Men At Work Podcast - How Do Young People Afford Philadelphia?
Episode Date: October 10, 2024How do young professionals afford the city of Philadelphia? Matt Peoples and Kyle Pagan are in Philadelphia asking people exactly that. But before we get into the interviews Matt is back from being a ...Disney adult where he got a sweet deal that came with a humiliating catch. We talk to two struggling actors who tell us how they made a 200 sq ft apartment work. Kyle had a college experience filled with philanthropic efforts that supported a war lord. We talked to a CPA who gives us tips on budgeting and finish with one of the most interesting interviews we've ever had - Nora. She's worth the price of admission alone. 00:00 - Matt the Disney Adult/Humiliation Ritual 21:40 - Struggling Artists Making Ends Meet 31:22 - Kyle's War Lord Philanthropy 38:26 - A CPA Budgets Us 47:47 - Nora....That's All You Have to Say #philadelphia #youngprofessionals #podcast Check out our sponsor Thrive Flower! Thrive sells real cannabis products outside of the medical system. They have 9 strains of flower, 6 strains of pre rolled joints, 4 strains of vapes, gummies, and lemonades. They are the first and only company offering same day cannabis delivery within Philly. Order your cannabis at https://thriveflower.com/ and it will be delivered in about an hour. Use code menatwork15 for 15% off orders. Simply choose “same day delivery” during checkout. This applies for Philly residents ONLY. About Us: The Men At Work Podcast asks one question: What do you do for work? After that the conversation flows from there. We’ve met substitute teachers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and more. And we’ll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a baseball game, a bar crawl, casino, and more. We like to find out what people do for a living. If you want us to come to your event email us at: menatpodcast@gmail.com APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/men-at-work-podcast/id1373108039 SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4XcFWt0I6gFvMotqDp5bsZ?si=2273debc08e5485d If you want more bonus content from every episode check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ Follow Kyle: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb Follow Vito: https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en
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Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work.
I'm Kyle Pegg, and as always, joined by Matt Peebles.
We are in the beautiful neighborhood of Fishtown.
But Matt, why are we here?
Dude, we're in Fishtown, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
And we're here because, look, as a New Jersey guy,
I am trying to figure out how people yours and my age afford to live in any city.
That was kind of like the big question we came into this.
Like you kind of see people walking around and wandering.
Everybody looks cool.
Everybody looks suave.
But it's like, what do you do that you can afford to live in a new up and coming kind of neighborhood?
I think people are more looking at ways they don't know how they're going to pay their bills.
Is that what it is?
Because that's why we see so many people walking around Fishtowns because I can't go afford a drink at a bar.
I can't go afford a restaurant.
I got to go down to this Phillies event down the street that's free and gives me free merch and everything.
That is the big point.
You guys are basically living in an amusement park where everything is double the cost.
And everybody, that's the thing.
I think it's because the new way to dress cool is to kind of dress like shit.
So you see somebody dress like shit and then they walk into like a beautiful,
like exposed brick apartment
that's like three bedrooms
and it's just them and their dog.
And it's like, how are you paying for this?
What is happening?
What am I missing?
This is the perfect place to dress like shit.
Yeah.
It's got vintage stores galore.
Sure.
And the rent is too damn high.
It really is.
It seems insane.
I don't know how you guys do it.
But you quit.
You moved out of the suburbs.
I lived in Northeast Philly. I lived in a real town for a little
while, dude. I lived in northeast Philly and the
moment I moved in, a global pandemic
started and ruined the planet.
That's why I can't live in Philadelphia. It's not
for me. It's for the good of the entire earth.
You quit. You moved out of the suburbs and that's
how you afforded Disney. Yeah. Oh,
didn't he? You basically live in
Disney. I don't think you realize because Kyle lives hereabouts and you live in Disney. Yeah. Oh, didn't he? You basically live in Disney. I don't think you realize
because Kyle lives
hereabouts
and you live in Disney World, dude.
Unfortunately, you live in Disney.
Besides the rats
that we sometimes see in Fishtown,
I do not live in Disney.
Don't talk about Mickey Mouse like that.
You just got back from Disney.
I'm back from Disney, dude.
I'm a totally different guy.
I was on Island Time,
but now I'm back with the boys.
We got Vito behind the camera
just texting immediately.
Doesn't even give a crap about us.
Not even focused, probably.
Make it a story.
Nice, my guy.
How was it?
Why did you go?
All right, I have a lot.
I don't want to call you a Disney adult.
I don't think it's fair yet.
Yeah.
I'll make my determination at the end.
Sure.
Okay.
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What did he say?
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I think it's Naruto.
It's Naruto.
Is it Naruto?
Yeah.
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My friend Pat smoked an entire pre-roll and watched four seasons of Naruto.
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smacked out of his mind on Japanese.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here's why I went.
I like going to Disney World a ton and it makes me unbelievably happy. There's this bad moniker that's coming around now about like, oh, you go to Disney once, you're a Disney
adult. You go to Disney twice in your adulthood, you're a Disney adult. Disney adults are the
people that you see. First of all, they have huge teeth. And when they smile, they show top gum.
That's a big point of being a Disney adult. When they smile, they go, that's a Disney adult. First of all,
I don't have that. I have a low smile, only a little bit of teeth. Secondarily, Disney adults,
they're like weird. Like they dress up. Really what it is, it goes back to like everything in
adulthood is like somehow it's tied back to their sexuality. I think Disney adults have a weird
tie-in where when the lights go out, they get back to their resort, some weird stuff happens, and some people are
dressed in crazy costumes.
And you're claiming not to be these people? I'm not that at all.
Why not? You went to Disney
as a 28-year-old man. That's true.
I almost got suckered into wearing a matching
t-shirt with my girlfriend, and I was like, we are
towing a fine line if we do that.
That's where you start to approach Disney adult.
Never did it. I wore
literally I wore plain black t-shirts the entire time to make sure people didn't think I was a Disney adult.
And it ruled.
Dude, Disney's so fun.
If you've been.
In the hot summer sun of.
You went, you wore black shirts in the hot summer sun of Florida.
Yes.
So people didn't disguise you as a Disney adult.
Not even a little bit.
Do you sound how insane that sounds coming out of your mind?
I totally.
How much that I've gotten to you
and Vito gotten to you
making fun of you
for going to Disney World
as a Disney adult
that you actually packed
solid clothing
so that people would be like,
oh, that guy's just here
to drink around the world.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
Look, I'll put it to you this way.
Did you ride any rides?
What's that?
Did you ride any rides?
Tons of rides, dude.
And I'll tell you what,
I put my hands up
on every single one. And I don't care. And I don't care dude and i'll tell you what i put my hands up on every single one and i don't care and i don't care at all dude i wanted
to put my hands up on every big drop they're not very big drops they're made for kids but i did go
on the rides and i put my hands up and it rules dude everybody talks crud about disney and makes
fun of disney people when you go there it's like you look at somebody who does heroin and you're
like oh my god i could never and then the minute you do heroin you're like, oh my God, I could never. And then the minute you do heroin, you're like, okay, I get it.
It's just an odd place to go when you spend so much money to get there and you could probably go to a really, really cool place.
But you decided to go to an all-inclusive resort with adults who dress up in costume.
Some. Some do.
Let me ask you this.
When's the last time you've been to Disney?
14.
So 17 years ago.
There you go. I rest my case i hated it i hated it because it was so
fucking annoying for a 14 year old i was right in the cusp where it was like you weren't 18 to 21
to do anything fun drink around the world and you were too old for like magic kingdom and shit
that's right so you need to go as an adult i'm telling you it'll change your tune to a way you
would never expect hitting hollywood studios 11 a.m., grabbing a beer and getting on the rockin' roller coaster.
Hello, folks.
You needed beers to go on the roller coaster.
That's insane.
That's a good point.
All right.
I hadn't really framed it that way.
You need five beers from Harry Potter World to go on the teacups.
I need four.
That's all.
I don't need five.
Dude, it's so sick.
Now, the only way that we went there is because it is-
I was going to say, you're dodging this question.
Yeah.
I'm wondering why you went there.
Like, again, you could have gone across the country and stayed at an awesome hotel and
maybe saw some sights and visited some cool places and everything.
You probably could have went overseas and done it for the same amount of money that
you spend at Disney.
So, like you said, the bang for the buck.
That's what we went for.
We went for bang for our buck.
Because you look at it, the flights are expensive.
All the parks are expensive.
So, my girlfriend found- Hurricane season, hurricane season. We went literally during
hurricane Helene, which we're so sorry. You literally flew over the devastation while
going to the happiest place on earth. I felt so bad because the entire time I'm like,
are we going to catch our flight to Disney world? And people are like losing their homes. I'm like,
I got to really reframe this position that I've been, but, uh, we went there. Only reason my
girlfriend, now she scares the shit out of me. She finds deals
and I never believe they're real.
Call it misogyny,
call it being worried, whatever.
She finds a deal,
four nights in Orlando,
150 beans, sign us up.
Okay, 100%.
Were you flying frontier?
Were you flying on the plane wing?
No, we flew regular.
We flew first class back,
which is pretty sweet.
The pod's doing well.
Okay, there's nothing to the pod.
You flew first class? i guess so i've
never flew i've flown private private but i've never flown first class yeah you might be saying
oh what did your girlfriend have a massive panic attack and cry on the flight and you didn't even
get to enjoy it yeah maybe dude maybe so and i love my girl to death that oddly makes me happy
yeah we were sitting there and the lady came by for drink order she's like i need a vodka soda
i'm gonna freak out what the fuck is first class like how how cool is it uh it's just not
having to sit on top of a fat guy okay that really should just be the advertisement it's just like
instead of three seats it's two and everything's exactly the same hotel no hotels nothing too cool
as american we're really you know we're keeping it keeping it a bean but so the first class the
way we afforded it 150 for150, four nights, girlfriend signs us
up.
They call us two days later and they're like, thank you for signing up.
We're excited to have you.
The deal comes with a two-hour timeshare meeting.
So they brought us there to sell us a timeshare.
So we got to stay there for four nights.
Pretty sweet.
Oh, fuck.
Two-hour meeting for a timeshare.
Okay.
So the entire time, the two big rules they have is you have to seem somewhat interested.
That's stupid.
I agree.
And you cannot be blacked out.
I think a lot of people go to these meetings totally hammered, and they're not looking out for you.
What are they going to do?
Make you pay the difference if you go blacked out?
Yep.
That's exactly what it is.
You pay $150, and if they see that you're too disinterested or that you're hammered when you get there, you pay the difference, which was literally like $800,
$900. Did you have to blow into a breathalyzer? No. But if you show up there and you're like,
I don't know, like I think people get there and they're fucked up and they sign up for a timeshare
and they're like, the next day they call back and they're like, I can't do, I'm not doing that.
I was drunk. I don't want that. So me and my girlfriend, we were responsible.
We had two beers right before the meeting.
So you get in there.
They sit you on a presentation first.
You go in there.
There's a former NFL player.
During the meeting, we Googled.
The guy didn't even make a practice squad.
What was his name?
Seneca something.
Played for the Packers.
Yeah, Seneca was.
No, no, no, no.
There's another Seneca that was in the NFL?
No, there wasn't.
He never played a single snap.
Seneca was awesome
in 904.
That's what we thought it was.
We looked him up
and we're like,
holy shit.
And then we're like,
it's not even it.
Did they advertise him
as a former?
Yeah.
This is an Always Sunny episode.
Yes.
Where they bring out
Donovan McNabb
and it's just this
big black fat guy?
It really was.
Well, luckily,
he was a jacked,
handsome black guy
and he hated us almost immediately, dude. Oh, luckily, he was a jacked, handsome black guy.
And he hated us almost immediately, dude.
Oh, thanks, bro.
I could have just dropped off beers.
Thank you, sir.
All right, that guy rules.
Yeah.
All right, now I'm back on the Love Crossing, bro.
We're going to cut that.
Thanks, man.
I think we just need to be on Loving Fishtown.
Thank you, sir. Thank you to the homie who brought us beers.
Yeah, seriously, we appreciate it.
And that's the kind of thing you can find in Philadelphia
because the rent is too damn high here, so people have to give out free beers. Yeah, seriously, we appreciate it. And that's the kind of thing you can find in Philadelphia because the rent is too damn high here,
so people have to give out free beers.
Yeah, you're not kidding.
They're like, these guys literally came out here
and started, you know, this might be their home.
They really think this is where we live.
They're like, what is this, like a one-bedroom, $1,500 a month?
So you get to the timeshare meeting.
It's a two-hour-long meeting.
Describe, like, the beginning of it.
How many people were there
and what your thoughts on it were?
I feel disgusting,
but it's me and my girlfriend
and like four clearly low-income families.
Yeah.
And they are sucked in right away
because the guy comes like,
hey, you're...
Something like that.
Are we talking like church pastor guy?
No.
Walking in?
No, he's like,
I'm just your fun kind of cousin energy,
like that kind of thing. Like he's shucking and jiving. Everything he's? No, he's like, I'm just your fun kind of cousin energy, like that kind of thing.
Like, he's shucking and jiving.
Everything he's talking about, he's like, buy this, you get points.
Never tells you the total of how much you're paying.
You get these many points.
You get these many points.
And these points can book you a thing in Hawaii.
It can book you a thing in Seattle.
And he asked us, he's like, dream vacation, where do you guys want to go?
And me and Gab panicked.
We said, Wildwood.
He was like, dude, what?
Yeah.
He hated us immediately.
Are you serious
yeah he called us out during the meeting he's like going around everybody's laughing at all
his jokes and me and gab are just sitting there just like and he was like i could tell some people
are interested i could tell some people by their body language and eye contact they wish they were
anywhere else holy shit this guy was crazy sassy so we sit through the entire meeting then they
sent us back to a salesperson now i don't know if we can keep
this in the episode but i gotta tell you this part go ahead he the salespeople try to peg what they
think you're like okay you said wildwood so white trash he doesn't even know about which i do love
my wildwood people of course we love the wildwoods we would all admit that yeah 100 and uh so they
try to peg what they think you're like and what they think will make you comfortable.
He comes over, immediately makes like a 2002 black joke to me.
Okay.
Can I hear it?
He came over and I'll tell the exact story.
He said, where are you guys from?
We're like Philadelphia.
And he was like, oh, well, you know, one time I had a girl come in here and she's a black girl.
And she comes in and she's got her butt hanging out of her shorts.
And I'm judging her. You know, you can never judge. And I go, you sure you can afford this? She goes, I'm a girl coming here and she's a black girl and she comes in and she's got her butt hanging out of her shorts and I'm judging her.
You know, you can never judge. And I go, you sure you can afford this?
She goes, I'm a neuroscientist. So that guy looked at me and he goes, oh, racist.
That was his way of connecting with us. He thought I was a huge racist.
I think the most interesting part of that story is I was trying to contemplate what a 2002 black joke would be.
So just some guy that like doesn't have social cues, whether
it was 20 years ago or whether it's now. Not at all.
But the worst part was just he pegged us
as he was like, oh, he's got to be a racist. So he'll love this joke.
And I was like, oh my God, dude. My girlfriend
and I just stared at him and he was like, okay,
swing and a miss.
So he brings us back, dude, in the meeting and just
it's a yap-a-thon. He's just talking about
complete nonsense, trying to butter us up.
Is this past the two hours or is this adding on to the two hours? So the presentation's a yap-a-thon he's just talking about complete nonsense trying to butter us up is this past the two hours is adding on to the two hours so the presentation's a half hour we have another
hour and a half that we have to sit through with this individual meeting he's going on and on and
on and the more that he realizes that we're not interested we're just there for the deal
he starts getting blatantly rude and offensive towards only me because my girlfriend she was
like you take the lead i can't
do this i'll freak out so he starts going when i say i'm not really interested this night he's like
can't afford it what's the what's the issue he's like you seem like a well-to-do guy i might have
been wrong i thought you could afford something like he's questioning your manhood my manhood
and i have and this is the thing you guys have learned on the podcast tactics i have no manhood
no i am the littlest baby girl of all time oh no I wouldn't be shocked if he bullied you in a timeshare.
No, he couldn't do it.
I have no ego to begin with.
I sat there and I was like, there was nothing you could say.
And he was like, ah, you can't afford it?
And he was like, your girlfriend's a beautiful girl.
You think she could probably find a guy that would want to spend like this?
I swear to God, this is stuff he's saying to me.
I'm not doing this to be funny or anything.
This is verbatim the things he's saying to me.
Dude, I love this guy.
It was crazy.
By the way, he kept saying that his wife was an oral surgeon.
Yeah.
Had maybe the most fucked up teeth
I've ever seen in my entire life.
That's right.
What he means by that,
he probably sucks
the whole neighborhood's dick.
That's exactly right.
And he just keeps hammering.
He's like,
it's a little embarrassing
to come to this meeting
and expect to buy something
and you can't even afford it.
He's like,
dude, fuck this guy.
It was crazy.
And he did my favorite sales tactic.
When he saw that we weren't asking questions, he goes, you know, I have people coming here.
They don't ask questions.
They just stare at me.
And then at the very end, they're like, oh, I can't even afford it.
So he's trying to project a fake person of like, yeah, you don't want to end up being this guy.
At the end of my story, I'm making fun of this guy.
So I'm going to try to steer you away from being the person I'm making fun of.
So the entire time when he's like, yeah, people just stare at me.
They don't even buy it. They just sit here and waste my time. As if I'm going to be like's like, yeah, people just stare at me. They don't even buy it.
They just sit here and waste my time as if I'm going to be like, oh, he's kind of talking
about me.
I can't be that guy.
But he probably had that has had to work.
Yes.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how did he say how long he's been with the company or anything?
Yeah.
32 years.
Oh, so he's just playing the playbook.
This is I mean, he gets the most insecure people of all time, probably.
Yes.
Being like and the wife's probably nagging this guy at home.
And he's like, you can't afford shit.
You're doing nothing with your life.
And he's like, you know what?
Fuck you.
Now I'm going to go buy a timeshare.
Now he's into a 30-year timeshare.
That's exactly what it is.
And the entire time, I'm telling you, the last 15 minutes, I was like, this is a humiliation ritual.
He was just like, pretty insane.
You look like somebody who is well-to-do.
Sometimes I misjudge people. I guess you can't afford this and i was like no i'm not gonna buy
it's gonna be a freak offer too he may have been a diddler he had a diddler kind of uh presentation
about himself so did he ever tell you like what he uh because didn't you say he wanted to give you a
a city did he have a city in mind yeah we kept he kept saying like what's a good place to go to
and by the way he shit on Wildwood without us mentioning it.
He was like, you know, you don't want to take a girl like this to Wildwood, New Jersey.
Oh, I'd love to see his credentials, dude.
Don't you ever talk shit about Kenans in the inlet.
That's what I'm screaming.
The inlet, dude?
You ever been there on like a midnight on a Saturday?
Oh, my God.
With a nice breeze coming off the second level?
Sweet nothings, baby.
Do not knock it until you try.
Shout out to the Wildwoods.
And then the minute that he was, like, confirmed that we weren't buying it, he was like, all right, have a good one. I got to go home. level sweet nothings baby not knocking until you try shout out to the wild woods then with the
minute that he was like confirmed that we weren't buying it he was like all right have a good one i
gotta go home literally like the entire tone changed i'm like so where are you guys from how's
this how's that and then they got insulting and then it was like all right i'm done this is stupid
and this is different than the church pastor this was salesman this search yeah this is the uh this
is the salesman church yeah church pastor was already long gone he hated us immediately and then what they do when he's done they send in a deeply foreign woman from like eastern europe
she comes in has the slimiest move i've ever heard she sits down and she's like i'm just here to kind
of check out make sure everything went okay she sounds like she's an hr person she's like i just
gonna make sure he did his job check all the boxes and then i'll let you guys go and we're like all
right great she's like i do have a thick accent. She was like Ukrainian,
which,
you know,
big ups.
And she was like,
just smile and nod.
Just,
that's all you got to do.
Midway through,
she starts selling me something.
So she's trying to set you up
to smile and nod
to try to move to the next part
of the sales process.
It's trying to sell you
a rejection plan right now.
Yeah.
And then we got out of there
and they were so pissed.
But everybody,
we saw the people on the way out
because we're all in like tiny cubicles. We see the people saw the people on the way out because we're all in tiny cubicles.
We see the people that we came into the room with and they're all sitting there.
I think everybody we were with bought something.
Because they probably got manipulated to death.
100%.
They got insulted to death.
That's all it was.
They started hitting families where they're like, look at your kids.
They're beautiful kids.
You want to take care of them?
There was kids in the meeting.
And her and I were like, see you later, fucking loser.
And did not buy a timeshare, did not extend the stay,
got out of there, 150 beans, four nights.
Damn.
That's what I'm screaming.
Vito, you'll buy some shit, dude.
You will buy.
Yeah, you will.
Nah, you got to go a couple beers in,
but you'll go there with one of your beautiful queens,
and she'll start saying.
Yeah.
You guys have a bad night the night before.
She'll be like, you know, this bad night the night before oh she'll be yeah
she'll be like you know this podcast i don't know about it i don't think it's really gonna do
anything you know the last episode kind of the views are a little little sad yeah and she's gonna
be like you should probably buy me a timeshare and you're gonna be in this guy's cubicle you're
gonna look over to this guy's family that he has to support probably not even his real family
probably saw the picture that he bought from you know stock photo stock photo from the frame
from the pier 1 imports.
And you're going to look at these people
and you're going to say,
you're right, honey.
We should buy a timeshare.
And then two months from now,
you guys will be broken up
and you'll have a timeshare
the next few years.
Yeah.
Only objection is he will go,
you're right, mama.
We should buy a timeshare.
You're right, my new bean queen.
Damn, dude.
So you got...
Dude, that sounds like absolute torture. torture like i don't even know if
that's worth 150 i would love to watch you specifically in that meeting because i think
i could take more of a beating than you're willing to take oh i'll take a beating i can see you being
like if you say another fucking word to me i'll flip no i would have been like that i'd be like
dude are we done with this like you know i'm not gonna buy let's just i i like to be like
come to man to man yeah let's just let's just let's just i'm over here you're over here let's be in the fucking middle but he'd find the middle for you and he'd be like, come to man to man. Yeah. Let's just, let's just, let's just, I'm over here.
You're over here.
Let's be in the fucking middle.
But he'd find the middle for you and he'd be like, all right, we can't do this.
Let's do this.
Then I'd be like, dude, I'm not buying from you.
I'm, I'm, you, you can't sell me.
I'm unsellable.
Really?
Yeah.
I am not a buyer.
He, this guy thinks he's fucking Baldwin in, uh, the ABC thing. Um, uh, Tom Garvey, Tom. Tom, I don't know.
It's a movie that Al
Bohm is in. I know what you're talking about.
And he thinks he's always,
he literally probably goes home every single night
and watches that movie.
And he's just probably reciting to himself, be like, ABC,
baby, ABC. Always be
closing. No matter how much
you got to check some dude's manhood who you
just met 15 minutes ago
me and my girlfriend are both not the brightest bulbs so he's looking at two people just like
with just blank stares staring him back and eventually he got to a point where he's like
it's kind of like trump versus biden dude he saw just a dead person staring back at him
and he's trying to trump it up he's insulting he's throwing out his things and me and her like what
are you what are you even talking about? I have a fucking
malarkey. He tried to turn us against each other
at one point, too. He was like,
she's barely spoken. Are you going to let her talk at all?
And I was like, and then she talked.
She was like,
Did you have to leave the resort to go to this?
Yes. Different hotel.
Different hotel. Drive, walk?
Uber. Uber?
We came from Magic Kingdom, dude dude the happiest place on earth yeah
went right to uh and then i'll tell you this much i won't say his name of course of course
he has an album on spotify of him singing and playing guitar of course he does the salesman
how oh my god yeah any good kyle oh song out loud dude dude but that's the thing like
that's a now i kind of feel for this guy that's a creator it's a creator who never made it and
he's just he's taking out his insecurities on you now that's actually a great point yeah that's a
good thing he's calling you poor because he's poor because he remembers like buskering for like 10
years of his life and he remembers like you told me you're a successful comedian that you get paid
to do what you should have what you do it's like oh by the way it would
also if you would have walked back there or got a new we're back there and be like by the way i see
that you're in the arts yeah you're a creator yourself i have an artist myself myself you know
he i wish i could have been cooler than that dude he kind of got me towards the end where i started
to get like dry mouth and nervous and i could tell he smelt it dude you would get the same way
because he's heavy and bam bam bam smack at it and eventually when he started hitting me with the insults i was like um
i you know which it's not it's not in our future you can't sell me i would rather buy a new laptop
not get the protection plan and then buy a new laptop then somebody sold me a 200 protection
plan yeah i think you're right i think you're right but just me in that moment you think you're
you're bigger for your bridges than you really are when you're in the goddamn foxhole. They hit you
and you're like, okay, I can see why this works on people.
No. I would never buy.
I just want to knock it off. You'd say that?
I'd knock it off. Give me like your exact
how you would say it right now. I'd go, Kyle, look,
why don't you just make one small purchase?
I'd be like, dude, let's call a spade a spade.
You know this ain't happening. I know this ain't happening.
Why don't we just cut the shit and let me get out of here and just say
I was here for the two hours. I think if you said the phrase, if you want to call a spade a spade, that would probably ain't happening. I know this ain't happening. Why don't we just cut the shit and let me get out of here and just say I was here for the two hours?
I think if you said the phrase, if you want to
call Spade a Spade, that would probably shut him down.
That's pretty good. Did you use a little soliloquy like
that? Yeah, it's a nice soliloquy.
Hey, folks, how are you?
We're a podcast called Men at Work.
Thank you so much. We're actually asking
this one episode is how do young
professionals afford
the city of Philadelphia because it's not the most affordable city.
I only need three minutes of your time.
My man.
And if you want to join, too, we've got another one.
I was going to say, half of it is get married.
Yeah.
Oh, here we go.
That's true.
I did pull that hack where I moved in with my fiance,
and it's real sick to split the rent.
Yeah, it's a good move.
It is real sick to split the rent.
So just throw these headphones on for us,
and then take those microphones and everything.
And we're ready to go.
What's your first name?
Patrick.
Patrick.
I'm Sarah.
Sarah.
And you guys are married?
We are married.
Sweet.
Okay.
All right.
So we're asking people what they do for a living and how they afford the city of Philadelphia
because I guess we're actually kind of lucky because I think we're like the third most
affordable city of like big cities and stuff, which is kind of sick,
even though like it's easier to afford a home now, apparently.
Yeah.
Than it is to, you spend more when you own a home
and you spend, no, you spend less when you own a home.
You spend more when you rent in the city.
I think that's right.
Okay. Yeah.
Got it. So what do you do for a living?
I work for a nonprofit in the city.
Got it.
It's called the Philadelphia Orchestra and Ensemble Arts Philly.
I am a digital marketing manager.
Love it. Very nice. And what do you do?
I do Medicare sales. I'm a sales trainer for a health insurance company.
Work from home.
Got it. Got it.
So the exact opposite of a nonprofit. You're totally for it.
Nonprofit and I'm very much for it.
It's good yin and yang here.
Very nice.
I like that.
I like that.
So how do you afford the city?
One, I don't think, like you said, compared to other cities,
like we have her sister-in-law or my sister-in-law lives in New York
and her rent compared to ours.
And I have friends who live in San Francisco.
One, it's definitely having two incomes.
Got it.
When we first moved into our lease
We got like two months free so that you have a lot of like apartment
Complexes that try to get you in by giving you some sort of incentive. I'm in that point
We were too lazy to move so we were like, all right
We're gonna renew this leaf and we've been there for five years now
Just being you know smart like not going out as often as you like want to not get in delivery as much as you want
To you just budgeting like I think it think Philly's a very affordable city.
We've lived all over in many different neighborhoods,
and there's value in every neighborhood.
And with that, if you can afford where you want to live, it's great.
What would be the most affordable neighborhood, you think?
For, like, bang for your buck?
You think so, yeah.
I don't know.
Oh, yes.
I've had this jersey since 2001.
2001. He had his career high that night.
That's true. RIP to the goat, Mutombo.
RIP.
So you have valuable jerseys and then they grow in value.
That's another way to say it.
You can only buy a house if you sit on a Mutombo jersey for 20 years.
Not the Mutombo one. Not in his house.
You can't get in his house.
But no, I think it's just being smart with your money and then um what's the uh i don't know where we've lived so we've lived in west philly we've lived in mani
young we live chinatown man um we've been all over you've gotten you've gotten the bank yeah
but we've also like our careers have kind of helped along the way yeah sure both actually
actors when we first started. Wow.
So we lived in like a 200-square-foot studio apartment when we first, like right before COVID.
So we're like, all right, if we can survive this,
we've got a good life ahead of us.
Struggling artists?
We were.
We were.
What was that life like?
That's why I'm very much for-profit these days.
Yeah, exactly.
That's why medical sales is pretty sick.
It was fun when you got the work.
We met doing it, so it definitely had a net positive.
But it's a hard career. Was it a play met on was it an actual like a commercial shoot both like acting interns okay working downtown at walnut street okay okay yes but when you're an
actor it's never just one job either you need multiple streams of income so you just have
all the different side hustles because you don't get paid to audition when you're an actor but you
need to have time to audition which is why it's not it was not a sustainable career for us but it is for a
lot of people one struggling artist is cute but two struggling artists yeah that is so fair tell
that to our girlfriends and fiances yeah listen up ladies so uh you guys met while you're actors
yeah who was the better actor she is for, for sure. Yeah? Oh, yeah, for sure. I lasted a little longer than you did.
Okay.
I backed out because I knew.
I was like, if any of us is making it, we'll back her.
Dude, you have to have some stories where, like, one of you came home.
You're like, we can't do this anymore.
It is insane.
I mean, I'm sure you guys lived in, like, what was the apartment?
Like, 200 square feet?
Yeah, it was.
So, we didn't even have, like, an oven.
We had, like, a convection oven and a microwave. It was pretty much our...
It's pretty sweet.
And a mouse haven.
Yeah, it was also a lot of...
So we were cooking in our bathroom.
We had multiple stations.
I had the convection oven going to the bathroom at one point.
Because that's how small the apartment was.
But that's what we could afford at the time.
What were you paying if you don't mind me asking?
It was in Rittenhouse, but it was $900 a month.
Damn, $900 at Rittenhouse for anyone who doesn't know.
Between two of us.
That's incredible.
It was 16th between Spruce and Pine.
Got it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When Fox and Hound was still there.
Yeah.
RIP.
RIP.
Wow, that's crazy.
I can't stop thinking about, like, two actors living together.
You guys just, like, I mean, this is, I hate to, I'm sorry to imagine you guys, but I imagine you guys just, like, twirling around the studio and hitting glass of wine and singing and
doing lines together
Yeah, never mind not gonna comment on that
No lines of the play
Come on what kind of guy you think we are
We can cut that bit yeah, of course yeah
So today yeah we can cut that bit yeah of course yeah of course um so today do you think like the way things are costing and maybe it's just because like i don't know i've grown up a little bit and
been like holy shit life is so hard to afford things nowadays you probably have to have like
14 jobs now to like yes what is for your passions multiple strings of income multiple roommates
especially in new York City.
There's always a bunch of actors, three or four bedroom apartments that people are living in.
Also, I think that a lot of actors come from a privileged background who could have families
that also support their lifestyle because it's not easy. But yes, the hustle has to be there
in order to afford it right when did you know it
was time to get out there had to be like a moment that you remember being like there was a there was
like a few there was just there was times where it was hard to plan for the future so we were
thinking about getting married like we were still uh dating at that time wasn't we're even like
thinking about fiances or anything because i couldn't afford a ring um and it just the the
grind got to a point where it's just like,
it was only like five years, I guess I did it.
So there's people who've been grinding and grinding.
That's a long time.
Five years is a long time.
Yeah, it was just the inconsistency and the fact that like,
when I did have a gig, like I'm working nights and weekends
and all my friends are out nights and weekends.
So it took kind of a social kind of impact as well.
And it just wasn't fun anymore.
So once it stopped being fun and it's not paying the bills, was just time to hang it up and honestly i'm in like a training
role now so i do a lot of kind of the same like in front of people and on my feet and she's still
in the industry with working with the kimmel center and doing their digital marketing so we
get a lot of free tickets this evening we saw bookworm in last night um so we still get to be
patrons which is great and i'm sure you use your thespian voice when you're training oh you know i
do i love it you do have a nice thespian voice. It's very relaxing. I've almost
fallen asleep in a nice way the entire time. It's very relaxing. You guys both get all it out of
your diaphragm. Yeah. Your entire diaphragm. That's the training baby. In the most appropriate
way. I want you guys to read me a storybook every night. This is absolutely wonderful.
Maybe we got a future in audiobooks. There you go. Another side hustle. There you go. That's perfect.
Let's do it.
Very nice.
Any advice to young professionals who might be like slaving away watching this right now
and being like, I can't afford this goddamn city.
Keep going at it, I guess.
If something's not working, don't be afraid to try something new.
Even if it's a completely different career path, it could work out for the better.
It's just sometimes you have to take that leap and that's a hard leap to do.
So also I want to add the societal pressures of buying a house and making that the next step.
I don't think that we should be living in our, we're supposed to do this. And we've been renting
for a while. We're very happy. I know a lot of friends who buy houses and all the unexpected costs that come up with it. It's hard. You have to have a lot of savings, but maybe we'll
buy a house this year too. I don't know. Yeah. Renting's nice because when things break down,
I think she was waiting for a yes.
Renting is awesome because things break down and the guy comes and he fixes it.
That was a nice yes ending over there.
Yes, and maybe we won't buy a house.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
If I threw this fun fact out to you guys, would you be shocked by this?
Number three, this is Philadelphia,
number three most expensive place to park your car long term.
Yes.
Yes.
It's insane.
Because even if you find street parking,
you don't know if you're going to get a ticket
or if there's going to be a courtesy tow or something.
We pay for a garage, but we park like four blocks away from our apartment because parking
garages are insanely more expensive than farther away.
Oh, man.
Dude, it's minimum $250 to $300 a month on top of your rent to park in the least fish town.
Yep.
It's crazy.
What do you pay?
He's out in Jersey.
Come to South Jersey, guys.
It's the haven of the
free and the enjoyable.
Do you get a free parking
spot with your apartment?
Yes.
That's ridiculous.
That's the right way to
do it, baby.
Yeah, well, I mean,
that's the incentive of
living in Jersey, I guess.
Well, that's hurtful.
I know what you mean by
that.
I would not get by me
there, Thespian.
I know what you're
saying.
He says Jersey.
He goes, no, no, no.
No, not in my head.
All right.
Well, I think we should finish on that.
Awesome joke.
Terrific.
Thanks for sitting down, guys.
Thank you so much.
We really appreciate it.
We really appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Thanks so much.
You ever hit with a sales pitch or anything that you were like, I can't believe this is
happening?
Have I ever been sold on anything?
Not actually buying it, but in that position where you're sitting there and somebody's
just bombarding you.
For some reason, dude, Jehovah's Witnesses disarm me.
Really?
Because they're always so cute.
They're always old ladies.
They're always in their
Sunday's best.
They are.
They come to the door.
You want to slam it
right in their face,
but that's somebody's mother.
That's somebody's sister.
Yeah.
Somebody's wife.
Do you get those a lot here
in F-Town?
Used to get them
a fair amount more.
I also think,
I think the government
might have made them illegal.
I think so.
They cracked down on them
going up to knock on doors and stuff.
And also, I'm not a walk-up anymore,
so they wouldn't even come to me.
Yeah.
But the Jehovah's, man, they got me.
I'm kind of with you, yeah.
They got me.
Maybe some of the religious spirits
that kind of disarmed me.
Maybe I'm more into that.
Maybe it's the Catholic school.
Maybe it's the trauma
from Catholic school for 12 years.
It's also, it's like two white guys.
A black family comes to your doorstep and you shut the door. You're going to look worse than they could ever say. It's true. That's really years it's also it's like two white guys like a black family comes to your doorstep
and you shut the door
you're gonna look worse
than they could ever say
it's true
that's really what it is
it's true
you have like a well-to-do
like you said
Sunday's Best
nice looking black family
if you're the guy
who's like get out
you're screwed
you're screwed
like a guy
you're dressing down
the nice black lady
you're in the wrong
you gotta dress her up
you're like look
I understand
if your kid goes to the hospital
you wanna let him die
that pissed me off
yeah
that pissed me off I feel. That pissed me off.
I feel bad for you.
Besides that, did you fall in love with any of the characters or anything?
I'm telling you, you keep talking mess about Disney, dude.
My hometown, Disney.
It is the greatest place.
It's so fun.
It's so sick.
Everybody's on the same page.
Shut up and answer the question.
Who'd you fall in love with?
The princess from... She's the only black princess she was beautiful i can't
think of her name look at you and veto with the newbie in queens i love them she was really sweet
she waved to me like this she did one of these and i was like she put a spell on you i got excited
she put a damn spell on me dude she voodooed me damn and uh it was sweet dude that's the other
thing like you walk around you look at like all these people dressed up, all the princess costumes, and you go, okay.
Where'd you spend the most time in?
Epcot, baby.
Where'd you drink?
All around the damn planet.
I mean, a couple countries.
Morocco.
Why is that there?
France.
The fuck is Morocco doing in Epcot, dude?
I thought the same thing.
It's a third world country with, like, a small little area that is like a resort.
Well, that's my bigger
axe to grind
is Animal Kingdom
is a entire theme park
that is modeled after
like the slums of
like Northern Africa.
Got it.
And I understand
everybody's dealing
with their own thing.
Every country is
fighting their own battle.
Shut up and get to it.
But it really is pretty
uncomfortable to be like,
they have people from Nigeria
trying to sell you trinkets and stuff,
and you're like, dude, I'm sorry.
You don't have to do this.
This is weird.
Oh, yeah.
Are they real Nigerians,
or are they putting on an accent?
They had the accent.
They had the accent,
and you're looking at all the buildings
where the food's in.
It's like the roofs are concaved, which really what's happening is like there's missile attacks and stuff.
But they're just like, ah, it's just kind of like true to form.
Wait, what?
Oh, yeah.
Animal Kingdom, dude.
There's parts of Animal Kingdom where it's like this cannot be, this can't be right.
Yeah.
What do you mean missile attacks?
I think things, Do missiles ever happen
in Africa? No.
Okay. I could see that you'd
say that. When was the last African
war that was fought between Africa and another
country? Kony 2012?
Yeah.
I will say
one thing. Yeah.
I got weaponized. Maybe that was my cell. Dude, I was big on Kony thing. Yeah. I got weaponized. Maybe that was my cell.
Dude, I was big on Kony 2012.
Yeah.
Huge on Kony.
Like, I started this whole thing on my campus passing out, like, Kony 2012 shit.
Yeah.
No, you did not.
I do not know why.
I think I was in a weird area.
I think I might have just gotten through a breakup or something like that.
But for some reason, it was me and these two other like lesbian chicks.
Sure.
Who were just way too like liberal for my for my liking.
And we sat in the fucking quad and passed out like Kony 2012 posters, like like custom made Kony 2012 posters and stuff.
Like I must have looked like the biggest fucking door.
I just quit basketball. That's what like the biggest fucking door i just quit basketball
that's what it was yeah yeah i just quit the basketball team i had i was i was lost in life
all my identity all my roommates were basketball players and stuff they would go off to practice
i would have to figure out things to do like watch coney 2012 videos and just go down a wormhole of
coney 2012 about like what was even the thing it was like there was this dictator who was who was
stealing all these people and everything it was like child soldiers i think was even the thing? It was like there was this dictator who was stealing all these people and everything. It was like child soldiers, I think.
It was like that was most of their army.
And it wasn't even real?
No.
Was it real and the foundation behind it was a scam?
Yes.
That's what it was, right?
But it was like not that big of a, I don't want to say anything too bad.
No, it wasn't.
No, no, no.
I think you're right.
It was like not that big of a thing.
Something like that.
Yeah.
And it was just like I sent, I might've sent these people like a couple thousand dollars.
No fucking way, dude.
Dude, I'm pretty sure like, I'm telling you, man, I was so, and I don't give a fuck about anyone but myself.
Yeah.
But like.
Okay, dude.
What a crazy thing.
That's why the Jehovah's were never coming to your house.
They're like this self-centered bastard.
Yeah, dude.
Until I met my fiance, I'm self-centered as fuck.
But dude, that's what, like, I kind of became.
You being a Kony 2012 guy is like,
if you gave me 10 million guesses of what you were like,
I would have never landed on that.
So you're standing in the quad.
Do you have an idea of what you're even handing out to people?
Dude, they were sick posters.
If you emailed the Kony 2012 people,
they would send you a stack of posters to give out to people.
I can't believe this.
They were like the Obama hope.
I think I have a photo on Facebook.
Oh, dear God, please, dude.
That I hope I can put in this episode.
That's going to be crazy.
You went to Temple and there's like impoverished neighborhoods.
This is Washington College.
Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Even still, there's impoverished neighborhoods that are like, hell bus.
Like Baltimore is like 45 minutes down the road.
It's me.
Just come on.
Stop these kids from overseas that I didn't hear about.
I didn't even know who existed a month ago.
Wow.
You would be sold by this timeshare.
The fact that you aren't going to 2012, I'm telling you.
I think Kony 2012 is what made me into the asshole I am today.
Perhaps, but...
Why I wouldn't be sold.
Oh, man, come on.
These sales guys are so thorough.
He would have looked up that you were part of that,
and he would have brought it up during the meeting.
He'd be like, can you believe the child soldiers in Africa?
And you're like...
I would just have like a...
Like Zoolander, when he plays the one song,
and it turns him into like... he wants to kill the prime minister.
You just say Kony 2012 and all of a sudden I'm reverted back to...
You're activated.
2012?
Yeah, dude.
For me, Kony 2012 was like a funny hashtag to put at the bottom of my Instagram pictures.
Yeah, I didn't put up the black square on Instagram, but I supported Kony 2012, so I think I kind of went 1-1.
I think those are totally different things.
I'm a 1-1.
I think it's pretty telling.
I don't care. I went 1-1. I think those are totally different things. I'm a 1-1. I think it's pretty telling. I don't care.
I went 1-1.
You can't win them all.
Dude, Kyle 2012.
That's a new hashtag, guys.
If you're listening to the episode, please just put hashtag Kyle 2012.
We need to save Kyle from the child warfare that he's a part of here.
Folks, how are you?
We do a podcast where we talk to people what we do for a living and stuff.
Today's episode is how do young professionals afford the city?
Five minutes tops. What's episode is how do young professionals afford the city? Five minutes tops.
What's your first name?
Bob.
Bob.
Is that a real name?
It feels like an alien.
That's an alien.
He just completely corrupts.
My real name is Edward.
Okay.
But my middle name is Robert,
so I go by Bob.
So you go by Bob.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Cool.
With a third Bob.
Yeah.
Damn.
No, the second Bob. second bob oh okay senior never went
by bob got it junior went by bob oh really yeah how does that go like the naming thing of like
all being bobs does nobody realize bob might not be the best why movement is bob a good name bob's
a great name uh my dad's name is bob oh all right yeah i grew up bobby was better bobby's cool but
once you turn 18 you become bob i grew up between my dad was Bob, my next-door neighbor was Bob,
and my other next-door neighbor was Bob.
Just three Bobs.
No shit.
Bob's not around that much anymore.
No, no.
My dad either.
Neither is Edward.
I think people got Bobbed out.
Edwards or Diamond.
So what do you do for a living?
I'm a CPA.
Okay.
So what are you asking young professionals how they can afford the city of Philadelphia?
So you can.
CPAs can.
Yeah.
No, I get it.
I mean, you know, some people come for money.
Some people get benefits, you know. You? No. You work hard. Yeah, no, I get it. I mean, you know, some people come for money. Some people get benefits, you know, you know, you work hard. Yeah, I guess maybe.
So what do you other than rent? What do you think you spend the most on weekly or monthly? Most weekly. I mean, well, we have the mortgage.
I got a mortgage.
Sorry to assume.
Oh, no, it's fine.
That's fine.
Not many of us young professionals are buying nowadays.
But I guess when you're a CPA, you should be buying. You should be.
Did you run the numbers?
Is that like accounting numbers?
Yeah, no, I sat there and ran.
Did you cook the books a little bit?
No, I'm not cooking the books.
There you go.
I almost had you.
He marinated the books.
That's all.
No, no.
I mean, you know, you figure it out. You do a little budget. How long have you been a I almost had you. He marinated the books. That's all. No, no. I mean, you know, you figure it out.
You do a little budget.
How long have you been at CPA?
Since 2015.
I'm a terrible budgeter.
Give me a tip.
Give you a tip?
I mean, I would just say create an Excel file.
Okay.
Understand your monthly expenses each month.
Set it out.
Run through that.
Yeah.
Do a little test run every month. See what the averages are. And then you can kind of set it out, run through that, do a little test run every month,
see what the averages are,
and then you can kind of map it out.
I mean, unless are you like a W2 employee
or are you contracted?
I'm W2.
So W2, you can kind of actually analyze it going forward
because you can see your paycheck's is inconsistent
unless you get bonuses.
You know, when a bonus gets paid,
you're gonna get more money in your paycheck.
But you're also gonna get that gets withheld at like a higher rate,
unfortunately.
So setting up the Excel file,
I always want to do it,
but I'm so scared to see just how much I spend on drinking and Walt Disney
World.
Are those two things normal with clients you work with?
My big two expenses are.
Those are fixed expenses that he has.
Drinking and Walt Disney World.
I mean,
I don't know. I guess maybe, you know, youinking and Walt Disney World. I mean, I don't know.
I guess maybe, you know, you try and figure it out.
I mean, how old are you guys?
I'm 31.
He's 28.
All right.
Well, 28.
I don't know how much I was budgeting back then, myself living in the city.
So, you know, I'm 35.
What time did you start budgeting?
What age?
Probably once we started dating.
Yeah, so long ago.
So, seven years ago.
I kind of got a little bit more serious about it.
No, so you were
a 21-year-old.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was a little bit
of an old soul, though,
I think.
Got it.
Yeah.
So, I got to start now.
I'm way behind the eight ball.
I would think.
I'm way behind the eight ball.
If you're behind the eight ball,
I'm...
You're behind the six ball, dude.
The game's over, dude.
The game is over.
The next guy's on right now.
So, being a CPA,
you obviously have
a good financial understanding
of yourself.
I've noticed that since I've started dating somebody, I'm way less of a psycho spender.
Is that kind of something that happens as you get older?
I think it depends.
I think like the longer you go in a relationship, you kind of understand like, you know, there's
less more that spontaneous, like going out for drinks on like a random night or whatnot.
You know, you get a little bit more consistent in a rhythm.
Right.
You kind of set it.
I mean, personally, you should not, you should not stray from going on those dates and
everything like you should still like keep it like you know you know you want to let the honeymoon
phase go a little bit further than it does right you know it's like it's good especially like you
know you're 28 now if you see whoever you're dating if it's going to go further like you know
you kind of want to forecast a little bit but you don't want to get ahead of yourself. Right. So if you get ahead of yourself, the next
thing you know, you're like, wait, what did I just waste all this time forecasting for something
that's not going to happen? So kind of just scale back a little bit and figure out what you want to
do there. That's what I would say. Got it. Are you married? Any children or anything?
Married and a baby due in december whoa first one congratulations
congratulations appreciate it are you gonna miss being dinks thanks double income no kids awesome
it's it's good i like it enjoyable you know you can go to europe yeah now it's just gonna be uh
you know weekly trip to ocean city for a few years. Not a bad gig.
Not a bad gig.
I love the shore.
Yeah.
I got a friend that hates on the shore.
He says that people from Delco, why do they just go to the shore every summer?
And it's like, I see both ways.
Yeah.
You can mix in a shore trip as long as you mix in maybe getting out of the Delaware Valley,
maybe in the wintertime.
Yeah, no, agreeable.
Maybe in the summertime.
Yeah.
Maybe in the spring.
I mean, yeah,
like my winter ski trips
are pretty much kaput.
Okay, yeah.
So, yeah.
I'm not going to be doing that.
Does the little fellow
already have a budget line
or are we waiting?
Little fellow?
I don't know.
We don't know yet.
We're going to be surprised.
Do they have a budget line yet?
I'm probably going to create
one in a lot of cities.
529 plans.
Just like boring stuff.
Boring stuff in life.
It's terrible, the forecasting I think in life already. Like, what am I going to do?
It's not the most
ideal thing. I mean, because you've got to be like a year ago,
you were just slamming beers, having the time of your life
and now you're going to have a kid in December.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I cut back.
Oh, sweet.
I cut back some time.
Shout out to you, dude.
You know.
Anyhow.
Yeah, I was going to say,
this podcast is taking place
with our wonderful wife over here,
keeping a stark eye,
which we appreciate.
We love it.
Give one piece of advice for people
who are young professionals.
You've already gone through it.
I'm sure you kind of, you know,
were in the city looking at rent,
looking at bills, looking at bills, looking
at everything, being like, how the hell am I going to afford it?
It was like 500 bucks, like my first year out of school, like in Manioc.
So it was, it was, it wasn't bad living with five people in a basement that flooded wasn't
the best.
But I mean, I don't know.
I say like, look at your budget, figure out what you can do, figure out a neighborhood
that you feel comfortable and safe.
And I would say, you know, don't just get a one bedroom.
Yeah.
Yeah. You'll always get through it. Yeah. Yeah.
You'll always get through it.
Yeah. Just don't abuse your credit card. I think that's where most people get the most fault.
Student loans are terrible. I had some loans. I got lucky. My mom worked at Westchester,
so I went there for free. So tuition waived. So it was a good deal. But I would just say,
loans are a big issue for students now. I would say people fresh out of college,
it's not a fun situation,
but I would say credit cards is where most people get in trouble.
So credit cards, I've noticed,
apparently, I've seen in the articles all the time now
that we're in the biggest credit card debt
that we've ever been as a country.
Do you have any idea of why that is?
We're just a nation of consumerism.
Is that what it is?
I think it is.
I think everybody just wants to be flashy.
You want the next style.
You want to outdo the Joneses.
And like, what way can you get advanced?
It's like, all right, hey, I'm just going to use a credit card.
Then you keep deferring and deferring it.
And then if you're not paying off that minimum balance,
these banks are just collecting interest on you.
And then you think people see like the Instagram shit and everything.
And they're like, oh, I want to be just like Stephanie.
Yeah.
Like, you know, it's like I learned like younger when I saw people that were doing these trips.
And like I wasn't going to Europe or whatever.
And I was younger and stuff.
And all of a sudden I realized like what position I am instead of them.
It's a little daunting.
Got it.
All right.
Well, I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Thank you for sitting down.
This was great.
Thank you so much, man.
All right, cool.
I hope everyone learned something.
Thanks again, man.
Thanks so much, dude.
Thank you so much.
Nah, dude, I learned something.
As long as I learned something, that's all that matters.
Here's my question about the credit card stuff.
Are you good or bad with the credit card?
I used to be good until four days ago.
Okay.
All right.
Well, relax.
I mean, my credit card has been totally manhandled over the past month.
But here's what I wonder, and I wonder if you have the answer to this.
If I spend a ton on my credit card and I pay the minimum balance and then I die with no like legal connections.
Who cares?
I think it moves on to your next of kin.
I have no kids.
I think it goes to your parents.
They would love to just to know I had a nice time.
One hundred percent.
But they don't want to get hit with a ninety two thousand dollar bill.
But if it's like a four or five thousand dollar bill, fine.
Fuck it.
That's what I'm saying. Ten thousand dollars. All right. Well, we'll figure it out. I think you're right. 100% but they don't want to get hit with a $92,000 bill but if it's like a $4,000 or $5,000 bill fine fuck it $10,000 okay
we'll figure it out
I think you're right
what's up man
we're just asking people what they do for a living in Philly
how they afford to live here
alright man
shit
that's my best sales pitch I have
frig
bros what's up do you live in the city? do you work in the city? That's my best sales pitch I have. Frig.
Bros, what's up?
What's up, fellas?
Do you live in the city?
Do you work in the city?
Do I work in the city?
No.
You don't?
Well, can we ask you how you afford the city?
Do you rent or own in the city?
Yeah, we rent.
Two minutes of your time.
We just need three minutes of your time.
We're a podcast called Men at Work where we ask you what they do for a living. I think I've seen you guys on Instagram.
Yeah, I've been talking about it.
Oh, really?
That's a little exciting.
Sell drugs?
Between you and God.
I knew that right away.
Hey, did you sell drugs?
It's okay.
You look like a guy who sells drugs.
Hi, how are you?
Do you want to come on?
What's up?
What's your first name?
Nora.
Nora, how are you?
I'm Kyle.
This is Matt.
Nice to meet you.
What do you do for a living? I'm Kyle. This is Matt. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
What do you do for a living?
I'm a smoothie girl on Frankfurt.
What's a smoothie girl entail?
I make smoothies.
Oh, okay. And I check people out.
Pretty sweet.
Pretty sweet.
So are these smoothies, are these like the, I keep seeing like the, every time I see a
vegetable go into a smoothie, I'm ready to fist fight somebody.
Is that like the new norm now where you're getting like spinach and all these different
things in there? Yeah, we have a spinach smoothie. It's ready to fist fight somebody. Is that like the new norm now where you're getting like spinach and all these different things in there? Um, yeah, we have a spinach smoothie. Um,
it's mostly fruit though. I only have one vegetable smoothie. Do you do any, like,
do you pass any judgment when you see the smoothie that somebody's ordering? Cause that's something I
get nervous about it, like a coffee shop or like when I'm getting a smoothie as I'm ordering it,
I feel like you guys actually know what's happening. I feel like the judgment might be passed.
Um, I really don't give a shit. Okay. Sweet. I like the word. Somehow what's happening. I feel like the judgment might be passed. I really don't give a shit.
Okay.
Sweet.
I like Nora.
Somehow that hurts worse.
I don't know why.
There are people, we have like a salted peanut butter smoothie with miso, and some people
ask for it without salt, so without like all the flavor, which I find really strange.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is weird.
Huh.
Don't really care.
Do you live in the city?
I do.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Yeah.
How is it living in the city affordability-wise?
Do you rent?
Sorry, do you rent?
No, I own.
I actually moved here because it's affordable.
Really?
Where were you coming from?
I'm from LA.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, definitely more affordable.
Yeah.
Why'd you move?
It's a good question it's because it's because i mean i just wanted to do something different after high school i don't want to like stay around like where i've always been
okay so you grew up there so when you came here and you were like holy shit it's only four dollars
for a coffee instead of twelve dollars for a coffee. Were you like, this is the greatest place on Earth?
I don't buy anything, so that's probably...
What does that mean?
You're a very interesting character.
You have to buy something, Noor.
I really don't buy anything.
How do you get around it?
Do you do delivery?
Yeah, I do Amazon Fresh and Whole Foods delivery.
Got it.
The prices are still better, right?
Or no? Are they the same in LA as they are here i can't imagine that they might be like a dollar cheaper or
something really yeah i haven't been to la in like a while though okay when'd you move here
like eight months ago or something oh wow oh so you're new to the area okay yeah
were you you're born and raised west coast and now you're on the East Coast.
Do you notice, like, huge differences, like, from a people perspective?
Kind of, yeah.
It's kind of funny.
I haven't been home in a long time, so I have, like, I see it through, like, my high school eyes.
But, like, I do see differences.
Like, I think the East Coast is more, like, intense.
I think people are a little bit more like.
I'm shocked you jump on this podcast and you being from L.A., honestly.
Why?
Because I just don't feel like L.A. people would unless they're like trying to become like Instagram influencers with like jump on a podcast.
I feel like they're really slow.
They're like, you know, stick to themselves and everything.
Have them are fucking blazed out of their minds anyway.
So it's like I just yeah, I would think you were an east coaster when you
jumped on but this is shocking yeah that's i guess that's kind of the difference i noticed
east coast people are more like ready to like dig into things and like la people are more like just
just watching yeah um so that's kind of actually why I like Philly, because it's like, it's more, I don't want
to use the wrong words.
Go ahead.
You can't hurt us.
We're going to be the wrong words.
You seriously probably can't say anything that we already haven't said about ourselves.
I don't want to get canceled on the internet.
We're not even filming.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
No, we are.
I want to hear this word. I want to hear this word.
I want to hear this word.
Give us these choice words.
I don't know.
It's just, it's more, it feels more lively.
It's more like raw.
It's more punk in a way.
Ooh.
You know?
You're worried about getting canceled for saying lively, raw, and punk?
Maybe in LA system, but not here on the East Coast.
You can let it slag.
Yeah, dude.
Say whatever you want.
So do you see yourself staying on the East Coast long term because of that or is it kind of
like i'll do my time here i'll learn a different kind of area and then i'll go back home towards
the west um yeah and i'll see myself staying here forever i definitely uh miss home most of the time
yeah something about the west Coast is just more chill.
It's intense living here, but it's fun.
It's fun.
Yeah, dude, it's fucking amazing.
I love it here.
I can't go over to the West Coast.
I can't go to the South because it's just too slow for me.
Where you live your life just being like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
It's just impossible.
I could never move that way.
You guys would probably like the influencer sphere of LA, though.
No, I don't think I would. I think I would actually hate those people.
Really?
Yeah, I do. I think LA is just a total vapid, all-out-for-themselves kind of area in terms of the influencer space.
And that's why I would definitely hate them.
You would think you were friends with one person
and they would stab you in the back for a career move
that they got over you.
Now, is that just a perception that we
have here? She was afraid to cancel
herself for Philadelphia. I'm just going right
in. I'm hitting the
LA juggler right now, but I'm right.
It looks like you're here with
your partner or a friend or somebody that you
walked over with. You don't even know that guy.
Oh, wow. I thought you guys walked over together.
Who? The guy right behind the camera.
He doesn't work for you guys?
There's another guy too.
I thought you guys walked up together. Which one?
The guy in the orange.
Do you know the guy in the orange?
No.
I thought you guys No. Oh.
No.
Oh, you guys walked up together.
No.
He doesn't work with you guys?
No, just one of them does.
I walked up to them.
I asked, what is this? And they both answered.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, that's fucking awesome.
What a fucking insane premise.
I'm getting a contact high from Nora.
Yeah.
I like this right now.
Is this just the LA thing that I'm just getting a contact high?
Um. Because now you feel like you're so chill that it's actually chilling me out and I'm
wondering if I had a 10 gram at pool. It's possible. It's in the food. Now that we're
talking about partners, uh, dating in Philadelphia versus being in the West coast. What is it like
dating these psychopathic men in the Northeast. How does that go?
It's pretty bad.
It's pretty bad.
What's in your experiences?
Oh, God.
I was seeing a guy who we went on a few dates, and then we made it official,
and then the next day he called me,
or two days later, three days later,
he called me and he was like,
never mind, it's not you
it's me
I just
I can't
I can't do it right now
you gotta have a better story
than that
you can't hit him with
this isn't a fucking sitcom dude
you can't hit him with
it's not you
it's me
after three days
it's obviously me
it's 100% me
yeah
it's 100% Nora
it was really
sorry
in a good way
in a good way
yeah I'm sure
and I'm sure
he was a fucking loser.
Yeah.
We hate this guy.
If we see this guy,
we'll take him down.
Yeah, fuck him.
I might fuck him.
Who knows?
Have you had any other
experiences that were good
or bad?
I don't want all the bad.
I don't want all the guys
in Philly to be terrible
at dating.
I haven't really been
dating that much in Philly.
I guess I went on
a few more dates.
Did he ruin you?
No. No. I don't really been dating that much in Philly. I guess I went on a few more dates. Did he ruin you? No.
I don't know.
I actually...
Never mind.
No, I've been on a few dates.
They've been fine.
No one's been special or fun.
Got it.
Yeah.
I hear you.
How do you feel it is affording this city?
Is it affordable? I think it's super affordable yeah yeah and do you own the smoothie bar you work at or do you
just work behind the counter i i just work behind the counter oh sweet yeah sweet and you get
afforded on that kind of uh i guess hourly or salary or you meant like what do you do hourly
or salary yeah it's hourly yeah i work just part-time. Damn, you're living here
and working part-time?
How the hell does that work?
Yeah.
What do you got, trust fund?
No.
No.
You got rich parents?
They're not rich.
They're not rich,
but they have, like,
enough to, like,
to help me and my siblings,
you know,
with, like, a start.
That's pretty sick.
I don't get, like,
an allowance or anything. i um but no my dad
helped me purchase my condo that's awesome oh you own it yeah you own it yeah sick yeah so see that
see a lot of people i think would look at that and be like oh gosh she comes from money she bought
their condo but like fuck you yeah i want to work i want to work and make money just so i can do that
for my kid i would love to buy my kid a condo. I'd love to buy my kid and everyone just like always looks at like well
Your daddy bought you that and stuff. It's like yeah, yeah, you know what? Oops. He works hard
Yeah, my dad wanted me to be a landlord
Do you have any is there any intention of you becoming a landlord?
You seem like you have a real iron fist that you roll with
I do eventually want to run out my condo just because I don't expect myself to live there always.
And I want to keep that underlying investment.
Yeah.
What are your goals?
In life?
Mm-hmm.
Sure.
What's a two-year plan?
Two-year plan?
Going back to school in the spring.
Got it.
And then, so two years of school.
What are you going for um i'm undecided except i think i'm
gonna do either english or business or film or it okay so it's a pretty broad spectrum yeah
yeah so we have like 20 days to decide.
Oh, so you're in college right now?
No, I'm not.
Okay.
Do you have a degree and you're going for your graduate degree or is this going to be your undergrad?
I have my associate, so it'll be my finishing up my four year.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Dang.
You got it all figured out.
I'm kind of envious.
I feel like my life's falling apart and yours is firmly together.
Yeah.
You guys have a podcast.
Yeah, that's great.
Two white dudes with a podcast.
Who would have thought?
How about that?
They honestly make podcasting equipment
way too cheap.
Oh, really?
Oh my God.
Way too cheap.
Yeah, no, the guy,
the guy who broke up with me
had a podcast.
Oh, dear God.
With his ex who...
Oh, well, that's your fault.
Yeah, it was very strange situation. Nora. With his ex. Oh, well, that's your fault. Yeah, it was a very strange situation.
Nora.
That's crazy.
It was crazy.
So the ex-boyfriend has a podcast.
Sorry, the guy you were dating has a podcast with his ex.
Yeah, he did.
And this is while you guys are dating?
No, it was from before.
Okay.
Okay.
You should have started a new podcast with him to outdo it.
That's really the plan.
Yeah, I know.
Right.
Like why?
Like the smoothie duo.
Why'd the podcast fall apart?
Did you ever talk to him about it?
He, she got a boyfriend.
So they were exes while they were doing the pod.
Yeah.
That was the premise of the podcast.
You ever listened to an episode?
Yeah, I did.
Any good?
They were funny.
They were funny.
Yeah.
It was actually kind of good.
They talk about the trauma and everything. No, they were just talking about like yeah it was actually kind of good they talk about their trauma
and everything no they were just talking about like fucking you fucking other people am i the
asshole yeah like that type of were you listening and being like they should be together
they kind of gave sibling vibes so oh geez some of the best podcasts are sibling vibes
sweet home alabama you know nor i'll be
honest with you man i did not like you when you first came on but you really turned it around
why that's crazy to say that i like you the whole time i'm an east coast guy all right i tell it
like it is if you don't like it go back west no i'm just fucking with you uh i don't know i was
just i felt like we were just pulling uh teeth trying to get you to talk and you weren't giving us anything.
And then I feel like you opened up a little bit.
So I appreciate that.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
This doesn't feel like a compliment, but it's a compliment.
Here's a real compliment.
I enjoyed you the entire time.
I thought you were interesting.
That's a true compliment.
When you leave, he's not going to.
He's going to be like, yeah, that's falsehood.
He's full of baloney.
Anything for the TikTok.
The East Coast is unfortunately true.
East Coast.
It's good. Give it a chance. We're crazy.
But we're crazy in a good way. We're
lovably crazy. That's right. We're like
hot girl crazy without being hot.
Yeah. Hot girl crazy.
We're like slam 10 beers,
drink with the fellas,
crazy. Like the girlfriend
who's kind of one of the guys.
Okay. Crazy. Okay. I'll give it a chance of one of the guys. Crazy.
I'll give it a chance.
Nora, I feel like we've opened up so much.
Final question. What kind of stuff do you think about? What kind of stuff do I think about?
Just in general. That's actually an all-time question
because I've run into that too. You seem very deeply
interesting.
I'm just curious.
What do you think about right now?
Your guys' faces.
So before you came on, what do you think about like 20 minutes before this?
I was thinking, how the fuck do I get rid of all this food again?
That's pretty sweet.
That's pretty.
Again, that is extraordinarily nice.
And you brought this from the business you work at?
Sweet. Yeah, it's all vegan, gluten free. Oh, nice. What, that is extraordinarily nice. And you brought this from the business you work at? Mm-hmm. Sweet.
Yeah, it's all vegan, gluten-free.
Oh, nice.
What were you thinking about an hour ago?
What's the coolest thing you thought about today?
The coolest thing I thought about?
What did you think about?
I mean, you're sitting behind the counter.
You're bored out of your mind.
You're judging somebody for getting their smoothie.
I can tell you the coolest thing I thought about to try to break the ice.
I started listening to Style by Taylor Swift a lot recently,
and I kept thinking about putting an NBA I started listening to Style by Taylor Swift a lot recently, and I kept thinking about putting
an NBA edit to the song
Style by Taylor Swift. That's the coolest thing I thought
about today. I think that'd be a really cool edit
on TikTok.
I don't even know that song. Okay, that hurts.
I don't either.
Check it out, dorks. It's a pretty sweet song.
The most interesting thing I thought about
today was I think that the Phillies are going to beat the Mets.
I don't know if that is.
What was the most interesting thing you thought about?
I was probably thinking about Ghost Mountain's return.
Anyone knows?
What's that?
Ghost Mountain, underground, Soundcloud rapper got it made a
return very unexpectedly wow it's very interesting yeah music history you guys know about ghost
mountain he made a return today yeah the rapper soundcloud ghost mountain i know abel on is super
fucking good i did not expect that let's fucking go see See, he knows. Shout out Page Gang. Yeah, shout out Page Gang.
Summitary sucks now, though.
He's a Summitary hater.
Thanks, guys. Damn. That's pretty sick that those guys walked by and just knew who Ghost
Mad was. That's crazy. That's actually crazy.
We're old and out of the know. We gotta get on
Ghost Mad. Is he like a...
Nah, I'm not doing SoundCloud rap.
I draw the line as SoundCloud
rap. You sound like you were hurt by SoundCloud rap.
We just grew up on the greatest rappers of all time.
Eminem, Nas, Lil Wayne, all that stuff.
I don't need to listen to guys who just mainline codeine to their veins and just mumble.
Okay.
Am I wrong?
That's an unstoppable answer, dude.
Am I wrong?
When you shit on somebody who likes you.
Am I wrong? And's an unstoppable answer, dude. Am I wrong? When you shit on somebody's legs. Am I wrong?
And they respond with, okay.
Like, I understand that, like, I understand that my parents are like, why the hell were
you listening to this rap?
But, like, you can't tell me, like, Lil Wayne back in the day, Eminem back in the day, are
so much better than being like.
I don't think they're comparing it.
I think they're just saying, I like this.
I put my fucking.
Oh. I don't think they're comparing it. I think they're just saying, I like this. That's what it sounds like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
There's a reason why the Migos are the only mumble rappers that have made it mainstream.
True, but they did kind of change the genre.
Like, everything is kind of modeled after the Migos now.
Yeah, but they were also mumble rappers to begin with and then they blew up and they changed the
genre forever is is space is space ghost mountain a i almost said space mountain sorry i was in
disney world that's actually um wow that's pretty brutal uh is ghost mountain like a mumble rapper
can we get just give us the briefest introduction to this fellow?
He formed Haunted Mound with Cemetery, which is a witch house drill collective.
Wow.
So.
Wow.
You know what?
Fuck.
Now I'm going to have to eat my words because I kind of do like drill rep.
Yeah.
It's like Halloween themed Chief Keef.
And they do it.
I mean, this is so stupid.
Like, can we just be honest?
Like, that's dumb.
They do it 12 months out of the year?
Or are they just big in October?
They're like a spirit of Halloween type of thing. Yeah.
Like, does Ghost Mountain go under like, you know,
does he just find a Kohl's
or find an abandoned Michael's Hearts and Crafts
and he's just like, I'm going to rap here.
I don't know what he does.
I don't know. He's been hiding.
Do you listen to this Halloween rap?
What is this?
Jack the Ripper from
Jack Skellington.
This is Halloween. This is fucking Mrs. Halloween... Jack Skellington. This is Halloween.
This is fucking Mrs. Halloween, Jack Skellington, dude.
Somewhere.
That's funny you say that because Cemetery has like a thing where he calls himself Jack Skellington or something.
Yeah.
But...
Stolen Valor.
What was the question? I don't think there was one i'm
just i'm so fascinated i feel so old and so confused i'm so scared how old are you 21 23 23
okay oh you're not actually how old are you guys i'm 28 i'm really 31 in the loop here yeah
halloween themed drill rap that's real rap that's can't. Would you be comfortable just giving us
a couple lines of what that
sounds like? Spit a bar, dude.
Let it rip.
Oh, God.
It's not going to matter.
I'm blanking.
I'm blanking. I can't think of a single lyric right now.
That's fair. Lights too bright.
Lights literally too bright. I've been there.
All right, Nora.
We'll let you go. Nora, you fucking ruled, dude. That was fair. Lights too bright. That's fair. Lights literally too bright. I've been there. All right, Nora. We'll let you go.
Nora, you fucking ruled, dude.
That was great.
Thank you.
Yeah, again.
That was a lot of fun.
That was, this podcast just went off the wall.
I think you're going to be the last interview we do because that was so off the wall and
so out of note.
It's one of my favorite interviews we've ever done.
I really enjoyed that.
I can't believe Halloween drill rap is a sound that I heard out loud from a human.
I mean.
That was crazy. I'm going to listen to rap is a sound that I heard out loud from a human. I mean, that was crazy.
I'm going to listen to it.
It's Ghost Mountain.
Ghost Mountain.
He released his first officially dropped single, maybe on Spotify.
How long has he been around?
He started in 2019 and then he quit music until now.
Lights Too Bright.
Yeah.
Bills came in. It's like when you see
Robert De Niro in a commercial and you're like, how did you not
make enough money to stop doing fucking commercials? You're
144 years old. So that's
Ghost Mountain. Ghost Mountain is Robert De Niro.
People are saying. Do you know who Robert De Niro is?
Kind of.
Alright, Noor. Noor, thanks so much, dude.
That was the best, dude. Thanks.
I think I got a contact high. Noor, you're welcome on this podcast whenever you'd like to. Oh, thanks, guys. Every twoor, thanks so much, dude. That was the best, dude. Thanks. I think I got to contact Ty.
Noor, you're welcome on this podcast whenever you'd like to.
Oh, thanks, guys.
Every two months, I think I could do a Noor conversation.
I say every...
Follow us and just DM me being like, I'm Noor.
And then I'll contact you every two months if we're around here and be like, I need some more Noor in my life.
I want to get an update on Ghost Mountain.
Honestly, just hit us up when you decide it's time you should come back on the pod.
You kind of tell us. Just send us a DMm be like i'll be there on thursday this is insane
because this podcast was honestly terrible but anyway this podcast was like we're trying to find
out like how young professionals uh afford the city and everything and this just went totally
in the left field that it's just like i have no choice we have no choice but to keep this in
we're absolutely even this in. This is awesome.
So if you're watching this at home.
Shout out, Nora.
Follow Nora.
Nora, what's the socials?
I don't have social media.
No, of course you don't.
You're okay.
That's fucking great.
Nora, thank you so much.
Nora, thank you again. That was great.
Nora, get the hell out of here before we talk to you for another 40 minutes because it could easily happen.
Thanks.
All right.
This is the podcast.
Thanks for everybody who tuned in.
I don't know where we're going next.
I think we got a couple of things lined up.
We've been really, really busy.
You got any gates?
Yeah.
I'll post them on my Instagram.
I don't know off the top of my head.
We have a bunch of stuff that's not.
I'm such an elite promoter, dude.
Check the Instagram.
Check out where I'm at.
Make sure you tag us so I can repost it.
Yeah.
Are you giving me guff?
No.
Oh, sweet.
No, honestly not.
For the first time ever. That's actually pretty good. Perhaps I'm me guff? No. No, honestly not. For the first time ever.
That's actually pretty good.
Perhaps I'm the guff giver now, dude.
Look, if you guys like this episode, fucking comment and be like, hey, Kyle, this was great.
Love you, man.
It's a fucking episode.
We've had some bad ones.
This might be the worst episode of all time.
I totally disagree.
Totally.
See you at 1,400 views, baby. Shut the fuck up.
Alright, we'll talk to you guys next week.
We'll get this shit together. Peace.