Men At Work Podcast - Mailman Witnessed a Murder and Was Told to Finish His Shift
Episode Date: August 21, 2024Kyle Pagan and Matt Peoples are feeling mindful and demure while their identity could be stolen outside one of the best cheesesteak joints in Philadelphia to record this episode. We talk to the great ...customers of Shank's Original. One of the them is a gig economist who used to be a mailman, but had to quit because of a traumatic experience. Another guy tells us about working in sales for Sherwin Williams, the unlikely painting job that makes the most money, and why the paint business will never die. A new Med Spa owner surprises us with all the different wellness services she provides and spills the beans on the new trend in wellness everyone is starting. Finally, the owner of Shank's, Ed Brennan, tells us how hard it is running a business, his inspiring story, and the best cheesesteaks in Philly. Go support Shank's at 901 S Christopher Columbus Blvd, Philadelphia, PA ! 00:00 - Mindful & Demure/Stolen Identities/Pedo Simps 26:30 - Gig Economist/Mailman 44:30 - Sherwin Williams Salesman 55:06 - MedSpa Business Owner 1:02:12 - Cheesesteak Shop Owner Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/H6IGUigDs3Q #mailman #podcast #usps Check out our sponsor Thrive Flower! Thrive sells real cannabis products outside of the medical system. They have 9 strains of flower, 6 strains of pre rolled joints, 4 strains of vapes, gummies, and lemonades. They are the first and only company offering same day cannabis delivery within Philly. Order your cannabis at https://thriveflower.com/ and it will be delivered in about an hour. Use code menatwork15 for 15% off orders. Simply choose “same day delivery” during checkout. This applies for Philly residents ONLY. About Us: The Men At Work Podcast asks one question: What do you do for work? After that the conversation flows from there. We’ve met substitute teachers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and more. And we’ll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a baseball game, a bar crawl, casino, and more. We like to find out what people do for a living. If you want us to come to your event email us at: menatpodcast@gmail.com APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/men-at-work-podcast/id1373108039 SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4XcFWt0I6gFvMotqDp5bsZ?si=2273debc08e5485d If you want more bonus content from every episode check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ Follow Kyle: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb Follow Vito: https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en
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Three, two, oh boy, one.
Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work podcast.
I'm Kyle Pegg, and as always, joined by Matt Peoples.
Matt, where are we today?
We're at Shanks, dude.
Shanks in Philly on Columbus Boulevard.
And we're here, dude, inspecting the cheesesteak game.
We're keeping this thing pushing, dude.
Look, we talked about it beforehand, and we're a little excited. All of our friends from the furry episode, thanks this thing pushing, dude. We talked about it beforehand and we're a little excited.
All of our friends from the furry episode,
thanks for hanging out, dude. We're happy
to meet you. Happy to hang out with you guys.
Me and Kyle, we're talking about the nerves that we have
now beforehand. Oh, boy. I'm actually nervous
filming this podcast. Once you go insanely
viral, it's not fun.
Yeah. Because you just feel like everyone's watching you
where they're not watching you at all. Yeah.
This one will probably just... I think we're up to like 15 000 views on last episode thank
you so much to our four-legged friends and our furry friends appreciate and everyone else who
might not be into furries who just wanted to watch furry content we appreciate you but man man it's
like you have some like it's like you just put all this pressure on yourself this is what mj felt
like at the fail line this has got to be this is probably michael me and you are right now are
michael jordan game six in Utah.
And we're trying to figure out how we're closing this bad boy out so we can go home and drink and gamble.
I love it.
I love it. Is this our flu game?
This is our flu.
This is after the flu game, dude.
It's us trying to hit that final shot to close this thing out.
Yeah.
So we're at Shank's Original.
Thanks to the people at Shank's Original for letting us out here.
And if you are new to this podcast, which a lot of you freaking are, we're just called Men at Work.
And what we do is we go around to different parts of the city of Philadelphia and beyond.
And we ask people what they do for a living and kind of let the conversation go from here.
The people of Shanks were really nice to let us on Columbus Ave right here, Delaware Ave right here.
They were nice to let us sit out here and annoy their customers and talk to some of their people in there.
So that's what we do.
We're looking forward to it.
That's what we do, baby.
It's not all furry conventions and horsing around.
Sometimes it's getting nitty and gritty with the cheesesteaks, dude.
Yeah.
So what's going on before we get into it?
Same crud every damn day.
I've been very cutesy.
I've been very demure lately, as TikTok has informed me.
Have you seen the trend?
Yeah, it's interesting.
I don't really understand it.
I don't really understand the internet now in 2024.
Yeah.
But I'm with it, dude.
You want to do cutesy? You want to do demure? Very, very mindful. It just bugged me because I
had to Google demure because it's like, it's one thing to not know what a trend's about,
but it's also to not know what the word means. Really shut me down last night, dude.
What does it mean? I think it just means like when your girlfriend just keeps buying stuff
for your apartment and she doesn't tell you and she just buys it. And then she says, Hey,
just split it with me. It's $'s 200 each and then you find that out and
then you're hemorrhaging money and she goes yeah but it's cutesy and it's demure i think it's
something like that what did your girlfriend just recently buy oh my god last night she put together
but this is the other thing like i will say the one the balance that we have is that she builds
the furniture in the apartment what do you do uh? Last night I had six Miller Lights and I watched her do it.
What's she building?
Like Ikea furniture?
Or are we talking like more complex?
No, Wayfair, which...
Don't get me into that.
I said, you better make sure that's a TV unit.
Is that hard to build Wayfair?
Is that harder than Ikea?
Well, Wayfair has a checkered past.
Do you remember that time about the Wayfair stuff?
That wasn't true, though.
Yeah, well, you would say that, dude.
You would say that.
You listen to the internet.
You believe everything
on the internet.
Are you talking about
the trafficking thing?
Yes.
Well, I just got us
demonetized for this episode.
Okay, first five.
But you're talking
about the whole,
what was it?
It was industrial-sized
cabinets, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
And I think that
it probably is bologna and cheese,
but it's just like
the prices were
a little weird either way.
So this had no kids were in this TV unit, but she bought a pink TV unit, which she was like, she hits me with it.
She's good at it, dude.
You guys just moved in.
Yeah.
You got a pink TV unit?
Yeah.
We had another one.
We bought a couch and the next day we were going to pick it up.
And like only hours before she was like, hey, I just measured the living room.
It's not going to fit at all.
We have to cancel.
So now my living room
is just a wide open space
for fun-ass activities,
but I would like to have a couch in there.
What do you sit in,
like soccer mom chairs and stuff?
Not like Love Island?
Nothing at all.
I just lay down
in like a starfish formation.
You don't even have
like an air mattress or anything
you can lay down on?
Nothing.
Dude, my roommate still lives with us
and he's like,
sick, no couch, cool.
What happened to the other couch?
We gave it to him. But he still lives there. Give there give it back well he's got a new house now which i wanted to ask you about this are you like one of the guys where they're they talk about
uh oh help me move this saturday i'll give you beer and pizza no i don't agree with that i think
after a certain age you shouldn't be doing the beer and pizza bit because it's like at some point
it's like you're what 28 sure how old your roommate 28 yeah full-time job yeah pay movers that sucks i'm
sorry it sucks but pay movers and and half the time a little uh little tidbit for everybody out
there half the time you have a friend your friend has a connection to like a penske or a u-haul or
something else where they can get you like 20 off movers yeah so try that out maybe network better
dude you're preaching to the choir.
The whole pizza and beer thing,
I was over that when I was like 17.
Yeah.
My aunts and uncles would ask me like,
hey, I'll give you some pizza,
I'll give you a couple beers.
And I'm like,
I've never done cardiovascular activity
and been like,
you know what would simmer me down now?
Three slices of a plane
with a goddamn Miller Lite.
That would crush me.
Carrying a couch up the stairs
and your reward is pizza
and beer? Probably some shitty beer
and some shitty pizza from around the corner of this
nice place? No.
Pay for the movers. It's just easier
too. The next time I
move somebody in the house, it better be
my child going to college. Really?
Yeah. My dad and all,
he had a couple friends that came down and helped out with
us moving into college. Then you always your like three roommates that you're living with
and their dads come or their moms come and stuff.
So it's like,
it's a lot easier when that happens.
And then you also have like,
if it's your first day of school,
you have those other people who they employ who are like the weirdos,
uh,
ambassadors for the college that like you think are really cool when you first
start.
And then like,
and then you like hang out with them at a party because they all try to like
hit on all the young girls and everything.
And like, yeah, this guy's a little weird. And there's a reason why he's a senior being an ambassador for freshmen. I totally agree. And you asked that guy and then you like hang out with them at a party because they all try to like hit on all the young girls and everything and like yeah this guy's a little weird
and there's a reason
why he's a senior
being an ambassador
for freshmen
I totally agree
and you ask that guy
and you're like
dude are you fucked up
and he's like
I don't even drink
and it's like
oh it's worse
it's actually worse now
I will say
are you uh
I mean like
that's kind of a good point
that I think you're raising
is that the pizza and beer
of moving people
only works
if you like
hanging out with the dudes
like if I moved all day
and it was like my boy
but if it's your
if it's your pals.
I might be a shitty friend, but if my best friend came and said,
hey, dude, here's some Miller Lite.
Here's some Domino's.
Have at it, dude.
Let's go move this 100-pound couch with a steel frame in it
because it has a pullout.
Of three flights of stairs.
Like, do you have an elevator?
No?
Oh, this is fucking amazing.
True, but it doesn't have to be Dominezis, dude.
What if it's like a nice, like,
it's just some dumb Italian dude's name and a pizza.
All pizza tastes the same.
Wow, that is a scolding hot take.
I mean, unless you're like the big box stores, like your pizza, your Domino's.
Oh, look at you, dude.
And you're not like your corner stop.
I think all pizza tastes the same.
Well, what's your go-to pizza?
Like, what's your number one?
You're a Philly guy.
Whatever is around the corner for me.
Wow.
Like, if I'm going out of my way, I'll go to like an Angelo's or I'll go to,
no, I'm a big corner pizza guy.
Give me the corner spot.
I'm the same way with like Philadelphia and it actually works
because we're on cheesesteaks today.
Sure.
Your cheesesteaks,
I'm going to get killed for this.
Your cheesesteaks
at your corner Italian joint
are just as good as your Pat's,
your Gino's,
your, maybe not Angelo's,
your Shank's Originals, your like, they're not Angelo's, your Shank's Originals.
You're like they're all good.
OK.
Some of them do suck.
But most of the time in Philadelphia, you're going to find a cheesesteak that is good or better at your local joint than you are at one of the joints that like they tell you to go.
Like the Alessandra sucks.
Really?
You're calling them out right now?
They've become trash since the pandemic.
So they used to be good and you don't like them now? No, I went to them when I was
in high school and I thought they were really good. And then I
went probably about a couple years ago
and I was like, this is trash. I'd go to the
chubbies place, I think it's called, across the street. I'd rather that.
They have a bar too in there. So it's like,
people suck. Sorry, Delessandros. You suck.
They are mean. Somebody from New Jersey. I don't understand
why you have to be so goddamn mean to me and why I get
hard from it. I don't understand why those two things have to
happen when you're like, what's the order?
And I'm like, bro.
Yeah.
Delos Andrews is going way downhill.
But you don't think like there's an attachment
that you have, like a cheesesteak place
or a pizza place,
that it's not even about the food,
it's like the nostalgic memories maybe,
like you went somewhere growing up
and you're like, this is the number one place
because my dad took me after baseball.
Nothing like that?
Matt, you're from South Jersey, dude.
Yeah.
It's not like you were playing ball across the street from Pat's at Capitola Playground.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of SJ, dude.
You play baseball.
Were you playing in Canyon?
Were you going to Donkeys?
Like, what was going on?
No, I was taking a risk here.
Oh, I remember when Pop Pop took me to Donkeys in between drive-bys.
Yeah, we would duck and we'd keep playing, dude.
Sorry we ball like that.
But, I mean, I'll give you an equally hot take. I'm going to cut you off for a second. Yeah, let would duck and we'd keep playing. Sorry we ball like that. But I mean, I'll give you an equally hot take.
I'm going to cut you off for a second.
Yeah, let me hear.
My fundamental childhood memories of food is going to the Applebee's after Saturday Mass
and playing those little cool blue game that they used to have, the trivia game on the TVs.
That's my fundamental memory.
I don't know if something happened when I was younger. Oh, it did. But I have so many memories that I don't know if something happened when I was younger.
Oh, it did.
But I have so many memories that I don't even remember before the age of 10.
Okay, first of all, that is a tragically sad story on nine different angles.
Yeah, dude.
You're an Applebee's kid, which is pretty sick.
I hate to say it.
I was an Outback State kid.
Yeah.
But the fact that you don't remember
there's like large swaths of your childhood you can't even call back on right now it's really all
just based around sports like i remember my i remember vividly my team going 21 and 0 travel
baseball shout the montgomery wolverines and 12 and we're the first travel baseball team 12 years
u12 to go undefeated won the championship I remember going 11 for 11 in Cal Ripken Park in Baltimore during a tournament.
I remember getting absolutely murdered
by Newman Goretti in high school basketball
by 40 every single time we played him.
And then we'd go to patch stakes after.
I guess I just resonate with sports memories
and everything else I've just blocked out.
That's pretty fair. I can agree with that.
But sports memories, I guess it's because you were probably good at them.
You're not going to believe this.
I wasn't the best athlete.
The only sports memory I remember is that one time I was playing baseball
and I didn't want to play, and a kid found out that if you run into the guy
with the ball, you don't necessarily get tagged out or something like that.
Is that a rule?
I don't think that's real.
So you were told that if you run into the kid with the ball and he drops the ball, you're not out?
Well, I was the kid with the ball.
And I had a young, small Italian boy run full speed into me.
And he hit me so hard that I fell in my pants, rubbed against the sand.
You won't get this, but you got Albert Bell.
What is that?
You got Albert Bell.
Well, did his pants come down and his ass rubbed on the sand?
Albert Bell.
Forget who it was.
He fucking hit stick the shit out of this guy at second.
So it's a thing.
Yeah, but he was still out.
From when?
How long ago was this?
This was like the 90s.
Oh, this was probably the early 2000s.
I came with you to show you this.
I don't want to see it.
I don't want to relive it.
I'm telling you, the kid ran full speed into my chest.
I fell backwards in front of like a packed audience.
It was like one of those Thursday Under the Lights games.
And my pants came down and my bare ass rubbed on the sand dude get a bell dude i had a
belt and i just had a skinny little slim waist i was very demure and uh these are when the boys
used to play baseball baby bro for real that's pretty similar dude yeah no look at albert bell
compared to that second baseman but dude that's just baseball he's breaking up he's breaking up
a double play and albert bell was a huge asshole. You ever talk to that Italian kid who hit you?
No, not at all.
He hit me and then they didn't call him out.
And then I had to pull my...
There's no way you could talk shit.
They didn't call him out?
No.
Did you have the ball in your hand?
Not even close.
And the ball was in the glove?
I thought it was in my hand.
I know I thought I caught the ball and I was near the base.
I don't think I was on base.
And he was probably on there before me.
But I'm telling you, I got smacked so far backwards.
The pants came down.
My bare ass.
My bare nine-year-old ass. Pale. Disuck rubbed against the sand and i got it i remember i
had it on my crack when i got home and i was so embarrassed but there's no way and kyle there's
no way to talk shit when you're getting up pulling your damn dungarees back off
sliding shorts on or a cup no i had underwear on and no cup now i thought the cup made my penis
feel weird as a kid oh Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't think
unless you're catching
I don't think like
below the age of 10
you should be wearing
a cup.
It's just weird.
I agree.
Yeah.
But whatever that
wherever that kid is
I hope he didn't
open a corner pizza
store that Kyle
goes to now.
Oh Italian bastard.
Yeah.
I got laid out.
Dude you'd baboon
cheeks from this
nine year old kid.
I got home and I
took like my ninth
watery diarrhea the
day and there was
sand in there and I was like come on. Oh my God. Yeah man. Yeah. I got home and I took like my ninth watery diarrhea of the day and there was sand in there.
And I was like, come on.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
Speaking of mindful and demore.
Your ID stone?
Identity?
I am waiting for the message that says like there's been another data leak.
But this one seems bad.
Are you talking about the one that's on the news right now?
Yeah. For anyone that doesn't know, the National Public Data Trust or whatever it's called,
they're being sued right now in an antitrust lawsuit.
Not an antitrust lawsuit.
What's the lawsuit that we all get together and we get like $2 from Uber off of?
Oh, like a-
Class action?
Yeah, class action.
Yeah, class action lawsuit against the company for apparently hackers got 3 billion people's identity.
Yeah. And I read actually a Washington Post article and they said, yeah, no need to worry about it Apparently hackers got 3 billion people's identity.
And I read actually a Washington Post article and they said, yeah, no need to worry about it because, dude, your identity is already out there.
That's a good point.
Which is hilarious to think about.
Like, yeah, no need to worry because your identity has been floating in the ether for 10, 20 years.
The thing that I saw was like the hackers were only selling it for like $3.5 million.
And there was like millions of lines of stuff. So people were like, this could be somebody's leaked data from 30 years ago. It could be someone's leaked data
from 30 days ago and stuff. Your data could be on there, but it also could be a credit card that
you haven't had in five years. But they were selling the entire bundle of all the information
for $3.5? So that's another red flag right there. Would you ever want to know your valuation if you
were part of that bundle? I know my valuation.
Check my bank account.
That's your valuation, dude.
It's your credit, dude.
It's not the bank.
It's not what's in your account.
It's what's in your heart and your credit score.
I don't even know what my FICO score is.
I know it's good, so I don't really ever check it, but I always get the email saying, like,
your points went down two points.
I'm like, who gives a shit?
I don't know what that means.
I just bought a fucking tuxedo for $1 dollars oh my god what the fuck are you serious yeah dude
holy crud dude dude i'm wearing that thing till for the next two decades i don't care how much
i gotta you might have to wear it on the pod every single time oh by the way you're getting
invited to the meeting dude what did i tell you guys dude i said if you stay consistent you stay
strong and you bully your friend you can get invited to their wedding. I just found
that out. Let's go. I know that's
Cass helping out. I'm not going to tell him, but Cheeto's
getting invited, though. Oh, my. Don't invite
it. Don't ruin my invite with Cheeto's
invite. Cheeto's your plus one.
That's pretty good. I'd be pretty sick, dude. I might hook up
with Vito. I can't believe you're getting invited.
You are. It wasn't my decision.
I'm telling you, it was not my decision.
I said, why?
She goes, yeah, we're going to invite Matt, and we probably should invite cheetah i said why that's the first thing i
said why that is very demure dude you guys invited me very demure i don't like the fact that i know
i know how you are so i can imagine how uh your wonderful fiance is who's a great woman just being
like we probably have to do it.
There's no excitement.
Whatever, dude.
We're in there like swimwear.
God bless.
Better fucking be a good gift.
A great gift, dude.
What better gift than... What are you going to get me?
Continued teamwork,
camaraderie,
co-workership
that has turned into friendship.
Nice.
No, I'll come up with something
pretty sick, actually.
I'm pretty excited about this now.
Give me your pants. It's pretty sweet, dude. I'll invite you to whatever you want to come to i have nothing that's ever gone on in my entire life but whatever it is you're invited to back
to your identity yeah my identity my identity if i found out my valuation was like two bucks that
would hurt pretty bad i mean it's probably nothing to like really write home about what are you like
your your 20s no it's not even financial i just would hope that they would like think about like oh he's a hard worker he's a cool guy like if you come over
his house he's always like do you want to drink can i get something to eat like i want them to
factor in other aspects of my personality brother man you're in the wrong country you got to go over
to china dude you want a social you want a social credit score like you're talking that's a good
point he's a cool dude damn maybe china has it figured out the social credit score if you factor
in like obviously i'm not doing well financially.
I'm doing a podcast out front of the water at a cheesesteak place.
But otherwise, I'm a pretty cool guy to hang out with.
I'll get you a beer if you sit down.
I'll get the first round.
I don't play Xbox, but if you do, when you come over, we'll play it together.
So we're both not video game guys?
No, I hate video games.
Dude, how bad has this summer been for us?
Between, like, college football being re-released, which is a big deal.
Backyard Sports looks like they're coming back.
I know, yeah.
We are totally on the out.
Every time I see a new Call of Duty get released, I always get sad.
Every time NBA 2K or Madden gets released.
Madden hasn't been good since 2005 with Ray Lewis on the cover and the hit stick.
But I do feel left out.
Yeah.
I never really got into video games.
What I should have did was invented Twitch because I loved watching people play video games. I don't know why I liked it, but I'd rather do it. Yeah. Like I did, I never really got into video games. What I should have did was invented Twitch
because I loved watching people
play video games.
I don't know why I liked it
but it was just,
I'd rather do it.
I don't know.
I am the same exact way.
I never liked video games
but as soon as I saw like
Skyrim walkthrough part one,
I was like,
give me that right now.
Are you more of a role player game guy?
Like the role player.
I like to pretend
I wasn't Matt for a little bit
because, you know,
clearly hasn't been working out
but,
no, I'm kidding.
I'm a whoreson dude.
My social credit score,
I can't even talk like that.
That's going to be a couple points down
for stumbling.
Yeah, true.
I cannot talk.
But yeah, dude,
it's been tough to be video game guys.
What's your go-to
when like a bunch of your boys
are playing video games?
Do you sit off to the side
or do you try and play
and like push through?
Dude, I can't even tell you
the last time I've been around
people playing video games.
Really?
Yeah, the last video game I actually bought was, I think, Madden 2007 with Brett Favre on the cover when he was Vikings.
And then they re-released it because he got traded to the Jets.
Yeah.
And I think he was the Jets on the cover.
And I went to Epsican, New Jersey in Atlantic City to go get it.
And we went outside in the most hood place ever.
And I was like, I'm literally going to get my Madden
and give it away to somebody.
Really?
Yeah,
Absieken, New Jersey?
Yeah.
Place is a shithole.
I think it's a nice place.
Is it not?
I thought that's like a shore town.
That's a beautiful place, dude.
Absieken?
Absieken.
You're talking about Absieken.
Right outside of Atlantic City.
Yeah.
You think Atlantic City's beautiful too?
No, I agree with you.
I'm on your team.
I'm on your team with this one.
I just, I didn't,
I mean, I thought,
look, I never went that far about getting a game
just to immediately be charitable, but I, at least in retrospect, I just.
Charitable.
Yeah.
Well, it was nice, dude.
You got to pat yourself on the back every once in a while.
What are you talking about?
I was talking about the guys outside the store, the GameStop store stealing it.
Oh, I thought you were doing something nice.
No.
Oh, yeah.
I guess you would get roughed up.
True.
Dude, if I saw your candy ass walking out of a GameStop, I'm saying give me it and stop calling it Absicon.
Some of my favorite videos are the ones where the kid's walking through the hood with a PS5.
Yeah.
And it's an empty box of a PS5.
And these guys just run up on them, like, show their Glock and then, like, steal it from them.
He's like, dude, it's empty.
And then they're like, damn.
You just see, like, just the agony wash over their face.
That would make you more likely to get shot, though.
If the guy who stole it opened the box and he's like, come on, dude.
Because this guy puts up a little bit of a fight, too.
And you're like, what are you doing, dude?
It's a prank.
Stop with the prank shit.
Yeah.
By the way, and we're probably going to have to cut this
because I don't want to sympathize with pedos.
Okay, please, by all means.
We were just at a furry convention now we were sympathizing with
pedos we're getting close dude has has the catch a predator content got out of control
kyle we're keeping it because yes it has dude i don't need like like i love what everyone's doing
out there like catch the predators catch the fucking predators get these fucking scumbags
off the street these low-life guys that should get the chair get them off the street
agreed do i need acon saying locked up when you get them though like i don't think i do
like i think i just need chris hansen to come back and be like hey take a seat i mean that's what
that was and i did if i have to watch some for by the way there's the vitality guy whatever and
look big one obviously we're a couple of big content creators here now.
Not, you know, starting to be.
We're on Vitaly's level.
What's up, Vitaly?
First of all, if you're going to slap the dude, you better be from America.
Yeah.
Okay?
First and foremost.
If you're slapping pedos in America, you got to be an American dude.
Otherwise, it seems like you're just kind of like fishing for gold.
I mean, I'm not going to lie. Like, it made me sad that the guy who created Space Jam is a pedo.
Yeah.
It sucks.
Yeah.
It sucks. I. It sucks.
I agree.
I agree.
And it's awful, obviously.
And again, pedophilia is the worst possible thing you can do.
Get in the fucking chair.
But there is an innate human response to when you see a dork in the wild,
you're immediately on the dork side.
And all these pedos are the dorks in a Walmart being like,
so this is what happened here.
Do you want to have to say anything about it?
And they start running and they run like dorks.
And nothing ever works out even remotely in their favor.
So every single video I have it in the back of my head that I'm a little bit sympathetic to these people.
And that's their fault.
I don't want to be sympathetic to the fucking people.
Yes, I agree.
I agree.
But when you're getting Akon on here and when you're fucking right up to this dude's face, it's like, could we just like get the cops involved?
Can we call one goddamn cop?
Can we just get like a security guy?
That is a good point.
It's like,
I would never sympathize with a pedo.
And then they were like,
well,
what if I made a list of a million things
that would make you sympathize?
I'd go,
no.
But then they land on one thing.
It's like,
what if Akon was singing behind him
and they actually were enjoying each other's company
for a couple seconds
and that guy felt like,
oh my God,
nothing's ever gone right in my life. Finally,
Akon singing with me. And then we come in and we're like, we knew you're trying to bang a kid.
That would crush me. Oh, my God. And what is Akon doing? Like, does he need the money that bad?
Doesn't he own a country? I thought he owns a country, but he also might have evaded taxes and
went to jail for tax evasion. So I can't really keep up with the whole with the whole Akon thing.
He had like this weird investment back in the day where he was basically like i'm bringing i think cell phones cell phones or internet to
the entire country of ghana i think it was because that's where he's from or a country in africa yeah
and like i'm pretty sure he had like billions and billions of dollars invested in it yeah and he was
just like i've got no fucking plan so like econ's not the greatest dude he's not the shitty pedo but he's not the greatest dude either
like
so you think
so like
so you're saying Akon
scotts-totsed
the country of Ghana
he made big promises
he couldn't follow through on
yeah he's probably like
I'm gonna bring you a Nokia
you guys are gonna have
Snake for days
and then he was like
by the way
I'm taking that
and I'm running
and I'm putting on a tour
also he went to
he went to jail for he, that Locked Up song,
he didn't know that girl was under 18 in the club and he was hooking up with her.
Great. I didn't even think about that.
Which I also don't think is right that Akon should have went to jail for that
because when you're in the club and you have bouncers that are supposed to check IDs
to make sure girls are 18 to 21, it's kind of a slippery slope there.
Again, don't want to, I don't know if he's a, or he's a... Again, we're not accusing Big Ake about anything, dude.
David Akers, you're good with us.
David Acon.
But I will say,
if you've ever been around a 18-year-old girl,
the first thing in your head goes,
that's a little kid.
You can tell when it's a young child.
Yes.
So just head home, dude.
Go back home.
Yeah, dude.
Throw on the new college football game.
Yeah.
Stop kissing kids.
It's true.
That's our big platform.
Stop kissing kids and go play video games.
Quit kissing kids. Go home. Play video games. Say the N-word on Xbox Live.
Unless you're Dr. Disrespect. Another guy.
Yeah, that guy actually double dabbed. He actually got double jeopardy, which he said, look, I'm doing both. You can't catch me.
Yeah, you can't catch me.
He turned it on Chris Hansen.
Dude, that is...
You can't catch me. I didn't do nothing wrong.
I can't believe that, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah, the pedo stuff.
And dude, stop making content around pedophiles, dude.
If you're not Chris Hansen, stop doing it.
Like, you're making me sympathize with these guys, and I feel dirty doing it.
Yeah, I agree.
I will say, my favorite cope that the pedo dudes have, again, we hate these guys.
We're going to keep reinforcing it.
But a lot of times, they'll be like, look, I came here to meet up with this girl to explain what she's doing is wrong and
then the go-to line of the catchers is always like you know on page four we can see you sent
a picture of your flaccid penis and it's like god damn it they always bring the shittiest alcohol
too yeah like if they just brought like a case of milwaukee's best or like bush light yeah i think
some people would be like you know what that's pretty. But it's always like Zima wine coolers
and like Mike's Hard.
It's like the ultimate like pedo drink.
And that's why I feel like people don't drink
Mike's Hard or Zima anymore
because that was like the ultimate,
like I'm bringing this 14-year-old girl a drink.
You see what you're saying?
It's a little Mike's Hard?
Dude, if fucking White Claw
ever becomes the pedo drinker choice,
they're fucked.
Yeah, I mean White Claw.
White Claws.
Yeah, true. Dude, if Stateside becomes the pedo drinker choice they're fucked they're yeah i mean high noon white sides yeah true the state dude if stateside becomes the peanut pedo drink i'm gonna be so
fucking angry we're cooked yeah i love the statesides yeah uh well i can't imagine first
of all they're so goddamn expensive which again stateside we'd love to by the way stateside please
let us come to your place and do a podcast but otherwise lower the darn cost guys yeah they are
fucking expensive we're just a couple of run-of-the-mill guys yeah yeah that is pretty funny to think about like every single one
you see on like the chris hansen it's always like a pizza and like mike's hard which like by the way
i could get fucked by uh one of these dudes that would get to my heart i'd be like that is so nice
that you went out of your way to two different places by the way picked up pizza got a six pack
of my card it's true i'll pose as a little that might be the new move if you're like short on cash but you need to drink pose as pose as a little boy and then invite these
guys to your house do the little boy act as long as you can smash the mics hard and then be like
i'm 29 that might be the move dude if you're low on cash pose the kid get a couple mhs rip some
pizza and then be like dude dude, I'm 29.
Dude, this is crazy.
But then if you guys get along, get a bar.
He's like, ew.
Ew.
Oh, and be like, look, don't be weird.
There's a corner bar down the street.
Do you want to come?
Next thing you know, you have a friend with a checkered past.
Did we just miss the entire lunch rush?
Yeah, I think we just kept, yeah.
Did we just vamp for like 20-odd minutes and just miss the entire lunch rush because we're just idiots?
I hear you, Vito.
Dude, it's not on you, dude.
It's on us.
Vito.
We're just a bucket full of nerves right now because we have so many new people watching the YouTube and joining the TikTok.
We pulled Vito.
By the way, we should say we pulled Vito out of vacation mode.
He came all the way from vacation to come film this pod.
So you got to get up from, dude.
He was out on vacation. He was at a roller skating rink doing backwards advanced skating
uh putting on fast music and he left that to come here that's awesome veto yeah that's so cool
yep one day we're gonna get veto a wireless mic so that he can chime in from over there but i
think he'd be too drunk with power he did get a little bit of a glory hound but i i did think
about and i wanted to run this by you and now i run it by veto on time i think if we do like a too drunk with power. He did get a little bit of a glory hound, but I did think about it
and I wanted to run this by you
and now I'll run it by Vito on time.
I think if we do like a
five to two minute Vito recap
at the end of our episode,
because after watching
his recap last time,
it's just him being like,
everything was good.
I had a good time.
You guys don't even know
what I deal with behind the camera.
Behind the music, Vito.
Yeah, dude, you got dominated
by the furries.
That was rough.
R-U-F-F.
Is that a...
That's Tyler, the creator.
No, this is Ben Simmons' agent.
Is this Rich Paul?
Is this Rich Paul?
Yeah, I think it might be Richie Paul.
What's up, man?
How are you?
What's up, bro?
How you doing, man?
Come on the pod.
Wherever you want to sit.
Sit on this side because we have headphones for you.
What's up, man? How are you? What's your first name? My name is Chris. Wherever you want to sit. Sit on this side because we have headphones for you. What's up, man?
How are you?
What's your first name?
My name is Chris.
Chris?
Yes, sir.
Nice.
I'm Kyle.
This is Matt.
What's up, man?
Pleasure.
We're the Men Who Work podcast.
We ask people what they do for a living.
Okay.
And we just go around places, random places like Shank's Original.
What do you do for a living?
Well, right now, I have two ways to make money.
I do Rody, which is a company through UPS.
Basically, same-day delivery for anything,
and you don't have to package it.
Wow.
So mainly, lately, I've been doing a lot of luggage delivery.
I'm not sure if you heard about Delta in the news recently.
Yeah, we have.
Delta's screwed.
Tell us about that a little bit.
What's going on with Delta?
I'm not really keen on exactly what's going on.
We'll fill in the blanks.
As much as you know.
A lot of luggage that hasn't reached its destination when it should have.
How long ago was this?
I believe like two weeks.
Is this because of the CrowdStrike shutdown?
I think it's all bleeding together, right?
Like all the plane issues is also bleeding into like all the issues with luggage.
Is that about right?
Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
Basically.
So as well as I've been doing a lot of luggage deliveries for them.
Yeah.
And I also have been doing Instacart.
I haven't been doing it as much, but that was my main source of income for all of us.
So this Rody app, I'm guessing it is?
Yes, it is.
Is it a pretty lucrative deal?
Because like people like probably don't even know about it.
So the rates have got to be pretty good, right?
It can be.
Depends on distance.
I'll say it depends on distance and time of day.
Got it.
Because pay typically goes up when it gets later.
And if you're going like Harrisburg, then of course they're going to pay more.
Damn, you're going that far?
Yeah, sometimes.
Where's the farthest you've been?
About three hours, 15 minutes out.
And still in Pennsylvania, but I'm not even familiar with what part it was.
That was prescription delivery.
So they do prescriptions, luggage.
This place is called Rhodey?
Rhodey.
It's not a physical place.
It's just a nap.
I bring Rhodeys every time I drive, but that's kind of a different thing.
R-O-A-D-I-E.
Yeah, same spelling.
That's crazy, man. How'd you hear about it? Hmm, how did I hear about it? but that's not it's kind of a different thing r-o-a-d-i-e oh yeah same same spelling that's
crazy man how'd you hear about it hmm how did i hear about it um i think it was just like a
random search because at one point i love on-demand uh type jobs where i can log on and
log off as i please yeah the gig economy yeah exactly exactly so uh i was just searching those
type apps at one point in time and i found quite a few. And that one was one that stuck, basically.
So back to the Delta thing, I mean, it seems like planes are just losing their minds right now.
Like, flights are delayed, all these different issues.
Like, what do you think the primary issue is with the luggage deliveries?
What would you guess?
I can't say I'm informed enough to really speak on the topic.
Give us your opinion.
Like, are people pulling the things out and, like, wearing out and wearing the stuff and wearing my coolest T-shirt?
Is that happening?
I have no idea.
I just know there's a lot of luggage that's not where it should be.
Some doesn't meet its connecting flight.
They told me one time I got there that Spirit Airlines flight, Delta representative telling me,
Spirit Airlines flight didn't take off, sat on the runway for six hours.
And I guess they canceled or whatever happened.
I don't know the technicality.
But they end up having to process their luggage.
So we were delivering Delta airline and Spirit Airlines luggage to where it needed to be.
Really?
Well, that's nice.
It all seems connected
because I'm a big thrifter myself
and a lot of the thrifts
I go to,
they say one of their
biggest ways of getting
nicer, higher brand clothes in
is if a bag,
luggage bag goes unclaimed,
it gets sold
to these thrift stores,
like these for-profit
thrift stores.
I've been murdering
at the thrifts lately, dude.
I've been finding crazy shit
and I think it's just...
Give us one thing.
Got a YSL tweed jacket not too long ago. Damn! It's unbelievable. I'm telling i've been finding crazy shit and i think it's just give us one thing got a ysl tweet jacket not too long ago damn it's unbelievable i'm telling you this is crazy so i think your guy's misfortune which it's very very sad to hear i've been he's
not misfortune he's making money off of it oh true true i got i got a uh it's not thrift but
i got from uh kohl's recently i had 20 kohl's cash and um they had an 85 off deal on top of the already
sale priced items yeah so this shirt i got for okay let me just say i got three shirts one is a
50 shirt and two 30 shirts i paid three dollars and 24 cent bang dude after 20 for all three for
all that's all total total after the coals cash and the sale prices three dollars you can't be And 24 cent. Bang, dude. After 20. For all three? For all three. That's awesome. Total. Total.
After the Kohl's cash and the sale prices.
$3.
You can't beat Kohl's.
So I'm so interested in this rodeo.
I want to go back to it.
What is like your day to day usually when you're like, like you just go down to the airport and what happens?
Yeah.
So basically they post the delivery details.
One item, three items, however many.
Which company is working for it?
Because you could do Southwest as well.
They also do deliveries.
And you press accept or decline.
You see the details, the pay, the distance, et cetera.
So it's like Uber.
If you want to swipe on the thing, you can.
You swipe, you accept, you head there, press arrive.
You go in, say you're picking up such and such, et cetera.
And pretty much you may have to sign something you may not check off.
How much does Rody take off the top?
I don't know exactly,
but I'm pretty sure they're getting something.
Well,
you have to get something.
Like I think,
I don't know what it is with Uber.
I knew back in the day was probably like 10%.
I don't know.
It's still like that.
It's probably has risen and stuff.
Yeah.
But I'm just like,
man,
I'm just thinking about it.
It's such a,
it's such an awesome idea because like so many people,
and it's just Delta doing it.
It's no one else.
Like you don't go for anyone else.
Southwest does luggage deliveries right now.
Getting your luggage back is a bitch. Nightmare.
I've never had to deal with it, thank God.
Have you? You've had to get your luggage back
after you get home from the flight? Once
my luggage got stuck in Tennessee
and we were home. And you had to come all the way back to Philly
to get it? No, they end up
delivering it to us. How long did it take?
A couple days. Oh, okay. That's actually not us. How long did it take? A couple days.
Oh, okay.
That's actually not bad.
And for you, it's probably not.
Yeah.
I know a lot of times
over Christmas,
it can take two weeks
to get out of someone's luggage.
That's crazy.
But for you,
there's not a big upfront cost.
All the stuff in your luggage,
you probably got for $9 at Kohl's
and you're like,
whatever, dude.
I'll just head back
and hit the sales, dude.
And then Instacart.
Yeah.
Instacart.
I love Instacart.
I've been going there for six years.
I hate Instacart.
I was one of the first shoppers when they first started it up.
You still like it?
I love the service.
I don't love the pay.
Now it's a lot more work for a lot less pay.
That's what they do.
That's what Uber did.
Uber was like, come here, dude.
You can make like $75,000.
You're $100,000.
We're going to put the taxis out of business.
Postmates did it.
Caviar has done it.
It's happening with DoorDash.
It seems crazy.
Well, I'm sorry.
I'm hearing reports.
I'm seeing it on Twitter and everything.
They've surveyed a lot of DoorDashers and Instacarters.
And they're like, if the food looks good, about 60% of people will take like a little piece of that have you ever dipped in how do you pack
man pizzas no no no are we sure about this i love my high ratings you ever put you ever put uh
slipped a little item in on someone's tab no like a pack of gum they told me i could but no i haven't
really oh that's nice that's a nice idea they will treat you to like hey you want something to drink yeah yeah that's pretty sweet put it on there but um
i what i have done is i've delivered items to the wrong house i've done that definitely yeah
it was a gated house um it was a long drive and i dropped their items off the person already
started putting them in the refrigerator then i realized it was wrong person's groceries and they had ice cream and stuff and i had to sit on the porch yeah
might have been my house my friend i had the same sex exact same situation happened yeah they were
my groceries i could have used those yeah that's crazy dude now do you ever know you could you
could do like kind of the sickest double dip of all time if you found out that somebody lost their
luggage you got a hold of their luggage and you you did their Instacart, and you brought their groceries and their lost luggage to
their house, you might get hit, dude.
I hope they tip well.
I hope they tip well.
That's a tip.
That's all I'm saying.
You might get hit.
Yeah.
Man, dude.
Have you always been a gig economist?
No.
I've actually done many jobs.
I've worked at Ross, Walmart.
What was your favorite job?
Favorite?
United States Postal Service. Really? Wow. Wow. Rainsley's Snow or Hail, baby. jobs i've worked at ross what was your favorite job favorite united states postal service really rain sleeves snow or hail baby yeah it was hard it was a challenge but it's something i loved on
i love being outside i love no one breathing down my neck or telling me what to do why'd you stop
uh i got a traumatic injury on ah dude don't tell me a dog bite no it wasn't that i witnessed
someone get killed oh fuck okay yeah so were you in the hood
yeah yeah they'll do it to you it was 12 20 p.m they didn't care 12 20 p.m people walking around
everything it was did they did usps at least take care of you a little bit for the dramatic no no
they put me through the ringer i had to basically chase and fight for what i felt like i deserved and ultimately
it got to a point where i was like you know what screw it you guys aren't getting me out to safety
because i didn't feel safe where i was that's unbelievable to safety i had to fight for to
get compensation i said you know what i just throw my hands up damn wow so you just stopped
fighting it just kind of went wow i'm blaming. It sucks that you had to stop fighting. They made promises that they weren't meeting, basically.
And I was in my psychiatrist.
Get them to say, write this recommendation, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm checking off the boxes. OK, I'll get this. OK, I'll get this.
And they just weren't living up to what they say they would do.
Oh, my God.
I'm guessing you're like around like Philadelphia when you're doing mail stuff.
Yeah, I was.
Well, you get loaned out to sister stations as they call them but my main station was 191
20 and 40 that's so that's so close to my zip code i'm not gonna get my zip code out but
that's so close you're north philly i was yeah 1911 baby yeah northeast yeah damn dude wow
that's awful that they wouldn't give you any kind of thing i mean did they at least give you a
couple days off after to just detox and process?
You know, when I called in frantic when this was going on, they told me move down and keep the liver.
Oh, my God.
Rain, snow, sleet, hail, murder.
That's unbelievable.
I mean, not to as much.
They basically showed me they didn't care.
I was like, okay.
And then I was sent back on the same route the very next day.
Damn.
The same view.
The very next day.
So you got sent out that day.
You witnessed a murder, which is a traumatic, horrific event.
And the next day they said, we'll see you in the same place.
Same exact place.
I was walking up to the guys as this was going down.
Oh, you knew it was going down?
I didn't know what was happening.
I was on the phone, you know, mailman, talk on the phone.
My phone hung up.
In the nick of time i'd pull my phone out
see what's going on why did my phone call drop walking blindly because i'm looking down at my
phone i'm walking up to the guys i say they were what where's the guy going in the door they were
that close and i was right here no drive-by it was just regular shooting i was just standing on
the corner right facing one another and you are you back and back and running away like what's i
mean you don't have to relive any of this one motion look up from my phone seen it happening turned around ran around
the corner hid in a tall grass where abandoned building used to be that's actually impressive
because follow me around elderly man gentleman follow me hidden that's impressive because like
i think a lot of people think they would do that but i think if i was in that situation i would
have just been like in such shock i would just i would just sat there yep and been like holy shit yeah i'm so
sorry yeah that's all we gotta deal with we're laughing they were laughing we ran and hit they
live in the duran laughed that we ran and hit i was that's just sad entertainment for them that's
like yeah that's like a sad societal thing that's like so above this pay grade.
But it's like, damn, that sucks.
Well, that was your favorite job.
I can't imagine what your worst job was.
Ross.
I'm not saving the company.
Did we start why that's your favorite job?
We didn't start why that was your favorite job.
Yeah, he asked what my favorite job was.
Oh.
Well, can you give us maybe, I mean, first of all, again, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
That's horrific.
What was the good parts of just being outside and experiencing everything?
Being outside, the freedom, delivering mail.
Makes people excited.
Dude, you throw some headphones in, then you go to the grocery store.
You probably get that with Instacart.
You get in a group, and it's just autopilot.
You just put mail in the mailboxes and moving on.
How were the dogs?
They were okay. It was more so the cats, believe it or not. No. They try to swipe you through the mailes and moving on. How were the dogs? They were okay.
It was more so the cats, believe it or not.
No.
They try to swipe you through the mail slot.
Fuck them.
And it's supposed to be animal warning cards in your mail, but there weren't.
Wow.
You were missing a lot of things.
Functional vehicles, park points, animal warning cards, a bunch of things.
You just sent out and say, here, take the mail, go deliver.
Sure.
So you were asking about...
Yeah, that was his favorite job.
So yeah, what was...
I mean, Kyle, what was your...
So Ross was your least favorite.
Yeah.
Why do you hate Ross?
Long hours.
Yeah, a lot of work.
Pace sucked.
Fill up a cart.
Nobody shot anyone, sorry.
Two items and then leave.
Right.
Wow.
It wasn't the company, it was the experience.
Sure.
How long...
So how long did you work for USPS versus Ross?
USPS, one year.
Ross, 11 months.
Okay.
So you were on USPS for one year?
One year.
And you saw that within one year?
One year.
You think that's like somebody who's been there for like 25, 30 years will catch something insane?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it wasn't pleasant.
What's something about the male that like the normal average Joe wouldn't know?
It's very dirty.
A lot of hands touch it.
It sits in a lot of places.
And your hands are black after handling it.
No way.
Yeah.
Damn.
Were you apprehensive before you walked out there where you're kind of like,
fuck, I don't really want to do this, but I have to type thing?
See, that time, I think it was like my first time on that route in specific.
So I really didn't know what I was going into.
That was your first time on the route too?
Yeah.
I was, you get, all right, my title was city carrier assistant.
I wasn't a regular.
Right.
No regulars do the same route every single day.
How long does it take to get to become a regular?
Oh, you could be there for a short time.
You could be there for many years.
It's no telling.
It's kind of like a lottery.
Yeah.
So because I was a, you know, I was here, there, and everywhere, I could be going out to a sister station,
or I could just be going a different route every day.
Unless I put a hold down on one route, I would do that route over and over and over and over.
That's if it doesn't have a regular.
Now, the people that you said that have got their established routes that they're on every day,
did you hear any wild stories trying to prepare you for what you might see?
Anything they told you, like, look, this is is how it goes this is what it looks like um not wild stories
but some uh some things that were counter countering what we were taught in safety they
were basically saying telling you to tell the supervisors you're not doing this or you're not doing that because they
have the you know the ability to they they're regulars their grandfather in the system they
don't have any worries but i'm like oh that's my supervisor i gotta listen to him and some things
the supervisors were telling were not what we should be doing like you gotta jump these fences
you gotta run you gotta fill your bag the things that we were told not to do at safety training basically the supervisor was telling us to do what were they telling you if
like a dog would come after you pet it um they want us to rely on the uh bag block put the bag
between you and the dog and hopefully the spray will fend it off but are you guys in spray yeah
dog spray but it worked i never used it i've never heard dog spray did you think about deploying it that day like trying to or you're just like i'm getting out
here i'm not even gonna bother well i just didn't know i would i would that would be the only thing
i would think of is like i know i have one thing to defend myself i'm gonna hit it and just you
think my man was bringing dog spray to a gunfight right basically perhaps perhaps dude i'm sorry to
laugh but i think laughing is the best medicine. Yeah. I agree. Sure.
Well, thank God you're still around.
Yes, I mean, thank God everything worked out and you're happy now. And you got a cool-ass fucking crotch rocket.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's electric.
That's boogie-woogie.
Boogie-woogie.
I thought the same thing.
Dude, we are on a fucking wavelength right now.
I like this shit.
Awesome, man.
Well, hey, thank you for coming by.
No problem.
We really appreciate you.
Can we make one final request?
Sure.
Would you mind riding it in front of the camera, just like a quick skirt buy?
Look at him.
Woo!
Thank you, dude.
Thank you, brother.
Yeah, you too, brother.
I love that guy.
I love that guy.
He's the man.
Such a good perspective on life, that guy.
Everything you said, I was just like, God, I want to hug you.
Yeah.
I like that.
You're a lover, man.
I love that you're a lover.
After I saw people getting booped and hugged, I said, what the crud?
I got to get in on this boop thing.
I got to see.
The boop counter went high.
What did we get?
Seven?
Eight?
Five?
Well, now I cut.
On camera.
Yeah, on camera, five.
Yeah.
I think we got around six or seven.
Yeah.
You got one hug from quarter?
I did.
God, the hugs felt so darn good at that furry convention.
Every time they grab me, they go.
And I go, hello, folks.
Something is stiffened up.
More at 11.
Holy shit, dude.
Is that not unbelievable?
I am a gigantic pussy.
I don't think it will make people surprised listening to us and stuff.
I'd never be the same.
No, I wouldn't be able to.
I mean, going to work, I call out of work if I just get nervous about an Excel sheet. If I saw somebody being excelled from life, that would be...
Because then I'd have to hit them, like, what happened?
I'd be looking it up.
I'd do a VLOOKUP.
They put their own formula in.
They put their own formula in and they say, look, this is spilling over.
That is crazy, man.
USPS, chill the fuck out, man.
Let your people take a day off for the love of God.
Damn, dude.
That's wild.
I can't imagine.
I love how that was his favorite job, and Ross was like,
he's like, yeah, I did see someone get shot and killed,
but man, did one time I had to come over and fold 17 dungarees,
and I was livid.
That's incredible to be like, yeah, I saw somebody get killed,
but I just like being outside, man.
What are you, Steve Irwin, dude?
Dude, I'm the same way, though, man.
You put some headphones in,
you go to the grocery store.
I told my fiance the other day,
I was like,
do you have to come to the grocery store with me?
Yeah.
She's like, yes, I don't know what I want.
I was like, just text me.
Yeah.
Like, let me go.
I've had that.
I love going to the grocery store by myself.
But when you do it, do you dress cute?
Do you put on like a nice regular?
You don't kind of spruce yourself up?
Nah.
You want to go out solo with the headphones in.
A lot of times I'll dress a little cute.
Yeah.
I love it.
A little cute.
Put it on.
Hit a Trader Joe.
What do you think?
What's up, dude?
Come back.
Oh, let's go, brother.
Hell yeah.
You go on this side because we got headphones on this side so you can hear us.
How you doing?
I'm doing good.
How you doing?
What's your first name?
Norris.
Norris.
It's nice.
And we're the Man I Wear podcast.
We ask people what they do for a living.
What do you do for a living?
I'm a sales rep for Sherwin-Williams.
Sherwin-Williams?
Yep.
Nice.
Paint, right?
Yeah.
Sweet.
Are you in the city or are you outside the city?
Yeah, I'm in the city.
I cover about five little stores.
Basically, handle all of the sales and Sherwin-Williams products in those stores.
What's the paint business like right now?
It's up and down, man.
Yeah.
Everything's expensive.
People don't want to put too much on paint, right?
So they just nickel and dime you the whole time? A little bit, a little bit of both, man.
It's not bad. It's not too bad. So what are you on the floor, like talking to people,
trying to sell the exact product or what's this look like on a day to day? My main responsibilities is when I train the Lowe's associates to be able to sell our products
and talk about them and not just be as much as like an order taker, but can make recommendations and tell you what you kind of can work best for you, I guess.
And then second, that is sales.
I mean, going towards their contractors, business targeting.
Big commercial size businesses, I'm guessing?
All of it.
All of it.
Sweet.
We still got like small like shops, like, need paint and stuff?
Or is it more just Lowe's and Home Depot?
Really?
More than the big ones.
Really?
Yeah, it is.
A lot of individual contractors, especially in paint and stuff like that.
And they're everywhere.
That's funny, though, because, like, technically, you kind of have a business that, like, won't go out of, like, business, right?
Because, like, you can't, until we get, like, AI walls. Yeah. Like, we're going to need paint for like business, right? Because like you can't until we get like AI walls.
Yeah.
Like we're going to need
paint for these walls, right?
Like I'm trying to think
like what could like
Microsoft paint.
Yeah, dude.
If someone just starts
printing out all their
Microsoft paint.
Yeah, we're cooked.
Artworks.
Yeah, true.
If people like
they start bringing their kids
like kindergarten artwork home
and start pasting against the wall,
you might be fucked.
Until they do that,
I think you're good.
Man, Sherwin's everlasting, man.
Sherwin can't be stopped, dude. Sherwin's too nice, dude.
They got contracts with the government, man.
They do airship carriers. They do all that.
They ain't going nowhere. Really?
So they're painting ships and shit, too? Yeah, they do
coatings for airship carriers that you see and all that.
They got divisions for all of that.
You know, I kind of am an idiot because I just
assumed that they put the aircraft
carriers together and it was just made of steel and steel is silver.
Yeah.
So like.
I'm telling you, it's one of those jobs where you're like, oh, I forgot this is something somebody has to do.
Yeah.
You don't really think about like all the other things like who puts the lubricants on jet engines, right?
Yeah.
Somebody got to make that stuff, right?
You know what I mean?
Is that Sherwin?
No.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
He's trying to figure it out too.
Someone's doing it.
That might be your next business.
I don't think lube is ever going out of style.
Yeah.
So you're sitting there as a sales rep.
Are you upselling, like, making people buy ugly colors because it's a little more expensive?
What's this?
Be honest with us here, dude.
I'm the type of person.
I'm not a pushy salesman, man.
I just do it for the experience, to be honest.
I don't want to be in sales my whole life.
Because no one wants mauve.
No.
You can't get mauves enough.
Enough with the mauve, dude.
Please.
Light green?
Ew.
I'm this pale. I stick out in the mauve room like a glowing lamp, dude. You can't put me in a mauve room. Man, I want the get mauves enough. Enough with the mauve, dude. Light green? Ew. I'm this pale.
I stick out in the mauve room like a glowing lamp, dude.
You can't put me in a mauve room.
I want the money job, man.
You would be so surprised how much the people who just sit there and name these colors make.
They make so much money.
No way.
Probably twice as much as what I make.
The people who name the colors of the paint?
They just name the colors.
That's all they do.
They name and make colors.
The guy who named Robin Egg blue is probably like a billionaire.
It'd be the silliest name.
There's a green called Jeremy's Journey.
I see that green so much.
So many people buy that, too, and I don't understand it.
That literally sounds like a cancer walk.
Exactly.
That dude literally made a cancer walk.
He saw a cancer walk and was like, I'm taking this back to Sherwin and I'm making this.
Yeah, I was at Campbell Stadium doing an autism walk for Jeremy's Journey.
Yeah, dude.
Holy shit.
Dude, we're in the wrong business.
We got to switch this up immediately.
So they really have a dude and probably they probably have a team. It's not even just like a dude or a girl. Yeah, we're in the wrong business. We got to switch this up immediately. So they really have a dude.
And they probably have a team.
It's not even just like a dude or a girl.
Yeah, they're like designers.
And they just sit in a boardroom.
We're just going to go.
They name the colors.
Maple's Magic Mission.
Maple's Mission.
Not even a color in that title.
They literally go to a diabetes walk on the weekend.
And they're like, I'm taking 17 different people's team names.
Wow.
I'm making these.
I'm bringing this to the conference.
And they're all big wigs, too.
So they probably get home, pour a glass of whiskey.
And they're like, honey, I can't be bothered.
I was thinking of colors all day.
It's like, dude, I'm too tired.
Is there any other like crazy jobs that you like just look at and like you laugh?
To be honest, you wouldn't know what was the craziest job.
You wouldn't think it was Amazon, man.
Driving for Amazon, you will see the weirdest bags.
Have you ever done that?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Right out of college, that's what I did for a little bit.
You're talking about the guys that are in the big vans and stuff?
Deliveries and stuff?
Was it drop it off?
Damn, that had to be wild.
Dogs.
Dogs.
So we had a mailman on earlier.
Dogs.
And he didn't really have any dog experience.
He had a worse experience.
Yeah.
He was with a couple other dogs. A couple were mad um but uh but yeah i gotta assume that
like you guys your head has to be on a swivel every single day dude's trying to break into the
van people that you're delivering to him maybe not the safest places on the street no one can
fucking drive nowadays not at all and then you gotta be on such a strict time frame while doing people that you're delivering to them maybe not the safest places on the street no one can fucking
drive nowadays not at all and then you got to be on such a strict time frame while doing all that
and you got to do with traffic and all that what do they got you running at now what do they have
you running at like i know us i know ups was um they were uh they automated like the entire truck
to make sure like to cut like only seven seconds wow no amazon wasn't that crazy
but they first of all they source it out it's like a third party that'll do the driver hire
the drivers and do it um like your own car too or you get a truck you can you can i've seen people
with their own car doing yeah so if you do the the vans you work through a dispatch which is like
through a third party company but you can do like amazon flex they call it where you can drive your
car and just drop off Amazon packages. Wow.
So what was the time?
Like, would you get a, hey, you got to do this package in like seven minutes and 30 seconds?
Or how did it kind of go?
No, it's not broken down like that. It's more so like hourly.
So like the average they'll want you to do is probably about 20, a minimum, like 20 stops an hour, right?
You'll probably get about on a busier
day, 180
stops. Holy shit. Around Christmas
time, it gets crazy. You'll have like
over 300 packages
in that little ass van. It's not a big thing. Oh my god.
But you gotta get through there.
That's what makes it tough, honestly. It's just not
the worst job. Good pay?
I guess, yeah. So like,
how's it kind of go because like i've never
done it but i see it all the time goddamn fucking fiance keeps in business oh my god um who you
telling dude so when you're when you're doing it like do you get a do you get a set fee like hey
you're gonna go out here do 300 packages here's a thousand dollars for the day or something that
or is it like by by package your rate like what's your rate so you get an hourly rate through the vans like
through the third parties i don't know if the flex they might do it on flex like that what was
the rate back in the day when you were doing it i think i started at like 1750 so it's not that
great no no no that's not great again you do get tips in our work no i mean some customers would
but not really um christmas, you'll get a lot.
Incentives?
Could you be like, all right, you deliver that package in record time.
Here's an extra dollar?
No, no, no.
Not at all. Fucking Bezos.
That's the worst part of Jeff Bezos getting jacked.
Beforehand, you could be like, I kicked that pussy's ass.
And then he comes back, and he's huge.
You're like, God damn it, he'd snap me in half.
And his fucking plastic wife could kick my ass, too.
Yeah, dude.
Jacked, too.
I'll take both their asses down.
Jeff, if you're watching this,
let's have a word.
I'm happy that you're
at Sherwin-Williams now.
You seem to like it a lot more.
Oh, yeah, man.
It's a lot more freedom.
Nice.
Like I said,
I work in the Lowe's business unit,
so I'm on the move all the time.
So you're going back
to around to different Lowe's and stuff?
Yeah, I cover five of them.
I've always liked Lowe's a lot.
Yeah.
I liked it better than Home Depot.
It felt cleaner.
It smelled better.
And I just thought it was better. The peopleot it felt cleaner it smelled better um and i
just thought it was was better the people were nicer yeah um my dad worked for home depot really
i shouldn't be a lowes guy but what was the issue with home depot when he was working it was always
dirty everything places were just lanes were always shut down uh like wood planks would just
be in the aisle and stuff in lowes like it is so organized well am I wrong
no you're not and they also they're better for military people shout out to our brothers and
sisters of course overseas well I guess that's one of the places you can't complain about the
cleanliness because if you complain to like some hard-working dude who's like working with his
hands and it's like it's a little dirty in here it's like dude why don't you hit the roller rink
I love that um what's some tidbits you can give us about like Lowe's and stuff?
Like when you go in there, like what's a day-to-day like for you?
Like I kind of mentioned earlier, just making sure they're all caught up to date with the promotions running.
Like I'm just Sherwin.
So, you know, I'm taking the lead on everything Sherwin in there.
Again, just make sure they're trained up on the new products that we got rolling out.
Make sure they know the promotions.
Make sure they're actually targeting contractors
and not just DIYs.
Just make sure
Contractors are your bread and butter. You don't want
little mom and pop coming in and being like
we got to paint the den.
They're stuck in COVID mindset too
because they were, oh my god.
Who is? All the companies, honestly.
What's COVID mindset? What do you mean by that? the DIY market man everybody had money to spend you know because
everybody's getting that money wow okay it's a little different now so is it yeah so what do
you mean by them being stuck in the COVID mindset is that good for you or is that bad for you uh
bad for us because I have a budget to maintain I'm guessing yeah you're like you like you if
you got to sell like 10 pallets, you might be only selling
like seven pallets now.
Exactly.
Because they're doing
more small projects and stuff?
The DIYs,
everybody was home.
You know what I mean?
So you got your whole family at home.
Everybody's looking at the house
like, damn,
I ain't got shit to do.
Why not paint the house?
You know what I mean?
They were rolling in money.
And now their numbers
are so inflated
because of that.
It's like,
they're realizing it though.
They're taking it down a little bit.
You think that'll course correct? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. They're taking it down a little bit. You think they're, of course, correct?
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
They don't have no choice.
Can't make the investors unhappy.
True.
Good point.
100%.
Good point, yeah.
100%.
Nah, man,
this is interesting.
I never thought of it.
Yeah.
Nice.
Anything else?
Thanks to the paint game.
I didn't realize it was this,
I didn't realize we had sales reps.
Dude,
this is why I love this podcast
because we just find out dumb shit.
We just ask thoughtful,
dumb guy questions. That's all we got. And we figure out about paint and how much money you Dude, this is why I love this podcast, because we just find out dumb shit. We just ask thoughtful, dumb guy questions.
That's all we got, dude.
And we figure out about paint and how much money you can make on paint.
I mean, hey, you can make a lot of money in the paint business.
Yeah, I love that, dude.
I brag, dude.
You get as many shank sandwiches as you want, dude.
Dude, you're like God damn exhibit a little bit.
We put a shank inside of your shank, dude.
We got West Coast Customs over here.
I love that.
Yeah, I saw the other day they put an MRI machine in the back of this nurse's hatchback.
Yeah.
They did.
What is the point of...
Why does a nurse need
an MRI machine?
I wish somebody would put
fucking air conditioning
in my car.
This has been a nightmare.
It's been the worst
decision of my life.
It's only been two months.
All right, man.
We'll let you get back
to your cheesesteak.
Thank you, bro.
Appreciate you coming on.
That was awesome, man.
It was a lot of fun.
Of course, man.
How you doing?
How are you? How are you? What's going on? Good was awesome, man. It was a lot of fun. Of course, man. How are you doing? How are you?
How are you?
Good.
I hope that phone call was at least some business.
It definitely was.
That's fine by me then.
Gotta make the money, right?
I love that.
Very nice.
I love that.
What's your first name?
Maya.
Maya.
I'm Kyle.
This is Matt.
What's up?
All right.
Nice to meet you both.
What do you do for a living?
So I am a registered nurse and I'm a new business owner of a med spa.
Med spa? Med spa. Where can people find you? Yeah. So a registered nurse and I'm a new business owner of a med spa. Med spa? Where can
people find you? Yeah. So Regmar Beauty and Wellness. I'm located at 2250 East Allegheny
Avenue. Got it. Yeah. So right in the Port Richmond Fishtown section of the city. Sweet.
I love Fishtown. Yeah. How's it going so far? It's going good. And you can pat that down.
One day we'll buy a, what do they call
it? Tablecloths? The day will not be today. That's fine. That's fine. So MedSpa. MedSpa.
What's that entail? So I offer services like Botox, IV hydration. We do wellness shots as well. I just incorporated a weight loss, a weight loss medical program.
So we do compounded semaglutide. We do. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. Keep going.
I have so many questions. I might be seeing you soon. I bet you do.
So more targeted for the men. Everyone's goals are different, right? But, um,
I also offer a lipo mino mix injection. It's a vitamin injection. Um, so you lose weight,
but it helps you maintain that muscle mass still. So, um, I don't have to worry about that.
Boulders for shoulders. Back in the day. Wait, wait. So why'd your ears perk up?
Oh, I heard the semaglutide is like a very popular thing now, right?
It is.
That's like going around.
It is.
That's like in Ozempic or that's similar to it?
So what I offer is the compounded version.
So Ozempic is something very different.
What I do is the compound version.
So it's very similar, but it's not the same thing.
It works fairly the same, but it's not.
Do you have to get a shot?
You do.
Yeah, I'm out.
But remember, I'm gentle.
I'm gentle.
I don't care.
I've been a nurse for six years, so I'm no stranger to poking people up.
So I got some experience under my belt.
You won't even feel it.
You give me an IV, I am trembling on the table, passed out.
Come to me.
I bet you won't be.
I bet you I will. I bet you to me. I bet you won't be. I bet you I will.
I bet you I will.
I bet you won't be.
I've had the softest hands east of the Mississippi touch my veins.
That was me, too.
And I passed out.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
How long have you been open?
So since May.
May 25th was our grand opening.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's awesome.
Yeah, that's really great.
Anything else perk your interest over there?
Well, I'm kind of curious.
Is there, when you're opening like a beauty kind of focused endeavor, if I lived in the
area, if somebody opened a beauty focused place, I'd be offended and be like, oh, you
think we're all ugly around here?
We think we need you?
I'm only here to enhance the beauty.
So I'm only here to educate and enhance.
She's good.
I am good.
You didn't say it, but I said it.
There are some mongrels in Port Richmond.
I heard Port Richmond.
I haven't seen them.
I haven't seen them. There are some mongrels in Port Richmond. I heard Port Richmond. Oh, my goodness. I haven't seen them.
I haven't seen them. There are some mongrels.
We actually did, you know where the Planet Fitness is?
Yes.
Yeah, we actually did a podcast outside the Planet Fitness.
Okay, which one?
Aramingo?
Aramingo, yep.
Okay.
Mongrels.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Well, when they leave me, they don't look like that.
I promise.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm a marketing.
So Botox is big with the ladies.
My girlfriend, I feel like.
And men.
And men.
Really?
And men.
Do you get a lot of men coming in for the, is it facial Botox?
A nice amount.
Yeah, so I also do men's facials.
When they come in, do they like wear a hat and sunglasses so that no one sees them coming in?
Some of them do.
Some of them.
A little incognito type thing, you know.
But you got to think about all the male actors too, right?
They're always on the screen.
So, you know, they're no stranger to Botox either. you know what hollywood actors are in port richmond me brad
pittsburgh dude yeah yeah yeah so um you know what's the next thing up so obviously like
botox is big ozempic has just lit the world on fire. It has. What's the next thing would you say that people are starting to maybe latch on to?
Still the IV hydration.
So even IV hydration is basically when we hook you up to an IV.
I'm out.
And for that, I'm out.
And we insert the vitamins.
There's all different kinds.
So I have one that's geared towards athletes, people just to help with like workout recovery, still give them energy, but still help with the amino acids and everything.
And then I have the immunity drip.
So, you know, the seasons are starting to change.
People are traveling a lot, going back to school.
They're going to be around the kids and whatnot.
All of that fatigue wears down on our immune system.
So, you know, I have an immunity drip for that.
I have another one for hair, skin, and nails.
It's infused with biotin.
Biotin's a big one.
Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
So whatever you need, I got you.
Yeah.
I didn't know this about you.
Biotin's big, dude.
I didn't know you were studying all this stuff.
Dude, I have nine monsters a day.
It's like biotin and B12 is ravaging my body.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
You better come to me.
We got to cleanse you out.
What happens?
How do you?
That's a good question.
If you have a guy like me who's just absolutely pounding monsters in Celsius, what's the regimen you would put me on to kind of cleanse this?
Right.
So glutathione is a drip that I also have.
It's literally called Cleanse Me Out.
So glutathione is great for liver health.
It helps with cellular repair and helps fight inflammation.
I told you I'm your girl.
I got whatever you need. I know your girl. I got whatever you need.
I got. I sure do.
We'll be paying a visit. Don't worry about that.
You're dealing with a human Chernobyl over here.
Yeah, so we have B12
injections. We have
a triple immunity vitamin injection.
That's great for people with seasonal allergies,
people who travel a lot.
That has glutathione, zinc,
as well as vitamin C. So that helps all with the immunity. So the people who travel a lot that has glutathione zinc as well as vitamin c so that helps all with the
immunity okay so the people who uh just run from needles do you have anything for them
my heart and a kind a very kind stick and you get a lollipop after
softest hands east of the mississippi and you know what they all did. No, you don't. But you know what? I'm telling you, man. Softest hands east of the Mississippi.
And you know what?
They all did the same thing.
You haven't had mine yet.
They hurt me.
Yeah, well, you got to go to her.
You got to go to her girl, man.
She's going to hook you up, dude.
Are people still doing the hangover IVs?
I know they were big for a little bit.
I don't have one specifically geared towards that.
You know, we're all about wellness.
So, you know, we're all adults.
Of course, people go out and drink all the time, you know. But for sure, if they want to come to me after they've had, you know if we're all adults of course people go out and drink all the time you know but um
for sure if they want to come to me after they've had you know a fun night out then we got something
yeah that's a nice way to put it this is awesome fuck it one more time before you get out of here
yes so it's regmar beauty and wellness located at 2250 east allegheny avenue yes we'll be there
we will thank you 50 of us will be Okay. I look forward to seeing you guys.
I'll hold his hand while you poke him.
That's fine. You won't need to, though. I think he's
the big boy, and I think, I don't know, but I'll
have a lollipop for both of you.
This is the first time
anyone has ever called him the alpha
of this podcast. Is it? Uh-oh.
Can you believe that?
I can't. I can't believe it.
Well, thank you for having me.
Thank you so much for coming on.
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Yes.
You want to come on?
Let's go.
Get over here, will you?
Let's go.
This is Ed.
Ed is the owner of Shanks.
Dude, you're a natural.
You already went for the headphones and everything.
Good for you.
And for the, it's a little hot, all right?
But I know you're back there on the grill.
Sure.
I'm telling you. So, Ed. What's not as hot as it is back there. Sure.
I'm telling you.
So, Ed, you've owned the Shanks for how long?
A little over two years now.
Damn.
Yeah.
It's gone through a couple hands, right, in the last 12 years or so?
It has.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah. The family owned it the first 50 or so years, a little less than that.
Since it's been here, I'm the fourth owner.
Fourth owner.
Yeah.
And it's a really cool spot.
It's right in the middle of Pier 40, which is abandoned but getting renovated.
Yep.
And the Coast Guard.
Right, right.
So you get a lot of blue collar.
We get a ton from the Coast Guard.
Yeah, blue collar.
That's it.
That's good.
We get all the construction guys, local crews.
The guys building 95 up there and all.
Oh, really?
They all hang out here?
Yep.
Nice, man.
Nice.
How about that?
People always tell me about shanks. 95 up there and all that. Oh, really? They only live there? Yep. Nice, man. Nice. How about that? People
always tell me about shanks, and it's
so funny because it's like, if you're driving on, like,
Delaware Ave, it's, like, kind of hard
to miss if you're going, like, you know, 40 or whatnot.
But people are like, dude, stop there.
It's underrated. It doesn't get the love
it gets and stuff. Does that bother
you, or do you like that people are like, hey, this is kind
of my thing, man. I don't want anyone to know about this. Yeah,
no, well, I mean, of course, don't keep it a secret.
Tell everybody.
But I know being set back off the street,
we hear that at least once a day.
Like, I drive by here all the time,
didn't even know you were here.
And then they come in and they usually come back.
So let's just get them in the door, you know?
So is it just word of mouth?
Have you thought about putting like some big ass
high rise sign or anything?
Or it's just like, as much as you want to have more business,
is it kind of cool to have this like...
The word of mouth is the best yeah yeah yeah yeah because that makes you
you know you're doing something right you're not just you know I mean you could get them in by
spending the money but I like it this way I like that definitely uh just having random podcasts
come out and just uh harass your guests yeah exactly yeah um have you always been in the
cheesesteak business I have been in the food business most of my adult life yeah how to start
I started in 2004 when the ballpark opened I worked in uh Tony Luke's actually in the food business most of my adult life, yeah. How to start? I started in 2004 when the ballpark opened.
I worked in Tony Luke's, actually.
In the ballpark?
Yeah, in the ballpark.
I was an employee at Aramark at the time.
And at the end of the summer, some of the family was working and staying in there.
They offered me a job after the summer.
Sweet.
And then it just snowballed from there.
I worked at a couple different shops in South Philly.
Most of my tenure was there.
Any weed, though? Well well two street pizza is closed i worked there a long time but they're closed now that was like my neighborhood that was that was in my neighborhood spot
none of the other big ones so you're a philly guy yeah oh yeah where'd you grow up philly
south philly second street second street oh there you go the mummers and everything fired up
love that two street bar dude Are you a Mummer?
Yes.
What's your brigade?
Carolina Home.
Nice.
Are you guys like, what are you part of?
Like fancy?
Wenches.
Wenches, yes.
Nice.
Nice.
Every year?
Every year.
Does it shut down on January 1st?
Yep.
I like that.
Yes, we do.
Nice.
Good move.
Good move.
I like that.
Got to start working early.
Got a 5 a.m. shift up here, dude.
Hell yeah.
I like that.
Very nice. The wenches need you, man.
Yep.
So you started under Tony Luke working at the ballpark.
Did you take anything from the Tony Luke cheesesteak that you've kind of inspired what you guys have here?
I wouldn't say I took anything from their cheesesteak, but I definitely learned a ton working for Nicky over there.
Oh, so you worked for the dad?
Well, yeah, Nicky's one of the sons.
Got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was before they had the whole shit.
Yeah, yeah.
And I worked under him.
I worked at a lot of the time at their commissary.
He wasn't even on the grill, but I learned a ton about food.
Really?
Yeah.
So that was.
So it's funny.
You and Matty over here actually have a Tony Luke.
We have a Tony Luke connection.
Yeah.
Hey, what's up?
I made a song with Tony Luke about a year ago.
Oh, wow.
Everybody, you should check it out.
What's it called, Matt?
Look, dude, I didn't learn.
It might be called Flippy Flops.
I don't know.
I'd have to double check.
It's exactly what it's called.
It's a fucking banger.
A summer banger.
No way.
Run up the numbers, because we've only got a couple more weeks to the summer, baby.
Hit up Flippy Flops, dude.
Let it rip.
Remind my family and friends that that's a thing that exists.
And ruin barbecues for me. Yeah.
Yeah, man. We've learned, we've studied under Tony Luke. So you said you learned a lot of stuff.
Is it a lot of just like how to run a restaurant or more of like how to just the food side of it?
You know, um, just, they put a lot of passion into it. They, you know, it wasn't, they didn't
just throw anything together. Everything was fresh and that's kind of what I brought here.
Everything. I mean, and they were already doing that here. I just, but I put my own little touch on things when I, once I became the owner.
Okay.
I got to ask.
What role?
Lysios.
Okay.
Lysios, shout out.
My classmates.
Yeah.
So why not Amorosos or why not, what's the other big one?
Versus.
Sarkones.
Yeah, we've had Sarkones.
I just find that Lysios has been the most consistent for us
got it
that's a thing with people man
I was an Amoroso guy growing up
and I started working in the bar business
and it was Lysio's Lysio's Lysio's
so I think I became a Lysio's role guy
I remember when Wawa
stopped doing Amoroso
you would have thought they said they were closing up shop
they were going to business
people freaked one thing I want to know is stopped doing Amoroso, you would have thought they said they were closing up shop. Right, right. They're going to business. Yeah.
People freaked.
Yeah.
It's a big deal.
One thing that I want to know is, like, you hear about it all the time, like, just with,
like, how high, you know, it is just to run a business.
But with you and stuff, food costs, logistics and everything, what's it take to, like, run
a business in 2024 right now?
It's hard.
It's hard.
We're constantly having to raise our prices.
And people don't love that. But it's, I mean, we're getting nailed on the other end. I think, like,'re constantly having to raise our prices and people don't love
that, but it's, I mean, we're getting nailed on the other end. I think like we're putting more in
our pockets, you know, that that's the hardest part is, is dealing with that, the ever changing
cost of everything, not just the food, the bills go up, you know, rent, the electric,
yeah, everything. And nothing, nothing stays the same anymore. Nothing's ever fixed cost.
Is it now, is it just like raising along with it or do you have to get creative to find ways where you
can kind of save a little money here save a little money there type thing yeah um yeah you can't
really i mean the cost is the i mean i try to save a little bit by going to different places
to different vendors to purchase food some some will have a better deal on it but i mean if you're
going to get quality stuff you're going to pay for it yeah it's fair could be like the taco bell
taco bell apparently like they got all the shit about their ground beef and all the meats they use.
Apparently, they use end-of-life cows to get the ground beef.
I love the bell.
I love the bell.
It's a good thing.
It's good.
They're not raising them to take them back down.
They let them die naturally, and then they ground it up.
Are you familiar with what it looks like on the actual sourcing side?
No, no.
Well, I actually learned a little bit about a lot of a lot actually from
this company that i'm getting the steak from now that um i didn't even know that this was a thing
but so a lot of times when you go and get a cheesesteak it's ribeye it's from a dairy cow
so it was just it did its job as a dairy cow and then they moved on from it and used it for meat
but it's not that great of meat yeah i didn't know anything about that and they came and explained
this to me and they put this in front of me there this is from a steer and i'm like okay what i said i took one
bite and i'm like wow i could tell the difference yeah yeah what was the big difference like taste
wise it was just more tender and just more flavorful okay what's the big seller here
the cheesesteaks are the biggest okay chicken cutlets are my my favorite i heard you guys had
yeah awesome chicken cutlets yeah that's what I recommend to people.
Okay.
And the funny thing is about chicken cutlets is as popular they are in the city,
I feel like it's so hard to find a good one.
Yeah, right.
You can find a good cheesesteak.
And like, I mean, within a mile here, there's 10 top-notch cheesesteaks.
He looked at me, the guy was crazy.
South Jersey guy.
Yeah, yeah.
No, literally 10 like iconic shops that you've definitely heard of within a mile and a half.
He's like, what's your favorite cheesesteak?
I'm like, yeah, there's great cheesesteaks out there, but the one that's the closest to me around the corner is, I think, just as good.
It's not the best of the best, but it's serviceable and you can get it in 15 minutes instead of waiting in a 30-minute line to get it.
I don't know, dude.
I've heard all this stuff about all the cheesesteak guys working together.
It feels like there's an Illuminati of cheesesteak places
where you're all just
sowing discourse
so we all try our places together.
Yeah.
What if you guys band together
and got the prices down?
Right?
Yeah.
What are they going to do then?
I love that.
Get the ribeye cows, man.
Get the dairy cows.
The cheesesteak council.
Yeah, the high council.
Call up Tony Luke.
Let's get him on it.
I don't think he's going
to answer my calls anymore.
Song didn't really go gold, so not even silver.
What can he do then?
Unless the people run it up.
Yeah, sure.
We'll get him next time.
What's one thing that people would be surprised on that you spend on?
Maybe not even food stuff, but napkins or something like that.
All the paper supplies.
You know what costs me the most, to be honest with you?
It's keeping criminals out since I bought this place.
Really?
I spent the most money on building that gate back there and, like, reinforcing the windows.
Yeah.
Seriously.
Oh, my God.
Cameras, all that.
Yeah.
That's probably been, like, my most, the one cost that I didn't see coming in.
Got it.
What's in the back?
Just, like, all of a sudden.
We have, yeah, storage.
We have a freezer, a walk-in freezer.
Like, that was broken into one time before we didn't have the fence.
Oh, my God, dude. They broke in and stole, like, a piece, a hunk of meat. It was, freezer, a walk-in freezer. That was broken into one time before we didn't have the fence. Oh, my God, dude.
They broke in and stole a piece, a hunk of meat.
It was a couple years back.
Just raw meat?
Yeah, and a bag of pepperoni.
No shit, Kyle.
Damn.
I'm sorry about that, dude.
I was hungry.
I was starving that night.
Dude, that's insane.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Just the thing.
It wasn't what I expected.
Sure, of course, of course.
It's the thing that takes to run a business in Philadelphia
No, it's gotta be yeah amount of stress. It's gotta be non-stop
Is it kind of sick like you own a cheesesteak? Oh, it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. Like this comes from you
it's like it's like a it's like a
It's like the pursuit of happiness kind of like with with you start in 2004. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really is.
Yeah, it's called Full Circle.
Nice.
So what's the plan in five years?
Would you want to franchise this place?
I don't know about a franchise.
There's definitely a Shanks 2 going to be in the future.
Nice.
Me and my wife have talked about maybe down the shore or something.
Oh, sweet.
Yeah.
So over in South Jersey, huh?
Yeah.
Not so bad after all.
There's a shortage, though.
There is a shortage.
God damn it.
Should cheesesteak shops, like, should they expand more?
You see Wawa kind of going westward now.
Like, do you think cheesesteaks should be like, hey, maybe Ohio has a terrible cheesesteak?
I don't know how it hasn't.
Yeah.
I mean, I hear everybody says it's just the bread.
It's the bread.
The bread's not the same because the meat is the meat.
You can get the meat anywhere.
Right.
They say it's the bread. Can't get it out there the water something
in the philly water dude so it's like bagels with new york new york people come down like the bagels
aren't the same yeah right that's what i that's what it's got to be the water what else is
different yeah there's really nothing else beautiful delaware baby exactly right
well i gotta ask you i mean as somebody who owns like it's one of the most famous regional foods
like a cheesesteak in Philly is world renowned.
Could you think of like three other cities and their famous food that you could rank that's close to a Philly cheesesteak?
I don't really know. I haven't been to too many of them, to be honest.
Like a Boston lobster roll.
Yeah.
Southwest Chicago.
Chicago beef. I like the beef.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The beef's really good.
I've heard that's really good i haven't had one though okay
do you get sick of cheesesteaks no wow i eat cheesesteaks three times a week okay that's i
think that's good if you own a cheesesteak shop and you only eat three times a week i think that's
actually modest yeah sometimes more but yeah i'd say on average three i'd say it'd be a tough thing
to sell if you owned a cheesesteak place you're like i'm fucking sick of them yeah yeah yeah
i bounce back and forth between the cutlets and the cheesesteaks place, you're like, I'm fucking sick of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it was a... I bounce back and forth
between the cutlets and the cheesesteaks.
Nice.
So we know Shank's is the best in the city.
What are your other favorites?
Other than Shank's?
Well, Shank's is the best in the city.
Shank's is number one.
Shank's is number one.
That's tough, man.
I haven't...
I really haven't been to too many of them lately.
So like back in the day,
Jim's on South Street was always my go-to.
That was my go-to.
Tony Luke's. always liked them.
Tony and Nick's now.
Yeah, I don't really know.
I haven't been to Angelo's.
Shame on me.
I haven't been there.
How many people can tell you how good it is until you're like,
you know what, I'll just take your word for it and I won't sit in line for an hour?
Yeah, I wish I could just get my hands on the roll and slap my own on there.
The roll is cool. That's what I hear, it's the roll. Yeah. I wish I could just get my hands on the roll and slap my own on there. The roll is cool.
Because that's what I hear.
It's the roll.
Yeah, the roll is a very good roll.
Do you experiment any?
I know you guys have the Philly Special, which you put Scrapple in.
That's what I'm going to get because I never really had Scrapple growing up.
So I'm really excited to try it and stuff.
Wow.
Nice.
So how do you experiment and stuff?
Like you said, you can't eat a cheesesteak every day,
but if you variate it a little bit, then it works out.
Like we have one that's got long hots and bacon on it.
Nice.
And mayonnaise.
It's not on the menu yet.
A lot of people know about it because we ran a special on it.
It's on our online menu, but not here.
It's called the Jawn.
The Jawn, nice.
And put a little bit of mayonnaise on it.
We toast the roll.
Long hots, bacon, Cooper Sharp. Ooh, long hots bacon.
Super sharp.
I'm starving.
Yeah.
I'm just waiting on this podcast till I can eat this.
I can't wait.
Do people get upset when you kind of mess with the cheesesteak a little bit or you kind of just screw you?
It's my business.
Yeah, nobody gets upset.
I mean, you don't have to order it if you don't like it.
I like that.
Just get the traditional if that's how it is.
Sure.
See, I'm big into like, you know, when you bring up a cheesesteak,
everybody has their favorite spot. If you go to Pat's and Gino's, you're a tourist. Yeah, I'm big into like, you know, when you bring up a cheesesteak, everybody has their favorite spot.
If you go to Pat's and Gino's, you're a tourist. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, dude, it all does the same thing.
Yeah. It all goes in our belly. Whatever you like is what you like.
And it's hard to find a bad one, to be honest. Truly. Yeah. Yeah.
At the average, maybe, but there's not really many bad ones.
Absolutely. I'm like, dude, I'm drunk regardless I'm gonna enjoy it
it's kinda rude
I can't wait
awesome man
well hey
do you have anything else
no this was great
thanks for stopping by
thanks for letting us
hang out here
this was a lot of fun
thanks for coming man
dude if this podcast
blows up
maybe we can get
our own little cheesesteak
on the
Kyle and Matt
it's just mayonnaise
and bread
it's the whitest guy
sandwich of all time
American cheese orange
and just potatoes because that's my family crop alright there you go it all went belly up in Ireland mayonnaise and bread. It's the whitest guy sandwich. American cheese, orange. Yeah.
And just potatoes
because that's my family crop.
All right.
There you go.
It all went belly up in Ireland.
I'll eat it.
Let's do it.
Hey, come down to Shank's Original.
Shank's Original.
And get you a cheesesteak.
Columbus Boulevard.
It's a diamond in the rough.
Yes, sir.
Awesome.
Thanks so much, man.
Thank you guys.
Appreciate it.
No, thank you for that.
Usually we're getting kicked out of places.
No, no.
You invited us in.
Hell yeah, man.
All right. Well, that's the episode.
We got to go get some cheesesteaks from Shank's Originals.
Thank you to Shank's for letting us sit out here and bother customers and talk to Ed, the owner, and everything.
Come by if you're ever on Delaware or Ave.
And you're heading anywhere on Delaware or Ave.
It's a diamond in the rough.
You can't miss it.
Any dates you got to plug?
Yeah, I got a couple coming up.
September 7th, we'll be at the Talk More Cafe, I think it's called, in Philly.
We have a lot of stuff at the end of August that I've overbooked myself.
So check out the Instagram.
I'm posting those up.
Check the flyers.
Come hang out to a show if you're a fan of the pod.
I think you'll enjoy my stand-up comedy.
And yeah, come hang.
Yeah, I actually don't even know how many people are going to make it to the end.
But if you do, we are going to do a live show.
We have a date in mind.
I don't want to say it yet.
One, because I don't remember it. Two, because I don't want to say it yet. One, because I don't remember it.
Two, because I don't want to say it yet because we haven't really booked anything.
But we are going to do a live show where we want people to come out and we'll pull you from the live audience.
You'll come up on stage.
You'll, you know, do it.
Tell us what you do.
And it's just going to be a podcast except it's going to be live.
Same thing.
We'll just say it'll be the same thing you're seeing now.
We'll just be in front of you and drinking.
So that'll be really it.
Yep.
So, hey, thanks, everybody, for tuning in.
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