Men At Work Podcast - Interviewing Union Laborers at the Jersey Shore!

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

Kyle and Matt head down to the Jersey Shore on the Wildwood Boardwalk in a special Memorial Day Weekend episode. First, each guy creates a custom shirt from one of the famous shirt stores on the boardwalk the other has to wear for the entire podcast. Then they talk to a Wawa employee, a union carpenter who describes what falling off a building is like, a builder who designed an Eagles legend's closet, a retired banker who fired plenty of people, two servers that have their five year plan together built out, a plumber who tells us about the craziest things he's found in toilets, a consultant and social worker who moonlight as influencers, and a card counter turned blackjack dealer. Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ Follow Kyle: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb Follow Vito: https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en

Do you have to tell the people at the house, like, what you pulled out when you pulled out? Yeah. Do you ever get, like, a wife who didn't know about something? Well, we pulled some condoms out of a drain line, and she said, you know, they don't use condoms. Oh, no. That was a little awkward. Was she pissed when you told her? Yeah, yeah, she wasn't. She wasn't happy.

Was that the first marriage you've ruined? Three, two, one. Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work. We are down the shore, down the Jersey Shore here at the Wild Wildwood Days. Oh, those Wild Wildwood Days. This is Men at Work. I am Kyle Pagan. Next to me, as always, is Matt Peoples.

We have Cheeto1 behind the cameras. Looking. Smacking. Dazzling. Dacking. Ooh, God. Looks good. He does look good.

I wish you guys could see the man real quick. He looks like he would sell me the worst insurance plan of all time. But I love him. He sells it out of a van. It's not even a tangible thing to sell. Why do you have a... He wasn't even late today, which is shocking. Pretty impressive.

I'm still shocked by that. He was a... Our first tram car break. Look at this, baby. Listen to this. Listen to this, guys. This is sounds of wildwood. Give us one, will you?

Come on, give us one. Watch the tram car. Okay. I can tram car. Okay. I can see that. I can totally see that. Are you in charge of the Watch the Tram Car? He is. He's a little stingy with them.

Yeah, he big-leagued us. He kind of big-leagued us. He waved us off, dude. He smiled and waved us. Yeah. The princess that I am. So, yeah, we're down here in Wildwood. If you're

if you're unfamiliar i don't know how many people watch us that aren't from the kind of northeast area i would say probably one or two thank you to you people uh the best in the business the blue collar babies man every time the middle class and our favorite some of our favorites the white collar criminals you move that money, baby. Come on, baby. Look at the page. We need you guys. Buy it.

Yeah, and if you're in the 1% listening to this podcast, as always, man, what are you doing, dude? Ten episodes in. You haven't started to invest yet? What's going on? What else do we have to do? We just came off our most viewed, because I guess we're on YouTube exclusively, our most viewed episode of all time. Shout out to John by Sales by Helen. Shout out to Eileen.

Shout out to that old lady who came on, didn't want to be filmed but still sat down and talked to us for about 15 minutes. Yeah, that doctor

who shall not be named. She had a brief debut and then a cease and desist email. You dastardly fella. I can't get over that. You dastardly fella. We can't let that

happen again. Dude, you just gonna let bikers roll? Yo, don't, I'll bike. Dude, put some spike tacks down and let that happen again. Dude, you're just going to let bikers roll? Yeah, don't. I'll bike. Never mind. Dude, put some spike tacks down and let's get going, all right? Cheetah won.

Good boy. He's the best. I love this kid. He's a good boy, dude. So, yeah, so we're here at the Wildwood Boardwalk. And one thing, if you know about the Wildwood Boardwalk and you know about Wildwood in general, this is the cornerstone of America. This is the backbone of America.

This is where your union people come down, your blue-collar babies. I feel like we're going to talk to a lot of blue-collar babies. If we were in Avalon, if we were in Ocean City, if we were in Stone Harbor, we would talk to a lot of white-collar criminals. The WCCs, yeah. A lot of one-percenters and stuff. We like to hear from the blue-collar boys. They're more our folks, dude.

They're more the people we can relate to. They're union boys. I love to hear about the fight stories. I mean, I like to hear some white. If we can get a white-collar criminal to come on and just blatantly tell us he's broken the law and the SEC can't stop him, I would like to hear that. Get him to move to the Ozarks to save his family because they're being chased by the cartel. Yeah, the family that doesn't talk to him anymore.

I would like to get one of those, the union version of that guy we had on. But you know what else the Boardwalk is known for? T-shirts. They are. Boardwalk T-shirts are some of the greatest things in the world. I love the T-shirt shops because they are the most bipartisan people in the world. You have a lock-em-up Trump shirt. You have a Biden's got Alzheimer's, he can't run this country shirt.

It's awesome. They don't choose any sides here at the boardwalk t-shirt shops in wildwood it's the most open place it's the symbol of america anybody who wants one can walk in and get whatever they please and that's that's exactly what we did a little bit earlier there didn't we dude yeah we did and uh we will have to wear these cheeto you're killing me he's tying a knot dude he's doing he's got to practice his boy scout knots or else he's not himself what kind of knot you tying over there cheeto is that button hook yeah he's tying a knot, dude. He's doing it. He's got to practice his Boy Scout knots or else he's not himself. What kind of knot are you tying over there, Cheeto? Is that a button hook?

Yeah, he's tying a knot stopping people from running in front of the thing. Is that a Windsor? Anyway, so we are going to wear these for the rest of the podcast. We each went out and got a customized shirt from one of the Boardwalk T-shirt spots because that's what Wildwood is all about. I'm going to go first. Okay. All right. Let her rip. And I think I was mean because it's like 86 degrees out all about. I'm going to go first. Okay. All right. Let her rip. And I think I was mean because it's

like 86 degrees out right now. Oh my god. And I was given the option of going with a t-shirt or going with a sweatshirt and I went with the sweatshirt option. So if Matty has a heat stroke on the podcast, you know why. Here you go, brother. Okay. Damn, that thing is fucking heavy.

Show the camera. He's not wrong, dude. I was like, I want to get something that I really think, like, like Matt. Yeah, right there. Yeah, yeah, you can get it down. Yeah, you can get it down the, down there. This is his, though. This is a one of one.

It's a one of one. It's just for me, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, man. Can't all be that lucky to wear this. But hey, if you want to get a custom one right down there, they love doing this kind of shit. Yeah, hold it up again.

Yeah, dude. Get eyes on this. This is a family show. He flashed right to his buddy. I'm right there with you, dude. Yeah. Text me. Or, you know, whatever.

Oh, my God. How are you doing, sir? Jesus Christ, dude. What is this? I went not as... whatever. Oh, my God. How are you doing, sir? Jesus Christ, dude. What is this? I went not as... All right. You know what? I'm actually pretty excited about mine

because I did the exact opposite of this. Really? Well, I'm a good friend. I didn't want you to die of a heat stroke. There you go. Wow. You went t-shirt option? Did you go crop top?

Did I ever, dude? Dude, I am not... Now, this is what I told Cheeto. I said, I won't make him take the shirt off. If he wants to wear it over his current shirt, I'll allow it. Let's see. I just hit the nail on the head with this one, dude. Oh, he's just very polite.

And in bubblegum font, dude. Bubblegum, that's what you got. You got bubblegum, too? Yeah, you got bubblegum, too. You pick it organically? Man, we are. Damn, you got me a baby tee? Yeah, I want to see that body.

Dude, I'm going to give this to my fiance. I already showed it to her. She was like, what is happening, dude? Oh, dude, I should have did more crunches. No, sorry, man. Fuck. You got to let it rip. That's what I'm telling you.

We hit both ends of the temperature spectrum. Damn. It's going to be a hot, a hot but cooled down young boy, and I'm going to literally die of a heat stroke. Holy shit. There we go, baby. All right. All right. What do you know about that? You can see the full video of that on our Patreon, patreon.com slash menatworkpod.

Yep. God, I hope that's the right link. Click the link somewhere. Click the link here. I hope that's the right link. Yeah, right. It's going to come here now. All right.

Full video over there. Okay. Let's get these puppies on, dude. Yeah, we got to start. Yeah. Well, that's true too I'm not taking my shirt off Alright fair

Dude It's like getting on football He's really behind Because he made him wear a hoodie What do you think? Oh I love it Thank you I love it

Do I look jacked? Absolutely You look perfect It's like the 1980s all over again Oh okay What did the girl in the store say When you said, she goes, what do you want to write? She was such a team player. I love that lady.

She was awesome. I don't remember the name of the store, but dude, what an awesome lady. I don't think she ended up knowing what was going on and stuff, but like she was so cool. She was like, I could have said anything and she would have been like, yeah, I'll do a custom. What's up, brother? We'll get in a post. Take a seat, dude. What's the name of the show?

Men at Work Pod. Tell them to follow. Follow. Let's like, yeah, I'll do it custom. What's up, brother? We'll get in a post. Take a seat, dude. What's the name of the show? Men at Work Pod. Tell them to follow. Follow. Let's go. Yeah, dude. Subscribe. Subscribe. There's a mic right there.

Do you want to sit down and talk to us? Do you work? Get lit. Yes. Good job. Yes, I do. Sit down. Let's talk, baby.

What are you so scared about? Your buddy's loving life right now. Yeah, man. He's gone home. What do you got to worry about? Careful there, Slick. Yeah. Let's talk.

All right. Hold on one second. Your name, my friend? My name is rosario rosario i'm gavin make sure you're talking to the mic i'm gavin gavin yeah okay all right what do you do for work i work at wawa dude let's go and philly which one uh it's just wawa philly no well there's like it's a big city there's bridesburg wow so that's off the Aramingo Ave? Yeah. That one's crazy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Richmond Street. Okay.

What do you do? Are you cashier? Are you more behind the hoagie machine? We do anything we want. Like, anything. Like, you go all around. So you go to multiple Wows, or you just work at the one? We work at one, but, like, you can go into Bev or Register or...

What's your favorite part? Deli. Yeah? Are you nice making sandwiches? Oh, yeah. Yeah? I'll make you a sandwich right now. Yeah, really?

For real? With what? Bring one back, dude. Anything. Go. I'll bring one back. Make one. Look, now the story's changed.

Now Dan's changing up a little bit. Now he's changing up on us, dude. This guy sees the bright lights and the cameras, and he can't perform. I just wanted a hoag, man. That's all I want. Oh, I can put the mic on? Well, that's the mic. Those are headphones.

That's all right, dude. Sir, what do you do for a living? I work for a catering company. Catering company. Okay. It's a three-man company, so I'm basically a big part of helping everything run by cooking the food,

packaging it, sending it out for deliveries, cooking in the back of a bar called the Cannonball. That's also in Philly. Yeah. And, yeah. So you're in food.

Have you ever tried his sandwiches? Are they actually good, dude? You have. On a scale of one to ten, I give it a nice six. A nice six. Dude, that's rude. Wow. He comes to Wawa like every day.

Yeah. And I make a sandwich for him all the time. Damn. So that's a ten out of ten. Why do you keep going? It's the timing. If it's only a six. Because it's just Wawa.

I feel like everyone comes to Wawa. What's the Wawa order? See, for me, I either get a meatball sub or I get a buffalo mac and cheese. Bro, if you can't make a meatball sub more than a six out of ten, that's pretty bad. No, no. He's not. He comes to Wawa every day. But he can only work with what he's got.

The Wawa meatballs are not the most exceptional meatballs, dude. He can only do so much. I disagree 100%. The Wawa meatballs are not the most exceptional meatballs, dude. He can only do so much. I disagree 100%. The Wawa meatballs are great. I got to ask you guys a question. Yeah. What's your favorite cheesesteak place in Philly? We get this question all the time.

Yeah, people like this one. Nobody likes this one, but I like to say it to make people upset. Donkeys in Camden. Go ahead. You ever heard that? No. It's good. It's right over the bridge.

Give it a try. What's in Philly, though? What's the Philly place? I'm an Angelo's guy. That's kind of an easy... It's an easy... It's not Wawa. See that, Ross?

Just like that. Angelo's. That's it. That's it. That's all it is. Yeah. How many times do you go to Philly? Do you live in Philly?

I live in Philadelphia right now. Where do you live at? Fishtown. Fishtown? Yeah. So I'm close to Bridesburg. So are we starting a podcast? The podcast is already started.

It's happening in the front of your show. That's us four. Huh? That's us four. That's us four. Me and you starting a podcast with The podcast is already started. It's happening in front of you right now. That's us four. Huh? That's us four. Me and you starting a podcast with us four? Yes, we lock it in. Bro, I can't divvy up the money that much, man. It's hard enough divvying up 33%.

We'll do this. We'll come post up in front of your Wawa and do our pod. You can come out and make us a couple sandwiches. Corporate will love that. I work Wednesday. We can make a Wednesday work. You only work one day a week? No.

I'm just kidding. I'm just going to ask. True, true. No one in this country wants to work anymore. I work too much. Yeah? You work too much? So give us like, is Wawa, is it clean?

Yeah. It is clean? It is clean. Because you see some of these big box stores and everything, you go into them, you hear horror stories about the kitchens and everything, but would you say Wawa, even though it's like expanding a shitload, it's pretty clean still? Clean as shit. Wow.

Wow. The thing is, when I actually, yeah, it's really clean. Yeah. But like, Wawa, it's pretty clean still? Clean as shit. Wow. The thing is, when I actually... Yeah, it's really clean. Yeah. Wawa, it's clean. What's the perks of working at a Wawa? Money. There's got to be more than that.

It's money. Let me ask you this. I've always wanted this. Behind the deli, do you think you should get tipped? Like, should you have a tip jar out there? Nah. Nah, just for the love of the game. Dude, you do more than coffee workers, but they expect so much more.

That's true. I agree. Dude, I would tip a Wawa Deli person every time. I probably wouldn't, but I would do it more than I would do a coffee barista who just went like this. True. And then gave you my cold brew. Yeah, but I panic and I tip regardless. I don't even know what I'm talking about, dude.

I really am. It's unbelievable. What about you, though? Do you think you should be tipped catering? Do you guys get tipped? Yeah. Well, I get tipped on jobs. Yeah.

If I have a wedding, I get tipped. It could be like $200. Yeah. What's your favorite events? Weddings and places that have fireman's holes. Oh, shit, like the VFWs and those kind of places? Those people are usually pretty good? Yeah.

Yeah? What do you like about them? They're just good people, you know? No one ever has a bad attitude. They love the food no matter what, even if, like, we're going through something, like, I don't know, stressing out, like, the company. Like, they're cool. Like, they'll keep their patience.

Where's the worst event? It was an eighth grade or seventh grade communion party. Oh, I could see that. Yeah. It was at 8th grade or 7th grade communion party. Oh, I could see that. Yeah. It was at a church. What sucked about that? It was just the people. They were older.

They just hated it. Yeah. So it's all about the people. Yeah. Pretty much. For the event. If you get a girl there, you can walk in and see a Karen that wants everything done her way. But as a caterer, you have a way to set up everything.

Yeah. And you specialize in this shit. So get out of my way. You would know, yeah. I don't come to your job and tell you what to do. Beautiful. Yeah, true. You can't say that.

I know, it sucks. Did you get a chance to shout out the company, if you want to give them a quick shout out on here? What's the company? The company you work for. Oh, Jeff's Catering? Yeah. Hit us up.

Yeah, man. Jeff's? All events. Hit us up. Yeah, man. Jeff's. All events. Yeah. Small, medium, or large. Wow. Kater's too. Wawa does catering, dude.

Pizza stinks. No, I mean, I don't even think the Wawa corporate would be mad at that. Everyone knows that pizza stinks. Yeah, guys. We'll just wrap it up and say Phillies in the World Series. We'd like to see them there. Beautiful. We will. We will see them there. That's guys. We'll like to wrap it up and say Phillies in the World Series. We'll like to see them there. Beautiful. We will. We will see them there. That's brave. We will.

We'll see you guys in October at Frankfurt and Cotman. Stop by. Actually, if we did a pod from Frankfurt and Cotman, that'd be kind of sick. Let's go. Rocket Phils. That's it. That's good. All right, boys. Have fun. They're a juggernaut, those guys. Yeah, man. Thanks, guys. Thank you, brother. Have fun. Be safe. Have fun, fellas. Hey. Yeah, man. Thanks, guys. Thank you, brother. Have fun. Be safe. Have fun, fellas.

Hey. Go, Phils. Go, Phils. Go, Phils. Go, Phils. There we go. For the troops. Go, Phils.

For the troops. Go, Phils. What a unifying force, dude. We're fighting it out, dude. We do a podcast called Men at Work. We just ask people what they do for a living. It's a lot of fun. It's a good time.

What's the Villanova guy doing in Wildwood? What, Avalon was busy? Damn. We could have got our first white-collar crimp. I know. Dude, the white-collars never want to come along. He looked in time. Well, they got something to lose.

That's true. They can't talk about their operation. I've seen a guy wearing a sweatshirt that says, I'm a gay ginger. They're like, I might not attach myself to that. That's why we got people from wonderful Fudgeudge island the poor owner's gonna walk out there and be like yeah i'm not gonna do this at all what can you do though dude it's what we do yeah dude sorry sorry that we like to have a laugh sorry we horse around god forbid dude um i love

that my father was a wawa uh guy really he worked at w Worked at the freaking night shift, man. No shit. Yeah, he worked at the night shift. And he loved it, though. Did he really? Yeah. Like, my buddy was at Wawa. He was a cashier. My dad was Emeril behind the glass, behind the hoagie. Was he nice?

He was sick. Was he good at making food at home, too? No. He actually did most of the cooking. But he always told the story that it was like this guy came in 2, 3 in the morning, and he asked for his tomatoes to be cut in one-eighths so he could have a tomato in every single bite. And my dad was like, no. What?

This isn't fucking— That's the most insane thing I've ever heard. There's a Wolfgang fucking puck back there. It's my father. If somebody ever asked me that, I would for real pull my pants down And shit right in front of them My father makes meatloaf And frozen succotash You know For three nights Three days a week

That's kind of like Here's a Maya's nickname dude What's up guys How are you We do a podcast Where we ask people What they do for a living You want to sit down

And chill Three minutes Before you go to the bar What are you doing The podcast is It's called Men at Work We just ask people What they do for a living

I only need three minutes Of your time I'll steal it You want to tag team this? We got another one over here. Take a seat. Looks like we got another redhead, dude. Look at this.

We got this most gingers I've seen in my entire life. What do you think of his sweatshirt? It's a gay ginger. How about that? Crazy. How about that? I didn't even buy it. It just appeared on me one day.

It made sense. Take the mic for me? Yeah, if you don't mind. What's your name, my man? My name's Killian. What is it? Killian it killian killian yeah what about you big dog dylan dylan okay kill it killian and dylan hell yeah kind of rhymes kind of doesn't rhyme yeah sure doesn't you bounce for a living i don't all right go ahead what do you do uh you're a carpenter oh one of those i like that the. The cornerstone of America. Yeah. Absolutely.

What do you do, bro? I build custom closets. Okay. Do you ever use any of his wood? Yeah, all the time. Nice. Yeah, in the closet all day. Shout out to you guys.

Hell yeah. You guys are in the closet using each other's wood. I like that. That's awesome, man. That's sick. You guys are going to fit right in that. Dude, that's awesome. Are you sure you don't want the sweatshirt, too?

I would love one, actually. How long have you been a union carpenter? Like five years, five and a half. How's it going? It's going. It's good. right in that dude that's awesome are you sure you don't want the sweatshirt too how long you've been a union carpenter uh like five years five and a half how's it going it's going yeah yeah that's that's like i feel like every union guys what do you build uh i was doing high rises in philly like yeah shout out some of the projects well shout out some of the projects you were on the laurel and rittenhouse square uh the one at 16th and Sansom Street I just did. It was like a 30-story building, something like that.

I'm down at 30th Street Station right now, the train one. What are we doing over there? Like renovating it, kind of stuff like that. Inside or outside? Inside. Yeah.

So you're on the skyscraper. Are you like out, suspended, like high as shit? Really? Yeah, dude. There's a point where like I had to, there's like a little, there's like these columns

and there's literally like, I'm looking down at nothing, pretty much on the edge of the building with the thing on my back, having to drag the panels off the edge of the 30th story. Oh, my God. It's crazy. Are you scared of heights? Absolutely.

Dude, there's more jobs out there. That's the thing. It's like, how'd you get over your fear of heights? I never did. It's just every day is absolutely terrifying. Yep. Pretty much. What a guy, man.

So you're more on the ground? Oh, yeah. I don't do heights at all. I don't either. I worked for a chimney company for one day and found that out real quick. It's just two stories up. You're like, no thanks. Yeah, still.

Dude, I don't know if you can look at me and tell me and Gravity got a good relationship. I'm right there with you. I like that. I like that. Yeah, he's like, dude, you're on a double wide. What are you freaking out? You got vertigo up there? Yeah, you guys talking about having a bad day at work.

It's got to be a brutal conversation where you're like, ah, the closet was tight. And he's like, I almost died from 80 stories. Yeah, the closet's tight. Fuck you. Ah, man, I had to carry stuff up four flights of stairs. He's like, yeah, I had to hang off of 30 feet. Dude. I can't imagine.

So what do you make for a living? Closets? Yeah, we do custom closets, but it's like the more higher end stuff. It's more fun than you would expect because you end up getting cool clientele. We did BG's house. Sweet. Yes, it was cool. Brandon Graham for anyone that doesn't know.

Yeah, I mean, if you don't know, I don't know where you're doing. Yeah, that's true. True. Dude, that's awesome. Yeah, we get around. We see a bunch of people and something different every day, you know? So it's chilling. Did he have a sick closet?

Yeah, yeah. The whole house. So you're obviously an Eagles fan, i'm guessing yeah let's go so how's that feel when you're like hey uh what was your name again killian killian you got a one of the best eagles of all time you're gonna go over to his house and you feel like get nervous a little bit uh yeah well no i was i actually i started in the shop and when my boss said we were doing brandon grahams i pretty much bullied him into letting me go. Yeah. Because he was going to keep me back.

I'm like, bro, I'm going to cause a problem if you don't send me to the shop right now. We will do an Oklahoma drill right here. Yeah, I don't even care. I'll come off the edge like he did for Tom Brady. You can fire me after I go to that place. I need to say what's up. That's so sick. That's so sick.

So, yeah. So you're up high. I can't get over working up that high because I'm terrified of heights, too. Fuck that. You ever seen somebody, like, take a pretty big fall? Yeah. It was actually brutal. It was terrible.

Oh, no. This dude, I mean, yeah, this dude fell off the core, had to get flown off the building with the frames. Yeah. Did you fly him off the building? Yeah, in a man basket right down to the paramedics. Yeah, it was brutal. Holy shit, dude.

Yeah, it was hard to watch. Yeah, then the next day, you just got to go to work again? Yeah. I mean, is it like... Dude, the next minute, they were literally like, get back to work. Oh, my God brutal. Holy shit, dude. Yeah, it was hard to watch. Yeah, and then the next day you just got to go to work again? Dude, the next minute they were literally like, get back to work. I was like, are you kidding me? What a nightmare.

But you got to think, though, like you would hear about this stuff all the time. So the safety protocols actually have to be kind of good. Yeah, absolutely. If I got caught not wearing like a lanyard

hanging off the building, they'd throw me right off the job. Right. But, I mean, it's like I have to wear a harness and then it hooks to your back so if I drop it, it would catch me and it just locks and I'd be hanging off the job. What's the lanyard? It's like I have to wear a harness and then it hooks to your back so if I drop it would catch me. And it just locks.

And I'd be hanging off the building. How far do you have to drop before it starts locking? It locks fast. Immediately. You ever had to get locked? Yeah, one time. I fell off a column and it locked me. People talk shit to you after that? Do they make fun of you? All the time, yeah.

It's just like, dude, you're scared. I couldn't do it. Almost die until I get told to grow up. Yeah. Rub some dirt on it. I almost stopped growing up right there. Go throw some butt on it, all right? That's what we love about the union guys and everything.

You guys are just so salt of the earth. Huge. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's rough. I feel like blue-collar work like coming back into fashion a little bit like we obviously like we're like go to college blah blah and we were growing up and stuff but people are kind of like dude if you suck at school and you're an idiot like go do a trade dude even i did really good in high school and like even still i just didn't want to go to college so my dad was in it and he got me in it

got it yeah i was just saying the other day if i wasn't that, I don't have a damn clue what I would be doing. Right. Would Pops be mad if you weren't a carpenter, like if you were an electrician? No, he wouldn't be mad. No, he just wanted to bring me in because that's what he did, and he knew I wasn't liking college. Got it.

Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Nice. And let alone not having a ton of debt for something you're probably not going to do. True. That's 100%. I mean, I have a marketing degree.

He's got a finance degree. Where are we at now? We're doing a podcast. Begging for people to come talk to us on the boardwalk. We're talking about blue-collar babies right now. Just because I wanted to do Excel sheets, dude. I fucked up. I mean, look at these hands, Dylan.

You seen these hands done any blue-collar work before? I put them on moisturizer before I came out today, dude. Oh, yeah, dude. What's anything you ask him? Do you ever ask him anything about what he does for a living? No. No? No.

I mean, I don't know. We've been boys for years. I've just heard it. He just makes fun of me like everyone else. That's just part of it. Did you have any jobs before you were a carpenter? I was a server for years. I love serving though. Front of house, baby. Let's go. Get that cash.

We all do it. It gets its hooks in. You get stuck doing it too long, and then you find something else. Yeah. How about you, man? Were you anything before carpenter? I went to college for a little, and then I was working at a warehouse. What were you majoring in?

Nothing. I'm excited. Business administration. Oh, that was it. I got accepted. Shout out. Shout out, business administration. True.

It's the go-to, dude. Yeah. I got accepted to Temple, but I thought I was going to get a scholarship, but I got nothing. Did you play any sports? You're kind of a big dude. I played accepted to Temple, but I thought I was going to get a scholarship, but I got nothing. Did you play any sports? You're kind of a big dude. I played basketball, but then, yeah, I was like a twig when I played basketball. Got it. Then the carpet just turned you into a man. Yeah, pretty much.

Oh, my God. Did you get recruited to play at Temple, or was it just you played before? No, no, no. That was for my grades, no. I just got accepted because I had good grades, that's it. All right, I got you. I just didn't go. What was one piece of advice you'd give to somebody who wants to get into blue-collar work, the trades? Wait until you're in a good mindset and place in your life because it's like once you get in, it's like you don't want to mess it up.

How could you mess it up if you weren't in a good mindset? Because you have to go to school, and it's like they'll throw you out of school if you're not showing up, or if you fail a drug test, anything like that. And it's like you're out then. So it's tough. Yeah. And, dude, like I said, it's like the best way for someone, like you said, who doesn't want to go to school to make good money.

Yeah. Because there's not a lot of other things like that nowadays. Wow. Fair. Yeah. What advice would you give somebody? Just pay attention in shop class? Yeah.

No. Honestly, I would say don't do the bare minimum. Wow. Fair. Yeah. What advice would you give somebody? Just pay attention in shop class? Yeah. No, honestly, I would say don't do the bare minimum. Dylan loves that. Dylan has to love that one. Dude, it's really easy to get. Dude, he loved that one. You can get him cackling quick. I can hear it in my ears. Very distracting.

But no, I'd say don't be afraid to work. Put that, go above and beyond. Don't be that guy who just has a bare minimum, and you'll actually advance faster than you'd expect. That's what I would say. And bullying your boss to let you work at Brandon Graham's house. Now, if you could say anything directly to Brandon Graham right now, maybe he's watching this. I love you, BG.

Tell Cooper Sharp to John, I said, what's up? I love that. Remember me? I was in your room. And I'm coming back. I'm all... Tell the rest of the nooks and crannies. Hit up the closet company that you got.

I want to meet everyone. You can shout the boys out. What do you mean? The closet company. Closets for less of bucks. Make sure you say Killian St. That's a fucking mouthful.

Closets for less of bucks. Yeah, you got to put the of bucks legal. Jeez, what's the website like that? Is it closets for less of bucks? Yeah. Closets for less. Okay. Closets for less. Okay. Jeez, what's the website like that? Is it closetsforless.com?

Yeah. Closets for Less. Okay. Closets for Less. Okay. All right. Shout the boys out. What local?

Local 158. All right. Go rub some dirt on it. Appreciate it, guys. Thanks, brother. Appreciate you. Hi, ladies. How are you? Do you want to sit down?

We do a podcast where we ask people what they do for a living or what they did for a living. I know. You want to talk about it? We'd love to hear about it. We never have people who are retired. We need three minutes. I know you guys have stories. Let's have fun. Come on. I know you have stories. All right, miss. Here you go, you beautiful angel. What's your name? Barb Jeroen. Barb Jeroen. That was so cute. I love this lady. I already love Barb Jeroen. I fucking love her. And what did you do for a living? I was in HR.

HR? PNC Bank. Oh, no. You're the one that made us pee in the cup, weren't you? I was in HR, that's right. And I fired and hired people. Nice. Laid them off.

Were you a stickler? He was a hatchet. I was known as the hatchet. Oh, so if you came in, you were like the angel of death. Like, you were done. How was that? Was that a stressful, scary thing to do? Very stressful.

That's why I took early retirement. Oh, sick. How long have you been retired? I've been retired since 2008. Wonderful. Wow. Wow. Just a perfect time to retire.

Yeah, a good time to get out. Right when the stock market collapsed. My sister here and that, we do travel. We've been to Greece. Wow. We've been to Greece. Wow. We've been to Tennessee. We've taken many, many trips. So retirement's wonderful.

Yeah, I always say like Greece and Tennessee, same place. The big two, right? And of course, Wildwood. Wildwood every year. Absolutely. Why did you choose Wildwood? Been coming here since I was six months old. My aunt rented every year.

My sister now owns a place down here. So we were just talking about it. We have not missed hardly a year at Wildwood in all the years. That's awesome. Since birth. I'll be 79 years old. Hey, almost 80. Almost 80.

Shout out to you. You look great. Thank you. Is there any advice you'd give to the young people as a person of HR or maybe people who need to fire people in the next week or two? I would just say when you go for interviews, you need to look directly in the eyes of the interviewer. You've got to be dressed properly and have your wits about you.

Okay. Let's see the handshake. That's a tough one. I can feel that from over here. I can feel that one from over here. That's a tough one. That was the handshake over here. I can feel that one from over here. That's a tough one. That was the handshake you get when you're fired. Figure it out.

I did hire people, too. Of course, of course, of course. In your lifetime, did you hire or fire more people? I hired more. Good. I hired more. Yes, yes. Did you do anything else but HR?

I started out years and years ago with four different banks. First, Pennsylvania Bank, which is well in the past. Yeah. And I was just in their processing department there. Got it. And then moved on to different positions. I was a secretary, and then I worked myself up to assistant VP at the bank. Wow.

That's incredible. Stun on them. Oh, my God. We're in the presence of greatness here. From processing to secretary to the assistant vice president? Yeah, AVP. Wow. That's incredible. Stun on them. Oh, my God. We're in the presence of greatness here. From processing the secretary to the assistant vice president? Yeah, ADP. Wow, that's awesome. Which there's many, believe me, with the best.

No, don't sell yourself short. I don't want to hear it. What are you doing? There's many. Yeah. Go off, queen. So you've been coming to Wildwood your whole life. I mean, have there been a lot of big changes?

Like, what's the biggest changes you've noticed? Yes. Some of the things that stand out now? What looks different than when you used to come here? Well, the buildings. The boardwalk basically is the same, right? But it's the new construction. And, you know, when we came for many years, it was just, I don't want to say shanties, but they were.

It didn't even exist. It was just. This place is only what, like two, three years old? This is great. We were here one night. That's what we just said. We might just come in for a little afternoon cocktail. I love that. Hey, when you're retired, you can do whatever you want.

You can do whatever you want. Every day's Saturday. That's right. That's right. Well, hey, ladies, go have fun. Maybe we'll see you in there after. We really appreciate you coming on. Thank you. Are you Kyle? I'm Kyle. And I'm Matt. Hey, Matt. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Have a good holiday. Thank you so much. You have a great holiday.

What was your name again? I probably shouldn't have said PNC Bank. Ah, you're retired. meet you. Nice to meet you. Have a good holiday. Thank you so much. You have a great holiday. What was your name again? I probably shouldn't have said PNC Bank. Ah, you're retired. What are they going to do, take your pension or something? We'll bleep it out. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much.

Have fun. Bye. Oh, what a, oh, God. That is. I just, I want to be 80. God, I want to be that woman, specifically her. That's the greatest person of all time, Barb Jerome. Have you ever had to fire anyone?

No. No. Oh, God, no. I've never even had to fire time. Barb Jerome. Have you ever had a fire, anyone? No. No, God no. I'm worried about getting fired right now, dude. I just got kicked out of a bar after a work event. I'm getting fired. How are you feeling in that? Bad, dude. Are the pits squeaking a little bit? They're squeaking a little bit. I feel better now that I have Barb on my side. That's true. That's incredible, dude.

Go in a nice midday cocktail when you've been retired since 08. That's the best life. That's a sick life. What do you worry about? Yeah. You have the pension. You have the Social Security.

You have the grandkids. Yeah. You get to go do cocktails on Saturday. I mean, and you got to think she earned it, too. I mean, how much she was in person. She had to fire in person. Now you just hop on a Zoom call. You know what I mean?

She had to walk in, shake the shit out of your hand, and go, look, dude, today's not your day. Shit. We should have asked her about firing. She would have loved firing people on Zoom. I know. Yeah. She was the Grim Reaper. She seems like somebody who's got to do it in person.

Yeah. Old school? Yeah, I think so. I can tell by the handshake. Oh, yeah. Really gripped me. Gripped my hand. I felt it.

It was electric. Gripped me. We were servers at Pandora Diner. Yeah. Yeah. Have you never heard of it? What's your specialty? Serving.

We got the job at the same time. We had the same birthday. Yeah. Wow. You guys do everything together? What is that? You guys do everything together? Yeah, basically.

We're going to college for engineering together. Oh, sweet. Very nice, guys. We're boys. Going from serving to engineering. How are you going to take serving into your engineering degree? Well, I don't know. We're only just doing serving just like because it's good money as a teenager.

It's like the best money you could find as a teenager. I mean, bringing home money every night, it's the best thing you do. Yeah. And you don't got to worry about like getting taxed because it's mostly cash. Careful, dude. The IRS is listening. Don't tell them on camera. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

What the hell are you doing here, dude? I'm like five bucks an hour. There we go. There we go. Hey, it'll move up to maybe $5.50 soon. Yeah, it's free. Nobody's auditing you guys. You keep giving the info for free. What is happening here?

So where are we going to college, guys? What's the next move? So we go to Rowan for two years. That was my idea. And then he brings up Virginia Tech for the next two. You guys literally have a plan. We got a plan. We got Rowan for two years to save money.

Community. So RCSJ. I didn't go to the community. I went to regular Rowan. So I can't speak on that. I went all four for regular Rowan. We're going two of the two. Yeah, two of the two so we can save money because only the last two years matter the

most because of the actual major. Because the first two years is just math and math. Yeah, they don't care. They only care what your degree came from. As long as you have your associates, you're good. Then you move over to Virginia Tech. Good program for engineering that. So why do the homies want to go to college together?

I don't know, dude. It would be fun. We met three years ago. We got dorms together. We met three years ago, and then ever since then, just boys, dude. That's all it is. You don't get sick? You guys got a room together at Virginia's just boys, dude. That's all it is. You guys get a room together at Virginia Tech?

Yeah, dorm. Or we're gonna. Nice. You guys gonna move into like an apartment like outside of Rowan or are you guys gonna stay at your

family's place? We're probably just gonna stay at our own place. The first two years stay at our own place because Rowan's like 30 minutes from me, not even.

Yeah, it's like, yeah. So have you guys been accepted to Virginia Tech or? We're still in high school. We're still juniors in high school. Oh, jeez. We've been accepted to the community college We're still in high school. We're still juniors in high school. Oh, jeez.

We've been accepted to the community college. My band fell. I didn't know what the plan was. We got the money. No, I'm just kidding. We don't got that much money. They're not paying any taxes, so they got the money. So you're not upset about your first two years missing out on college parties,

going to a community, or you don't really care about that? I don't. I mean, we used to look at the parties. Yeah, it's tough to come by. Yeah, but we have some about that? I don't. I mean, we used to look at the parties. Yeah, yeah, like. It's tough to come by. Yeah, but we have some boys that know how to party, so. Okay. Even now, so. Know a couple guys down here.

Yeah. I got you. You know the right people around you, they can get you places. Yeah. That's for everything. Yeah. That's fair. As long as you got connections.

Yeah. You guys don't get sick of each other? No. People think we're buddies. People think we're brothers all the time at our job. We used to have the same haircut. Oh, my God. It was bad.

Well, now you guys have two totally radically different haircuts. I got a mullet. This motherfucker's got a fringe. Now, what's up with the mullet with you kids these days? Why is the mullet back? So, I got curly hair. Okay. So, I needed to try out the mullet. So, I got curly hair in the back, fuzzy hair

in the front. Right. So it's like a good combo. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We're doing a podcast. Back up, sir. Back up. Back up. You're in the camera. What are you... Come on. Alright, but... So I got curly hair in the back, and I would just thought it would just flow real nice. Yeah. And at first, it wasn't

that curly, but... Dude, how's the reaction been? Did people enjoy it? They like it? So at first, nobody liked it until it got real curly. That's his, right dude. How's the reaction been to people into it? They like it at first nobody liked it. She looks like a girlfriend right there until it's all matters They're pulling her that that The French pull something yeah the French bulls cupcakes miners Okay, I don't know what that means I'm pretty sure you guys are Okay, we're still minors. I guess that's okay. All right.

We got to get going, guys. Thanks for having us on the podcast. It was good to meet you guys. What's the podcast called? Men at Work. He'll give you all the socials. Men at Work. Thank you. Have fun, dude.

Good luck, guys. You too. Good luck, man. Enjoy yourselves. All right, buddy. You too. Thanks, man. What the fuck just happened there?

It was different. Fellas, how are you? How? Thanks for sitting down. We appreciate you. Yeah, dude. Who we got on right here? My name is Luke. Luke and then I'm Dylan. Dylan. Yep.

God, I love you. You have a country concert aesthetic on to you too. I'm not country at all. Wow. I like that. Oh my God, you might want to tell your face. That's the most country face I've ever seen. Tell your mustache. I'm jealous. I can't grow a mustache. I have a half one right now, and I just want to have yours.

That's all. That's all that was. What's your name, dude? Luke. Luke. What do you do for a living? Union carpenter. Second union carpenter today.

How about that, man? Are you local? 167. 167. Yeah. Cool. I'm out of Allentown. Nice.

What do you do? I'm a palmer. Damn. Sweet. Not union, but. Not union yet. Got a couple blue-collar babies on the program. How about that? I'm a Palmer. Damn. Sweet. Not union, but. Not union yet. Got a couple blue collar babies on the program. How about that?

I love the blue collar babies. How long until you become union? I don't know. I'm working on it. Hopefully within the next year. What's that process like? I didn't know there was actually a process. You got to apply and then go for an interview.

They do applications like once a year, one week out of the year. Okay, so it's like a sales job. Then you got to pass a test, they test you, and then they'll bring you in for an interview. Definitely helps when you know somebody. Right. Yeah, it's all about knowing somebody in the union. So you're just a terrible networker? Pretty much.

How long have you been in the union? Four years. Sweet. How do you like it? It's good. I'm a foreman. What's that? So it's basically- Supervisor. Sweet. How do you like it? It's good. I am a foreman.

What's that? So it's basically... Supervisor. Oh, wow. The head honcho. Four years and you're already the boss? I'm number two. Okay. Still up there.

Yeah, number two in the company in four years? Yeah, it's good. Stressful? It is stressful. Managing people? It's a lot of numbers and making sure your guys are doing the right thing at the right time. So you're signing time sheets and everything, keeping track of people? Yeah, I put hours in with some guys.

You ever got to discipline or anything like that, or it usually runs pretty smooth? Sometimes. Yeah? Sometimes guys are talking on the job and on their phone. It's all numbers. No talking allowed at this guy's place. I like this. I like talking.

Of course. You can talk. It's the... Shut your trap around this guy. Yeah, right. Are you managing guys? Are they older than you? Like, is it a weird dynamic? Yeah, it's definitely weird.

It's awkward? Yeah, it's definitely weird. A lot of the guys don't have too much respect. Sure. How do you level with them? You just got to get close with them, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Be their friend.

Got it. Yeah. What do they react to in terms of if you got to be like, hey. They're pretty good. Hey, John. Yeah. Pick it up a little bit, you know? A lot of the guys, they have respect.

There's a couple guys that give me a problem that don't want. I see a 24-year-old, and I get it. I mean, if I saw a kid coming in, it's... Do you have to use your tactics like your father used to? Like, I'll bend you over my knee and spank you or stick my finger in your face? I can't. I'm too nice to do that. Okay, good for you.

It's probably a good move. It's better than a foreman on a power trip, I'll tell you that. Yeah, definitely. Would you ever work for him? Yeah, I'd work for to do that. Okay, good for you. It's probably a good move. Dude, it's better than forming on a power trip, I'll tell you that. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Would you ever work for him? Yeah, I'd work for him. Cool. I still need a lot of work.

He's a good dude. I'll tell you, I still need a lot of work. I'm still young. They're trying to get me into it. Yeah. You seem like you have emotional intelligence, which is like half the battle in the workforce. I try to stay calm. Yeah.

You got to stay calm. Yeah. So being a stay calm. Yeah. So being a plumber, dude, what's the, I mean, I imagine you're dealing with shit every, well, no pun intended, but you're dealing with like a lot of stuff every day. What's the craziest thing you've seen happen? We pull some weird shit out of the toilet. Yeah, like what?

What do you pull out? Like I pull underwear out, toys, seashells. What kind of toys? And this is just your house, right? This is your house? No. My boss pulled a dildo out one time. You've got to think that's a big one.

We see some weird stuff coming out of there. That's a tough flush. A dildo down a toilet. On or off. Hopefully off. I don't want to hear that thing vibrating down there. No, no, no. Either way.

No. Yeah. But yeah yeah a lot of weird stuff what's up just making sure everything's being told the truth you know oh wow um make sure we're being good so toys what other toys that aren't sex toys like like spider-man action figures it's like kids throw a lot of stuff down the toilet yeah yeah do you have to tell the people sorry yeah you have to tell the people at the house what you pulled out when you pulled out? Yeah.

What are the reactions like? Do you ever get a wife who didn't know about something? What's that look like? Well, one time we pulled some condoms out of a drain line, and she said they don only use condoms. That was a little awkward. Oh, boy. Yeah.

Was she pissed when you told her? Yeah, she wasn't. She wasn't happy. Was that the first marriage you've ruined? No. Yeah, wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We call that a Tuesday.

I love that, dude. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. My God. So do you just like, do you not have like a sense of smell? No, I guess at first it was bad. We worked together for about a year before I got into the corporate.

Yeah. Oh, you weren't plumbing before? He got me into this. Gotcha. So you're not a bad networker. You're a pretty good networker. Yeah, I'm all right. Not bad.

But yeah, I don't know. You get used to it over time. At this point, I feel like I'm almost nose-blind to it. It doesn't bother me anymore. Do you hate the as-seen-on-TV snake things because they take away from your business? No, because they don't work. So they end up just calling us anyway. Really?

Why don't they work? I feel like he's got a salesman. I mean, he's a good salesman. He's a great salesman. I didn't know that. Well, here's... I've always... Yeah, any of that stuff

you get at Home Depot or online, they don't work and they just end up calling us anyway. Okay. Flushable wipes, they're bullshit.

Oh, no. I used like four this morning. There's no such thing. Oh, you didn't know that? No, I said flushable. I flushed it. There's no such thing. No.

Your sub pump will be pushed. Eh, we're renting. What's up? We're trying to give you guys more business. So flushable wipes are a crock of shit. Why? They don't dissolve like toilet paper. Toilet paper dissolves in water.

Wow. Flushable wipes don't. Damn. Did you have a question? I feel like you had a question first. Yeah, I'm curious. Like with the Carhartt and Dickies and stuff becoming popular and, like, trendy to wear, and you guys actually probably use it, you know, for practicality.

Does that annoy you, seeing just, like, some hipster dude in Philly walking around in Carhartt, or it's like, whatever? No, we don't really. I wear Thorogood. Okay. Yeah, better brand. Wow. Wow.

So Carhartt's not even as good? Carhartt doesn't really do it on its own. Carhartt's a little overhyped. I still like it, but... It changed. It changed. Before there's hipsters and stuff like that. Oh, you are wearing a Carhartt hat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my bad. I feel like... I mean, it is a blue-collar brand, but... It's changed. Yeah, I feel like it's... A lot of people see it as trendy and people who aren't blue-collar wear it.

And it is what it is. What's your favorite thing about the union? I like the progress. I like seeing the progress. He likes the benefits. We do. The benefits are great. The money's great.

Go more about the progress. What do you mean the progress? The progress of, I've done 45-story skyscrapers both those and just seeing the thing get built yeah pretty dope yeah it's pretty cool a sense of accomplishment yeah you get a lot of work done you have 50 to 100 guys on those jobs you know what's your favorite thing about plumbing uh i don't know i don't really like it okay that's fair that's totally fair I appreciate the if I was union

it's not bad like union's not a dirty job I guess I don't like the the dirty aspect of it like I do service residential what's that it's like

like I just go house to house like fix shit just knock on doors pretty much oh wow customers suck people suck yeah I mean,

I feel like no one's ever happy to see you. No, they're not. Because usually it's something I gotta fish condoms or a sex toy or my kid's Tonka truck and I have to spend $500 for you to come out. Yeah, they don't like that. Yeah. Like, union jobs, they're not bad. It's all new construction, like what he does.

Yeah. Do you ever feel weird going to somebody's house? Like, I used to work at Comcast, and we would go on, like, truck rolls and stuff. So we would go with the people who did the, plugged in the cable and stuff. And you just walk into someone's house, and you immediately judge the house. Yeah. Yeah, I've been in quite a few hoarder houses. Oh, wow. Oh, my God, dude.

Yeah, like, you can tell, like, sometimes the house hasn't been cleaned in years. And, yeah, it's a little gross, but you guys have to like be professional. Do you ever address it to them or are you kind of just like acting like it's not there? Like you just got to walk around. You just act like it's not there. Yeah, just act like it's not there. Oh, really? Really.

Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. I see a lot of cockroaches. They do a lot of work in Philly, a lot of cockroaches. They do a lot of work in Philly. A lot of cockroaches. Just kind of act like it's not there. Yeah.

Hey, listen. I'm calling you. We're looking for you guys if we ever do anything. Any man work done. Maybe not you. I'm calling you. I'm calling you, dude. You ruin marriages.

I'm engaged. You're the grim reaper. Awesome. Well, thanks, guys. Go enjoy yourselves. We really appreciate you sitting down. Have fun. We got our union friends in here. Yeah, I knew we were going to get a lot of blue-collar Awesome. Well, thanks, guys. Go enjoy yourselves. We really appreciate you sitting down. Have fun. We got our union friends in here. Yeah, I knew we were going to get a lot of blue-collar babies.

I love that, dude. Ideal smeal. Thoughts on the boardwalk? I love a boardwalk, dude. I grow up coming here, so anytime we come here, it's all the nostalgia of trying to get under the boardwalk and kiss a lady when you're in high school. Hey, sir, how are you? What's going on, man? We do a podcast wherewalk and kiss a lady when you're in high school. Hey, sir.

How are you? What's going on, man? We do a podcast where we ask what people do for a living. You look like an interesting fella. I only need three minutes of your time. No more. You got three minutes? Yeah, yeah.

All right. Take a seat, please. Yeah, if you want to hop on. Yeah, yeah. Hop on. Take a seat. Tag team this. So what's your first name?

Wyatt. Wyatt? Yeah. That's a cool fucking name. Yeah, that's pretty sick. What's your first name? Kate. Kate. And Wyatt,'s a cool fucking name. What's your first name? Kate. Kate.

And Wyatt, what do you do for a living? I'm a consultant for a pretty large consulting firm. All right. We don't get white collar people ever on this show. All the blue collar people want to talk and talk. And the nurses love to talk. Are you a nurse? I'm not a nurse.

Okay. What do you do for a living? I'm a social worker, but I'm a therapist at Temple. Okay. Oh, wow. Go out. Yep. Go out.

Go to Temple. So consultant, what do you consult? So, my clients and my area of expertise are ERP implementation, so text implementation, so SAP or Oracle. Oracle, yeah. I work more of the human side of it, so I do change management. So, those companies that are getting a new software, they want their employees ready for the change and all the changes coming. So they bring on consultants that have a communication plan, an engagement plan for their employees. So they

adopt the changes and they know what's happening. So are you the guy coming in to train them? I'm not training, but I may write a training strategy. I'll put together a training curriculum. So obviously people don't hate you, but they definitely hate what you build because training sucks. Yeah, no one likes change, and so it's hard. And no one wants to deal with something new because people like to think

they're good at what they do, right? So you're coming in, and they're not going to be as good day one. So they're a little intimidated. They're scared. So dealing with emotions. Social worker. Yes, by trade. But I do do therapy mental health therapy got it so so you do it at the university yes so you're dealing with the kids

or is it kind of anybody yeah okay so yeah tuttleman counseling is where we offer mental health services i never went there yeah well you could use it that's a good thing yeah yeah you know it could be good yeah i was just stopped by. Yeah, get it checked out. So is that like, it's, you know, college, one of the more stressful times in someone's life. Are you dealing with a lot of crazy stuff, I'm imagining? Yeah. Yeah. Mental health is something that needs still a lot more attention.

Sure. Drawn to it. Okay. Yeah, and it's Mental Health Awareness Month still, so. Oh, how about that? Yeah. Oh, shut up. Talk to someone if you need to.

Very nice. There we go. PSA. Yeah. Do you feel that people our age are more open to therapy than maybe people who are like your father and mother's age? Yeah, I would say our generation. So I'm a millennial in my 30s.

I would say we're a little open, but the younger generation I think is even more open. Oh, okay. Yeah. So are they cool with coming in or do you have to kind of just feed them through TikTok about mental health strategies? No, they're cool in coming in. As long as they know we're there, they come. Okay. So if he comes home from a stressful day at work, are you giving him therapist speak to kind of talk him down?

Or do you just let him go? No, I just let him go. You can't do therapy with the people closest to you. Really? Yeah. Well, one, technically it's a conflict of interest, but also. Wait, what's the conflict of interest? Like, you just, it's like morally.

Be more attentive to your partner. Like, I think be swayed. That's a therapy speak from you, dude. I think it started to rub off on you. That was nice. Be more attentive to your partner. That was beautiful. I love it.

There you go. I love it. How long have you been doing consulting for a while? So just with this company for like two and a half years. What'd you do before? Before that, I worked for like a uniform and facility services company called Centos. Yeah, of course. But I also did do SAP implementation for that.

Like that's how I kind of got started into it. Centos themselves were getting SAP. So they hired like young kids to like learn it and then go around the country, like, train it to their own employees. Okay. So that was kind of, like, the thing that kicked off to, like, what I'm doing now. So you weren't folding laundry and stuff. You were doing the technology part. No, no, but my first position was sometimes, like, a management trainee program where you, like, do different rotations.

So, like, I at one point was driving the trucks, picking up the uniforms. Yeah. You know, picking up dirty laundry. Doing it all, baby. Yeah, yeah. Nice. Yeah. Would you always want to be a social worker?

No, I was a teacher. And then, yeah. We've seen that a lot, that a lot of teachers become nurses or a lot of teachers become social workers. Yeah. Or vice versa. Yeah. I mean, kids in schools, it's just different. It's hard to be a teacher.

It's really, really hard. So, I transitioned to social work just because I like to talk to people more. Okay. And that's, so that's what I do for a teacher. It's really, really hard. So I transitioned to social work just because I like to talk to people more. And that's, so that's what I do for a living now. I got you. So consulting, are you a fully remote or are you in the office? Yeah. So I would say like 75% I'm remote and then another 25 at a client site. It depends on the project. Like my first project with this company, I was fully virtual. I didn't meet any of my client counterparts or my internal counterparts in person at once.

Right. But then my last few projects were like 25% co-location. Okay. Yeah. And I imagine you're in every day or? In and remote. We have a balance. Oh, okay.

I didn't know if it would be. A little Zoom therapy? Yeah, a little Zoom therapy. How about that? I don't prefer it. Yeah. But some people do. You know.

Yeah. It works for some, not for me. I can see it being beneficial if you're the person talking to the therapist. You're a little more secluded where you can open up more, I guess. Yeah. Maybe so. Yeah. Sweet. You've teacher hours, I'm guessing, because now the university

is closed. Yeah, we still are open in the summer, but it's just less since the students aren't there. So you get to enjoy the shore. We do. We run a food page on Instagram from Philly. So we run a food Instagram. Phil My Plate. PHL My Plate. PHL My Plate.

Appreciate it. I love that. So that's what we do and that's what we're doing today. We moonlight as influencers but full-time jobs as well. That's awesome. A lot of work. What are you guys trying down here? Any good restaurants to look out for in Wildwood? Not really. We came down for agenda more just we're staying at this hotel that one of our PR,

Aversa PR, like, invited us to. Yeah. The name of the hotel is escaping me, but we're staying there. The Madison. The Madison. Yeah, I think it's new this year. Yeah, Wildwood. Wildwood Crest.

But, yeah, so we just grabbed Curly's cheese fries and Sam's pizza just quickly. Oh, I think it's new this year. Yeah, Wildwood. Wildwood Crest. But yeah, so we just grabbed Curly's Cheese Fries and Sam's Pizza just quickly. Oh, perfect. Good. Always, always hits. Sweet. Yeah. Awesome, folks. Well, go enjoy yourselves.

Yeah, thanks. Thanks for having us. Yeah, guys, appreciate it. I got real sentimental for a second. I said something about opening up and feeling secluded, and I was so sentimental, I stuttered over my words. I couldn't believe it was happening. Look at you.

Oh, my God. Shedding your walls. Well, it's because I think I'm dying. I'm so hot. I can't even try to carry conversations and I'm like, I'm going to fucking die. I keep forgetting you have it on. Well, the best part is people don't realize it until like halfway through and they're like

It's a statement. It is. It's a definite statement. We got Pride Month coming up next month so we got to get ready to go. That's true. Yeah, man. Holy shit. Hey, sir, how are you? We do a podcast where we ask people what they do for a living.

We do a podcast where we just ask people what they do for a living. I only need three minutes. We haven't had a middle-aged, good-looking man like yourself yet. We haven't. I need three minutes. You seem like an interesting guy. Just tell us about your job for a little bit, and then we'll let you run to your thing. And we'll let you go.

Then you can get your beers. Just sit down, talk into the mic, and we just ask what you do for a living. Perfect. So hold on one second. Hold on. No deal. We're at Harrah's Casino in Chester, Pennsylvania. Wait.

Hold on one second. Hold on. Ready? What's your name? Tom. And what do you do for a living? I'm a casino dealer at Harrah's in Chester, Pennsylvania. Oh, my God. You're the guy

who has all my money. Oh my God. Nobody forces you to gamble. I love it. He's got that one built and ready to go. How many times do you have to say that? I tell people that Harrah's didn't kidnap you and bring you here at gunpoint. You came on your own.

How does somebody become a casino dealer? Well, I played blackjack for 30 years, and I retired from my newspaper job, so I said I could part-time job, I could deal, six weeks of training, and then you got a job. Do you like it? Yeah, I like it. Yeah, what do you like the most about it? Dealing with the people.

You like the people? Yeah, most of the people are good. Yeah. Yeah, and they understand. I tell them all when they're a get-ahead, leave, before you give them the money back to me. I'm sure Mr. Harris loves that. Yeah, they don't care.

Because they know they're going to come back anyway. That's true. So, when you get ahead, leave. Okay. Because the casino has the edge. Yeah. Everything is tilted has the edge. Yeah. Everything is tilted to their advantage. How so?

Well, if you know how to play blackjack, it's like 52% in the house's favor. If you count cards, then it's like 49%. So it's still got a pretty good percentage. Yeah. Have you ever had to catch any card counters? Yeah. Is it pretty easy to recognize? Yeah.

Really? How do you recognize it? Well, it's their betting patterns. Go further on that, their betting patterns. Well, if they're betting $25 and they bet $200, and you know when the decks get, we use six decks, when it gets Richard Face cards, you increase your bet. Because low cards, I have to hit on 16, the dealer.

Yeah. So you don't want small cards. Yeah. The more higher cards is an advantage to the player. So some of the decks have more face cards or face heavy? Oh, okay. But when they come out. Yeah.

So in the beginning of the shoe, if they're all low cards, well, you know the face cards are in there. Yeah. They're going to come out. Got it the beginning of the shoe if they're all low cards well you know the face cards are in there yeah they're going to come out got it and vice versa got it if all the face cards come out in the beginning and the low cards in the back then you want to cut down on your bet sweet how how do the good card counters get around you well if they're smart, they change their patterns, and they don't bet as much. Got it. Okay. So do you start to give little warnings, or as soon as you see it, you're like, get out of here? Yeah, well, I know, because before I got the job, I went to Cora County.

Okay, there we go. And I know what to look for. It's basically the betting patterns. Yeah. So you joined the dark side. Yeah, yeah. Damn. for it's basically the bedding pattern yeah yeah and you joined the dark side yeah yeah yeah damn well when harris when resorts first opened in inlantic city in gloucester council new jersey there was a car county and he got bored from the casinos he had to wear disguises when he went in

there because they knew him damn yeah now the other day we were i was dealing with a guy and they made him leave because they have they have records of who they are. Right. And the guy didn't argue, just took his money and left. They kind of know. Yeah, they kind of know. So have you always worked there? Were you an AC at all?

No, I worked there. I could transfer because we had three casinos in Atlantic City. Yeah. We're owned by Caesars Corporation. Harris. And there's Harris, there's Tropicana. Tropicana merged with Caesars. That's why Harris. And there's Harris, there's Tropicana. Tropicana merged with Caesars.

That's why Tropicana is now under our place. Caesars is the biggest casino in the world. There's like 48 casinos throughout the world. So you just have no interest in going to AC or is it tougher down there?

What's it look like? Because it's 15 minutes from where my daughter lives and I go up there in West Stafford. It's 15 minutes, well it's actually 22 minutes, 15 miles. Okay.

Got it. But I could transfer, but you've got to change your casino license because I have a Pennsylvania casino license. Oh, wow. It's kind of like nursing where you have to go to another state. You have to get a New Jersey casino license. Is it easy to get into being a casino dealer? Yeah.

Nice. It is. Give us a good story of when maybe you played a high hand or maybe someone you met when you were dealing and stuff. Give us a good one.

The big story is the people when they don't leave. Like I was dealing to a guy. I'll tell you a quick story. Very first hand I was dealing four-court poker. The guy won $1,200. Very first hand.

I worked the grave shift 3 a.m. to 11 a.m. And he says, Tom, I don't know what to do. He says, I didn't have a chance to have a cigarette yet. I said, well, if it was me, sir, I'd take my winnings, go to the diner, order steak and eggs, and have your cigarette. I get tapped out. We get breaks every hour, every hour and 20.

20 minutes, I come back. I should have listened to you. Not only did he lose the $1,200, he went into his pocket for more. And I said to him, what were you thinking? He said, I wasn't thinking. But I thought it was my lucky day. The very first hand, I win all this money. I said, fine.

But if you get down to $700, you lost $500, leave. $700 ahead. Yeah, you're 500, leave. Yeah. 700 ahead. Yeah, you're still ahead. But they don't listen. They don't listen. It's an addiction. So how much do you end up losing overall, do you know? I'm not sure.

I forget. But guess what? Gambling is an addiction. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And people get hooked on it, and they don't know when to leave. And I tell them all, you got to know when to leave.

When I gambled, I set a goal. Okay. When you go in there, set a goal. I don't know if you want to win $200. Yeah. When you get to $200, leave. Got it. If you're up $250, play with $250 of their money.

Yeah. Put the $200 in your pocket and you lose, leave. Yeah. Maybe you make it into $350, then put another $100 in your pocket. But eventually, you got to leave because eventually, if you stay too long, they'll get it back. Yeah, the addiction guys probably set goals. It's just I want to win a million, and it takes – Yeah, it's true.

He's an entrepreneur. Yeah, that's all. He's ambitious. It never happened. I tell people, look, you've got to go to the ATM. If I need more chips, they bring them to me. I don't have to go into my pot. They just bring me more money.

That's one thing. If I've got to go to the ATM, I always feel very sad that I have to go to the ATM. So I feel like it's just like, oh, yeah. What do I want to do this for? $10 withdrawal fee, all that. Yeah. Cheeto on the feature. You want to mic?

You want to mic? Oh, he says, yeah, I do, actually. He needs a gambling device. Do you have a cigarette store in our casino? Like $20 a pack. Really? That's crazy. Joe Biden inflation.

And I tell him, don't sit. Thanks, Joey. Biden crazy. Joe Biden inflation. Tell him. Don't say it. Bidenomics. Bidenomics. What radio station are you on? This is going to be on YouTube actually. YouTube? What do you want, Vito? What do you got to say? What I wanted to say was when we did our episode in Oceans, my game check,

the whole entire paycheck I made for this podcast, I blew right then and there in five minutes on a machine. We did a podcast at Oceans Casino in Atlantic City, and he got his part of the check done. Lost it. Yeah. We weren't even done filming yet. I lost it.

Well, that's what happens. Yeah. He's talking to you, Vito. Yeah. When you're up, leave. See, we go to Atlantic City. We go to Wildwood. I'm like, I got to separate.

It's a work trip. I'm not here on vacation. So that one got the best of me. But we're going to win. We go to Atlantic City. We go to Wildwood. I'm like, I got to separate. It's a work trip. I'm not here on vacation. So that one got the best of me. But we're going to win Wildwood. We got to. I would say what Tom said. Set a goal. You hit it.

Get out. If you stay too long, you'll give it back. I love it. What's your favorite casino game? Or what do you think is the best for someone to play? Well, they say. A high percentage, yeah. Other casino dealers tell me that the best games to play are back, they say, now, other casino dealers tell me

that the best games to play are back rack and craps. And there's a reason why. Both games you can play with the house or against the house. Player, banker,

and back rack. Pass, don't pass, and craps. And depending on how it's going, you can bet that. Either or. So, they tell me they're the two best games to play. I do like craps because craps, you play bet that. Either or. So they tell me they're the two best games to play.

I do like Krabs because you play as a team, basically. Right. Now, Blackjack, if you know how to play, is a good game to play. If you can count cards like yourself. You gotta know how to play. Yeah, exactly. And you gotta play basic strategy. Yeah, I know Blackjack's at the highest percentage one. People don't know, when you got a soft 18 against a deal or 10,

you're supposed to hit that. People will stay. I say, you've got eight. Eight or 18. And 18s are losing hands against a 10, a 20. You've got to figure a deal has a 10 underneath. So why would you stay on a soft 18? You might get a two or a three.

But people stay. If you don't know what you're doing, I'm sure people at the table will let you know real quick. I've experienced that. When you don't know what you're doing, people at the table will let you know what you're doing wrong real quick. People get mad. They get very mad. Well, the most important is the anchor seat. People get mad at the anchor.

Where's the anchor seat? It's the last seat. Got it. It's the sixth seat. So that's an important position for everybody. Coming out, when I play, I like playing first out of the shoe because nobody can affect you. The first card's coming out.

Except the anchor can. Yeah, well, the anchor can, but the first card coming to shoot it doesn't, and then, you know, you get your card before anybody else, and you hit before anybody else. So I think that's a good way to go. But like I said, set a goal and when you get the hell when you get ahead, leave.

Alright, Tom. Alright guys, good talking to you. Thank you so much. Alright everybody, hey, that's the pod for today. Thank you to Wildwood. Thank you to Seaport Pier who let us sit in front of their bar. If you're coming out here, go there. Please, yeah, they're the best, dude.

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