Megalithic Marvels - Unearthing the Truth Concerning the Nazca Tridactyls / Ed Casas

Episode Date: July 20, 2025

In 2015 a strange discovery shocked the world when an alleged three fingered humanoid mummy was unearthed somewhere near Nazca, Peru. Possessing strange eye sockets, an elongated skull and three fingers, it quickly mesmerized hopeful believers. However, as time passed, interest in the controversial mummy faded. But then in 2024, Mexican journalist and UFO enthusiast José Jaime Maussan, presented half a dozen more of these alleged “alien mummies” to Mexico's congress, and a firestorm of interest in the topic erupted again. The million dollar question most are asking concerning these specimens is: are they genuine hybrid entities or were they part of an elaborate hoax? In this episode, I sit down with Ed Casas -a researcher and self-proclaimed Xenoanthropologist who has dedicated his life to the science behind these tridactyl beings found in Nazca. Pulling from his years of exhaustive research studying these enigmas, Ed breaks down why he believes these strange mummies are in fact... real. Follow Ed Casas here: Website, X, Youtube, RedditJoin me on an upcoming tour HERE

So in this episode, I am joined by Ed Cassis, a former archaeologist, and xenopologist, dedicated to the science behind the tridactal beings found in NASCA, otherwise known as the NASCAR mummies. Ed, how are you, man? I am great. Thank you so much for having me today. This is fun. Yeah, we've been following each other on X, Twitter, and I've really enjoyed your posts. Man, last couple of months, especially. as the NASCAR mummy discussion has been revived due to new findings and media. You say revived, but it's been a living, breathing thing for almost two years for me.

Yeah, and I'm excited to get into that. And then I think you saw my interview with Will Brown. Yeah, I've been following Will. Yeah. Yeah. And so you message me, hey, I'd love to share some of my information on this fascinating subject. And so I was more than excited to hear that. So welcome, Ed.

You are the owner, creator of the website, tridactals.com. Correct? Dot com. Yeah. So everybody go there, bookmark it so you can see later everything we're talking about today. Also follow Ed on Twitter X at Tridactals, T-R-I-D-A-C-T-Y-L-L-S. And then he's also on YouTube. so follows YouTube page.

But Ed, tell us a little bit about your story. You've got quite the pedigree. Tell us to tell everybody kind of where you're coming from, and how did you go down this rabbit hole of the tridactals? Well, I mean, I do want to say that the image is behind me, just so since we're giving shoutouts, is from courtesy of tridactals.org. And this is the actual medical files that they've allowed me to,

and I can just real quick, we're talking. How about that? I could even just give you just everyone a clearer view of these. Tradactals.org are very kind enough to share these with me. I have used them for research. I do believe I have found several discoveries through that. So I do want to give a shout out for them. I feel like I have to, you know, I have to tell my Peter Parker origin story a little bit if you don't mind. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, even as a kid, I would devout. the dictionary, the the thesaurus, the myth section of the encyclopedia. But eight or nine years old in the front yard in Bridgeport, Pennsylvania, in the ground,

in the earth, I pulled out a little Egyptian shabdi, a little blue turquoise, fiance-looking mummy, sarcophagus thing. Now, was it really ancient Egyptian? Probably not. It was probably someone's souvenir. but nonetheless, I think it jarred something in this brain of mind to suggest that real discoveries, real adventure can happen. It's not just something you see on television.

And I've only really sort of come to that conclusion about that little story recently, like, oh, because from there, the journey did continue with my dear Aunt Maggie would take me to Native American museums in upstate New York. York where I learned to appreciate other cultures. Her aunts gave me the time-life books of anthropology and primates and early men, all these wonderful things. And, you know, this was around the time that Leonard Nimoy's In Search of was on. And that Patterson Bigfoot, Bigfoot video was on. And my mother said it was fake. But after having those early man books in my hand and looking at pictures of gigantic, pithicus, I sort of thought that maybe this too was possible.

And so maybe there was a time as a kid that I just really started to develop an academic but alternative viewpoint. So fast forward, high school, I'm skipping high school. Where am I going? I'm going to the Natural History Museum. That's where I'm going for my days I skip, right? I think that says a lot too. Or I'm in the back of the class reading books.

But what classes that I really excel at? Social studies, history, all of that. Years later, in the late 90s to 2000, I started doing some acting. So when I went to college, I'm like, oh, do I really want to major in drama? And I looked at the course selection and it seemed very, very boring, very dry. I'm like, why don't I major in something I like? And perhaps I'll parlay that degree into teaching later on, which I did. So 2002.

I applied to FAU, Florida Atlantic University for my anthropology degree. My parents were like, what are you going to do with that degree? I said, I don't know. Work at a museum? Well, don't you know, within the semester starting, I did get a job at the Graves Museum of Archaeology and Natural History in Dania Beach. I do have just since I mentioned that name, let me go ahead and just show you the facade of that building.

There we go. And so this dinosaur is still there on the building. And so this was the Graves Museum of Archaeology and natural history. And there I started as a volunteer. And I was just doing the tours for the kids and doing the classrooms where we would have hands on fun activities. We'd have the kids digging through cat litter looking for fake fossils. Or we would have felt mummies where we would take the organs out

and put them in little little jars, little Coptic jars. I think I know why we were doing that. If I was a kid, that would be incredible. So how fun was that to work in a museum? Now, I never really thought I would do archaeology. But it turns out, what do you know? There was plenty of opportunities.

I performed archaeology with multiple entities. A private firm called Janus, named after the Two-Face God. There's another weird connection there, right? Everything's connected. Gary Biter, who was the elite archaeologist for Miami Dade, and he took me. We did a walking survey of the famed Miami Circle, a large stone circle with supposed carved, I don't know what they were calling them, sort of mortar and pestles into the ground there,

at least half of that, right? Yeah, check out that, everyone, the Miami Magic Circle. Miami Circle. I guess it could be magic. Is that something? Can I, Ed, real quick, is that kind of like Rockwall in Texas? Are we talking something similar like that? Well, it's definitely, you know, it's on a small peninsula, if you will, near the Miami River. So logically, that's probably going to be a point for people who are engaged in marine activity, right?

So there is that. But it's a, I mean, it looks like it was a sinkhole. So whether the Native Americans found the sinkhole interesting themselves and perhaps utilize the area or it just happened to be there. And again, this sort of natural area where they could use the ground to pound their whatever they were pounding. It could be anything, I guess. So yeah, definitely checked that out, Miami Circle. So we were there with a Russian geologist looking at it. So just, you know, those moments, it's in my mind.

It's like as a little documentary. You know, and when I was working for Janice, they had me, okay, go choose a site to dig in. And I'm like, well, there's a tree island over there. And I know the natives of Florida would use the tree islands because everything would flood, right? So we went to the tree island. And while it was my turn to sift, because you shift between one guy digging, one guy's sifting. And on my sifting, I pulled out a white shirt projectile point of white quartz. Let's fast forward.

that is really that is my my background later i did teach at a private high school i taught history and so let's fast forward so uh first like anyone else these nasca mummies came across my google feet and i dismissed them like everyone else i'm like yeah okay you got another fake alien because how many sort of fake aliens have we seen over the years and autopsies and everything else right So I too dismissed it. My girlfriend was like, well, why don't you check these out? Have you seen these? And I'm like, well, okay.

And then we started to see there was a little bit more to it, wasn't there? There was Dr. Zousey Benitez of the Mexican Navy, their lead forensic officer, giving a testimony to his nation's Congress. Now, in my opinion, why the skepticism didn't end right? then and there. And so that's why I do feel there's a little bit of Dunning Kruger involved or this sort of

third world prejudice because why are we ignoring the testimony of the lead forensic anthropologists of the Mexican Navy? You know, what does he have to gain? And, you know, now there's

suggestions that perhaps he was even arrested over it. I don't know the drama on that. I do know that I have, appreciated what he had to say. But then also when I got to read Cliff Miles report, now he's a paleontologist from Canada. Right away, as we're speaking here, we've got two different countries involved, don't we? We have Mexico and we have a gentleman from Canada. You're talking to me from Florida, USA. So I read his report. Now, keep in mind working for the museum, I worked closely with Bobby DePama. Bobby DePama is a paleontologist prodigy.

famous for being on Attenborough's BBC because he has suggested he has found the C.T. Cretaceous tertiary extinction line within the earth and the time period based on these, I believe they're aluminum sphericals. So the metal, I guess impact from an asteroid when it hits, it turns things into tiny metal sphericals. So him and his team have found those. So I helped him, we flew it in New Jersey, like of all places. of New Jersey Shores for a dinosaur expo, and we were the only team that had the real fossils. Everyone else had super cool, giant feather-covered, you know,

raptors and whatnot. But we had the only real stuff. And so I got to like climb into these crates and heave up triceratoph skulls. And I have worked in our lab. I've worked in the lab, both labs, for archaeology and paleontology. So that might be another unique thing about me. Not only am I a former archaeologist, but I've been a paleotaphs. and who else is with those credentials looking at these mummies.

So I do hope for there's a little bit of, there should be a little bit of trust me, bro, in this. There should be. And what I tell people too, it's like, okay, well, don't trust me, but I can't spoon feed everyone all the information. So a lot of people are just like, nah, not true. Or they dismiss what I say, you've got to look for this stuff yourself like I did.

And when I read the paleontology report, you know, I knew people like this. I'm like, I know anthropologists. I know paleontologists. So when I read that, that was even more enlightening. I'm like, oh, here's somebody who I can appreciate their background, giving me a lowdown. Now, a lot of his work, what people don't know, was gleaned from Glecki and Kortikov, which is the Russian team. So you see, automatically, we're already starting off this with multiple teams.

And not once have I mentioned, I'm a son. which for some reason when his name gets mentioned it turns out science is thrown out the window because sure because he might be a bad guy yeah there might be a lot of bad guys involved yeah it seems like his name overshadows the subject a lot you know because if all his stuff with the UFO research it's like because his name is involved with these nut mummies and then they're almost ignoring these, like you're saying, these highly educated, top of their fields of minds in Canada and elsewhere.

But were you saying in a nutshell that the main researcher, what was his name who was in the Navy from Mexico? Jose Zalsis Benitez. And you were saying he's their top mind, and he believes in a nutshell that some of these are real, correct? Yeah, I mean, part of his whole presentation to his, his Congress was focused on the small ones. You know, the small ones got pushed away

partially because there are two supposed dolls. And so the dolls are the small size. So I think many of the researchers were like, let's focus on what I call like the 30 thirds, the one-thirds hybrids. Let's focus on Maria, who has 33% primate. We can work on that and demonstrate that this is 33% primate.

real. I'm, of course, more interested in the smaller ones, which based on Victoria are 3% primate. And so what's great about having these two specimens plus the earlier basil, what I call a basil specimen, the they call them insectoids, they're not insects, the ones with the ridges, the suyer types. What's great about having all of these is you can see that there's the same genus with clearly different variations of amount of primate DNA. So I'm expecting Sueyay to have zero percent and people are going to say that's it. That's our, they're going to probably try to call it an alien. I don't think it's an alien necessarily.

I think it's what I call instead of an extraterrestrial, an er terrestrial. As an erer sumer, they've been here forever. My, you know, my, my theory is called the constant companion theory. for everybody watching listening if you're new to the subject check out my previous episode with will brown on the same subject for a little background but then for even those who aren't able to see that or didn't add just give us a little nutshell background the first of these so-called nasca mummies were discovered around 2017 and i think wasn't maria probably earlier probably 2016 and beyond before, yeah.

Yeah, it's interesting how long. We're talking these things that have been kicking around for almost 10 years, and I'm here talking about it like it's brand new, you know. Yeah, I recall how we got a little distracted because I was talking about, we were talking about the professionals involved. So I just wanted to paint a picture of other professionals before we do move on of Mexico, Canada paleontologists, Russian medical team. and at this point myself in Florida because I've done enough research to at least know what I'm talking about.

So yes, so these were found by Waukerro Grave Robbers. They were found with metal artifacts, some writing, which one of the writings I suggest might be the Vinci script, which is a early European script that shows their clay vessels are very, non-human looking. So we should definitely, if you're not familiar with those, that's spelled like VINCA, like V-I-N-C-A. So there was script there. I'm guessing it might be Vinci.

It could be something different. Who knows? And it's just the parade of bodies keeps coming out. So they started by showing us, I think it was Clara and Mauricio. I think they're in the hands of a private collector. So they had brought some of these,

the theories I mean, who is a sort of adventurer looking for lost cities of gold, in South America. He's all in the up and up, and he's all about science. He's all about taking care of Peru's patrimony. He wants to make sure that the mummies and the artifacts stay in Peru. And I think as a general rule, yes, you know, I think it's time to repatriate everything, everything. Give it back. Make your own museum of your own stuff. If we have Egyptian stuff, give it to the Egyptians. That's just my opinion. Moving forward, so Theory started working with the local university.

And so there's another website that's really important because they're kind of like the precursors to all this. And that's the dash alien dash project.com. And that's where your guests can interact with Theory and his team's CT scans. And they're 3D and you can move around them. You can reduce the layers of the skin and muscle and just see the bones or just see the metal implants. So these two little bodies were brought before the Mexican Congress. I'm not sure how much information I have even before that.

Definitely read Theories book I have. It does paint some stories of these Wacheros. These are crazy stories. Wacheros that are going through these underground, they're calling them citadels, so cities are underground tunnels. and encountering these beings and engaging in violence with them. So you're saying these are legends, these are legends of from the ancient days?

No. In theory's book, the Wacheros claimed to have encountered the beings and exchanged fire. Supposedly, two of the, now again, this sounds like crazy myth.

Maybe they use this to scare people away, like the old Scooby-Doo cartoons. Right? Soikes. But supposedly one guy had a craving for, this sounds like complete fantasy. One guy had a craving for salt and eventually died. And I was just like, salt.

That felt a little too close to the whole phenomenon to me. But that's... No, but you are saying in this book, he's basically saying that the walk heroes have been down in the subterranean chambers, tunnels and they're saying they're seeing live beings. Yes. Live beings, after all my research, seems to be, I've never seen one. So it does seem like a possibility if all these indigenous people have these stories,

if we have modern people talking about their abduction stories, and if you follow my whole constant companion theory, that means they've always been around and they're probably still around. And your constant companion theory, since you bring that up, just tell us what that means real quick before we move on. Yeah, sure. It's just that it's sort of the phrase, we were never alone. So, and again, I don't want to jump ahead too much of the science and the archaeology, but evidence demonstrates in the archaeological record and in our cosmological narratives, our mythology, our religion, right? We call other people's religion's myths now.

That's a myth. What I believe is right, right? These all lead to evidence that these beings have always been here. So I think we were on about, I was trying to just catch us. We were kind of going through a chronology, but I didn't really get involved until Zalsai gave that testimony. And until I read Cliff Miles, the paleontologists analysis of Gullochie and Coraleky and Korakov's previous work. And that's when I was able to start formulating my own theories.

But what finally, what happened within days was, I said to myself, I know what they are. I recognize the beings. Now this is again where the story, forget that story about these guys interact with these beings. This is my own personal story. And this is the truth as it is,

which is I recognize the beings from Petroch, from a 2002 archaeology class. In fact, not only did I recognize them, but oddly, I remember asking my professor. Now, can you imagine remembering a question you asked your professor from 20 years ago? Why would I even remember that? I remember asking my professor, hey, these guys with the, well, I probably didn't say tridactals right back then. These guys with the three fingers and these heart-shaped faces, I probably even say

heart-shaped either, with these big round faces, they look. just like the ones in the Caribbean amongst the Taino. So the bellicula of Canada, petroglyphs to me looked like the ones of the Taino. And my professor said, I know, I asked him, is there any relation? And he said, no. They're too far apart in time and space. And this is what confuses archaeologists many times about, I think, this phenomenon and this one incident.

So he suggested that even though my cursory knowledge suggested that these two art forms were the same. You said they weren't related. So they call that in archaeology independent innovation. So that's suggesting that all over the world, when you see bows and arrows, that each people in that particular continent independently came up with that idea. That's a complex idea, in my opinion, to make a bow and arrow.

There's a lot that goes into that. So we've dismissed all of this as independent innovation. What I'm suggesting is that these beings are evident of what's called hyper diffusion. So the reason that our myths are the same is, and that's another thing they use for independent innovation, right? Well, the myths are the same because, well, humans just develop like that. They just come up with these things.

And I don't believe that anymore. What we're seeing is hyperdiffusion. So there's cultural traits that are being moved around the planet. I recognize these beings. And that's when it became personal. I recognize them and I remember asking that question. You recognize these beings from petroglyphs that you saw that were featured in what part of the world? Belakula Canada and the Taino people of the Caribbean.

And these petroglyphs are of three-fingered humanoid-looking beings? Yes. And more so, yes. Because also, and I meant to ask Will about this, and I forgot, so I'll ask you, the three-fingered supposed petroglyphs near Nazca. Is that directly related to these? Yeah. Yeah.

The Pyracus culture has like hyper-realistic, almost cartoon-like depictions of the beings. I mean, these are people that, that means those artists, you can, I can tell at least, I think I can tell. The artist, that means that artist had firsthand contact with them. What happens through time is in human, this is my analysis, what happens through time is, as the beings leave an area, they fade into myth. And maybe we still see them here and there. But they're no longer the creator gods that are ancestral beings that we thought they were. So they become dwarves.

They become mermaids and centaurs. And they fade away. What's great about the Taino people and the Maori, which will be my next segue of New Zealand, is those two regions of the world were two of the last places to be colonized by humans and two of the last places to be colonized by Europeans, which means the original culture, the original artifacts are still intact.

You know, when it came time for research, I didn't even, I did cursory research in Peru. I was already aware that there was strange things in Peru, and I was, you know what, you know what, there's going to be people that are going to be covering that anyway. So I ran forward from the Caribbean and Bella Kula, to my next big revelation, was the Maori's Haitiki, which if you've seen

the Haitiki, it's a little greenstone, three-fingered being with a cordiform shaped head. Now, what I say this is just as important, if not more so, than the three fingers, is the depiction of the superorbital arches. The superorbital arches, I'm thinking they're getting it from our father's side, meaning I think this is a chimpanzee, this is an ape primate structure that they inherit. If you look at the smaller ones with the eminences on the back, you'll see that they don't have these super orbital arches that the smaller ones have. So what I think part of my research is the heart shape. So those petroglyphs were found in association with water spirals. spirals insinuating water, serpentine symbols, and more importantly, mother goddess symbolism.

So mother goddess symbolism will either be a stick figure giving birth or maybe a stick figure with a child, another smaller image below them depicted. And so here we go from these petroglyphs of mother goddesses to the Maori and their hey tiki, which they call. an ancestor being. Now this has choked me up before because I've looked at my little model here of Josephina's head and I've stared at this and I've said

why would they think that as an ancestor unless it was. So you would think that that would be enough information for, but no, that just sent me off further and so now there are entire artifact complexes. A lot of

people know about the dogo of the I knew of Japan, a Stone Age people. Their clay representations seem to be hyper-realistic. So when I say hyper-realistic, I'm suggesting their artists are probably eyewitnesses to these beings. They haven't faded away. The what's called the Permian Bronze Culture or Permian Bronze Animal Style shows little hammered metal pieces that shows tridactal beings in familial units.

the Syrian eye idols, which are little stone what they call fertility symbols. So we have fertility symbols, mother goddesses, ancestor imagery, and then even on Easter Island, where we all know of the great Moai, but there's a cave there, and thanks to that gentleman on, I can't remember his name. Oh, boy. The one guy who travels around it, he talks about the naval statues, which are, I still think is a tridactal phenomenon,

statues with their hands on their stomach. But there's a cave there, and in the cave are those cordiform-shaped faces, those heart-shaped faces, and those are related to creator beings. So we have creator beings, mother goddess, ancestor, fertility symbols. Do you see the theme? Do you see what the ancients are telling us, time and time again? Yeah, if somebody had a gun to my head and they were saying, prove to me that these NASCA mummies are legit.

To me, one of the things I would probably blur it out is the NASCA petroglyphs located in the same area that show ancient beings with three fingers. That's one of the things I think you have to look at with an open mind. But now let's really get into all the scans, all the data you've observed. I want to know more about the metal implants. The one looking, it's almost like the gold artifact in the one mummy's head. The possible fetus. Does it have three fingers?

Like, blow us away with why you're a believer. We have to keep in mind that one of the first discoveries of the little ones. Now, again, my favorite is the little ones because they're less primate. And so it's more interesting to me. Um, hey, can you break that down for us real quick? Um, for those again who are kind of new to the subject, tell us about the DNA and the primate strands and why the big ones have more and the little ones have less. So we're, these are based on two types, which is Maria, which is here. So Maria is said to be 33% primate. So that's 30% human and 3% chimpanzee.

with the biologist Rangel suggesting that not only that, but she has Han and Myanmar DNA, which was no surprise to me from the very beginning, I suggested that mythologically speaking, the best codified explanation of these based on ancient beliefs is the Naga of India and the dragon of China. The dragons are not beasts. They are dragon men. There are beings. So, when I heard, there's a lot of these things that come out, I get, I'm just not shocked.

And it's like, oh, Han and Myanmar, yeah, that makes sense. Because in Myanmar, these people still practice neck extensions to look like the dragon mother. I mean, it's like right in our faces. And this is the beauty of this. I try to explain to people that the tridactals have allowed me and it should allow others to re-look at everything, open your minds, and let's start piecing this together. And I try to just give everyone breadcrumbs. Some people think, like, I woke up one morning and be like, you know what, I bet you

these are the Naga. There's certainly more to it than that. My whole tracing of these cultures, you know, we stopped at the Maori, was that the cultures kept leading back to Asia as a sort of motherland. And so for her to have that, and of course she has two different types of chimps. She has both Pan and Bonobo. Now there are some people suggesting that, you know, the hand is a, you know, a contamination. And the chimpanzee is a misread.

But to me, again, I feel like the archaeology is predicting the biology. So I don't get hung up on these sort of negative maybes. I have too many positives that lead me in other directions. It's up to everyone else to put together their own sort of narrative. I mean, just looking at this scan is just crazy to behold. Clearly, there's no way this scan is a fake. It's highly detailed. You can see through the whole body.

Yeah, look at that ribcage. It's almost like a barreled rib cage of a chimp. That's the other thing I suggest. And there's another specimen that has this crazy trapezius setup. And I'm like, ooh, that's scary to me because that looks like some. bull ape, Nick. And yeah, when you go back to the front view so I can see those hands again right there, I mean, you got these huge fingers, three of them, and you believe that's, you know,

that wasn't fused on later. Well, that's what's funny too, is that everyone that, you know, I get it. You're the first, I call it Occam Spork, that you think that the easiest answer is the answer, you know, despite evidence. And so Occam Spork is going to be like, oh, well, they cut off two fingers. You know, there's some guy sitting on his couch. Yeah, they obviously caught off two fingers, right? Yeah, okay, we could think like that. And maybe I can't tell if they did or they didn't because I'm not a doctor. But what I can see is that these have an extra phalangee. So now you're suggesting, and there is a biologist. And, you know, I'm like, well, how do you think the extra philangee?

And he's like, well, they just kind of just shoved it in there. That was his expert, So these, well, we have, right, we've got one, two, three, four fingers, right? Four phalanjis. These guys have five. So she's 33% according to the DNA. And then we got these little ones. Number four is a little one, which is only one feet tall. It's missing its head. And I think I know which head is its. And I think I know which head is it. And I think, think the researchers do too. I've told people that I suggest this specimen is the most important specimen, most important individual in the history of mankind. That's a big statement. I go full,

like, you know, I can always apologize later. You can always prove me wrong later, and I will, I will put my tail between my legs, and I will put out a statement. But for now, that's what's funny is that there, there's so many of these other guys out there, they're super conservative about it. Not me. I'm going to tell you what I think I've found. And when I say I've worked on this two years, that means I don't, I haven't had a proper job. I've had the benefit of being able to wake up at nine in the morning and start the process of researching. So definitely read some of my papers online. These are not just, I didn't write them, you know, at the bar, a bar stool. They're not peer reviewed and they're not published. I guess they still could be. But to me, it doesn't even mess.

matter. The point is to get my thoughts out there and for people to read it. So this is number four. I also call it the seated God because it seems to be a motif. If you look at some of my work, I suggest that ancient Chinese script actually depicts this being sitting down and losing its head. Note too that this being that the left knee is, excuse me, its right knee on the left is taller than this knee. here. This hip is damaged so much so that the top part of the Ilium here is cut off. So here you can see the, we can zoom in a little bit too here. So we're looking at some tridactal butt. And right here, we're missing the top of the hip bone. But what's interesting is that this other leg seems to have grown back very, very, very, um,

strongly? What's the word I'm looking for? So yeah, what I wanted to get into, I think we switched lanes a little bit, is that supposedly these beings don't have lungs. So right away, when I saw that I had three fingers, and if supposedly it doesn't have lungs, do you know what that says about them? Tell us. We'll always see if you could guess. That these are likely amphibians with cutaneous respiration. So while some people may cite, the skeptics will cite, there's no organs, there's no lungs, it must be fake. Likely, likely not. Likely these beings are what I call proto-amphibians. I don't want to call them amphibians because they have a lot of traits that are unusual. Let's start with, Victoria is great for this, by the way. So the little ones have

and I don't think the big ones do. A fused interclavicle. So at Thanksgiving, you would call this the wishbone. It's the furcula. And the museum I worked at was actually one of the early museums to welcome a traveling furcula exhibit off of a raptor, which was the early days of demonstrating that birds, of course, evolved from dinosaurs.

So we had that interesting trait there. And then we have these interesting abdominal bones, they call gastralia which are found in some dinosaurs and in modern crocodilans and that is important they suggest of course there's no head on this one that the neck extends and note that the forearms are singular bones we're calling those like what we call are those umias i think they're called so there's single single lower leg bones and single lower arm bones. Yeah, again, thank you, Gonzalo at tridactals.org. They know I've been working really hard,

and so they had given me early access to this. And, you know, one of the other things I've suggested to the researchers, they've noted that the beings, including Maria, has their lower spinal bones are fused. So since it looks like Victoria spent some time hobbled, And with that robust bone growing on the right leg, it sort of implies that maybe these beings go through a regeneration process, which would make sense because of what I suggest is their proto-mphibian nature. The metal pieces that people refer to, what's your theory on that? Okay.

So this is from one of the big hands. I know I had said that there was a specimen with a ring. And for my damnness, I think it might be on Ed Garda. And Ed Garda, it was, she was studied by the, or he. That's the other thing about these beings. I think they're probably hermaphroditic, which, again, is something amphibians go through. So we're going to have these, likely they're sequential hermaphrodism and hermaphroditism. And that's partially from mythology when you hear of tales of Loki becoming pregnant or

when Set became pregnant a supposed gold disc appeared on Set's head. So this piece supposedly has chromium. I haven't seen a metal report that it actually says chromium. I know this is a point of contention because chromium requires a large scale industrial process to make a small amount.

But perhaps even more interesting is the iron which is not a typical metal used in the Americas. That is a European thing. which between that, the Venture script, and I think didn't even some of the larger skulls, you might know more about this, some of the larger skulls come back with some European hits.

What we call the naturally elongated skulls of Prakas have been traced back to the Black Sea in the Crimea region. That's why I feel like, man, we've got to look at these NASCAR mummies with a very open mind because we already have, what I believe is 100% genetic proof of anomalies all over Peru with the elongated skull parochus, you know, humanoids. You've got, and where people, like you said, you might have one fake mummy, you know, mixed in with a bunch of possible real ones. And so they want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. They do the same thing with the elongated skulls, which is a huge point of research for me.

And yes, there's hundreds and thousands of cradle headboarded skulls all over, as I say all the time, because I believe the general population is trying to appear like the elite ruling class who had the natural elongated skulls with no sagittal sutures and 30% more cranial volume. Cradle headboarding can't magically create more. That's also, that's the same number they have for Maria, if I'm not mistaken. Really? On the cranial size. Yeah. And then when I get into, you know, with all my trips to Peru and I'm getting deeper into the ancient Andean legends and even the Inca's own legends, you know, the Inca worshipped the Malkies.

They're mullies. They're humanoid mummies. Even in the, you know, 14th century, 1500s, they would pull out their mummified mummies with elongated schools and put them in the walk-up. and on the solstice days, their own legends say these would basically telepathically speak to them. Ooh, groovy. And that's why there's, in a lot of the mummies, you see a hole in the top of the head.

And the Inca state that when the beings were alive, they were surgically attaching golden artifacts to help them communicate. Wow. With the gods. All that to say, it all seems like it flows so closely. with the NASCAR mummy. It is. It is what it is. This is the explanation for much of our cosmology.

This is the sort of missing link. Yeah. So it's funny sometimes. I think I even contacted Mr. Brian Forrester. I've tried, I've definitely tried to make alliances when I could here and there. But at the end of the day, it's really, it's just me. You know, my help from tradactals.org is they've allowed me access. You know, it's funny too when I made my website, my web designer is like, I named Cyberlinks.

Do you want tradactals.com or you want dot org? I said, you know what? I'm the fun social science guy. Give me dot com. Let's save.org for the researchers. About a year or so after, what do you think happens? Tridactals.org is there. And so I even gave some insight on the landing pages motto there.

And who's tridactals.org? Who's that one run by? That's Gonzalo Chavez. He's a programmer. And he's in close with the Mexican team and some and Joyce, the Peruvian newsmaker. So journalist. So we've got about, oh, 15 minutes left. Wow.

Hit us with everything. This has been a fascinating talk. I love what you're sharing. Hit us with everything else you got to make people consider. that these are real like you believe. Again, my personal discoveries here is that I suspected that these beings would have a third eye, and I based that on cultural representations,

whether it was in oceanic art or even Hinduism, when they paint their ticas and whatnot on their heads. And I note that these beings have this, I also gave this part the name too. I called this the Kappa. I gave it a name specifically, Because it helps dispute the supposed llama theory. In the llama theory, their llama skull, which, by the way, is missing the back half.

No one ever talks about that. Where does that go? How does it fit into your whole paradolia here? Their sageal crest goes right from the top and goes right to the supertile orbital arches, right to there. Well, if that would happen, you would lose the kappa here, which is actually an area of pneumatic bone, where I suggested that's probably where the third eye would be when they revealed the sagittal scans and the superior scans on the alien project.com

lo and behold, there it was the third eye parietal gland. I knew they were going to have it and there it is. So if you want like damning science, I think that's it. The only problem is I haven't had any other medical researchers disprove or prove. So we can still say I'm sort of in,

limbo and what is this? We don't know. That's what people are the people to say, well, we don't know. And they sort of give up to this unknown. It's a very strange phenomena, I know. I'm not about that. I'm about, let's find out, you know, I'm as an anthropology major, and a whole gig is like coming up with an explanation why we do things. And now I feel like I've found a lot of information why we do things.

Okay, so that's the penial gland. I think that's super important. And then I decided to take the liberty of naming some of the specimens I found because I've located what I suggest are tridactal larva. Now that's just their faces. So that might be a little hard sell for some people. So let me try to give you some more physical forms. So here's a side view of the same one in Artemis that I suggest is. emerging from an egg. Now, these things might even, I saw it looks like eggs within eggs.

So these things might be born pregnant, making them the sort of perfect sort of what I call genesis taxon. So if they're hermaphroditic, if they can give birth via parthenogenesis, which we know Komodo dragons can do, and if they're somehow born pregnant, well, that's fascinating. You have the perfect, perfect species for populating a planet. So this is a side view of a head. You should be able to see right here is what I call the temporal bone. It's a big triangular bone. We have the lower jaw there, the mandible, super orbital arches.

Oh, I'm sorry. Super orbital arches, the temporal bone and a jawbone. So just now I've showed you three different larval forms in three different eggs. in two different specimens. What I suggested was why I was able to find these in Artemis, and I posted my video and even theory, the lead researcher in Peru, was like, wow, look at that. Which was kind of a sign to me.

It's like, have people not found the larva yet? So at the very least, if I didn't find the first tridactal larva, I'm the first person to suggest that these Hongsheng pig dragons, they're called, from the Han Dynasty. it was these little items here that when I say the archaeology is predicting the biology. So many of these are depicted in green jade. I think green is a key color like the Maori Hakey.

So this artifact, this might be a replica for all I know, but it's the same style, was what geared my brain to allow me to search for these eggs because I already knew what I was looking for. Maybe other researchers looking for full forms. I was looking for larval forms because the archaeological record, including the Peruvian artifacts in their ceramics, depict serpentine beings with cortiform-shaped heads.

So I already knew and said, oh, I know what we're going to find in these here. And I think the reason the axolodal is such a revered amphibian is because of its front limb development. It's a salamander whose front limbs develop first. And that's what I suggest you're going to find with these tridactyls because they're going to be experiencing a metamorphosis because they are proto-amphibians. So you are hypothesizing that these NASCAR mummies were amphibian-like,

many of them not having lungs, and even possibly were born with pregnant? Well, yeah, because there appears to be these, maybe again this is going to this at this level of science you're going to need to hear someone else talk about it besides me but from my cursory uh look it looks like they may have developing eggs in them in the smaller versions according to the c tcans and again this is definitely something that i'll say it again this needs to be verified by other people it's just what i saw and it would just seem to make sense the way all these sort of strange traits are leading to a a a

that may not have existed with all these traits unless you went back 500 million years ago. Which interestingly, when I checked Victoria's DNA, her unknown DNA denotes something from 500 million years ago. And a couple more things. Real quick, Maria's, we talked about her fused lower spinal cord. I suggest that these fused lower spinal bones are actually what's called a Euro style, which is something found in frogs after they're I thought they lost their tail they don't actually lose it they absorb it so if Maria has the same tailbone as these little ones that implies that Maria who also does not have a navel she doesn't have a navel this implies that Maria may have

gone through a metamorphosis approximately how many of these mummies have been discovered and how far back do most of them deal on average? So they've only really dated a couple of them, maybe the big hand also. So Maria goes back to, I want to say, 900s AD. It's also a number of 250 AD. So let's just say this.

Maria's between like 250 AD and like 980 AD. She's in that range. The tridactyl, maybe it was even the other one. The hand came back thousands of years. old, like 6,000 years old. So we're going back to Sumer again, where these fertility eye idols came

about, about 3,500, 3,800 BC. Maybe even this is when the Dogu complex occurred. Do you have a picture of the hand? Yeah. And so this was a hand discovered by itself. Well, in relation to, this is one of them. Okay. Sorry.

And where most of these, these were mostly all discovered near the NASCAR area in some subterranean or or cave, correct? Right. They're calling it a Citadel, which is apparently there are tunnels all over Peru. Oh, yeah. And so I guess these grave robbers know this, and they've been going into them.

And I guess they got lucky. There's been over 20 found, but the rumor has it that there's hundreds or even thousands. So they're selling these on the black market. So, yeah, I mean, there's other better probably pictures of the hand. Let's like, look at this one. This one has a golden implant and it looks like maybe it was even pierced by something. So there's still, again, you know, there's a lot to learn for sure. You know, I've had people online correct me.

And that's fine. Please do. At least we're having interaction and we're learning. So it finds me saying something that's not true. Please address it. Unfortunately, a lot of skeptics are like, this whole thing is bullshit. it. So instead of just being like, I don't believe this part, or I don't believe that part, they're just the, and we can't have a discussion that way. You need to be like, well, I think

your interpretation on this particular artifact or this particular morphology might not be correct. And then we can work in a dialogue and then maybe I can learn from people. But, you know, even one biologist, he taught me a lot, but he was so rude, I eventually blocked him. So I was like, what was the, you know, what was the goal of all that? So, well, another thing. thought I had was, again, in that very region of NASCAR, where these mummies or entities, whatever you want to call them, were discovered, we have, again, the elongated skulls, now displayed at the Eka Museum. No way anybody can convince me these were just cradle-boarded humans. These are, I believe, 100% some kind of hybrid, larger eye sockets, larger jaw bones, the foreman

magnum where the neck attaches to the heads in the very back looks very alien-like ours is in the middle center of the head well that's funny to say that because they may at least the little ones may have only one condyle which is more serpent-like than two condiles on the skull creating the pivot point and then are you familiar with the chauchilla chichila cemetery near nasca no i just saw that on my last tour um it's right stones throw from the nashka Azka lines, you drive 30 minutes out into the middle of nowhere. And archaeologists have uncovered about 20 pits, but they say there could be thousands still left that have not been excavated.

But you look down into these pits that are now covered with a canopy. And there is a thousand-year-old ancients mummified with the longest red hair you've ever seen. Really? My point is there's all of these hidden discoveries of ancients that are a thousand years old with super long red hair that are mummified and you can still see eyeball sockets dried. I was blown away by what I was seeing. And if you're watching this episode on YouTube or Spotify, I'll put some pictures up of what I'm talking about here. But, Ed, this has been fascinating.

Any closing thoughts? Anything you wanted to say that you forgot to say or wanted to show us that you forgot? I think I did a pretty good job. You know, I just, again, I want people to know that there are penial glands, there are larvas and the eggs of the small ones. Hopefully I've provided at least enough science for people to do their own research. I suggest that we listen to our ancient cultures. And, you know, I don't think they worshipped them.

I think ultimately at the end of the day, the entirety of human cosmology is really just about reverence for the ancestors and remembering them. So what can you do? Re-examine all your local myths and religions. Go into your museums. I went into my local museum, and I believe the cross-hatching pattern, again, another symbol of our humanity,

that's found in cave paintings, just like heart shapes are found in ancient cave paintings. This cross-hatching, I believe, is a, depiction of their skin. So I've found a pottery that this pottery pattern looks just like our skin samples, which is a cross-hatching pattern. And I bring that up because go to your local museums, especially if they have Meso-American and South American works, and you may locate a trite actal artifact. Don't just look for three fingers and get disappointed by three fingers. but again, they're cordiform heads,

which are depicting the superorbital arches of the small ones. One other thing I wanted to throw at you, so again, just to provide context for the NASCA mummies, we've talked about, funny enough, right in the same area are ancient petroglyphs that display three-fingered humanoids. We also have the infamous, world-famous Nazca lions with the most famous depiction being what they call El Astronado or the...

They call it an astronaut. Why? Or the astronaut who looks like this humanoid guy. Again, if you're watching this on video, you're going to see the video. What are your thoughts on the NASCAR astronaut on the lions? And do you think there's a connection with these beings? I think humans enjoyed contact with these beings for many thousands of years. And perhaps when they left, you know, things weren't the same.

And so my only guess is that is trying to contact something up in the heavens to say, hey, remember us. We'd like to see you again. Or who knows, maybe even we have your friends here. Maybe they need help. So I definitely think it's trying to communicate to something that would be in a higher elevation. And do you think that the. that that NASCA depiction of this humanoid-looking astronaut,

do you think the ancient artist was drawing, I guess my question is, was trying to draw or depict these actual NASCA mummies? Yes, I do. Because again, it's not just about depicting the three fingers, it's also about depicting the wide heads. And some of our art may have even been done by these hybrids and not even buy human primates. Perhaps the hybrids were the ones that first wanted to remember the ancestors. Perhaps they were the ones that were dedicated even more than we were.

Well, Ed, thank you so much for your time. This has been fascinating. Thank you for bringing all of the scans and the pictures, the stats, the information. Really great to get to know you. How can people follow you and stay up to date with everything? and stay up to date with everything you're working on. Yeah, definitely. So tridactals.com, of course.

But at the ad sign, at Tridactals, T-R-I-D-A-C-T, Y-L-S. Did I spell that right? Yes. At Triedactyls on YouTube. Tridactyls, TikTok is fun because you get the little short videos. The, what is it, are tridactals on Reddit if you want to interact more. And, of course, X in Facebook. So I try to be active in the social media.

is my sole focus right now. So when are we going to Peru? Do you have a feature book coming out? You know, I haven't thought about that because I have, why I say I haven't thought about that. I have written things, but everything I've done has just been like real time, social media,

here's the reveal, post it, let's move on to the next discovery. So I've been kind of okay with that format and just resorting to my short form writing that you can find on my website. website. It's kind of my still. So everybody go to tridactals.com and which link do they click to read your papers? Because I know a lot of people are going to want to do that. Oh, that's a good question.

Click papers and read everything Ed has wrote. Follow him on TikTok, Facebook. Yeah, let's debate points. If you want to debate points, they can debate points. That's fun. But general vagaries is not a way I can't discuss vagaries with you. Well, Ed, thanks so much for your time. Let's stay in touch. Absolutely. Maybe we'll do this again in the near future. Yeah, or we'll go to Peru, right? There you go.