Men At Work Podcast - Are Americans Voting for Donald Trump or Kamala Harris?
Episode Date: September 11, 2024Kyle and Matt went down to the 2024 Presidential Debate to talk to people about which candidate the American people are voting for and how it effects their job. 00:00 - Kyle's Jury Duty/Matt'...;s Dome 10:17 - Civil Engineer Aide 24:10 - Famous YouTuber 31:35 - Unemployed 46:32 - Customer Service & Independent Contractor 56:33 - Mental Health 1:02:33 - Behavioral Psychologist/Dog Whisperer 1:12:04 - Fraud Detector & Bartender 1:20:36 - Copywriter/Small Biz owner 1:23:26 - Union Worker Check out our sponsor Thrive Flower! Thrive sells real cannabis products outside of the medical system. They have 9 strains of flower, 6 strains of pre rolled joints, 4 strains of vapes, gummies, and lemonades. They are the first and only company offering same day cannabis delivery within Philly. Order your cannabis at https://thriveflower.com/ and it will be delivered in about an hour. Use code menatwork15 for 15% off orders. Simply choose “same day delivery” during checkout. This applies for Philly residents ONLY. About Us: The Men At Work Podcast asks one question: What do you do for work? After that the conversation flows from there. We’ve met substitute teachers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and more. And we’ll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a baseball game, a bar crawl, casino, and more. We like to find out what people do for a living. If you want us to come to your event email us at: menatpodcast@gmail.com Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/fU6yFcubTlo If you want more bonus content from every episode check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ Follow Kyle: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb Follow Vito: https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en
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Three, two, one.
Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work podcast.
I'm your host, Kyle Pagan.
As always, I'm joined here by Matt Peoples.
Matt, where are we?
Dude, we made it.
A lot of people got too scared, a little too nervous, a little too politicized and controversized.
But we made it to the debate in Philadelphia, September 10th, 2024.
We're here out front, as close as we can get to the convention center, dude, it is blocked off.
Yeah, it looks like a Hell in a Cell match right now.
There's like eight-foot barricades that have gone up all around the city.
It's kind of wild.
It really is insane here.
Yeah.
There's people fighting to our right over here.
There's people, dogs fighting to our left over here.
A lot of dog fights.
You know, this podcast is just going to be, we want to our left over here. A lot of dog fights. You know,
this podcast is just going to be,
we want to talk to people
about who they're voting for
and why it affects their business.
A little tie back.
That's us.
We're tying it back
to the podcast,
the brand.
We're just here to kind of hang out,
find out what people,
because that's what we think.
Like,
what you do for a living
for sure has to do with what
and who you're voting for.
And if you don't want
to talk about it,
we're going to drag it out of here.
We want to show you folks watching.
These are the type of folks that are voting for who's who.
And don't be mean in the comments.
Don't start talking crud.
Just listen for a second in your life.
I'm here.
I'm addicted to nicotine.
Stuff's good.
If this is the wall that Trump was going to build,
it's not that good.
Yeah.
Here we are.
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You don't understand what I did to get to this podcast today.
Tell me.
I got out of jury duty.
I got out of jury.
No, I legitimately got out of the jury.
The judge wanted me on the jury.
What did he say?
She. How dare you? Sorry. What did the jury. What did he say? She.
How dare you?
Sorry, what did they say?
What did she say?
Yeah.
She said, so have you ever been on jury duty?
Mm-mm.
Oh, man, dude.
Jury duty is kind of sick.
I'll be honest with you.
I got a good number.
I got a good spot.
I got number 11.
And if anyone's been to jury duty, you know getting the earlier numbers is a good one.
Oh, really?
Dude, she said I had a great demeanor.
And she was British.
And she said, you have a very good demeanor. Yeah. Can you be on the earlier numbers is a good one oh really dude she said i had a great demeanor and she was british and she said you had a good you have a very good demeanor yeah can you be on the jury and i told her no oh because i'm in the media really yeah it worked it fucking worked dude
wait so she told i i hate i don't believe that you live this life she told you she went man i
want you on this jury so gosh darn bad she was peppering me peppering me so the case was a fraud case between a guy
and a stripper it was hilarious okay so obviously that guy definitely either blacked out or maybe
allegedly got drugged by the stripper woke up had a five thousand dollar like expense on his account
and probably was like fuck this i'm suing that strip that uh his tab ran up like a taxi like
they were like counting how long he was there for.
I'm assuming this is what happened.
If you are suing a
if you sue a strip club for
fraud, you've got to imagine that's what happened.
What else would it be?
It's worse than falling in love with the stripper as being like
I'm being sued. This is wrong. Somebody did something
wrong. Of course they did something wrong, dude.
They smell like goddamn nickels.
Every stripper smells like nickels.
Look it up, dude. Smell a nickel next time you get a chance.
It's not real silver. It's true.
That's crazy. So you got out of it.
The judge told you,
I've seen your work. Well, the lawyers
knew who I was. And the one lawyer goes to me
and goes, why aren't you working?
I'm like, oh, dude.
I was like, you've got to be
a public defender for that fucking question. You've got to be a public defender for that question.
Like, you got to be a public defender.
Live pot of the court case, though?
That would have been pretty sweet.
That'd be sick.
No, but dude, you've never been in a jury duty.
This is my first time I ever did jury duty.
They walk you into like this small ass room.
The judge goes over the kind of the case and everything.
They ask you a couple questions and then they make the people stand up.
So this guy has to turn around, face like 36 of his peers and be like on the plaintiff i'm
suing so-and-so strip club i don't want to name the strip club because i like small business
and then has to slink down back in a seat and i think the worst case about it was i'm pretty sure
his mom was right next to him oh this dude had to be like 30 some years old maybe even in his 40s
and he brought his mom to the fucking you can't bring your mom you can't bring your you gotta
leave her at home dude got it let her watch wheel of fortune and then the next
then the next uh one goes over and this guy was like i'm gonna call two witnesses
one of the witnesses here definite stripper um what about what about her like made you think
that she's a strip she had she's out of she's out of costume i'm imagining i want to say this as
respectfully as i can yeah she was very modestly dressed. Sure. As respectfully as I can,
she had some nice wamboms.
She had a nice... You can't say wamboms
to look at me, dude.
Boom bats.
She had...
Boom bats, right?
She literally...
I mean, like,
I think at this time in my life
I can know what a fake tit is
and what a real tit is.
Yeah.
Can you ask that as a juror?
Your Honor,
are they real or fake?
Honestly, I think you can't...
No, no,
because jurors are not supposed to talk. We're not supposed to talk until we deliberate. Sign? Maybe do sign language? No, I think the lawyers have to be like, are they real or fake honestly i think you can't no no because jurors are not supposed to talk we're not supposed to talk until we deliberate sign maybe do sign like no i think
the lawyers have to be like are those fake or real oh and they can object or they have to maybe
answer the question i think actually that would be i think if i was a judge i would have to let
that one go yeah you can't do anything about it like that's just one you could just slide in there
and be like are they fake she goes yeah and she goes your honor she lies about a lot of stuff yeah
i mean it was 80 degrees in there she's's dressed from head to toe, showing no skin, no nothing.
Didn't have any makeup on.
That public defender did a really good job of making her look like a victim in this thing,
even though she was the one being sued.
Yeah, she'd been a little stinky.
So were you a little bit disappointed that you couldn't keep hanging out at the thing?
No, not at all, because it's fun, but then it's like you get there and you just do a lot of sitting around.
It sucks.
Yeah, what's so bad about jury duty? Give me you get there and you just do a lot of sitting around. It sucks. Yeah, what's so bad about jury duty?
Give me like the skinny about.
It's a lot of sitting around, but it's also like we're allowed to be on our phones now.
Don't let anyone tell you that you're not allowed to be on your phone during the whole thing.
They don't care anymore.
Like subway surfers?
Like while they're like convicting somebody for life, you could just be on your phone?
Well, I mean, Matt, we're just sitting there in the courtroom.
Oh, true, true, true.
And usually they're trying to be like, no, you can't be on your phone well i mean matt we're just sitting there in the courtroom oh sure and usually they're trying to be like though you can't bring all of us were
on our phones yeah 27 of us waiting to get our number calls that we can get the hell out of
there and lot and not lie but you know say i was in the meeting yeah um i had to drop my stats it
was kind of sick your stats what are your stats how many how many followers you got you know what
do you do for a living she's like well the the trial is just going to be Monday and Tuesday.
Can you do it?
And I said, no, it's going to affect my endorsement deals.
Wow.
This guy makes me angry, but I love him.
I dropped the endorsement deals on her.
Technically, we have an endorsement.
Thrive.
Shout out to our boys at Thrive.
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A lot of people here could use some Thrive.
A lot of people here could be delivering Thrive as we speak, and they need it.
Yeah.
A lot of people could use some Thrive just to really calm them down.
As we continue out here, it is need it. Yeah. A lot of people could use some Thrive just to really calm them down. It's, as we continue out here,
it is getting insane.
Yeah.
I mean, people are fighting.
It's microphone versus microphone right now.
It seems terrifying.
I mean, you've got 17 different social causes going around.
Yeah.
Some people are just peppering it.
I don't know if you can see in one of the camera shots,
there are just people dressed as sharks being like,
oh, come on.
Yeah.
I would like to come here.
Like if me and my girlfriend get in a fight, I would just hold up a sign and be like, you don't have to be that loud when you're yelling at me.
You just have like a civil conversation and just walk around with that sign.
That's your platform.
Just talk to me like a person.
You don't have to tell me I'm getting fat.
Stuff like that.
I love it.
How was your week?
My week was good.
My week was a good bang and rang and good time.
I'm the hat guy now.
I've been workshopping this one.
I don't like that hat. I don't like Penn State.
Who do you like? Temple.
It's a little brother,
big brother thing that the big brother doesn't even
pay attention to you. Okay. Well, I
didn't go to either. I couldn't afford it.
Well, look, Temple stinks
out loud. Worst D1 football program?
Yeah, in the nation.
Yeah, they stink, man. Thank you.
Oh, it's a comic book about January 6th.
Oh.
Oh, sweet.
Oh.
Okay.
I think I'm featured in this.
Yeah.
If we can get eyes on this.
I think some of our listeners might be listening to this right now.
It's probably featured in this.
It's actually really well done.
I wonder who's the good guy and who's the bad guy.
I bet you I have an idea if they made a comic book who is the good and the bad.
First page I opened as a lady putting a bottle to somebody's face.
But no, my week was terrific.
I would have never thought I'd end up here's face. But no, my week was terrific.
I would have never thought I'd end up here.
But like I said, I'm the hat guy, dude.
As you get older, your hair starts to go, here I am.
There I go.
Stuff like that.
So I'm trying to go hat guy.
And it doesn't feel right, but the alternative might be worse.
Forward doesn't look right on you.
What do you think?
This one at least.
Backwards is... You don't think I look strong as hell?
Nah.
What about this?
I just don't think this's the right hat for you.
What do you mean?
I think it looks good.
It's a nice trucker.
Nah, I don't like how the front of it comes up a little bit.
It doesn't morph into your head that well.
Well, that goes back to my bad head.
I have a Cro-Magnum eyebrow that juts out, so my glasses push forward and then it holds
my hat up.
I'm in bad shape, dude.
Wow.
I might be screwed.
Holy shit.
That's like a cranium eye, like a bad cranium or something like that? Like, did you run into
like a banister
when you were younger? No.
Shout out Tiff Banister, but no.
I had the chromanium brow. Apparently
one of my ancestors made sweet, passionate
love to a Neanderthal, and it just
stuck in my bloodline. It's crazy.
My dad, growing up, would go up to me, like, while I was
sitting down, he would grab my eyebrow
from the top, pull it back, and he'd be like, ha ha'd be like so if you wondered why i do stand-up comedy that should
maybe answer i'll give the people i'll give the listeners a real look at this hold on damn dude
you do have crazy a crazy forehead you gotta get eyes on this i'll show the listeners from here
dude that's crazy okay get your hands on that dude right here go like that an extra in the
hills have eyes look like.
Oh my God, dude. Are you sure?
You didn't have a brainiac uncle or a brainiac cousin who was in Palo Alto,
not Palo Alto, wherever that bomb was back in the 40s, New Mexico?
No, I don't think any of my family had nuclear radiation that made my forehead this big.
I think it's just testosterone. I think I'm a high T guy.
I wish you didn't tell me that, man. Yeah, I know you're going to be mean about it.
No, because now I'm going to look at you differently all the time.
Yeah, you looked at me so fondly beforehand. Vito has one on. Vito has brought us on out.
Can you switch over to that side if you don't mind? Yeah. Thanks, bro.
How are you, brother? How you doing? I'm good.
Nice to meet you. Good. I'm Jeremy Griffin from the Green Party of Pennsylvania? How you doing? I'm good. Nice to meet you.
Good. I'm Jeremy Griffin from the Green Party of Pennsylvania.
How you doing? Green Party of Pennsylvania.
Yes.
So we're the MinuteWare podcast, and we were asking people,
we were coming here to ask people, like, who they're voting for,
slash how does it affect their work.
And I'm guessing since you're at the Green Party,
and off camera I see you carrying a Jill Stein for president sign,
I'm going to say that you're probably voting for Jill Stein.
Yes. Oh, certainly. She's the only choice we got. Got it. And I appreciate you,
brothers, because I run a podcast or two. Also, World of Controversy podcast. Yeah.
Jerm Griffin recording his archive. So thank y'all for doing this. Yeah, no problem.
Usually people wait till the end to drop their. I like a plug up.
You know, to get in here quickly. I like that. I front. That's okay. He knows what he's doing. Your ring party. You know to get in here quickly.
I like that.
I do like that.
So wait,
so obviously you're out here
campaigning for Joel Stein.
Is that your full-time job
or what else do you do?
Well, pretty much
I do some civil engineering aid.
Somebody gave us these.
Someone gave us these comic books.
Get the fuck out of here.
Quit bullying us.
It's always good to have some off-camera events happening around us as we're doing this podcast.
But anyway, so what do you do for a living?
You were rudely interrupted by this lady.
So civil engineering aid.
That's why I actually do a map underground utilities.
So I do a lot of infrastructure stuff. But on the side So I do a lot of infrastructure stuff.
But on the side, I do a lot of political stuff.
In charge of the Green Party of Pennsylvania, essentially.
So, yeah.
So how does Jill Stein being elected, how would that affect your job?
Jill Stein being elected would affect us a lot.
And I'm going to tell you why.
My personal job so she's really big in the infrastructure
and really big into making sure that infrastructure is um made by the people it creates jobs from the
working class and since i work in infrastructure um i think it would be great for um jill stein
to be elected yes i'm trying to listen to you lady is fucking just talking in the back of my ear.
I know.
These Trump people, I tell you.
Jesus Christ.
Hey, don't say the Lord's name in vain.
My fault.
Oh, wow.
Is the Green Party a religious party?
No.
You're just religious.
You're pro-Lord.
Okay, cool.
I'm pro-Lord.
No.
The fascinating thing I've noticed about Jill Stein is, is she a real person?
I keep hearing about her.
I've never seen anything about her.
Is she hot?
What does this look like?
How is she?
She's hot enough.
Okay.
So here's the thing.
Jill Stein, she is a real person.
She's from up there, Vermont.
Yeah, they all are.
So yeah, they all are.
Pretty much the Northeast states.
And that's why we don't really see her that much.
But Jill Stein is definitely a real person.
She's great.
Got it.
She's great.
So let's just call a spade a spade here.
Probably not going to win.
Maybe not.
I like that.
Mathematically.
Let's say that.
She has a chance to get enough electoral votes.
Mathematically, me and Matt have enough.
Yeah, we can get in there.
No, y'all don't because y'all not one of Bali.
Oh.
As you, as far as you know.
Yeah.
As far as I know.
It could be us three.
You might be fucked.
You might be lumped in with us, dude.
It might be us three running for office right now and you just found out.
How are you?
My name is Robert.
Oh, that's horrible.
Sorry. anyway.
Say Jill, you know,
unfortunately has a defeat.
Who's the best elect
after that for you and your job?
What your job was again?
Civil engineering aid.
Civil engineering aid. Who would be the best
person to be elected after that?
After Jill Stein? The brother Cornel West.
Damn, dude. Really now? Can you give me someone that, After Jill Stein? The brother, Cornel West. Damn, dude. Really now?
Can you give me someone that like, these names are just-
Cornel West.
Shout out to Cornel. He's the guy who did speeches for Obama, right?
Essentially, yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay. So he's running.
He is running.
Good to know.
Yeah.
He's running.
Okay, so if our brother in arms, Cornel West, doesn't win, who's the next best one?
No, listen. If you guys try win, who's the next best one?
If you guys try to dwindle the list down to Trump and Harris...
We're not.
That's not what we're here to do, dude.
I don't think we're here to watch dwindling the list.
I, for real, cannot read.
We're doing nothing, dude.
Society.
I wouldn't vote for either of those two
if they pay me.
So don't vote.
Down to those two, really, don't vote.
So a paycheck would sway your vote?
Listen to this.
The Green Party is the Green Party, dude.
He's looking for some real green.
The working class needs to make sure that Jill Stein is on the ballot.
We did that.
And the working class would love for Jill Stein to win the presidency of the United States.
That's all I can say.
Totally fair.
Okay.
What is it about her that, like, I mean, obviously you look to gravitate towards the two big parties.
How did you find your way to a very, like, secular third candidate?
That's a good question.
Thank you.
I was a part of the Green Party even as a teenager, okay?
And right now I'm, like, 28, 28 okay so i've been a part of this
party for a while i've taken a break i've come back um i'm probably i might take another break
sooner than later but um the green party is an important party because when we look at like
who's actually funded by corporations you gotta go green got it got to go green I'm technically part of the green party too, go birds
go birds, bleeding green if you will
there you go
now this is the angle we're coming from
if you could add a physical challenge
to the election, like everybody goes for
votes, intellects, debate, money
all these super PACs, if you could add
because I think you should have kind of a jacked
strong president or somebody able bodied can you come up with like one go-to
universal physical challenge for a candidate wow maybe like a left-hand layup oh beer mile beer
mile beer miles tough yeah true they need to play horse oh horse isn't bad awesome horse competition
right before the debate you don't, see who can, you know.
That's good, too, because it's hard to stay mad at somebody during a game of horse.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, right.
You might be buddies by the end.
Yeah, 100%.
They might all be on each other's campaign by the end of it.
Like, you know.
Like, you know what?
I really didn't like Harris's policies before, but fuck does she have a wicked jump shot.
God damn, is she nice on the court.
Yeah, dude.
Wow.
I love that. You know what? Trump pulls out a little hook shot.
He's a little older.
Yeah, if he's having a little bit of fun.
A couple cocktails.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, I'm not mad at that.
Oh, did you see that arc?
Yeah.
It's tough to vote against that.
Well, here's the thing.
If that happens, they all got to play basketball in North Korea.
You know, Kim Jong-un loves basketball.
You know what I mean?
He does love basketball.
Yeah, but he might be the worst of the worst.
There's no way Kim Jong-un can hoop.
There's just no way.
I don't know, man.
I mean, something about Dennis Rodman.
I feel like you get a little bit of a pass.
You think Kim Jong-un's like an offensive rebound type guy?
Like he really pounds the boards?
No, no, no.
Well, I guess so.
His handles might be ridiculous.
What are you talking about?
Because he's low to the ground.
True.
Like there's no shot he can get a jumper off, though.
But, you know, obviously, all
his constituents and everything, they let him probably
score. It's like when Putin would play
in a charity hockey game, he had 72 goals.
True, yeah.
Absolutely.
So,
does Jill have another four years in her
after, in case she loses this one?
This is, I believe, her third time running
for president.
Wow. And I don't't know i'm not sure if she has another one in her but i will say this
if you're from this area philadelphia area you really should be voting for jill first time she
ran her vice presidential candidate was sherry hankler who is based in philadelphia so um another
reason why if we're in this area,
you got to get on the Jill Stein campaign.
I'm telling y'all.
I'm telling you.
I'm undecided, so.
We're here to listen and learn a little bit, honestly.
We're just kind of gathering opinions for the most part.
Well, if you're undecided,
this is the decision you can make right now.
First decision is you got to make Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, right?
Yes, ma'am. First. Yes, sir. Second decision, you got to make Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, right? Yes, ma'am.
First.
Yes, sir.
Second decision, you got to vote for Jill Stein.
All right.
Now, there's a little bit of space in between those two decisions on how important they are,
but you got to do both, right?
Father, son, Jill Stein.
There you go.
The Holy Trinity. Now, my last question I'll ask you, and then you could,
you're obviously very devout. I'm assuming Christian.
Yes.
Going back to basketball, if you blow by Jesus and you're going to the rim for an open layup,
do you take it?
Do you think he would want you to succeed?
Or do you think it'd kind of be like, I can't just kind of go for two on the Lord?
Wow.
That's what's tough.
Now you got to wonder about what his things are.
Like he wants you to succeed.
He loves you.
You're his child.
Sacrificed himself for you.
But is he going to look at you and be like, that was a carry?
Is that a sin?
That might be a sin.
If you score on Jesus?
If you cross him up.
He's not good with crosses.
He hates crosses.
He does. This is a wild hypothetical.
Yeah.
Of course.
That's why we're here.
This is your sound clip of the day.
Okay.
I would dunk on Jesus.
I swear.
I have no doubt.
I would dunk on Jesus, man. He understands no doubt, I would dunk on Jesus, man.
He understands.
No, he do believe
in humbleness.
That's why I would've been like,
no, Jesus,
but you got it though.
I know it was a foul.
I get it.
But no,
you know,
you do gotta take advantage
when it,
yeah,
you gotta take advantage of that.
Is that one of the seven deadly sins?
Dunking on Jesus?
Dunking on Jesus.
It must be, dude.
Hey,
Jerome Griffin,
World of Controversy podcast controversy podcast brother thank you so much
man hey have a good day stay safe jill stein 2024 we appreciate you that guy dunks on jesus
amen dude i'm gonna dunk on i don't know hitting him with the crown of thorns baby what up
hello folks damn yo how about that fucking crazy bitch behind us i had a line i was like just
please enough she was like you have a january 6th lie and I was like, just please, enough. She was like, you have a January 6th comic.
And I was like, okay, I can see how you'd think.
Why didn't you just tell her that the woman gave it to us?
That's what I said. She was like, oh.
Then I said it again. She was like, oh.
It's kind of funny, the conviction falls pretty quick
when you just hit him with like a, I don't care.
Yeah, okay.
You're not going to fight me back?
It's like, nah, sorry, dude.
Also, we don't care and have zero influence of our voters whatsoever.
Yeah, dude, we just talked to a guy named stein and thinks that she's got a chance which
i kind of love i agree that guy rules that guy is the man we should spend more time in just a
sense of delusion in this world it would be amazing i actually people who like just are the
most delusional people in the world i actually envy yeah really just you don't you don't let
like the real world bother you You don't think you'd get
kind of like, it's like little kid syndrome. You don't think you'd get sick of that? I
don't think you can. I think if you're in a state of delusion, you're just a delusional
human being and you never really get out of it. True. Fair. No, I mean, I don't think
you're living your best life. You're probably not like a millionaire and everything, but
you're probably living squalor if you're delusional because you've got to have some kind of common
sense, right? Am I right? I kind of agree with you.
I'm on you a little bit.
You got to have a little bit of common sense.
I'm with that.
And girls kind of like that.
You think you wouldn't be able to, like, find a wife?
Girls kind of like a totally infantilized grown man.
Until you graduate college.
And then maybe for a little bit, couple more years.
Okay.
And then you're kind of like the dude who got, like, I have a buddy who got so many girls in high school.
Yeah.
Hasn't had a girlfriend in probably almost like seven years.
Yeah.
When they start caring about like your literacy and your bank account, it starts to get a
little tough afterwards.
But he was a good dude.
Just kind of delusional a little bit.
Okay.
Not bad.
Not the best kind of sense.
Love the guy.
Going to be in my grooms party, my grooming party.
But, uh, but, uh, but truth hurts.
Pete Diddy had a lot of grooming parties.
Groomsmen parties. Whoopsie daisy. Speaking of of that i think my girlfriend's gonna leave me why what did you see my video
did i ever dude in the shower not my proudest yank but yeah i watched it
tell me about this give me the back give me the behind the scenes imagine explaining that to cast
like hey i'm gonna get naked there's
a scene from goodfellas i'm gonna need you to film real quick did you get butt naked butt naked it's
just you're like shoulder blades up why i know i don't know but like do you want me to like i
don't want to be on my shorts in the shower then i gotta like get out with like i mean it takes a
little bit long to do this scene okay i'm not a thespian all right there's like three or four
takes and i actually was really impressed about how long it actually took okay 10 to 15 minutes it was great to do thank
you man i appreciate it but i mean like you know she's a real one she's absolutely a real one i
mean she's a real one you think about like so you're you're butt naked in the shower and you're
like babe one more time it's not good yeah oh 100 really yeah i was like oh that see that one was
too you know you got to get a tight shot.
I was giving her like, I was like fucking Stanley Kubrick in there.
It's like, tight shot.
Now, give me the phone.
I got to get a Northern profile.
Yeah, you need a Northern profile.
Like, just, you know, I was coaching her through it.
And you know what?
We got it done in like 10 to 15 minutes right before the 1 o'clock games came on.
Not bad.
Not bad at all.
No, I was happy with it.
That's got to be a little spooky, though, because I think about like all the different times i get nervous and my wee wee shrinks up acting wee wee's got to be the
tiniest of all yeah dude oh i hope she didn't look i didn't even think about that i think she
glimpsed she's holding the camera here and she's looking down she's like i made a mistake dude a
soft peen is so bad it's soft acting pee that's crazy dude every time i've acted in anything i
know that my thing is shrunk up inside of my sternum.
Getting on stage, are you soft as a tissue?
I flux way back.
I think I get harder and softer throughout.
You're in a burner on stage?
A little bit, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
A little bit soft.
So if I was on stage, I'd probably go hand in pocket
and try to kind of put my hand in my pocket a little bit.
Yeah.
Because usually I'm a big waistband guy. Oh, up oh i tuck up that's crazy the tuck up's
always been nuts really i pinch between and it hurts so bad and i just make it oh you gotta do
the tuck up dude that's it's just it's just not as i think a pinch between is a move yeah dude
we're talking about we're just talking about you dude yeah we're talking about what you do when um
when you have a boner on stage because he's a comedian. So I do the tuck up.
I thought I was the only one.
Yeah, so I do the tuck up.
What is the crowd looking like if you're getting a boner?
That's a good question.
Well, you either enter like...
What's the age range here?
Adults.
Okay, good.
Grown up adults.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're not daycares, you know.
Borderline 70.
So he's a comedian and stuff, so.
I'm going to go talk.
Yeah.
So yeah, so he does, what do you do?
I pinch below
Between the legs
And I clench
Really?
It hurts so god damn bad
You know the old
Strap method
He doesn't tuck up too
Yeah they say beauty is pain
And you guys need to learn
About that dude
Wait so you pinch
And where do you put it?
Right between the thighs
Between
So you let it
Stretch the whole time?
You got Buffalo Bill
From Signs of the Land
How big is your shit?
Be honest
Awfully small
I walk like
There's a strong gust of wind.
You don't look like me.
Nine.
Okay, I'm lying.
Yeah, of course you're lying, dude.
So what's up?
What's your name?
I'm Ash, bro.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
I'm Kyle.
We're actually rolling right now, too.
Yeah, I know.
I saw that.
I'm playing both sides today.
I got Kamala Harris on the here.
Nice.
True.
Yeah.
Kind of like a whoever wins.
Kind of feeling purple today.
Guessing you're a YouTuber?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cool.
You got a full-time job or are you just a YouTuber?
Oh.
Ah.
Play of words.
No, it's my full-time job.
It's your full-time job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cool, cool, cool.
So actually, so we're, the podcast that we run is called Men at Work.
So originally we usually ask people like what they do for a living.
Right.
Here we're kind of asking people like what you do for a living.
Obviously a YouTuber.
And then like if Trump was elected, how would it, would it better your job? Oh. Or if Kamala elected, how would it better your job?
If Kamala got elected, would it better your job?
Who getting picked would
be better for you?
I don't
see how... I don't know.
I've just seen more shit of Kamala
being dumb.
So your content
doesn't matter.
I don't think it matters at all.
There's a lot more real problems than me about my YouTube videos. So your content, it doesn't matter your content? Yeah, no, I don't think it matters at all, to be honest.
There's a lot more real problems than me about my YouTube videos.
I'll be fine.
All content creators will be fine.
Well, yeah, yeah.
What content do you do?
What kind?
Just kind of mic up, vlog, go around, talk to people.
Yeah, here and there.
I'm more leading towards just vlogging.
So what do you do here now? Here in Philly? for the debate just to like i don't mess with some people
rage bait i have trump on i have kamala harris on nice you know go undercover has anybody given
you a shit about i just got here i just saw you guys with the table i was like i want to talk to
them yeah we're hard to rage bait we can't even read either of your shirts so we're not going to
really be able to give you too much of a reaction we can't read either of your shirts oh really yeah
why we're uh two products of the ph to give you too much of a reaction. We can't read either of your shirts. Oh, really? Yeah. Why?
We're two products
of the Philly public school system.
What does that mean?
Schools ain't that good here, dude.
Oh.
Yeah, we're not doing well.
So what is the idea?
So you're going to go around
and you're going to show people
all my shirt?
Okay, so if there's a group
of Kamala Harris supporters,
I'll just go there
with my Kamala Harris shirt
and be like,
yeah, fuck Trump.
Oh, wow. Get them riled up, right right and then like underneath be like take it off and then just you know maybe
and then just some other like random conversations and just mess around okay nice nothing like too
harmful but like you know how people get here or not here in philly but like in general yeah
with political parties and shit they'll they'll tweak you out about anything. Sure. Yeah.
How old are you, by the way?
No, no.
I'm 22.
I just turned 22.
Okay.
So you're not going to go over to America anytime soon.
Have you worked like an actual desk job or like a regular job? Not a desk job, but I did detail for like half a year, like card detailing.
Yeah.
Under the table, kind of.
I wasn't able to work before that, even though I wanted to, because I didn't have like my
green card.
I wasn't born here.
Oh, shit.
Oh, wow.
I was born in the Middle East.
So I wasn't able to, you know, I wanted to work couldn't yeah when'd you come over what when'd you come over i was in like i was like four years old cool okay but it takes a long time
to get like your green card and you got it now immigration yeah yeah i'm still not a citizen
though really trying to i still have like two more years i just got my green card but once you get
the green card it's kind of like that's like the Willy Wonka golden ticket, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you might want to start taking politics a little more seriously.
No, no.
I'm more into like politics that I don't have to do with the U.S.
Just like more like overseas, at least Middle East.
Can you get deported still or no?
I'm sure if I do like a crazy felony.
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
You're doing this YouTube shit.
No, no, no, no.
But we don't do anything crazy.
We're not putting buckets on people's heads.
We're not, we're not like, you know.
I think you're, I don't know.
How many, uh, what's your most viewed video yet?
Uh, five point something mil.
Okay.
Oh shit.
So you've been there.
Yeah.
But that was like a, that was like me going to, I got invited to like a hood and they
had a cookout and I was just like messing around with all of them.
And then it was just, it was good vibes. Like I was fucking to like a hood And they had a cookout And I was just like Messing around with all of them And then It was just
It was good vibes
Like I was fucking with them
They were fucking back with me
You know what I'm saying
Yeah cause I was just saying
Like man like
That would kind of
Scare the shit out of me
Until I got like
My citizenship
Because I would be like
Oh no
You get that taste
You get that 5.7 million taste
You keep
Yeah no no no
I'm not like a
Shit gets crazier
Shit gets crazier
Shit gets crazier
Then you're putting
Puckets on people's head.
A lot of people that do
the prank scene or whatever
is a bunch of dumbass kids
that just go and try
to piss someone off
and hopefully get a good clip,
but there's no longevity in that.
Yeah, I hate that fucking content.
You can't.
People want to watch a video
and feel good.
They don't want to watch you
go and get attacked every time.
We'll get attacked though sometimes
just for filming.
People freak out about the camera.
Yeah, it's kind of generational
a little bit. If someone's nice about it, like, hey, I don't want to be recorded, cool, freak out about the camera. Yeah. It's kind of generational a little bit.
If someone's like nice about it, like, hey, I don't want to be recorded.
Cool.
I'm out of here.
Right.
But if they're like immediately on some like OD shit, like, fuck you, trying to grab the
camera right away.
It's like, all right, well, you're asking for it.
Now I'm going to like, I'm going to mess with you a little bit and I'm going to walk away.
What's the craziest one that you've had?
Like an interaction where you're trying to talk to somebody and they just went berserk.
You have anything like that where they just go nuts uh like yeah i mean i've had people like grab the camera
like hit me punch me like push me i had a biker like try to swing at me it's always the bikers
yeah he swung a miss because i got that yeah that head wave did yeah but i'm yeah is this it though
sorry so it was it was pretty good for about the last 30, 45 minutes.
You're lying.
And then I think
it kind of has dispersed.
Oddly enough,
I thought it would get crazier,
but go fuck around
with those guys.
Those guys suck.
Over there?
Yeah, they obey Jesus, guys.
I don't like to step
in like the religion.
It's not though.
They just mess with people.
Ask them if they ever,
ask them if they'd be happier
if they masturbated more.
They probably would say yes.
You could hit them
with like the TikTok stuff
and be like,
how many bodies
do you guys have?
Nah, I don't know. Anything with religion, I try to respect
everyone.
He's an upstanding guy.
5.7 mil views.
You guys are cool.
Hope you guys have a good day.
Good luck, man.
What were we talking about?
Talking to boners.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it was kind of a good conversation.
They came on here and I was like, I don't think he thought we were going to be like
as cool, as fucking cool as we are.
Cool and quick, honestly.
Dude, we...
I don't want to brag.
What's that?
One of the seven daily sins.
Mm-hmm.
Humble.
Humble.
But man, do we disarm people.
God, we go.
For how cool we are sometimes.
Guys, don't worry about us.
Our entire podcast should be called,
guys, don't even worry about us.
How you doing?
You right there, sir,
putting the camera up right towards us.
Don't even worry about us.
I want this footage.
Send this to my mom.
I want this footage.
My mom's scrapbooking.
Send it to her, please.
She's a good lady.
Where are you from?
Portugal.
You want to sit and talk to us for a little bit?
We just interviewed random people.
You have to stream live in 30 minutes?
Well, then you got 10 minutes for us.
Are we going to be on it?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's fine.
We're not worried about it.
We're just curious.
Honestly.
We're just kind of hanging out, dude.
Hey, welcome.
Yeah.
Hang 10.
I had a La Cologne call.
You guys from Portugal too?
No.
Where are you from?
I was going to say the Bronx.
You want to sit and talk to us for a little bit?
Yeah, dude.
Come hang out, dude.
Come on, hang out.
You could be on the Portugal news.
Take it.
Dude, you could sit here and record us.
Hell yeah.
Take a load off, man.
Hey, go Portugal.
Hell yeah.
Shout out to Casio Watch, dude.
Shout out to Cristiano Ronaldo.
I feel like I've seen you guys on TikTok.
Oh, I appreciate that.
That's why I came out over here.
Yeah, sweet. I think you guys. Wow. The feel like I've seen you guys on TikTok. Oh, I appreciate that. That's why I came out over here. Yeah, sweet.
Wow. The algorithm is working.
The algo. Are you guys from Philly?
South Jersey and right outside of Philadelphia.
Oh, we're just about. Depends how far we are from Philadelphia. Did we just say we're from Philadelphia?
Pretty much. That's how it usually goes around here. We're proximity
whores. Yeah. What's your name? Tomas.
Tomas. Tomas. So welcome. We're
the Minute Work podcast. We just ask you what they
do for a living.
And then today's episode, we're trying to kind of relate it back to who you're voting for and how it affects your job and everything.
Cool.
What do you do?
In terms of money, I'm unemployed and I'm on unemployment.
I have a math degree, a bachelor's degree in math.
And I recently was laid off last May in project management and marketing.
Okay.
Trying to get back into doing like data analytics and stuff.
And then I do like documentary photography as like a fine art practice.
And that's, you know, the goal is to make money doing that.
But it's with documentary photography, it's not very lucrative.
It's a grind, baby.
For now, for now.
Yeah, exactly.
So can you tell us who you're voting for?
Because that's kind of the point of the vote.
Yeah, certainly.
At this moment, I'm voting for Kamala Harris.
Got it.
Is anything going to sway you tonight?
No.
Okay.
What happens tonight isn't really what I would say, like, at the moment.
It's more her other, like, policies outside of the U.S. that I really am less excited about.
Got it.
Got it.
And then so you're unemployed right now.
Absolutely.
Who would be better for winning?
Who would it be better for you if they won?
I think Kamala again, obviously.
But I think that what's important is that we need to be mindful of open class people or working class people.
And like I obviously have like I'm an educated person.
I'm like a hardworking person.
I'm not unemployed for being any like lazy or whatever.
Like I'm not gaming the system.
And I think that that like I think Kamala has a lot more empathy and respect for people who are like working class and unemployed and like who need help from the system, which is like these, you know, social programs that we have, like food stamps and unemployment and welfare and disability.
Like the majority of the people that are on it, I believe, are not trying to gain the system i think that they actually need it and like i need it like if i wouldn't be able to like eat and pay my rent if i didn't have unemployment
right now and um i got laid off because of like lack of work it was like tech layoffs and stuff
so it wasn't performance yeah it wasn't performance i did like the last job i had was like a uh service
job at a grocery store and i quit because I was like my manager was
racist. And so that's why that's how I got unemployment. Now I filed a claim and I was
able to get like unemployment because of all of these situations that happened at work.
So it just seems like stuff is just stacking on top of each other right now and you can't get
your break. Yeah. And it's like even a service job that was part time, like I couldn't like get back on my feet.
It was just like basically filling the time until my like new unemployment came reopened.
And then I'm also like making more money on unemployment than I was making part time.
Yeah, not bad.
Which is great now, but it also like it stinks.
So I just don't want not only me, but other working class people to have to like deal with the instability that
I've had.
And like,
fortunately my family is helpful and like my partner is helpful.
Um,
but not everybody,
like some people are a few paychecks away from like being homeless and living
in Philly.
I live near Kensington,
which is where the largest open air drug market is.
Like I know, I know what it looks like.
If someone drugs it on the table, even though it's lucrative right down the street.
Exactly.
Big chunk of change.
Yeah, it's pretty sweet.
Yeah.
Just a couple of picks.
Yeah, exactly.
And like, I think that's really important is that like the people who make up the city
are working class people.
And like the city is built on that, just like America.
And so I think that she is better for that.
And she beyond any policy stuff, I think her compassion as a human being is what we need as working class people when we have struggles like this and not like blame or judgment.
Like, again, I'm not like I'm not gaming the system.
It's not I don't believe it's my fault that I'm unemployed either.
So I think in that same way, you're pretty like a dude who has some common sense and, you know, can talk to people and work a nine
to five and stuff. Um, if you did get like the, uh, say you went back and got like the data
analytics job. Um, is there any semblance of anything that you can say like, okay,
Trump would actually be good for that? Cause I honestly don't even know like what he'd be good
if he was in data or marketing analytics. I think to keep some of my own politics personal, I think that there's a lot of other like outside of that, I guess not really answering your question, like outside of that specifically, like my job wouldn't dictate, I think, who I would vote for.
And like my income wouldn't dictate that because of think now I do.
I do. If it's higher earning, though, I always wonder like how that might shift... Think now? I do. I do.
If it's higher earning, though, I always wonder like how that might shift.
If you start to earn more and more money, if you start to... It might shift your politics.
Now, obviously, we're not making any money.
No, no.
We can't really come from any...
I wish I could answer that question as much as you can.
I know many people who are...
I wish I liked Trump from this podcast.
Who are like, oh, I'm fiscally conservative.
But I think like even those...
Like regardless of how much money i have
like my mother's an immigrant i'm hispanic uh i'm queer like regardless of how much money i have
yeah you're you're a liberal bingo board right it doesn't matter to me like i would use that money
for like giving back and like obviously it's easy for me to say like with no, you know, no job, no money to be like, well, I would be giving it back. But I, I don't believe that, like,
I don't believe capital should dictate laws. And like, I don't believe capital should dictate the
way the country runs. And so regardless of how much money I have, like I would be trying to
stop that, like stop the control, like capital being what controls us yeah and like now how's that
work when you go back to the full-time job and stuff because you will probably be working in
a corporate america which is a if you if if you they don't make money obviously you've been a
part of it you know tech i guess wasn't making money they did some layoffs and stuff is that
kind of like it kind of sucks because i always like laugh at people not laugh at people but i
always think like you know people are like i can't believe this is happening blah blah blah blah they like tweet all this shit and it's like well you're
tweeting on an iphone that's made by like a chinese slave and stuff so i think there's always
like a contradictory model to everything yeah so like what do you think about that how it's like
is that like a conflict of interest that you're like probably going to go back to a capitalist
yeah society i think that i at this moment again as like a working class person, I don't have a choice.
So like, I don't have the like means to leave this country, which is for me, my ideal.
Like, I don't, I don't like, I want to, as a son of an immigrant, like, I don't want to get out.
Yeah. I want to go back to the Dominican Republic where my mom was born.
Like, and I think to answer your question though, like, and I probably sound like a broken record,
like there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. And so like I, I have to feed myself and I have to pay my rent and I have to like put clothes on my back.
And the only way for me to do that is to work a job.
So just dealing the cards that are dealt is basically the larger.
So I always wondered about this. I mean, and you seem like an extraordinarily empathetic person.
You talk about you give back money. Is there any like does the empathy extend to maybe the other side where they're coming from a position of like maybe the capital does dictate them?
It's dictated their life, not saying they're right. But can you look at them and go, OK, I can understand at least where you're coming from in this regard.
It's all you've ever known. Does that ever like seep into it?
Yeah, I grew up in Morgantown west virginia near uh west virginia university
how the hell did you get over here yeah yeah um so a lot of i can get into that how i got here but
a lot of what i grew up with was like being surrounded by a lot of i would say like republican
and trump supporters especially when i was in high school like i graduated high school in 2017
so like the middle of my high school was the first Trump election sure and so it was like oh like we none of us
can vote so we're all just gonna like yell at each other in class about what
we believe in and like it was fortunate that like I lived in a place like
unfortunate for me that I was like on outnumbered like it was like everybody
that was peers was like oh I like Trump for this reason and that reason I'm like
what about these reasons?
Yeah, like your classmates are like pulling their lips away from their cousin
to yell at you about why Trump's good.
It's got to be an exhausting thing to deal with.
But I think that as like as I've grown up,
I've learned that exactly what you're saying,
like in West Virginia is the perfect example.
They talk about any time you go to West Virginia,
they talk about McDowell County,
which is the poorest like county district in the country and also in West Virginia.
And like I think if you were to go to a place like that, it looks like it's the 1800s still.
Right.
With some electricity.
And so it's hard to like.
Yes, I can expect like a certain level of intelligence and a certain level of understanding from everybody.
But when they don't even have Walmart, like those specific people, like Walmart doesn't exist in
McDowell County. Like it's hard to, it's hard to be like, well, like you're ignorant. What's like,
yeah, of course, because you haven't had the access to the same like information that I do
or the same, like, just like media or like, like like people that are here like even this is all
influential to your beliefs like any interaction you have and so the lack of interactions and the
lack of you know business and the lack of this and that and the other thing like nobody none of the
none of the candidates go to McDowell County to talk about what they have like neither of the
candidates yeah and so I think I think from that perspective like I I learned that like Neither of the candidates. still be like, hey, I think that this is wrong or like this is my belief. And like, I'm going to educate you on it.
You don't have to agree with it.
You don't have to move forward on it.
But like every person, regardless of their belief, is able to learn.
Sure.
Because how else can they have beliefs?
So and I think that's I think I I'm on the same page as you.
I always wonder, and this is not me just trying to refute things you're saying.
It's just to make interesting conversation.
I think sometimes that standpoint of these people can
learn, they just don't know. I think that can be the grandstanding can rub people the wrong way,
where it almost makes them kind of suck back into themselves where you're telling them,
I know more than you do. Let me explain to you why you're wrong. As opposed to saying,
let me relate to like, you're the poorest County in the Northeast or wherever you're at. Like,
how do you, how do you go about kind of deconstructing them wanting to suck into their own egos
when they're told, oh, you don't know as much as me.
Let me help you out.
And then again, do they ever want to change?
Changing sucks.
It's almost impossible.
I think there's multiple situations.
For instance, if you're at work in a service industry job and a customer
says something that you maybe don't agree with, like for me, I like in that position, I wasn't
gonna like, I wasn't going to go up to them and be like, Hey, I don't really agree with that
because it's not like, I call it like, it's not a teaching moment. And it's not a moment to be like,
Hey, like you made somebody feel this way or you like hurt somebody.
Like, let's talk about why.
Not even like this is my belief.
It's just like, hey, like you've created some level of harm, whether it's emotional, physical, whatever.
Like, let's have a conversation about why you like why you did this and why this person is harmed.
Because if you didn't like the classic, like, I don't assume malicious intent. Like I never do like
can get me, can it get me burned? Absolutely. But like, if you go at it with that, like I'm the one
who's in charge of how I react to things. And if I understand in the, you know, after understanding,
like learning about the situation that you had malicious intent, like then I can act.
But if like, like you guys are asking me these questions like I'm not
being like oh you guys don't like me or you don't like this like I'm just trying to understand like
give you my answers and know that you're trying to understand or like you're existing for yourselves
and so I think again similar to that like I don't like I I and my friends will say this too like I
don't like being known as like better than somebody or like i don't want to be like i'm better than you even if it's like objective like sports like
oh i can shoot the ball better like it's not something that i guess i like enjoy feeling
and so it what's more important to me is that like we can find common ground like you're saying
and like that you are like you and me both are educatable and so if you have something that
i'm unaware of like i'm gonna meet you at that level too and say,
okay, I want that information even if it's not something that...
I know you necessarily agree with me.
You seem like you have really peaceful MJ versus LeBron conversations.
Yeah.
LeBron.
That's what I knew.
Let's fucking go.
But LeBron, I mean, if you want to get there.
I don't want to get there.
LeBron has objectively been good for longer.
So, like, if, like, regardless of even skill.
Jordan did average 20 points a game at 39, 40 years old.
And they didn't make the playoffs.
I know.
I'm just saying that.
Right.
I think, you know, yeah.
They did go, like, 20 and 60.
It does feel like Michael Jordan is kind of a Republican pick
and LeBron is kind of a Democrat pick.
Mmm.
Deep down somehow
in my heart.
Republicans buy shoes too
like you said.
That's true.
LeBron did speak out
against Hong Kong
in free speech
against Daryl Morey.
He did not speak out
against Hong Kong.
Mal LeBron?
Mal LeBron.
CCP LeBron.
What was your name again?
Tomas.
Tomas.
Tomas.
Thank you so much.
I'm sorry.
It was great meeting you, man.
Great job, man.
I think we would fucking
kill it as a country if we had more people like you who were just
like, I don't agree with everything you say, but like, I'm going to have a conversation
with you and it's not going to go too, too high, too low.
And just hear where you came from.
And I think, you know, I think, like I said, and what's important to me is that everybody
is capable of learning.
And so we don't have to treat people as if they're, they're like closed off.
Like some people are.
And the older you get, I do believe that you get more closed off because you become more ingrained in it.
But I still believe that.
I've taught my mom, who's 62 or whatever, I've taught her new things and new ways to look at things that I think that she's gained from.
And yeah, I think that's kind of all.
Sick, bro.
Share experiences, baby.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you guys.
Appreciate you, brother.
You guys are great.
Thanks, Kevin.
A lot of fun.
Good luck on the job hunt.
Oh, man.
I want a Trump supporter, so I kind of have to.
Hey, big dog.
Big dog.
How you doing, man?
Yeah, take your time.
You got some precious cargo.
How's everything going?
Good, good, good.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Cool.
So I'm Kyle.
This is Matt.
Let me guess who you're voting for.
Good guess.
So what brought you to the Kamala Harris debate?
Yeah.
What you got?
You're going to record us so that we don't do any of this fake news media bullshit?
Oh, you know what?
I was going to say, I hope we're not the fake news.
No, we're not the fake news.
We're just a podcast.
Academy of the people.
We're just a podcast on YouTube.
But we actually, we're a podcast called Men at Work.
So we just go around places typically and ask people what they do for a living.
Now, what do you do for a living?
Well, I just.
Make sure you're talking to the mic.
Okay.
I don't want to. I have an hourly job. I don't want to mention
my employer, but I also...
Yes, customer service.
And I also
am an independent contractor.
I clean
businesses. Got it. And so,
you obviously want Trump to win. Oh, of course.
And why would Trump winning
be good for your job in customer service
as well as an independent contractor? Oh, well, I mean, economy is number one. It all boils down to
drill, baby, drill. So everything is more expensive because of the new green, the green
new scam, whatever you want to call it, the new green scam.
You know, Kamala, she says, oh, I'm against fracking in 2019.
And then she tries to cover it up in 2020.
She said she changed her mind and she said so when she was running for vice president. And now she's holding that she hasn't changed her mind.
But she was totally against fracking in 2019.
She's a fraud.
She doesn't want to talk.
She can't talk. I'm surprised they're doing a debate tonight. Yeah. Well, she's a firm prosecutor. I'm actually kind of interested to see her. Yeah. So fracking, you talked about
fracking. Yeah. How does that, is that just you as a, as a person that you care about that policy
or does fracking also help your, your work life? Well, it just helps my grocery bills and my gas bills.
Somebody owes me gas money because ever since they shut off the pipeline
and they don't want the pipeline in America here,
and Joe has pretty much shut down oil,
we could be independently.
We were independent as far as energy production.
We were actually exporting oil.
So that affects our grocery bills because everything costs more to transport the food,
to run the farm equipment, to run the buildings with the refrigeration,
and also to my gas bill, also my gasoline bill, and also to, uh, my gas bill.
Also my, my gasoline bill and also my electricity went up. Okay. What's a, what's a grocery bill look like you? When you're hitting like a Trader Joe's or something like that, what do you, what
do you, what are you grabbing while you're there? Um, are you a meats guy? Strike me as a meats guy.
Strike me as a big red meat guy. Big kind of like steaks and potatoes. Uh, well I'm low carb,
so I do. Really? That's a little bit Kamala if you're a low carb.
Oh, is it?
Kind of a liberal diet if you ask me.
All right.
Okay.
So, uh, no, I mean, I don't know what the percentage is, but they have a broken down
to the, are we paying like three or four times more, you know, on an average?
It's up there.
Big talk.
I won't disagree with you.
Okay.
I've noticed it in my pocket.
I'm sure you've noticed it in my pocket, in your pocket.
Eggs are out of control.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah, you got that.
They really don't want us eating meat.
They'd rather have us eating bugs if you talk to some of them, you know?
So you think—
And actually, let me interject.
Bugs, our bodies, humans were not made to really...
Eat bugs. To eat bugs, yeah.
If you're a hunter-gatherer. There's a science...
I ate a couple bugs as a kid, and I'm like 6'2".
I feel like that's pretty good. Something about
the enzyme or whatever. I'm going to look into it more,
but I know John the Baptist ate bugs
in the desert, but... Sure. And he's a saint?
Yeah, so I don't
know. I want to examine that,
but I could believe that we're not made to eat bugs.
Trump wins in November.
Groceries are going down.
Gas is going down.
Right.
Okay.
And then also, well, the enemy of the people are the fake news, as you know.
So we have to protect freedom of speech.
You know, I think.
I would say those people have too much freedom of speech. You know, I think... I would say those people have too much freedom
of speech. Perhaps.
Journalism, I think
we can all be adults here
and just be like, journalism has gone downhill.
Oh yeah, yeah, if you want to call it journalism.
There's no one doing real...
There's like 1% of people doing real journalism.
I mean, the amount of shit that they've tried to
cancel people for, or do this, or do that for,
and then have to retract it, and never really actually come out and retract.
Right. But always have like this little blurb down at the bottom of the thing after you read, you know, seven different paragraphs like that.
That I actually do agree with you.
I'm like not typically fake news.
I do think journalists are still good, but there's also some journalists that are like, how the fuck did you get this job?
Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Well, I mean, they're getting paid a lot of money to lie.
What I was going to say is like, as far as us getting in,
I think that's going to be protected or not to be allowed to be attacked.
The government under Biden, they admit it.
Actually, Mark Zuckerberg just came out saying that the government was pressuring
him to censor. So as far as the government in cahoots with the enemy of the people, that's
going to come to an end.
But I wonder if, I mean, I think Facebook might need to be censored. My mom is just
on there far too. My mom and my grandmom, you'd be shocked by the amount of Snoopy things they repost
on Facebook. When's the last time you reposted status
on Facebook? No, I actually don't do
Facebook. What do you do? True social?
MySpace? No, I really
don't. This is my social right here.
I was going to say, though, you should
become a content creator because now Russia is paying
people $400,000 a month just
to do conservative media. I got
interviewed from some guy from Russia.
Yeah.
Now, I would think maybe I should.
I was told I should have a YouTube channel.
You really should.
I had a lot of fun walking around with him.
Did I tell you?
10 to 1, I've been walking around with him since Mar-a-Lago.
A month after they invaded Mar-a-Lago illegally, you know, to seize documents, I invented him. You invented him after they invaded Mar-a-Lago illegally, you know, to seize documents. I invented him.
You invented him after they invaded Mar-a-Lago?
Yeah, a month later, you know, I created him.
What was the inspiration?
Yeah, Mar-a-Lago was the inspiration.
I don't know.
I mean, just I thought of it.
And so anyhow.
What do you call it?
Like Trump's scarecrow?
No, I call him the Donald.
The Donnie?
Does he get taken apart when you go home at night or does he stay like that?
No, no.
But I did have to update him after he got shot.
You did?
You did.
Yeah, it's on Facebook.
Sure, yeah, yeah.
And just for fun, before I cut the wood, I checked out how tall he was.
It's cut six feet, two inches.
That can't be true.
Can I get a measurement?
Are you 6'5"?
I'm 6'1", 6'2".
I think you've got to be the one.
We'll see if I measure correctly.
I do appreciate how authentic it is.
We're going from the pre-shot Donald Trump.
No, go for it.
Post-shot Donald Trump.
Wait, you know what?
I want to take my bag.
What do you think?
Does it look true to size?
6'2"?
White guys for Trump.
I have a little story on his eyes.
I had to steal my granddaughter's
Blue Magic marker
to do the eyes.
Stop the steal, dude.
Stop the steal.
I know. So anyhow, there'll be big changes like i said the economy i expect to
do better the uh actually we need the justice um i mean a lot of the courts are corrupt and with
all the fake indictments or whatever i believe that's going to start getting cleaned up also
uh we'll be in office.
Jamming down our throat what they want to feed the kids in public school.
That's going to be, you know.
What are they feeding the kids?
Low carb diets?
Yeah.
No.
Well, we know they want them to have sex changes behind their parents' back.
And, you know, are you really, yeah.
Are you really a boy or a girl?
Or, you know, what's your sexual orientation?
And, you know.
This is all happening?
Oh, please.
I know.
You won't hear from the fake news.
Come on.
You know it.
Yeah, got it.
Okay.
So, I mean, that's just off the bat right there.
Yeah.
So, if you want to go take a really 40,000.
I don't know if we want to go there.
You don't know if we want to go there. You don't know. I mean, if you want the side that leans toward God, vote Republican.
If you want the godless side in many ways, just look to the left.
Got it.
All right.
Hey, good luck in November.
It was great talking to you.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thanks for hanging out.
Great talking to you.
Great talk.
I love how you got it true to size, brother.
Cheers.
I didn't think so.
Thank you.
We'll take that.
Thanks again.
Appreciate it.
Be safe.
Have fun.
What the hoot and holler
what do you think so far
I think people are
people are sick dude
that's what we have to realize
is most people you see
are just kind of
nice chill people
that are just trying to hang dead
dude they just want to be talked to
that's it
they just want to be listened to
if you grab somebody
that has an
opposing
thought that you do
talk to them
I guarantee within 15 minutes
you can kind of at least
get them changed a little bit. Even that Trump guy.
He's like, Trump, Trump, Trump.
I thought he was like, you know what? Gas going
down. I have a customer service job.
I drive there. I go get groceries.
I drive there. My gas bill is a little high.
And I'm not going to disagree with him on that one. Yeah, it's high.
He got to some other points that I didn't really
understand. Yeah, I had a hard time following.
He kept staring at the Trump thing.
I did want to touch it the entire time.
But he had conviction. You know what? That's all we can
fucking... That's all it takes. If you tell me
an opinion or a thought that's not true
with conviction, I'll believe it and I'll tell other people
that they're wrong if they disagree. 100%.
That's all it takes. I have a bad brain. Hey, guys.
Hi, ladies. Hi.
Hey, friends. Hey, how are you? Hey, guys. Hi, ladies.
Hey, down here. Hey. Hey, wasabi.
Hey. How we doing? How's your day going? How are you? Hey guys. Hi ladies. Hey down here. Hey. Hey, what's up? Hey, how's your day going?
How are we? You doing okay? Hi, how are you?
How are you doing? Welcome. You guys want to sit down and hang out for a little bit? Hey, you want to come on the podcast?
How are you? Great. My name's Kyle. This is Matt. Nice to meet you. We're the men of...
What's that mean? Kyle and Matt. Common names.
Okay. Shauna, nice to meet you. Shauna, come on.
I think we're getting off on the wrong foot here.
Shauna, I don't want to start that way, Shauna. I think you have predisposed ideas about the family.
Yeah, I don't think you like us.
I think you think a little differently than we really are.
So anyway, so we're the Men at Work podcast.
And the reason why we're out here is we ask you what they do for a living.
And we also want to find out who people are voting for and how it affects their jobs.
Great.
So I'm a healthcare worker.
Love it.
And then who are you built for? Kamala.
Kamala. Okay. Just kidding. Kamala. Oh, okay. Okay. I like that. Said it wrong initially and
reversed it. I've been there many times. Yeah. So what leads you- She would give us intentional.
Okay. Oh, why? Because of the mispronunciation of her name. Is that why? Did I mispronounce it?
No, just in general. Oh, okay. And sorry. So I get the right pronunciation. What that widespread? Did I mispronounce it? No, just in general. Oh, okay. Sorry, so I get the right pronunciation. What is it?
Kamala. Kamala.
I've definitely been a Kamala guy. I've gone back and forth.
I've gone back and forth. Yeah, because I think I'm being short.
How do you go back and forth on how someone else pronounces your name?
Like water, water, crown, crayon.
But it's someone's name, not like an object.
It just can't be perfect. Yeah.
I try my hardest just to be
the best guy I can be.
Thanks, Kyle.
Yes, no problem.
People call me Kylie.
It happens.
So you're a healthcare worker.
People have called me lots of things.
Well, we're just calling you.
I'm happy for sitting down with us.
So you're a healthcare worker.
You're voting for Kamala.
Do those things mix together?
Do you inform your decision?
I said it right.
I was just checking.
You did it right?
Yeah, I think so.
If you don't mind talking into the mic. Sorry,'t really hear you no it's cool go ahead so uh so you're a health care worker you're voting for kamala are those
two things intertwined or do you look at your politics different from how it works with your
job are there things in your job that inform how you vote and why you're voting for Kamala? It's, I mean, both. So it would, meaning like the party and the
particular politics depend on what kind of thing I'm voting for. So of course.
Sure. Got it.
But I don't know how to answer that.
Do you want to reference the question differently?
Yeah, I guess we just wonder about, you hear about people who are voting maybe for Trump
because they're worried about how much money they're making. You hear about people that work
at a certain job series.
And I think the job series or what they do for a living would obviously inform who they're voting for.
Is there anything directly in your job that has led you to vote for Kamala or is it like a totally outside thing?
Oh, sure. I'm in health care. I mean, usually you vote Democrat because they, for the most part, put in more human rights and that kind of.
Has there ever been a Republican candidate that was actually good for health care?
Yes.
Oh, who's that?
I don't know off the top of my head, but yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is that like a thing that's maybe instead of being like a specific candidate,
is it somebody that's assigned to like certain parties?
Is there a party that's better for your line of work?
Democrat.
Democrat in general.
For the most part.
Gotcha.
Are you a doctor, a nurse, a
PhD, or are you in... Mental health.
Mental health. Okay. Okay. And have you
found that mental health,
a lot of those,
a lot of your industry sways
Democrat? They have to.
They have to? Why so?
Because of the policies.
Policies in terms of funding
and you're not getting a lot of funds? Not necessarily even money, of the policies. Policies in terms of like funding and, you know, getting a lot of funds?
Not necessarily even money, just the mindset.
We're two idiots that don't follow politics.
Yeah, we're not really.
Yeah, I can see.
Well, I mean.
You're coming very angry.
We're just hanging out.
We're hanging tense, Shona.
I don't feel angry.
But what kind of policies?
I don't feel angry.
Okay.
Oh, well, you disagree that we're idiots.
Usually people will at least like, you know, just be polite.
We'll just say, oh, you know, whatever. Why would I be polite? You don't have to. You can do whatever you want. I know. Of course. Yeah. Oh, well, you disagree that we're idiots. Usually people will at least, like, you know, just be polite and we'll just say, oh, you know, whatever.
Why would I be polite? You don't have to. You can do whatever you want.
I know. Of course. Yeah. So that's why I come off
angry to you. Why is that?
Because you think I'm supposed to be polite.
No, I don't. I just said you could... I'm in mental health. You said you wanted
to talk about work. Yes.
So that's your perception. So you're obviously
not a fan of the other side. Do you look
at their mental health like there's something wrong?
I don't believe in sides. That's part of the problem. Okay, so you're voting for Kamala. It's come down to Kamala Trump. Do you look at their mental health like there's something wrong? I don't believe in sides.
That's part of the problem.
Okay, so you're voting for Kamala.
It's come down to Kamala Trump.
Do you look at people who support Trump?
Right, right, right.
But do you look at people who are supporting Trump as there might be something from a mental health perspective that you... Yes, Trump is very ill.
Right.
Anybody that speaks the way he speaks about minorities and women, I mean, that's narcissism 80 of mental health and health care believes that
it's not like a we don't have a back and forth about it for the most part i mean certain areas
of the country sure but his supporters in particular like people that are just gung-ho
nuts kind of the poorly educated is that what you think it is it's just an education issue they don't
no i think it's a race issue for the most part.
I don't want to guess. It's multiple things.
Gotcha.
I can read micro-expressions.
Oh, what's that?
Exactly.
What do you think the micro-expressions that we're giving are?
Is it about us, you're saying, or about the people who support Trump?
Everybody has micro-expressions.
It's like asking me if somebody has an eye.
Yes, but you brought it up.
I thought maybe you noticed some specific micro expressions on our part or like from them.
So I have worked with sex offenders for about 20 years.
And I have a 90% rate of being able to figure out if someone could assault somebody prior to them doing so.
And I can tell you for sure that Trump is a rapist
and I didn't need the news media
or the fake news media
to tell me that.
Got it.
All right.
I don't have anything else.
Yeah, I think that's it.
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate it.
Nice meeting you.
Yeah, we have...
I'm sorry, I got a little clammy.
No, no problem.
He's got all the socials for you and everything.
Okay, great.
Great.
Thank you.
Thanks again.
And thank you for sitting down.
Yeah, thank you very much.
We appreciate it.
Man.
We're just going to...
We're going to bring the next guy on with the dog.
Yeah.
Bubu is also here.
Okay.
Come on up.
Whoa.
Bubu is also here.
Stay here and relax.
Hi, what's your name?
Bubu.
Bubu?
There's some headphones for you.
Me, I'm Peter.
Peter, nice to meet you, Peter.
Peter, Jim.
How's everything going?
Great.
Great.
A little bit front, right?
Yeah, so what's the dog's name?
Bubu.
Bubu?
Yeah, this is Bubu.
How old's Bubu?
What kind of dog?
Bubu is four years old.
It was just his birthday. We went to D.C. We were celebrating. Hell yeah. Yeah, he really liked D. How old is Bubu? What kind of dog? Bubu is four years old. You know, it was just his birthday.
We went to D.C., you know, we were celebrating.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, he really liked D.C., you know, like he was really cool.
So this guy is like five times surrender, kill shelter dog.
Oh!
I was practicing, you know, my approach, which is pet psychology.
You know, I got published for it and, you know, the book got sold out at Barnes & Noble a couple of times.
Oh, not a brand. So it's kind of a different thing how we communicate with animals,
based on social sciences and social...
Micro expressions, things like that.
Yeah, I mean, mostly my approach is on energy at the moment
and building up your relationship on the long run.
Not like treat, treat, treat, reinforcement, shocking, shocking colors, you know?
So the transactional stuff.
So my approach, it can be practiced
on only any sentient being, including human to human,
which is the core values of how you can earn respect
and what really is respect.
I speak four different languages and I looked it up
and I toured all 40 countries.
So I came out that, for example, respect is the very core value,
which is simply as clear attention.
Got it.
So if I'm on my phone, you're asking me something, you know.
True.
It's like, you know, so I got to give you clear attention.
The same as right now, I'm going to check.
All right, are you ready for this?
Let's give a look.
Look, what looks in my eyes.
Wow.
You do have really good eye contact.
You haven't really broken in with either of us.
That is the most essential thing.
So what happens with dogs?
If any Center City dog, if the owner calls them,
or they don't look, they don't give a shit,
or they look at this part of the body.
What does it mean?
There's treats there.
So what's happening here?
They don't give you respect.
They give you what you have so
I'm like watching your watch your your sunglasses yeah or like you know if
you're a woman I'm looking at your boobs you know I don't care about you analogies
can be crazy right so much psychology so just try to like explain the point so
this is the basic one then we go into developing trust yeah so what is trust in one of the languages I speak trust is
feeling secure so security so what do I say developing so it's trust I don't believe that
trust is broken there is no trust or there is trust there trust is always developing or degrading
between couples relationships any kind of relationship i hear you friends so how
much you feel secure you know i could say like i can trust you with my phone i don't trust you with
my wallet we're buddies right we live together and then no i trust you with this and then and
for example also like intimate couples you know it starts like you know you can hold my hand but
not other parts of my body you know and then little by little you can get naked you know so well okay analogy i'm getting an analogy so the same goes for dogs that i work
with shelter you know it's like no don't touch me you know and then you say like little by little
the more trust there is the more there is feeling secure sure and then the last but not last but not least is earning respect, developing trust, love and joy.
Got it.
Yeah.
Love is not affection.
You know?
What is the difference?
What would you say is the...
One million dollar question.
Yeah.
So affection.
So like the more affection you give, the more protection you need.
So affection is the transactional give and take love.
So there isn't any trust.
You see what I mean?
So in my book, I say the gold digging cycle.
You know, so the affection.
So affection, there is no protection.
So there's no feeling safe.
It's not like somebody that you're living with 10 years
and you trust them, you know,
like who they are and what they're doing. So that is you know love always i say love and joy yeah it's always developing the first
page of my book i said the purpose of life is to be happy and happiness turns to joy and uh and
what is joy then you know it's it turns into a compassion so and this is all with a dog this all
relates back to having a pup?
This is a pup gets like, what's that look like?
I would think like a pup's looking for a couple of treats,
a couple of quick affections, a couple of rubs on the tongue,
which very honestly, so am I.
So, the more you do that,
the more you're conditioning the dog that
you don't have to quite care about me.
Yeah.
You're saying like, whoever gives you treats,
go say hello to them.
And there is no loyalty there.
So the loyalty is like kind of getting less.
These guys that are unconditional love and loyalty,
I can go to this chick right now and get the treat
and get the leash from her and the dog will not look.
Do that to the boo-boo, you know?
Boo-boo might bite you.
You'll never see him do that to boo-boo.
No, no, I'm just saying, you know, like,
I'm just saying get the treat and, you know,
I'm telling you, boo-boo will leave and come back.
He will leave and come back to you.
So you think that's something that relates back to relationships with the gold digger?
Have you been with a gold digger before?
A lady?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I was touring over 40 countries, you know, as a musician.
And I was ambassador for peace, you know, like in the UN.
So that's how I came here.
And post-COVID, I focused on pet psychology, my degree, you know.
So before that, I was always touring, delivering speeches, you know, different stuff, non-political,
I don't believe in politics.
And what was that like being a peace ambassador in the UN?
What's that look like?
So it's a non-governmental office, you know,
social and economic office in the UN.
So it's kind of inter-religious
and inter-cultural conferences, you know?
So it's kind of bringing people together,
regardless what culture, what background,
what religion they come, you know, these days we see those things are kind of bringing people together regardless what culture, what background, what religion they come from.
These days we see those things are kind of dividing people.
So my role is kind of uniting them with the languages that I speak and about the religions that I've studied.
And how we can get them together.
And actually I have a speech on 21st in Center City for the International Day of Peace.
They invited me as peace ambassador.
Wow.
So the title is,
how can you have peace in the times of turmoil?
So there is the times of turmoil we're living, right?
So what's that, weed?
Is the answer weed?
You keep hearing about a little marijuana weed.
Take a puff.
Yeah.
What is the puff and the weed? It's the treaty for the dog.
Oh.
It might give you
you know like so when people smoke weed they're just taking a treaty we're boo-boo every time
we take a hit of weed we are boo-boo what is this in in psychology dopamine boost yeah what is
dopamine pleasure it's not love it's pleasure so the more dopamine goes the serotonin goes down
what does it mean you're gonna get more depressed yeah so right now you're so happy you're gonna get more depressed. Yeah. So right now, you're so happy. You're like, you know, having like top orgasm.
Oh, whoa!
But then, you're gonna go, like after five minutes,
you know, ten minutes, hour, two hours.
Then you're gonna like call her Uber to get her home, kind of thing.
Yeah, dude, every time I fucking orgasm,
then it's like you just lose all your dopamine.
Exactly.
No, you lose the serotonin.
Sorry, sorry.
Dopamine boosts, you know.
I mean, I'm not against, I'm not against dopamine, you know.
What do you do again?
So what's that? What do you do again for a living? He's an author and a touring. He's an author and a touring musician Yeah, and also pet psychology. So we were just about yeah
But I call it PC you and we kind of like jump off from because you know in my website
There is the three different, you know characters that you know the last 15 years of my life
Yeah, you seem like a guy who's had an eccentric past
Yes
like you're experienced and dopamine and kind of the pleasures of life and understanding the difference between of my life. You seem like a guy who's had an eccentric past. Yes. Like your experience
and dopamine
and kind of the pleasures of life
and understanding
the difference between pleasure
and...
Do you have any wild stories
from back in the day
before you had an understanding
like this?
So in my book,
you know,
there is the story
of how I got cancer
and died twice
and I woke up,
you know,
so...
But...
And also,
I'm a three-generation survivor,
so I'm Armenian and Lebanese.
Sure.
So my grandpa
survived the Armenian
genocide and my dad was born in Old City Jerusalem before the State of Israel you know 46, 48 was.
So then I was born in Beirut in the 80s there was civil war bombs everywhere so I grew up like that
and then I got cancer and died. I didn't die from the war. So what does that mean you actually
flatlined when you had cancer? No so it was twice and it's in my book
So the first time it was during the biopsy and it has a story about it, you know
So how it happened in the biopsy that you know of yourself. No, no, it was kind of like
the guy has to go in the like, you know just to get like into
Like the lymph node
So he goes like in he got like in a
nervous breakdown the the guy that was doing the surgery so he went into my lung i passed out they
put me in the er pump pump pump i woke up and then whenever i woke up i was like heavily breathing
so that was the first time and second time is after the third chemo so the third chemo was
heavy i got anemia again like move move
you know go up and down and then you know it was very hard path six months of like you know nearly
did that near that experiences sure eventually like i survived and i got cured 100 percent
and the six months next to it i was like i was asking like why i didn't die what is my purpose
of life and what should i do i come from a poor family. What should I do?
I cannot get out of the shithole Lebanon.
I don't have any visas, any whatever.
And then there's a story.
The first, second chapter of my book, I talk about it.
So what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Where can people buy the book before we get you off here?
What's the book called?
The book Magic Starts With You.
All right.
Very nice.
Peter Jem.
My name is Peter Jem.
Peter Jem?
J-A-M, yeah.
Thanks so much.
We appreciate it.
Great perspective on life.
Thank you very much.
Welcome.
Cool.
How are you guys doing?
I think we're doing good, man.
My girl actually paid attention and was like, you guys should do this.
And a part of me and Ryan were like, fuck we are.
And then we were like, let's do it.
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty cool. A lot of people aren't like you two. Ryan were like, fuck, we are. Yeah. And we were like, let's do it. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty cool.
A lot of people, a lot of people aren't like you two.
You were like, fuck this.
Yeah.
There's some people that were not like us.
I was kind of like that right before I walked in.
But we appreciate it.
But I'll, I mean, you guys still might be that way if I lay down the law.
Yeah.
Men at Work podcast.
We ask people what they do for a living.
This episode, we want to see what people are, who they're voting for and how it affects
their job.
Still comfortable?
I'm down with that.
Okay, sweet.
So what do you do for a living?
So I work for a fraud detection company.
Pretty sick.
I'm a bartender.
Okay.
All right.
But more interestingly, I just got back from a cross-country cycling trip that I did from Colorado to Seattle.
Wow.
Holy shit.
That's might be cool to talk about.
That's a lot more interesting.
Yeah.
Bartending. Yeah. Bartending is pretty sweet. Bartending is sick. I was bartending for interesting. Yeah. And then bartending.
Yeah, bartending is pretty sweet.
Bartending is sick. I was bartending for a little bit.
Who are you rooting for?
You know, it's so funny.
I wasn't nervous until you said that the questions were like that
and how it pertains to work. And I was like, oh, man.
We still horse around. We're still going to horse around.
Yeah, we still fuck around. Don't you worry.
All right. So here, I'll start with this.
Yes. So Reg E, which is is gonna eventually cause banks to have to repay
people that get caught up in zell pdp scams right because if you think about it romance scams or
whatever you're authorizing that payment sextortion is a big thing right now exactly oh wow but like
you were actually saying i'm gonna send it so for the longest time the banks were like
how are we gonna prove that that wasn't fraud and get a charge back? So now banks are going to be required to have to be paid back the money.
So what that's going to do is a lot of times banks and credit unions that are,
you know, most people bank with chimes of the world so far. So banks are going to have to
invest in more money for this, which is then it's going to take jobs, right? Because they don't
really have fucking money to pay for employees. Now, how are they going to have to invest in more money for this, which is then it's going to take jobs, right? Because they don't really have fucking money to pay for employees.
Now, how are they going to pay for technology?
So how that pertains to who I'm going to vote for, and I don't mind saying it, but I plan on voting for Donald Trump.
Got it.
Okay.
And the reason is, is because I think he'll kind of launch more initiations for protection of people.
Yeah. This is a very unjudgmental. Yeah is very unjudgmental. We have no bias.
We literally have no bias. We just want to know.
And actually, you're a perfect example because
it's like, I'm doing this because of XYZ. You laid it
out perfectly. Thank you. Now, on the other
hand, who are you voting for, my big dog?
Yeah, who are you doing it? So I would never, you know,
I, um,
I was... Say it!
Say it! Seriously, we don't give a fuck.
Look, I'm feeling Jill.
I'm really feeling Jill.
Jill Stein.
Jill Stein.
Yeah, I love Jill.
I love her message.
Would you be surprised if you were the second person that we've had on that has also voted
for Jill Stein?
Because if you listen to her speak, she makes a lot of really great points.
Yeah, I feel like her.
I think we got all two of her supporters at the same episode.
Dude, that's sick, dude.
So, I mean, that being said, I'm going to probably vote for Kamala.
Okay, okay.
Just because...
Boo.
I don't know.
I'm on or off about it.
Are you boys?
Yeah, we are.
Nice.
Yeah, you don't see a lot of, like,
red and blue friends these days.
I don't even know if red and blue
is the right way to describe it.
But that's...
It's not even...
Yeah, right, but that's, like,
the thing where it's, like,
I think I have, like,
I definitely have red and blue friends, and you just... as long as you, I think a lot of times, like
if you just argue back and forth and shout at each other, it accomplishes nothing.
We don't even, we just laugh at everything.
Yeah.
We both just see the ridiculousness in it all.
So like every time one of them does something, we're just like, oh my goodness.
Just being dudes.
Yeah.
That's extremely hard.
Just being dudes.
It's not worth getting any deeper than that.
Yeah.
I don't push anything on him.
It isn't me. But I mean, what we like is we're two fucking funny guys
So everything will be the judge of that couple humble dudes course
Yeah, and I think a lot of stuff that you know Trump says I say hey Ryan check out what this guy said and he laughs
Yeah, you know we like that part, but then when it comes to the other things that we don't push each other
We just say hey nobody's fucking right probably anyways.
That's what I think at the end of the day.
You can't judge your friends or else they're pushing people away.
There's too much to nitpick at.
I feel like I've learned that over the course of time,
going through different relationships with people,
where it's just like you're best to just accept people for who they are
and to go on with your day.
I can't go through a four-year period where my life has like
drastically changed from person to person no not at all and not even remotely that's kind of
maybe down the line it'll it will but at this moment right now as i'm 30 years old 31 years old
you should know yeah i can't really you say you know dan that sucks well i will say it's
i mean i know uh big trump dog was coming out about helping out with tips. Does that help you as a bartender, though?
Oh, yeah.
You know, that was like the one thing he's ever said.
Tips, dude.
Kamala stole that.
I was like, hold up.
I like the way this sounds.
Yeah.
So I feel like that's something that she would adopt.
That sounds kind of cool.
I don't know.
They like their money, though.
Yeah.
True.
Well, so what is it?
They're supposed to be imparting attacks on tips?
I don't know.
There isn't one?
I didn't look anything into it.
Details on that? Okay, for sure. I'm a headline reader. I like that. I'm't look anything into it. Details on that?
I'm a headline reader.
I like that.
I think it's so they don't audit the fucking
poor people that work in restaurants.
Yeah, that'll suck, dude.
Tax season every single year.
We would owe thousands of dollars
back. It sucked.
It's pretty good now with Square
because they take it all out
so you don't even have to worry about it.
And people don't really carry cash anymore, so it kind of sucks.
You can't really write off.
Everything's going through the card.
You probably make like $50 a night in cash.
And then the government wants $55 back.
Whoa, you guys might be red and blue, too.
This is getting real red.
Let's fucking go.
We're redefining it. Back to your job. You're doing fraud and stuff. It is getting real. So back to your job, you're doing you're doing fraud and
stuff. It's very interesting job. And so how would Trump being elected? How is that good for you?
Well, I'll tell you right now, back in 2019, I got my first job with Comcast. Now I graduated in 2011
and could not get a job for the longest time.
I had to work restaurant gigs.
I was applying, applying, applying.
And from my understanding, once he got in the office and he did give the larger tax breaks to some of these corporations, how I know a lot of people feel about it.
But in my case, Comcast had a huge hiring.
And that's how I got my foot in the door.
Got it.
So, yeah, exactly that.
There's a point to being, I understand trickle down economics might not be to my clarity,
but from my understanding, it opens up more opportunities for jobs for these people to
hire people.
Yeah.
And you kept that always in the back pocket because you believe that he helped you get
a job.
Okay.
That's fair.
A hundred percent. Yeah. And you kept that always in the back pocket because you believe that he helped you get a job. Okay, that's fair. 100%. Will him getting elected help you right now with your current job in terms of fraud banking?
I think so.
I think if he comes into office and he is able to give the middle class a break on taxes, I think people, first of all, will be able to spend more.
Right now, fintechs, companies, they're on such a freeze. That's why people can't get a job and they can't
buy technology or they can't invest in tools to make their company bigger because they're not
making the same amount of money. So, yeah, I think it'll free up resources for people to go back to
investing into, for my instance, banks and credit unions, they don't have the money
to invest in technology. Now, mind you, if they cut the interest rates and people start wanting to
lend more and people start coming
to these banks and getting more mortgages,
that'll count the...
I could go on and on.
It'll allow for more deposit accounts.
People have more money to spend and
there'll be more money going around just for everyone
to consume more things, positive or
negative. By cocaine.
So, Kamala, if she was to be elected.
Fuck her.
She is hot.
Yes, I would too.
It's two dueling wizards.
It's two dueling wizards.
Yeah, you actually look like, for real,
two young Dumbledores.
This is pretty sweet.
You know what we get all the time?
The lady up front of our building was like,
yeah, you two twins.
And now we were just like, yeah.
You know what? I don't want to break your heart. Yeah, we're twins. And now we were just like, yeah. You know what?
I don't want to break your heart.
Yeah, we're twins.
Are you guys the cavemen
from the Geico commercial?
Stuff like that.
Yeah.
Oh my God, it'd be awesome.
You guys are like a grunge band
or something.
Yeah, you guys rolled it.
Yeah.
Pearl and Ivana.
Yeah, I like to think
it's more like
70s Pink Floyd era.
Yeah.
I like that.
Rittenhouse park bench.
Yeah.
I like that.
You got any other questions?
No, I kind of like having two people that can be friends without having to kill each other with different beliefs.
We kind of were looking for that the whole day.
Chillest dude in the world.
For real, chillest dudes.
Yeah, dude.
Thanks for being chill.
Thanks so much for having us on, man.
I'm glad we did this.
He's got all the socials for you if you didn't know.
Great meeting you.
Good luck with everything.
What up, what up?
What up, what up?
My name's Kyle.
This is Matt.
We're the Men at Work podcast.
Okay.
We ask people what they do for a living, and we ask people who they're voting for and who
they're voting for, why, and how does it affect their job.
Sure.
So what do you do for a living?
Well, first of all, my name's Chino.
Oh, Chino.
I'm a Phobos.
Sorry.
I was born in West Philly.
I'm a Philadelphia native.
Love it.
Wasn't raised.
I'm from the Island section.
Got it.
I'm self-employed.
Got it.
So I'm a freelance copywriter and ghostwriter for B2B SaaS companies.
Cool.
I also have my own nonprofit, smallbizphilia.com.
We provide free and low-cost technical assistance.
Cool.
And then who are you voting for?
Nobody.
Oh, wow.
Why not?
Because the Republicans are for the rich.
The Democrats are for the poor.
Who's for the middle class?
Rhetorical question.
Nobody.
Okay. So none of them are helping the rich. The Democrats are for the poor. Who's for the middle class? Retroical question. Nobody. Okay.
So none of them are helping small business.
The Republicans are giving tax breaks to the rich.
Democrats are trying to keep us poor.
Nobody's helping small business.
So screw both of them.
So there's no policy out there right now that you're just like, all right, I can kind of see them helping out the middle class in any way.
Nothing?
No, because Trump is trying to help the rich.
Harris is trying to help the poor.
Who's helping the middle class? Nobody. Was RFK the guy that you looked to help the rich. Harris is trying to help the poor. Who's helping the middle class?
Nobody. Was RFK the guy that you looked to during that? I was.
I was this close to registering
to vote. I was in New York City.
In midtown,
lower Manhattan, rather.
I didn't see him, but his team was out there.
I was going to register. I was going to vote for that guy.
He dropped out, so screw him. You got two months to get over to
Michigan. He's still in that ballot. True.
Let him hear it.
So, yeah, we'll see. We'll see how that goes.
Do you have an RFK impression
that you could give us right now? Oh, no, not at all.
No, I'm not that talented. Sure.
Do you have an RFK impression you can give us? I've tried
a couple out.
I don't want to embarrass myself. No, please, let it rip.
No, no, I'm good. Alright, fair enough.
So, it's got to kind of be
a defeating feeling, this election. Absolutely. Or every election. Absolutely. Absolutely, because, no, I'm good. All right, fair enough, fair enough. So this is going to kind of be a defeating feeling, this election.
Absolutely.
Or every election.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Because everyone should be self-employed with their own small business.
Jobs, being a W-2 employee should be illegal.
Being a W-2 employee is modern-day slavery.
Why so?
Why so?
Because you're making someone else rich.
Corporate America is a pyramid.
Wake up, people.
When you have a W-2 job as an employee, W-2 employee, you're making someone else rich. Corporate America is a pyramid. Wake up, people. When you have a W-2 job as an employee, W-2 employee,
you're making someone else rich.
That owner, that CEO
of Facebook or
Google, whatever, they should be working.
You're making someone else rich. Jobs should be
illegal. Smallbizphilly.com.
We're a non-profit.
We help local businesses.
I thought you were going to drop the mic there.
Peace out.
Any more questions? No, not really. I'm sorry. I thought you were going to drop the mic there. All right. Peace out. Any more questions?
No, not really.
I mean, hey, I fucking you up right now.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to be offensive.
No one should have a job.
Everyone should be self-employed.
You're passionate.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
But I'm also harmless.
Yeah, I can tell.
You're a great person.
Yeah, thank you.
Unless you put your hands on me.
There you go.
That was not in the cards.
Don't start nothing.
Don't say nothing.
I mean, what's that saying?
Don't start nothing.
It won't be nothing.
I like that.
All right. All right like that. All right.
All right, brother.
All right, West Philly.
Thank you so much.
Take care.
I'm also going to claim West Philly in this one.
Point of race.
Thanks, brother.
Do you want to come on for five minutes?
You got to throw that on first.
I'll move that out of the way for you.
All right.
You got a Baja Blast.
You're a Baja Blast.
Yeah, did you get a Baja Blast?
I did not.
Oh, damn.
You got to go Baja Blast.
You got to go Baja.
Oh, it's filled with Blake Hall?
That's fucking sick.
I love that, dude. I love that, dude.
I love that, dude.
I love that.
What do you do for a living?
Oh, well, I work at Pennsylvania Convention Center.
Nice.
Park Hyatt at the Bellevue.
Wait, they fucking had you going to work today?
Oh, my God.
It was beautiful.
We have all the pressers.
We have NBC, ABC, CNN, Face the Nation.
Yeah, you have all the big dudes.
Kind of like main prime TV channels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, 3, 6, 10.
So are you in a union over there?
Yes, sir, we are, and I love my union.
So I'm guessing you're voting for Kamala.
I absolutely am voting for Kamala.
Yeah.
What is it about the unions that always back the Democrat Party?
Well, because we like to have somebody that backs labor, appreciates labor.
Got it.
Doesn't try to compromise the 40-hour work week.
People deserve to have an amount of money when they retire.
They deserve to live a comfortable life.
And, you know, I mean mean everyone needs medical benefits sure you join a union you get medical benefits you get a pension you get a vacation fund and you
save and save and save so when you're in a union it's more of a career as opposed to a job got it
what do you think about the new sixers arena potential i think it's going to go right into
camden right where they tore down the prison? I think it's going to go right into Camden, right where they
tore down the prison. Really? You think it's going to go
across New Jersey? That was a brand new prison. Why'd they tear a brand new
prison down? I did not know that.
I did not know that at all. Oh, jeez.
So you don't think...
North Camden, right on the north side.
You'll see it's a wide open
park that nobody uses. Because for anyone
that doesn't know that's watching this, the new Sixers Arena
would actually go right next door to you guys.
Yeah, they're already practicing there.
Some of the big guns, you know, like Norcross opened up.
American Water Company, he has a hotel there.
He has that giant insurance company.
He's part of all the charter schools.
He's buying everything.
So do you want it to go to Camden,
or would you be okay with it going into the mall? I absolutely don't want it in Chinatown. It's already everything up. So do you want it to go to Camden or would you be okay
with it going into the mall? I absolutely don't want it in Chinatown. It's already too crowded.
Got it. Chinatown's a beautiful place and Chinatown is pristine just as it is. Yeah.
Not even if it's a free $1.5 billion investment. It's kind of hard for the city to say no to $1.5
billion. But we don't know that to be true. Corporations always make projections
that they never touch.
Sorry, so what I'm really saying is the $1.3
billion investment is the
price of the arena that they are
pulling out of their
pockets. So it's not like they're using
taxpayers' money, which is really sick.
It's kind of sick.
Well, it's just more corporate greed, man.
That money's not coming back
into the community like what you think that the the people that own all the parking lots
i mean i work kosher too i know some of the people that own the parking lots yeah 100 i'm not i'm not
saying that there's not hands being shaken everything downtown philadelphia better fair I'm not going to make downtown Philadelphia better. Fair. Fair point. What do you think? I would like it only because since I've been a little kid, that mall has sucked.
That mall, even when it was the, what was it?
Not the Gramercy, but it was the, I forget what it was called before.
There's never been anything good.
The Gallery.
The Gallery.
There you go.
There's never been anything ever good there.
And then they put that mall in there.
The mall goes belly up.
The mall's like, I think it's at 20% occupied.
All the malls are going belly up.
Not just the one in Philadelphia.
100%.
They're going belly up in the middle of Indiana, in the bread basket, in the rust belt.
So what I just think about is...
People aren't going to malls.
So what I think about it is if you're going to fight it, that mall's not going to be there
whether the Sixers Stadium goes in or not.
So then who goes in? Do you want the Sixers who
might lend their hand to Chinatown and be like,
More bars, more restaurants,
more nightlife, more live music,
more of like a Tennessee vibe.
I think it's got to be. Even though downtown
Philadelphia. We got the City Winery.
Yeah, 100%. But I don't think
Market Street is like that though.
I don't think Market Street is more like a Fidei. It can be. I don't think so because I don't think Market Street is like that, though. I don't think Market Street is more like a FIDI.
It can be.
I don't think so, because I don't think you're going to get people on the weekends and stuff to come down there. They'd rather go deeper into the city.
If they got parking.
True.
No, I mean, fair.
People go to New York.
But they're not just going to build a bunch of bars and restaurants on top of the mall. It's going to be something big, something sustainable, something that works for the city. And the reason why I always kind of like look at the Chinatown
argument and I understand the impact study and I think the impact study is right. It's going to
affect Chinatown businesses and it might not affect them in the best of ways. But if they
deny the arena, something's going in there and something that might not be working with Chinatown.
Maybe it's a developer from New York and they're building building high-rises. New York's buying everything.
That's the thing.
There are vacant landlords destroying whole communities.
So that's why I don't think a lot of people
are looking towards the future.
Now, right now, they don't want the arena to go in and everything.
But I think there's someone who's from a New York developer
that's going to come in, give the middle finger to Chinatown,
rent prices are going to go up.
Governor Murphy's giving them a nice chunk of change down there, and they're already
there.
100%.
No, I mean, it's definitely...
And Newark Cross boys got a lot of power, too.
There's five of them.
Dude, if you gave me a billion dollars, how do you say no to a billion dollars?
I don't think that first the governor, Josh Shapiro, who is a Sixers fan,
I don't think the mayor is going to let them leave.
I'm just going to say he's the nicest, nicest man.
Greatest guy in the world.
I've waited on him many times.
He's going to be the future president.
He's running for office.
For future running president.
It broke my heart.
It broke my heart when she picked that Tim Waltz.
I know, right?
I almost cried.
He would have won Pennsylvania in a landslide.
I'm going to say this.
Tim Waltz did a great job, and he was the right pick in the end.
Yeah.
Because Josh Shapiro doesn't have the military background.
Well, you'd argue that Tim Walz is in the military background.
You didn't know that?
Huh?
You didn't know that he was in the military?
Well, I mean, he was in the military, but he was in the military.
National Guard is really fucking hard, man.
No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying about it, he was in the military, but he was in the military. National Guard is really fucking hard, man. No, no, I'm not saying that.
He was in Afghanistan.
I'm not saying about it, but there's the Afghanistan,
and then he leaves before they deploy and stuff.
Isn't there other rumors out there?
There are rumors, sir, but they are not facts.
Okay.
And what happened was Tim Waltz had already put in for retirement.
He already did 24 years.
Okay.
And then that happened. All right. All right. I was did 24 years. Okay. And then that happens.
Alright. Alright. I was reading the headlines.
Have you ever done anything for 24
years consecutively? How old are you?
31.
Okay, see I'm 60.
So what I'm telling you is...
But I've lived for 31 years. You said I didn't do anything for 24 years straight.
I did. I'm 31, baby.
But you haven't done anything.
Hey, 24 years? I've lived in this millennium I'm 31, baby. But you haven't done anything. Hey, 24 years? I've lived
in this millennium for 24 years, baby.
Do you know how hard that is to be a public school
teacher for two years?
He's a man that has a full
balance. I like the dude.
As a person? Love the dude. Football coach?
Midwestern guy?
An untornished military
background.
I'll have to do more research.
You can try to swift boat them all you want.
And I know swift boater guys working for
Trump now.
You got us all pegged. I don't even know who I'm
voting for. That's why I came out here.
Well, I'm not pegging you as anybody.
Only as a fellow
Philadelphian.
Because we up in the jaunt.
Oh!
That's a white claw speaking.
That's a white claw speaking that's the white claw
hey you go enjoy yourself
good night it was great talking to you
good luck with everything hey well that's
the podcast I hope you liked it honestly
I think we did a good
enough job where we kind of partisan bipartisan
I don't know what the right one is but
I think we did a good enough job and got enough
different
ideologies got enough different people on here with differing but I think we did a good enough job and got enough different ideologies, got enough
different people on here with differing opinions.
I think that's what we came to do.
I think we hit both sides.
I think we found friends that are on opposite sides.
We found people that aren't voting.
We found people that-
Jill Stein.
Jill Stein.
Jill Stein up in this bitch.
Jay Stein.
Look her up.
Let's find out.
That's our new, that's our research project.
Is Jill Stein real?
Hey, listen, we appreciate everybody for tuning in with us and for staying until now.
And we hope it's a good debate, I guess, right?
Yeah, it should be a good debate. Yeah, sure.
Let's just hope it's a good debate.
I'm going to go watch it.
All right.
We'll talk to you later.
Peace.