Men At Work Podcast - NASCAR CHAOS: Weather Delays, Racing in Philly, & the Governor!

Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work podcast. We are here in the Poconos at the Tricky Triangle Pocono Raceway, and it's absolutely pissing on us right now, honestly. Yeah, the forecast called for not rain. No. And then the forecast said, how about lightning and rain all at the same time? Extreme heat. We thought we were gonna sweat our asses off. It turns out we're actually just going to get caught in a monsoon and everything and now we're gonna be wet. Yeah at a major outdoor event No warning whatsoever with look we're excited that the clientele here. They look great I don't know that I want to see these people soaking wet and I'm sure they don't see me so

Starting point is 00:00:36 And that's totally fine. That's true. You see a couple of these people soaking wet. It's gonna be Lot of involuntary wet t-shirt competition amongst guys named Craig in their early 40s and that's fine because I'm pumped to be here. This is my first time at what is it Pocono Speedway? Raceway? Pocono Raceway and we're not big NASCAR dudes. Speak for yourself. Yeah okay dude. Bobby Labani did you see this? Yeah I see it dude. Bobby Labani you had a Dale Jr. you had a Dale Jr. shirt on until you got a little cold. Yeah, daddy got a little cold out here. Whoopsie.

Starting point is 00:01:07 We bought Vito a Jeff Gordon shirt. We're basically race guys. Yes. Well, careful. We love race. We do love race. All races. Bristol, Watkins Glen, Daytona, Indy. Do we get a full context of what's also happened throughout the day? I mean, we had a busy, for how rainy and shitty it was, we had a busy morning so far. Yeah, we've been down here with like Visit PA,

Starting point is 00:01:31 we're down here with the governors making an appearance and everything, so we just sat through that. We got to see him again, our one-time guest, Governor Shapiro, which was hilarious because he brought his kid over to talk to us. And the first thing he goes is Do you want to tell him your Caitlin Clark take when there's Angel Reese? Angel Reese?

Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, do you want to tell him even worse? You want to tell him your Angel Reese take where there's 15 cameras on right now? You just watched me Kyle and his entire team tense up like okay here we go. This is happening What is it like she stinks like god damn it. He just he just lost Chicago based He's never gonna win out. He's never gonna win He's never gonna win Louisiana. I can't believe Louisiana's not gonna come out and vote for the Gov in a couple years People got three years to forget. We'll be alright. Yeah cut the Gov who knows Kyle And I don't want to you know big up the guy first name bassist pagan there called him dude

Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, did he put me on the spot? He said hey how many turns are in a regular NASCAR race? You answer more confidence was it confident you answered so boomingly confident There's a table behind you and their hair blew back you answered with a war you had a war regular NASCAR race. I was like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck,

Starting point is 00:02:31 fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck into the podcast, we will. Yes, you'll see it right here. We'll see how many turns you normally have. Kyle, you got your butt off the couch. That's the question. How many turns are there? Four. Four, right.

Starting point is 00:02:52 Because it's an oval. Here we got a triangle. We do everything different and better right here in Pennsylvania. Pocono has to be so much fun in the rain. If you're out there just drinking beers. Oh dude. They're just doing

Starting point is 00:03:06 slipping slides. Yeah. Just guys in Chase Elliott, Denny Hamlin, Jeff Gordon, Cut-Off Tees. These colors don't run. Iran just got bombed. This is the first race since we've gone to war. This is going to be, this is a monumental moment. This was 2003. This is a seminal moment in American history. And by the way, if you want to intimidate the Iranians, send a live stream of whatever's happened to that parking lot and be like, are you sure? Because we're sending the military over equipped with seven Miller lights and they don't know how to act. That is true. Half these guys in this infield next week are going to be in Tehran.

Starting point is 00:03:43 Yes. And the worst part is they started drinking last night at 8 PM. And they were like, we done bombed them. Honey, I'm going to the Laker Store. You want anything? They started today. A lot of people would take last night off to get here to tailgate early.

Starting point is 00:03:55 They just kept the party going. 100%. And you can't leave this joint until you blow 0.08. Yes. If you blow less than 0.08 they keep you here overnight yes until then then and pump you full of alcohol you get the right you're good to go now you can drive now you're not gonna do you get an IUD yeah I I tell you right now I'll get veto veto can you get a shot of that flag if I

Starting point is 00:04:22 ran saw this flag right now they would would never fucking test us. Yeah, look at the size of the flag at Pocono. I mean that is now all those stars Those are stars of David now 50 stars of David That as is Stevie Ross is that fuck yep God damn. Yeah, this is been a busy day It's one of those things we're like we go and we go to these we haven't done like an event like an actual outdoor event They do the pot and let's be honest. It's been catastrophic. It's been as best

Starting point is 00:04:53 I woke these guys up at 630 in the morning and said we got to get there. We got to do content It's gonna be an all-day kind of thing we got here around 930 the event with visit PA and the gov didn't start till about 11 And we've done jack shit sitting with our dick in our hands because it's been lightning, it's been raining. People telling us we can't go to the infield. People telling us, God forbid you find a media tent around here. I don't want to shit on Pocono. They're really nice people. We will have the president of Pocono later on today. Man, I know the security is probably contracted out, so I probably think we can show them. Nobody, dude, absolutely no idea where anything is,

Starting point is 00:05:27 where anything goes, up, down, sideways, everywhere. If you're looking to lose weight, start a podcast where you go on site and just get redirected nonstop. I think I already have like 10,000 steps and it's 12 p.m. We walked the entire track, it was crazy. Who says podcasters live in their miles basements? No, we walk four miles just to start the podcast.

Starting point is 00:05:44 My God. I can't tell you how envious I am though with that tailgate going out there for the love of God. Who says podcasters live in their mouse basements? No, we walk four miles just to start the podcast. Oh my god. I can't tell you how envious I am though with that tailgate going out there for the love of god. Just knowing the boys are slipping and sliding. What's up? How you doing? How are we? We keeping the joint secure? We're good, we're good. Keep us in control. Our job is finished.

Starting point is 00:05:58 Wow, we got beers now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. Get yourself a nice cold one. Come on. Get yourself a nice cold one, alright? You deserve two. So yeah, I mean, not that guy. That guy was great. That's a great way to do security. Like, is it secure? It was. I don't know. I'm out. The event doesn't start for 22 hours.

Starting point is 00:06:15 So yeah, we're two hours out right now. Honestly, this isn't a good way to sell the podcast, but we don't know who the fuck's coming on besides the president of Pocono. Yes. We got the president of Pocono. Yes. We got the president of Pocono. In full transparency, we already talked to him. Yes. It was a good six, seven minute interview.

Starting point is 00:06:29 He's a good dog. He gives a little context. Part of what we do this shit for is when we don't know a lot about the event, we subtly try to get people to explain things to us. As much as the podcast is finding out what you do for a living, it's also, the podcast should be called, Can You Help Us? Can you help us talk about an interesting job so that we can exploit you on the internet should be called, Can You Help Us? Yeah. Can you help us to talk about an interesting job so that we can exploit you on the internet

Starting point is 00:06:47 for views and clips and stuff. That really is the ethos of the podcast, is us asking strangers, hey, we came up with a concept and it's kind of like hit or miss, can you please help us sit down with us and give us life? Yeah, half the time we'll just invite a comedian on who's performing at Punchline or Helium and then we'll go over to Punchline

Starting point is 00:07:02 and there'll be no foot traffic and they'll just have to sit there for an hour with guys they've never met in their lives. But the car accident. We might have back to back episodes with car accidents happening. Fuck, we will. We'll be in the infield later on.

Starting point is 00:07:12 Yeah, I know. Dear God. That'll be fun. That'll be fun. Do you think you could be a NASCAR driver? Yes. I've seen these guys. I've seen you drive.

Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, I was wondering, I did drive you up. I was actually kind of wondering, like, how do you think I drove? You drive very standard, but that can be perceived as perhaps a little guarded. Yes, I'm a defensive driver. I learned from a woman. Yeah, well, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:37 No, my mother is a defensive driver. She was the only one in the family. God, my dad's such a pussy. He's gonna sound like such a pussy for this. She's the only one in the family that could, my dad's such a pussy. He's gonna sound like such a pussy for this. She's the only one in the family that could drive stick. And my first car was a stick. So she had to teach me in North Penn High School in the parking lot.

Starting point is 00:07:51 So that's why, and then obviously with every mom, you get like within 15 feet of a car, she's already pressing on the brakes in the passenger seat, freaking the fuck out. It's like I'm nowhere near this car. For most of our podcasts, I've driven us places after. Kai, dude, I hate the world. It's unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:08:08 I drive perfectly fine. You do? I drive a little aggressive. I like to get places, dude. But I drive like such a Nancy that when I see you, I learn from a woman. I've seen that a lot. Oh yeah, I'm always on the yo shit bar.

Starting point is 00:08:21 I just like to be in control. It's a control thing. It's nothing against anyone else. Like there are some shitty drivers out there, but like it's I might my uber driver last night Was definitely on something why? He we were we were going to the Phil's game and We're sitting in on Broad Street right before you turn into Pat and Sinead to go to the game I think he's dropping his office Xfinity live Yeah, and his foot is just like, won't stop.

Starting point is 00:08:46 And he's braked right now. So the car's kind of shaking. Yeah. And he keeps touching his nose and stuff. And he keeps going. Oh no. And he's like, and he wouldn't shut up the entire time. And I'm just like, I'm like, big dog,

Starting point is 00:08:59 what you do on your own time is perfectly fine. You got us here. We're about to end the trip, can we stop, you know, moving our feet to the beat of the music on there? To the beat of the jerk? As we're like shaking back and forth? I've never, I've never seen such a coked up guy

Starting point is 00:09:17 in my entire life. Dude, that guy, when he sees, when you pick like the setting in Uber that says like, yeah you can talk to me, like when you're the passenger the passenger you can click he's probably like well Cass Cass called this one so she called uber X that cheap fuck really I do come gotta go come I do come for every time I'll pay the extra four or five dollars for covers it's the pre I don't even I don't even use the preference of cool or hot or whatever you want now I just want to know talking no I want like

Starting point is 00:09:42 make my driver compliment me. Like, on the fact that I got a car. That should be part of the comfort. You have to get in the car and then the Uber driver compliments you on being able to afford a comfort. Just be like, I'm having a bad day. I just need something. Not even that.

Starting point is 00:09:55 I kind of want him to just like, big up me a little bit. I get in and he's like, whoa man, you bought me a comfort? That's a lot of money. You must do well. I need that. True. I get in a car with a lady. Well, my lady, not a lady. Any ladies ladies you would have ride but no yeah the comfort has changed the

Starting point is 00:10:09 game we've been waiting for you with bated breath yes sit on in we're live right now so anything you say can be used against you at a court of public opinion court of car that's not all? How you doing? Turning down a little bit. I think his headphones are a little... Oh yeah, you're on a ten. Yeah, we need you more of a six. Yeah, how you doing man? I'm great man. Holy hell, what's up with the rain? Oh man, we're on top of the plateau here. It's always a little funky, but you know this wasn't even in the forecast. I don't know. That's the thing, we were talking about yeah I thought I was living cleaner you should the only reason you should be wet today is because you're sweating through your

Starting point is 00:10:49 collared shirt yes I know when I woke up this morning I was like oh good it's gonna be overcast all day great that beats 90 degrees 100% but we're early it's only 11 race doesn't start till 2 to 30 so get this in get it past us and uh we'll be all right I hate it for the fans though, right? Sure. Out there. Yeah. But you know, your fans do it. They're doing much slides in the, in the, in the back seat of the car. You think they care about a little bit of rain? I think they embrace it. They were doing some rain dances when we walked in. I think this was made to happen, but it's nice. It's a nice setup. Yeah. It's a, I mean, look,

Starting point is 00:11:24 hey, you know, not that it beats 90 degrees, but you know. Cool it down a little bit. Is the Tricky Triangle a little trickier when it uh, low precipitation on the uh, road? So you guys uh, give me your depth of your NASCAR knowledge. Well I'm a Bobby Labonte guy. Okay. Uh, I just bought this shirt about 20 minutes ago. Okay. Uh, he's a Dale Jr. guy obviously. You got the Sundrop shirt? Got the Sundrop shirt, of course, yes. The depth of knowledge, a little shallow. Do you know what a Sun Drop is?

Starting point is 00:11:45 Sun Drop is a drink, is it not? Yeah, it's like a Southern mountain dude. Like the OG, oh, like a little 7-Up action type thing. Okay. So basically what we're trying to say is we're novices. I've been up the Pocono twice when I grew up. Okay, so unfortunately we do not race in the rain. Race car tires are slick, so they have no treads in them. So we don't race in the rain. Race car tires are slick, so they have no treads in them.

Starting point is 00:12:06 So we don't race in the rain. There's some road courses that do. Formula One will race in the rain. They change a tire. But oval racing, no go. So we don't race in the rain. Unfortunately, good news is we have a really cool bunch of... A super dryer.

Starting point is 00:12:24 We do. We have a jet dryer. You ever seen that thing? No, I haven't seen it. We have air titans. We've got about everything you need to dry this place. It's a big place, right? What's an air titan go for? Oh, I have no idea.

Starting point is 00:12:32 NASCAR owns them. You're the president! I don't know. NASCAR owns them. I like that. I like that. Keep the equipment. That's NASCAR's problem.

Starting point is 00:12:40 No clue of the price. NASCAR takes them from race to race. Oh, shoot. So it's all part of the logistics of the circuit. Where they'll go, so they'll take their pack their air tightens up. They'll go where they're going next week in Atlanta. So they'll go to Atlanta. They were in Mexico City. They said they're going to the circuit. What are you most looking forward to today when we start racing? I love the opening laps. The first three, four, five laps of the race are the coolest to me. It's just like, I don't

Starting point is 00:13:03 know, it's like that goose bump moment. You just get that feeling like, okay, this is cool. These are 40 of the best race car drivers in the world. Now, do you go earplugs or no earplugs? No, I don't go earplugs. Oh my God. Yeah, see, I'm nervous. I've heard it was loud and I'm getting,

Starting point is 00:13:14 I'm an anxious guy with the noise. There's a reason why I don't. Now, if I was to go to Bristol or Martinsville or one of the short tracks, I would definitely go earplugs. So, Bristol's a half mile. Okay. Dover's a mile, Really? Bristol's a half mile. Okay.

Starting point is 00:13:26 Dover's a mile, Martinsville's a half mile, so you don't escape the sound. Got it. So here you can escape the sound. I gotta imagine when you put it in the Coliseum, that was a pretty short track too. That probably you could never escape the sound just radiating off the... No. We did get a pretty... we're from Philly, the Philly area and stuff. Got a pretty interesting headline this weekend from NASCAR

Starting point is 00:13:45 being like they're thinking about putting a race in Philadelphia. Any thoughts on that? Yeah, I don't think it's imminent, if it is at all. I think what Steve O'Donnell, who's the NASCAR president, was saying, and I feel like the quote wasn't, it didn't come across what he said, right? So what he said is there's only a handful of stadiums,

Starting point is 00:14:04 Olympic-sized stadiums anymore, that could hold a race track right so that's what he was really saying so they raced at the LA Coliseum yep and there's just not that many Franklin fields or LA Coliseums out there so I think it was I think it was taken out of context a little bit yeah personally I'd love to see like the Chicago Street Race style because we have I don't know how much time you spend in Philadelphia being up here in the Poconos but we have like the Ben Franklin Parkway and we have the two ovals and then we have the City Hall and you just race those guys around there man. So we did some burnouts at City Hall a

Starting point is 00:14:33 couple years ago with Xfinity. How'd that go? You'll have to look it up. It was called the Xfinity Takeover. Sweet. And so we had a bunch of race car drivers and you know that I mean that City Hall's iconic right? Right. So they were just doing burnouts, smoke flying right in front of City Hall. It was killer. And our tax dollars had to pay for that clean up. There's also teenagers doing that every weekend

Starting point is 00:14:51 out front of City Hall. Yeah, that's not, that's a test of track around there. I was in Center City last week or two weeks ago and like the kids on the wheelies on their bicycles. I was like, dude, like. We gotta get them in some NASCAR. Start recruiting them, yeah, get them NASCAR. The bike lane is like, you know, when you're coming off of Ben Franklin,

Starting point is 00:15:08 it's like right there. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I was like. Yeah, you're speaking to the choir, man. I'm like dude. There's nothing you can do. That's the first sign you're getting older, is you start to see those wheelies

Starting point is 00:15:17 and you're like, settle down, kids. That's true. You should bring the wheelie boys up here and they should be the grand marshal. You should just have them wheelie around the whole track. Opening act, yeah. I was like, I'm not in the business of hitting a kid.

Starting point is 00:15:25 Yeah, I'll take some. Get me out of here. Not anymore, change me. Exactly, exactly. We got two minutes left with them. You got anything on here? If you're a fan who's trying to, you know, you're pinching pennies a little bit coming out here,

Starting point is 00:15:34 what's like a very underrated part to sit in to get a good view? Like what's like somewhere you wouldn't think? So the fans are, the fans, there's a different variety of opinion. Some fans want to be, and so NASCAR is opposite of every other sport. The first row is the least expensive seats. The nosebleeds are the most expensive. So the higher you're up, the more you can seat.

Starting point is 00:15:57 So that's the first thing I tell people is, okay, here's the difference. You're not going court side, right? Court side starts for us at $60. So some people like to be down in the action. You know, they feel the sound, the wind, and then some people like the views. So it's teach his own, right? It's not, I don't know if there's underrated, it's just come to a NASCAR race,

Starting point is 00:16:15 experience it and figure out what you like. I like that, yeah, I'd be that guy too who would think I'm buying like courtside seats, bragging to my girlfriend like, you're not gonna believe it, I got us right in front row. We're on the first row. We're both bald by the halfway through. We can't see turn three. We can't see turn three. But you don't get a heck of an experience. Yeah. Hell yeah. It sounds cool. Are you allowed to give a pick who you got today?

Starting point is 00:16:32 This place favors the veterans so this is the only track on the NASCAR circuit with three turns three different degrees of banking three different radii in each turn and three different league straightaways so you rarely will see a rookie show up and do well here. Denny Hamlin's all-time wins leader at seven. Ryan Blaney won last year. He's a NASCAR champion. So I think you see a Blaney, Chase Elliott, Kyle Larson.

Starting point is 00:16:58 You'll see a veteran. It'll be a veteran. It won't be a rookie. All right. That's a stamp of approval from the president of the Pocono. I like it. You heard it here first. Hey man, thanks so much for coming on. Appreciate it.

Starting point is 00:17:06 Thank you gentlemen. Thank you so much. Pleasure. Absolutely. So I was talking about this with a friend the other day, he recently got rid of cable. He's going through a little bit of a tough time. Your friend just got rid of cable? Well he's got rid of like everything.

Starting point is 00:17:17 Like he's basically using his mother's like streaming services and stuff. And then at one point he was just like, we were talking about a last night of the game And he was just like at one point. Do you just be like? I'm so old that I I should have this like you might not be able to financially afford it But it's also like you should just buy it like me the other day like I put off buying socks Yeah, yeah, yeah for no reason whatsoever. Yeah, not that I couldn't afford them, but I needed them badly Yeah, but it's something that I'm't afford them, but I needed them badly. But it's something that I'm like,

Starting point is 00:17:46 I feel like when we, like our generation, I feel like we all just grew up so paycheck to paycheck on our 20s that we're like, I can afford socks. But now when you can afford socks, you still live like you did when you were like 25 years old. Like I have $100 and I'm going to McGillin's this weekend and I'm going to spend my $100 on that. That's what it is. You forget, and then you're like 25 years old. Like I have $100 and I'm going to McGillin's this weekend and I'm going to spend my $100 on that. That's what it is.

Starting point is 00:18:07 You forget and then you're like, oh wait, I can drop $35 on socks. By the way, yeah, fucking that's the issue though, dude. Because like you're saying, like you could parcel out money for stuff that you like, fun stuff, drinking beer type stuff, pictures, slapping asses, guys' asses, stuff like that. But when you see like $19. 1999 on a pair of white socks,

Starting point is 00:18:25 you're like, fuck you, capitalism. Yeah, 100%. Not today. They got the socks too? I thought we were just doing eggs. Yeah, just do the eggs. Give me a sock and egg bend bundle. Yeah, I bought the Nike dry fits down there.

Starting point is 00:18:34 Fucking rule. Yeah, you can't do that. Once you go to Nike dry fit, you don't go back. Once you go dry, you never- I like my feet soaking wet. Good shit. Nah, dude, as a former a you basketball player? True always Nike dry. Do you remember those days like this?

Starting point is 00:18:48 This is a nice throwback segment the days of like when you saw a kid pull up to the a you tournament And he had the Nike elites yes the Uggs on the dash ones right dash Yeah, the ones in the back everybody had the color of their team and everything you knew like I'm gonna lose by 40 Yep, it was always like a group of like and it was always the best teams Somebody made a great point the best teams in AAU were either all white dudes with one black kid so that team you're like they're gonna run the floor they're gonna shoot a ton of threes. Yeah it's gonna be four out one in. Yep or you're gonna have all black dudes one white kid. Yeah. All those

Starting point is 00:19:18 kids get into the basket they're all athletic as hell and then that kid will literally not miss a shot. Yeah they'll just drive and dish. The whole time. Yep. I was never any of those I was a I was a mishmash and we won maybe four games. I tried it, dude. I tried to rock the Nike elites in the slides. Just didn't look good. I have the body of... I could have.

Starting point is 00:19:36 Salad fingers. Well, no, I would not go that far, dude. You have a very powerful... I have a Gumby body. You have a powerful body. I have a Gumby body. You should have seen your body when the Gov called you, dude. I saw every kind of I saw every muscle fiber in your body you were locked in did I go back on them I go back to that. I feel like he was like Harry Potter casting a spell and I

Starting point is 00:19:54 Casted one back so your Voldemort you're saying you're evil You're trying to be Snape can I be Snape he dies, but yeah, that's fine, but he's good in the end That's good run. I could live with that, but he did he hit me with he hit me with a Not a Vatican Dapper because Harry would never do that. Never. Expelliarmus. Yep. He tried to, he tried to Expelliarmus me. He gave me the Vatican, this golfer tried to kill you.

Starting point is 00:20:12 He tried to kill me, he tried to give Vatican Dabber me, and I gave him an Expelliarmus right back. You could have heard a pin drop, everybody was looking saying, what will Kyle say back? And you know what he said? Four. Is this guy golfing or is he dominating this guy's too good yep yeah you can't beat it dude damn should we get somebody on

Starting point is 00:20:32 let's do it should you do a crossover I think I do a cross over this is like folks we're gonna have a lot of influencers on here you're probably gonna love it but this is like when they did Fairly Oddparents and Jimmy Neutron oh true that crossover sure this will be a crossover though because I don't know how many people know that we have a new podcast called the Keystone Podcast. Don't put your beer near my beer. We're gonna get our beers. By the way, Santiago, Notorious Not a Big Drinkers takes the last beer. I know dude. He tried to think both of them. He tried to think. Get on the mic. What are you first time? I know usually it's more... Dude you tried to take the last beer. No I did not. You drank both of them., here's what happened. I can say verbatim what you said, but let's hear this line. Yeah, let's hear it.

Starting point is 00:21:06 No, what happened is, I'm walking over. I was just taking pictures and videos of Kyle and Matt talking to the gov. Look at him. There he goes. I was like, build us up to break us back down, dude. Look at my fucking boys talking to the gov. That's so sick. Sure, sure.

Starting point is 00:21:19 I'm just telling you, we're coworkers, not boys. He's buttering us up. We're coworkers, dude. We're coworkers, dude. I've had this argument. We are, boys. I've had the same argument with him. We're coworkers. We're even closer than friends. This is a business relationship for love.

Starting point is 00:21:28 I mean, totally understand that. Don't let him do this. He did the same thing to me. Don't let him do this. He lied at this first couple months, this guy adores us. Lied like a rug. Yeah. Anyways, so there I am just taking pictures and videos

Starting point is 00:21:40 of you guys. I'm like, well look, that's gonna be sick. I'll be able to talk about it on the podcast. Be like, hey, what'd you talk to the governor about? Always thinking about content, this guy. He's good, dude. He's content machine. I'm wired in, just like you guys are.

Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah, no shorts. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, wait. There were beers back there. And then I see you guys are over by the beers. I'm like, oh, I want to go chat them up, see what they said to the governor. And all of a sudden, I see you like, hey, where are the beers?

Starting point is 00:22:01 Where are the beers? Where are the beers? Yeah. My feeling, Kyle can't find the beers. I noticed the two cans right there. And go, okay perfect one for me one for Kyle Right now does that benefit me in this situation? Well, you were you were off somewhere else trying to find another beer You have somebody's random at the end of the day. Those are samples. Well, I don't think there were samples

Starting point is 00:22:18 They had two cups in it. I think someone poured someone else's beer that they didn't like I did not two samples in one cup Well, I saw you guys Masters, taking full cans. I was like, I'm getting a double Sam. You're a greedy boy. I double Sam. I mean, Matt's completely somewhere else. So at that point, I was like, well, Matt's screwed. Six feet away.

Starting point is 00:22:33 It's Kyle and me here. Boom. I'm grabbing two beers. I'm going to hand one to Kyle, one to me. And then Kyle goes, whoa, whoa, would you take those beers? One is for me. I was like, dog, I was literally getting one for you. And he's like, sure, sure, sure.

Starting point is 00:22:46 And then, mind you, I'm like, yo, Matt, by the way, do you want to split this beer? I'll pour one into your cup. And he's, no, no, no, you don't need to do that. I didn't say it like that. I said it much nicer. I said, no, don't worry about it. All good over here, love.

Starting point is 00:22:56 What you left out is I snatched that beer. I snatched that beer out of your vicious little claws. I didn't like that shit. Santiago acting like I was in fucking a state over I was literally two feet away. I watched him grab the two beers like Matt couldn't even didn't even know where he went Thank yous in the portage on or something. There's a lot going on dude the guns got security detail. He's got comms people He's got PR people. Did you notice there was a dude just holding his umbrella? Yeah, that's base There was a guy right behind him like running with an umbrella behind him. That's power eight of rain. Well, you know, he's having a guy who used to run around with

Starting point is 00:23:27 Covering him with his umbrella, right? Who's that? There used to be a guy used to I think he was a he was the host of making the band Who is this? What is this reference? You've never seen the guy who used to hold the umbrella? No. Santiago can't cut this one No, but uh, but but yeah having an umbrella guy He had a guy with a cool little thing in his ear and stuff and he was like, to go over, you're going to talk to this guy next, then you're going to talk to this guy next. We were talking about this. How many pictures do you think the governor has taken in his lifetime? He doesn't remember like a single thing.

Starting point is 00:23:57 That's what we talked about that too. I mean, he definitely remembers a face like, oh, I've seen you four times. But he does not remember one conversation. He does remember you guys better because he actually sat down on the pod and stuff. I know I've seen him a couple of times and I feel like every time I've shook his hand or something, he'll be like, oh yeah, that's right.

Starting point is 00:24:14 And then he'll kind of acknowledge that he's seen your face before. But past that, he doesn't know. He told one girl he loved her content. That's a perfect answer. No, he's seen a video before. Be careful because he's like, I have an holy fans and he's like Stop telling me to say I like the content Jesus Christ

Starting point is 00:24:36 I have a Trump only fans like god damn It's like gabs like I'm a subscriber Yeah, but no we were talking about that too, where it was like, he doesn't remember like one conversation. I mean, it's not even his fault. It's just like, there's so many people you meet. Yeah, he's going to meet a thousand people today. He's gonna be conversing with the content creators.

Starting point is 00:24:57 He's gonna be up there with the fundraisers, probably in the big suites and stuff. He's gonna be ringing the checker flag, ringing the checker flag. He's gonna be, what do they do with that? Waving? Waving the checker flag, rockets right glare. Is that actually gonna be what do they do with that waving waving the checker flag? Yeah, yeah, he's doing like that's why is he had every sporting event isn't it like a fucking budget to be passing

Starting point is 00:25:17 See that shit for Thursday What does he got to do in 10 days? I don't know how budgets work. Yeah, no. We don't know how budgets work, dude. That's what we're trying to figure out for like 12 episodes. Yeah, we're 12 episodes in. I don't understand anything. Everything's just in a deficit.

Starting point is 00:25:33 I read all these articles. They're like, yeah, they're having insane amount of meetings. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, he's here. Oh, he's at the USO. And I was like, when is he doing these meetings? He's got umbrella guys. It's got to be Zoom. And this is weekend, dude.

Starting point is 00:25:44 He's hanging out. This is Sunday mass. He's got umbrella guys. It's gotta be Zoom. And this is weekend, this is weekend, dude. He's hanging out. This is Sunday mass. He's got umbrella guys. His umbrella guys, they decide the budget. His umbrella guys, they decide the laws. He can't, I mean, poor Vito, man, is just watching the Senate like a hawk trying to, as he's smoking weed right now, illegally.

Starting point is 00:25:59 Um, illegally. Get him, boys. Not for long. Yeah, he's watching the Senate like a hawk, just be like, boys, can you please, like, veto, if you send veto to the House, he could filibuster the shit out of you. He shut them down.

Starting point is 00:26:11 He's like, dude, I voted on your side. He could back it up. I voted on your side. He could go back and be like, dude, I'm a Senator now, I don't even know what the fuck happened. Yeah, he's like, listen to me, dude, I voted on your side, I'm part of you guys. I'm one of you guys, I'm a good guy. Please, let there be greener pastures.

Starting point is 00:26:22 Yeah, the green is the pastures, and no longer green pastures in New Jersey Did he got he fucking he he took it out in my car? unannounced and just Fucking ripped one and I said, what are you doing? He goes? I didn't think it would smell that bad. Yeah He's calling us old men I think we're putting I think we're putting too much power in the hands of the Green Boys. Yeah, the weed power is getting too strong. We got to go back to like a Winston Churchill where everyone's blacked out,

Starting point is 00:26:48 nonstop making decisions. We're starting to get like weed politicians. Make alcohol great again. Yes. Make beer great again. Yeah. That's why we're here. Please.

Starting point is 00:26:56 I love a gun. Santiago trying to make less. I would like to have one more beer. Can't get one fucking beer out of here. I offered to split it with you. I appreciate that. That was nice. Kyle was like, no, I'm not going to do that.

Starting point is 00:27:04 I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to beer less. I would like to have one more beer. Can't get one fucking beer out of here, crazy. I offered to split it with you. I appreciate that. That was nice. Kyle was like, no, my beer. I was like, have you been out here all weekend? I was here Friday, but that's it. That's crazy to come to Pocono twice.

Starting point is 00:27:16 I got in the pits. I got right up to the cars. Did they put you in? No, obviously they didn't put me in the car. You said on your story that they're going to put you in the car. What, you actually thought they were going to throw me in the car in the race? Yeah, we trusted you, dude. Dude, you were supposed put me in the car You said on your story that they're gonna put you in the car Would you actually thought they were gonna throw me in the car? Hey, they're gonna throw me in this NASCAR

Starting point is 00:27:33 You're the newsman for the Race but I thought they were gonna put you in there like a little joy ride They're gonna put us in a pace car, but they're like you have to be here at 8 a.m. And we're like, gonna race, but I thought they were gonna put you in there and take you for like a little joyride. They were gonna put us in a pace car. But they were like, you have to be here at 8am. And we're like, well yeah, no thanks. But then again, now, who would've thought we'd be here at 7? I would've been here at 7. No, dude, you wish.

Starting point is 00:27:53 Sorry. I would've tailgated here for 24 hours to do that. Well, yeah, we talked about that. Back to 24 hours. Can't be doing 24 hours stuff anymore. If you're doing your 24 hour talk, check out the Keystone podcast. Your brain's gonna turn into soup. Do we get Santi Igo to talk about his job? I don't know. I mean everyone should have a job

Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah, everyone that knows knows us should know him. Yeah, I mean One of the biggest maybe the biggest creator here. There's no way 100% certainly away 100% The thing is with any creator it just depends what your audience is because like There was someone I heard he was from like Baltimore and she was like, well, who's that tall guy? And it's like, well, if you lived anywhere around Philly, you would know who that is. Yeah. Especially if you're under the age of 25.

Starting point is 00:28:35 Well, they did mention at the beginning that it is creators across the country. Which I also think is so random. I don't really get that. But I guess it's like they're trying to get you to visit PA. So it might be better to have people from outside PA to come and enjoy it be like now you should go now that finally made Yeah, why the hell is someone here from just a bunch of PA people be like, that's cool. Come here. It's fine Yeah, yeah, I kind of like that. Thank you. No, that's why I didn't recognize camelback

Starting point is 00:28:57 Do you like when you see the other content people do you guys get any ferocity behind your eyes? Like I'll record you under a bridge or whatever you guys do. You're mature. You probably don't. I don't. I know you do. I don't be like, I'm making better content than you do. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I have my own judgments and my own thoughts.

Starting point is 00:29:12 But at the end of the day, when you actually talk to someone, I feel like we're all on the same team. Especially if it's like Kyle. Take Kyle for example. If Kyle's making good content, that means more people care about Philly, more people care about Pennsylvania, more people care about Philly, more people care about Pennsylvania, more people care about Philly sports,

Starting point is 00:29:27 which means that now, any videos I make about these topics, more people care about that and are willing to listen. So I really like, if someone came up and was doing the exact same shit I was doing, I would just start trying to work with them. Just trying to. I mean, you could not be further from the same person. You could say literally verbatim the exact opposite.

Starting point is 00:29:44 I see a dude do an interview in the fucking parking lot. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to kill him. You got my GoPuff thing. You're giving me years ago. You ever hear about his? So I think we've told this on the pod before, maybe forever, but forever ago. So back when the Eagles went to the 2022 Super Bowl,

Starting point is 00:30:01 a GoPuff reached out to me. You're supposed to look at me when we're doing a podcast. Sorry about that. He wants to be sitting in the middle right now. Yeah, seriously. 2022, when the Eagles went to the Super Bowl, GoPuff reached out to me and they were like, we want you to dress up in a Ben Franklin costume, go on Broad Street during the Super Bowl,

Starting point is 00:30:15 and start handing out candy to people. And I was like, that's not really my brand. Like, I don't really want to do that shit. Like, can I just, can I just? They were gonna pay pretty well. Can you kind of drop what it was? I think it was like, they offered me 600.. So this is we just fucking rule the story three years ago, but they So so I came back and was like that's not my brand

Starting point is 00:30:34 Why don't I just like go out and like just do fucking shit and we'll just carry like go puff around and stuff They go and they never they never got back to me. So I'm out there I mean when they come when they come to the creator because you try to creative direction yeah you try to negotiate they offered me and I was like I will die on myself so happens I'm out there they obviously lose everybody's kind of sad and shit I'm like you know let's get some fucking content who do I see in Ben Franklin gear maybe dress up like shit in the middle of a circle of people yeah did you see this were you making some of that time no yeah definitely was yeah yeah yeah but nobody was out there dressed up as Ben

Starting point is 00:31:18 Franklin dude it was like we got there at the midway through the fourth quarter so they hadn't even lost yet we got there and like hey it feels pretty good feel like I'm gonna pull it out And then I was walking towards Broad Street as that holding car whatever it was called Dude people start storming out of bars And I'm like you ever think about trying go puff and they're like I'll punch you in your throat dude get away from me And I just go around for like an hour. I dude I had to like tap dance I was like I was going to the Elmo and he was like you're kind of my turf and I was like dude

Starting point is 00:31:42 I know there's no turf What the city I got I was like I was going to the Elmo and he was like you're kind of my turf and I was like dude I know there's no turf Awesome though, I'm gonna do a video with him soon. Are you how have you not done a video silly? Oh, I already did but it was with Whyy but now I'm trying to do like an actual like no, he's elusive. Yeah, that was Yeah, what'd you say Yeah, well that was I was like Oh Yeah Your turn should be a guy he's got a drag clean better Yeah, what could work is that like the Elmo thing?

Starting point is 00:32:13 It gets there. That's just like any mascot costume good my constant great The fanatic has never smelled his life. I don't mean to come out and fill his throat. I like Philly I'm I think what he does for the community is very good. It's just like, yeah, it's like all a non-profit. Can we get maybe a filioma that doesn't smell like raw sewage? Yes, we're taking auditions. I feel like that Drusky show. The one thing I will say, this is the last thing I'll tie the bow on this tail. Oh, you're ready to kick him off?

Starting point is 00:32:39 No, no, I just want to finish this story because in retrospect, I remember there was a single moment where I was like, man, my life has gotten totally out of my hands when the girl who was directing it was like fix your bald cap And I was like I'm a fucking grown man And I'm dressed like Ben Franklin and she's screaming me to fix my bald cap, but it was off She was so they were filming for you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so they were trying to do so it wasn't just like hey you do this No, yeah, it was a whole production. They went out with us. It was like $700. Yeah, it was a lot at that time I would have taken it in a second, but I three years ago that would have been a lot I jumped on I was like, yeah, absolutely. I'll take that. Is it three years? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah good God

Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, definitely I mean to do that and just fucking bang a reel out put me and when I saw Matt dressed up Ben Franklin I was oh, there's even more to it. Sorry to keep of Ben Fahler, I was so mad. There's even more to it, sorry to keep, I keep, no, no, no, I told you, this is one of my perspectives. This is one of my perspectives. This is our friendship perfectly encapsulated.

Starting point is 00:33:29 Yes, yes. Me just mad at you from a distance. Yep. Just staring at you. Yelling at me with the camera. Yeah, yelling at you. Smile, smile. I was in it, but, so then we're waiting

Starting point is 00:33:39 for an Uber to get home, like, it kind of died down, we walked away, we walked like 10 blocks to try to get an Uber, because you couldn't get anywhere close to Broad Street and It's me the girl and he's too like dorky camera dudes the prop no no offense and We're standing there. I'm still Ben Franklin She's a normal looking girl, and they're too like kind of dumpy looking dudes some dude drives by and like a hellcat puts the windows

Starting point is 00:34:00 Down he's like fuck you you fat pussies, and then just drives away. I I was like oh my god where's the uber and she's like it just canceled again oh yeah after a super bowl trying to get an uber oh dude is impossible this past Super Bowl mm-hmm I was with my cousin he was filming for me was on like a broken ankle but he was so determined to film for me yeah that he was like no I don't care I was like are you sure you want to go out and he's like no cuz he gets too high and won't come out. No, he was flying. He was flying from Florida for this whole thing.

Starting point is 00:34:27 So he was like, no, I don't care. My ankle's fine. It was not fine. He was hobbling on it. It's 2 AM. Super Bowl's over. We filmed our content. And I was like, dog, this Uber just canceled.

Starting point is 00:34:39 There's nothing. It stands still traffic. I was like, dude, it's an hour walk home. I was like, oh, you can lean on my shoulder whatever we're ten minutes into the walk we're crossing like fine Street some trutches goes like shorts didn't even say no just said shorts and I was like yes and then he was like you know you need a ride and then before I could even like think about what he said my cousin just goes yeah and we like He's opening the door. He's like, come on, dude.

Starting point is 00:35:05 And we hopped in this dude's truck, didn't even ask any other questions. He's like, yo, where do you live? You want a beer? Yeah, I just gave him an address a couple blocks away from my house. I like that. Before he said, yo, where do you live, I was like, ah, right here. So you get in the house that people's parked at when we went to film the show. He just took me to Temple's campus, but this guy saved my life.

Starting point is 00:35:24 That's huge. Actually, really saved my cousin's life, but this guy saved my life. That's huge. Actually, really saved my cousin's life, because I was ready to do the walk. I was like, whatever. It's going to be a good story. At that point, yeah. But you have a guy on the IR walking with you. I would get in the ride.

Starting point is 00:35:32 It's huge, dude. Shout out to the cloud, man. Thank god. What we got? Someone dying out there? So it kind of sucks that you guys were trying to do the men at work thing, and this is all supposed to be packed with people,

Starting point is 00:35:43 but then they shut it down. Yeah. So yeah, Santiago, we agree, dude. That's kind of been the issue of the day But you guys are also funny like thank you I think out of the three of us. I'm definitely like the least funny I'm just saying like this is your comfort. I like this. Yeah true true I'm just saying like I'm very thankful you guys This is your Uber comfort. I like this. Yeah, true, true. I'm just saying, like, I'm very thankful you guys are on my podcast.

Starting point is 00:36:08 Because I was like, I could not be this funny for 30 minutes. This is great, dude. He's too nice. I'm back. The problem is, you're just too mean. Yes. This is your problem. I'm not mean.

Starting point is 00:36:17 I just have a hard outer shell. Yeah, that's all right. I'm like a Cadbury egg. I'm like a jawbreaker. You are not much like a jawbreaker. because they're all hard all around. No We'll think of a car a candy equivalent. I'm like a geode a Geo, dude, no like a geod like got the rock and then in the middle you have like a cooler rock Okay. Yeah, I could live somewhere in the surface level here

Starting point is 00:36:41 Yeah, okay, it's a guy that loves all I say nice things about you guys when we're off the podcast. I can live with that. Just can't. It's hard to break down barriers. We're just trying to get better every single day. I get it. 1% better, like Nick Sirianni says, every single day. Any other parting thoughts you want to say?

Starting point is 00:36:56 Not really. While I was recording this pod, it occurred to me that I think the majority of our conversations happen when a camera is on yeah Yes, I don't think I've ever had a 30 minute conversation with one of you guys. I think that might be true like Outside of like car drives maybe car drives. Yeah, we have like car drives So maybe something like that, but then again, it's the funniest thing all we do is talk about content. It's the most boring fucking. Yeah Algorithm and content, but I can talk about that shit all day. Like it's just like cuz it's it's the funniest thing in the world. All we do is talk about content. It's the most boring fucking, we talk about algorithms and content.

Starting point is 00:37:26 But I can talk about that shit all day. It's just like, cause it's like your job. It's like, ah, like. That's how we started this podcast. And it's like, there's just very few, there's very few other people you could talk to where they actually know what they're talking about. Cause it's like, I can talk to my friends about it.

Starting point is 00:37:40 You know, they can be like, oh, I like this video. I like this, whatever. I do love the feedback I get from friends. True. But unless you're actually talking to somebody else who regularly uploads videos, they're going to have a different perspective as well. And there's only so many people like that, and especially Kyle is doing all this Philly man on the street

Starting point is 00:37:55 stuff. It's like, there's very few also Philly, also similar niche. Yeah. We're also like, there's hella creators where it's like, you guys just make a couple Instagram posts every once in a while Like it's different when you're actually like in the muck. I'll job Regularly putting shit. Yeah, it certainly is higher stakes the amount of events. I've been to where then Kyle's also there I'm like, hey, yeah, it is something with the

Starting point is 00:38:18 Sky, you know how we met My Instagram my phone numbers on Instagram. He just called me out of the blue. Like, who's your phone number on Instagram? I don't know. Yeah, he didn't even know that. I was like, oh, your phone number's on your Instagram page. He's like, is it? And I was like, yeah, sorry.

Starting point is 00:38:33 I was like, I'm really sorry, but it was just up there. I called, sorry. And you know what? I actually loved it. I was like, wow, this kid's awesome. Yeah, he's got the niche. I just shadowed his man on the street the one time. I just walked around. That's what he did.

Starting point is 00:38:45 He asked if I could follow you around. I was like, sure. Did an internship? You did an internship with Kyle? Bothering people at tailgate? I was like, brother, trust me, it ain't exciting. It's not exciting. I love that idea.

Starting point is 00:38:55 It was a great time. A lot of things that end up on the cutting room floor. You'll see me talk over myself 17 different times and be like, whoop, that was a terrible take. We'll cut that one. But thinking about that is like, Santiago shadowing you doing man on the street and like having a clipboard with like a pen and a paper and walking

Starting point is 00:39:09 around. And he's like, so what point do you start calling these guys idiots? Usually when they talk too much, I'll start calling an idiot. I was like 19 years old. Yeah. Grab your shorts to get your attention. Mr. Pagan. Almost a decade older than you. What a life dude. My God. Yeah. But it was good.

Starting point is 00:39:23 Honestly, it was like probably one of the first times I think I'd ever met up with any creator. What did we do? It was Ben Simmons first time back at Wells Fargo Center and he was just sitting at the bench and you were like basically sitting like either court side or like one row behind court side. I got in a fight with Kyrie that day. What happened?

Starting point is 00:39:39 Me and Kyrie. You got a fight with Kyrie Irving? Kyrie Irving. What happened? I think it was the same year that he had that whole like vaccination thing. So he would have just been back. Yeah, he was on the Nets. He was on the Nets, but obviously Ben didn't play.

Starting point is 00:39:50 He was just on the bench. And I just got the crossing broad and they were like, we're dropping like $10,000 on seats just for content. I was like, this is insane. I love this. I came from like a guy who was on like penny Obamacare insurance and like living paycheck

Starting point is 00:40:04 to paycheck on unemployment to sitting two rows away on like Ben Obamacare insurance and like living paycheck to paycheck on unemployment to sitting two rows away on like Ben Simmons is like getting back. And so like I'm trying, I'm kind of giving it to him a little bit. Like Ben, he did, he pulled that fucking crazy thing where he didn't come out until the national anthem. Like he came out for a little bit, worked out. I remember this. And then he went back in the locker room and the national anthem's going on.

Starting point is 00:40:25 He comes out midway through the national anthem so he doesn't hear the boos. And then people start to realize it and then they start just going in on him. So if like- You got a choice to make at that point. So like- Do I boo the national anthem so I can get Ben

Starting point is 00:40:35 or do I just- That's a tough position to be in. Yeah, exactly. So the entire time, I'm sitting next to Joe Harris and Blake Griffin. Like I got Blake Griffin to sign like a piece of double mint gum. It's like a wrapper.

Starting point is 00:40:50 It's the dumbest thing. Did you save it? No. But it was a good video. I would've liked that. So anyway, so like Ben's like six from me. Now pregame I'm like, you suck Ben, you suck. But I didn't curse

Starting point is 00:41:02 because I knew they were going to kick me out of my curse. They tried to throw me out before the game. And I was like, I, I. And I was like, the actual Wells Fargo people? Yeah, I, I. No, but you were telling me they were unbelievably strict with it. Unbelievably strict.

Starting point is 00:41:12 Really? Anybody with a sign, anything. I think I was like, God. I think I was saying like, it's a fraud, fraud. Like, you're a fraud, like blah blah blah. Oh, or why the, remember he filed the grievance? Yes.

Starting point is 00:41:22 Like why the grievance? Yeah, when he sat out. And so the head of security for the Nets went to the Wells Fargo people, like, get this guy out. I was like, I'm not leaving. I just started this company. I just started with this company. And they paid $10,000 for these seats.

Starting point is 00:41:34 I'm not leaving. I'm earning my house. I was also blown away by these. I was like, how did you get these things? He's like, the company just paid for them. How long has he been working? He was like, three months. I was like, Jesus, Lord.

Starting point is 00:41:43 Wells, who do you work for? It was nuts. It was like, that would never happen, is it? Three months. It was nuts. It was like that would never happen. Sharehold of value. Promotion, nice. Company man. So basically they have somebody from me to Santiago just detailed on me the entire time.

Starting point is 00:42:00 So this is a convoluted story, but getting back to it. So it's winding down. Remember the Nets blew us out by like 20 that game? It was terrible. God, yeah, that was like the worst. Ah, sorry, right? So they're sitting there and I'm like, fuck it. I got a cameraman with me right now.

Starting point is 00:42:15 He'll just get someone like, Ben, why the grievance? Ben, why the grievance? Nothing crazy and everything. Kyrie's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I want to know why he filed a grievance. Because at the time that grievance was bullshit. He was trying to ask for an actual like $20 million because Ben said Ben Simmons sat out of the entire season yeah and then he was like suing or like filing agreements with the Sixers yeah and

Starting point is 00:42:33 asking for 20 minutes like dude you can sit out yeah what do you think was ridiculous I think he got most of it got it yeah he got it back yeah it was like it was like a quote undisclosed amount like 20 yeah yeah it's like the rumors they were just like whatever. Jesus, what a fucking life. So then Kyrie chirps back? So Kyrie chirps back, and I'm like, what are you talking about, Kyrie?

Starting point is 00:42:50 I just want to know why he's filing the grievance. He's like, man, what are you talking about, man? Just, you want to have a conversation, just conversate. I was like, well, I'm technically asking him a question. I have to yell. I'm really trying to get him to say something. My job depends on it. He's not conversating.

Starting point is 00:43:01 I look like a fucking loser on the video, because to my right I had some dude that were in security at Wells Fargo Center And this is like two minutes left at looking back on I should have let just happen He's like chicken wing in me a little bit Yeah, it's like if you say anything I'll fucking kick you out I'll fucking kick you out and you could see me in the video. We have on video I'm like looking up at him be like yeah, whatever and I'm still going back and forth a guy

Starting point is 00:43:21 They're taller than you know, I was sitting down Whatever and I'm still going back. I was a guy there taller than you know I was sitting down If I if I got out of the chair, I would be kicked out they said I had to sit down the entire time Wow Yeah, dude. They were nuts that that's crazy in Philadelphia. I'm surprised about that slide, but oh you said it was net security Security was That security guy behind the bench. Dude, there was this big ass, did you ever play GoldenEye on Nintendo 64 Odd Job? Who's the Asian guy with the bald head? He was like a six foot seven odd job.

Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so funny. I kind of remember seeing this video before I knew you. It went nuts. Yeah. Wow, I didn't realize that was you, dude. Yeah, Bleacher Report picked it up. And it was all like Kyrie Irving shuts down Sixers fan.

Starting point is 00:44:03 And I'm like, shut the fuck up. That sucks. Wow the fucking, I have all of NBA Twitter and my DMs and mentions and shit. That is the great, I had no clue what a fun thing to put together. I completely haven't gone over that story before. Yeah, honestly that probably like all the crossing broad people they'll probably love that. That's what I'm saying. Like dude Kyle's the fucking man. Yeah, keep this guy in the score. And everything that we now know about Ben Simmons and everything like I was right right, he was wrong. 100%. Anyone would agree with you. the Wow I knew that was gonna happen. What was the trade proposal? I was actually just saying that before we started filming. I knew that was gonna happen. For Jalen Green? Dylan Gross. Wow Jalen Green. Oh I'm not getting service. No I'm not either. How do you get in service? Dude every time I was at the Bear- Because he connects it to the fucking pen. They do have Wi-Fi here. The pen.

Starting point is 00:45:25 What's going on? His pen's got- His pen's got Wi-Fi. He's rigging it up and pointing it to the sky. He's got the Palantir pen, dude. That thing's been watching for years. Kevin Durant to the Rockets. Dude, every time I'm somewhere, Kevin Durant signs somewhere or gets traded.

Starting point is 00:45:36 I was at the Barefoot Country Music Festival when he went to the Warriors. Really? Yeah. And now he's on the Rockets. Which, fine by me. I don't- What a- That's a good connector where you're talking about one insecure guy who played for the Nets and now another insecure guy who played for the Rockets. Which, fine by me, I don't know. What a, that's a good connector, where you're talking about one insecure guy who played for the Nets, and now another insecure guy

Starting point is 00:45:48 who played for the Nets gets traded. That's true, that's crazy. All right, anything you wanna promote? I mean, biggest thing is, if you think Matt and Kyle are funny, now imagine if, now imagine if you added me! Now imagine if someone would just. No thanks. Yeah, but, so this is a great podcast.

Starting point is 00:46:06 Love these guys. But also we have another podcast called the Keystone Podcast. Well, basically it's like all of Philly and Pennsylvania news every week. And we try to make it fun. Because news is usually boring. Like, three people were shot today. It's not really much more fun past that.

Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah, we're like, three people were shot today. We do fun stuff. No, we actually don't even talk about the people that were shot. No. No, we can't. If you want to know, here's the thing. If you want to know who got shot in Philly, turn on 6ABC.

Starting point is 00:46:31 And they're going to tell you all 17 people that died. You know, right? There's a billion news sources all over social, all over whatever. They could tell you everyone that got died. We talk about still the news, but also just interesting stuff. Yeah. Try to crack jokes, whatever. And I've loved doing it.

Starting point is 00:46:48 It's truly a fun time. Definitely. Definitely. It does rule. Definitely pick great co-hosts for it. We got a great host. We all work well together. Me too.

Starting point is 00:46:57 And shout out to the Pod rules. Go look at the Pod rules. Shout out, Danny. So yeah. Shout out, Danny. The Keystone podcast on Spotify, Apple, Podcasts, YouTube. So if you want to be a little bit informed, want to have a couple laughs. Hey, we'll link it Apple podcast. Yes, sir. YouTube, Teeb. So if you wanna be a little bit informed,

Starting point is 00:47:06 wanna have a couple laughs. Hey, we'll link it down below. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So. Check us out. Yeah, but.

Starting point is 00:47:13 Cool. Thanks for coming on. Thanks, brother man. You're the fucking man. Oh, also, if anybody's listening to this and they didn't go to the Men at Work live show. You missed out. You better go to the next one.

Starting point is 00:47:20 The next one. That was incredible. I had a blast. Incredible? It's cool, dude. Damn, dude. This is the longest we've ever talked. Helium Comedy Club, if you're listening. I had a blast. Incredible? Damn dude. This is the longest we've ever talked. Helium Comedy Club, if you're listening.

Starting point is 00:47:27 This might be our longest conversation ever period. See you, bro. Shout out to Keystone Podcast. Shout out to Keystone Podcast. Go watch us. Go watch us. See more of us. And Santiago.

Starting point is 00:47:36 Exactly. Keep watching more of us. Yeah. You would never get into it with a player. It depends. Like who would really get your blood Who would really get your blood boiling? Draymond Green. Draymond Green is just, because you know what it is,

Starting point is 00:47:51 as soon as they break out the poor thing, like I think that's their go-to chart back, is like, you're here to see me, you pay one to see me. It's like, there's not a lot more you could say. But I don't pay to see Draymond Green. Right, but then they just go into like how poor you are and you feel like you're doing well for yourself. You're like, I make a good living, whatever.

Starting point is 00:48:09 And then some like six foot seven mega athlete who makes $45 million a year is like, shut up, you're poor. It's really tough. It's true. So there's only, there's unfortunately only one avenue to go down and I will not go down that avenue. And then all. Well, what if you just say like, yeah, I am poor.

Starting point is 00:48:25 Just remember when you were me. Yeah. Like go back on him a little bit. Remember where you... Oh, bring him back. Cause from what I've heard, every single athlete is depressed as fuck. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:35 Like all the money in the world, they have to be. All just fucking miserable. They have to be. They got guys in their DMs because they didn't hit their 17 team par. 17 team par. Yeah, I guess that is.

Starting point is 00:48:44 They got guys in their DMs because they lost a game on a Tuesday in January. Can you imagine? There's just constantly people in their DMs. I get one DM and I'm like, no I'm not. I know I have a blockhead, but no I don't. It's normal, a lot of people have blockheads. I know I can't wear hats or sunglasses.

Starting point is 00:48:59 True, if we had people betting on our podcast, and if we had a bad episode, someone's like, I took the over and you guys saying shit 14 times. Yeah, imagine if we gave out picks. Like, Pat McAfee was just talking about that. He's so happy to be away from the pick game, because people just jump in his DMs. It's like, it's a former kicker of the NFL,

Starting point is 00:49:16 and you're hanging on every word about how he likes Nick Chubb over 23 and a half, or it's rushing. Like, come on. It's gotta be guys with no outlet, what a life to live. And by the way, I think now that we brought this up, this might be something to look at. If we can get a totally unbiased third party

Starting point is 00:49:32 to do over unders for our podcast, we got a gambling guy sitting over here that could give us some over unders for our pot. He could set the line before every episode. How many times are you gonna call something gay? How many times are they gonna? How many times are you gonna call something gay how many times are you gonna think about cutting a joke or how many times are we gonna think about how many times are you gonna have exhales at the end of a conversation where we're all trying to think of the next thing to say

Starting point is 00:49:56 someone's just watching it like i think that was an exhale i think that was that was they didn't call that an exhale that's horseshit but that's the thing though too when like like someone's got like over and rebounds and stuff And the NBA doesn't doesn't acknowledge that something's a rebound. I would I would lose my mind too true I get real like technical the way they give you assists when you don't deserve I'd be that guy I'd be giving us a lot of leeway. Yeah, it's all up to like a Human at the end of the day, which is a crazy part about it We could compete we could like every good jokes a score every time I bring it back after a bad joke

Starting point is 00:50:24 It's a rebound every time I pass you all after a bad joke, it's a rebound. Every time I pass you off for a nice move. There you go. We might be. We might get that regulated. This is the worst idea of all time. People are just gonna like, shut up. Yeah, so let me get to the next guest.

Starting point is 00:50:35 Oh, that's one, there we go. Let's get to the next guest. Aaron, you gonna come on? Yeah. A-A Ron. What's up dude? Are those perfect game shorts? Eric Emmanuel. Oh. Big baller. What's up, dude? Are those perfect game shorts? Eric Emmanuel.

Starting point is 00:50:46 Oh, big baller. What are those? They're like a fancy, I think they're like a high end brand. Sweet. They were big a while ago. I tried to get a pair and then you see that it's $130. Damn. You got some fucking baller ass shorts on?

Starting point is 00:50:58 What do you do for a living? I make apps, is the short answer. OK. So like mozzarella sticks and? OK. Hello, folks. That's a point if you bet the over on Kyle scoring a more of a bang bang shrimp guy. Yeah Hey shrimp guy. Yeah endless apps you strike me as a big you do make it this ass which is kind of sick Yeah, no, I'm I'm an annoying tech guy

Starting point is 00:51:16 Yeah, dude, you guys are taking over the world and I'm not happy about it. It's not taking over our world Well, yeah, we like to pretend that we are no you guys Yeah, it's not taking over our world. We like to pretend that we are no you guys You're all just hiding out and fucking Hawaii volcano Shit seeing the nine tech guys in the front row at the inauguration. I was like, I think they're winning Yeah, you're trying to get the Mars like tomorrow so that you can just leave this fucking dust bowl Yeah, but then you know your toilet leaks or your you're rich enough to call somebody and then even then what are you gonna do? Yeah, but you make the app that we call the guy on. We put in the issue that we're having with the toilet.

Starting point is 00:51:48 You probably invented TaskRabbit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, or you're gonna just reprogram the fricking toilet and it's just gonna make it, it's just gonna literally make it just everything to the day. Yeah, true. Exactly, exactly.

Starting point is 00:51:59 I mean, damn, the plumbers are probably, AI probably gonna come for the plumbers too. No, they can't. You don't think so? What can AI not come for? Anything that's real, basically. Anything in the real world. My Dunkin' Donuts, my poor Dunkin',

Starting point is 00:52:12 we went to Dunkin' Donuts before this. Yeah, I screwed your order, AI screwed your order. I screwed up my order. We ordered on the little kiosk thing they have. That's an example of what I call bad AI. Okay. Like, my real. But technically, it wasn't AI's fault.

Starting point is 00:52:25 No. It was the worker who had to read who might not have to be able to read because all they do is chat. What do they need AI for reading? Let me clarify what I mean by bad AI. Yeah. I don't mean that it was bad for you

Starting point is 00:52:36 or the experience didn't work. What I mean is that the point of that system is not to help you. The point of that system is to make Dunkin' Donuts more money. Yeah, that's what I don't like about it. So like, my real job, I'm a venture capitalist. I invest in companies.

Starting point is 00:52:50 I run a digital agency. Tech companies or? Yeah, exactly. Mostly tech. We've done some consumer stuff, some brands, like Blue Bottle Coffee was a company we invested in a while ago. Nessie bought them.

Starting point is 00:53:01 Congratulations. Yeah. More Erica Manual shorts. That's congratulations. Yeah. More Erica manual shorts. No bad bad AI is when a company sees this new technology and says okay how can I use this to just screw my customer more? How can I use this to improve a process on my side of the equation as opposed to the customer side? And it's really funny when you see big, big companies, especially like Amazon, Google, whatever, deploy AI on different sides of the business, you realize, oh, like Amazon could add AI

Starting point is 00:53:32 to the search feature that helps me find stuff, right? And that would be a better experience for me, but it would make them less money. Instead, what they're doing is they're adding the AI on like the customer service side to kind of automate or even slow down the process I go through when something goes wrong. So from an investment standpoint, I'm not interested in those bad AI things. That's not interesting to me. I want to see good AI that is actually going to help do

Starting point is 00:53:57 things in the world better for everybody and not just squeeze a couple extra pennies out of a fast food. Is that what it really is? It's It's just, it's like a rounding error of like money? Or are they making like big, big bucks on this? I mean, that's, remains to be seen because the fundamental technology actually still doesn't make money. Yeah. Like, you know, you've got Microsoft building

Starting point is 00:54:18 these big data centers that OpenAI runs on. All of that's being funded by basically free money from the government Yeah, the Inflation Reduction Act not to get political here, but just talking about where the money comes from Great law actually stupid name Stupid name. Yeah, you know, I've seen eggs Yeah, you know there were tens of billions of dollars in that law to give Companies like Microsoft basically guaranteed loans to go and

Starting point is 00:54:45 build new data centers to power AI and stuff, right? And so without that, you know, they would be losing even more money on operating all these systems. So it remains to be seen if, you know, if you're putting all of this energy into a server to like take your order at Dunkin is actually saving more money on the labor side than it is on the energy side. We are at a race and NASCAR is known for just putting ads head to toe on guys' jumpsuits, head to toe on cars and stuff. My Dunkin' kiosk brought to you by, I don't know,

Starting point is 00:55:20 Folgers mixed with Palantir. That's probably how, like hey, how do we turn a profit with AI? It's like we just advertise the fuck out of like our key. That's what it seems like it is That's always like the go-to move. Yeah, indeed I wonder I mean you see I imagine you work with these guys to some extent like on the back end when you're describing this Bad AI and that they're really just focused on how can we make the business a little bit more money even at the expense of? The customer experience the guys who are doing that, when you meet them, you have this caricature of them in your head

Starting point is 00:55:48 where there's these scumbags, or they don't care, and that might be unfair. They're doing their job, and they just, they get to provide for their families. Do you see these guys, and are they fucking scumbags? Is really what I'm asking. They have to be the worst hang of all time. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:59 I mean, if I go back through all the pitches I've ever heard, the worst ones actually weren't AI involved. They were more, you know, we're gonna sell vitamin C tablets at a 10,000% markup to board house-wise because we've got a cute character that they like to put on the bottom. They watch the view. And we can make a good morning in America,

Starting point is 00:56:19 we get them into the view. The moms wake up with a little bit of bloat that morning, they're like, God, I wish I had something to flush me out, and then you put it up. The most, I don't see a lot of evil in the AI pitches I see. I see just a lot of naive people who don't really understand what they're actually pitching.

Starting point is 00:56:34 Because let's say like the last year, I've heard six or seven people come to say, oh, I'm building an AI tool, and it's gonna help your doctor, give you better treatment. And everyone's had the experience to go to the doctor, and they don't really look at you, an AI tool that's going to help your doctor give you better treatment. Everyone's had the experience to go to the doctor and they don't really look at you. They're like typing on a computer the whole time.

Starting point is 00:56:52 Lots of people trying to make a tool that's going to do all that for the doctor automatically and now the doctor's going to be able to spend more time with you. What that will probably end up meaning is if that's actually successful, well, the doctor will go from being expected to see three patients an hour to four or five. All comes down to those. The other part that most people don't realize is those types of developments, those types of improvements are zero sum, right? Because let's say that doctor doesn't use this tool, he has a better patient experience,

Starting point is 00:57:26 he can now write that letter to your insurance company all the faster. Right. Well, the insurance company is building an AI on the other side to reject those letters better and more efficiently. Oh my God. That's why we're losing CEOs.

Starting point is 00:57:38 It's dueling wizards. We're talking about Harry Potter, really. There's two. Yeah, yeah. Vatakadav, right? Your co-player's rejected. Hey, Luigi Mangione, Vata Kadavra, right? We did, he did.

Starting point is 00:57:48 So like, I'm always skeptical when an AI person or really anyone's coming to me and saying like, oh, this tool's gonna be great because it's gonna increase efficiency for XYZ. Well, your increased efficiency is, you know, the person you're buying from's decreased efficiency. Right, right, right. You know, like, you cannot get more efficient at buying something without the person selling're buying from is decreased efficiency. Right, right, right. Like, you cannot get more efficient at buying something

Starting point is 00:58:06 without the person selling it to you becoming less efficient. So like, those types of pitches where are just kind of like picking up pennies and decide someone's IT budget, not very interesting to me. Sure. The other thing I keep telling people about AI is I don't think this is going to be as disruptive as you think, because I disagree wholeheartedly.

Starting point is 00:58:24 Well, let me put it this way, who cares what AI is gonna do for your doctor? Do you know what email could do for your doctor? Your doctor's not allowed to use email. Oh yeah, my doctor the other day, he sent me like a over a secure internet IP address. There's some, it's annoying, there's a really, there's a very big and powerful law called HIPAA, it was signed in the 90s, H-I-P-P-A, and to understand what it does, you can actually just invert the meanings of all the letters. The official name of the law is the Health Information Portability and Privacy Act.

Starting point is 00:59:02 Well the effect of HIPAA is that your health information is everywhere, so it's not private. Anyone who ever sees you keeps a copy of it forever, and it makes it basically impossible to access your data or move it around. So it doesn't keep your data private, and it doesn't make your data portable. And HIPAA, among other things, basically makes it unlawful for your doctor to send an email, right?

Starting point is 00:59:22 So think about the process of, go to the doctor, and the doctor says, oh, you need to go to a shoulder email, right? So think about the process of go to the doctor and the doctor says, oh, you need to go to a shoulder specialist or you need to go to a knee surgeon or whatever. Well, what's actually gonna happen is your doctor's gonna type into a computer, he needs to go to the knee doctor, and then that system will like print out a piece of paper which then gets faxed to the other doctor, right?

Starting point is 00:59:42 And then a human being takes that fax, puts it on a table, types it into their computer, right? And so that adds, I don't know, five, 10 days. They roll it up, they give it to a trusted Falcon, he flies across, lands on the other doctor's floor. So, you know, when I hear people like Sam Altman, you know, talking about, oh, we're gonna cure cancer, we're gonna do all these amazing things,

Starting point is 01:00:01 I'm like, bro, how about you let my doctor send an email? Yeah, start, yeah, that's a good point. How about you use a calendar app so I don't have to call you to make an appointment? How about I just book on your calendar the way I do anyone else I do business with? So there's a lot of hype, a lot of people making grand games, but we're still very much

Starting point is 01:00:23 in the free money phase of this. And I don't know, I'm kind of starting to see a little less interest than we were even six, 12 months ago. Oh dude, I disagree. I mean, have you been on, are you on TikTok? Are you on Instagram? Instagram, yeah. Have you seen all the AI, like reels and stuff, all the AI and TikToks and stuff? Oh sure, yeah, yeah. Like I'm so scared. Like it literally ruined my weekend. That like AI is starting to become better and better when it comes to content. Like funnier, quicker, on your feet. Like obviously there's still a human behind those writing prompts and stuff.

Starting point is 01:00:58 So I guess that's the human nature to it of it. Like as a guy who does content, obviously, Matt's a comedian, like I'm petrified that all this thing I spent all my time on over the last five, six, seven years, that in three years, I'm going to be like, shit, I don't got a job anymore. Because now I got AIBOT4269 is walking around the Philly's tailgate just interviewing people and getting better clips and I could even Hope to get you gotta get the comments actually that actually reminds me of a pitch. I heard a couple weeks ago a company who's

Starting point is 01:01:32 Creating technology to help you tell the difference between what's real and fake. Yeah, that's gonna be a big one That's a trillion dollar idea both in terms of like what's actually a simulation? What's AI generated and then what's like the original version of something that hasn't been altered in a little way okay deep fake but like a half deep fake yeah the funny thing is like deep fakes were like the things that like we were all scared about for like three years yes not even and now AI here it's like deep fake what are you a loser we just made up an entire content within a screen yeah somebody put Obama's face over like you know a check and it was like holy shit the future's face over a check and it was like, holy shit, the future's crazy.

Starting point is 01:02:06 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now it's like, I can just write a prompt being like, have Obama just fucking slice someone's neck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop! You don't need deepfakes when the audience is so polarized that you can show the same video of a politician talking to a left-leaning person, a right-leaning person,

Starting point is 01:02:22 and then they will both say that it means something else completely different. You know, it could be like the sky is blue and then the conservative will say, oh, he hates the nighttime. And the Democrat will say, oh, yeah. That's interesting to think about. You don't need deepfakes. People just want to see what they want to see.

Starting point is 01:02:40 And that's the advantage we have as peoples. We're so hateful towards each other. It's hard to mimic. That's kind of an interesting thing. That's the one thing AI can't do, is to talk shit and chirp as bad as we do. That's true. AI would get flamed in the group chat.

Starting point is 01:02:51 I would let AI opt out. That's what you gotta do. You gotta so contempt amongst other AIs, make them dislike each other. But however, you made an interesting point about there's gonna become AI that's there to tell you whether or not you're looking at something that's been doctored in a way.

Starting point is 01:03:03 That, to me, could be like the seed that eventually leads us, like you know the simulation theory? Sure. Could upend, at one point we get very advanced with this thing that tells you if it's fake or not, it's like dude, you're not even fucking free. It's like I knew it dude, I knew it. That's true.

Starting point is 01:03:16 Right? There are people falling in love with AI right now. Falling in love with chat GPT, proposing to it and everything. Shit, look at Dodger's. So I've heard, big in Japan probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah, it's crazy. What do you, let's talk about something fun. What do you, you're a venture capitalist, you've hit on some deals, what do you spend your money on? What do I spend my money on? Other than expensive basketball shorts. Yeah, true, we went from expensive, no shorts to expensive shorts.

Starting point is 01:03:38 That's a crazy type of rich. Basketball shorts that are expensive. I meant no shorts, the greater we have. No, but I know, but basketball shorts that are expensive are insane. Yeah, that know but I know what shorts that are expensive are insane yeah yeah that's beast that's so beast that's a high level they're not even the most expensive what is this shirt Louie well this is actually vintage Dale Earnhardt NASCAR 1999 it's at the chase is that let me just put this way this shirt cost more than the shorts nice what do been at a vintage shop in Pasadena. I can tell you that one. That's kind of nice. What do you spend your money on then?

Starting point is 01:04:06 Because that's vintage tees. I drive a big stupid truck. Cybertruck? Yeah. Nice. How do you like it? Big stupid truck. Oh gosh, that changes week over week. Yeah, I bet.

Starting point is 01:04:16 Based on the climate. Sometimes, because I'm sorry to cut you off, but when I'm in a Tesla, like I was in a Tesla last night, it was good experience for an Uber. And then I get in a Tesla, like I was in a Tesla last night, it was good experience for an Uber. And then I get in a Tesla sometimes and I'm like, this sucks, I hate this. Yeah, sometimes when you shut the door

Starting point is 01:04:31 and it sounds like plastic hitting plastic, you're like, hmm. The older ones were a little chintzy. This is my fourth, so I'm like squarely in the fourth Tesla. Fourth Tesla. Wow, damn. So I'm squarely in the cult. I mean, they're great cars.

Starting point is 01:04:44 They do what you gotta do. cult. That's your question. But I mean, they're great cars. They do what you got to do. The short answer to your question is it's the coolest thing that I've ever owned by far. Politics notwithstanding, you love it, you hate it, whatever. It's original. It's creative. It's a test bed for all the newest tech that's going to trickle down into every other car,

Starting point is 01:05:02 the stuff you can't even see underneath that you feel while you're driving. Drive by wire steering. So it's like, you know when you're driving a car and you have to like go, ah, you gotta like turn the wheel all the way over the right. It's because there's a physical mechanical linkage between your steering wheel and the wheels.

Starting point is 01:05:19 With the Cybertruck, it's drive by wire. So there's no physical connection. It's like 100% redundant power steering, which means you basically just drive with this. You just tilt the wheel a little bit and the car goes exactly where you want it to be. So super precise, effortless steering, which matters a lot on a big car like this. Yeah, sure. There's basically only one or two other vehicles right now that have it. One of them is a $150,000 Range Rover.

Starting point is 01:05:47 And so I can see that in five years being standard. Sure. It's crazy. It just makes driving effortless. I go into another car now, even another Tesla, I'm like, oh my God, this is far worse. Shorters. Dude, my girlfriend at Target parking lot

Starting point is 01:05:58 with that thing is gonna lose a couple families. So, you know, let's just say there are some people in my life who don't like it. They prefer that I had a regular car. Isn't it so funny how like five years ago, one side of the aisle was like all four because it was electric, it was good for the plant and everything. And then five years later, it's like the other side

Starting point is 01:06:20 of the aisle is like it's electric. It's all good for the plant. Well, and then it's all four. The last two weeks, well, you don't know what to think now at all. You're sitting pretty right now. Everybody hates me enough. Has anyone hit you with the bumper sticker yet? I've gotten eggs, I've gotten spit, I've gotten an F.U. Nazi sticker right on my windshield.

Starting point is 01:06:40 Have they not heard about Henry Ford? It's like driving a Ford in the 1940s. What about Volkswagen? So I've gotten flipped off by a guy in a Volkswagen. I just want to be like, do you know who started that company? It makes zero sense. Do you know that it literally, it kind of roughly translates to like socialist mobile, basically.

Starting point is 01:06:58 It's the people's car. If you told some dude here that he was driving a socialist mobile, yeah, a little Marx mobile for the guy, he'd get his pistol and shoot you dead right now. If you told if you told some dude here that he was driving a socialist It's made me wonder a lot of things, you know, is there ever been a product you bought where you fought? What are the politics of the owner? No, yeah. Oh you drive a you know, Japanese car. Well, guess what toy I made during a little boy. Oh my god Could you imagine if we're talking about like computers and stuff like Nvidia and the chips? It's like you bought your chips from there you bought it's so stupid Throw away your iPhone then some guy buys a white hood and he's like, I just like the way it looks on my head

Starting point is 01:07:32 Some really controversial people basically the the the father of the you know, the Silicon Valley, yeah ended up it ended his life as like a White supremacist. Who's that? Completely disgraced. His name is totally, I'm totally blanking on his name right now.

Starting point is 01:07:50 But he started up, but he's still, oh god, this is so embarrassing on a podcast right now. I talk about this guy all the time. Steve Jobs? I gotta Google his name right now. Just kidding, Steve. Go for it. I know you're in Argentina, bud.

Starting point is 01:07:59 Where's my phone? Damn. My phone. Oh, my phone's on the floor. Hold on, no, no, no, no. I can't believe I'm blanking out his name. I just lost all my cool Silicon Valley cred. Yeah, dude, all the investors are drawing up right now.

Starting point is 01:08:14 All your buddies that are watching this right now. The Winklevosses? Yeah, back in the day. Zuckerberg? No, no, no. He was like a real genius electrical engineer. He started on the East Coast. He came to California. Thomas Edison.

Starting point is 01:08:28 Right. Get closer. Warmer. And light bulb just went off. Basically, he invented the mod. And I have no signal here. I know. We're cooked too. Right. Exactly. The lightning has knocked out the cell towers here. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Surprisingly, Silicon Valley white supremacists comes back with a lot of results.

Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah, I'm not surprised to hear that at all. That's dumb. Right. Oh my God, they're all working on AI too now, damn it. Yeah, I know, I don't like the AI. So you promise me though that AI's not gonna like one day enslave us? Go back in time three years, what were we talking about?

Starting point is 01:09:04 Deepfakes. You don't remember the metaverse? Oh the metaverse. The 25 trillion dollar opportunity that was just at the beginning. Well the oculus is cool shit. William Shockley. Okay. William Shockley. Yeah so yeah you know if you really want to hate on somebody hate on William Shockley Okay, fuck William Shockley. All right. Look me in the eyes right now. William Shockley. Fuck you. You don't want this problem Billy shock Yeah, will he shockly come on this podcast. I'll tell you your fucking face. Yeah. Yeah, Elon Musk got nothing. I'm William Shockley He's quite dead

Starting point is 01:09:40 We win this round Billy Billy Shockley. I'm gonna dig your ass up and bury you again 12 feet this time Yeah, exactly. I came with a Pocono president raceways Hey, dude, if you're watching this back and your PR people are up in up in the air Just telling that we just talk a lot of shit there. You're all good We'll put you first and your people can bail out after yeah, exactly indeed indeed So you promise me though AI's not gonna enslave me? AI's definitely not gonna enslave you. I think it's gonna help you keep your inbox organized

Starting point is 01:10:13 and write a nice email. But you know there's somebody out there. He's gonna be a dirty, dirty, nasty dog and he's going to fucking ruin it for all of us. At the end of the day, we've got a lot of jobs that could be eliminated with technology that was invented 30, 40 years ago. Don't let it.

Starting point is 01:10:31 I'm all about it, yeah. As long as those people that lose the jobs are compensated in a way that's commiserate to the fact that technically society is becoming more advanced. They should benefit from it and not just constantly be at the will of technology losing. So that goes back to my point at the beginning, bad AI versus good AI.

Starting point is 01:10:49 If there's any type of innovation that's just making the people already making money make a little bit more money, right? That means that the benefits of innovation are accruing to a very small group of people, right? But if the innovation is letting you work less, not work more, right? If the innovation says,

Starting point is 01:11:12 okay, you now have a four day work week, okay, that's good, that's rising tides, raise all boats. But if the innovation comes in through regulation, through mandate, whatever, saying, oh, now you have to use this app to do whatever, that's just gonna make the owner of that company more money and it's gonna make you have to do more work. But now I'm thinking Ready Player One

Starting point is 01:11:35 where everyone just lives in the metaverse and the money is just digital coins because like, understandable, is just digital coins because like, understandable, the people who are, have a work ethic will always have a work ethic and they'll be fine when it comes to AI and everything. But with the way AI is gonna help us out, and this is what I worry about is,

Starting point is 01:11:59 a lot of people are just gonna turn into absolute slops. And they're just gonna be scrolling, scrolling, scrolling all day. And they're gonna be ordering DoorDash. And they're gonna be on some platform, that's a metaversity kind of platform and shit. And they're just gonna be putting the Oculus on. And they're gonna be just fighting with people

Starting point is 01:12:16 in a different realm. Maybe so. I just think, I mean, you bring it up like the four day work week, like AI being able to reduce how much manpower you need. The way I see it, a lot of these CEOs and the shot callers would be like all right then we'll pay you for four days and then there's gonna be a new term called a Friday job everybody's gotta get a Friday job and that's gonna

Starting point is 01:12:34 be at the manufacturing plant that apparently is coming back yeah yeah we just we used to call that just two jobs yeah you're a Friday job side hustle side hustle we're grinding the gig economy well this was a very important Two jobs. You're a Friday job? Side hustle. Side hustle. We're grinding. The gig economy. Well, this was very informative. Thanks for sitting and giving us the run-in. That was really cool.

Starting point is 01:12:50 I like to help. Any companies you want to promote that people should check out? You gave us a lot of good stuff. So the most amazing thing that my firm has worked on the last couple years is not remotely related to AI. It's not particularly high tech. It actually makes the world a better place. It's called FOLLO, F-A-H-L-O.

Starting point is 01:13:12 FOLLO works with animal conservation groups around the world who track animals in the wild. And they make that tracking data available to you in an app that we built. And you get access to a koala or a giraffe. I think I've heard about that. I've heard something. Yeah. And you can, you know, follow these animals every day.

Starting point is 01:13:33 You buy bracelets that unlock different animals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know you're talking about you donate a lot of money to these conservation groups. Millions of dollars every year. All over the world. All over the world. It's more than 20 animals at this point. Red wolves, manatees, turtles, dolphins, working with a dozen different conservation partners.

Starting point is 01:13:54 For many of them, we're actually the largest single donor to all of their work. So check it out, myfollow.com, F-A-H-L-O, buy a bracelet, help an animal, and no AI. Awesome, I love it, perfect. That was great, dude, thank you so much. Thank you so much, man, that was awesome. Great to meet you, guys.

Starting point is 01:14:12 Thanks, man. Very, very cool, take care. Dude, I needed that. Yeah. I had a feeling. I'm not sold yet, I might still send you some spooky stories, but it does feel a little bit better. Dude, I doom-scrolled hard as fuck this weekend,

Starting point is 01:14:23 just being like, that AI video's funnier than me, that AI video's funnier than me that AI video is funny to me I was watching George Washington in the fucking woods dude you have to think of the cultural thing because it's not just like people aren't just a one trick pony where they see that video oh I think this is better than that I'm not gonna watch that there's gonna be a cultural thing to be like you're sitting at home and you're watching AI videos all day like if somebody's watching yourself and they're like no that's funny he's out in the open if you find out that a guy sits and watches AI videos all day? Like if somebody's watching yourself and they're like, oh, that's funny, he's out in the open. If you find out that a guy sits and watches AI videos in his free time, you're gonna be like, that guy's a dork.

Starting point is 01:14:49 What's the difference in watching like Kaisenat or other streamers and stuff for like hours on end? It's all gonna be who's gonna make fun of you. You forget that this is the way our life works. I don't think so, man. I think it's all about, like, I think this next generation coming up, it's all about just getting that taste.

Starting point is 01:15:01 It will, we'll get there eventually. I think we got about 100 years. Cause AI is gonna be- Oh, it'll be long ago. I think we've got about 100 years because the eyes will be long. AI videos are going to be like the new anime. Like you watch that in private. You don't tell anybody about it because you'll get made fun of. And then somebody finds out you got like an AI bookbag. And they're like, whoa, you watch that stuff.

Starting point is 01:15:14 You always talk about with your other black friends. Of course. Yeah. If you're only your other black friends are on the spectrum. Yeah, you find out. They're like, all right, kind of cool now. Look at that. All right.

Starting point is 01:15:22 You find you're a little niche. You're a little like guys, I hear you go to. OK, sister. Yeah, Miss girl. All, you're like, all right, kind of cool now, I can look at that. All right. You find you're a little niche, you're a little like, guys, I hear you, go to, okay, sister, yeah, miss girl. All right, and that's the episode. We appreciate everybody who tuned in, as always. Let's get to 10K on Instagram. Why not? Let's do that.

Starting point is 01:15:34 Just do it. It'd be nice for us, it'll make us feel good, our parents will love us again. It would, if you hate AI, follow us at menatpod. The road to 10K is to make my dad love me. If we get to 10K, I'll post a picture of a screenshot of him saying I love you. And dude, will the boys start commenting in the YouTube?

Starting point is 01:15:52 Same mean stuff to us. Yeah, dude, we don't have any commenters. Yeah, it's crazy. What do we have to do? Yeah, just say, hey, this video, you guys stink on ice. Or you go, hey, couple cuties on camera. I like this. You're a show for the Democratic Party?

Starting point is 01:16:04 Like, dude, what do you understand? No worries. Like, this. You're a show for the Democratic Party. Like, dude, we understand. No worries. Sorry. You would do the same for a check, Shorty? You would do, dude. People got bought by other things. Yeah. We'd get bought by anything.

Starting point is 01:16:13 AI? We just totally shit on you, dude. You want it? Cash or check, dude? By the way, yeah, preemptively AI. I am sorry about all that. Please remember, I didn't say that stuff. What did Perlman call him?

Starting point is 01:16:20 Clankers? The Clankers? Sorry, Clankers. I wouldn't say that. I would never. I would never call you Clanker. If you're watching this 20 years from now, Clanker, it wasn't us, dude. No, I call you guys elevated human experience.

Starting point is 01:16:28 That's what I call you guys. Hell yeah. Alright, talk to you. Peace.

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