Men At Work Podcast - If She Don't Hawk Tuah, I Don't Talk Tuah

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

Kyle and Matt are in Fairmount Park in Philadelphia, PA and we can't get enough of the viral Hawk Tuah girl and her new entrepreneur endeavors. We talk to a door to door salesman who tells us about his day to day, how he pees in a pinch, and teaches us about 1913 - the most consequential year in American history. We then talk to a PhD student who studies cancer genetics. We find out how much red meat we can eat and if we'll ever find the cure for cancer. A pediatric speech therapist joins and teaches us the tricks of the trade, learns about the sexiness of the Philly accent, and a TikTok trend centered around autism. Finally we finish with Kyle's run-in with a Little League parent, Matt defends Drake, and we're spurned by a potential guest. WE'VE GOT A NEW SPONSOR! Thrive Flower sells real cannabis products outside of the medical system. They have 9 strains of flower, 6 strains of pre rolled joints, 4 strains of vapes, gummies, and lemonades. They are the first and only company offering same day cannabis delivery within Philly. Order your cannabis at https://thriveflower.com/ and it will be delivered in about an hour. Use code menatwork15 for 15% off orders. Simply choose “same day delivery” during checkout. This applies for Philly residents ONLY. 00:00 - Hawk Tuah 7:08 - Door to Door Salesman 23:30 - PhD Student - Cancer Genetics 30:30 - Pediatric Speech Therapist 47:40 - Kyle's Run-In w/ Little League Parent 54:00 - Matt defends Drake 57:55 - Spurned By Guests About Us: The Men At Work Podcast asks one question: What do you do for work? After that the conversation flows from there. We’ve met substitute teachers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and more. And we’ll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a baseball game, a bar crawl, casino, and more. We like to find out what people do for a living. If you want us to come to your event email us at: [e-mail] If you want more bonus content from every episode check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ Follow Kyle: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb Follow Vito: https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en

Yo, I can't quit the Hawk 2 woman. Yeah, dude. Give me your Hawk 2. Vito, come over here and give me your Hawk 2. Get over here, dude. Don't lick your lips before you do it, dude. I don't like that at all. Hawk 2.

Jesus. Damn, dude. You've been there a time or two. Three, two, one. Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work Podcast. We found ourselves back in a park. We're outside Parks on Tap. It's a rotating beer garden that gives back.

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in Philly to some random address, then drive there and pick it up. Make the right move. We love Thrive, dude. Thrive rules. Yo, I can't quit the Hawk 2 woman. Yeah, dude. Give me your Hawk 2. the hawk too woman yeah dude give me your hawk too veto come over here and give me your hawk too get over here dude give us your best hawk too don't wet don't lick your lips for you dude dude i don't like that at all damn dude you've been there a time or two talking to this you know

no you got to do it more nonchalantly. It's kind of like, dude. Dude, she's bigger than the Kevin James meme. It's unbelievable. She's everywhere. And quickly, too. And it's like, that's not even really a new move, but I love the, it's the enthusiasm. It's not even a new move.

Shout out to you, dude. It's actually, careful. Shout out to you, man. Nah, dude, I get the job done. That's all. Dude, it's not even a new move. That's a guy who knows. I don't know. What is she even talking about? That's what I go back to. No, but it's really, it's crazy that just like, I wonder from her perspective, is she like freaking out? Like,

oh my God. She's, um, she's selling merch now. Is she really? Yeah. She's, she's, I mean, which is like the perfect thing is like an American, like that's the American dream become viral and capitalize on it. She's selling hats, like signed hats for like $40 at some convention, $30 unsigned. Wow. I didn't know that. Good for her then. That's the new entrepreneur. Yeah. It's all about what you do with your 15 minutes of fame. Yeah. And that was like maybe a minute and a half of fame and she's making money off it. What would you do? And this is not to be a man take. If like your girl's out with her friends, they're having fun. She gets caught on video doing that. What's the next morning?

As like a boyfriend boyfriend i wouldn't care but as a father that's where it is that'd be tough that's a tough one that's a tough one to come back from because you know your fucking dirty ass buddies are just all watching hawk two girl oh your daughter you're in the vfw everyone you walk in everyone turns around looks at you they're snickering and everything yeah that's a tough pill to swallow as a boyfriend capitalized baby yeah okay i love my entrepreneurial babies out there i would do the same thing to my girlfriend if you're ever getting interviewed by some some street botherer uh let it rip say your funniest thing let's make some money street botherer i'm right there with you dude what do

you think i'm doing i'm your i'm your uh partner in crime in this uh in this endeavor but no i think so you know what's kind of funny and this might not make any sense but this is the way my brain looks at it like it's weird that she says that and then everybody's like oh gross but it's like we all do that and why is she gross because she said yeah we all want it done yeah we all do stuff like that but then she says it and we're like, what a yucky lady. But like behind closed doors, we're like, hell yeah. Is that so weird? Like how the psychology of it?

Like you can't advertise stuff, but we all know what's happening. Yeah. I mean, people may just not like it in their face. I think she loves it in her face. Is it kind of like, I don't know. It's like we all, like, I guess if you want to compare it to something, I guess it's kind of like the election. Like, we all know who we kind of are voting for,

but we all get mad at the ads that are, like, in our faces in, like, the middle of a baseball game. True. All right, that's fair. Like, I'll be radicalized during a Phillies game. Really? Like, I'll be like, Biden wants to take your teeth.

What's this, Mr. T? Biden was saying this. I don't know. Joe Biden wants to take your teeth. He doesn't want you to have any teeth anymore. Paid for by... Dr. Oz. Yeah, Dr. Oz.

Biden, Trump... Trump wants to take... Trump wants to put the Hawk 2 girl to death. He wants to see her go. He wants to deport the Hawk 2 girl back where she came from. It's like, I don't think he does. Shout out the Hawk 2 girl, man. For real. Shout out to the original Hawk 2 girl, Nancy Reagan.

For real? Oh, I have heard those rumors. That's tough. And Nancy got after it. Hey, folks, how are you? We do a podcast where we ask people what they do for a living. If you've got a second when you're done. Yeah. Nice, easy, two minutes.

Hell yeah, man. Thank you for joining us. What's up, dude? Matt, nice to meet you. I'm Knuckles Guy. First name Kyle, last name Knuckles Guy. That's right. What's your name? My name is Nolan. Sick. Yeah, like Nolan Ryan. And what do you do for a living? guy that's right what's your name my name is no no no one no one sick yeah like no one ryan yes

sir um and what do you do for a living i do door-to-door sales oh one of the largest uh home remodeling companies in the country this this week must have been hell it's a it's a different you gotta drink lots of water go to bed early you know just rise and shine were you doing any of that did you do that that at all? Oh, you got to. Yeah. You got to be every door. You got to be on your A game. You're getting that door slammed a lot.

Oh, man. A lot of no's, but it's all about the gun. What's your pitch? I don't know. It's proprietary. I don't know if I could reveal it right now. Oh, you have like a unique pitch to the company that you can't even share? There is a science to it.

What's the science? Well, you know, you're knocking on someone's door he's probably feeding their kids dinner and uh you know we're pitching them on getting a new roof and a lot of times you know you get a lot of no's but a couple yeses they ended up spending 40 50 000 from you know me knocking on their door to three four hours later five hours later they're opening the checkbook and you know know, a lot of people need the roof. Yeah. But, you know, there's a lot that goes into it, a lot of science behind it.

What's the science? Is it like, are you talking mostly about the utility of the product or are you offering like what it looks like in a real world scenario? Like, all right, obviously you need a good roof, but here's the reasons why you want to keep your family protected. But like, what's that sound like? A lot of sales is you're not buying the product you're buying the person so you want to build a relationship with someone you know you got to build trust you know how do you build trust

with someone in five minutes of me knocking on their door to having someone come two hours later to allowing them inside of their house and talk so you know you're doing a lot of just getting to know someone you know then they ended up telling you their phone number, their spouse's name. So you've just got to be personable, humanize yourself as quickly as possible. It's a tough gig, but if you're good at it, you make some good money. So this is a proprietary thing. You can't even share what the actual pitch is. My thought is you guys stage home invasions, and then you go and you get rid of the invaders and then at the end of it

you're like by the way i kind of noticed that the shingles up there look like shit did you guys ever i'm actually scoping out who's on vacation when they're leaving okay and i'm like yo bill this guy's leaving next week no you're thwarting the home invasion you're actually you're this you're the savior i I'm plotting. I'm figuring out when they're not home. And then thwarting it. And then, no, then we capitalize on it.

So you break in and you build them a roof. Yeah, you actually give them something. Yeah, a little B&E. They come back from vacation. By the way, you owe me 50 grand.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. TV's missing, but they got a new roof. That's right. It's a give and take. It's a bartering system. So how long have you done it for? Since February. Oh, so you just started. So very new at job okay uh-huh what's the day-to-day like uh so um yeah we do company does a really good job keeping everyone together i mean it could be a

mental grind yeah so team meets up at a wawa of course you know get our coffee as any high level operation begins. 100%. This is who we're going to attack today, okay? You're going to hit Canterbury Lane. I'm going to get. That's literally what happened. Get the maps.

I'll take Chestnut. Derek, you got Walnut. Who's getting Knott's? Who's getting Meaven's? Yeah, hit it there, you know, just shoot the shit for a little bit. Then you go out for a couple hours, get lunch. I mean, it's just, it's a grind i mean you hit you hit 100 houses in a day geez knock 100 times walking 10 plus miles so how do you stay dry out there how many sure how many shirts we

going through no you're not yeah you just gotta it's grueling yeah it's gotta be so you think that actually helps you because when you do knock on the door people might be a little more sympathetic for you so yeah 100 so you're not you do knock on the door, people might be a little more sympathetic for you? So, yeah, 100%. So you're not supposed to go in people's houses yet. So we don't want to go in because they feel like that might be the sales pitch there for the window. So we're waiting for our expert to come in. But a lot of people are like, oh, do you want water? If they ask for that, you always take the water.

You always go in. You have a little longer conversation and it kind of just breaks you know the walls down a little bit how do you piss so sitting down i have a sorry no no you sit down you're pissed most of the time yeah oh my god you wake up at seven in the morning you got pissed yeah i sit down when i pass there's nothing better yeah it's like it's you got to do it dude it's like leaning in the shower it's just it's just it's got small pleasures that he offers to us i think we have to make sitting sitting when you pee like more acceptable that's what we're running on that's our campaign it's a lesson here i think people do i might be

taking the toilet seat for granted most people don't have toilet seat the middle east it's just a hole in the ground that they piss in right have you Have you ever seen a Middle Eastern port-a-john? No. It's just a hole. There's no seat there. How many Middle Eastern port-a-johns have you seen? Yeah, what do you think? A couple.

A couple. Yeah? I've been overseas a couple times, but I think you're onto something. Maybe so. I mean, look, you know. I'm a man with an idea. He used to sell on the Taliban. This stuff is nothing.

Yeah, Abdul was like, hey, man, I need toilet seats out here. So wait, so how do you piss? So I have a cashmere jacket in my back seat. I just put that in between the two, and I got a cup back there. Oh, nice. Because the thing is, like, let's think about it. I have to get out of the community for five minutes, walk to my car, five-minute drive to Wawa, take the piss for five minutes, go to my car, drive back for five minutes.

I'm missing out 30 minutes. That's like 10 to 15 doors I'm missing out. I like that. So, I mean, it's all efficiency. It's hard work. It's efficiency. So, yeah, you got to minutes count. How many grind set Instagram accounts do you follow?

Yeah. So, I have my routine in the morning. get up get a little guy i mean hey have you knocked on doors i'm not you're right i mean i i have gotten so coming out of college i was tricked into a lot of interviews that were like sales interviews and you get there and it's like it's like comcast verizon selling like box cable boxes and stuff i i can't tell you i probably was on 10 to 15 different interviews before i was like all right stop falling for this trick yeah um but no so i've never knocked on doors before so you're a goggins guy goggins get you up in the morning who's gonna carry the roofs yeah so i i uh yeah right i gotta get to the roofs karen who's gonna carry who's

gonna carry the shingles so i you know go to the gym in the morning. You kind of get your head right. You got to be, you know, I mean, the job is like 90% mental. Yeah. I read my Bible every morning to make sure, you know, get my head right. Because at the end of the day, we're talking to, I try to humanize everyone I'm talking to. What's the verse that gets you fucking going? I mean, I talk to, I don't know. I don't really have a verse. No, like Thessalosians?

Who's your favorite disciple? I like Thessalothans. That's a tough one. Yeah, who's your favorite disciple? I'm reading through 1 John right now. Got it. 1 John's pretty good. Yeah, you get to 316 yet?

That's just John, John 316. 1 John is a different book in the Bible. Didn't you go to Catholic school, dude? Yeah. Oh, man. 12 years. I also took Spanish for 12 years. Look at me now.

True. Yeah. Well, I'm so curious. What was your life path to be sitting in a freaking park on a Sunday afternoon? We used to sell roofs and windows. What goes wrong? Yeah, true. A lot of things.

A lot of zigs and zags. Yeah, we used to sell roofs, and that obviously didn't work. And then we – no, I'm kidding. Then we went over to the Middle East. Yeah, we used to sell roofs, and that obviously didn't work. And then we – no, I'm kidding. Then we went over to the Middle East. Yeah. Tried to sell to the Taliban. Yeah, standing on – They didn't like the Port-A-Johns.

They didn't want those now. Yeah, I was in construction. It's nice. A lot of podcasts are just like three dudes, two dudes you don't know talking to each other. We like the idea of going and just talking to people. Yeah. I don't think there's enough stuff where it just highlights the regular people who are some of the more interesting people you can get. Yeah.

Do you guys ever talk about the Federal Reserve at all? Go ahead. What do you want to talk about the Federal Reserve? What's up with the Fed? What's wrong with the Fed? I mean, what's wrong? A lot's wrong with the Fed right now. I mean, have you ever heard of the book?

It's called The Creature of Jackal Island. No. Okay. It talks about the history of the banking system and the most consequential year in American history, 1913, when the Federal Reserve was created, the federal income tax was implemented. I think you've got to focus on that a little bit here. Let's hear more. What about, yeah, what was 1913? Yeah, so 1913 is when the Central Bank was created under Woodrow Wilson.

It was a part of a conspiracy, if you will, where there were a couple senators and a couple bankers. So the Rothschilds were represented. The Rockefellers were represented. There was a senator, I'm drawing a blank on his name. I think he was from New Jersey. But anyway, they met in Jekyll Island, where they discussed creating a central bank. It was not our first central bank in America. But ever since then, the citizens of this country have lost their sovereign ability to have control over their own currency. Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank. I don't have control over my own currency?

No, brother. They just print it out and you say, OK, I'll do whatever it takes. I'll knock on doors for that piece of paper they're printing on. So what do you recommend we do instead of that, dude? You seem pretty happy. Oh, yeah, yeah. We're doing good. We're doing good.

We're selling doors. We're doing good. Absolutely, of course. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we could talk about this for hours. No, no, I like it. I like it. Yeah, I mean, what was the – so they make the Federal Reserve.

There's got to be a reason or at least one that they can manufacture. This is actually turning into the podcast that we're not trying to set out to do. Three guys just talking. Unfortunately, here we are. So the Federal Reserve is a private banking system that lends money to our government, right? They set the interest rate. They set all the terms to loans. And they basically control our government, right?

The reason you can't buy a house right now is because the government or the federal reserve has their interest rate you know set at you know five six percent we we lend uh to four there's only four or five banks that are direct lenders from the federal reserve so it's like bank of america jp morgan um city there's like four or five banks and then they lend to uh you know smaller regional banks and then the money gets into our pocket that's why they ever hear Prime Prime lending what the prime rate is right now so the the Fed is saying five percent I can only borrow to buy a house or a mortgage at eight percent so they control everything yeah and you got to look into this group it's called the um oh my gosh the uh i can't believe i'm drawing a blank right now these are guys against the federal reserve i guess who created the federal reserve okay it's it's in

the england it's called the um i'll look it up here in a second i have an idea what you're talking about i do i remember there was some coercion with i didn didn't know about this bank. Yeah. It's a private – they call it the Federal Reserve as a kind of slight of hand to think that, hey, it's part of the federal government. But they're not part of the federal government. Nothing to do at all. It's called the Fabian Society. So just pop in my head. So the Fabian Society started in the 1960s. They're a British global socialist movement that basically their their logo is a wolf in

sheep's clothing so it's a wolf that has sheep and it's like this old picture and that's her logo and a turtle which symbolizes the slow movement through institutions to slowly take them over and there's a guy named Colonel House who was basically the right-hand man of Woodrow Wilson in the 1913 when the Federal Reserve turned over. Hold on, man. We're talking about serious shit here. Yeah. They were talking about the bank.

Got to look up what the philosophy and the ideals behind the Fabian Society and what their goals are. And it kind of came true. So their goal is to create a one world socialist government. And they use that through the banking system. They created the IMF, the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank back in the 40s. Jeez, this guy's gonna get us killed. I think he's gonna get us killed. Yeah, we have a red dot on your forehead. You know too much there.

It's all in this book, The Creature of Jekyll Island. Highly recommend to all your viewers to just understand what the hell is going on with the thing in their pocket and what they're working for. Awesome, man. Well, I appreciate you coming on and getting us deep platformed. Yeah. That's wonderful. Yeah, this is awesome. Who's your grind set guy right now?

Is it Goggins? Is it Andy Elliott? Is it 10XBoy? Cardone? Dude, I don't know. Just Peaky Blinders pictures in black and white? I listened to this 20 minute it's like a uh not a bible study in the i mean it sounds real cheesy right yeah but i think it's ai that does it i think i'm listening to a computer every morning that gets me hyped

and the bible verses get you hyped yeah it gets my mind right you know some people listen to Joey Rogan yeah no well I was gonna say Kanye Jay-Z Eminem yeah you listen to the

Lord and Savior Jesus Christ I try to I try to that's nice alright cool that's whatever you're into do you want to shout out to Biz if you want to just

provide yourself a little we will not do that today gotta give the opportunity at least yeah well cheers gentlemen sweet dude thank you so much man that was great nope okay no no hello oh I thought you were gonna kiss me alright We will not do that today. Got to get the opportunity at least. Yeah. Well, cheers, gentlemen. Sweet, dude. Thank you so much, man.

That was great. Nope. Okay. Oh, I thought you were going to kiss me. All right. I don't know what just happened there. I love learning new things, even if they're just batshit crazy. Like everything that guy said about the Fed could be totally false.

But you know what? I like to just be like, yes, sir, can I have another? Yeah, I'm right there with you. Although I have had some speculation about the Fed for a while. He talked with so much conviction that it was just like, holy shit, I almost bought a roof from that guy. I think his girlfriend's worst nightmare is him having four margaritas and then somebody asking about the Federal Reserve.

And she's like, oh, my God, we're going to be here for an hour. She probably wakes up at two in the morning and he's out there blacked out with his ninth rum and coke. And he's like, babe babe they're stealing money from us she's like you have to come to bed you got to work tomorrow you got to go door to door i love that guy that guy's the man i might actually buy that book you'll like it i'm on this weird book book craze where i have like i have like 10 books that are like in my in my queue right now and i can't even get through like one like i'm like i'm not i i think i'm trying, you know, when like you you meet a girl that you're like really into and she might be out of your league and you're like really doing anything to impress her.

So you just say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I'm doing that with myself right now. I'm like trying to impress myself by like listening to more books. Like I want to learn stuff like what the fuck? Like what do I care about Alexander the Great? Like I'm listening to a book on Alexander the Great. I've never thought about Alexander the Great once in my entire fucking life. Yeah, but that's kind of a beautiful concept.

I think that's just self-love. I think you're trying to impress yourself to be like, I'm capable of more. I think it's just me being sober. Yeah, true. I'm glad you're done with that. Thank God. I'm not done with it. You're done with it.

I was off the sauce for anyone that doesn't know. I don't know why we never talked about it on the podcast, but I was off the sauce for like, I thought I was off the sauce for like two months. It turns out I was off the sauce for 21 days. Yeah. It was the longest 21 days of my life the one thing they talked to you about is when you get sober or like getting sober i hate when people's like getting sober i just stopped drinking because i just i'm a pussy and can't deal with the hangovers yeah but one thing they don't tell you about it is like you have so much time on your hands that

you now have to fill yeah with other things when all your friends and all your family are social drinkers and stuff so like you go like like my buddies, like, what are you doing today? I'm like, I guess I'm just going to crush 12 hours of baseball. Yeah. Like I almost bought a beat machine, Matt. What do you mean? Like to make beats, to make beats? Oh, my God. Thank God, dude. Thank God, dude, because I would have been the beat machine. I would have beat your fucking ass if you would have bought that dude that is unbelievable why fucking run dmc or something like that like

grandmaster flash like a black suit and top hat what the fuck do i know about percussion dude you're the next john summit you should be you were probably moments away from becoming a dj and dude i thought it was the coolest thing in the world. It's like, I'm just going to learn something new. Yeah. No, just drink, dude. I know. Yeah. You really don't think about it that way, but the drinking is just a way to kill time and your own, like, it's so funny that it's like, I'm drinking and that's something that's enough to like, Oh, that person is doing something in reality. If I told you like, Oh, I'm playing rock, paper, scissors. And I'm doing that for four hours at a, you know, public location at a bar. People are like, what are you talking about?

That's true. You're just doing one thing, but for whatever reason, that one's cool. Hey, folks. Hey, guys. How are you? We do a podcast where we ask you what they do for a living. I just need three minutes. We have two seats, one seat.

That's perfect. Don't even sit down. You don't even have to sit down. You can just grab the mic. Yeah, take a seat. If you'd like to. Whatever makes you comfortable. You't even have to sit down. You can just grab the mic. Yeah, take a seat. If you'd like to. Whatever makes you comfortable. You don't have to sit down.

Yeah. Grab the mic. If you want to. If you want to, you can hear us. Yeah, whatever makes you comfy. Okay. What's your name? I'm Khalees.

Khalees. Yes. Isn't there a DJ Khaled? Oh, some say Khaled, some say Khalid. I thought it was from Game of Thrones. Khalid. Okay. Yeah, Khalisi from Game of Thrones.

Nice. I'm sure you never heard that one before. And what do you do for a living? I am a PhD student, so I do cancer genetics. Really? Cancer genetics? Mm-hmm. Where at?

Wow. At Drexel University. Sweet. Go Dragons. Yes. Go Dragons. Go Mario. How about that?

A cancer geneticist. That's got to be both a kind of rewarding and upsetting job where you're very getting into the weeds of cancer, but you are making things better. How do you juggle something like that? Wow. So I do think sometimes it is frustrating. It's like, why can't I find, you know, something that's just directly, you know, going to find this cure for cancer, even though people for hundreds of years haven't been able to.

But it is rewarding. So you just beat yourself up every single day. I know. That's so sad. That's so sad. One of the few meaningful jobs and you're beating yourself up don't worry miss it is hard einstein couldn't figure it out either damn so what are you doing like you like splitting genes and stuff like like how do i not get cancer um just from what i know just eating fruits and vegetables you know the stuff that you hear your doctor say just eating the best you can uh calorie restriction and exercising tell me the red meats okay tell me the red limits okay what's the limits zero yeah one bite one bite a day so I always

get curious about this like you know and this is coming from two very dumb guys. What is the big thing missing and why we can't find a cure? Is there like one singular thing? Like what is the crux of the issue of why we can't solve it? I think there's just some plant in the Amazon that we just haven't discovered yet. That's how I look at it. Might be a silly. Yeah. I think the main thing is that all cancer is different.

We kind of like to define cancer as just one disease. But breast cancer is different from prostate cancer is different. We kind of like to define cancer as just one disease, but breast cancer is different from prostate cancer, is different from esophageal cancer. They're all different, so it's kind of hard to just say, there's one cure for cancer. There's even vaccines for like cervical cancer, for example, the HPV vaccine is good for preventing that cancer.

I wanna be one of those. I got one, I got it back in the day. It's great. The one for the fellas. Great commercial. I got the one for the fellas too. Yeah. How close do you, do you think we'll find cancer?

Well, we found cancer. Um, do you think we'll find a cure for cancer in our lifetime? I think we're making really good progress, especially with, uh, the CRISPR,

um, identification of that type of gene editing system. I think we are getting very good at preventing cancer and treating it if it's caught very early on. Got it. So we're getting better at discovering it. We're getting better at treating it and okay. All right. I can live with that. Yeah. It's better than the first 30 years of my life that, you know, cancer was just running rabid. Yeah, it seems like it's less pervasive, but I wonder if it's just you feel that way because you're so used to hearing it

or if it seems like it's less, you know, taking a toll on people. But how long is that Uber? How long is what Uber? How long is that Uber coming? Oh, okay. She just got here actually just now. All right. Good luck. This was great. Yeah. Thank you so much for telling us about that. Don't beat yourself up. All right. You're doing a great job. Doing good stuff. Keep it up, please. We need you out there. Need you. This was great. Thank you so much for telling us about that. Don't beat yourself up. You're doing a great job.

Doing good stuff. Keep it up, please. We need you out there. Need you on the front lines. Thank you so much. You see Bryce Harper did it? Yeah, and then he lost the Hawk 2 game. Did he really? Can't lose the Hawk 2 game. Yeah, you kind of have to win that. He actually should have been on third, too.

I've been saying that for years. Who's on first? What is it? Him've been saying that for years who's on first uh who was it him he's on first who's on first how does the joke go well who's on first what's on second yes i don't know who's on third though but it wasn't brace harper one time uh a talent show when i was in middle school a kid like three grades younger than me i went up and we had to sing every year we had to sing i had to sing so much of my childhood i'm now realizing and uh he went on after and him and this other kid did that entire bit and it got a like standing applause it's that's a standing ovation it i got i was so angry i couldn't believe it i started shit talking him he was in third grade i was in sixth grade what'd you sing i was just like oh we uh did like hymns we were like the choir they said our grade was the best singing grade in my school so i was just like oh we uh did like hymns we were like the choir they said

our grade was the best singing grade in my school so we would just sing at every mass which was nice because you got to go to the elevated part of the church that was always fun going a different place that other kids couldn't go but uh yeah um what you sang hymns for a town show yeah they made us do it oh not even hymns though when we show? Yeah, they made us do it. Oh, not even hymns. When we did the talent show? No, not even the talent show. We did the Christmas show. And the dude who plays Wolverine, what's his name?

Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman is a big theater dork. Underratedly big theater dork. And he had a couple of, I guess, songs in a play that he wrote or that he starred in. And we would sing his songs. Les Mis? Well, it was before Les Mis. It was even earlier.

He's been a theater dork forever. And then, yeah, he was in Les Mis and we would just do Hugh Jackman songs at a Christmas. Imagine being a parent paying $8,000 a year to send your chubby kid to a Catholic school

and then you got to go watch him sing Hugh Jackman songs. I don't think I ever participated in a talent show. I was really petrified of public speaking. Really? You had no inkling to show off your stuff? No, because I had no talents. What do you

mean? I played sports. That actually would be really funny if like a talent show of just you shooting free throws. Honestly, the only thing that I ever thought about almost doing a talent show is you remember when that Nike commercial came out with all those guys doing the streetball moves? It was like a scary movie. Yeah, I actually thought I think we almost got a bunch of our guys together and did all those. That would have been.

That would have been sick. That would have been sick. How would you have captured the audio of the sneakers clicking? Probably wouldn't. It would have been one of the worst productions of all time. Literally. And it would have been terrible. It would have been me trying to do a crossover.

Yeah. And like some arm sleeve and probably some like back in like when I was eight years old, probably some regalia that would probably be offensive. A hundred percent. There's no doubt one of us would have done blackface. But blackface like wasn't a thing when we were eight years old. Yeah. That's the closest you get to blackface is wearing like a sweatband. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's that there's that one picture of that kid in a Sixers fan. He's an Allen Iverson fan and he's got got the whole Allen Iverson stuff down to the tattoos. Yes. No blackface.

Bacorn roast, tattoos, arm sleeve, Sixers jersey and everything. I'll put it in here. So he did black arms? But that would be me. No, no, no. He did, you know how he has all the tattoos on his arm and stuff? He literally did every single tattoo. The bulldog.

Oh, wow. The Chinese lettering. That's actually pretty sick. All that stuff, yeah. Oh, my God. That would have been great, dude. I can't believe you never did any talent tattoo. The bulldog. Oh, wow. The Chinese lettering. That's actually pretty sick. All that stuff, yeah. Oh my god, that would have been great, dude. I can't believe you never did any talent shows. No. I could totally see you out there belting. Hi, miss. How are you?

Hey. We do a podcast where we ask you what they do for a living. I'm really sweaty. Yeah, so are we. We're right there with you. Get in line. You came to the right podcast. We're all in it together. What's your first name? My name's Sarah. Sarah, nice to meet you. I'm Kyle. This is Matt. Nice to meet you. Hi, Kyle and Matt.

What do you do for a living? I am a pediatric speech therapist. Wow. So just focus solely on children. Right now. Got it. Oh, is there a job change in the future? You said right now, which is children.

They, yes, our field is a little bit flexible because we can work with pediatrics and like all the way through adults, geriatrics. Oh, so it's possible. What's the middle term for atrix? So you have your pediatrics and your geriatrics, but I've never heard of someone ever say something like, uh, we, I just call it the adult population. That's what I've heard. I don't actually know. Wow. I don't know if there is a guy question, but that's actually a actually a very good, I never thought about that before. Hmm. Sweet.

We'll have to circle back on that. Yeah. Put a pin in that one. Yeah. Put a pin in that one. Who do you prefer? Do you prefer the children or do you prefer the olds? Um, I like, uh, I'm going to be that person. I like both. Um, my background is with kids, so I really like the kids a lot, but I like the older population because that puts you in a hospital setting or something that's a little bit cooler, where you get to see cooler stuff. Yeah. What kind of cooler stuff?

So a reputation that speech therapists get is that we help people talk, right? We also do swallowing. Oh, wow. So someone might have like a stroke or something like that? Exactly. So it's speech and swallowing. So if you're more on the swallowing side, you can work in pediatrics, but a lot of us work with the adult and geriatric population, stroke victims, you know, brain injuries, all that kind of stuff. So you get to see kind of like cooler stuff. Wow. That's I never would have thought. I guess

it's a total oral kind of thing. So how do you coach? I guess for the most part, it's people who have lost the ability to swallow or something's happened. How do you coach that back and like the choking and stuff like that? Like how do you navigate dealing with something like that? That seems very stressful. Yeah. There's a lot of different things that you can do. A lot of, um, my experience is you diet changes, which is like, uh, not as fun for people. Cause who likes to do that? Um, but there are certain exercises that you can do to like help your muscles, uh, like retrain them to swallow properly, which is, there's a lot of that goes, there's a lot of things that go into swallowing.

People don't really think about it. This is a dumb guy question. I did not know there were, there were muscles in the neck. What? Yeah. I don't know if I can co-sign that one. I thought they were like veins. Like here, look at me. Like I thought they were like veins. Like here, look at me.

I thought they were like veins. There's a lot. That one's, that's called the platysma, if you're interested what you're doing right now. Got it. This is the platysma. What do they do? Do they connect to the brain or where do they go? I guess they all connect to the brain for the most part.

The nerves connect to the brain, sure. And then they tell the muscles what to do. But what you're really looking at, it's less the neck and it's more the like pharynx got it uh like your um your trachea and your um esophagus esophagus thank you yeah yeah um and that's all connected and it's there's a lot that goes into it it's pretty wild yeah do you guys i mean i guess you're trying to figure out ways to better help somebody speak and swallow and do things like that. Do you study the greats like a Joey Chestnut, like a hot dog eater? Do you ever look at like how the anatomy of his throat works? You got I mean, you got to study the greats. I would imagine we haven't actually.

That is very funny. So I'll add something here. El Wingador, who is a famous wing bowl champion here in Philadelphia. He used to put together a bunch of Tootsie Rolls into a ball, and he used to massage his neck, and he would just go back and forth with a giant Tootsie Roll ball to open up his esophagus to be able to eat more chicken wings. Have you thought about that practice? Is this clinical?

I mean, they're muscles, so I imagine you could kind of train them up to do a lot of different stuff i mean when you think about having a baby like what your vagina does that kind of stuff i feel like it's sort of similar true yeah it makes sense um but yeah i've have heard that they do a lot of like tootsie roll kind of stuff to like uh beef up their yeah he'll swallow it and then he'll like barf it back up and that's how he'll holy crap i have never i don't want to ever see a video of that ever platosis platisma we're in a state of platosis right now okay that's it you have shitty platisma you're out of your

mind what do you um so how does your how does your job differ with um with the youngs um i'm i'm assuming that you're dealing with more children that are having a hard time speaking verbalization. Yeah. Yeah. Kids range quite a bit. I have a lot of like typically developing kids that are just late talkers. And there's a lot of research that shows if you're late talker, it correlates to how you'll do in school, how you'll do with reading, which then correlates to higher education issues. And so I work in early intervention right now, which is birth to five years old. Okay. So everything from like typically developing kids.

And then I work with a lot of autistic kids. Okay. So it's less trying to get them to speak and just trying to find a way for them to communicate because some of them are not verbal will never be verbal choose not to be verbal um so we use a lot of like devices to help them talk um choice boards to help them talk sign language um yeah so i mean that's pretty interesting because i you hear a lot about like i don't know if it's baseless or not but like there's an uptick in autism in younger kids. Do you see any of that? Do you notice there's a higher frequency or is that just kind of like an unfounded thing that's out in the zeitgeist now? I don't know how much I can speak on that because I haven't read a ton of research on it.

We could just be diagnosing it more, too, because I feel like when we were younger. That's what it seems like. Yeah. We weren't like allowed to say that people were on the spectrum like we were just like this guy's just quiet yeah right i have my i have my timmy's just quiet yeah i have my own thoughts about how what's going on with the autism spectrum now i think a lot of people you think they're either diagnosing themselves misdiagnosing a little bit being like it feels a little bit like a fad recently to be like oh that's just that's just autism and yes like you're not you're not wrong like a lot of

people i don't know how old you guys are i'm 32 but 31 yeah so a lot of people like our age and a little bit older are kind of it's like a tiktok thing i don't know yes it's like john just a little weird man let him go let him live right so it could be either thing who knows but um he picks his nose who cares it is yeah i've noticed that i feel like we're getting more autistic people and less people who sit at the peanut butter uh table with allergies i have not i have not the peanut butter table and lunch used to be like the biggest thing in the world like if you went it was like dropping a nuke if like you uh if you went anywhere with a rich cracker near the table like wait did you have a peanut butter table yeah i don't know if we had school kids oh you just let it out in the wild yeah we were a public school kid you

mixed the peanut butter allergies with the normies i don't know i i can't remember there being a peanut butter table i just you guys were playing with dynamite back then. That's terrifying. We put the peanut butter kids in their own section. They would sit by themselves. I mean, it makes sense, but that is actually really hilarious. I didn't know that was a thing. The kids that drove in high school, they had to park a certain place, and those other kids used to park.

Oh, my God. I love the peanut butter kids because, actually, this relates back to you. I went to speech class for my first, first grade, second grade, third grade. For what? Do you remember? Yeah. My mom said that I talked like I had a mouthful of marbles and I had no idea what that meant until she was like, yeah, you mumble. I had no idea what you were saying. Shout out to you though, man, because you talk really well right now. Oh, well, thank you. I appreciate it. But, uh, yeah, speech. I would, I'd say, well, that was where I would be. That was one of the ones where I'd be in there. And there was kids that I think were stricken with more aggressive speech things.

So I did feel like I was kind of sitting in with some people that I was like, you guys are worse off than me. I don't know what's happening. But not in a bad way, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not out of their own volition. What are some of the exercises you remember? They would just have us sit there and just like the kind of – I don't think it was effective at all, but you just go like – I remember that was a big thing we'd do is go – which I don't think that ever did anything at all, but we did a lot of that. And, uh, the,

the one thing I go back to is there was one kid in my class that would tell me that his brother was dressing up as a Gullah for, uh, Halloween. Okay. And I was like, they made us talk. They'd make two kids with speech disabilities, speak to each other. And then some lady would watch, she was probably hung over from the night before at a wine night. And she would, you know, we would just, uh, he told me that he was going to be a gulla. I'm going to be a gulla. I'm going to be a gulla. Battling like two wizards.

I had no idea what he was saying. And eventually he was like, he's going to wear a skirt. He's going to wear like long hair. And I was like, oh, a girl. And then I was like, that's when I figured out we were on two different planet fields. He was just from New England. Maybe so. Yeah.

Maybe so. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Sorry for the long tail. I just had to tell somebody else in the speech industry. Do you agree that Philadelphia has the eighth sexiest dialect in the entire country? Oh, sexiest. Eighth. Yeah, we were eighth about I think back in like 2020.

I do know any of the ones that come before us. I could look it up if you if you want to just kind of talk while I do it. They might, I would imagine. I think it was like French, Italian, Spanish, like all the love languages. Oh. And then there's just us just chilling at 8. No fucking way.

Wait, globally? We were 8th. Yeah. That is un... Let me look it up. That, it can't be right. Yes, it can. I think we were 8th in the country, and I didn't know that we had eight dialects in the country.

Yeah, sorry. I said country. It's like the entire place doesn't speak English. Eighth globally. That's something to be proud of. There's no way it's right. A-sexiest. A-sexiest.

I'm telling you, CBS did it. NBC, y'all wrote an article? What? Yeah, a new survey. I wouldn't rate this very high. No, certainly not. This is from Fox 29, local to Philadelphia. A new survey, Big 7 Travel, Philadelphia, local to Philadelphia. A new survey.

Big seven travel. Philadelphia accent ranked one of the sexiest in America. A new survey by big seven travel ranks Philadelphia accent as the asexiest accent in America. It was country. So here's the full list. So Long Island came in at 50th. We'll go down to the first. First was Texan.

Second was Bostonian. What? Third was New York. Fourth was Mainer, which I do have some cousins in Maine. They talk really funny, and I do, and I always find myself really tough not to jump their bones. Sure. Fifth was Chicago, which I'm trying to even think of. That's crazy.

Sixth was Mississippi, which I think they're just really, you know, if you're having Texan number one, you're having Mississippi at six. Can we just envelope the Southerners? Southern accent. Yeah, Southern southern's like really popular right isn't that i think we're actually talking about country country aesthetic that like people are like really getting into their like country aesthetic yeah seventh is hawaiian uh so i guess polynesian that's number one and uh eighth is philadelphia so we beat out um st louis california oh 11th is northwestern like how can you have texan and mississippi and

then have northwestern isn't that maine no no wait no north was like seattle yes you're exactly right but yeah we're eighth this was back in um may 15th 2019 that is so funny i would not put us i would really i would think we were like pretty low i would too because we get made fun of a lot for our like delco yeah people people they roast the ones they love i guess i know but if you think about just imagine if hawk 2 girl had a delco accent who's that you don't know hawk 2 really oh yes yes i do know who that is yeah they all fucking spit on that thing and and that's what you got to do. Yeah, they like that. That's what they like. Gay birds. Hawk toad goat birds.

Oh, my God. Well, you learned something new every day. That's where we get our reputation from. You didn't think you were going to walk into this today, did you, when you were coming up? No, I did not. No. Wow. Anything else we should know about speech pathology and your practice at large?

Anything that people should do to take precaution yeah any advanced stuff um speech is really important especially for young kids we don't just play with kids that's a reputation that's a reputation we get that it's just that all we do is play around with kids we do actual therapy things get done got it um if you have ever have any concerns about your young children, get them, get them evaluated, get them tested and listen to your speech therapist, do what they tell you to do. Now, do you ever have people come back with receipts and they're like, it works, but he won't shut the fuck up now. Absolutely. Can you take the parts back out? Yeah. It's a lot of times, um, when we have kids for the first, you you know we meet kids and they're brand new the

first like four or five sessions the parents will come back and they'll be like oh they're they're not they won't stop doing the one activity oh really in sessions they're they won't stop doing it at home they love yeah all the time oh wow i could totally see that yeah just one car ride to wildwood and they hear the same thing for an hour and a half. I can imagine. It's like, okay, it's fun because they, when you do like one-on-one sessions with kids, they get all of your time for that, like 30, 45 hour, whatever you're doing. And I think that's really unusual for kids because parents are running around doing a bunch of shit. Maybe they have other kids, whatever, whatever. So you, they get a hundred percent of your attention and you're just there to play with them, but you don't just play with them but to them

it seems like you're just playing with them thank you i want to let the haters know that we just don't play with them all right we do real work here correct we do do real work absolutely well thank you so much for coming on this is great yeah it's nice to meet you guys oh very cool that adds a layer to the singing in front of my dad i just figured out how to talk and i started singing in front of him dude dude please no wonder your how to talk, and I started singing in front of him. I was like, dude, please stop. No wonder your dad hated it. I would have hated it, too. I was like, geez.

You asked a really good question about, like, hey, I would have taken you back to the speech therapy woman and been like, fix him. It's too much. He's singing in front of me now. Yes, it's over the top, which I think of Bo's parents. I mean, at the minute, it's got to be just so frustrating and stressful that your kid's not speaking. But then you listen to kids speak, and you're like, oh, my God.

Oh, no. Where's the off button on this thing oh my god that's crazy that's very interesting yeah i uh i don't know if i could ever have been uh you had no speech anything speech there i used to go to a trailer that's what they did they'd send us we go to a trailer man dude yeah out in the parking lot and it'd be me and these two other kids. One girl, one boy, the one who sent you away. Yeah. That's why I was trying to get to the larger point that it was me and the peanut butter kids. We're the two isolated groups. We put the peanut butter kids in camps, basically. It was bad, dude.

Just written in peanut butter over the camp, work will set you free. That's what it said in our books. We treated the peanut butter kids like like they were like lepers yeah because they kind of were dude yeah dude like like some of the popular kids like they had nut allergies like and like lunch was the was the best part of the day and then it would be like nah dude sorry you know jimmy has you know a kind bar yeah that you can't be around so uh you're gonna to have to go over to a table all the way on the other side of the cafeteria

and everyone's going to poke fun at you and laugh at you because you can't ingest tree nuts. And the alternatives were, the one kid in my class who had the nut allergy, his mom would pack him potato bread and fluff sandwiches. Oh my god, fluff without the peanut butter? Just straight fluff.

A marshmallow potato bread sandwich. I like jelly, but jelly doesn't go well unless you've got peanut butter in it. Jelly doesn't belong with anything other than peanut butter. Yeah, 100%. The contextualization of it. Now I'm just, the sliminess of it. If you're British out there with your various jams, stay home, dude. Don't make us take the country a second time. Dude, peanut butter, man. Not having peanut butter.

Not being able to enjoy the delicacy of peanut butter and all its amazing traits and just how much of a universal food it is like so many things have peanuts in it yeah or nuts in general that's i mean i'm not a big peanut butter guy myself not anymore i think eating peanut butter sandwiches after a certain age is a little weird it's pretty upsetting yeah me and my dad not too long ago ate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches together and uh it felt like midway through we were both like this is not what we're supposed to be doing right now yeah when i was really poor uh when i was grinding the content uh the content space yeah i would have peanut butter jelly and banana sandwiches every single day oh well that's phenomenal the best that is truly the like that's

that's what i'm saying peanut butter and jelly jelly needs one another. When you're 29 years old, it's not phenomenal. It's sad. It's a little sad. Eating a peanut butter, jelly, and banana sandwich on your couch, your AC is broken, so you're sticking to your leather couch right now. Every time that you are literally picking up your sandwich, like, you're like, coming off the leather couch. Yeah, it's not fun, dude.

When you're on the brink of your life falling apart and you're like, like, coming off the leather cap. Yeah, it's not fun, dude. When you're on the brink of your life falling apart and you can't get the peanut butter off the roof of your mouth, that would send me. 100%.

Yeah. Yeah. Did you really? You have to keep it in a pally? That was me. Vito's got a notebook with just tally marks.

Did you hear about that Springfield Little League? I keep seeing posts about it directed to what is happening. Are you going to fight a little kid? I get like small inklings of information

where I'm worried that you're going to fist fight a child. I guess this is my real job overlapping with this podcast now. There was a Springfield Monco, not Springfield Delco. There was like this little league where this parent complained about the scheduling

because apparently they wanted to shorten the season so the travel baseball team, the All-Stars, could start their tournaments and stuff. So they weren't going to have playoffs, which I think is very un-American to not have playoffs. I don't care if you're four years old in T-Bowl or you're 45 playing beer league softball. Give me playoffs. If I'm playing somethingball give me playoffs if i'm playing something give me playoffs um so the one guy that was complaining that the season was going to be shortened and so one of the board members on the springfield little league bought like a

flyover plane and flew a banner plane saying the guy's name over a little league game in the middle of a little league game spent like eleven hundred dollars on that like it's like i hate parents suck that is next level that's not even a normal like you hear all the parents stories at sports stuff that's not even in the same vein that's an insane person exactly like that the person should not be around children and i actually do think they named the guy recently and i think he's like banned from the board and banned from the little league and stuff i could be wrong but i i just turned to my fiance and i go if you're ever if we're ever pta parents yeah put a bullet in me man like i was watching like i got so deep into it that like we like i don't know if anyone you know might know me from crossing broad and stuff like that's my job it's a it's a local

philly sports website and stuff i wrote about it and everything the guy the guy whose name was in on the plane contacted me because i made fun of his kid for sucking because i was like this is okay because this is obviously that's what i've been saying yeah this is obviously a kid because you just immediately assume that this is a parent who's mad that their child sucks at baseball yeah and didn't make the all-star team turns out the kids on the all-star team this guy was just so angry about it that he went to the board and there's some other stuff that apparently he went all the way up to williamsport bypass all the stuff there's also some stuff that he's just been a problem and everything i'm all getting this information secondhand right but in the article that i wrote half of it was like you know this

kid fucking sucks so maybe more snitch maybe less snitching and more playing catch with the boy out front i went i ethered this 10 year old kid yeah and it was only two lines i think but like my job is like we we we've read dick jokes for a living yeah it's like it's like irreverent sports it's not everything we say is not like i don't mean half of it sure um we're not you know we're wood and bernstein discussing you know fucking the jfk assassination we're talking about 10 year old kids what did the dad say was he like pretty irate or was he kind of like because it's actually way more of a pussy move to defend your kid for being good it is you you should you should let your kids abilities talk themselves he's got to send you like his huddle highlight tape 100 i 100 agree i should have you should

have linked me like highlights of your of your child yes but it was funny because he emailed me and he goes um he wanted a retraction he accused me of libel which is insane um and then he was like my kid does not suck and And he underlined does not. That's the worst. He smacks the crap out of the ball for extra. I'm going to get the email. I want to hear it kind of verbatim. I can't believe this happened, dude.

This guy, by the way, all the times where you get hammered with your significant other and then you start talking about people who have wronged you and you're like, you know what? I want to say something to him next time I see him and she's like yeah go for it and then eventually you wake up the next day she's like make sure you don't say anything that guy was like i'm gonna fly fucking plane over top of the kids game she's like fly from plane booked it that night i love that so mr pagan someone forwarded me your blog post i'm not going to get into all the details with this whole ridiculous situation but my son underline not suck. Underline does play on one of the travel teams as well as on the Springfield Little League District Tournament team

where he plays first and third base when not pitching or hitting the snot out of the ball for extra bases. Oh, dear God, Apoph, dude. It's, I mean, this is a... That's a long email. 12.23 p.m. on a Wednesday, a guy at his job. Oh, my God. He just took his lunch break.

He took his lunch break. I literally ruined this guy's lunch break. This guy's sitting in a Chipotle off their Wi-Fi trying to get back at you. Sincerely, Zach, last name, even though it's public information, but I won't say it. And he says yes. Yeah. In parentheses, yes, Zach. Z-A-K is how I actually spell it.

End parenthesis. Dude. These are real human beings walking among us. I think those people, their life has gotten so far out of their own control that any semblance of it that they can grab, they're full force. So they're like, look, I can't combat the fact that my mother-in-law hates me but i can email this blogger and say don't make fun of my kid true you know and listen like if it was my kid would i've reached out to me probably i don't know i'm not in that situation i mean if i like the thing the thing is and i think where people would be like well you're kind of an asshole kyle

and i don't disagree but it was like five paragraphs of a of a story of a blog and there was like a little two to three sentence a couple of jokes i threw in there about your shitty kid and now you and how you raise them in a lebron household and not a magic and they're not a michael jordan house oh my god and he oh he also because because i replied to the guy because i said that line i said mj or lebron is all i replied back to him did he answer that and he said dude mj all day oh wow my children have multiple posters of mj are you just gonna become friends with this guy he actually kind of turned me in the in the end um that is one of the most i mean honestly if you would have written about me in a blog post and my dad saw it he'd be like he's also gay too like my dad wouldn't be there to offend me at all dude let me tell you

about the time he sang to me when i was nine years old when he was nine years old and it was good and i just don't have an ear for music geez man i mean i'm glad i got the background on that because i've been getting it second hand and just kind of like parsing through stuff that is somehow crazier than i anticipated it no i don't want to look your boy's dead he's not his career is over by the way boy, he's fine. I jumped off the ship. I literally am with the women and child in the Atlantic Ocean right now. And the Titanic is sinking.

There's a huge spider on you. Oh, God. Did you get me? That's true friendship. That's very nice. Thank you. But no. Well, then fine.

Have fun swimming the shores, dude. I'm on an island. I'm on Drake's island, coincidentally the same as Epstein's. And I think that anybody who's doing this BS support of Kendrick Lamar, look, dude, you're the same person who goes to a Barnes & Noble with a book you've never read and you leave it open

and you stare at the same page for two hours hoping that somebody walks into you and says, well, this guy's really thoughtful and intellectual. That's you, dude. Stop making it up. Listen to cool music. Listen to Drake. He's cool and hot and he plays basketball. Kendrick, tiny. Anyway. So you just so you've just reverted to like full bore Drake like you were like I came I came in on the on the Drake ship. I'm leaving on the Drake ship. Yeah, I've dug my heels in even more because I went I entered this beautiful period of my life where I just didn't care. I used to be one of

those guys who had hardline stances on just about everything. And I had about a two year period of not caring. Kendrick has brought me, brought me right back to just like, you're faking it. You don't actually like them. Nobody can listen to this music. The voices he does are kind of annoying. I'm saying it, dude. Okay. No, I, I don't disagree with you on the terms of like I would rather listen to Drizzy over listening to Kendrick Lamar and I do think the Kendrick Lamar love is a little overblown yeah because again we talked about this before um you can just say anything on the internet and people will just run with it like I'm gonna need some proof from one of them yes someone's gonna have to someone's gonna have to show some work I think yeah that's

what it really should be I mean unfortunately it's got to be like that uh that movie the social network it's got the underlying plot has to be a court case i need subtext of people proving things during the entire beef where we listen to the song and then like at the bottom like a tiktok video where there's another video playing i want to see a court case going on and so a lawyer being like he did do this this did happen that's how we need rap piece we need substantiated rap piece drake's gonna have to shoot him did you see that like to get it back i hear your court case i raise you a shooting no i think he's got he's got to do something he just keeps doing the worst responses though well kendrick and veto shaking his head over there i love it i love that guy veto of course

loves kendrick dude yeah veto can't write in cursive well this is the thing this is this is the thing about about the whole uh what i say he's going to shoot him is because apparently kendrick had to heighten his security when he was shooting a music video in compton and like you know kendrick's from there he why does he have to shoot why does he have to uh heighten security yeah. I think he's scared that Jersey's going to retaliate. This actually might be good for Drake in the end. Like, street cred. Killing Kendrick.

It's all about... Yeah, dude, Bill O'Reilly might write a book about it. Killing Kendrick. He thinks so. Fuck it, we'll do it live. Bill O'Reilly might have his full circle moment where he's just getting shouted at by camera and saying, you mad? Bill O'Reilly. And then he comes moment where he's just getting shouted at by camera and saying, you mad.

Bill O'Reilly. And then he comes back and writes a New York Times bestseller called Killing Kendrick. That could be the new red pill. Tucker Carlson has now become likable. Bill O'Reilly gets street cred. He's out there sitting there with a do-rag on and baggy jean shorts. He's literally at the Compton Swap just interviewing people who knew Kendrick Lamar for his book. Yeah.

He's the Nardwar of the hood. Oh my God. Wow, that's so funny. Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I don't know what he's got to do, but he's got my full support and I just,

I'll always stand by the faux intellectualism. Intellectualism? I do want to say, and I'd like to be on the right side of history, like Drake came back from getting shot in the back

and in a wheelchair, okay? So he can come back from a lot of things. Yeah, dude. And I actually, I'm not abandoning ship. I'm in the boat. I'm in the boat with the women and child and I'm rowing back and forth a wheelchair, okay? So he can come back from a lot of things. And I actually, I'm not abandoning ship. I'm in the boat. I'm in the boat with the women and child.

I'm rowing back and forth. We don't want you. But if they plug the leak, I'm back in. Hey, folks, how are you? Hey, guys. We do a podcast where we ask you what they do for a living. I only need three minutes. Two minutes, tops.

It's fun. Talk about your job for a little bit. I mean, you don't have to just turn your back. And then you're not even that far away and you're laughing at us. Just so you listeners know, this is what we do, guys. We say, hey, please. There's no doubt that one of them know me. And they've seen my shit and they're just like, I'm not going anywhere.

I actually think those are the three few people that have never seen you. Do you think any of those do? Usually that wouldn't be my demo. But I would not be surprised. I mean, three Phillies fans. They're probably pro-Bogo Knight. I think they're the few, the proud, that we don't know Kyle Pagan. I think those are the only ones that don't know you.

I would disagree. Because people hate me that they know me just as much as they like me. Oh, yeah. I actually that actually really made me angry. They just really blew us off. Yeah, that was like it felt like we were like the people at the mall who were like, you want to try this? Yeah. All we did was ask.

We don't even really want you on here. We just have to get like six guests. You're really just filling time. Like we came up with a fucking dumb idea like three months ago. We have to pursue it. We have to release a podcast on Wednesday. It's kind of contractually obligated

now that we have Thrive Flower. Now that we have a sponsor, it's contractually obligated that we have to unless they're going to take us to court. Yes. I mean, the pod rules, we love having guests on, but if you're going to be mean to us, that's going to be my reaction every time.

If you do come on, you're the most interesting person I've ever met. If you blow us off, it's like, I don't even fucking care about this stuff, dude. I just saw Red. Do you want me to become radicalized? Don't ignore me. Ignore me when I ask a question. I will. Yeah, I think that's how people become radicalized.

They feel ignored. You actually just experienced. Dude. Yeah. I'm writing my own mind conf when I get home. I'm writing my, what was the thing that Ted, the guy who the Oklahoma City bombing, he had his own. What's it called?

A manifesto? Manifesto. I am pouring out a 100-page manifesto when I get home. My struggle. Kyle Pagan's struggle. Sometimes people don't look at me. So now I'm going to take it out on others. Yeah. Wow, that's crazy.

Obviously, that doesn't show a strong growth that I just got weaponized by those three people ignoring me. But you know what? No, I'm on your side. I think that was pretty infuriating. You've got to have some values. Yeah, I hear you. I've got no bones about that.

I might root for the Phillies tomorrow. Root against them. Just out of anger? Since they had those three Phillies jerseys. Oh might root for the Phillies tomorrow. Root against them. Just out of anger? Since they had those three Phillies jerseys. Oh, true. You're totally turned. You don't even like what they represent. I'm trying to think.

I don't even know who to play. Honestly, I'll be really annoyed if the Phillies lose the World Series, but I'll be really happy knowing that those three people are miserable. Yeah, but they probably don't even like the Phillies. They didn't look like actual sports fans. I'm not adding to that. I'm not giving any more context. What do I know?

I am right, though. That guy had a really cool mustache. Yeah, he did. God, that drives me nuts. I technically have a mustache right now. Nobody even knows. Honestly, no, fuck that guy's mustache. It was actually not even curled that well.

He was trying to go for a little Grover Cleveland Alexander, like a little tie a damsel in distress to a train track no dude a little nigel thornberry that thing didn't even yes that's actually perfect yeah nigel thornberry mustache and guess what it didn't even connect yeah so if you're listening to this dude frig you to heck can't even grow fucking full mustache i think we're about to get rained on, so let's close this up. That's the podcast for today. We really appreciate everybody who's stuck around. The blue collar babies.

The middle class mommers. The white collar. That was a good one. The white collar. Thanks, man. The white collar. Criminals. Criminals. That was good. That's a little like ESPN Sports. That's a good one. I like that. We should put that

into the rotation. Oh, shit. The Federal Reserve helicopter's here. Yeah, so hey, if you like this and you want some sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet,

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