Men At Work Podcast - A Podcast at Philadelphia's Best Happy Hour

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

Kyle and Matt head to SIPS, a Philadelphia happy hour tradition where interns and execs alike spill out of their offices to go blow off some steam every Wednesday in the summer. We talk to an accountant who warns us about the next financial crisis, then we sit down with a Canadian rapper and Accountant in the Cannabis industry, a music producer jumps in and we learn about exchange zones from an app developer. Later a librarian tells us about a new system to replace Melvil Dewey's and ranks his top-5 libraries in the world. We have a mutual connection with an Enterprise return agent and a couple of guys with a lot of jobs talk to us about Photoshop and Drake. An Excel Warrior lets us in on a little secret about his company and we learn all about the Colorado Water Basin with a stream ecologist. We finish the podcast talking to a newsletter ops analyst who tells us about selling data. Make sure to drop a thumbs up and subscribe. Comment where we should go next! 00:00 - Welcome to SIPS 7:40 - Accountant 13:26 - Canadian Rapper & Cannabis Accountant 17:35 - Music Producer 21:25 - App Developer 29:23 - Librarian 37:51 - Enterprise Return Agent 42:30 - Photographer/Caterer/Program Director & IT Specialist/Rapper 49:39 - Excel Warrior 53:30 - Stream Ecologist 59:09 - Email Ops for Brands About Us: Hosted by Kyle Pagan and Matt Peoples The Men At Work Podcast asks thoughtful dumb guy questions starting with, "What do you do for work?" After that the conversation flows from there. We’ve met all types of union laborers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and more. And we’ll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a baseball game, a bar crawl, casino, and more. We like to have conversations with the people. If you want us to come to your event email us at: [e-mail] If you want more bonus content from every episode check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod If ou want to come to your convention or do a podcast at your sales meetin or other event email us: [e-mail] Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/

I got burned too many times, I had to move. You got burned too many times because you're buying grants for $50. Yeah, that's the problem. You think I buy grants for $50? Three, two, one. Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work Podcast. We're recording, baby. We're recording. I know sometimes we don't. Welcome back. I am Kyle Pagan.

With me is always Matt Peeples. You guys can walk by. It's really okay. Please, yeah. Don't be afraid of the cameras. The traffic lights are seeing you guys can walk by it's really okay please yeah yeah don't be afraid of the cameras the the traffic lights are are seeing you guys anyway um that's one thing we're gonna have to figure out people are gonna be so scared of these cameras and whatnot when they don't know that they're being filmed by right there they're being filmed right there that traffic light has a camera on it people just need to understand that big brother's here i will anybody i see that gets a

little too weird with the cameras i'm like you're cheating you're with somebody you're not supposed to be like that what do you got the high what do you got the cameras. I'm like, you're cheating. You're with somebody you're not supposed to be with. I like that. What do you got to hide? What do you got to hide? What the hoot and holler in? We're here at Sips. Center. Center.

Sips. City. Sips. Sips, for anyone who doesn't understand what's going on, is a happy hour for people who work in the city of Philadelphia. It's the most popular happy hour all throughout the city. Deals, specials, drinks, food, all that stuff. It's where you come to go, whether you're on your internship and you just want to let loose.

You come if you're in corporate America and you just want to let loose. It's it's a rite of passage, I would say, to get to corporate America. Like, I feel like a lot of promotions, a lot of next kind of job offers have come at Sips. Sips has bred that. I think so. I've only been here a few times, so I'm kind of in rare air right now.

But it's kind of funny. If you're a younger person watching this, which I think we've got some younger viewers, if you want to get a promotion, good to see you guys. How are you doing? You know them? No, I don't.

Oh, okay. But if you're looking for a promotion, you're a young person, go get drunk with your boss anywhere that you can. If you're just like a regularly, like just a baseline likable person, you're looking at at least some kind of pay bump in my experience. And also like if your boss gets drunk and makes a fool of themselves, then you can just use it against them to get a promotion. That's blackmail.

Yeah. And if your boss is an African-American gentleman, that gentleman that's also like this is the perfect place to blackmail your boss if you're looking to really climb the corporate ladder which you should yeah any which way have you been to sips you seem like a sips dude i worked at comcast comcast was like the the leader of sips sips was amazing outside there then a couple guys in boat shorts fought and they ruined it for everybody you were never a guy in boat shorts thank you what you were never a guy in no i never wore boat shorts i? You were never a guy in bow shorts? No, I never wore bow shorts.

I never wore those Sperrys. I never wore anything. I was more of like a polo shirt and a slacks guy. Really now? Yeah, see, people I think they confuse us for little frat bros, and we're just not. No, I've never been in a frat in my life. Not once.

I didn't even entertain it for a single second. No, me neither. When I thought that you had to buy friends, I said, I think I'm good. But I'll tell you what. If you want to buy friends, you've got to go to Center City Sips. Buy them a half-priced beer. Take care of them. Get hammered with them.

Next thing you know, you're the CEO of Comcast. Yeah. That's how it started. So what's going on? Life is good, dude. The times I've been here, I was here one time quite a while ago. We're right outside of Pagano's on Market Street. One of my favorites. Yeah,

that's probably the best part. That's like the focal point. If you're ever at Sips, I think the place that people all kind of congregate is this little courtyard. And I got cheated on by a situation ship at Sips back in the day, dude. Yeah, that's a lot of red tape right there. I don't know if you could say cheated on in situation ship in the same sentence. Well, I felt it, Kyle. so it hurt me and uh it was pretty brutal because she was like yeah we're not even together and i said well you don't really get me then because in my in my head we've been together this entire time she literally just moved on yeah yeah well that's what's tough is i was making the least amount of money of anybody on

planet earth and most of the guys here like yeah i accidentally make three hundred thousand dollars a year and i was like okay, that's a good thing. I mean, it's like a really, it's like a cast system. Yeah. A happy hour cast system. But it's everybody fraternizing with anybody. The untouchables can come in and the upper class can come in. You know, you have your guys who are lawyers making $300,000 a year.

Yeah. And then you have your guys who are interns. You have your guys who's like an analyst who's like, you know, making $40,000 a year. But you're all, you're all, the specials is what brings it back. Like you can be as rich as you want to be, but $3 specials brings you back. Yeah. It'll get me every time. No matter the price.

Yeah. Although I'll tell you what, I see some guys in there that are really trying to flex. Richish dudes trying to flex like, nah, I'm actually going to pay full price. Or nah, I'm actually going to buy the most expensive thing. I'm like, dude, who are you doing this for yeah it's sips there's only uh red white beer yeah that's your only three options so i don't know who you're trying to flex on now you can't get bottle service at sips yeah i also think that's uh trump's platform it's red wine beer that's actually it yeah my favorite person was the person who was unemployed that was

my favorite that that having an unemployed person if I can give anybody a tip out there, have an unemployed friend that can go get you a table at Sips before anyone else because they can get here at 4 o'clock when it starts. Wow. You see that a lot? That's pretty common. That's what we used. We used to utilize that rule when we were in corporate America. Really? Yeah. Comcast goes to some layoffs. We're not just going to stop talking to the guy.

That guy's now a vital vessel to Sips. He's a valuable resource sips their sips happy hour i mean well look we brought our unemployed friend he's right over back there eating popcorn off camera so i mean i guess the the method is still tried and true dude one thing that we forgot to do we forgot to uh we forgot to thank the blue collar babies the middle class mommies the white collar criminals and even the one percent guys who refuse to invest in us, even though we are just crushing right now. We are crushing the views right now. Murdering the views.

Get on the train, okay? Because it's not stopping once we get too big. Buy us low because you're looking at a goddamn angel investment. Yeah, we'll do a little bit more housekeeping before we get started on the podcast. We do have a Patreon, patreon.com slash men at work pod. Right now we're running a dollar special. So the first 50 people that get a dollar, they want to pay a dollar a month, go to the Patreon.

It's in the link in the description and everything. It ain't hard to find. You got bonus content. Already about three videos, I think, by the time this comes out, will be released in it. Maybe even four by the time you're watching this. So I promise you the Patreon content will be good. Go and grab it. And then one

more thing I think I had for housekeeping. Oh, yeah. Listen, if you ever want us to come out and interview your sales team or go to a not a congregation. Well, I'll go to a congregation. A convention or something like that. Get in touch with us. MattisNotCast

at gmail.com. We'd love to come out. We're always looking for people. Right now, actually, comment below and tell us where we should go next or where, you know, you'd like us to go next because we don't only

just want to do it in Philadelphia. We love our Philadelphia listeners, but I know we love people that listen in Brooklyn and people that listen in Chicago, people that listen down south in Florida. Yes, sir. We'll go anywhere.

Wherever. We'll interview anyone. And I think we do have a New York episode coming up in about a month-ish. Yeah, keep an eye out. Somewhere mid-July, we're going to be in the bad apple, baby. The big city of shoulders, they call it from what I'm told.

Yeah? You've heard this? No, I've never heard that. But yeah, please, let us come to your conferences and stuff. Bring your sales team out. We could be the vetting process. If they can deal with psychos like Kyle and I, you're going to have a couple of good eggs on your hand. True.

You want us to just, I mean, we're definitely less than Andy Elliott would just saying that I'm going to kidnap your children until you sell 40 cars. Yeah. Like we are the cheap option. Yes. And we'll make you laugh. That's right. It's not black males, white males.

Yes. And we'll be there. All right. I think we should finally start asking people to come on because. Let's get some friends, man. Excuse me, ma'am. Would you want to hop on our podcast? We just ask people what they do for a living no worries all right have a good one

fellas what's up what's going on boys two minutes of your time that's all we hear about sips is gonna be there dude i think they're walking away they got scared how are you we do a podcast where we ask you what they do for a living. Oh, you're right. Yeah, you already said that. You're excited. You look like you're like, yeah, you're rearing up, man. There you go, brother. How are you, brother?

I love you. Thank you, brother. How are you? I'm feeling it. Thank you. Who are we here with? My name is Leo. Leo, what do you do for a living?

I'm an accountant. Nice. Yeah, super excited. Yeah, Gap principles, baby. That's tough. That's tough. Is that where the polo's from? Gap?

Or what do you say? No, that's literally like a principle of accounting, I guess. Okay. Did you do like business classes? I took financial accounting twice because I failed the first time. Amen, man. Yeah. Or managerial.

It's pretty terrible. One of them. It is pretty terrible. That's impressive, though so this is a big season right now nah uh that's like january through like april-ish we're coming out of it now now you're just gonna see a bunch of like alcoholic accountants like every steps probably weekend yeah sweet so people always hear about that that they hear like oh this is the busy season for accountants what does that actually look like are you sitting there and you're looking at tax

returns are you getting stuff from corporations? Like what we always hear it's busy. What does the busy actually mean? Yeah I mean it depends. If you're doing tax accounting you know you're gonna be mostly busy like in March, April you know and everyone procrastinates on their income returns and everything. Like you know corporations kind of do the same thing. But then also you don't really get all the info you need until the last minute too. That's kind of the CC's for them.

But for audit, you're working with corporations trying to audit their financials, making sure that they didn't lie about shit. I actually do neither. I do the fun. I'm in the fun world of consulting where, you know, you can't, where no one knows what they're doing. So you, so do you consult out to, are you traveling a lot?

I'm traveling a decent amount. So it's kind of cool. I'm like an accountant consultant. So I'm doing really more like accounting based work. Like, for example, I was was my last client was a big bank and I was helping them with like their liquidity management and making sure that they're like like working with their laws and everything and like they're doing all that so it's really really exciting shit yeah tell us are

you being sarcastic we see that's what we kind of do like to try to like pick back the layers because like someone listed this might try to get into accounting. They might be in college or high school right now, and they're like, hey, listen, I want to hear more about it. So what's liquidity, whatever the hell you just said? Liquidity management? Liquidity management, yeah. How liquid you are? Yeah, how liquid you are.

How much cash you got? I'm carrying a lot of water weight right now. Sell assets. It's like selling your car. Is that what you advise? Selling your house. That's like selling your car. Is that what you advise? Selling your house. That's like becoming more liquid. If you see somebody who's got a lot of money tied up in something,

are you kind of going like sell, sell, sell? What's a good way to protect? It depends. It depends. There's a balance. You want to balance it all out. I mean, when it comes to big corporations, you want to be just liquid enough that if the stock market crashes

that you can still pay people. Got it. That's what I was hoping that bank out with but um that depends it's really like some banks are doing good some banks are not doing good because that's that one in silicon valley right that uh that crashed like a couple years ago yeah i mean look i mean i'm still a new like analyst but uh yeah there's like a lot of banks not doing like really well and that's kind of the reason why i was working on that one engagement but yeah i mean even republic bank you know just down the street you know they just failed like what like two weeks ago or something so that was

a big really yeah damn that got slipped under the rug i don't know i heard about this i might be bugging but i think it was republic yeah they failed what's the next crash what's the next crash what's the next crash like is it loans next crash? What's the next crash? What's the next crash? Is it loans? Is it banks? Is it car market? Like, home market? I have no clue. But if I were to guess anything, I have no clue what I'm talking about.

But if I were to guess anything, it's the car shit. These car loans and everything is ridiculous. What's going on with car loans? Just kidding. The hard stories of, like, BMW Financial, like, giving somebody, like, $1,000 a month on, like, some, like, car with $1,000 a month on like some car with like a 500 credit score, like 600 credit score. Damn. That's happened way too many times. Yeah.

So I would guess there, if anywhere. But how does that work where it's like they could do it with homes because homes would usually appreciate over time. How are you able to? What's that? Didn't we learn too? You would think. I mean, you would just not do that? No, we didn't learn shit.

But at least with cars, they would give you a home and say, whatever, we'll get the fee for giving you the mortgage. If you're giving somebody a car that can't afford it and you're giving them this decent loan for the car, how does that even work? How does car financing work? Yeah, well, the car depreciates as soon as you drive it off the lot, so you're not paying into some asset that's making you more money over the long term. What does that look like for these people that are getting loans or things like that that they can't really afford? Are you getting a lot of defaults? I mean, see, I haven't really been looking at the market too much in that sense. I mean, I have. I literally just started working on it about a few months ago. But, I mean, you're getting people that are selling their cars quickly

that they have to go back to the dealership and get a cheaper car. And they're still left with a loan. They get themselves into messy situations. Even some family members are doing the same shit where they have to give their car back and they still have some left on their loan. It's worthless as soon as they drove off the lot so you know you just got to see like it's it's all different situations i mean hopefully that guy with the sapper truck across the street

you know it's not in the same situation i just you guys noticed that yeah that's mine man really nice structure no of course i'm doing a podcast outside of course it's not mine car finance what you do for that got me talking right now you want to jump in you make music thank you so much we appreciate it dude thank you man i appreciate it you come on too we got four seats how are you doing bro i'm good man this is kind of cool yeah man my name is lynn i'm a upcoming artist from canada originally but you know i'm here now oh can, Canada. Absolutely. What's your name, my friend? I'm John.

John? What do you do for a living? I'm in public accounting, but I work for the Cannabis Association. Whoa, okay, I like that. He's an up-and-coming artist. Have you ever smoked weed? Yeah, I got some weed in my pocket right now. See, like, this is like... We're making connections.

That's what we're here to do. He's in public accounting for cannabis companies. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's sick. Do you smoke weed? I mean, what do you think? I don't know. You look like you don't smoke weed. He's in public accounting for cannabis companies. Oh, yeah, that's sick This is the weirdest I don't think I can sit down and catch random insults from straight people. Dude, that's the problem. I'm not going to hold you. He's Canadian, too.

This would be nice. You just don't look like the smoker. That's all. So the more successful you get, the more weed you smoke, which helps him. I support the black market. Sorry about that. See, it's all about companies because I don't like mold in my weed. So, you know, good testing and everything.

The cannabis I get is top tier, brother. Yeah, but it's not tested, so you don't know. It is tested. How do you know it's not tested? Well, if it's legal, it, you know, good testing and everything. The cannabis I get is top tier, brother. Yeah, but it's not tested, so you don't know. It is tested. How do you know it's not tested? Well, if it's legal, it's all tested, man. It's tested for pesticides and molds and all that good stuff.

And I get that, but that shit is taxed, brother. Not in PA. If you got your med card, it's zero tax, my guy. I don't got my med card. I got my pen license. Well, that sounds like a pee-pee,

my guy, personal problem. See, and that's why I get my shit on the streets. It's much better. I got burned too many times I had to move. You got burnt too many times because you buying grams for $50. That's the problem. You think I buy grams? For $50.

You buy grams for $50. Yeah. You know, you seem like a casual smoker, brother. Yeah, dude, you got me all along. Well, I look to the point of like, are you a big smoker? Like, what's up? Are you an everyday guy? If I buy that, Well, I... What is that look like? Are you a big smoker? Like, what's that? Are you an everyday guy? Right, is that a pothead?

Like, I want to know. You know, some people take melatonin before bed, you know? Some people, you know, have their own routines. You know what I mean? Oh, so you're just a nighttime type of guy. I think you have to be, though, because, like, basically, you're infusing your own economy. No, of course.

You have to, uh... You got to buy enough so that you can smoke for free. You see what I'm saying? Are there incentives to being a public accountant for cannabis companies? No, of course you get to understand how everything ticks and how they do the job. Do you get free weed? Oh, I can't confirm or deny. That's a confirmation, brother bear.

Hey, who's ever going gonna say no to free samples? Free samples? They probably giving you sativas, bruh. Those are so hard to find nowadays. That's my thing. They giving you free samples, they giving you ground in the tube. You wanna know what's so funny? When sativa hybrid, you know how they know it's that stuff? It's cause someone tried it. So it's however they felt. There's no like real reason to be able to find out what is what. Through the the marketing of sativa is a sham you're saying oh you're saying it's whatever the other guy smoked it was like ah it's a steve that's good yeah i mean we're just turkeys

that's how i know why do you say that why is sativa bullshit because who smokes weed to not feel nothing it all depends on the time of day. What the fuck? I get paranoid. If I want to smoke weed and not feel nothing, I'm wasting my money. I want to be in the couch. You know what I'm saying? Sure, but that's like what's he getting?

I don't need more energy from sativa or like not, you know what I mean? I need to calm down. So you use it to get stuff done. You use it to go to bed. Oh, I use it for many reasons. But yeah, mostly for bed, yeah.

All right, well, you want to do it for a purpose. You want to do it for bed. What if you stopped at his house every night, yeah. All right, well, you want to do it for a purpose. You want to do it for bed. What if you stopped at his house every night, tucked him into bed, you smoke a little, and he goes to bed with you? All right, he's not going to be sucking this man into bed. Yeah.

I would tuck your dog into bed, but not you. You got a dog? No, a cat. Oh, fuck no. I'm not going to this nigga's house. Aw, it's my girlfriend's cat. Calm down. Oh, see?

Now he don't want to claim the cat. Oh, no, I'll claim the cat. That's your third roommate. Tito's a good kid. He's got all the circles. See, now you don't want to claim a cat. No, I'll claim a cat on me. Tito's a good kid. He's got all the socials. Come take my spot, bro. Are you leaving? Come to your. Dude, you are so much fun.

I love you guys, appreciate it. You're a lot of fun. You stay here. Dude. Dude. I'm Adam. This is Kyle. This is our buddy John.

Nice to meet you guys. John, this is our buddy John. John's a public accountant. I got claiming hands. Nice to meet you, buddy. All's good, I appreciate you. John's a public accountant for cannabis companies clammy hands. I appreciate you. John's a public accountant for cannabis companies. What do you do?

Oh, nice. I'm a producer, engineer, artist. We just lost a producer, engineer, artist. Either this is a great creative city or everyone's just like, I produce music. I think everybody's just saying their second job. No, I'm full-time. Are you really?

Okay. I appreciate that. We have a lot of half-timers. So what's that look? What's a full-time. Are you really? Okay. I appreciate that. You have a lot of half-timers. So what's that look? What's a full-time producer day look like? Are you in the studio? Combination of studio sessions and consultations a little bit. Who's the biggest person you work with?

Honestly, like, no one crazy. It's more up-and-coming artists. Like, a few labels shit, got a few billboards. But not crazy. Are you dealing with a lot of people who think they're bigger than they are and they're giving you shit about it? I mean, luckily, for the most part, no. Everybody's pretty chill.

You always come across some of those people. Okay. But it's all with love, you know. It's like you usually steer them in a good way and be like, you know, I'm going to ease off that guy because you know how they are. Yeah. Do you find Steve Weed? I love Steve Weed and I love him.

I'm going to listen to the player tonight. Yo, do you have Khalifa Kush? Oh, absolutely, dude. Tell me that's not one of the best fucking streams. Tell me that's not one of the best fucking streams. Oh, 100%, 100% KK, my guy. Yes, that dude. I see why Wiz Khalifa only smokes that fucking stream.

Oh my God, yeah. Do you do accounting for his company? That company? I'm not on that job, but our firm does. Nice. Sweet. I mean, I don't know if, I think they grow for his company that company I'm not on that job with our firm Gus nice sweet truly I mean I don't know I think they grow specifically for only truly the MTA sells okay do you the best one in the game right now I think so which personally your favorite there's too much the market's saturated What's one of your favorites? I don't know. I've been on the edible game with jams by Curly. I like the jams. They're good.

You can't call them jams as in like... J-A-M-S. You can't call them edibles. I mean, you can't call them gummies in Pennsylvania. You have to call them trokies. Wait, what? You just spelled jams as if that were clear. J-A-M-S. Yeah, okay, for sure. Are we spreading this on like bread?

Oh, no. Like a cracker? Well, you can't say gummies in Pennsylvania, but you can say trokies because you can't say lozenges. What the fuck is that, though?

It's supposed to be more mealy and whatever, it tastes like shit, but no, Jams does a good... Wow. Jams is good, yeah. When are we gonna stop fucking around

and just become New Jersey and get people in the city? Listen, every single state that's not West Virginia that touches PAs don't use you know govern Shapiro wants to sign it you know especially with this rescheduling that's about to happen I think that it's gonna be soon I have to be honest I think Florida might be before Pennsylvania but I think it's either Florida or PA is gonna be next

okay it's hilarious that like you know how much money they're losing by me just going over the bridge pay taxes they fight I was on the way back you might well pay $200 to your doctor here paranoia you know about honestly I got anxiety shit too but I will say that like great synergy effect and then you're kind of like chilling it actually makes you a little less high so it's a good balance because i don't have anxiety when i'm like in my regular day-to-day i'm one of the lucky ones when i smoke i'm just like maybe it honestly like i mean it depends on the strain you know if someone's like freaking you

out and you're not having a good time but we will make it worse i got bad friends you're saying maybe time of day or what's going on in your life, maybe. I don't know. There's definitely a lot of 11 PM thoughts I wish I didn't have. Hey buddy. I'm sorry. No, please let him hang.

What's he do for 11? He's a stay at home dog. Wow. Does he like CBD? CBD like what? CBD? Doggy gummies? CBD like.

Oh, he's never had them before. Oh, well I. He's probably a new customer. What's your name? TJ. TJ? I got plenty of hands. What up, man?

What's up, man? What's your name? Phil. Phil, nice to meet you. What do you do for a living? I own two companies. Shout them out. The first one I'll shout out is called 35th Street Builders.

I own a software development agency. And we build all types and I own a software development agency. All right. And we build all types and any types of software for people. What kind of software? Give me one. So one example is we were the founder to build a social media app. Oh. So it's a social media app specifically for sports fanatics.

Yeah. The other one is, I think, a bit more interesting. It's called Relay. R-E-L-A-I. And Relay, we created the concept of an exchange zone. Have you guys heard of it before? No. Feels like I'm getting early on crypto right now.

Tell me more. The coin is a myth. So an exchange zone is a convenient location with secure compartments that allows people to drop off and pick up items asynchronously. Now, you see that woman with the luggage. Yeah, she's looking a little sketch. Right.

They typically do, right? Especially with the bags. Reel the pitch back in. We're back at the pitch. We're back at the pitch. My bad. Allows people to drop off and pick up items asynchronously. Right.

Now, you're going to have to explain to me what asynchronously means. Yeah, now that's a word. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll give you an example to help. Sure. Right. Keep in mind that exchange zones are used in a multitude of ways.

Let's say, let's take Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist, for example. The worst part about that experience is me and you meeting. Yes. Right? Yes. So instead of having to do that, you can actually drop off the item in an exchange zone. That's smart.

And then text the link to the recipient and they come and pick it up. Right? So kind of like the Amazon mailbox that they put in like a 7-Eleven or something like that. Like it's being delivered to a place.

That's dope. So we don't use, we don't compare ourselves to Amazon at all because all you do in an Amazon locker is pick up Amazon packages. Okay.

Right? What we're suggesting the exchange zone is for is for everyone else. Right. And it's independently powered. And so we could drop it anywhere. So what's the location look like if you're, so it's more peer to peer. It's two people that aren't their own businesses.

It's just like you said, Facebook marketplace. Like what's the, what's an exchange zone look like just offhand? So it could be a walgreens it could be uh a local storefront it could be uh really are you guys launched already and have like existing spots yeah we uh we're across two cities now moving into our third you're like the key rock what do you mean but kind of like the rock where like you had next to your uh front door that had the key oh the key i third you're like the key rock what do you mean but kind of like the rock where like you had next to your uh front door that had the key oh the key underneath of it i mean you're

not like that you're obviously more technically advanced than that but like you know i used to keep a key in a rock key in the mailbox key in the mailbox or something like that you're like hey i need to get into the oh check the rock by the uh by the door that makes sense kind of yeah i think that's exactly right i think you i think i think the key in the rock is the caveman, and you're the evolved human. It's a bit more expansive, right? So we don't like to box ourselves in because it can be used, like I said, for Facebook marketplace. That's one, right? Another interesting one is wigs, interestingly enough.

So we work with stylists. When you get a wig put in you need to give it to a stylist two to three days beforehand so that they can prep it really yeah that's crazy because i'm like i'm literally working on a music video right now where i'm dressed i'm wearing a wig right now right now no no no it's crazy because like i literally was it's so hard to find a wig stylist in philly surprisingly yeah really yeah i went through like 12 different people temple temple had like 10 stores on like like like i'm talking like a like a style good one well the reason i'm all right you guys fuck with any anime at all anime yeah um i watched dragon ball z back in the day classic obviously but long story short

is like i'm taking a character called gojo from jujutsu kaisen and i'm dressing up like him in a new music video right and like you know god I already got the fit I'm just waiting for the wig and it took like fucking a month to find the right person like style that shit people don't realize is you I know you know this if you get a wig off Amazon or whatever that shit does not come ready to go doesn't come ready to go it's all flat and you know you can't I even went to my barber like dude can you like do this he's like no I don't feel comfortable and how do you help with that and so so he had to go find a stylist to prep his wig i found one through a

friend of a friend that like did like theater work that's how exactly so the logistics of that is when you find a stylist you have to then coordinate a meetup to hand off right so instead of doing that and going back and forth he can say hey i going to drop this wig off at the 18th Street Exchange Zone. It'll be in here for six hours. Text you a link, and then you have six hours to get it. Isn't that kind of hard, though, for like a wig? Aren't you afraid, like, it might get fucked up or some shit? What do you mean?

Like, how would it be like, you know what I mean? How would it be like? Usually wigs come packaged, right? They come packaged, and then the stylist goes and prep, and then you go and get it installed oh that's how it normally works so i still gotta pay to get it installed no yeah you you pay to get it installed right because that's just like put it on like you could because i think she was gonna give it in the uh like on a bust you know what i mean like already styled good to go i just let her take it off put it on i'm good you there is space in the exchange zone for that okay if they if she wanted to drop off a bus.

So is this, that's what I'm kind of curious about. Are you putting like your own box that you create and you leave it at a specific communal zone and then they have the access through the link, like a QR code they scan. So how do you make the, whatever you're putting it into and how do you lock and secure it? So to use an Exchange Zone, you have to download a Relay app. Right. Right. And Relay makes apps for different types of use cases for Relay app. Right. Right. And Relay makes apps for different

types of use cases for the exchange zone. Okay. Right. So one might be for, you know, quick storage. So me and all of us go out in Center City and I got a bag or a luggage and I want to store it really quickly. You might use a Relay app for that. Right. Or you might use a Relay app to exchange with another person. Right. In any case, to use an exchange zone, you might use a relay app to exchange with another person right um in any case to use an exchange on you download a relay app and the app interface depends on the experience do you think you could do that with food delivery it's an interesting question you know that'd be hard as shit though yeah i mean yeah i mean you'd have to rely like yeah it could be like booze or like a gopuff type thing. You get to a tailgate and it's already sitting on there.

So we don't do food. Yeah. Not yet. Not yet. But that's a different energy conversation. We can drop these anywhere because the energy consumption is low. To introduce a refrigeration operation introduces a lot of extra power that we just don't want to deal with.

But eventually, if the technology evolves... Fair. We're scaling up, fellas. That's what we're doing. We're scaling up. I was going to say, do you guys have an audio engineer to edit your shit afterwards? We don't pay anyone. We can't afford it. Do y'all edit it yourselves?

When did y'all start this? This is cool. Number 12? 11 or 12. I assume you guys are local here in Philly, right? Yep. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, but we definitely go around to other places.

We're going to be going up to New York in about a month and stuff. Do you guys usually do outside format or is this just like a... Yeah, outside format. We love to get into

convention centers and stuff. We love to get into if people have sales teams meetings and stuff or just there. We like it because we'd rather we'd rather probably talk to people who are like this is an example pharmacists instead of like

we got a music producer we got a social worker we got a guy who develops apps so it's kind of like we're always thinking of questions and shit it's like right i'd rather be able to have like i'd rather be able to like 10 just like lined up right and a lot of people that come by i mean we get a lot of like i'm an accountant it's like what's that like and they're like i sit down and type it's like yeah how about something man i need something interesting yeah i'm gonna head out fellas i appreciate it yo man thank you by the way check me out check me check us out relay underscore r-e-l-a-i how are you we do a podcast we ask what people do for you? We do a podcast where we ask what people do for a living. We do a podcast where we ask what people do for a living.

We just need three minutes of your time if you're interested. Okay. Just got to sit down and answer a few questions. Awesome. What's your name? My name's Dan. Dan. Nice to meet you, Dan.

What do you do for a living? I'm a librarian. Oh, wow. Kidding. Are you at the free library? I am not. So we've heard Dewey Decimal. Yeah. We're trying the free library? I am not. So we've heard Dewey Decimal. Yeah.

We're trying to get to the bottom of this. Heard a lot of things about old Dewey. What have you heard? That the librarians ain't a big fan of old Dewey because he was not the greatest individual, many say. People have said that guests on this podcast, actually, you're the second librarian we've ever met, have said that they're trying to get away from the Dewey Decimal System. Was that guy correct? Yeah, you can look at a bunch of different articles that are out there.

At the same time, each library wants to make everything accessible for their users. So there's a guy in India called Raghunathan, who basically came up with the whole five laws of one of them is the library should be for the users users so if you're a great instance that restaurant school they're gonna have a different library than they want the free library whereas the law library is gonna be set up differently so each library is set up directly to there so some of the students have done based off different subject areas so to expand them to best suit the needs of the

students there okay that's fair but so you're I guess that sounds like the Dewey Decimal System is just too outdated. I guess with having the internet and being able to process them in a big online kind of library, does that affect what a Dewey Decimal or the new sorting? I'm going to level with you. I don't really know what the Dewey Decimal System does. So Dewey Decimal was a way that when he came out with it was a way to split up 1,000 different numbers into all the parts of society so henceforth because of the way that the world was back then he set it up

for instance as like 100 200 300 so there were only a thousand parts to put it in there and then part of that was to sell the card catalogs that then would be able to go to it so now you can do a lot digitally you can add different different, what we call subject points, to different parts of it. So you can say, hey, this is a cookbook, but it's also a book about Philadelphia. So if you did colonial recipes, you could easily set it up that way. Wow. Is that good? Do you think it should be done that way?

It makes it what we call access points. So it makes it easier for people to find whatever they need. Got it. So, hey, I want to look for the Kelsey Family Cookbook. Got it. If they came out with a cookbook. Shorts on the docket. They're branding for everything right now.

Exactly. He's retired now. Yeah. So you can put it under, you can search for that, and you can search for different ways. Got it. So the library now, are you at a busy library? Is there people coming in and out the entire day, or is it slow for certain periods? Or busy at certain times? It all depends on what time of year it is and what people are

needing. Okay. Now, what's a good year? A good year is when people are using it. Sorry, what's a good point of the year? Typically, you see the highest volume. When people need information. You're not really working with me here.

Like spring, summer, summer fall it all depends on what's going on if people are if it's rainy people are going to go in a library but then the library is also all the digital assets so all the ebooks you can download all the podcasts you can listen to at the free library about different other events so libraries are probably more populated in places like seattle where it rains more than places like Texas where it doesn't. That is an interesting question. I don't know if Texans can read either. That is an interesting question for where things are.

And the thing is, is everything just what's in your walls? For instance, someone can listen to your podcast on a laptop, desktop, or on their car. So when are you going to get the most listenership? Sure. So you guys have, I'm assuming, computers for people to use, free-use computers. Is there ever anything kind of nefarious going on that you have to go

handle and take care of? I've just heard a lot of horror stories about public libraries where people go in there and they have not the best intentions in mind. I've been in a public library where someone did not have the best intentions in mind. It was him. That's hard to hear. Of course.

There's all humans. So there's different libraries and different software that helps limit that. But then it's all of what is information. Got it. So hopefully people aren't doing anything because if it affects the person next to you it doesn't give you a good experience got it these are all god's little children whatever you want to do we have the software that contains it can you power rank your top five libraries ever oh the top five libraries ever alexander's so library of alexander yeah the new one also is

right yeah nice there is we have our beautiful Parkway Bridge over here. The library, Temple's new library. Shout out to Aminal. The New Charles Library, amazing. And then also the library National Library in Norway, which that also was nearby. Also gorgeous. Is that five? Bridge, Alexander's,

Temple's, and what was the last one? Norway. We'll put it in Seattle public no library of congress it kind of makes a little bit of sense these days what do you think is the library of congress is a beautiful traditional I guess gothic building I'm not sure exactly I'm not an architect okay I don't know we're not either so it's a it's a gorgeous building lots of cool things inside if you saw um lizzo she got to play on uh the flute one of the flutes of chad mcgerson the glass flute a lot of cool collections great of course architecturally it's beautiful yeah um but from the outside it's a government building still not your top five wow i like that now is there any fascination with you

hear a lot about stuff the uh the texts that are in the vatican anything like that as a librarian does that do you interest in that by just the old texts or the random things that only they can look at they have their special things that we don't ask about them really what's going on you gotta start asking more about your library there's people touching their bodies at your computers i mean there's things happening what's the vatican thing there's apparently just texts that they've they've accumulated since their inception that they only they've seen uh yeah and then they're on yeah and then when they become bigger and more powerful treasure right uh the woman nicholas yeah oh one two and i don't even know there's a third but let's say i saw that one too

yeah so there's a lot of great collections in Philadelphia across the city, collections of history, collections of maps, that a lot of people can go and research because we have coming up here on our 225th anniversary. Yeah, what are you guys doing for that? Anything good? A lot of cool events coming up. Nice.

So remember how to engage your community and see cool things that you can write about. So people are going back in the day, and I feel like now old school things are cool now. Have kids rediscovered libraries? Have you guys seen that kind of inflection? Libraries never went away. It's just the perception of it as the place for books to be.

If you're looking in South Philly, we have the largest typewriter repair place. I have seen that. Yeah. So everything that's old is new again. People are realizing that the battery doesn't run out. But then at the same time, if you want to get a book from somewhere else, you can. Audiobooks are available a lot more today. How do you guys feel about that now?

As a person looking within a thousand yard lens, I would say that audiobooks are killing the library. But you probably have a good argument for whether or not. What do you mean by killing? I don't know. I don't go to a library because I can just go on my phone and download audible which i actually am a subscriber to right you know your tax dollars do help pay not fully but pay for a subscription at the free library that helps you also download books so i go right into the i can go right into the free library and get a library card yep just take you and your id and you can go get your library he's from south jersey he can't right no but south jersey has libraries too okay i'm going

to the computers then. I'm down to the computers. Yeah, Hill Public is a great library. Oh, I've never been around. I went to Rowan University. They had a big library over there in South Jersey, if you're familiar. But, you know, I think the library, I like them being kind of like a place for people to commiserate and hang out. So I like that you're really rejuvenating the scene, it sounds like.

Yeah, there's a whole concept of the third place where people can just go and congregate. Over at the Free Library, they have a textile room where people go and learn to sew and knit. I think that's on Thursday nights. Okay. So yes, go pick up your library card, and you have access to everything.

You can go to Jersey Library. Free Library is so much cooler. I'm going to Free Library to get my library card after this. Thank you, sir. Yeah, man. You're very welcome. I appreciate you. What's going on?

We have a podcast. We have a podcast where we ask people what they do for a living, just talk about your job for a little. Yeah, I'll do it. You want to sit and talk? Sit down. Yeah, please. What's your name?

Hey, my name is Makai. How are you? I'm doing good. How are you guys doing? What do you do for a living? I work at Enterprise as a return agent at the airport. You're the second Enterprise agent we've met in less than a week. At the airport?

Yeah. Really? We don't know him, though. Rondo? Gerard? Oh, my God. You guys are talking to Gerard? He told me about y'all.

You're with that PPA, right? Yeah, we're PPA. Oh, my God. Okay, okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Take a picture of Rondo. Take a picture. Gerard was literally just telling me about Child of the Line.

What did he think? He thought it was cool. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He thought it was cool. He was great. He was a very optimistic guy, but it seemed like he was in the middle of a bad day. He was going to pick up the car. No, what happened was he picked up a customer from our job.

He was supposed to take him to the airport, as we're supposed to, but the customer begged him to take him to PPA, so that's when he met you guys. They had to get the prom dress out of the car. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was so funny. What a great guy.

That's great. That's crazy. Have you heard about his nightmare scenario with the PPA guy? With the tickets? Yes. I hear about it every day. Jay Jacoby or Jay Jacobs? Jay Jacobs.

That's who it is. They come outside his house every day at like 7 a.m. Every day? Yes. Damn. The poor guy, man. You got to help him out. Let him park by your place. How far is it? I know. My place? I at like 7 a.m. Every day? Yes. Damn. The poor guy, man. You got to help him out. Let him park by your place.

How poor is he? My place, I mean, he never wants to, so that's on him. True. True. Look, we tried to help you, man. We tried our best. These are cameras? Yep.

So now he seemed to like his experience working there. What do you think about it? How is it? Is it stressful? It's pretty cool. It's a job where you end up getting very comfortable at, but it's not stressful whatsoever. Is that a good thing or bad thing that you get comfortable at the job, you think, personally? It could be both because sometimes it makes it hard for you to move on.

But being comfortable there, everybody wants to be comfortable, so it do make you feel okay to be there. True. But like I said, moving on makes it harder. Yeah. You know what I mean? Got it. So you guys got good camaraderie over there. I mean, you're boys with Rondo and stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We make good money. Now, I always wonder, because I've rented a couple times at work. Do you guys judge what kind of car we accept? Do you guys look at us like broke ass with the Honda Accord again? No, honestly, if you're flexing a car you rent, you're broke. I don't care about you. What's that mean, flexing?

You're like, oh, yeah, I rent cars every week like that don't mean nothing to me you can't afford an actual car that's what that means to me that's fair but there was like one guy that came and rented a car and he's like yeah it's built was 238 to a t i remember he was like yeah he was trying to like flirt with me a little bit he's like you can't do that for me i said well it's only 238 would you like yeah he said oh oh, yeah, well, you'll need to look out. I'm like, but on what? Like, you can't afford a $238 rental? Like, you know what I mean?

Like, you're trying to pick me up. You can't even afford a $238 rental. You can't afford me, for sure. You can't afford a $238 rental. Right? I'll never do it again then. I'm sorry. I thought we had something there.

Why don't you ever have my car? Your car? The car I rent is never there. What car would you like? I mean, I'm usually a big SUV guy. I like this little Kia Sorento. I'm just saying, in the last couple years, I haven't rented a car in a little bit. Before the pandemic, I rented a Kia Sorento. I get hit with a Dodge Charger.

Whoa! That's because during COVID, we got ripped. Yeah! They want you to pay more money. That's why. COVID, we got rich. Yeah. They want you to pay more money. They want you to pay more money. And that's exactly why they be like, oh, we don't have that. But we got this. Wait, wait, wait. You're talking about your girl

here. Isn't that what she's doing? Yeah, right. Why you coming at me, homegirl? I thought you was my homegirl. Oh, for $70 more a day. Let me tell y'all how I work, right? So, basically, if you come in there, you have to reserve a car. If you don't reserve a car, you're out of luck. I reserve it online.

You reserve the car at your size? I promise you. Ask for a bridge manager. And you know what you want to do? When you go in there, please don't get me fired. No. When you go in there, right? You don't get a car.

I think you're doing good customer service right now. Yeah, put the blur on my face. No, you're doing good customer service right now. If you get a car and you don't get a car that you reserved for, when you return the car, tell them. Enterprise is all about customer service. It's a ESQI score that we take very, very serious. And that's what keeps us in business. So anything you guys complain about, we write it off.

Anything, no matter what. That's good customer service. That's great customer service. That's great customer service. If you got a good credit score and you reserve for a little Honda, they won't give you the big body Benz because that's your credit score. So have a good credit score? Have a bad credit score.

Micaiah. Wait, babe. Credit score ain't got nothing to do. You writing the card. You ain't buying it, babe. You writing it. So having a credit card matters. Credit score is nothing. All right, Micaiah. We just tagged him in. Thank you so ain't buying it, man. You're writing it, so having a credit card matters. Credit score is nothing. That's all. All right, but Kyle, we just tagged him in. Thank you so much.

I know, go ahead, I appreciate that. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much. She actually was just getting off as you came on. We really appreciate it. How you doing, bud? Doing well.

I'm Kyle. Hi, Kyle, nice to meet you, what's your name? I got sweaty hands, I got clammy hands. So if you sell drugs, don't do the interview. Don't do the interview, that's true. You don't sell drugs, right? See? My man's listening already. He's enjoying responsibly.

He's got it on the wristband. That's all he's doing. What's your name? My name's Axe. Axe? Yeah, like A-S-E. Sweet fucking name. What's your name?

Dre. Dre. Sweet fucking name. What do you do for a living? So I make music, but I also work at UPenn. Nice. Nice. What about you?

I do photography and videography. I'm a program director for a non-profit nonprofit and I'm also a bartender inside a couple creatives busy man this is shot the bar huh he shot at the bar I mean yeah what's up what's more what are you working I work it like around like I work at a I was like 18, so like five years now. Nah, you're lying, bro. Like 16. 16, so like coming up on 10 years. Why would you lie to us? What the fuck was that? We let you sit down in our chairs. Taking a CSC since 18.

Nice. Nice, man. So what do you do at UPenn? You're studying there? Nah, so I work IT at UPenn, actually. For real? So I do like desk time support. Sweet.

So you make music. Are you like rapping? Are you singing? Or are you just producing? It's a little bit of like everything. Really? And I'm trying to get little bit of like everything, yeah. Really? And I'm trying to get onto the producing side also too.

Really? What's the hardest part about getting into the producing side? The hardest part about getting on the producing side is just actually bringing like your ideas to life, if you know what I'm saying. Like just actually like hearing an idea in your head and bringing it into fruition, yeah. Yeah, I would say so. Why is Photoshop so hard? I don't know, and I'm learning it right Why is Photoshop so hard? I don't know. And I'm learning it right now.

I don't know. It's so hard. It's so difficult. And you would think that since all the Adobe programs are working together, they would make sense. Photoshop, I go in there, and I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm kind of fascinated because you guys are both, it seems like you might be victim of this,

of AI kind of getting in your spaces and taking over things you do. Do you worry about that? Okay, so fun fun fact I actually worked at a different company I'm not going to name them but they laid off 3,000 people because of AI that's why I work at UPenn now Amazon sorry about that one yeah 3,000 people yeah just a robot over a robot a robot like intelligence and the worst thing is they name they mean it too Yeah, I didn't mean the robot. So now it feels like you guys replaced my crank They picked the coolest name of the person they fired and they're like actually it's him now I had a couple drinks in my system right now guys being out here. He has all the socials for you and everything, too. All right, bro.

Can I shout out the club I work at? Shout out Roar. Shout out Guala. Shout out New Wave. Shout out New Wave. We outside. New Guandala. What do we think? Out of 10. Out of 10. Rate it. That's not bad.

That's not bad. No rating of the new Drake song? I'm a Kendrick fan. 8 that's not bad that's not bad no rating of the new Drake song I don't think he heard it he probably heard it I'm a Kendrick fan oh

you're gonna love you're gonna hate this you're gonna love the new Drake Wanda Lila oh no Wanda Lila

I heard that I saw it yesterday that's actually kind of funny what's the rating what's the rating it's like a 7 8

that's crazy that's crazy dude let's go bro appreciate it dude thank you for coming on i really appreciate it who says your fans not like us i tried to tell you dude they we love wagwan delilah here man dude it's the worst song ever like i know it's a parody don't get me wrong but like it's still the worst the worst thing ever you know what actually you know what i do want to bring this

up because i want to talk to you about it yeah the worst thing ever for Oh, man, dude. Actually, you know what? I do want to bring this up because I want to talk to you about it. Yeah. The worst thing ever for me right now is the deodorant with no Alzheimer's chemicals in it. I tried to go natural. I tried to be better. Dude, it sucks. It's so bad. It's so bad. You somehow smell worse. And you sweat more.

Yeah. You're combining, like, your own body odor with like mossy oak yeah dude i've never i'm not a sweater i don't smell either when i sweat it's like awesome give me the fucking alzheimer's chemicals because this sucks and the thing is it lasts forever yeah i'm still using it and i get in the shower and i'm like i'm like 36 hours having showered and it's like holy shit yeah i mean it makes sense that it's like that's the anti alzheimer's one because it's like every time you smell yourself like oh i remember now it's like smelling salts we're all gonna die it's so bad yeah i try to use one for like a couple

months when you read about the aluminum and all the stuff that's in these uh these kind of deodorants you try to hop on the vegan and the hippie trend it just it's disgusting it doesn't work dude i would love to if you were good at it and they're expensive huh yeah oh my god are they dude which ones you tried you have you remember the names harry's harry's harry's harry's i think it's light blue um yeah it sucks give me the speed stick all day give me the two for eight special yeah but smelling yourself is kind of one of the world's little treats it is a far moon i don't know what it is you catch a whiff of your own body you go hello it definitely is i mean it's funny because like bo from another person is like the most is probably in my mind a top five grossest thing ever

bo for me i think i'm a fucking like man and like in like uh the caveman times yeah dude like forging and scavenging for me yeah dude i think i got the my hand. Really? I'm about to take down the saber tooth. Oh, so it brings you back to prehistoric times. Oh, wow. Maybe that's just because I smell so fucking bad that it knocks me out. I dream I go into vertigo or something like that, but yeah, I do feel like I'm back in the caveman time.

That's kind of nice. We've got to set ourselves back every once in a while. There's a certain region that we don't discuss that you get it. You get a whiff of there and you go, OK, I can see what this is all about. Clean it up. Clean up there. Take the order.

Help us out here. Trying like I want to buy your product. It's like it's like Chipotle now. Like, I want to buy your product. But if I feel like I'm getting skimped on it right now, I'm not going in there. I waited in a Chipotle the other day. 15 15 minutes someone just they stared at me didn't do anything you were just like replacing stuff and everything they looked kind of busy but not busy enough but like even like a hey listen we'll be back in five minutes that's fine um and now the chipotle ceo

came out and be like we're not guys we're not we're not uh portion control what are you talking about you ever got an online order dude yeah oh my god maybe when you're staring daggers into your guy who's making 15 an hour yeah yeah that's when you get the portions when you get an online order oh my god you're lucky if they first get it right and then you're you're the second if it's even like any chickens in there it's just straight it's straight skimp dude if the guac and the sour cream doesn't leave a little layer on the uh on the aluminum thing yeah cover you didn't do you don't have enough in there damn you got strong parameters those are even more than i would say but i will say this i did notice the

ceo of chipotle uh you guys look pretty alike it was the first thing i noticed when i saw the video and i was like man kyle's moving on to bigger and better things. Eddie's on there. He's like, actually, our portions are too fucking big. If we could put that in the video, dude. Just Kyle on the seat. Kyle's the CEO of Chipotle. I got to go back and look at it. I'll be honest with you.

I read the headline. I'm a headline guy. I read headlines. I'm excited for you to see it. I want you to text me when you see it. Phyllis, how are you? We do a podcast where we... Thank you, brother.

I appreciate it. We do a podcast where we ask people what they do for a living. I just only need three minutes of your time. You were at Campbell's? Dude, you got to sit down then. I'm rocking your... What's your name? I'm Steven. Steven.

What's your name? Kyle. Kyle? I'm going fist bump. I clammy hands, man. I can't... I'll shake your hand. I can't do the shake. I got clammy hands too.

Oh! Dude, we should have... Dude, then we can shake, buddy. I don't mind. I don't mind. I don't mind. Man, don't go chasing mark balls. It's hot in here. It's hot in here. Dude, it is hot in here, then we could shake, buddy. Dude. I don't mind. I don't mind. I don't mind. Man, don't go chasing waterfalls. It's hot in here. It's hot in here. Dude, it is hot in here, man.

How we doing? Dude, do you... We were just talking about, like, deodorant and stuff. Like, give me the aluminum deodorant because, like, the other stuff just makes you smell the non-one. Dude. It's so bad, isn't it? I need the chemicals in my body.

Yes. Dude, it... All the other ones actually suck. They suck. Old Spice, if you use aluminum... I'm with it. I'm with it. Give me Speed Stick. Like, two... Speed Stick. The two for eight. You like it? Youice, if you use aluminum, I'm with it. Give me Speed Stick. Like, Speed Stick.

The two for eight? You like it? You got one on you right now? No, I don't. People who share are weird. I don't like that one. I don't like that.

One weird thing. I've heard. Me personally, no. Okay. Morgan Spear, women's bathroom. Let me tell you. How'd you get in there?

What the hell are you doing? I'm not a predator, guys. I swear to god you're just scoping out the scene that's all they have a basket of just like shared products i've seen deodorant hairspray makeup no kid damn i don't know who's pulling in that deodorant in the morgan's pier women's bathroom it's just like i don't know that and that's me i mean the guys with him you're just like stepping over puddles of piss the entire time that's the bare minimum

we're crossing streams we're sword fighting really you ever hit your head on the door the door frame's so low at Morgan's Pier I'm not tall enough

I'm sorry I'm a short king man well next time we all go you can get on my shoulders and we'll see what's going on in there you can make your way back in the woman's room

as you were before hey hey hey so what do you do for a living I'm an XL warrior XL warrior so you're a spreadsheet guy yes sir big living? I'm an XL warrior. XL warrior. So you're a spreadsheet guy. Yes, sir. Big spreadsheet guy.

What does an XL warrior entail? I like to crunch numbers, man. The little equal sign on my keyboard, dude. Every five seconds, I'm hitting that. Wow. I actually do think XL people are really cool, and you can do... There's like a spreadsheet World Cup, isn't there? Oh, dude, on ESPN2?

They haven't made it to ESPN1 yet. I did not know about this. They got the XL World Championship. Really? Oh, my God. Go birds! Go birds, baby. Now, the amount of Asian and brown people on that thing,

it is crazy. They are insane. You've never seen someone touch a keyboard like that. No kidding. So is it like, where's it based out of? The U.S. or is it just kind of a global thing? I think it's in Vegas. Really?

But it's a world championship. I'm sure they're flying people out. It's a weird place to take a lot of virgins. Yeah, it's a tough one. Well, they're doing V-lookups, dude. They're looking for the virgins out there. They're looking for the clitoris. It is in Vegas, dude.

The first prize is an S-word for the night. Did you know that? Yeah, just one. Drum roll, please. That's crazy. So, like, what is the most important thing for you to do Excel? Like is a certain key? Is it a certain function?

Like what is like your guys like what's your Mecca? If you use your mouse, you're a bitch, right? So, oh, I know that I use my mouse a lot. Yeah. So it's all about the arrow keys. And people look down on you if you touch your mouse. Honestly, they're like like i came in first week and i'm like hey i'm kind of new you know this is this is cool but so we just go in directional

keys directional keys wow directional yeah that's high that's high level though that's like on the green with your golf glove on like people do not appreciate that all right i do got a head out it was nice talking to you guys yeah man thank you so much we really appreciate it man thank you morgan spirit women's bathroom yeah yes sir we'll see you when we get the podcast there we'll meet you there thanks guys dude so that's what you knew that about xl i can't do it dude everybody in my job looks like they're ordering off a wawa touch screen where it's like the whole time oh so not that great no nobody uses that i mean it's for like smarter people i work for the government come on the best the best and brightest hoorah hoorah

folks how are you we do a podcast we ask people what they do for a living just need three minutes of your time only three minutes we ask people what do you do for a living we only need we only need three minutes of your time that's all two three minutes tops run in run out you're skeptical man we really realize you'll have fun we promise what do you do for a living? I'm a stream ecologist. What the hell is that? I look at river metabolism in the Colorado River Basin. So I'm specifically the Colorado River Basin. Yes. Did you know the Colorado River flows through Arizona? Of course I knew something like that. Yes. Yeah. It flows through seven different states. Did you know it flowed through seven different states states? That's something I knew even more.

How's the metabolism of the Colorado water basin? How is it? I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. Oh, so this is a problem that hasn't been solved yet. In some ways, some people have looked at it. I'm looking at it in a very specific context. What's the context? I'm looking at how flow regime alteration.

So like these rivers have really big floods in the spring and people really rely on these rivers for like cities use them to like get their drinking water. And it's really big for agriculture out there. And so when they're using a lot of water, we lose those big spring floods. And so I'm looking at how that like that loss of those floods changes the river metabolism. And by looking at the river metabolism, we can kind of get an idea of what's going on with the base of the food web. And we're trying to link it up to conserving native fish. Pretend we're your home for Thanksgiving and you're explaining this to your two dumbest uncles. Yeah. How would you explain it to us if we're your dumb uncles? Yeah, so when you think about metabolism in people, we eat things, we use that, and then we metabolize that energy, and we can put it towards growing. So in a river, there's gross primary production, which is like the algae and stuff,

and that's producing oxygen. And so the ecosystem is also respiring and organisms are using that primary production, so the carbon production, and they're fixing it. So they're taking that plant energy and they're turning it into growth. So that respiration consumes oxygen. So we can look at how dissolved oxygen in the river changes over time,

and we can kind of get an estimate of how much the ecosystem is producing as a whole. As a dumb uncle, I'm going to need another beer. As a dumb uncle, I need to drink a little more before we can have that one. I'm sure you did a great job. You explained it. So you said metabolism stuff. What does the river have to shit out to then become good? Like what's the bad stuff it has to take out? The bad stuff.

There has to be bad stuff in there, right? Is the rain like polluting it? Because you said when it rains and floods, you take away the spring water. Is it because it's acid rain and stuff? Well, we want those floods because they perform ecosystem services. They move sediment through the river. They kind of affect like the temperature as a whole and those floods also connect like the main stream to the floodplain which is a really important source of

like terrestrial nutrients that the stream also relies on for production so streams don't just produce all the energy they need they also get it from like stuff along the banks and like so they can the floods are really important so we want the floods what floods we want the floods okay so if there's low metabolism we could call that a lazy river not it's not quite that intuitive sorry they don't tell those jokes too smart for dump jams. Damn. That one did not fall. That one fell flat. Yeah, low metabolism. I guess you could say that means the river it needs more

resources than it's producing. High metabolism means it's producing more than it's using. Most rivers are heterotrophic which means they have that lower metabolism and they're maybe need more resources than they're producing last question for you you're studying the colorado river what the hell are you doing in philadelphia i'm here for a conference okay oh really sweet where's the what's the conference society for freshwater science

where's that um it's at the Sheraton. Nice. Yeah, I've been here for a few days. Gave you a talk on this yesterday, actually. You like Philadelphia? Yeah, I love it, actually. I've never been this far east. Sweet. Go enjoy Sips.

The Sips? Sips. The what? I think it might be over. But Center City Sips is a happy hour every Wednesday in the city with food and beer deals, drink deals. Oh, I was wondering what was going on yeah that's why we're here yeah oh okay well sweet thanks thank you so much to go on that's very interesting we appreciate it yeah have a great one that was a lot of socials if you're

interested in finding where this is going to be yeah thank you guys thank you holy shit there we go uh i thought i'd be smarter after talking to that woman. I now feel extra dumber. Yeah, I wrote on maybe the dumbest joke I've ever told in my entire life. I thought it was. I would have laughed. That's my guy, dude. Dude. That's why we're pals.

That's a great dad joke. I thought so, too. She said no dice, dumbass. I think when you're that smart and you have such a serious topic like that. You pour your ever living soul into it. Yeah. You just can't laugh at that. We had that before. We had the two guys.

Remember our two big British friends from the Rittenhouse episode? Deep down, they were looking at us like, like you ever seen Planet of the Apes 1? They were looking at us like, they can speak a little bit, but I know it's not anything that matters. And they're Dawn of the Apes. Yeah, they started their own colony. That makes sense. That makes sense. Hey, what's up, guys?

We do a podcast where we ask people what they do for a living. I'm going to sit down for two minutes, talk about your job or college or anything fun like that. Two minutes in and out. We won't hold you up too long. There we go. That's the spirit. What's your name? Colleen.

Colleen. Nice to meet you. That one stumped you. That one, that stumped you? Do I need headphones? Colleen. Colleen, nice to meet you. That one stumped you. That one, that stumped you? Do I need headphones or? If you want, can you hear me? Whatever you want. I can hear you pretty clearly, yeah.

Perfect. Pretty close in proximity. What do you do for a living? Okay, burn. Yeah, I'm right fucking next to you, so. Smarter than you. What do you do for a living? I work in operations for email for different newsletter brands or magazine brands.

Operations and email. Oh, for newsletter. Okay, so you control the web. You control the emails. A little bit. I control the code on the back end of emails for Vogue, Vanity Fair, GQ, The New Yorker. Nice. Bon Appetit.

How many companies have sold my information? That's a good question. We don't sell third-party data. Nice. Do you buy it? I don't really care if you do or not. My team does not. We um direct sign up so like you would go to gq's website and be like i want a newsletter about watches you sign up then i send you a newsletter about watches so you're

gonna earn it yeah we do earn it nice so do you hear that a lot about people worrying about their data it's so annoying i'm like that's not me no our company's pretty good about protecting it nice is that still a problem do people still a lot so annoying. I'm like, that's not me. Okay. No, our company's pretty good about protecting it. Nice. Is that still a problem? Do people sell a lot of data? I know that's been kind of a... In the US, yeah. Internationally, no.

No, they don't sell data internationally? No. It's like so illegal to do. Is it, oh wow. Is it like also one of those things where it's like, Apple, like every time they run a commercial, I think it's funny because it's like, we're the most secure phone in the world.

We'll never sell your data. And then it's like, eh, you kind of just dig deep, I think it's funny because, like, we're the most secure phone in the world. We'll never sell your data. And then it's like, eh, you kind of just dig deep. You do two seconds of research. You do have everything. It's hard because I feel like people give their email to so many different things without realizing it. And then it's like, it ends up somewhere and you don't even know how it got there. So it's hard to even track it back to who got it or how

or if it was Apple or if it was an app you signed into on your phone or only fans yeah you never really know i have no idea how much i got there i'm still trying to figure it out but um i think that's where i sign up yeah well yeah i mean don't ever worry about that there's not but if you want to write one let me know yeah right we come to you that's awesome yeah um do you care that people saw your data no because i don't really know what it means deep down. There's a lot of things that I think we're supposed to be angry about,

and I think I'm just too stupid to understand it, and I just kind of let it go. That's kind of my MO. I think it's funny because people get so angry about, like, oh, my phone's listening, and they can see, like, I get this app or this ad about kayaks because I was talking about kayaks, and it's like, isn't that so convenient, though? Yes. You don't have to go look for it. It's right in front of you.

Your phone was listening. I think it's convenient. Some people think it's like, isn't that so convenient, though? Yes. You don't have to go look for it. It's right in front of you. Your phone was listening. I think it's convenient. Some people think it's annoying. Dude, 2 a.m., drunk, you know how many, like, graphic tees I've bought off of Instagram? Yeah. Yeah. It's, like, the greatest thing in the world. I get it every time.

Targeting works. Targeting works, yeah. Sorry. Sorry that we have technology. Some people get scared by it because they don't know about it, but I personally think it's kind of fun. Now, is that, like, is this a fully remote job? Are you in the office with a bunch of people trying to get it together?

I'm mostly remote. My team is kind of throughout the world, so we're all remote, but the majority of my company is in office. Like all the editorial teams, photography, studio, they're all in office. How's the collaboration? Collaboration, it depends on who you ask and what you're asking. I feel like... It's a lot of collabs, you know? Oh, yeah, I what you're asking i feel like i feel like uh it's a lot of collabs you know oh yeah i guess you're right a lot of clubs how's the

collaboration in like the workforce i feel like i like i used to have a corporate job so like during the pandemic it was kind of like cool for a little bit and then it was like this kind of sucks nobody gets anything done we all just put a pin in it we all just move it over table it yeah all the corporate jargon um i think because i go into the office sometimes okay it's different and i've also been remote for five years so i'm just like kind of used to it by now one more for you but you got one no i'm i'm very interested i like hearing it is it is i mean i've done a newsletter before and i think newsletters are actually the future of content in a way.

One part of content. Because I think big brands and advertisers will pay for a wine newsletter that people are like, I have a thousand people dedicated to Philadelphia advertised for me. Am I correct in saying that? Yeah, for sure. It's better than a sports blog that maybe might have philadelphia sports like i work at right now that might put uh wah-wah on it you can't really you can't really like beat it down to a sense of like this person's 34 they live in

wayne pennsylvania they love the wah-wah because they go there three times a week. That's it? They don't love Wawa that much. Three times a week? Damn, I don't think I do anything three times a week. I don't even work out three times a week. Don't even think about yourself. I don't eat breakfast three times a week. You're a diehard fan. Every day. It's the worst habit I have. If they have my email, though,

I'd be happy to have it. They probably do. You think so? So what's the most interesting thing about your job? We get invited to, like, premieres of new movies. Nice. What's the last one you saw? I have not gone to any,

unfortunately. So other people in the company get invited to premieres? Yeah, they get the emails. Well, it's more like a lottery, so you can put your name in, but most of them are in New York, so unless I'm already there, it's kind of hard for me to go.

But one of the big ones was that movie with uh Liam Hemsworth that was and um next uh Fury Road Planet of the Apes no Mad Max Spider something no um it was on Netflix they're like testing different people for things and they're like imprisoned can you premiere Netflix movies in your own house? Like before it's released on Netflix. Okay, sorry. That was a genuine question. That wasn't bullshit. That was unfortunately a real question.

The next time I hang out with my girlfriend, I'll be like, we're actually watching a premiere. Do it. It sounds exclusive. You might get some kudos for that. I think so. I think you might be right. It's Premiere. We'll have to give it a go.

All right. We'll let you go so you can go back with your friend. We appreciate it. All right. So, hey, that's the podcast. We really appreciate it right now. It is starting to rain, so we'll make this really quick. Men at Work podcast.

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