Megalithic Marvels - Solstice Secrets, New Discoveries in Turkey & Egypt / Hugh Newman

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

In this episode I sit down with author, researcher and explorer Hugh Newman to discuss an array of fascinating topics. Being that Hugh hales from England where he photographs and documents crop circles, I begin by asking him about this strange phenomena and how far back this mystery dates. Next we chat about some of England's most fascinating ancient long barrows and the enigmas concerning them. Hugh then gives a very interesting presentation regarding the power and importance of the winter and summer solstices that go back to the paleolithic and mesolithic time periods. We then travel to Turkey where we discuss the latest discoveries at Karahan Tepe, as well as theorize as to why it seems that officials at Gobekli Tepe are not only slow-walking their excavations, but also hiding giant artifacts... We end the interview getting Hugh's latest thoughts on the Khafre Pyramid SARS scans discovery as well as hitting on the newly alleged discovery where Scientists claim to have uncovered a second 'hidden city' beneath Giza Menkaure pyramid.FOLLOW HUGH HEREJOIN ME IN CAMBODIA HERE

Well, it is great to have back with me, researcher, explorer, author, now big time conference speaker, Hugh Newman, Hugh, how are you doing, my friend? I'm pretty good. How are you doing? Good. It's great to have you back. It seems like, again, I can barely keep up with all your travels, all your conference speaking now. Where have you been last, Hugh? It seems like you were just, was it in Turkey? Yeah, we did a tour to Turkey. in May that was kind of epic um before that I was in Mexico for a month exploring all the Olmec sites which is an interesting place to go especially with all the cartel stuff kind of peaking out there it appears now and and yeah so we were we're doing a bit of traveling over the

winter we've been doing stuff around Britain as well but yeah we're trying to stop and focus on the book myself and j. J.J. Ainsworth but um there's a lot to do a lot of conferences coming up some tools we're running as well but there's like you say there's a megalithic world to see so we've got to keep exploring right yeah and I just was

creeping on your Facebook page you were just posting some photos the last week or so of you had some crop circles that showed up there in the UK I think it was near Faulkner's stone circle near

Avebury tell us a little bit bit about the crop circles that you have visited the last couple weeks and any new theories regarding this enigma, especially there in the UK. Yeah, there's a few if you have turned up. There's one, like you said, in the Avebury. This is, Faulkner's circle is what a couple of stones are left there. It was a small stone circle actually just next to the megalithic avenue that goes down from Avebury. It's called the Kennet Avenue, goes down to the sanctuary. and there was basically a crop circle turned up in a field kind of in the valley there between the ridgeway and the avenue.

And so, yeah, it's kind of a cool location next to an ancient site, which is always good for these things to kind of be, especially when you're flying your drone. You kind of get these amazing shots, all the stuff in the background. And there's another one, a huge one turned up. This is clearly, you know, this is clearly a kind of bit of a funny, design, shall we so, a bit of humor. It was like a big joker's face near Stonehenge, right

next to where another one turned up last year, funnily enough. So there's been a few here and there. A couple is a nice Celtic knot. Also in Wiltshire, which was placed between these two trees and this sort of field and this valley. So yeah, as for theories, no, nothing has changed.

I mean, clearly some of them, or all of them, are kind of man-made. There's an artistic land art element to them, which I usually appreciate nowadays. But there is still a historic mystery that goes back tens, if not hundreds of years. And so, you know, even though those that make them today were obviously inspired by a genuine phenomenon, which was around a long time ago, and could still be happening a little bit now.

Right. So it sounds like you lean towards most of the crop circles we see today are man-made creations, whether they're doing it with drone or some kind of cool tech, very artistic. And it's kind of like having been there in England with you last year, it's kind of its own cool vibe. You know, all the crop circle hunters show up and whenever a new one appears. But let me just ask you one more time. You mentioned the original enigma of these crop circles that happened hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Anything you can share in that real quick, just from your research, the earliest,

or some of the earliest crop circles that popped up where were they and what were the mysteries surrounding those yeah there's quite a lot actually uh i did a kind of ton of research on that because i was fascinated uh about the locations they were turning up in because often they're associated with ancient sites megalithic sites but there's a genuine prehistory of crop circles there's a couple of books a bit i've looked into this as well that people have written um and with the most famous one is in the 1600s. It's called the Mowing Devil in Hertfordshire, which is at east of England. And some strange lights, some fiery lights were seen in the field. This was reported in this kind of woodcut news report. And the next morning they went out there and there's this big flattened

circle and they called it the Mowing Devil when it was reported upon as the devil had done it in the night. And we have also numerous other scientists really from the 17, 1800. they witnessed them all across Britain. Robert Plott was one of them, and he wrote about them in some of his texts, witnessing them. There's some old aerial photography from the 1900s, early 1900s, all over the place that seemed to have them in there.

I just can't believe people were going out there and making them at these times, whereas nowadays people do. They get inspired by all this, and they go out and they create this. astonishing artworks, you know, based upon very sacred geometry and other such things. But there's still some mystery associated with them. I mean, I've literally been filming it with my drone.

And actually, a ball of light has just flown over the crop circle and I've got it on camera. So you get things like this actually happening. And obviously, we have balls of light, you know, creating the crop circle. It's that famous video that came out in 1996, although some people say that's a hoax. but, you know, there's a, it's an unusual thing, and it's kind of like, it makes the summer's interesting in rural Western England here. You know, we kind of have something to do,

go out and explore these kind of strange effigies in the landscape. That's fascinating that there were crop circles popping up in the Middle Ages. That's a rabbit hole. I got to go down deeper, but let's kind of keep it in the UK, as far as discussion goes, in your latest newsletter, you had a blurb about the giant megalithic capstone of the, I think it was called Tickenswood, and you also mentioned and the haunted dolmens. So if you can, tell us about this giant capstone and this mysterious dolman. These are sites in South Wales, close to Cardiff, and there's two sites.

There's actually probably many more. but St. Leithens is the haunted dolman apparently and it's kind of related to these Arthurian myths of hunting with dogs and things like this and it used to be a long barrow even though what's left is a dolman and it's got some strut. I mean the whole field is supposed to be cursed.

A cursed field is what it's been termed as so nothing grows there properly. It's got this weird energy. Some people say it's haunted and there's lots of other kind of structures nearby, but further along on this route in Southern Wales, you have Tinkin's Wood Burial Chamber, which is absolutely huge. The Capstone is like a kind of,

it's just a floor of living room. It's huge. It's quite thin. It's one not relatively things. It's like two feet thick, you know, but it's absolutely massive, and it covers this whole part of this burial chamber. It's a seven-coct-world type burial chamber,

which are some of the oldest in Britain, and some of them go back to 3,600 BC, some even up to 4,000 BC, according to some people. And there's tons of structures and stones and all the fields nearby as well. And it hasn't really been thoroughly researched. But this is a very impressive site. I mean, you get these. I mean, it's only like two and a half hour drive from here near Stonehenge.

So it's not difficult to get to. It's a great day out. We do that on our tours. Often we take a day trip there sometimes. but usually when we do our tours from Glastonbury for the conference we do we do every May so yeah so that they're pretty epic i mean they're pretty cool sites um considering they're just in this rural part of kind of southern wales yeah i was taken back by the photo of the huge capstone um had never seen that before so very interesting and then you said it's by this dolman that used to be a long barrow and you said you just you said you said you just you said there was a lot of negative energy how would you describe that negative energy like what do you feel in well it's not me particularly but we go there we set quite a lot of people uh when we do our little group tours for the conference and they could there's a lot of sensitive people there

psychics and things like this and they pick it up mostly a lot of people do and so i don't know what's going on there whether it was kind of some bad event took place there you know some kind of murders or sacrifice or something like this who knows i mean but there's something weird something weird about some places i mean i pick this up at other places i've traveled to as well where you just get this kind of vibe that you shouldn't be there you know weird stuff kind of kicks off but yeah you do get that you know but with tinkins wood that is a glorious place that is like just the glory of south wales it's the capstone is massive it's the biggest in britain some people say the biggest capstone in Europe. It's huge. I mean, it's like it takes you, you know, 12, 15 seconds to walk across it.

It's that big. It's all flat on top. So you can kind of get up on top of it and take a little stroll. But there's, yeah, and that is a kind of huge, huge site. Yeah. And it's, I do recommend people check it out if you're ever going to Cardiff in Wales. You can easily get there from there. Speaking of Longbarrow, I wanted to just bring up West Kennet Longbarrow. That was one of my favorite sites that we saw on our Mysteries of England tour last year with you in the summer. Just an incredible site way up on that hill. It's just this beautiful hike up. And then there it sits at the top of this hill.

And from, if my memory serves me right, from West Kennet, you can look out and see the artificial mound in the distance. So tell us a little bit about Silbury Hill. Was there anything ever discovered inside of that, skeletons? and then any legends with West Kennett Longbarrow, remind me how old it is and why it's so, it's the biggest, greatest longbarrow in that area, correct?

Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, this dominates the whole skyline. It's all near Avebury as well. So we're going back to the whole Avebury complex. So Silbury Hill sits in like the heart, the Avebury complex, almost like in a valley in a kind of dip. It's huge.

I mean, this is the biggest mound in Europe by far. West Kennett sits as sort of above that on a hill. hill it takes like 15 minutes to walk up there it's 100 meters long originally only about what 20 meters of it or you know 60 feet of it is actually kind of long barrow with the big megaliths and you can walk inside it with all these chambers that dates back to at least 3,650 BC they found multiple burials up to 40 burials in there some some of the some of the stones were added afterwards by a different culture the beaker people and there's lots of people have had weird experiences in there. There's like people have been drumming in there and there sort of portals have opened up.

The energies are pretty intense. It's all aligned to east to the equinox, but also to the solstices, sunrises, because of the entrance, it was originally quite wide. And it's, yeah, it's pretty epic, actually. And this one, and again, it's really old. It's older than a stonehenge, older than a knavebray stone circle. Contemporary, actually, with Tinkid's Wood. And this Longbarrow culture were doing stuff, the whole Neolithic people of Britain, were doing stuff all over. the country like that. The only thing that's anywhere near as old is that is up on Orkney, a place called, oh, I forgot,

on Papua Westray, there's a site up there as well. So there's quite a lot going on, you know, when it comes to like this super ancient earlier culture of the Neolithic, but you get that a lot around these parts in southwest England, around Wiltshire especially. And,

you know, people talk about it, having this kind of energy about it, And it certainly has. I mean, you spend a bit of time up at West Kennet when the Avebury landscape. There's something odd about it is he can't quite put your finger on. And you've been there, you know the school.

It's like you're, I mean, Abebury is so big. They built an entire village inside it. That's how big it is. My good friend Andrew Collins used to live in there, and he kind of had to move out after a while because it kind of did his head in. Because he's like, you get something,

there's something going on there, like spirits moving around or something like this. But yeah, the whole Avery landscape in West Kenet is almost like everything was built around West Kennedy, it feels like it was like the sort of peak of the hill. It was like the marker for the sacred part of the landscape dominate in that whole area. We saw some strange skulls that were in that Avebury Museum. I think they were associated with fairies. They had skinny faces and I know Maria Wheatley's written about these

were any weird strange skulls like that found at West Kennet? There was a couple actually. Yeah, I remember when we were writing our book, the Giants of Stonehenge and Ancient Britain with Jim Villar and I came up, we found a few accounts of what appeared to be

of flattened skulls inside West Kennet. But people have questioned if they were just flattened over time because of the pressure of the rock and earth. They were buried under or whether they were actually like that because there's quite a few examples across the British Isles of elongation of the skull. Maria Moweeley has done quite a bit of research on it. We've found a few accounts as well which are kind of inexplicable. And so that is a thing,

yeah, not so much as you get in Peru or other parts of the world, but certainly it seems like there was this age-old tradition of altering the baby's skull, which is a bit weird when you think about it. Imagine if someone tried to do that to a baby today, I think they'd get lynched or arrested or put in prison or whatever, because it's a pretty serious thing to be doing. Yeah, you've been writing a bit lately, Hugh, about the power, the importance of solstices, going back to the Neolithic or the Mesolithic and the Paleolithic. Anything you can share with us, I know you're going to be talking about this at an upcoming conference, but about solstice alignments. Any insight you can share on the power and the importance of these?

The solstice is a remarkable, you know, moment twice a year. Obviously, we have the summer solstice coming up in a couple of weeks. We have the winter solstice on December, the 21st or thereabouts. And obviously, Stonehenge is the big one. Everyone knows about the big solstice on Stonehenge. And it's got this avenue. It's got the hillstone all aligned to it. I usually go there most years, although this year I'm at the cosmic sun.

at speaking about solstices, funnily enough. And, and, but there's lots of, lots of summer solstice sites. It's the peak of the year. It's the kind of most sunlight and light you're going to get, least darkness. So it's almost like the peak year, the celebration time of the year. And so there are some traditions, I mean, very few traditions compared to the winter solstice. The winter solstice, the winter solstice is myths and legends and traditions all around the world. because it's like about death, regeneration, and rebirth of the sun and so forth.

Even the Christian mythos with Jesus and everything, you know, kind of coming out and being born on the 25th is when the sun starts returning to the light after being at the still point, the standstill, which means solstice in Latin. But the summer solstice is like the peak of the year. So there are traditions relating to water, to light in beacons, on hills and things like this. the water traditions are really intriguing actually because often you get if we're looking at pagan traditions in Britain you have stories of collecting dew collecting like the water that builds up on the grass and in you know in the ground and things like that overnight and using that as a sacrament using that as a kind of healing or fertility tool and also they put on your faces and things like this for like to beautify and to like give you know pure kind of water and the water

A collection of water like that is often associated with goddess traditions as well, according to Maria Gimbutus and JJ Engelworth. So you have these kind of traditions here, but we must remember that the power of the sun itself is insane. I mean, I think people don't realize that. But two minutes of sunlight coming from the sun to the earth can power the whole earth, everything that's plugged in, cars, everything else, electricity, for a year. just two minutes of sunlight is enough power to run the planet for a year

so just perspective there so imagine what it's doing to you imagine we see what it does to plants and things like this you know they grow really quickly but imagine what it's doing to us it's like having this triggering things in our DNA kind of waking us up and being forced into these extra hours of sunlight

where it's particularly sunny as well as less clouds less bad weather I think it has a profound effect that kind of gives a sense of enlightenment. So I think that was part of the summer solstice thing, but it's also like the extreme points of the year. So if you're looking at the horizon, to the furthest point north, the sun rises is the summer solstice. Then you come back, you go east to the equinox, and back to the winter solstice. That's the furthest point south on the horizon. The sun rises.

And the winter solstice. So there's this kind of area which you could look at in the sky for sunrise that's it that's all you got interestingly the moon and this is happening right now actually went there last night to have a look at this because it's the extreme point of the southern lunastus or the major lunar standstill where the sun sorry the moon reaches it kind of follows roughly the position of the sun but it goes further it goes further north and further south so we're going further south at the moment past the winter solstice point and this is part of an 18.6 year cycle which I also witnessed 18.6 years ago when I was in Calanesee to witness this

with my friend Stuart Mason and others where the sun, up at that latitude, the moon rather, doesn't even set. It literally rolls across the landscape. So I've been observing the moon here for the last two nights from Stonehenge. And the moon rises, you know, around 9.30 or 10.30. And then it just goes across the sky slowly like this

and then slowly set. Because normally it's like this, goes up and down, things like this through the year. But at these extreme points, this was also being recorded by the ancient people. And so the sun and the moon were the two calendrical motifs that they were building into their megalithic sites. And we know that, because of stonehenge, we have the four station stones, which are like a rectangular stones outside of the main stone circle. And these alignments between them and the double. diagonals and between them.

They form a 512, 13 Pythagorean triangle based on megalithic yards, but also each angle that's created by them is part of this lunar cycle. Each part marks it. And it only works at this latitude as well. If you go further north, it would become an obtuse kind of rectangle if you were trying to measure the moon like that. So it's a very specific location here as to why Stonehenge was put in place. And we could talk more about this because.

not only that does that fit with the solstice alignment, it perfectly bisects the solstice alignment, this rectangle, but also there's evidence that now that the solstice at Stonehenge was actually being observed 10,000 years ago. So that's 5,000 years at least before Stonehenge was even a twinkle in anybody's eye. You know, there were things going on in this landscape. We know that because Blickmead,

We know that the kind of spring, the natural spring, just down the road, the other direction from me is 10,000 years old. We know that there were what are called periglacial strips, which are these natural features in the landscape, and they just happen to orient, from where Stonehenge would later become, along the landscape, there's two strips going in northeast, the direction of the summer solstice sunrise. This is where the avenue was built over. at the bottom of that where the avenue takes a turn and goes off in a different direction there was an old mound there called the new wills mound which they think could be natural could be artificial there was also a mound within stonehenge as well which could have been natural could have been artificial so there's two mounds and an alignment naturally forming in the landscape which formed the summer solstice sunrise but also from the other direction if you're looking up the hill up the avenue up the peregration plerolyd glacial strips, it would be the winter solstice sunset. So there could have been a natural kind of observing just by natural features that created

Stonehenge being chose for this particular spot thousands of years later. We also know that it's a very ancient location because not just that, what I just explained, but also the C.S. Newell, Cecil Newell, he wrote a small book about Stonehen's and he found out that and later after his book came out he discovered these three post holes made a pine huge great things like this wide each one could have been up to 30 feet tall these are 10,000 years old

because there were some remnants of the pine at the bottom burnt ash and they found they were 10,000 just over 10,000 years old and so we have this extremely ancient element related to the solstice at Stonehenius and not many people even know about So I've written all this up. I published this in an article.

I published just before the last witness solstice. But it's going to be going in mine and JJ's upcoming book. But it just shows you that, you know, if you just start, if you dig a bit deeper, you can find there's a lot more underlying what these sites are all about. I mean, a stonehands really is just the tip of the iceberg. It's so fascinating how these ancient engineers all over the world were building their super structures around these solstice alignments. You know, you mentioned Stonehenge, one of the big ones. That reminds me of like Pesak in Peru or Machu Picchu. They have the Chicana stones, the Andean

Cross. I'm talking about this symbol here. So you'll see half of this, right, sticking up at Machu Picchu, megalithic white granite. And you're thinking, why is only half of it sticking out to the ground, well, when the solstice hits it, that other half emerges as a shadow, right? And then you've got what you write about in your book at Karahun Tepe and how the winter solstice, you see the sun come through the porthole and illuminate that face, right? You mentioned Peru. I mean, in a few days time, in T. Ramey celebrations kick off. These are like a gigantic kind of almost like nationwide, but based around Kusko, of celebrating to their winter solstice because it's in the southern hemisphere.

So even though it's our summer solstice, it's their winter solstice. And they've been doing that for definitely hundreds of years. Possibly it could have been an earlier tradition, which is most likely, because some of their sites like Tewanukk, even Puma Punquhru, there's been a new winter solstice alignment discovered there by Kevin Eslinger when we were working on a reconstruction of it. and so we were kind of blown away by that. But, you know, this celebration of these times a year is huge.

I mean, all over the world, the stuff going on. I've found out various Native American traditions, the Tumash and other tribes, celebrate the solstices in a very profound way. We have obviously the Carahan-Tepa alignment, which is a very strong winter solstice alignment, one of the strongest, in fact, because it's like a billion to one chance it could even happen.

but we also have sites like New Grange, which have a precise winter solstice sunrise alignment. We have Mays Howe in Orkney, which is a winter solstice sunset alignment. We have sites like Krakuno in Brittany. We have Karnak in Brittany and Karnak, actually, in Egypt as well, both winter solstice alignments. But this is cracuno, rectangle, or quadrilateral, they call it. Let me just explain this from it. This is really interesting because this is quite quickly explained. this because it blew my mind. This is the work of Howard Crowhurst. So basically it's a three, four,

five triangle. It's another Pythagorean triangle, mark, you know, in megalithic yard measurements, and the diagonal is the five, you get the three, four. And the diagonal, in fact, the two diagonals on it, at that latitude of Carnac in Brittany, where we have some of the most magnificent megalithic sites, those two diagonals mark the exact alignments to the summer and the winter solstice sunrises based upon a three four five triangle this is what how would crowhouse calls astrogeometry i do recommend you you you get Howard on here and have a talk with him because you'd be blown away by his stuff um absolutely he's astonishing some of the stuff he comes up with and so what they're noticing that's a bit like we saw it stonehenge with the station stone rectangle that only works with

the moon and the extreme points of the moon at that latitude you start shifting the latitude north or south and the rectangle won't work properly. Likewise in Britain in Karnak and Brittany as well the three four five triangles perfectly marks the solstices at that latitude and so that that is astonishing so they were working with sophisticated Pythagorean geometry thousands of years before Pythagoras was born and associating that with solstices and the movements of the moon in high detail and this is also being found at Carahan now this is something that Howard Howard worked on and he kind of after after we

discovered the winter solstice alignment there he found the exact point exact moment of sunrise which is like only 10 minutes later does the stone head get illuminated at the exact moment of sunrise he found the angle is related to the golden section numbers as well so he thinks they may have been working with that in the landscape even in Tass Teple even in the Tepe-Karehan Tepe area and so he's finding all sorts of stuff but we must remember that this isn't just one era we're not just talking about the early Neolithic like Kerohan Tepe or the kind of classic Neolithic Bronze Age like we get Stonehenge

Abebury Carnac Brittany and so forth there's much earlier use of the solstice going back tens of thousands of years which we you know we can certainly get into I mean it's astonishing when he start digging into it and you realize that this goes beyond kind of trying to create a calendar so you can control your crops and cultivation things like this this is a whole different thing people had this kind of profound kind of connection with what was going on in the sky whether it was in the daytime with the sunrises and the movement of the sun during the day or at night time with the moon and the stars and the constellations shifting over the procession of the equinoxes it would have had a profound effect and they would have taken everything they could to record it,

but also honor it because they saw it as the realm of the gods. Fascinating. We've mentioned Carahan Tepe a couple times, so let's stick in Turkey now. You guys just had a tour in Turkey, went to Carahan. You went to Go Beckley-Tepe. And so let's talk about what you saw, what you're excited about. I know there's some new discoveries that were just on earthed at Carahan-Tepe. in that new enclosure at the top of the hill so tell us what you saw there yeah so this is uh carohan tepe this dates back to nine thousand four hundred bc it's like the sister site to quebecli tepe if people aren't aware of it it's only recently been excavated since late two thousand and nineteen

really kind of kicked off when we discovered the witness solstice thing in december 2021 but more even since then more has been excavated they're kind of going up the hill now you know this is what's happening they're and they're uncovering more and more and more and so what they found, they found one of the most impressive enclosures is right at the peak of the hill. And last year, or sorry, I think it was September, October, 2023, they discovered the seven and a half foot tall statue of man holding his phallus with ribs, this cool haircut, like a Moheacon, with a kind of sphinx-type kind of fake beard on him. And they found his stone plates, this vulture statue, this big hold stone, this huge enclosure.

But at the back of it, they've now started excavating like the backside of it, the kind of south side of it because the main is oriented to the north and what you know rather they just have benches and tea pillars going around the same level they kind of go up in steps so there's like a huge megalithic slab then a tepillar then up higher there's another huge megalithal there's a little bit then up higher another slab kind of go around the back so it's almost like you know going along with the contours of the hill but it makes it like hang on a sec this clearly, I mean, this is the perfect spot for an observatory, without a doubt. You know, this is it.

This is the spot. You know, it's the highest point of the hill. And they're rising up towards the back. And they can see all directions, but they're essentially looking north through the enclosure, just off north, north, northeast, I think. And the whole stone is aligned to that. And this is why Andrew Collins is so happy. Because all his research over the years, because hold stones and enclosures like that have been found at

Quebec Leitepe to the north, you know, in that direction. And it aligns with Deneb and Cygnus and things like this in the night sky, which was like the kind of portal to the other world after death, the Vulture, symbolism associated with that as well, with the Vulture statue, two and a half foot tall statue that was found there. So these huge platforms going on the back are really interesting. This is a whole new design spec we haven't seen in that part of the world at all. There seems to be large niches there as well, where statues, could have been. We don't know, you know, whether they found anything else or not. We'll probably find out in a couple of months, hopefully, but when we go back there in September

on our next tour that we're doing out there. And also, there's quite a few unusual kind of sort of blocks have been found with, like, strange kind of 3D reliefs on them. I'm including them in a video. I'm just working on now. Can I upload it very soon? And it's unbelievable what it's been a fact. I mean, just, you know, it's just the fact that there's still. doing it they're still trying to uncover it our only concern is that there's a roof starting to be built this month you know over Carahan Tepe like at Quebec Leitepe and this is if they created lots of holes around the edge to put foundations in and things like this so that's a concern because we're concerned

that will block the winter solstice disalignment we hope it won't for the plans we've seen it looks like it might not it might be okay but we are concerned because it kind of takes away some of the magic of the place. But the designs look a bit different to Quebec Leitepele. They look like they're a bit more fluid, a bit more kind of in, you know, kind of linked fitting with the landscape and they can be adapted and extended as excavations expand. But yes, I think there's concerns going on there, but there's also remarkable discovery still in the process of being made. I wanted to ask you about this artifact at Gobeckley-Tepe this always fascinated me.

I know you've probably seen it in person, but I follow Nicky Anna Jones. I've had her on the show and I've been on hers. She was sharing how when she went to this site with Jimmy and Michael Collins, not so long ago, that she did not see that anymore. So do you have any idea where that went? Is it just been moved? I know where it is

but it's unfortunate the answer really because as soon as they discovered it I mean I think within days they buried it in the same place and that's it's the end of that it's in the northwest enclosures basically it's not the southeast the main area

of excavation it's towards the northwest where there's another roof they put up and done barely anything with it but just next to that just to the right of that that's where it was found and there's a whole bunch of tea pillars and other such things but i know you mentioned nicky um and jimmy corsetti and mike collins wandering wolf they went out there in march and they did a bit of a kind of uh kind of investigation

really because they were looking at what was happening with the olive trees that have been dominating the kind of press thanks to jimmy's kind of focus on it and they cleared them all now they're not there i mean i said out to jimmy i checked give him a report back and i told them they've all gone they've removed virtually every olive tree and suddenly you're like oh It's the first time I've ever seen it without olive trees. I've been going there for, what, 11 or 12 years. And it's like, oh, my God, it makes you realize how much is still there, especially when you see the ground penetrator radar scans from 2014.

There's huge enclosures going all across there. Massive ones that are bigger than anything that's been discovered. So you mentioned that the stone, hopefully that will become exposed when they expand the excavations there. But I'm hoping, I know. Jimmy and others have been talking about there's a lot I've been in contact with them about this It seems to be this impression that there that more excavation is going to start because they realize they can't just sit on it anymore They kind of have to do something That's all very slow there there's reasons for that

But they could speed it up a bit I'm sure I'm not gonna why they don't When they realize what they got there So there are still things being done You know whatever anyone says that are still things been done. Carahan-Tepa, they're going like a full speed there. They're working hard at Sey Birch. A lot is being uncovered there. They've uncovered the whole main

enclosure there now. There's also there's work now being done on a cycle Jack Mack Tepe. There's another cycle Mendick Tepe. These are all kind of just south of Seibirch, which is all to the east of Shanlurfer. There's work

being done on Harbet Zoo Van Tepesi, which is near Karahan Tepe. And there's also Sephir Tepe. Now Sefeiatepe, Chakmac Tepe, Seyberch, they're all going to be open. People are hopefully going to be able to visit them this summer and going into the autumn as well. That's when we take our group back there in September. We're hopefully going to see all these.

I've been to most of them myself already. But there's also, Quebec Leitepe's always open. And Kerohan Tepe, even though they're building a roof, it's still going to be open to the public. So that's good news. So we were concerned, like we had at Quebec Leitepe, like seven or eight years ago, when they built the roof. They closed it for a year, but not a Carahan, Tepe, there's a different way of creating the roof. They might have to close it for a few days when the big stuff just comes in and is to be set up. But yeah, so that's relatively good news, but also I'm kind of quietly sighing, you know,

just a little bit stressed about the whole roof thing if it's going to block the alignment for the winter solstice. it's been well documented how Gobeckley-Tepi's rewriting history, right? Because it challenges all these long-hilled assumptions about development of human civilization, particularly the relationship between agriculture, religion, the rise of complex societies. So that's very interesting, Hugh. You said from what you can see, the Kerahan-Tepi excavations are going like full speed ahead, while we know, based on what you and Jimmy have documented, the Gobeckley-Tepe excavation seemed to have been going purposefully slow.

And at Gobeckley-Tepe, we've got these crazy artifacts like this one that I just showed on the screen, that you're telling me they buried. Isn't that why you think they're slow-walking the Go-Bekly-Tepepe excavations? Because it is turning the timeline of history upside down. And it's revealing these incredible artifacts that they're burying. Do you think that's got to be why they've slow walked to go back to the Tepe? That's a good question. I'm not 100% sure of the real answer to that.

There's a lot of speculation about it. I've tried to talk to the archaeologist, but they just won't talk to me or Andrew Collins for some reason. And I just don't know, really. I mean, I think that they've got a genuine conservation issue because this stuff is being exposed for the first time in like 10,000 years. So stuff can get stolen, stuff can get damaged, weather can affect it, you know, bird poo is affecting stuff.

At the moment, there's pigeons landing on tops of the tea pillars and pooing all over. And so there's things like this, you know, so you've got to like, they've got to consider all that. Plus the tourism thing as well. People hunt, you know, there's so many people going to Quebec. In fact, they're building there. Already, they're building a larger visitor center further away from the site, quite a long way from the site. It's going to be huge. And they're probably going to close down the ones at the site, just use them as basic things. You know, so, because you get thousands of people go there now. It's big, big time, you know, Quebec Leitepe is getting big. It's like 30 euros to get in, one ticket. So I'm hoping they're going to utilize what they earn from all that and actually put it into, serious excavation because there's whole areas they could just excavate. I mean, it's just open now.

Now all the trees have gone. But I think the big concern is preservation and making sure things don't get lost forever. So they have to go slow. That's for real. But they could go quite a bit faster as well. They could have moved that big double porthole stone you showed me. They could have moved out to the museum. I think they'd be much safer there than it would lying in the ground.

you know, rubble all over. Check out the screen. Look at this, how huge this incredible artifact is that's got two, looks like precision cut rectangles. I mean, you see the men there working on it. It dwarfs them. Why in the world would you bury this, but pull that wild boar out in other artifacts and display them in the museum, right? Or the tea pillars. That to me smells, that smells so fishy.

It's weird. I mean, if they kept the photo secret, it might have been smarter, but they became public. This was actually found under Klaus Schmitt's rule when he was there, quite a long time ago. Six feet wide, that stone, by the way. It's over six feet wide. It's got this beautiful kind of, kind of beast kind of emerging out of the rock, three of them, in fact, and a serpent and all these cut marks in it. beautiful framed windows in it as well. And it just makes you wonder, what on earth?

I mean, what else is going to be found there? I think that's the question. I mean, that's what we're all kind of waiting for. But I think we're going to find, you know, a lot more than we bargained for at these sites. Because this is a completely missing lost chapter of human history. This is what people don't realize. This isn't like just one stone circle. Each of the sites has 20 plus stone circles within them.

you know, this is what we're dealing with here. And they're now proving to be aligned to the solstices, to Deneb, Cygnus, to the moon and other such things. And I think, you know, just coming back to the solstice, I've even found a solstice, summer and winter solstice alignment. I think within Enclosure D at Quebec, Tepa, based upon one of the new discoveries that was made there last year, which is basically a certain specific part. It's like a section of a porthole stone with a big H on it, and one one's like a V turned on its side. The other one's like a C.

And the H, I believe, is a symbol related to the solstices. Something Martin Swetman put forward as well in this book prehistory decoded. And it kind of makes sense because you imagine you're standing behind the T pillars. You're looking at the two T pillars like that, with the horizon going like that, you've got an H. and so I think there's quite a basic understanding of what that could mean I mean I think there's other interpretations which are equally valid this is just one interpretation

and so that and where they found that stand is exactly on the winter solstice sunrise alignment as well and that would be between two outer tea pillars as well as the central ones as well like you get at Carahan-tepe so if that was a porthole stone the sun may have come through that on the winter solstice

and illuminated something at the back, i.e. the bore, most likely. Or Pillar 43 next to it as well, which has all sorts of symbolism. And so we can't really prove any of that because it's not being kept intact like Carrahan-Tepa was, thankfully. So you're able to prove that winner solstice alignment. And you can still go to see it today. Literally, if you go to Carrahan-Tepa on December the 20th to the 22nd, even 23rd, because solstice lasts for a few days, you'll see the face get illuminated if it's. if it's not cloudy simple as that so this is why it baffles me that it's not being recognized

by the archaeologist because this is a major major beautiful thing everyone can go and witness especially the one at carahan tepe because you can see it for yourself you know you can actually see the head get illuminated and the light moving around the head for 45 minutes so they can make a big deal out of that i mean that would like you sell you they get loads more people wanting to go there because they know it's connected and lying to solstice and things like that. So, yeah, that is worth, I want to push that into the archaeologist's brain that needs to be addressed. Yeah, I mean, Hugh, what's it going to take for you to get a time lapse video and break it

to the world yourself of the incredible light hitting that serpentine face? I've really done that. This is already out. It's all over the internet. The thing is, is that people, they think it's like a, like, like, you know, like, you know, For some reason, they don't believe it, even though it's an observable phenomenon. This was so baffling. No, I've got, we have time lapses.

We went there two years on the run. We spent a total of like six mornings there over two years. We will go back probably this year again just to have a look, but to see if the roof's blocking it or not. But the problem is that these sites, once they become official sites, you're not allowed to go in before 8am and things like this. So we've got to work around things like that. I'm looking to get official permission to go and observe it actually and record it. I think that's the next step because there's no other way to do it really, especially when it's just happening every year and people aren't taking it on board,

the archaeologist, the people building the roof, the government and things like this. Okay, yeah, I've seen your photos of the, you know, kind of time-lapse sequence, but I didn't realize you actually had video footage, so I have an idea for you. you can watermark it with your name on it Hugh Newman get me that video file and I will post it and tag you wherever I can and we'll

hopefully get it out to even wider audience you know Hugh Newman's discovery and JJ yeah yeah watermark both your names on it I'll help you push that out and we'll blow the damn open yeah I think that's a good idea I think it's a smart yeah smart move

so I think if they do build the roof and it ends up blocking it there's going to be a bit of an uproar in a few years time when they clearly know about it already. But yeah, thanks, thanks, Steve. I appreciate your support with that. Let's see what we can do. As we build up to the next solstice, the winter solstice,

we can kind of get more focused on that. I wanted to ask you about one more site in Turkey before we end talking about Egypt. Kavishti, the basalt inscriptions near Lake Vaughan. It looks eerily similar to Puma-Punku. I love the photos you posted. you guys in JJ there. This is in Turkey, but again, it looks so much alike what you see in Puma, Punku. And you just, you see the inscriptions, you know, deeply kind of embedded in these blocks.

Tell us about this. How old do you think it is really? And what do those inscriptions, what are they saying? This is very intriguing. This is Eratian script. When we go there, we meet the guy. He's been working there for like 30 or 40 years. and he's decoded the whole script basically.

It's basically like Sumerian cuneiform. It's Acadian is closer to than it's kind of Sumerian, if you know what to me. Because Acadians were in this area at some point, you know, a couple of thousand years, BC or whatever they were there. And it's very similar. So it's got this whole kind of similarity. So they're able to understand quite a lot of it. You find it at multiple sites, but Cavas-Tepa is one of the main ones. You get at a Janis Kalesi.

You get at a few other Uratian sites. I know Matthew LaCroix and others have been focused on that as part of their research. And for good reason, it's very, very interesting, people just don't notice it. They don't really know much about it. But we've been going there for several years on our Eastern Turkey tours that we do in September. We're going back this September, you know, people can come along, of course. But because these sites are like, you know, Matthew LaCrooy and others are making it big news. And I think it's going to people are going to wake up and realize there's something profound going on.

but when it comes to the actual translations, some of them are kind of like incantations to gods and goddesses and things like this, which you're getting a lot of these kind of inscriptions normally. They're not practical ones like you find in the kind of tablets, the clay tablets, they're more kind of trade and kind of day-to-day stuff. Whereas these are quite interesting.

And I haven't actually seen the full translations myself. I've got to get a Turkish book on it, which we've got to translate to get the translations. of the early text the kanea for but yes it's really really fascinating site and the stonework there is pretty astonishing but they're not huge blocks or anything but they're perfectly shaped they're like almost like lazered this is why it's so in caught so many people's attention and you get that a few of the sites in the area but kavis tepe is one of the main ones and it does look like the way they've been put together there's no mortar they're definitely sacred kind of precincts of the

sanctuary part of the site. They're not like kind of domestic or anything like that. And you have to question what's going on it because the dating on it, there's been big debates about this, but the official dating is only like 1,500 BC at the most. But people have claimed that older like Matthew LaCroix and others. More research needs to be done on that, in my opinion, because they're pretty firm with the dating. They have found stuff under the water in Lake Varn as well. So that could push the dates back. But what is another site of real interest is Van Castle.

Because around one edge of that, no one knows about this. We didn't even know about it until we actually saw it and got there. There's a giant, megalithic platform made of blocks probably 80 tons of piece. I made a video about this on the Megalithamania YouTube channel. We always go there on our tours, obviously. But this is like, what the hell? How did this even get? I mean, this is a different level.

This is ancient as well, super ancient. This is really different. It's massive. I mean, it's like a kind of Balbeck-type platform, but the stone is not quite as big. But what on earth is that doing there? And who put that there? It's believed it could have been a port going from the castle or the Colessi into Lake Varn many thousands of years ago. So you have that as well.

And so, yeah, there's quite a lot going on out there. But before we do finish, I just want to mention one thing about solstices, because we're on this theme of the solstice. It's this time of year. We're kind of in the solstice period now. One of the areas of research, which is really blind my mind, if we come away from Turkey, but I believe it relates to what's discovered at Carrahan-Tepa, are the Paleolithic caves of Europe in France,

the Dadoin area, also in Spain, El-Aimera and other places, where many of these clays and caves, including Lascao Cave, which is 17,000 years old, but also Shavak caves and others, they go back to 35,000 years, some of these. And through various French translations and research that has done over the years, and also Mike Swetman mentioned one of these alignments in his book Prehistory Decoded,

it's been worked out that many of these caves, they're chosen with long entrances that are aligned precisely to the solstices. Seriously, I mean, out of 130 caves that are investigated, 122 of them were aligned to the solstices or the equinoxes precisely. So the light, in some of the cases, the light would come in through the length of the cave and illuminate a part of the ceiling or wall where many of these paintings of these amazing animals and stars and everything else have been found.

And so there's a reverence to the solstice going back 30 plus thousand years. and so how an earth could they have come up with this? How could they have chosen specific caves that had these alignments? Is it a weird coincidence or is it something else? So that's something I'm getting into now. I'm actually going out there this year to go and investigate this, go into some of the caves and check out some of the orientations. Because some of the alignments are just, hang on a sec.

This is a whole different thing. And also in these caves, they found these fertility amulets, like these goddess figurines, these venuses they're called. Some of them are even carved onto the stonework in 3D relief, like you find at Quebec Leitepe and Kerahan Tepe. And so I believe there was something about solstices, caves, and going into these altered states on these times a year, and it would be like a mind-blowing thing.

And according to the research we've been looking at, these French researchers, they found that they weren't anything to do with calendars. They may have been because they found notches and timings of everything, but it's more to do with initiations, rights of passage, and rituals, activity at certain times of years. Often for the lifetime of the individual, this is based upon data collected through hunter-gatherer societies all over the world. They kind of related that to the Paleolithic people who were also hunter-gatherers, as were the initial builders of Quebecli-Tepi and Karahant-Tepa. So I think there's much more to the solstice than people realize.

It's not just sites like Stonehenge. It's not just Karahan-Tepa. All over the world, we have wild celebrations even today, like we find at the Inti-Ramey. He's all kicking off any day now in Peru. But even in these super ancient places, it was revered. and there's data collected. You can find these bone plucks, all these numbers,

sort of notches carved into them, counting the moon cycles and the solar year. And it was a real science in the Paleolithic time of the solstices. And so, you know, just want people to kind of realize that we're moving into this phase of the year, which has been revered for this long. And I think it's worth taking that on board

and feeling into that, as we go through the whole solstice period. Maybe it seems like you're hinting at your next book that's going to come out, and I have a title for it, Solstice Alignments in Cave Portals. And yeah, you mentioned the tunnel cave system that you found in Turkey. It was a couple years ago.

We talked about this on a previous episode. It was photos of you and Andrew, but it wasn't just a cave. It was like a megalithic lined curved tunnel, right? That was mind-blowing to see. I mean, basically, it's over 100 feet long. I think we miscalculated it the first time we put the length out. And it just goes down at a slope, like 40-degree slope or something.

And it's just completely carved out. It's like 12 feet wide, 8 feet tall. But it kind of staggers down. As you go down, it's thinner sections. And at the bottom, it turns right. But it's all blocked up with rubble, so you can't get to it. And that's right near, right pretty much within one of the Tastopoulos sites in that whole region. And, you know, so it's astonishing.

I mean, I'm sure the archaeologists will find it soon and they can kind of do some analysis of it. But yeah, I mean, that is just, it just shows you that there's still so much to be found. Is that tunnel something that you're going to take your tour groups into? No, you can't do that really nice. way too dangerous. Way too many spiders and rats probably as well. No. We're not allowed to say where it is.

That was the agreement with the kind of landowners. So we can't even give the location away, unfortunately, at this present moment. But they might all change because, like I say, lots more is going to get excavated over the next few years in that region. Hugh, this has been awesome. Let's end one more question. I haven't got to talk to you since the world news broke a couple months ago about the Coffrey Pyramid SARS scans.

I watched one of your recent videos on your megalithomania YouTube channel. Everybody subscribed to that. It was you. It was Andrew Collins and Biondi and the other guy that broke that or did the research for the Coffrey Pyramid scan. So I'd love to hear two things from you in closing. What's your latest thoughts on the whole Kaffir-a-Sar scan pyramid or controversy? And then we've got like new breaking news even of new Egypt, new discoveries in Egypt

where scientists alleged to have uncovered a second hidden city beneath the Giza pyramids. They say there's a shaft beneath Mincari, the smallest of the three great pyramids, that mirrors the 2,000-foot shafts that supposedly run below. Kaferi. All this while Zahi Hawas is saying these results are impossible. So what's your response? What are your thoughts on those

two things? Yeah, I think people have got to keep an open mind with this one. I think there's a lot of stuff going on in the background that people aren't aware of. There's data that hasn't been released yet. So just, you know, bite your tongue. Skeptics, you know, this is like

this could all kick off even more so. But yeah, I think the initial discoveries were fascinating. I encourage the authorities there to go and take a look, simple as that, even if it's like non-invasive, GPS stuff on the surface, you know, your little trolley things you roll around, just to see what's going on there. I mean, let's take it a step further. I mean, the water levels are an issue. You know, I had the privilege of going into the Tomb of the Birds with Andrew, something he discovered back in 2008, which leads directly to the central kind of middle pyramid,

Caffray's pyramid. And I'm meeting up with Armando May and Felipe Biondi here soon. We're at the Cosmic Summit. I'm also meeting them at the Gaiasphere event, which was that interview that we did, especially for Gaya TV. And they're coming over to England as well on November 1st

for our big origins conference. So, you know, I'm sure you put a link to that below. So people've got questions and, you know, just remember that this is a slow process of revealing and as more data gets analyzed. So it's going to keep unfolding.

And we look forward to meeting them in person and actually kind of finding out exactly what's going on. But there's even news now, Matt Bell, who does the Limitless podcast, he interviewed Zahirwas, and there's a funding, the whole project kicking off about something else in the Great Pyramid, another void discovered.

And so that's all happening as well. So I think, you know, it's all happening, basically. And I would love to see this SARS scan data, sorry, this SARS scan technology applied to the whole area around Southeast Turkey. Because there's more underground cities are being discovered. There's one found in Midiat. There's one found in Knoit. They keep finding them. We've found underground elements in the landscape.

That tunnel we kind of had a look at. There's underground elements, rooms at Seberch and other places. So I guarantee there's going to be a whole lot more found there. if we can apply that technology to that area, I think that would be really, really interesting to see where that goes. Hugh, let's close with Tell Everybody about your upcoming tours and about you've written so many books now. I can't even mention them all, but what are a couple of books that everybody must get and read

of yours? Well, this is the latest, this is the American edition of the Quebec Leitepe, Carrihan Tepe book. It's all updated. It's got all the new stuff in it as well. Let's just come out in America a couple of months ago. Obviously we've got the English version that's been out a year or so. Working on a bigger version of that. But I'm going to be, if people want to get copies of that,

I'm going to be at the Cosmic Summit. I think it's 20th, 23rd of June in Greensboro, North Carolina. Amanda May, Felipe, Bionde, a ton of cool speakers are going to be there. I'm also at the Gaiasphere Ancient Civilization event on the 9th, 10th of August in Colorado. and we're running our November conference in England, the Origins Conference on the 1st of November. We've got some cool people there, Robert Temple. We've got the guy who did the research on Blickmead, David Jacks,

and obviously the team, myself, JJ and Andrew and others as well. And also, we're going to be running a tour back to Turkey in September 9th to the 21st, focusing on Eastern Turkey, some of the sites we spoke about, in fact, today. that's the kind of big next thing we're kind of really doing we've got jim viera he's coming over for our england tour in the summer and we're heading out to peru actually and bolivia and eastern island in november i know you've just recently been there looks like you're an amazing time and yeah we've got a few things lined up for next year like malta island um uh yeah egypt and a few other places so yeah lots going on people can just find me hugh newman search for me

or megalithomania.com.com. So it's all out there. So go to megalithomania.co.com. UK, click on the tours section to see their whole upcoming tours. Go on a tour and get one of Hughes books. There's a book tab. He's got some of the best books out there.

If you're into ancient history, alternative history, solstice alignments, giants. We can't forget that. We didn't even really get to talk about giants. But Hughes done some of the history. the best research on the subject of ancient giant so Hugh thank you so much for your time everybody says subscribe to the megalithomania youtube channel and Hugh have a great summer and we'll see you soon. Thanks so much day appreciate it let's catch up soon