've seen this on Instagram.

It's just a facade. Like, you know what? There's places on these walls. The stones are pulled out and they go all the way back. That drives me nuts. I'm glad you brought that up. I often see that answer. If I post a photo, right, or a video of a megalific wall,

well, that's just a facade. Like, it's, you know, they're not actual stones. It's just a facade. Like, it just looks like they're stones. They're not really individual stones. I'm like, no, they are. And you guys were there. up close. I mean, these, these are clearly individual stones that go deep into the wall, correct?

Yeah, and the Spanish dismantled a bunch of these, right? In order actually for building material, for building, they're building their own cathedral. They build on top of all the Incon temples. And so there are places, Nate, where we had lunch that one day in Kusko. We were down those alleys and there was those cyclopean walls. There was a really good example. I don't know if I took a photo, I have to look back to my photos, but where rocks have been removed or stones have been removed and you could see them. And it's one of those things where you're like, let me look into here. it, they go all the way back. Like, it's not, because I, I'd seen that on our, our pages too, right?

Like, oh, they just built this facade. It's, it's, it's, it's decoration. This is just on top of, you know, really good stonework. And you're like, it actually isn't. In fact, it sucks a woman. The Spanish dismantled the walls by a factor of two. Like, they're half the size they were. And so when you go to the top of these walls, you can see a lot of what's below you,

because it's been taken apart. They took all the stone down to build, you know, the cathedral of San Juan and these other other churches down in Kusko, which is a mile away. It's, I love it because there aren't good answers, right? And that's, I think that's what's important is that you can't just explain it away easily. Like, they just, they did it. You're like, well, then why does it look different here? Shouldn't it get better as it's newer? And that's always the thing.

Like, we have better iPhones now. in the iPhone 14, then we did with one, right? They don't get worse. I mean, it's a bad example, but it's also a good example because the technology is not getting worse. And that's what you see in a lot of these places. You see it in Egypt. You know this.

I've seen enough of your videos. You see that somehow the dynastic Egyptian construction is worse than what's older. I think just to kind of give an 80s analogy here, I think if you remember the movie Terminator 2, right? Like, they were able to build this, they were able to rebuild the robot based on this computer ship that they found from the first movie, right? So they just had this little piece of a computer chip inside the skull of one of this original Terminators. And I think that's what the megaliths are.

Like if we were seeing 4 to 5% of what they had. And I think if we were able to build the whole machine and see what the whole empire looks. looked like. I think we are just looking into a glimpse of the technology that they had. And I think just that four or five percent that we still have today is so immaculate and amazing, especially in Peru, some of the best preserved in the world, you realize, like, we're just seeing a few, like, just a little bit in a window into this ancient world and what they had and what was going on. And I think the evidence there suggests that. And so if we were to build out this whole, empire, what would it actually look like?

I think we'd be pleasantly surprised of how advanced it was. Let's talk about Stargates real quick. All these ancient megalithic temples in Egypt and even with the dynastics built on top of, they're talking about stargates

all over. I mean, it seems like almost every temple you're going to see depictions and hieroglyphs relating to stargates to portals. In Peru, You guys were at one of my favorite sites, Napa Hocca or Napa and Glacia, one of those. We told your story at the site, by the way.

Okay. I mean, that looks like, and according to Incan legend, this was a portal of sorts. It was a Stargate. So, again, we hit on the watchers descending, according to the book of Enoch, likely through a Stargate. What does your guys take on Stargates? and do you think some of the blurry creatures that you cover on your show, whether they're so-called aliens or cryptids or Bigfoot, do you think there's still Stargates that these entities are coming through today? Yeah, I mean, definitely. I think that there are hotspots all over the United States when it comes to a lot of these paranormal activity. We talked with you about Mount Shasta. We just interviewed a pastor that's a person.

said there's a portal up there on top of Mount Shasta. And he's supposed to go there and meet with a family of Bigfoot. So, yeah, I mean, I think that they're hot. You throw that out there. You just keep moving on. This is where we're at. Yeah, this is where we're at in the show. Like, I think there are definitely, like, ways that they travel.

I mean, you don't build advanced tech. Like, you know, our government just came out and said we have, we've had these craft in our possession for a long time. it's non-human origin whether you buy that story or not I mean it's not the first time we've heard this there's been whistleblowers for decades I would have an episode with you Derek about

covered shit or recovered craft yeah and it's like this is not a new story you don't I mean you don't build a Lamborghini to go from here to McDonald's you know you build it so you can cruise it down the highway and you can go somewhere and I think that

these guys are coming and going and they're They're going from point A to point B in ways we don't understand. And I think that there are Stargates and things because, like I said earlier, you have people going from our dimension somewhere else. You have people who are disappearing. You have people that are going from one location, then not here. And how does that possible? And you see these ancient glimpses of technology and maybe some doorways and things like that.

So I don't really know how that works, but we hear about it all. Places like, you know, Skinwalker Ranch to places in Peru, like you said, like that cave. And there seems to be some sort of highway that they use that we don't understand. And I think that maybe that's the on-ramp to that highway. Yeah, there's, whatever you want to call it, portal or a Stargate. there's definitely something happening. And I think with quantums, you can mathematically make it make sense, right?

Even Einsteinian physics, you can talk about bending space time and, you know, you ascribe to those theories or you don't. Yeah, the road in the bridge, right? Yeah. The math checks out. So it's really hard to refute

that those things aren't possible. And then you have all the anecdotal stories, right? You have, there's the one from Politis that I always go back to, Nate, it's on Mount Shasta, the guy just walking into, who's disappeared and the guy's gone, there's no camp gear, there's no body, there's no crevasse, there's nothing.

And I think about the same thing we're talking to Jonathan Redbird Dover about some of the experiences on the res, the one tracking the Bigfoot, for example. So these things are going somewhere, and they're coming from somewhere. And, you know, whether you want to quantify that as supernatural or you want to apply, you know, physics and quantums and math around it.

I think you're really just saying the same thing. And, you know, I think your story at Noapa, Anglesia is fascinating. Actually, Derek, because we told that story when we were there because that is a very odd place in a very odd carving, very old carving in the stone. And the fact that there was an experience there that you were there to witness, not be a part of, but witness. there's something going on. I think Nathan hit it on the head.

The way that some things move in our space to defy really the logic of the laws of nature or physics that we would describe. They shouldn't be able to do that, but they do. And yeah, I mean, I definitely think it happens. I know that there are occultic rituals

that are practice. practiced that they attempt to open these things as well to let things through. And people tell you that maybe this was happening at CERN, or at Oak Ridge, closer to us here in Tennessee, that they are trying to open things. And we know that, you know, Alster Crowley and then those that follow him, and he's a very famous Satanist and a cultist, that a lot of things they did was attempting to do that,

to open up workings as they called them, was attempting to open up portals. and to bring things through. So there's a predication for that within the occult, right? So there's something very real happening, and I would say that it's on the supernatural spiritual plane, but there's interaction with the physical as well. So it sounds a lot like our talking Bigfoot at the top of the show,

but there's something very odd that happens. And I think it happened in the ancient days, and I think it's still happening today. And they need needle in the head. There's spots and ancient spots that it's probably still going on. Skinwalker is a good one. Skinwalker's bizarre. There's that whole story with the ranchers about the sort of portal opening up

and the Bigfoot type creature growing out. And these are cattle ranchers. This isn't made for TV, you know, whoever, whoever saying this has happened, you know, and finding Bigfoot. This is like a guy that raised cattle saying this is what happened in the sky. Yeah, man. The farther you go, the weirder it gets sometimes, right? Yeah.

Yeah, fascinating. Man, we've covered so many great topics. For the second time, I want to make sure we end with talking about UFO disclosure, aliens, entities, however you want to package that. For somebody like me and probably you guys, you know, I grew up in the 80s, I was one of the weird kids that followed UFOs. And we talked a little bit about this on, I think, our last interview where we talked about UFO crash retrievals from long time ago, historic ones. You know, back in the 80s, it was, again, you were weird to talk about UFOs.

It wasn't mainstream, right? And here we are today seeing disclosure and really almost government disclosure like never before. with these whistleblowers coming forward talking about, you know, hey, the government's been retrieving non-human craft for decades. I want to hear from you guys. I know you've been interviewing Albarino a lot. And you guys are deep into the space and leading the charge on making sure that this is getting talked about.

What's your take? I know that's a big, big question. What's your take on what's happening? I know it's multifaceted probably from so many angles, but just talk to me about your thoughts on the UFO disclosure. You've got some people saying this is a total sci-op. Yet what the official government, NASA explanation, seems to be saying, no, this isn't really happening.

So you've kind of got conflicting reports. So talk to me a little bit. bit about the disclosure. How did we get here? And where these UFOs coming from? Is it aliens from outer space? Is it government? Syap? Or is it a little bit of both? What are your thoughts? Yeah. I mean, I think one of the questions, one of the things I say a lot on the show is like it's all the above, right? So, you know, you think you have it figured out and then you have a story that blows holes in that that idea and you know when it comes to these these craft it's been going on for a long time you have reports have done a couple episodes on sort of ancient UFO sightings you know like there was that

one over Nuremberg and there was just like UFO war that the battle happening in the skies and like the 1500s and a bunch of people were saying this and documented it and they even had like sort of like a newspaper of the day that wrote about it um there was kind of more like a like a leaf that went out throughout the community or whatever. And they, you know, it was, it was, they documented it. And there was like a painting and stuff. And so, you know, we brought on exorcists to say it's, it's all deception. It's all smoke and mirrors.

And I try to explain to him that, you know, we also brought on someone who was part of his church, Catholic Church, Dr. Diana Pesilka, saying that she went into the Vatican archives. There was a whole wing dedicated to UFOs and sightings and paranormal stuff. And that was ancient. So she had access because she was an academic. and she had to have somebody go in there and put these gloves on and look through these archives. So this isn't a modern day phenomena, something that's been going on a long time. Now, what do you think it is?

I don't know. You know, I don't really have all the answers to that. I think it is a lot of physicality attached to it. You have craft crashes. You have grays that are found. You have bodies that are like preserved. You have this non, it moves and behaves like a lot like what we do. When we crash in our cars, we're just this mangled body and this wreckage.

And we have the same thing happening with these advanced beings that are flying around. Now, I think they probably come from inside the earth. They probably come from other areas around, who knows, outside of our solar system. But I think some of them are maybe interdimensional, maybe spiritual, maybe playing for the wrong team. I think you can say that some of it's sciop, some of it's fake by our own government, trying to push a narrative, some of it is something they can't control. And I think these whistleblers are coming out because they're afraid. They're afraid of getting taken out.

They're afraid of getting killed, silenced, whatever. They're getting, you know, sort of, you know, let's teach you a lesson. Don't talk about this stuff. So there's no easy answers, you know, when it comes to. but I think technology is catching up to it. I think more and more whistleblowers are going to come out and say,

I've worked on this tech, seen this tech. We've got a very similar story to Bob Lazar. They're going to have credentials. They're going to have all the credibility and they're going to say the same thing. We have non-human craft.

That is pretty much anyone in the UFO space now, anyone in this who's been in here for decades knows that this is the narrative. Bob Lazar kind of dudes, we're telling the truth. We have it.

Now, we need to have a discussion now about where it come from. Is it good, bad? Not, is this a Hollywood movie? Is this propaganda? Is this sci-op? No, we have it. And I think we can all say now, anyone who's been in this space, it is real. It's here.

Let's have that conversation. How much do they know? And why hasn't the public been taught and brought up to speed? And it's kind of sad. But that's what's happening. Yeah, I think I'd remind people that it actually isn't, like you said, Derek very astutely, isn't the government saying this, right? These are whistleblowers.

And unlike the Edward Snowden whistleblower, you know, when he blew the whistle on the NSA for spying on a whole list, there wasn't protections there are now. So these are NASA, who everyone likes to remind and tell us are big liars. They're saying their narrative is that there's no extraterrestrial life and none of this is true. The government hasn't recognized or put out a statement about this. They did hold House Oversight Committee hearings, right? These are whistleblowers with legal protections. In fact, some of the things they talk about, if you watch it, they have to do in a skiff.

So it's classified stuff that can't be released. So I think there's a fair amount of credibility into that that this isn't. I mean, you're talking about a sci-op within a sci-op, and people say, well, that's what they're doing. And it's like, okay. I mean, I guess, but if the government's going to push a narrative, why is none of the mainstream media really covering? and why are the mouthpieces for our government saying the opposite? Yeah, they're selling confusion, sure. I mean, you can go down a million paths here,

but to me, there's a lot of credibility in these testimonies, right? Based on the credentials of those giving testimony, we're talking about naval pilots. We're talking about people with classified credentials and access and legal protections. So it begs us to talk about it. I like to remind people when I have these conversations with my friends that extraterrestrial just means not of earth. Right? And angels would be considered extraterrestrial.

They're not of earth. We are. We were, this is our dominion. We were placed here. God created man and put it on, put us here. Job is very specific about the sons of God singing for joy at the creation of the earth. So they weren't, they're not of earth. So I think there's a lot of places you can go with this.

And, you know, do they have craft? I mean, if you just throw all of, you got to throw all that stuff and say everyone's lying. Everybody's lying. And this is all a big sci-op for what end, Project Bluebeam. That's why I think, I think Nate's pretty right on when you say it's probably some of all the above. Like I think there are probably factions of our government and world governments that are take advantage of this as, you know, as a, you know, as some sort of way to inspire fear. You could talk a lot about eschatology and how this could play out, depending on what your views

on end times and are, but I think, I think this is something that we need, that begs us to talk about and to contextualize, because, as I say on our show a lot, if we don't look for answers in the scripture and within our faith that can answer some of these questions, I believe we can. Then, you know, the world's more than happy to disciple us in their version of the narrative. And that's always going to be counter to God and counter to, you know, to the promises of God and the things of God. So, you know, our friend Tim Mabarino, he would say this is the biggest thing to happen, the biggest news since the resurrection of Christ.

It's fascinating to see it. I was thinking about this morning how it's at this point today, it's pretty much kind of disappeared again. again, it's mind-blowing to me that these, something that this magnitude is, um, it just blips sort of the, the attention and not the mainstream attention, right? This is hardly covered in mainstream media. You had to look for outlets and some of them were squashed on YouTube and other places that, that were covering this. Um, so there's a lot, there's a lot of smoke there for me saying that this, there's, there's probably a lot of truth to this. Um, you're not 100% true probably. That's,

It's probably the case of them of everything. But enough credibility, it seems like, with whistleblowers, enough credibility with the method to which this happens. You're talking about some kind of crazy amount of orchestration for this to all be some vast, you know, world is a stage play to make us believe that when vast story of people that are tuning in don't believe it anyway, right? So I don't see the end game here.

I think the endgame, honestly, as we, as we've, you know, blazed down this trail is going to be some involvement. And you hear it. And not from any Christian narratives, from narratives about how they're already here and they're helping us. They're like on our side. They're going to step in before we destroy each story each other. It's this benevolent sort of ET, benevolent alien partnership, right? or somehow they seeded us here. I think that's the big deception that's going to be rolled out.

I don't think the big deception is that there are these things. I think in the same way, we talked about portals and Stargates and things coming in and coming through. I think we could probably talk a lot about maybe that's perhaps how some of these things end up in our realm. And, you know, I could be wrong on that. But I do think that we do a disservice. to put our heads in the sand or have a visceral knee-rick reaction that says that all this is a sigh up,

all this is a lie, all this is holograms and not consider the balance of what potentially this could be. And not buying every single narrative or buying everyone's testimony, but holding all those things equal and saying there's there's enough truth here that we need to have a discussion around this. From a Christian. Two things I want to... So good. Two things I want to push, not push back on, ask you about Nate, okay, so I want to ask you about

these so-called greys we hear about, right? You guys did a podcast recently. I think it was called Children in the Woods, where... And you've done other episodes that talk about this phenomena of supposed alien abductions or entity abductions. And I think in your most recent episode, Children in the Woods, you know, you had...

You had witnesses who said, hey, they had this experience with grays, that they were being probed, all this crazy stuff. And then, Nate, you just said you think that some of these might come from inside the earth. Not necessarily, you're not necessarily talking outer space. You're talking about in the earth, which almost that makes my memory jog of Captain Admiral Bird and Operation, what was it, high jump or paperclip way back when, where he went to this massive exescent. expedition down to Antarctica. What was that right during

or after World War II? And he claims to see entities from inside the earth and flying craft come out. Sensational stuff. Interesting how upon his death his stuff was all taken and classified by

so tell me a little bit more about the inner earth part of this and your thoughts on the end grace. Yeah, I mean, people send this stuff all the time, so I've loosely looked into the topic. I think there's something, there's a lot of rumbles. We talked about how they're always building underground. There's these caves that go underground, these underground systems. There's underground, you know, dynasties and rumored in the Grand Canyon and Shasta.

and it's like what's under the ground? What is beneath us? What is, are there maybe some highways down inside the earth and what's going on with that whole thing? There's lots of UFO sightings of them coming out of the ocean, coming out of mountains, being in and around places that seem to go down inside.

So I think that there's something about our earth on the inside. Like, that we're not fully aware of and going inside of it. I'm not really in the flat earth space, but I definitely think that there might be a hollow part, and there might be some caverns and some access points to get inside. A lot of this stuff comes from, you know, Tim came on and talked about the varic coaches and these angelic sort of beings that, you know,

live inside some of the areas in Peru down inside the mountain. And people come on a show and talk about the dumps, underground military bases and how there's this stuff underground. So I don't know. I don't, you have to sort of expand your perspective, but there's this element of things being deep in the earth.

And I think that goes back to a lot of legends, stories, Tolkien literature, whatever. It's not a new thing. So until we get down there and see for ourselves, I don't know, but the gray seemed to be some sort of biological army that is carrying out a task. They don't really have a personality. They don't really invoke fear. They just kind of show up and carry out tasks in all the encounter stories we've heard.

Now, there's a modern recent account so these things being tall, seven, eight foot. The face peelers we do with Tim down in Peru. You have these people, they're getting terrorized. by these seven-foot-tall gray. So I don't know if what those are. And in Vegas, as well, there was a tall one in that kid's backyard,

and he got a couple of frames of it when they were filming. So I don't know. They're supposedly, there's big ones and short ones. But a lot of people get abducted by the short ones. They show up in your bedroom. They show up, you know, places you would never suspect. And they,

either you're having the beginnings of an encounter or an abduction or the end of an abduction. and they don't, but they don't, they don't sound like they have a personality. They sound like they're just there to do their thing and leave, whereas all the other sort of creatures in our space seem to have some kind of markers that help you realize what it is and what it's doing and kind of has a personality. So I think there's a lot there, but we're going to get into some of these topics. we've talked about the grays a lot, but more of like inside the earth. What is what is that?

We've only kind of scratched the surface, no pun intended. That's great. Luke, anything to add on the final topic there? Well, I just, we've allegedly found an ocean that's larger than the one on the surface of the earth beneath the earth, like 400 miles down. So I don't know we really know what's there. We've had a lot of conversations about the deep underground military bases and, you know, under our country. And, you know, there's purportedly, you know, under rail systems and all of this. And that's sort of been, has been reported by, you know, whistleblowers in that space as well.

So there's a lot of things in the earth that we don't know about. The great thing is fascinating. I mean, you can go a lot of different places with that. And I think Nate did a good job talking about that, even to the point where, You know, there are creatures like that that supposedly peek through, you know, portals that Crowley opened up, right? So, you know, what do you make of all that? And, you know, again, if any, if just one of these stories is true.

You have to go back to that. Just one of these is true. You have to find context. You have to expand your paradigm to include the reality that there are creatures like that. And there's just a lot of stories. A lot of stories out there. of anecdotal evidence. And so you can't,

you can't dismiss it all. That's something you can do that. I think you do yourself a disservice if you do. What are they doing? What are they exactly? I mean, that's the big mystery, man. It's just like Bigfoot and tell someone pulls them out of the woods. You know, and they can put them on a table and we can analyze it.

We're not really going to know. Yeah, that's my thoughts. Yeah, that's my thoughts. Yeah, I'll close with, I don't know if I ever brought this up when we've been talking about UFOs, but like we said, this whole UFO disclosure could be so multi-layered. One of the craziest things I ever heard, back when I was just kind of getting into launching this space, Meglithic Marvels, there was a guy named Doc Marquis who had a platform about kind of exposing the Illuminati,

and he'd talk about UFOs, and he would get into ancient structures. too. So somehow I started following this guy a little bit and I heard him on a podcast. This is like probably 2014. And again, this guy, fortunately he passed away like maybe five years ago. Again, he seemed legit. But his whole thing was he was brought up in an Illuminati family from Aluminati bloodlines and basically got saved out of that, got rescued out of that. And he was devoting his life to now exposing this cabal. And so he told the story one time where he remembers being a kid. And this had to be, I'm assuming it was in the 60s, kind of by the age he was when he was doing the podcast.

But he was a kid, I think, in the 60s. he remembers being with his dad in basically a dumb, a deep underground military base. And again, if you believe this guy, he's in a powerful, influential,

aluminati type family. And he's in this underground base where they were doing genetic experiments. And he remembered being horrified and literally scarred for life at what he saw. He said back in the 60s, he

glanced into some of these rooms and saw them basically using advanced tech that we would think they never had back then to basically clone and create small alien-grade type entities. And he remembers looking at them when they were

in pain and he remembers feeling, you know, just heartbroken for him because it was almost kind of like they were children, but again, this was the genetic experiment. So his thought was, this was, you know, these were part humans, but they were chimerica

nature. All that to say, one of his theories was that for the sci-op part of all of this, for the cover-up, whether there might be actual real Gray's.

He also believed the government was manufacturing their own version for their own deceptive end to place in some of these reverse engineered craft. That always just blew my mind, that concept, that thought,

I just couldn't imagine seeing what he saw. So, any last thoughts, guys? I know that was, we covered a lot of topics, and I want to honor your time. We've got to end this. But I just want to say thank you. Man, it's been awesome, not just becoming fans of your guys, but in your show, but friends and running with you in some of these crazy spaces.

And, man, thanks for starting the show. I know I speak for hundreds and thousands when I say, thanks for launching blurry creatures. And, man, like I said before, you've made road trips great again. There's nothing like one camping in downloading my playlist of blurry episodes. and just cruising, man, for hours. So thanks, guys. Yeah, thanks, man. Thanks for sponsoring us. And, like, you know, with just supporting us actually more like

and promoting us to your fan base early on before you even really knew us as people. You just, you were a fan of what we were doing. And you took a chance to promote our content early on, put us in, like, your top 10 at the end of the year. And it's really cool, Derek. I think you're very generous with sharing your content and other people's content, helping other people in promoting the truth in these spaces. And I think a lot of times, you know, we're all trying to build channels. We're all trying to, you know, figure out how to like, we're all nerds about this stuff and we'd love to do it on a daily basis. And it's really hard to, like, figure that out sometimes.

So, you know, sharing other people's content, working together with other people. Building community is really important. And I think it can be very, you know, difficult and tricky sometimes. But, you know, you've been very generous and very kind and very kind. you're not possessive. You want to help other people, and I just appreciate that about you. And a very nerdy, competitive,

sometimes environment, sometimes it can become. So thanks, man. Thanks for doing that. And we're just blown away. We just try to make a fun and interesting. Can't believe this many people care. And hopefully it just keeps growing

on the Blurryverse expands, and we can work on some projects in the future, do a lot of stuff together. I'm sure we're going to be releasing a lot of reals. and other things together. So we've got a lot of plans and hopefully the, we know, obviously you came to our conference

and you spoke there. So you've been nothing but just a pal and a friend and a real person and like sort of a digital world that we find ourselves in. So thank you. Yeah.

You're one of the good guys, man. We're glad to be, we're glad to know you. And yeah, like you're a BlurryCon 1. So, you know, they can never take that from us. That was an epic event. It was. Yeah.

And I, you know what? I just appreciate you. The things you're doing, the questions you're asking is we ask questions in the space. I love the lane that you're in and the questions you ask there. I think it's so important. It's such an important conversation to have that we look backward to understand some of these things. And also to look for, to ask questions, to ask, to question the narrative, to uncover the evidence, right? I think in a lot of ways we're doing a lot of the similar things, just in,

We're in different lanes. Sometimes our lanes cross over, which is a lot of fun. And so we're just grateful for you, man. And excited to see what the future holds for Megalytic Marvels and Derek Olson. And I'm just glad to be a small part of what you're doing here. Thanks, guys. And to everybody watching, make sure you subscribe to the Blurry Creatures podcast. They're on all platforms.

follow them on social media, Instagram, YouTube, subscribe. You can also become a member and get bonus content. And you guys are always doing fun stuff with your members. Anything else you want to say

about how people can follow you, connect with you, upcoming projects, anything like that? Yeah, just join in the Blurrayverse, blurry creatures.com, is where we're kind of our hub. And you can find us on all the social media,

blurry creatures. just get in whenever you can. Sometimes you've got to dive into the deep end with Tim Alvarino, but sometimes you can wait in with a Bigfoot episode. I don't know. Whatever you choose, come on down. Just get weird with us. Yeah.

Now thanks, Derek. Yeah. Come check it out. And then, you know, I don't know. We'll be lurking. We'll be lurking like Bigfoot. Yeah. You'll be crushing.

Well, hey, guys, thanks again for your, time. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, this was a very fun and insightful episode. I think viewers, listeners are going to really enjoy this. And until then, stay blurry, huh? Stay blurry.