Men At Work Podcast - Mailman Witnessed a Murder and Was Told to Finish His Shift

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

Kyle Pagan and Matt Peoples are feeling mindful and demure while their identity could be stolen outside one of the best cheesesteak joints in Philadelphia to record this episode. We talk to the great ...customers of Shank's Original. One of the them is a gig economist who used to be a mailman, but had to quit because of a traumatic experience. Another guy tells us about working in sales for Sherwin Williams, the unlikely painting job that makes the most money, and why the paint business will never die. A new Med Spa owner surprises us with all the different wellness services she provides and spills the beans on the new trend in wellness everyone is starting. Finally, the owner of Shank's, Ed Brennan, tells us how hard it is running a business, his inspiring story, and the best cheesesteaks in Philly. Go support Shank's at 901 S Christopher Columbus Blvd, Philadelphia, PA ! 00:00 - Mindful & Demure/Stolen Identities/Pedo Simps 26:30 - Gig Economist/Mailman 44:30 - Sherwin Williams Salesman 55:06 - MedSpa Business Owner 1:02:12 - Cheesesteak Shop Owner Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/H6IGUigDs3Q #mailman #podcast #usps Check out our sponsor Thrive Flower! Thrive sells real cannabis products outside of the medical system. They have 9 strains of flower, 6 strains of pre rolled joints, 4 strains of vapes, gummies, and lemonades. They are the first and only company offering same day cannabis delivery within Philly. Order your cannabis at https://thriveflower.com/ and it will be delivered in about an hour. Use code menatwork15 for 15% off orders. Simply choose “same day delivery” during checkout. This applies for Philly residents ONLY. About Us: The Men At Work Podcast asks one question: What do you do for work? After that the conversation flows from there. We’ve met substitute teachers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and more. And we’ll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a baseball game, a bar crawl, casino, and more. We like to find out what people do for a living. If you want us to come to your event email us at: menatpodcast@gmail.com APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/men-at-work-podcast/id1373108039 SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4XcFWt0I6gFvMotqDp5bsZ?si=2273debc08e5485d If you want more bonus content from every episode check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ Follow Kyle: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb Follow Vito: https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Three, two, oh boy, one. Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work podcast. I'm Kyle Pegg, and as always, joined by Matt Peoples. Matt, where are we today? We're at Shanks, dude. Shanks in Philly on Columbus Boulevard. And we're here, dude, inspecting the cheesesteak game. We're keeping this thing pushing, dude.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Look, we talked about it beforehand, and we're a little excited. All of our friends from the furry episode, thanks this thing pushing, dude. We talked about it beforehand and we're a little excited. All of our friends from the furry episode, thanks for hanging out, dude. We're happy to meet you. Happy to hang out with you guys. Me and Kyle, we're talking about the nerves that we have now beforehand. Oh, boy. I'm actually nervous filming this podcast. Once you go insanely viral, it's not fun.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Yeah. Because you just feel like everyone's watching you where they're not watching you at all. Yeah. This one will probably just... I think we're up to like 15 000 views on last episode thank you so much to our four-legged friends and our furry friends appreciate and everyone else who might not be into furries who just wanted to watch furry content we appreciate you but man man it's like you have some like it's like you just put all this pressure on yourself this is what mj felt like at the fail line this has got to be this is probably michael me and you are right now are michael jordan game six in Utah.
Starting point is 00:01:08 And we're trying to figure out how we're closing this bad boy out so we can go home and drink and gamble. I love it. I love it. Is this our flu game? This is our flu. This is after the flu game, dude. It's us trying to hit that final shot to close this thing out. Yeah. So we're at Shank's Original.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Thanks to the people at Shank's Original for letting us out here. And if you are new to this podcast, which a lot of you freaking are, we're just called Men at Work. And what we do is we go around to different parts of the city of Philadelphia and beyond. And we ask people what they do for a living and kind of let the conversation go from here. The people of Shanks were really nice to let us on Columbus Ave right here, Delaware Ave right here. They were nice to let us sit out here and annoy their customers and talk to some of their people in there. So that's what we do. We're looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:01:41 That's what we do, baby. It's not all furry conventions and horsing around. Sometimes it's getting nitty and gritty with the cheesesteaks, dude. Yeah. So what's going on before we get into it? Same crud every damn day. I've been very cutesy. I've been very demure lately, as TikTok has informed me.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Have you seen the trend? Yeah, it's interesting. I don't really understand it. I don't really understand the internet now in 2024. Yeah. But I'm with it, dude. You want to do cutesy? You want to do demure? Very, very mindful. It just bugged me because I had to Google demure because it's like, it's one thing to not know what a trend's about,
Starting point is 00:02:12 but it's also to not know what the word means. Really shut me down last night, dude. What does it mean? I think it just means like when your girlfriend just keeps buying stuff for your apartment and she doesn't tell you and she just buys it. And then she says, Hey, just split it with me. It's $'s 200 each and then you find that out and then you're hemorrhaging money and she goes yeah but it's cutesy and it's demure i think it's something like that what did your girlfriend just recently buy oh my god last night she put together but this is the other thing like i will say the one the balance that we have is that she builds the furniture in the apartment what do you do uh? Last night I had six Miller Lights and I watched her do it.
Starting point is 00:02:46 What's she building? Like Ikea furniture? Or are we talking like more complex? No, Wayfair, which... Don't get me into that. I said, you better make sure that's a TV unit. Is that hard to build Wayfair? Is that harder than Ikea?
Starting point is 00:02:59 Well, Wayfair has a checkered past. Do you remember that time about the Wayfair stuff? That wasn't true, though. Yeah, well, you would say that, dude. You would say that. You listen to the internet. You believe everything on the internet.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Are you talking about the trafficking thing? Yes. Well, I just got us demonetized for this episode. Okay, first five. But you're talking about the whole,
Starting point is 00:03:16 what was it? It was industrial-sized cabinets, right? Yeah. Okay. And I think that it probably is bologna and cheese, but it's just like
Starting point is 00:03:23 the prices were a little weird either way. So this had no kids were in this TV unit, but she bought a pink TV unit, which she was like, she hits me with it. She's good at it, dude. You guys just moved in. Yeah. You got a pink TV unit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:35 We had another one. We bought a couch and the next day we were going to pick it up. And like only hours before she was like, hey, I just measured the living room. It's not going to fit at all. We have to cancel. So now my living room is just a wide open space for fun-ass activities,
Starting point is 00:03:48 but I would like to have a couch in there. What do you sit in, like soccer mom chairs and stuff? Not like Love Island? Nothing at all. I just lay down in like a starfish formation. You don't even have
Starting point is 00:03:56 like an air mattress or anything you can lay down on? Nothing. Dude, my roommate still lives with us and he's like, sick, no couch, cool. What happened to the other couch? We gave it to him. But he still lives there. Give there give it back well he's got a new house now which i wanted to ask you about this are you like one of the guys where they're they talk about
Starting point is 00:04:13 uh oh help me move this saturday i'll give you beer and pizza no i don't agree with that i think after a certain age you shouldn't be doing the beer and pizza bit because it's like at some point it's like you're what 28 sure how old your roommate 28 yeah full-time job yeah pay movers that sucks i'm sorry it sucks but pay movers and and half the time a little uh little tidbit for everybody out there half the time you have a friend your friend has a connection to like a penske or a u-haul or something else where they can get you like 20 off movers yeah so try that out maybe network better dude you're preaching to the choir. The whole pizza and beer thing,
Starting point is 00:04:47 I was over that when I was like 17. Yeah. My aunts and uncles would ask me like, hey, I'll give you some pizza, I'll give you a couple beers. And I'm like, I've never done cardiovascular activity and been like,
Starting point is 00:04:55 you know what would simmer me down now? Three slices of a plane with a goddamn Miller Lite. That would crush me. Carrying a couch up the stairs and your reward is pizza and beer? Probably some shitty beer and some shitty pizza from around the corner of this
Starting point is 00:05:10 nice place? No. Pay for the movers. It's just easier too. The next time I move somebody in the house, it better be my child going to college. Really? Yeah. My dad and all, he had a couple friends that came down and helped out with us moving into college. Then you always your like three roommates that you're living with
Starting point is 00:05:27 and their dads come or their moms come and stuff. So it's like, it's a lot easier when that happens. And then you also have like, if it's your first day of school, you have those other people who they employ who are like the weirdos, uh, ambassadors for the college that like you think are really cool when you first
Starting point is 00:05:40 start. And then like, and then you like hang out with them at a party because they all try to like hit on all the young girls and everything. And like, yeah, this guy's a little weird. And there's a reason why he's a senior being an ambassador for freshmen. I totally agree. And you asked that guy and then you like hang out with them at a party because they all try to like hit on all the young girls and everything and like yeah this guy's a little weird and there's a reason why he's a senior being an ambassador
Starting point is 00:05:47 for freshmen I totally agree and you ask that guy and you're like dude are you fucked up and he's like I don't even drink and it's like
Starting point is 00:05:51 oh it's worse it's actually worse now I will say are you uh I mean like that's kind of a good point that I think you're raising is that the pizza and beer
Starting point is 00:05:58 of moving people only works if you like hanging out with the dudes like if I moved all day and it was like my boy but if it's your if it's your pals.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I might be a shitty friend, but if my best friend came and said, hey, dude, here's some Miller Lite. Here's some Domino's. Have at it, dude. Let's go move this 100-pound couch with a steel frame in it because it has a pullout. Of three flights of stairs. Like, do you have an elevator?
Starting point is 00:06:19 No? Oh, this is fucking amazing. True, but it doesn't have to be Dominezis, dude. What if it's like a nice, like, it's just some dumb Italian dude's name and a pizza. All pizza tastes the same. Wow, that is a scolding hot take. I mean, unless you're like the big box stores, like your pizza, your Domino's.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Oh, look at you, dude. And you're not like your corner stop. I think all pizza tastes the same. Well, what's your go-to pizza? Like, what's your number one? You're a Philly guy. Whatever is around the corner for me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Like, if I'm going out of my way, I'll go to like an Angelo's or I'll go to, no, I'm a big corner pizza guy. Give me the corner spot. I'm the same way with like Philadelphia and it actually works because we're on cheesesteaks today. Sure. Your cheesesteaks, I'm going to get killed for this.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Your cheesesteaks at your corner Italian joint are just as good as your Pat's, your Gino's, your, maybe not Angelo's, your Shank's Originals, your like, they're not Angelo's, your Shank's Originals. You're like they're all good. OK.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Some of them do suck. But most of the time in Philadelphia, you're going to find a cheesesteak that is good or better at your local joint than you are at one of the joints that like they tell you to go. Like the Alessandra sucks. Really? You're calling them out right now? They've become trash since the pandemic. So they used to be good and you don't like them now? No, I went to them when I was in high school and I thought they were really good. And then I
Starting point is 00:07:27 went probably about a couple years ago and I was like, this is trash. I'd go to the chubbies place, I think it's called, across the street. I'd rather that. They have a bar too in there. So it's like, people suck. Sorry, Delessandros. You suck. They are mean. Somebody from New Jersey. I don't understand why you have to be so goddamn mean to me and why I get hard from it. I don't understand why those two things have to
Starting point is 00:07:43 happen when you're like, what's the order? And I'm like, bro. Yeah. Delos Andrews is going way downhill. But you don't think like there's an attachment that you have, like a cheesesteak place or a pizza place, that it's not even about the food,
Starting point is 00:07:54 it's like the nostalgic memories maybe, like you went somewhere growing up and you're like, this is the number one place because my dad took me after baseball. Nothing like that? Matt, you're from South Jersey, dude. Yeah. It's not like you were playing ball across the street from Pat's at Capitola Playground.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You have a fundamental misunderstanding of SJ, dude. You play baseball. Were you playing in Canyon? Were you going to Donkeys? Like, what was going on? No, I was taking a risk here. Oh, I remember when Pop Pop took me to Donkeys in between drive-bys. Yeah, we would duck and we'd keep playing, dude.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Sorry we ball like that. But, I mean, I'll give you an equally hot take. I'm going to cut you off for a second. Yeah, let would duck and we'd keep playing. Sorry we ball like that. But I mean, I'll give you an equally hot take. I'm going to cut you off for a second. Yeah, let me hear. My fundamental childhood memories of food is going to the Applebee's after Saturday Mass and playing those little cool blue game that they used to have, the trivia game on the TVs. That's my fundamental memory. I don't know if something happened when I was younger. Oh, it did. But I have so many memories that I don't know if something happened when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Oh, it did. But I have so many memories that I don't even remember before the age of 10. Okay, first of all, that is a tragically sad story on nine different angles. Yeah, dude. You're an Applebee's kid, which is pretty sick. I hate to say it. I was an Outback State kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:03 But the fact that you don't remember there's like large swaths of your childhood you can't even call back on right now it's really all just based around sports like i remember my i remember vividly my team going 21 and 0 travel baseball shout the montgomery wolverines and 12 and we're the first travel baseball team 12 years u12 to go undefeated won the championship I remember going 11 for 11 in Cal Ripken Park in Baltimore during a tournament. I remember getting absolutely murdered by Newman Goretti in high school basketball by 40 every single time we played him.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And then we'd go to patch stakes after. I guess I just resonate with sports memories and everything else I've just blocked out. That's pretty fair. I can agree with that. But sports memories, I guess it's because you were probably good at them. You're not going to believe this. I wasn't the best athlete. The only sports memory I remember is that one time I was playing baseball
Starting point is 00:09:52 and I didn't want to play, and a kid found out that if you run into the guy with the ball, you don't necessarily get tagged out or something like that. Is that a rule? I don't think that's real. So you were told that if you run into the kid with the ball and he drops the ball, you're not out? Well, I was the kid with the ball. And I had a young, small Italian boy run full speed into me. And he hit me so hard that I fell in my pants, rubbed against the sand.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You won't get this, but you got Albert Bell. What is that? You got Albert Bell. Well, did his pants come down and his ass rubbed on the sand? Albert Bell. Forget who it was. He fucking hit stick the shit out of this guy at second. So it's a thing.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah, but he was still out. From when? How long ago was this? This was like the 90s. Oh, this was probably the early 2000s. I came with you to show you this. I don't want to see it. I don't want to relive it.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I'm telling you, the kid ran full speed into my chest. I fell backwards in front of like a packed audience. It was like one of those Thursday Under the Lights games. And my pants came down and my bare ass rubbed on the sand dude get a bell dude i had a belt and i just had a skinny little slim waist i was very demure and uh these are when the boys used to play baseball baby bro for real that's pretty similar dude yeah no look at albert bell compared to that second baseman but dude that's just baseball he's breaking up he's breaking up a double play and albert bell was a huge asshole. You ever talk to that Italian kid who hit you?
Starting point is 00:11:05 No, not at all. He hit me and then they didn't call him out. And then I had to pull my... There's no way you could talk shit. They didn't call him out? No. Did you have the ball in your hand? Not even close.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And the ball was in the glove? I thought it was in my hand. I know I thought I caught the ball and I was near the base. I don't think I was on base. And he was probably on there before me. But I'm telling you, I got smacked so far backwards. The pants came down. My bare ass.
Starting point is 00:11:24 My bare nine-year-old ass. Pale. Disuck rubbed against the sand and i got it i remember i had it on my crack when i got home and i was so embarrassed but there's no way and kyle there's no way to talk shit when you're getting up pulling your damn dungarees back off sliding shorts on or a cup no i had underwear on and no cup now i thought the cup made my penis feel weird as a kid oh Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think unless you're catching I don't think like
Starting point is 00:11:47 below the age of 10 you should be wearing a cup. It's just weird. I agree. Yeah. But whatever that wherever that kid is
Starting point is 00:11:52 I hope he didn't open a corner pizza store that Kyle goes to now. Oh Italian bastard. Yeah. I got laid out. Dude you'd baboon
Starting point is 00:11:58 cheeks from this nine year old kid. I got home and I took like my ninth watery diarrhea the day and there was sand in there and I was like come on. Oh my God. Yeah man. Yeah. I got home and I took like my ninth watery diarrhea of the day and there was sand in there. And I was like, come on.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Oh, my God. Yeah, man. Yeah. Speaking of mindful and demore. Your ID stone? Identity? I am waiting for the message that says like there's been another data leak. But this one seems bad.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Are you talking about the one that's on the news right now? Yeah. For anyone that doesn't know, the National Public Data Trust or whatever it's called, they're being sued right now in an antitrust lawsuit. Not an antitrust lawsuit. What's the lawsuit that we all get together and we get like $2 from Uber off of? Oh, like a- Class action? Yeah, class action.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah, class action lawsuit against the company for apparently hackers got 3 billion people's identity. Yeah. And I read actually a Washington Post article and they said, yeah, no need to worry about it Apparently hackers got 3 billion people's identity. And I read actually a Washington Post article and they said, yeah, no need to worry about it because, dude, your identity is already out there. That's a good point. Which is hilarious to think about. Like, yeah, no need to worry because your identity has been floating in the ether for 10, 20 years. The thing that I saw was like the hackers were only selling it for like $3.5 million. And there was like millions of lines of stuff. So people were like, this could be somebody's leaked data from 30 years ago. It could be someone's leaked data
Starting point is 00:13:10 from 30 days ago and stuff. Your data could be on there, but it also could be a credit card that you haven't had in five years. But they were selling the entire bundle of all the information for $3.5? So that's another red flag right there. Would you ever want to know your valuation if you were part of that bundle? I know my valuation. Check my bank account. That's your valuation, dude. It's your credit, dude. It's not the bank.
Starting point is 00:13:30 It's not what's in your account. It's what's in your heart and your credit score. I don't even know what my FICO score is. I know it's good, so I don't really ever check it, but I always get the email saying, like, your points went down two points. I'm like, who gives a shit? I don't know what that means. I just bought a fucking tuxedo for $1 dollars oh my god what the fuck are you serious yeah dude
Starting point is 00:13:48 holy crud dude dude i'm wearing that thing till for the next two decades i don't care how much i gotta you might have to wear it on the pod every single time oh by the way you're getting invited to the meeting dude what did i tell you guys dude i said if you stay consistent you stay strong and you bully your friend you can get invited to their wedding. I just found that out. Let's go. I know that's Cass helping out. I'm not going to tell him, but Cheeto's getting invited, though. Oh, my. Don't invite it. Don't ruin my invite with Cheeto's
Starting point is 00:14:14 invite. Cheeto's your plus one. That's pretty good. I'd be pretty sick, dude. I might hook up with Vito. I can't believe you're getting invited. You are. It wasn't my decision. I'm telling you, it was not my decision. I said, why? She goes, yeah, we're going to invite Matt, and we probably should invite cheetah i said why that's the first thing i said why that is very demure dude you guys invited me very demure i don't like the fact that i know
Starting point is 00:14:36 i know how you are so i can imagine how uh your wonderful fiance is who's a great woman just being like we probably have to do it. There's no excitement. Whatever, dude. We're in there like swimwear. God bless. Better fucking be a good gift. A great gift, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:52 What better gift than... What are you going to get me? Continued teamwork, camaraderie, co-workership that has turned into friendship. Nice. No, I'll come up with something pretty sick, actually.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I'm pretty excited about this now. Give me your pants. It's pretty sweet, dude. I'll invite you to whatever you want to come to i have nothing that's ever gone on in my entire life but whatever it is you're invited to back to your identity yeah my identity my identity if i found out my valuation was like two bucks that would hurt pretty bad i mean it's probably nothing to like really write home about what are you like your your 20s no it's not even financial i just would hope that they would like think about like oh he's a hard worker he's a cool guy like if you come over his house he's always like do you want to drink can i get something to eat like i want them to factor in other aspects of my personality brother man you're in the wrong country you got to go over to china dude you want a social you want a social credit score like you're talking that's a good
Starting point is 00:15:38 point he's a cool dude damn maybe china has it figured out the social credit score if you factor in like obviously i'm not doing well financially. I'm doing a podcast out front of the water at a cheesesteak place. But otherwise, I'm a pretty cool guy to hang out with. I'll get you a beer if you sit down. I'll get the first round. I don't play Xbox, but if you do, when you come over, we'll play it together. So we're both not video game guys?
Starting point is 00:15:58 No, I hate video games. Dude, how bad has this summer been for us? Between, like, college football being re-released, which is a big deal. Backyard Sports looks like they're coming back. I know, yeah. We are totally on the out. Every time I see a new Call of Duty get released, I always get sad. Every time NBA 2K or Madden gets released.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Madden hasn't been good since 2005 with Ray Lewis on the cover and the hit stick. But I do feel left out. Yeah. I never really got into video games. What I should have did was invented Twitch because I loved watching people play video games. I don't know why I liked it, but I'd rather do it. Yeah. Like I did, I never really got into video games. What I should have did was invented Twitch because I loved watching people play video games. I don't know why I liked it
Starting point is 00:16:27 but it was just, I'd rather do it. I don't know. I am the same exact way. I never liked video games but as soon as I saw like Skyrim walkthrough part one, I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:35 give me that right now. Are you more of a role player game guy? Like the role player. I like to pretend I wasn't Matt for a little bit because, you know, clearly hasn't been working out but,
Starting point is 00:16:43 no, I'm kidding. I'm a whoreson dude. My social credit score, I can't even talk like that. That's going to be a couple points down for stumbling. Yeah, true. I cannot talk.
Starting point is 00:16:52 But yeah, dude, it's been tough to be video game guys. What's your go-to when like a bunch of your boys are playing video games? Do you sit off to the side or do you try and play and like push through?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Dude, I can't even tell you the last time I've been around people playing video games. Really? Yeah, the last video game I actually bought was, I think, Madden 2007 with Brett Favre on the cover when he was Vikings. And then they re-released it because he got traded to the Jets. Yeah. And I think he was the Jets on the cover.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And I went to Epsican, New Jersey in Atlantic City to go get it. And we went outside in the most hood place ever. And I was like, I'm literally going to get my Madden and give it away to somebody. Really? Yeah, Absieken, New Jersey? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Place is a shithole. I think it's a nice place. Is it not? I thought that's like a shore town. That's a beautiful place, dude. Absieken? Absieken. You're talking about Absieken.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Right outside of Atlantic City. Yeah. You think Atlantic City's beautiful too? No, I agree with you. I'm on your team. I'm on your team with this one. I just, I didn't, I mean, I thought,
Starting point is 00:17:44 look, I never went that far about getting a game just to immediately be charitable, but I, at least in retrospect, I just. Charitable. Yeah. Well, it was nice, dude. You got to pat yourself on the back every once in a while. What are you talking about? I was talking about the guys outside the store, the GameStop store stealing it.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Oh, I thought you were doing something nice. No. Oh, yeah. I guess you would get roughed up. True. Dude, if I saw your candy ass walking out of a GameStop, I'm saying give me it and stop calling it Absicon. Some of my favorite videos are the ones where the kid's walking through the hood with a PS5. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And it's an empty box of a PS5. And these guys just run up on them, like, show their Glock and then, like, steal it from them. He's like, dude, it's empty. And then they're like, damn. You just see, like, just the agony wash over their face. That would make you more likely to get shot, though. If the guy who stole it opened the box and he's like, come on, dude. Because this guy puts up a little bit of a fight, too.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And you're like, what are you doing, dude? It's a prank. Stop with the prank shit. Yeah. By the way, and we're probably going to have to cut this because I don't want to sympathize with pedos. Okay, please, by all means. We were just at a furry convention now we were sympathizing with
Starting point is 00:18:46 pedos we're getting close dude has has the catch a predator content got out of control kyle we're keeping it because yes it has dude i don't need like like i love what everyone's doing out there like catch the predators catch the fucking predators get these fucking scumbags off the street these low-life guys that should get the chair get them off the street agreed do i need acon saying locked up when you get them though like i don't think i do like i think i just need chris hansen to come back and be like hey take a seat i mean that's what that was and i did if i have to watch some for by the way there's the vitality guy whatever and look big one obviously we're a couple of big content creators here now.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Not, you know, starting to be. We're on Vitaly's level. What's up, Vitaly? First of all, if you're going to slap the dude, you better be from America. Yeah. Okay? First and foremost. If you're slapping pedos in America, you got to be an American dude.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Otherwise, it seems like you're just kind of like fishing for gold. I mean, I'm not going to lie. Like, it made me sad that the guy who created Space Jam is a pedo. Yeah. It sucks. Yeah. It sucks. I. It sucks. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And it's awful, obviously. And again, pedophilia is the worst possible thing you can do. Get in the fucking chair. But there is an innate human response to when you see a dork in the wild, you're immediately on the dork side. And all these pedos are the dorks in a Walmart being like, so this is what happened here. Do you want to have to say anything about it?
Starting point is 00:20:03 And they start running and they run like dorks. And nothing ever works out even remotely in their favor. So every single video I have it in the back of my head that I'm a little bit sympathetic to these people. And that's their fault. I don't want to be sympathetic to the fucking people. Yes, I agree. I agree. But when you're getting Akon on here and when you're fucking right up to this dude's face, it's like, could we just like get the cops involved?
Starting point is 00:20:27 Can we call one goddamn cop? Can we just get like a security guy? That is a good point. It's like, I would never sympathize with a pedo. And then they were like, well, what if I made a list of a million things
Starting point is 00:20:35 that would make you sympathize? I'd go, no. But then they land on one thing. It's like, what if Akon was singing behind him and they actually were enjoying each other's company for a couple seconds
Starting point is 00:20:42 and that guy felt like, oh my God, nothing's ever gone right in my life. Finally, Akon singing with me. And then we come in and we're like, we knew you're trying to bang a kid. That would crush me. Oh, my God. And what is Akon doing? Like, does he need the money that bad? Doesn't he own a country? I thought he owns a country, but he also might have evaded taxes and went to jail for tax evasion. So I can't really keep up with the whole with the whole Akon thing. He had like this weird investment back in the day where he was basically like i'm bringing i think cell phones cell phones or internet to
Starting point is 00:21:09 the entire country of ghana i think it was because that's where he's from or a country in africa yeah and like i'm pretty sure he had like billions and billions of dollars invested in it yeah and he was just like i've got no fucking plan so like econ's not the greatest dude he's not the shitty pedo but he's not the greatest dude either like so you think so like so you're saying Akon scotts-totsed
Starting point is 00:21:30 the country of Ghana he made big promises he couldn't follow through on yeah he's probably like I'm gonna bring you a Nokia you guys are gonna have Snake for days and then he was like
Starting point is 00:21:39 by the way I'm taking that and I'm running and I'm putting on a tour also he went to he went to jail for he, that Locked Up song, he didn't know that girl was under 18 in the club and he was hooking up with her. Great. I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Which I also don't think is right that Akon should have went to jail for that because when you're in the club and you have bouncers that are supposed to check IDs to make sure girls are 18 to 21, it's kind of a slippery slope there. Again, don't want to, I don't know if he's a, or he's a... Again, we're not accusing Big Ake about anything, dude. David Akers, you're good with us. David Acon. But I will say, if you've ever been around a 18-year-old girl,
Starting point is 00:22:15 the first thing in your head goes, that's a little kid. You can tell when it's a young child. Yes. So just head home, dude. Go back home. Yeah, dude. Throw on the new college football game.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yeah. Stop kissing kids. It's true. That's our big platform. Stop kissing kids and go play video games. Quit kissing kids. Go home. Play video games. Say the N-word on Xbox Live. Unless you're Dr. Disrespect. Another guy. Yeah, that guy actually double dabbed. He actually got double jeopardy, which he said, look, I'm doing both. You can't catch me.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yeah, you can't catch me. He turned it on Chris Hansen. Dude, that is... You can't catch me. I didn't do nothing wrong. I can't believe that, dude. Yeah. Yeah, the pedo stuff. And dude, stop making content around pedophiles, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:51 If you're not Chris Hansen, stop doing it. Like, you're making me sympathize with these guys, and I feel dirty doing it. Yeah, I agree. I will say, my favorite cope that the pedo dudes have, again, we hate these guys. We're going to keep reinforcing it. But a lot of times, they'll be like, look, I came here to meet up with this girl to explain what she's doing is wrong and then the go-to line of the catchers is always like you know on page four we can see you sent a picture of your flaccid penis and it's like god damn it they always bring the shittiest alcohol
Starting point is 00:23:18 too yeah like if they just brought like a case of milwaukee's best or like bush light yeah i think some people would be like you know what that's pretty. But it's always like Zima wine coolers and like Mike's Hard. It's like the ultimate like pedo drink. And that's why I feel like people don't drink Mike's Hard or Zima anymore because that was like the ultimate, like I'm bringing this 14-year-old girl a drink.
Starting point is 00:23:35 You see what you're saying? It's a little Mike's Hard? Dude, if fucking White Claw ever becomes the pedo drinker choice, they're fucked. Yeah, I mean White Claw. White Claws. Yeah, true. Dude, if Stateside becomes the pedo drinker choice they're fucked they're yeah i mean high noon white sides yeah true the state dude if stateside becomes the peanut pedo drink i'm gonna be so
Starting point is 00:23:49 fucking angry we're cooked yeah i love the statesides yeah uh well i can't imagine first of all they're so goddamn expensive which again stateside we'd love to by the way stateside please let us come to your place and do a podcast but otherwise lower the darn cost guys yeah they are fucking expensive we're just a couple of run-of-the-mill guys yeah yeah that is pretty funny to think about like every single one you see on like the chris hansen it's always like a pizza and like mike's hard which like by the way i could get fucked by uh one of these dudes that would get to my heart i'd be like that is so nice that you went out of your way to two different places by the way picked up pizza got a six pack of my card it's true i'll pose as a little that might be the new move if you're like short on cash but you need to drink pose as pose as a little boy and then invite these
Starting point is 00:24:30 guys to your house do the little boy act as long as you can smash the mics hard and then be like i'm 29 that might be the move dude if you're low on cash pose the kid get a couple mhs rip some pizza and then be like dude dude, I'm 29. Dude, this is crazy. But then if you guys get along, get a bar. He's like, ew. Ew. Oh, and be like, look, don't be weird.
Starting point is 00:24:53 There's a corner bar down the street. Do you want to come? Next thing you know, you have a friend with a checkered past. Did we just miss the entire lunch rush? Yeah, I think we just kept, yeah. Did we just vamp for like 20-odd minutes and just miss the entire lunch rush because we're just idiots? I hear you, Vito. Dude, it's not on you, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:08 It's on us. Vito. We're just a bucket full of nerves right now because we have so many new people watching the YouTube and joining the TikTok. We pulled Vito. By the way, we should say we pulled Vito out of vacation mode. He came all the way from vacation to come film this pod. So you got to get up from, dude. He was out on vacation. He was at a roller skating rink doing backwards advanced skating
Starting point is 00:25:28 uh putting on fast music and he left that to come here that's awesome veto yeah that's so cool yep one day we're gonna get veto a wireless mic so that he can chime in from over there but i think he'd be too drunk with power he did get a little bit of a glory hound but i i did think about and i wanted to run this by you and now i run it by veto on time i think if we do like a too drunk with power. He did get a little bit of a glory hound, but I did think about it and I wanted to run this by you and now I'll run it by Vito on time. I think if we do like a five to two minute Vito recap
Starting point is 00:25:50 at the end of our episode, because after watching his recap last time, it's just him being like, everything was good. I had a good time. You guys don't even know what I deal with behind the camera.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Behind the music, Vito. Yeah, dude, you got dominated by the furries. That was rough. R-U-F-F. Is that a... That's Tyler, the creator. No, this is Ben Simmons' agent.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Is this Rich Paul? Is this Rich Paul? Yeah, I think it might be Richie Paul. What's up, man? How are you? What's up, bro? How you doing, man? Come on the pod.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Wherever you want to sit. Sit on this side because we have headphones for you. What's up, man? How are you? What's your first name? My name is Chris. Wherever you want to sit. Sit on this side because we have headphones for you. What's up, man? How are you? What's your first name? My name is Chris. Chris? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Nice. I'm Kyle. This is Matt. What's up, man? Pleasure. We're the Men Who Work podcast. We ask people what they do for a living. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And we just go around places, random places like Shank's Original. What do you do for a living? Well, right now, I have two ways to make money. I do Rody, which is a company through UPS. Basically, same-day delivery for anything, and you don't have to package it. Wow. So mainly, lately, I've been doing a lot of luggage delivery.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I'm not sure if you heard about Delta in the news recently. Yeah, we have. Delta's screwed. Tell us about that a little bit. What's going on with Delta? I'm not really keen on exactly what's going on. We'll fill in the blanks. As much as you know.
Starting point is 00:27:07 A lot of luggage that hasn't reached its destination when it should have. How long ago was this? I believe like two weeks. Is this because of the CrowdStrike shutdown? I think it's all bleeding together, right? Like all the plane issues is also bleeding into like all the issues with luggage. Is that about right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Okay. Okay. Basically. So as well as I've been doing a lot of luggage deliveries for them. Yeah. And I also have been doing Instacart. I haven't been doing it as much, but that was my main source of income for all of us. So this Rody app, I'm guessing it is? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Is it a pretty lucrative deal? Because like people like probably don't even know about it. So the rates have got to be pretty good, right? It can be. Depends on distance. I'll say it depends on distance and time of day. Got it. Because pay typically goes up when it gets later.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And if you're going like Harrisburg, then of course they're going to pay more. Damn, you're going that far? Yeah, sometimes. Where's the farthest you've been? About three hours, 15 minutes out. And still in Pennsylvania, but I'm not even familiar with what part it was. That was prescription delivery. So they do prescriptions, luggage.
Starting point is 00:28:15 This place is called Rhodey? Rhodey. It's not a physical place. It's just a nap. I bring Rhodeys every time I drive, but that's kind of a different thing. R-O-A-D-I-E. Yeah, same spelling. That's crazy, man. How'd you hear about it? Hmm, how did I hear about it? but that's not it's kind of a different thing r-o-a-d-i-e oh yeah same same spelling that's
Starting point is 00:28:25 crazy man how'd you hear about it hmm how did i hear about it um i think it was just like a random search because at one point i love on-demand uh type jobs where i can log on and log off as i please yeah the gig economy yeah exactly exactly so uh i was just searching those type apps at one point in time and i found quite a few. And that one was one that stuck, basically. So back to the Delta thing, I mean, it seems like planes are just losing their minds right now. Like, flights are delayed, all these different issues. Like, what do you think the primary issue is with the luggage deliveries? What would you guess?
Starting point is 00:28:59 I can't say I'm informed enough to really speak on the topic. Give us your opinion. Like, are people pulling the things out and, like, wearing out and wearing the stuff and wearing my coolest T-shirt? Is that happening? I have no idea. I just know there's a lot of luggage that's not where it should be. Some doesn't meet its connecting flight. They told me one time I got there that Spirit Airlines flight, Delta representative telling me,
Starting point is 00:29:26 Spirit Airlines flight didn't take off, sat on the runway for six hours. And I guess they canceled or whatever happened. I don't know the technicality. But they end up having to process their luggage. So we were delivering Delta airline and Spirit Airlines luggage to where it needed to be. Really? Well, that's nice. It all seems connected
Starting point is 00:29:46 because I'm a big thrifter myself and a lot of the thrifts I go to, they say one of their biggest ways of getting nicer, higher brand clothes in is if a bag, luggage bag goes unclaimed,
Starting point is 00:29:56 it gets sold to these thrift stores, like these for-profit thrift stores. I've been murdering at the thrifts lately, dude. I've been finding crazy shit and I think it's just...
Starting point is 00:30:04 Give us one thing. Got a YSL tweed jacket not too long ago. Damn! It's unbelievable. I'm telling i've been finding crazy shit and i think it's just give us one thing got a ysl tweet jacket not too long ago damn it's unbelievable i'm telling you this is crazy so i think your guy's misfortune which it's very very sad to hear i've been he's not misfortune he's making money off of it oh true true i got i got a uh it's not thrift but i got from uh kohl's recently i had 20 kohl's cash and um they had an 85 off deal on top of the already sale priced items yeah so this shirt i got for okay let me just say i got three shirts one is a 50 shirt and two 30 shirts i paid three dollars and 24 cent bang dude after 20 for all three for all that's all total total after the coals cash and the sale prices three dollars you can't be And 24 cent. Bang, dude. After 20. For all three? For all three. That's awesome. Total. Total. After the Kohl's cash and the sale prices.
Starting point is 00:30:47 $3. You can't beat Kohl's. So I'm so interested in this rodeo. I want to go back to it. What is like your day to day usually when you're like, like you just go down to the airport and what happens? Yeah. So basically they post the delivery details. One item, three items, however many.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Which company is working for it? Because you could do Southwest as well. They also do deliveries. And you press accept or decline. You see the details, the pay, the distance, et cetera. So it's like Uber. If you want to swipe on the thing, you can. You swipe, you accept, you head there, press arrive.
Starting point is 00:31:16 You go in, say you're picking up such and such, et cetera. And pretty much you may have to sign something you may not check off. How much does Rody take off the top? I don't know exactly, but I'm pretty sure they're getting something. Well, you have to get something. Like I think,
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't know what it is with Uber. I knew back in the day was probably like 10%. I don't know. It's still like that. It's probably has risen and stuff. Yeah. But I'm just like, man,
Starting point is 00:31:38 I'm just thinking about it. It's such a, it's such an awesome idea because like so many people, and it's just Delta doing it. It's no one else. Like you don't go for anyone else. Southwest does luggage deliveries right now. Getting your luggage back is a bitch. Nightmare.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I've never had to deal with it, thank God. Have you? You've had to get your luggage back after you get home from the flight? Once my luggage got stuck in Tennessee and we were home. And you had to come all the way back to Philly to get it? No, they end up delivering it to us. How long did it take? A couple days. Oh, okay. That's actually not us. How long did it take? A couple days.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Oh, okay. That's actually not bad. And for you, it's probably not. Yeah. I know a lot of times over Christmas, it can take two weeks to get out of someone's luggage.
Starting point is 00:32:14 That's crazy. But for you, there's not a big upfront cost. All the stuff in your luggage, you probably got for $9 at Kohl's and you're like, whatever, dude. I'll just head back
Starting point is 00:32:20 and hit the sales, dude. And then Instacart. Yeah. Instacart. I love Instacart. I've been going there for six years. I hate Instacart. I was one of the first shoppers when they first started it up.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You still like it? I love the service. I don't love the pay. Now it's a lot more work for a lot less pay. That's what they do. That's what Uber did. Uber was like, come here, dude. You can make like $75,000.
Starting point is 00:32:46 You're $100,000. We're going to put the taxis out of business. Postmates did it. Caviar has done it. It's happening with DoorDash. It seems crazy. Well, I'm sorry. I'm hearing reports.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I'm seeing it on Twitter and everything. They've surveyed a lot of DoorDashers and Instacarters. And they're like, if the food looks good, about 60% of people will take like a little piece of that have you ever dipped in how do you pack man pizzas no no no are we sure about this i love my high ratings you ever put you ever put uh slipped a little item in on someone's tab no like a pack of gum they told me i could but no i haven't really oh that's nice that's a nice idea they will treat you to like hey you want something to drink yeah yeah that's pretty sweet put it on there but um i what i have done is i've delivered items to the wrong house i've done that definitely yeah it was a gated house um it was a long drive and i dropped their items off the person already
Starting point is 00:33:41 started putting them in the refrigerator then i realized it was wrong person's groceries and they had ice cream and stuff and i had to sit on the porch yeah might have been my house my friend i had the same sex exact same situation happened yeah they were my groceries i could have used those yeah that's crazy dude now do you ever know you could you could do like kind of the sickest double dip of all time if you found out that somebody lost their luggage you got a hold of their luggage and you you did their Instacart, and you brought their groceries and their lost luggage to their house, you might get hit, dude. I hope they tip well. I hope they tip well.
Starting point is 00:34:11 That's a tip. That's all I'm saying. You might get hit. Yeah. Man, dude. Have you always been a gig economist? No. I've actually done many jobs.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I've worked at Ross, Walmart. What was your favorite job? Favorite? United States Postal Service. Really? Wow. Wow. Rainsley's Snow or Hail, baby. jobs i've worked at ross what was your favorite job favorite united states postal service really rain sleeves snow or hail baby yeah it was hard it was a challenge but it's something i loved on i love being outside i love no one breathing down my neck or telling me what to do why'd you stop uh i got a traumatic injury on ah dude don't tell me a dog bite no it wasn't that i witnessed someone get killed oh fuck okay yeah so were you in the hood yeah yeah they'll do it to you it was 12 20 p.m they didn't care 12 20 p.m people walking around
Starting point is 00:34:54 everything it was did they did usps at least take care of you a little bit for the dramatic no no they put me through the ringer i had to basically chase and fight for what i felt like i deserved and ultimately it got to a point where i was like you know what screw it you guys aren't getting me out to safety because i didn't feel safe where i was that's unbelievable to safety i had to fight for to get compensation i said you know what i just throw my hands up damn wow so you just stopped fighting it just kind of went wow i'm blaming. It sucks that you had to stop fighting. They made promises that they weren't meeting, basically. And I was in my psychiatrist. Get them to say, write this recommendation, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I'm checking off the boxes. OK, I'll get this. OK, I'll get this. And they just weren't living up to what they say they would do. Oh, my God. I'm guessing you're like around like Philadelphia when you're doing mail stuff. Yeah, I was. Well, you get loaned out to sister stations as they call them but my main station was 191 20 and 40 that's so that's so close to my zip code i'm not gonna get my zip code out but that's so close you're north philly i was yeah 1911 baby yeah northeast yeah damn dude wow
Starting point is 00:36:00 that's awful that they wouldn't give you any kind of thing i mean did they at least give you a couple days off after to just detox and process? You know, when I called in frantic when this was going on, they told me move down and keep the liver. Oh, my God. Rain, snow, sleet, hail, murder. That's unbelievable. I mean, not to as much. They basically showed me they didn't care.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I was like, okay. And then I was sent back on the same route the very next day. Damn. The same view. The very next day. So you got sent out that day. You witnessed a murder, which is a traumatic, horrific event. And the next day they said, we'll see you in the same place.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Same exact place. I was walking up to the guys as this was going down. Oh, you knew it was going down? I didn't know what was happening. I was on the phone, you know, mailman, talk on the phone. My phone hung up. In the nick of time i'd pull my phone out see what's going on why did my phone call drop walking blindly because i'm looking down at my
Starting point is 00:36:50 phone i'm walking up to the guys i say they were what where's the guy going in the door they were that close and i was right here no drive-by it was just regular shooting i was just standing on the corner right facing one another and you are you back and back and running away like what's i mean you don't have to relive any of this one motion look up from my phone seen it happening turned around ran around the corner hid in a tall grass where abandoned building used to be that's actually impressive because follow me around elderly man gentleman follow me hidden that's impressive because like i think a lot of people think they would do that but i think if i was in that situation i would have just been like in such shock i would just i would just sat there yep and been like holy shit yeah i'm so
Starting point is 00:37:31 sorry yeah that's all we gotta deal with we're laughing they were laughing we ran and hit they live in the duran laughed that we ran and hit i was that's just sad entertainment for them that's like yeah that's like a sad societal thing that's like so above this pay grade. But it's like, damn, that sucks. Well, that was your favorite job. I can't imagine what your worst job was. Ross. I'm not saving the company.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Did we start why that's your favorite job? We didn't start why that was your favorite job. Yeah, he asked what my favorite job was. Oh. Well, can you give us maybe, I mean, first of all, again, I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's horrific. What was the good parts of just being outside and experiencing everything? Being outside, the freedom, delivering mail.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Makes people excited. Dude, you throw some headphones in, then you go to the grocery store. You probably get that with Instacart. You get in a group, and it's just autopilot. You just put mail in the mailboxes and moving on. How were the dogs? They were okay. It was more so the cats, believe it or not. No. They try to swipe you through the mailes and moving on. How were the dogs? They were okay. It was more so the cats, believe it or not.
Starting point is 00:38:27 No. They try to swipe you through the mail slot. Fuck them. And it's supposed to be animal warning cards in your mail, but there weren't. Wow. You were missing a lot of things. Functional vehicles, park points, animal warning cards, a bunch of things. You just sent out and say, here, take the mail, go deliver.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Sure. So you were asking about... Yeah, that was his favorite job. So yeah, what was... I mean, Kyle, what was your... So Ross was your least favorite. Yeah. Why do you hate Ross?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Long hours. Yeah, a lot of work. Pace sucked. Fill up a cart. Nobody shot anyone, sorry. Two items and then leave. Right. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:00 It wasn't the company, it was the experience. Sure. How long... So how long did you work for USPS versus Ross? USPS, one year. Ross, 11 months. Okay. So you were on USPS for one year?
Starting point is 00:39:11 One year. And you saw that within one year? One year. You think that's like somebody who's been there for like 25, 30 years will catch something insane? Yeah. Yeah. So it wasn't pleasant. What's something about the male that like the normal average Joe wouldn't know?
Starting point is 00:39:24 It's very dirty. A lot of hands touch it. It sits in a lot of places. And your hands are black after handling it. No way. Yeah. Damn. Were you apprehensive before you walked out there where you're kind of like,
Starting point is 00:39:35 fuck, I don't really want to do this, but I have to type thing? See, that time, I think it was like my first time on that route in specific. So I really didn't know what I was going into. That was your first time on the route too? Yeah. I was, you get, all right, my title was city carrier assistant. I wasn't a regular. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:52 No regulars do the same route every single day. How long does it take to get to become a regular? Oh, you could be there for a short time. You could be there for many years. It's no telling. It's kind of like a lottery. Yeah. So because I was a, you know, I was here, there, and everywhere, I could be going out to a sister station,
Starting point is 00:40:08 or I could just be going a different route every day. Unless I put a hold down on one route, I would do that route over and over and over and over. That's if it doesn't have a regular. Now, the people that you said that have got their established routes that they're on every day, did you hear any wild stories trying to prepare you for what you might see? Anything they told you, like, look, this is is how it goes this is what it looks like um not wild stories but some uh some things that were counter countering what we were taught in safety they were basically saying telling you to tell the supervisors you're not doing this or you're not doing that because they
Starting point is 00:40:46 have the you know the ability to they they're regulars their grandfather in the system they don't have any worries but i'm like oh that's my supervisor i gotta listen to him and some things the supervisors were telling were not what we should be doing like you gotta jump these fences you gotta run you gotta fill your bag the things that we were told not to do at safety training basically the supervisor was telling us to do what were they telling you if like a dog would come after you pet it um they want us to rely on the uh bag block put the bag between you and the dog and hopefully the spray will fend it off but are you guys in spray yeah dog spray but it worked i never used it i've never heard dog spray did you think about deploying it that day like trying to or you're just like i'm getting out here i'm not even gonna bother well i just didn't know i would i would that would be the only thing
Starting point is 00:41:32 i would think of is like i know i have one thing to defend myself i'm gonna hit it and just you think my man was bringing dog spray to a gunfight right basically perhaps perhaps dude i'm sorry to laugh but i think laughing is the best medicine. Yeah. I agree. Sure. Well, thank God you're still around. Yes, I mean, thank God everything worked out and you're happy now. And you got a cool-ass fucking crotch rocket. Yeah. Yeah, it's electric. That's boogie-woogie.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Boogie-woogie. I thought the same thing. Dude, we are on a fucking wavelength right now. I like this shit. Awesome, man. Well, hey, thank you for coming by. No problem. We really appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Can we make one final request? Sure. Would you mind riding it in front of the camera, just like a quick skirt buy? Look at him. Woo! Thank you, dude. Thank you, brother. Yeah, you too, brother.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I love that guy. I love that guy. He's the man. Such a good perspective on life, that guy. Everything you said, I was just like, God, I want to hug you. Yeah. I like that. You're a lover, man.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I love that you're a lover. After I saw people getting booped and hugged, I said, what the crud? I got to get in on this boop thing. I got to see. The boop counter went high. What did we get? Seven? Eight?
Starting point is 00:42:28 Five? Well, now I cut. On camera. Yeah, on camera, five. Yeah. I think we got around six or seven. Yeah. You got one hug from quarter?
Starting point is 00:42:35 I did. God, the hugs felt so darn good at that furry convention. Every time they grab me, they go. And I go, hello, folks. Something is stiffened up. More at 11. Holy shit, dude. Is that not unbelievable?
Starting point is 00:42:49 I am a gigantic pussy. I don't think it will make people surprised listening to us and stuff. I'd never be the same. No, I wouldn't be able to. I mean, going to work, I call out of work if I just get nervous about an Excel sheet. If I saw somebody being excelled from life, that would be... Because then I'd have to hit them, like, what happened? I'd be looking it up. I'd do a VLOOKUP.
Starting point is 00:43:14 They put their own formula in. They put their own formula in and they say, look, this is spilling over. That is crazy, man. USPS, chill the fuck out, man. Let your people take a day off for the love of God. Damn, dude. That's wild. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I love how that was his favorite job, and Ross was like, he's like, yeah, I did see someone get shot and killed, but man, did one time I had to come over and fold 17 dungarees, and I was livid. That's incredible to be like, yeah, I saw somebody get killed, but I just like being outside, man. What are you, Steve Irwin, dude? Dude, I'm the same way, though, man.
Starting point is 00:43:48 You put some headphones in, you go to the grocery store. I told my fiance the other day, I was like, do you have to come to the grocery store with me? Yeah. She's like, yes, I don't know what I want. I was like, just text me.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Yeah. Like, let me go. I've had that. I love going to the grocery store by myself. But when you do it, do you dress cute? Do you put on like a nice regular? You don't kind of spruce yourself up? Nah.
Starting point is 00:44:08 You want to go out solo with the headphones in. A lot of times I'll dress a little cute. Yeah. I love it. A little cute. Put it on. Hit a Trader Joe. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:44:14 What's up, dude? Come back. Oh, let's go, brother. Hell yeah. You go on this side because we got headphones on this side so you can hear us. How you doing? I'm doing good. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:44:20 What's your first name? Norris. Norris. It's nice. And we're the Man I Wear podcast. We ask people what they do for a living. What do you do for a living? I'm a sales rep for Sherwin-Williams.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Sherwin-Williams? Yep. Nice. Paint, right? Yeah. Sweet. Are you in the city or are you outside the city? Yeah, I'm in the city.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I cover about five little stores. Basically, handle all of the sales and Sherwin-Williams products in those stores. What's the paint business like right now? It's up and down, man. Yeah. Everything's expensive. People don't want to put too much on paint, right? So they just nickel and dime you the whole time? A little bit, a little bit of both, man.
Starting point is 00:44:52 It's not bad. It's not too bad. So what are you on the floor, like talking to people, trying to sell the exact product or what's this look like on a day to day? My main responsibilities is when I train the Lowe's associates to be able to sell our products and talk about them and not just be as much as like an order taker, but can make recommendations and tell you what you kind of can work best for you, I guess. And then second, that is sales. I mean, going towards their contractors, business targeting. Big commercial size businesses, I'm guessing? All of it. All of it.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Sweet. We still got like small like shops, like, need paint and stuff? Or is it more just Lowe's and Home Depot? Really? More than the big ones. Really? Yeah, it is. A lot of individual contractors, especially in paint and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:45:33 And they're everywhere. That's funny, though, because, like, technically, you kind of have a business that, like, won't go out of, like, business, right? Because, like, you can't, until we get, like, AI walls. Yeah. Like, we're going to need paint for like business, right? Because like you can't until we get like AI walls. Yeah. Like we're going to need paint for these walls, right? Like I'm trying to think like what could like
Starting point is 00:45:49 Microsoft paint. Yeah, dude. If someone just starts printing out all their Microsoft paint. Yeah, we're cooked. Artworks. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:45:56 If people like they start bringing their kids like kindergarten artwork home and start pasting against the wall, you might be fucked. Until they do that, I think you're good. Man, Sherwin's everlasting, man.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Sherwin can't be stopped, dude. Sherwin's too nice, dude. They got contracts with the government, man. They do airship carriers. They do all that. They ain't going nowhere. Really? So they're painting ships and shit, too? Yeah, they do coatings for airship carriers that you see and all that. They got divisions for all of that. You know, I kind of am an idiot because I just
Starting point is 00:46:21 assumed that they put the aircraft carriers together and it was just made of steel and steel is silver. Yeah. So like. I'm telling you, it's one of those jobs where you're like, oh, I forgot this is something somebody has to do. Yeah. You don't really think about like all the other things like who puts the lubricants on jet engines, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Somebody got to make that stuff, right? You know what I mean? Is that Sherwin? No. Okay. I'm sorry. He's trying to figure it out too. Someone's doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:43 That might be your next business. I don't think lube is ever going out of style. Yeah. So you're sitting there as a sales rep. Are you upselling, like, making people buy ugly colors because it's a little more expensive? What's this? Be honest with us here, dude. I'm the type of person.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I'm not a pushy salesman, man. I just do it for the experience, to be honest. I don't want to be in sales my whole life. Because no one wants mauve. No. You can't get mauves enough. Enough with the mauve, dude. Please.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Light green? Ew. I'm this pale. I stick out in the mauve room like a glowing lamp, dude. You can't put me in a mauve room. Man, I want the get mauves enough. Enough with the mauve, dude. Light green? Ew. I'm this pale. I stick out in the mauve room like a glowing lamp, dude. You can't put me in a mauve room. I want the money job, man. You would be so surprised how much the people who just sit there and name these colors make. They make so much money.
Starting point is 00:47:14 No way. Probably twice as much as what I make. The people who name the colors of the paint? They just name the colors. That's all they do. They name and make colors. The guy who named Robin Egg blue is probably like a billionaire. It'd be the silliest name.
Starting point is 00:47:23 There's a green called Jeremy's Journey. I see that green so much. So many people buy that, too, and I don't understand it. That literally sounds like a cancer walk. Exactly. That dude literally made a cancer walk. He saw a cancer walk and was like, I'm taking this back to Sherwin and I'm making this. Yeah, I was at Campbell Stadium doing an autism walk for Jeremy's Journey.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Yeah, dude. Holy shit. Dude, we're in the wrong business. We got to switch this up immediately. So they really have a dude and probably they probably have a team. It's not even just like a dude or a girl. Yeah, we're in the wrong business. We got to switch this up immediately. So they really have a dude. And they probably have a team. It's not even just like a dude or a girl. Yeah, they're like designers.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And they just sit in a boardroom. We're just going to go. They name the colors. Maple's Magic Mission. Maple's Mission. Not even a color in that title. They literally go to a diabetes walk on the weekend. And they're like, I'm taking 17 different people's team names.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Wow. I'm making these. I'm bringing this to the conference. And they're all big wigs, too. So they probably get home, pour a glass of whiskey. And they're like, honey, I can't be bothered. I was thinking of colors all day. It's like, dude, I'm too tired.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Is there any other like crazy jobs that you like just look at and like you laugh? To be honest, you wouldn't know what was the craziest job. You wouldn't think it was Amazon, man. Driving for Amazon, you will see the weirdest bags. Have you ever done that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right out of college, that's what I did for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:48:31 You're talking about the guys that are in the big vans and stuff? Deliveries and stuff? Was it drop it off? Damn, that had to be wild. Dogs. Dogs. So we had a mailman on earlier. Dogs.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And he didn't really have any dog experience. He had a worse experience. Yeah. He was with a couple other dogs. A couple were mad um but uh but yeah i gotta assume that like you guys your head has to be on a swivel every single day dude's trying to break into the van people that you're delivering to him maybe not the safest places on the street no one can fucking drive nowadays not at all and then you gotta be on such a strict time frame while doing people that you're delivering to them maybe not the safest places on the street no one can fucking drive nowadays not at all and then you got to be on such a strict time frame while doing all that
Starting point is 00:49:10 and you got to do with traffic and all that what do they got you running at now what do they have you running at like i know us i know ups was um they were uh they automated like the entire truck to make sure like to cut like only seven seconds wow no amazon wasn't that crazy but they first of all they source it out it's like a third party that'll do the driver hire the drivers and do it um like your own car too or you get a truck you can you can i've seen people with their own car doing yeah so if you do the the vans you work through a dispatch which is like through a third party company but you can do like amazon flex they call it where you can drive your car and just drop off Amazon packages. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:46 So what was the time? Like, would you get a, hey, you got to do this package in like seven minutes and 30 seconds? Or how did it kind of go? No, it's not broken down like that. It's more so like hourly. So like the average they'll want you to do is probably about 20, a minimum, like 20 stops an hour, right? You'll probably get about on a busier day, 180 stops. Holy shit. Around Christmas
Starting point is 00:50:10 time, it gets crazy. You'll have like over 300 packages in that little ass van. It's not a big thing. Oh my god. But you gotta get through there. That's what makes it tough, honestly. It's just not the worst job. Good pay? I guess, yeah. So like, how's it kind of go because like i've never
Starting point is 00:50:25 done it but i see it all the time goddamn fucking fiance keeps in business oh my god um who you telling dude so when you're when you're doing it like do you get a do you get a set fee like hey you're gonna go out here do 300 packages here's a thousand dollars for the day or something that or is it like by by package your rate like what's your rate so you get an hourly rate through the vans like through the third parties i don't know if the flex they might do it on flex like that what was the rate back in the day when you were doing it i think i started at like 1750 so it's not that great no no no that's not great again you do get tips in our work no i mean some customers would but not really um christmas, you'll get a lot.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Incentives? Could you be like, all right, you deliver that package in record time. Here's an extra dollar? No, no, no. Not at all. Fucking Bezos. That's the worst part of Jeff Bezos getting jacked. Beforehand, you could be like, I kicked that pussy's ass. And then he comes back, and he's huge.
Starting point is 00:51:17 You're like, God damn it, he'd snap me in half. And his fucking plastic wife could kick my ass, too. Yeah, dude. Jacked, too. I'll take both their asses down. Jeff, if you're watching this, let's have a word. I'm happy that you're
Starting point is 00:51:28 at Sherwin-Williams now. You seem to like it a lot more. Oh, yeah, man. It's a lot more freedom. Nice. Like I said, I work in the Lowe's business unit, so I'm on the move all the time.
Starting point is 00:51:35 So you're going back to around to different Lowe's and stuff? Yeah, I cover five of them. I've always liked Lowe's a lot. Yeah. I liked it better than Home Depot. It felt cleaner. It smelled better.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And I just thought it was better. The peopleot it felt cleaner it smelled better um and i just thought it was was better the people were nicer yeah um my dad worked for home depot really i shouldn't be a lowes guy but what was the issue with home depot when he was working it was always dirty everything places were just lanes were always shut down uh like wood planks would just be in the aisle and stuff in lowes like it is so organized well am I wrong no you're not and they also they're better for military people shout out to our brothers and sisters of course overseas well I guess that's one of the places you can't complain about the cleanliness because if you complain to like some hard-working dude who's like working with his
Starting point is 00:52:15 hands and it's like it's a little dirty in here it's like dude why don't you hit the roller rink I love that um what's some tidbits you can give us about like Lowe's and stuff? Like when you go in there, like what's a day-to-day like for you? Like I kind of mentioned earlier, just making sure they're all caught up to date with the promotions running. Like I'm just Sherwin. So, you know, I'm taking the lead on everything Sherwin in there. Again, just make sure they're trained up on the new products that we got rolling out. Make sure they know the promotions.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Make sure they're actually targeting contractors and not just DIYs. Just make sure Contractors are your bread and butter. You don't want little mom and pop coming in and being like we got to paint the den. They're stuck in COVID mindset too because they were, oh my god.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Who is? All the companies, honestly. What's COVID mindset? What do you mean by that? the DIY market man everybody had money to spend you know because everybody's getting that money wow okay it's a little different now so is it yeah so what do you mean by them being stuck in the COVID mindset is that good for you or is that bad for you uh bad for us because I have a budget to maintain I'm guessing yeah you're like you like you if you got to sell like 10 pallets, you might be only selling like seven pallets now. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Because they're doing more small projects and stuff? The DIYs, everybody was home. You know what I mean? So you got your whole family at home. Everybody's looking at the house like, damn,
Starting point is 00:53:34 I ain't got shit to do. Why not paint the house? You know what I mean? They were rolling in money. And now their numbers are so inflated because of that. It's like,
Starting point is 00:53:41 they're realizing it though. They're taking it down a little bit. You think that'll course correct? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. They're taking it down a little bit. You think they're, of course, correct? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. They don't have no choice. Can't make the investors unhappy.
Starting point is 00:53:49 True. Good point. 100%. Good point, yeah. 100%. Nah, man, this is interesting. I never thought of it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Yeah. Nice. Anything else? Thanks to the paint game. I didn't realize it was this, I didn't realize we had sales reps. Dude, this is why I love this podcast
Starting point is 00:54:02 because we just find out dumb shit. We just ask thoughtful, dumb guy questions. That's all we got. And we figure out about paint and how much money you Dude, this is why I love this podcast, because we just find out dumb shit. We just ask thoughtful, dumb guy questions. That's all we got, dude. And we figure out about paint and how much money you can make on paint. I mean, hey, you can make a lot of money in the paint business. Yeah, I love that, dude. I brag, dude.
Starting point is 00:54:12 You get as many shank sandwiches as you want, dude. Dude, you're like God damn exhibit a little bit. We put a shank inside of your shank, dude. We got West Coast Customs over here. I love that. Yeah, I saw the other day they put an MRI machine in the back of this nurse's hatchback. Yeah. They did.
Starting point is 00:54:27 What is the point of... Why does a nurse need an MRI machine? I wish somebody would put fucking air conditioning in my car. This has been a nightmare. It's been the worst
Starting point is 00:54:36 decision of my life. It's only been two months. All right, man. We'll let you get back to your cheesesteak. Thank you, bro. Appreciate you coming on. That was awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:54:42 It was a lot of fun. Of course, man. How you doing? How are you? How are you? What's going on? Good was awesome, man. It was a lot of fun. Of course, man. How are you doing? How are you? How are you? Good. I hope that phone call was at least some business. It definitely was.
Starting point is 00:54:50 That's fine by me then. Gotta make the money, right? I love that. Very nice. I love that. What's your first name? Maya. Maya.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I'm Kyle. This is Matt. What's up? All right. Nice to meet you both. What do you do for a living? So I am a registered nurse and I'm a new business owner of a med spa. Med spa? Med spa. Where can people find you? Yeah. So a registered nurse and I'm a new business owner of a med spa. Med spa? Where can
Starting point is 00:55:05 people find you? Yeah. So Regmar Beauty and Wellness. I'm located at 2250 East Allegheny Avenue. Got it. Yeah. So right in the Port Richmond Fishtown section of the city. Sweet. I love Fishtown. Yeah. How's it going so far? It's going good. And you can pat that down. One day we'll buy a, what do they call it? Tablecloths? The day will not be today. That's fine. That's fine. So MedSpa. MedSpa. What's that entail? So I offer services like Botox, IV hydration. We do wellness shots as well. I just incorporated a weight loss, a weight loss medical program. So we do compounded semaglutide. We do. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. Keep going. I have so many questions. I might be seeing you soon. I bet you do.
Starting point is 00:56:01 So more targeted for the men. Everyone's goals are different, right? But, um, I also offer a lipo mino mix injection. It's a vitamin injection. Um, so you lose weight, but it helps you maintain that muscle mass still. So, um, I don't have to worry about that. Boulders for shoulders. Back in the day. Wait, wait. So why'd your ears perk up? Oh, I heard the semaglutide is like a very popular thing now, right? It is. That's like going around. It is.
Starting point is 00:56:28 That's like in Ozempic or that's similar to it? So what I offer is the compounded version. So Ozempic is something very different. What I do is the compound version. So it's very similar, but it's not the same thing. It works fairly the same, but it's not. Do you have to get a shot? You do.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah, I'm out. But remember, I'm gentle. I'm gentle. I don't care. I've been a nurse for six years, so I'm no stranger to poking people up. So I got some experience under my belt. You won't even feel it. You give me an IV, I am trembling on the table, passed out.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Come to me. I bet you won't be. I bet you I will. I bet you to me. I bet you won't be. I bet you I will. I bet you I will. I bet you won't be. I've had the softest hands east of the Mississippi touch my veins. That was me, too. And I passed out.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah. That's crazy. How long have you been open? So since May. May 25th was our grand opening. Thank you. Thank you. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah, that's really great. Anything else perk your interest over there? Well, I'm kind of curious. Is there, when you're opening like a beauty kind of focused endeavor, if I lived in the area, if somebody opened a beauty focused place, I'd be offended and be like, oh, you think we're all ugly around here? We think we need you? I'm only here to enhance the beauty.
Starting point is 00:57:35 So I'm only here to educate and enhance. She's good. I am good. You didn't say it, but I said it. There are some mongrels in Port Richmond. I heard Port Richmond. I haven't seen them. I haven't seen them. There are some mongrels in Port Richmond. I heard Port Richmond. Oh, my goodness. I haven't seen them.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I haven't seen them. There are some mongrels. We actually did, you know where the Planet Fitness is? Yes. Yeah, we actually did a podcast outside the Planet Fitness. Okay, which one? Aramingo? Aramingo, yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Mongrels. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Well, when they leave me, they don't look like that. I promise. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm a marketing.
Starting point is 00:58:02 So Botox is big with the ladies. My girlfriend, I feel like. And men. And men. Really? And men. Do you get a lot of men coming in for the, is it facial Botox? A nice amount.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah, so I also do men's facials. When they come in, do they like wear a hat and sunglasses so that no one sees them coming in? Some of them do. Some of them. A little incognito type thing, you know. But you got to think about all the male actors too, right? They're always on the screen. So, you know, they're no stranger to Botox either. you know what hollywood actors are in port richmond me brad
Starting point is 00:58:31 pittsburgh dude yeah yeah yeah so um you know what's the next thing up so obviously like botox is big ozempic has just lit the world on fire. It has. What's the next thing would you say that people are starting to maybe latch on to? Still the IV hydration. So even IV hydration is basically when we hook you up to an IV. I'm out. And for that, I'm out. And we insert the vitamins. There's all different kinds.
Starting point is 00:59:00 So I have one that's geared towards athletes, people just to help with like workout recovery, still give them energy, but still help with the amino acids and everything. And then I have the immunity drip. So, you know, the seasons are starting to change. People are traveling a lot, going back to school. They're going to be around the kids and whatnot. All of that fatigue wears down on our immune system. So, you know, I have an immunity drip for that. I have another one for hair, skin, and nails.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It's infused with biotin. Biotin's a big one. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. So whatever you need, I got you. Yeah. I didn't know this about you. Biotin's big, dude. I didn't know you were studying all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Dude, I have nine monsters a day. It's like biotin and B12 is ravaging my body. Yeah, it's pretty bad. You better come to me. We got to cleanse you out. What happens? How do you? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:59:48 If you have a guy like me who's just absolutely pounding monsters in Celsius, what's the regimen you would put me on to kind of cleanse this? Right. So glutathione is a drip that I also have. It's literally called Cleanse Me Out. So glutathione is great for liver health. It helps with cellular repair and helps fight inflammation. I told you I'm your girl. I got whatever you need. I know your girl. I got whatever you need.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I got. I sure do. We'll be paying a visit. Don't worry about that. You're dealing with a human Chernobyl over here. Yeah, so we have B12 injections. We have a triple immunity vitamin injection. That's great for people with seasonal allergies, people who travel a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:21 That has glutathione, zinc, as well as vitamin C. So that helps all with the immunity. So the people who travel a lot that has glutathione zinc as well as vitamin c so that helps all with the immunity okay so the people who uh just run from needles do you have anything for them my heart and a kind a very kind stick and you get a lollipop after softest hands east of the mississippi and you know what they all did. No, you don't. But you know what? I'm telling you, man. Softest hands east of the Mississippi. And you know what? They all did the same thing. You haven't had mine yet.
Starting point is 01:00:48 They hurt me. Yeah, well, you got to go to her. You got to go to her girl, man. She's going to hook you up, dude. Are people still doing the hangover IVs? I know they were big for a little bit. I don't have one specifically geared towards that. You know, we're all about wellness.
Starting point is 01:01:00 So, you know, we're all adults. Of course, people go out and drink all the time, you know. But for sure, if they want to come to me after they've had, you know if we're all adults of course people go out and drink all the time you know but um for sure if they want to come to me after they've had you know a fun night out then we got something yeah that's a nice way to put it this is awesome fuck it one more time before you get out of here yes so it's regmar beauty and wellness located at 2250 east allegheny avenue yes we'll be there we will thank you 50 of us will be Okay. I look forward to seeing you guys. I'll hold his hand while you poke him. That's fine. You won't need to, though. I think he's
Starting point is 01:01:29 the big boy, and I think, I don't know, but I'll have a lollipop for both of you. This is the first time anyone has ever called him the alpha of this podcast. Is it? Uh-oh. Can you believe that? I can't. I can't believe it. Well, thank you for having me.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Yes. You want to come on? Let's go. Get over here, will you? Let's go.
Starting point is 01:01:51 This is Ed. Ed is the owner of Shanks. Dude, you're a natural. You already went for the headphones and everything. Good for you. And for the, it's a little hot, all right? But I know you're back there on the grill. Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I'm telling you. So, Ed. What's not as hot as it is back there. Sure. I'm telling you. So, Ed, you've owned the Shanks for how long? A little over two years now. Damn. Yeah. It's gone through a couple hands, right, in the last 12 years or so? It has.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Exactly. Yeah, yeah. The family owned it the first 50 or so years, a little less than that. Since it's been here, I'm the fourth owner. Fourth owner. Yeah. And it's a really cool spot. It's right in the middle of Pier 40, which is abandoned but getting renovated. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And the Coast Guard. Right, right. So you get a lot of blue collar. We get a ton from the Coast Guard. Yeah, blue collar. That's it. That's good. We get all the construction guys, local crews.
Starting point is 01:02:39 The guys building 95 up there and all. Oh, really? They all hang out here? Yep. Nice, man. Nice. How about that? People always tell me about shanks. 95 up there and all that. Oh, really? They only live there? Yep. Nice, man. Nice. How about that? People
Starting point is 01:02:45 always tell me about shanks, and it's so funny because it's like, if you're driving on, like, Delaware Ave, it's, like, kind of hard to miss if you're going, like, you know, 40 or whatnot. But people are like, dude, stop there. It's underrated. It doesn't get the love it gets and stuff. Does that bother you, or do you like that people are like, hey, this is kind
Starting point is 01:03:01 of my thing, man. I don't want anyone to know about this. Yeah, no, well, I mean, of course, don't keep it a secret. Tell everybody. But I know being set back off the street, we hear that at least once a day. Like, I drive by here all the time, didn't even know you were here. And then they come in and they usually come back.
Starting point is 01:03:15 So let's just get them in the door, you know? So is it just word of mouth? Have you thought about putting like some big ass high rise sign or anything? Or it's just like, as much as you want to have more business, is it kind of cool to have this like... The word of mouth is the best yeah yeah yeah yeah because that makes you you know you're doing something right you're not just you know I mean you could get them in by
Starting point is 01:03:30 spending the money but I like it this way I like that definitely uh just having random podcasts come out and just uh harass your guests yeah exactly yeah um have you always been in the cheesesteak business I have been in the food business most of my adult life yeah how to start I started in 2004 when the ballpark opened I worked in uh Tony Luke's actually in the food business most of my adult life, yeah. How to start? I started in 2004 when the ballpark opened. I worked in Tony Luke's, actually. In the ballpark? Yeah, in the ballpark. I was an employee at Aramark at the time.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And at the end of the summer, some of the family was working and staying in there. They offered me a job after the summer. Sweet. And then it just snowballed from there. I worked at a couple different shops in South Philly. Most of my tenure was there. Any weed, though? Well well two street pizza is closed i worked there a long time but they're closed now that was like my neighborhood that was that was in my neighborhood spot none of the other big ones so you're a philly guy yeah oh yeah where'd you grow up philly
Starting point is 01:04:18 south philly second street second street oh there you go the mummers and everything fired up love that two street bar dude Are you a Mummer? Yes. What's your brigade? Carolina Home. Nice. Are you guys like, what are you part of? Like fancy?
Starting point is 01:04:30 Wenches. Wenches, yes. Nice. Nice. Every year? Every year. Does it shut down on January 1st? Yep.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I like that. Yes, we do. Nice. Good move. Good move. I like that. Got to start working early. Got a 5 a.m. shift up here, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Hell yeah. I like that. Very nice. The wenches need you, man. Yep. So you started under Tony Luke working at the ballpark. Did you take anything from the Tony Luke cheesesteak that you've kind of inspired what you guys have here? I wouldn't say I took anything from their cheesesteak, but I definitely learned a ton working for Nicky over there. Oh, so you worked for the dad?
Starting point is 01:05:00 Well, yeah, Nicky's one of the sons. Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was before they had the whole shit. Yeah, yeah. And I worked under him. I worked at a lot of the time at their commissary. He wasn't even on the grill, but I learned a ton about food.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Really? Yeah. So that was. So it's funny. You and Matty over here actually have a Tony Luke. We have a Tony Luke connection. Yeah. Hey, what's up?
Starting point is 01:05:20 I made a song with Tony Luke about a year ago. Oh, wow. Everybody, you should check it out. What's it called, Matt? Look, dude, I didn't learn. It might be called Flippy Flops. I don't know. I'd have to double check.
Starting point is 01:05:30 It's exactly what it's called. It's a fucking banger. A summer banger. No way. Run up the numbers, because we've only got a couple more weeks to the summer, baby. Hit up Flippy Flops, dude. Let it rip. Remind my family and friends that that's a thing that exists.
Starting point is 01:05:43 And ruin barbecues for me. Yeah. Yeah, man. We've learned, we've studied under Tony Luke. So you said you learned a lot of stuff. Is it a lot of just like how to run a restaurant or more of like how to just the food side of it? You know, um, just, they put a lot of passion into it. They, you know, it wasn't, they didn't just throw anything together. Everything was fresh and that's kind of what I brought here. Everything. I mean, and they were already doing that here. I just, but I put my own little touch on things when I, once I became the owner. Okay. I got to ask.
Starting point is 01:06:09 What role? Lysios. Okay. Lysios, shout out. My classmates. Yeah. So why not Amorosos or why not, what's the other big one? Versus.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Sarkones. Yeah, we've had Sarkones. I just find that Lysios has been the most consistent for us got it that's a thing with people man I was an Amoroso guy growing up and I started working in the bar business and it was Lysio's Lysio's Lysio's
Starting point is 01:06:35 so I think I became a Lysio's role guy I remember when Wawa stopped doing Amoroso you would have thought they said they were closing up shop they were going to business people freaked one thing I want to know is stopped doing Amoroso, you would have thought they said they were closing up shop. Right, right. They're going to business. Yeah. People freaked. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:46 It's a big deal. One thing that I want to know is, like, you hear about it all the time, like, just with, like, how high, you know, it is just to run a business. But with you and stuff, food costs, logistics and everything, what's it take to, like, run a business in 2024 right now? It's hard. It's hard. We're constantly having to raise our prices.
Starting point is 01:07:04 And people don't love that. But it's, I mean, we're getting nailed on the other end. I think, like,'re constantly having to raise our prices and people don't love that, but it's, I mean, we're getting nailed on the other end. I think like we're putting more in our pockets, you know, that that's the hardest part is, is dealing with that, the ever changing cost of everything, not just the food, the bills go up, you know, rent, the electric, yeah, everything. And nothing, nothing stays the same anymore. Nothing's ever fixed cost. Is it now, is it just like raising along with it or do you have to get creative to find ways where you can kind of save a little money here save a little money there type thing yeah um yeah you can't really i mean the cost is the i mean i try to save a little bit by going to different places
Starting point is 01:07:36 to different vendors to purchase food some some will have a better deal on it but i mean if you're going to get quality stuff you're going to pay for it yeah it's fair could be like the taco bell taco bell apparently like they got all the shit about their ground beef and all the meats they use. Apparently, they use end-of-life cows to get the ground beef. I love the bell. I love the bell. It's a good thing. It's good.
Starting point is 01:07:53 They're not raising them to take them back down. They let them die naturally, and then they ground it up. Are you familiar with what it looks like on the actual sourcing side? No, no. Well, I actually learned a little bit about a lot of a lot actually from this company that i'm getting the steak from now that um i didn't even know that this was a thing but so a lot of times when you go and get a cheesesteak it's ribeye it's from a dairy cow so it was just it did its job as a dairy cow and then they moved on from it and used it for meat
Starting point is 01:08:18 but it's not that great of meat yeah i didn't know anything about that and they came and explained this to me and they put this in front of me there this is from a steer and i'm like okay what i said i took one bite and i'm like wow i could tell the difference yeah yeah what was the big difference like taste wise it was just more tender and just more flavorful okay what's the big seller here the cheesesteaks are the biggest okay chicken cutlets are my my favorite i heard you guys had yeah awesome chicken cutlets yeah that's what I recommend to people. Okay. And the funny thing is about chicken cutlets is as popular they are in the city,
Starting point is 01:08:51 I feel like it's so hard to find a good one. Yeah, right. You can find a good cheesesteak. And like, I mean, within a mile here, there's 10 top-notch cheesesteaks. He looked at me, the guy was crazy. South Jersey guy. Yeah, yeah. No, literally 10 like iconic shops that you've definitely heard of within a mile and a half.
Starting point is 01:09:08 He's like, what's your favorite cheesesteak? I'm like, yeah, there's great cheesesteaks out there, but the one that's the closest to me around the corner is, I think, just as good. It's not the best of the best, but it's serviceable and you can get it in 15 minutes instead of waiting in a 30-minute line to get it. I don't know, dude. I've heard all this stuff about all the cheesesteak guys working together. It feels like there's an Illuminati of cheesesteak places where you're all just sowing discourse
Starting point is 01:09:28 so we all try our places together. Yeah. What if you guys band together and got the prices down? Right? Yeah. What are they going to do then? I love that.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Get the ribeye cows, man. Get the dairy cows. The cheesesteak council. Yeah, the high council. Call up Tony Luke. Let's get him on it. I don't think he's going to answer my calls anymore.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Song didn't really go gold, so not even silver. What can he do then? Unless the people run it up. Yeah, sure. We'll get him next time. What's one thing that people would be surprised on that you spend on? Maybe not even food stuff, but napkins or something like that. All the paper supplies.
Starting point is 01:10:01 You know what costs me the most, to be honest with you? It's keeping criminals out since I bought this place. Really? I spent the most money on building that gate back there and, like, reinforcing the windows. Yeah. Seriously. Oh, my God. Cameras, all that.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Yeah. That's probably been, like, my most, the one cost that I didn't see coming in. Got it. What's in the back? Just, like, all of a sudden. We have, yeah, storage. We have a freezer, a walk-in freezer. Like, that was broken into one time before we didn't have the fence.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Oh, my God, dude. They broke in and stole, like, a piece, a hunk of meat. It was, freezer, a walk-in freezer. That was broken into one time before we didn't have the fence. Oh, my God, dude. They broke in and stole a piece, a hunk of meat. It was a couple years back. Just raw meat? Yeah, and a bag of pepperoni. No shit, Kyle. Damn. I'm sorry about that, dude.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I was hungry. I was starving that night. Dude, that's insane. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Just the thing. It wasn't what I expected. Sure, of course, of course.
Starting point is 01:10:42 It's the thing that takes to run a business in Philadelphia No, it's gotta be yeah amount of stress. It's gotta be non-stop Is it kind of sick like you own a cheesesteak? Oh, it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. Like this comes from you it's like it's like a it's like a It's like the pursuit of happiness kind of like with with you start in 2004. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really is. Yeah, it's called Full Circle. Nice.
Starting point is 01:11:06 So what's the plan in five years? Would you want to franchise this place? I don't know about a franchise. There's definitely a Shanks 2 going to be in the future. Nice. Me and my wife have talked about maybe down the shore or something. Oh, sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:17 So over in South Jersey, huh? Yeah. Not so bad after all. There's a shortage, though. There is a shortage. God damn it. Should cheesesteak shops, like, should they expand more? You see Wawa kind of going westward now.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Like, do you think cheesesteaks should be like, hey, maybe Ohio has a terrible cheesesteak? I don't know how it hasn't. Yeah. I mean, I hear everybody says it's just the bread. It's the bread. The bread's not the same because the meat is the meat. You can get the meat anywhere. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:44 They say it's the bread. Can't get it out there the water something in the philly water dude so it's like bagels with new york new york people come down like the bagels aren't the same yeah right that's what i that's what it's got to be the water what else is different yeah there's really nothing else beautiful delaware baby exactly right well i gotta ask you i mean as somebody who owns like it's one of the most famous regional foods like a cheesesteak in Philly is world renowned. Could you think of like three other cities and their famous food that you could rank that's close to a Philly cheesesteak? I don't really know. I haven't been to too many of them, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Like a Boston lobster roll. Yeah. Southwest Chicago. Chicago beef. I like the beef. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The beef's really good. I've heard that's really good i haven't had one though okay do you get sick of cheesesteaks no wow i eat cheesesteaks three times a week okay that's i
Starting point is 01:12:32 think that's good if you own a cheesesteak shop and you only eat three times a week i think that's actually modest yeah sometimes more but yeah i'd say on average three i'd say it'd be a tough thing to sell if you owned a cheesesteak place you're like i'm fucking sick of them yeah yeah yeah i bounce back and forth between the cutlets and the cheesesteaks place, you're like, I'm fucking sick of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it was a... I bounce back and forth between the cutlets and the cheesesteaks. Nice. So we know Shank's is the best in the city. What are your other favorites?
Starting point is 01:12:51 Other than Shank's? Well, Shank's is the best in the city. Shank's is number one. Shank's is number one. That's tough, man. I haven't... I really haven't been to too many of them lately. So like back in the day,
Starting point is 01:13:00 Jim's on South Street was always my go-to. That was my go-to. Tony Luke's. always liked them. Tony and Nick's now. Yeah, I don't really know. I haven't been to Angelo's. Shame on me. I haven't been there.
Starting point is 01:13:16 How many people can tell you how good it is until you're like, you know what, I'll just take your word for it and I won't sit in line for an hour? Yeah, I wish I could just get my hands on the roll and slap my own on there. The roll is cool. That's what I hear, it's the roll. Yeah. I wish I could just get my hands on the roll and slap my own on there. The roll is cool. Because that's what I hear. It's the roll. Yeah, the roll is a very good roll. Do you experiment any?
Starting point is 01:13:30 I know you guys have the Philly Special, which you put Scrapple in. That's what I'm going to get because I never really had Scrapple growing up. So I'm really excited to try it and stuff. Wow. Nice. So how do you experiment and stuff? Like you said, you can't eat a cheesesteak every day, but if you variate it a little bit, then it works out.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Like we have one that's got long hots and bacon on it. Nice. And mayonnaise. It's not on the menu yet. A lot of people know about it because we ran a special on it. It's on our online menu, but not here. It's called the Jawn. The Jawn, nice.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And put a little bit of mayonnaise on it. We toast the roll. Long hots, bacon, Cooper Sharp. Ooh, long hots bacon. Super sharp. I'm starving. Yeah. I'm just waiting on this podcast till I can eat this. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Do people get upset when you kind of mess with the cheesesteak a little bit or you kind of just screw you? It's my business. Yeah, nobody gets upset. I mean, you don't have to order it if you don't like it. I like that. Just get the traditional if that's how it is. Sure. See, I'm big into like, you know, when you bring up a cheesesteak,
Starting point is 01:14:24 everybody has their favorite spot. If you go to Pat's and Gino's, you're a tourist. Yeah, I'm big into like, you know, when you bring up a cheesesteak, everybody has their favorite spot. If you go to Pat's and Gino's, you're a tourist. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, dude, it all does the same thing. Yeah. It all goes in our belly. Whatever you like is what you like. And it's hard to find a bad one, to be honest. Truly. Yeah. Yeah. At the average, maybe, but there's not really many bad ones. Absolutely. I'm like, dude, I'm drunk regardless I'm gonna enjoy it it's kinda rude I can't wait
Starting point is 01:14:46 awesome man well hey do you have anything else no this was great thanks for stopping by thanks for letting us hang out here this was a lot of fun
Starting point is 01:14:52 thanks for coming man dude if this podcast blows up maybe we can get our own little cheesesteak on the Kyle and Matt it's just mayonnaise
Starting point is 01:15:00 and bread it's the whitest guy sandwich of all time American cheese orange and just potatoes because that's my family crop alright there you go it all went belly up in Ireland mayonnaise and bread. It's the whitest guy sandwich. American cheese, orange. Yeah. And just potatoes because that's my family crop. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:08 There you go. It all went belly up in Ireland. I'll eat it. Let's do it. Hey, come down to Shank's Original. Shank's Original. And get you a cheesesteak. Columbus Boulevard.
Starting point is 01:15:15 It's a diamond in the rough. Yes, sir. Awesome. Thanks so much, man. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. No, thank you for that. Usually we're getting kicked out of places.
Starting point is 01:15:22 No, no. You invited us in. Hell yeah, man. All right. Well, that's the episode. We got to go get some cheesesteaks from Shank's Originals. Thank you to Shank's for letting us sit out here and bother customers and talk to Ed, the owner, and everything. Come by if you're ever on Delaware or Ave. And you're heading anywhere on Delaware or Ave.
Starting point is 01:15:36 It's a diamond in the rough. You can't miss it. Any dates you got to plug? Yeah, I got a couple coming up. September 7th, we'll be at the Talk More Cafe, I think it's called, in Philly. We have a lot of stuff at the end of August that I've overbooked myself. So check out the Instagram. I'm posting those up.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Check the flyers. Come hang out to a show if you're a fan of the pod. I think you'll enjoy my stand-up comedy. And yeah, come hang. Yeah, I actually don't even know how many people are going to make it to the end. But if you do, we are going to do a live show. We have a date in mind. I don't want to say it yet.
Starting point is 01:16:05 One, because I don't remember it. Two, because I don't want to say it yet. One, because I don't remember it. Two, because I don't want to say it yet because we haven't really booked anything. But we are going to do a live show where we want people to come out and we'll pull you from the live audience. You'll come up on stage. You'll, you know, do it. Tell us what you do. And it's just going to be a podcast except it's going to be live. Same thing.
Starting point is 01:16:19 We'll just say it'll be the same thing you're seeing now. We'll just be in front of you and drinking. So that'll be really it. Yep. So, hey, thanks, everybody, for tuning in. Our blue-collar furries, our white-collar furries, and our middle-class furries. Furries. Peace.

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