Men At Work Podcast - Our Most UNHINGED Podcast Interviews of 2024
Episode Date: December 26, 2024Happy Holidays everyone! Here are our most unhinged interviews of 2024! Thank you to everyone who tuned in this year! We can't wait to bring your more unhinged interviews in 2025! 00:00 - PPA's Bigge...st Hater 3:37 - He Stepped to the Mob! 16:34 - This Lady HATED Us at the Trump/Harris Debate 22:34 - The Most Famous Furry in the World! 32:17 - Mailman Sees Something Horrific During Work 48:25 - The Greatest Speller in the World About Us: The Men At Work Podcast asks one question: What do you do for work? After that the conversation flows from there. We’ve met substitute teachers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and more. And we’ll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a baseball game, a bar crawl, casino, and more. We like to find out what people do for a living. If you want us to come to your event email us at: menatpodcast@gmail.com Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/fZile9_Pn3E If you want more bonus content from every episode check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod *If you subscribe to the Patreon consider subscribing on a desktop or website or an android device, NOT THROUGH iOS (Apple) APP. Apple takes 30% of every month you're subscribed (yea they suck). Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ Follow Kyle: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb Follow Vito: https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en
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How are you, sir? We do a podcast about the PPA and how much we hate it.
Hey, what's up, man? How are you?
Just want to talk about that. Just two minutes. It's all I need for me.
Talk about the PPA real quick. What's your experience with them?
I'm a squad there if you want. I got to stay limber.
My experience is there. I consider them domestic terrorists.
Really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're worse than Al Qaeda.
I don't think people would disagree with that.
Yeah.
I mean, at least Al-Qaeda has a purpose.
These people are just parasites.
True.
I'm assuming you've had a lot of run-ins with them.
Enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How many?
I mean, I've successfully Photoshopped myself out of multiple parking tickets.
No way.
Let's hear this.
Yeah. shop myself out of multiple parking tickets no way let's hear this yeah how if you put the wrong
time in so let's just say you get a ticket in a metered spot
let me yeah let me face away well too yeah sure uh anyway not not that i'm anyway but so i just
changed the times back to and i said, oh, it's your system that's
fucked up, not not mine.
So retroactively, you buy the ticket after you get it.
After you get a ticket and then you correct for your, you know, so you set the clock back.
So if like you got a ticket at 6 18 you would photoshop
it like 4 18 and be like i there's like 6 12 or whatever yeah so something like that yeah
and it works usually how like what's the success rate on that that's 100 i have 100 fail rate on
actually fighting a ticket for real yeah dude these fucking cocksuckers uh these pieces of shit they were
like oh yeah uh we got a hand part they told me i had a set i had paid one ticket and they're like
they sent me immediately sent me the same ticket and they're like no no no uh it's a new ticket
and i was like no it the fuck isn't man um wow There was a story of a woman out in Pittsburgh who got a ticket from the PPA.
Yeah.
She was out in Pittsburgh.
She's never driven herself in Philadelphia ever.
Yeah.
Well, someone at the PPA, instead of putting a W where the license plate was, they put
an M and her license plate happened to be an M.
So she got a ticket in the mail all the way on Pittsburgh.
She's like, listen, I'd never have driven in Philadelphia.
They're like, we can't do anything about it.
You got to come fight it. She's like, I got to come drive six hours away. She fought it for like, I'd never have driven in Philadelphia. They're like, we can't do anything about it. You got to come fight it.
She's like, I got to come drive six hours away.
She fought it for like six months, six months, six months.
Finally, all they did was go back in and was like, oh, this is your license plate?
Oh, sorry.
We put a W instead of an M.
Yeah.
That's the kind of fucking people we're dealing with.
Wow.
Like I said, domestic terrorists worse than Al-Qaeda.
Good luck with your pot.
Thank you, man.
We really appreciate it, dude.
Excellent.
That dude just dropping fucking knowledge.
I love it.
I love it, dude.
That's what we were looking for.
And he doesn't even want the socials.
He says he's the Batman.
He's the Batman of hating BB.
Holy shit.
He's got to go protect Gotham, dude.
Oh, my God.
He's the duck man.
He's got a duck on his shirt.
He's the Batman.
He's duck man.
Dude.
That's exactly what we needed from a guy.
We needed that gusto, man.
Yeah, dude.
I need someone with that much hate.
I haven't seen that much hate since Kendrick Lamar recorded.
Not like us.
I like that it's such a level of hatred where it's actually pretty common measured.
The hatred's brewed for so long that it's just become one with it.
Dude, Al-Qaeda.
That guy could look more and see himself more in Al-Qaeda than he could in the PPA.
People, that's all you need to know is what we're talking about right now.
And it was right off rip, too.
There was no, like, we're like, what do you think of PPA?
It's like, who are those, cocksucking terrorists?
Whoa, okay, yeah.
Dude, he's been waiting, like, his entire life to sit down with a podcast.
Can we load a bit?
Hey, tell us about the PPA, dude.
And he did not pull any punches.
I respect it.
We're doing a podcast where people tell us what they do for a living.
Would you like to hop on?
Yeah, sure.
Cool.
Hang out.
You can throw those on grab the microphone
what's your first name uh evan evan evan nice from the area center city born and raised right
now square wow never left uh yeah i went to college in boston and came back what do you do
for a living i'm retired what'd you do i was a union electrician for 37 years. Oh. I've been retired for five years. No kidding.
A blue-collar baby.
One of us.
Went to Northeastern in Boston, came back here, and got in the union and did that for...
So did you use your degree?
Because Northeastern is a really, really good school.
I mean, I didn't use my degree as an electrician.
Then I went to five years of trade school after five years of Northeastern because of the co-op.
Were your parents pissed?
No, no.
I mean, you know, to tell you the truth, if you're a union electrician,
I'm about 13 years ahead of a doctor in the earning curve who's paying medical school.
He's paying malpractice insurance.
He's an intern, And I'm making six figures
ten years ahead of him.
That's actually big on TikTok right now.
He's in his late 40s or 50s before he's caught up
to me. So people might look down at you,
but a union electrician right now
probably makes minimum
$1.50 starting.
That's without overtime.
I don't know if you're on TikTok,
but we're on TikTok.
No, I'm not on any media.
Trades, the trades are like really big right now.
The trades have always been the go-to.
But people are starting to realize.
Because they always book down the trades.
That's a stigma.
There's a weird kind of like, or not a hand on that one.
As somebody who could barely do four years of college.
You could do side work all the time if you want, you know.
Also.
A doctor can't do side work.
If you want to fix up a house.
You want to fix up a house.
Don't got to call an electrician.
Yeah.
I got my guy, Evan.
What we're trying to say is doctors are idiots.
Yeah, doctors are idiots.
We don't need doctors is what we're saying.
No, no.
But, you know, you could go on vacation.
And if you go to the Union Hall in Hawaii, you could sign up and work for a week.
Absolutely.
Get a paid vacation.
Oh, it's like a traveling nurse.
It is.
Like the odd job of somebody who can actually do some kind of manual labor or actually help around the house is so—
I mean, you call the uncle who can get everything done.
You know how many times I get side calls, you know, people for side jobs?
Yeah.
I don't do side jobs, but I get calls all the time, you know, a ceiling fan or a light fixture or something.
Absolutely.
Is Philadelphia a good union city?
Philadelphia is one of the few union cities left.
Yeah, there's not many.
What are the other ones?
I think Chicago, New York,
East Coast, big cities.
What labor were you in?
Shout the boys out. What number?
Local 98. Beautiful.
IBEW. Cool. Oh, I know those guys.
They sponsor the Phillies. Yeah, yeah.
Were you there when Jim Tomei came?
Yeah, yeah. I wasn't there. I mean, I was in the
union. I remember when he showed up at the stadium.
So Jim Tomei comes for his free agency visit.
Yeah.
And his dad was a union laborer.
Yeah, all the 98 guys were outside cheering him on.
What a good move.
Yeah, yeah.
What a great move.
He signed with the Phillies.
Yeah, he signed with the Phillies, yeah.
The rest is history.
Yeah.
No, that's awesome, man.
That's so cool.
I mean, I think right now, like, people, you know,
I went to college.
I had a marketing degree, so I guess I technically do what I did.
What did you do in college? Finance. I had the face and the haircut i don't have the job
it's not i did business management oh there we go so co-op for five years i think that's the go-to
when you don't really feel like being in college it's like i'll get a business degree shut the
parents up and then i'll go from there it really is the move what would you if someone's like
watching this right now going through college or just out of college because like i went through
it i used to work at the big tower in the sky, Comcast. I was in recruiting.
I hated my life.
Good job.
I got a couple buddies there.
Good job, good people and everything.
But you're doing the same thing, the rat race and all that stuff.
And I knew I wasn't supposed to be where I was,
and I was kind of like 26 years old being like, damn, life's over.
So what do you do now?
So now I do this and I do content and stuff. So I was one of the lucky ones.
I got out.
You got out?
I got out.
What advice, though, would you give people if they were watching this kind of in college right now or out of college?
I think if you can get in any of the building trades, a carpenter is a great trade, an electrician, a plumber.
And if you're not aspirations to be a doctor or a lawyer or something like that, then I would get in the building trades.
If you can get in, it's tough to get in, but if you can get in, I would get in the building trades. I mean, if you can get in, you know, it's tough to get in, but if you can get in, you know, I would get in.
But is that even for people who aren't kind of like innately handy?
Like is it something that you think can be learned?
Well, no. First of all, you can't be afraid of heights.
Sure.
I'm out.
That'll do.
Yeah, because, you know, you're on a deck job on a high rise 30 stories up.
You're afraid of heights.
You're 6'5", dude.
Don't look down.
You're screwed.
And then you have to be somewhat handy or want to be handy, you know.
Yeah, sure.
If you have no desire to be handy, then don't bother.
Once again, not a union guy.
I am probably the opposite of any union guy.
I'm not handy.
It doesn't have to be union.
It could be union, non-union, whatever.
But my goal in life is to make so much money that I don't ever have to fix things
and I can just pay somebody.
Yeah.
Like, I want you.
We'd call you.
We'd say, please help.
Do you need any nephews?
No, I don't. You're not recruiting. We'd say, please help. Do you need any nephews? No, I don't.
You're not recruiting any nephews?
We could really use you here.
I rent, and I just had to call.
I poured beans down my garbage disposal, and they don't break down.
So I had to call a real man to come unclog my garbage disposal earlier this week.
That's pretty bad.
Unclog his beans.
That's pretty bad.
That's unhandy.
Beans, I didn't think were that damn dense.
This is a true story I probably shouldn't have shared.
Also, potato peels, you're not supposed to throw down there.
Yeah.
There's too many.
Oil, too, right?
Oil, too, yeah.
Really?
Well, if you rent, you know, whatever.
That's true.
I haven't rented, so.
See, I don't do any social media, no Facebook, TikTok.
I don't even know how to get on that stuff.
Well, that's, yeah.
I'm old, so.
That's a good move.
Probably for the best.
Yeah, well, too old to learn it.
What year did you graduate college?
82.
82.
Wow, you look very young.
66.
You'd think the union would weather you a little bit.
Yeah.
I've seen some union guys.
Well, I was at the convention center for 27 years.
That's a good gig.
That was a good gig.
Yeah.
So I was on a deck for nine years. That's a good gig. That was a good gig. Yeah. So I was on a deck for nine years.
Okay.
If I was on a deck my whole life,
I'd be a little more banged up.
Sure.
Is there any projects that, like,
anyone would know around the city
that you've worked on?
Liberty One, Liberty Two,
the Rittenhouse Hotel right here.
And then Liberty One and Liberty Two
are right in front of us right here,
which is really cool.
Rittenhouse was my first job.
Cool.
Still standing. Looks Cool. Still standing.
Looks good.
Still standing.
I worked down at the casinos, the Playboy, the Claridge.
Really?
Where was the Playboy at?
Well, they're all closed.
The first three I worked at.
It was down at the casino.
Where Sugarhouse is?
Trump Tower.
It was at Trump, the Playboy, the Claridge, the Brighton.
The first three or four closed down.
That was down in Atlantic City?
Atlantic City, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Any crazy stories?
Anything you saw while you were working down there?
A lot of crazy stories, but we don't have enough time.
Give us one.
We have all the time in the world.
Seriously, we're just two guys in a park.
Where's this going to?
YouTube.
It's just YouTube, yeah.
If you want to censor it or leave things out, by all means.
I mean, there were some crazy stories at the convention center when I first got down there.
There was a lot of pilferage.
So if you needed a TV, you know, exhibitors would come with all their TVs.
Right.
And I saw a guy go in the hopper in the restroom, an exhibitor, with his TV.
A forklift came, picked up the TV, put it on a pickup truck,
and took off before he got out of the bathroom, you know.
Or you would say, I'm working there, I wanted a TV.
The TVs would go in the back on the trucks.
You'd take the TV out of the box.
The box would get checked, the number right in the boxes.
They would get to California, an empty box with no TV in it.
Oh, jeez.
You know, because they would do the number, the checks.
Sure.
But no TV would be in it.
And then guys would take TVs, put them in the parking lot out back,
and another guy would steal, break into the car and take it off.
I mean, you can't report a TV that's already stolen.
And the guys were stealing TVs off each other.
Well, I'm guessing this is probably a while ago,
so TVs are probably heavy as hell at this point.
The boxes are probably massive.
This is when the flat screen just came out.
Okay, just got a flat screen.
Let me see, I get there in 93, so early 90s.
Okay. flat screen just came out okay just got a flat screen okay i get there in 93 so early 90s okay
but uh yeah i mean i saw fights i mean the 90s at the uh convention center everybody's making big
money and there was 600 guys from different uh brought up in different neighborhoods and it was
you know the trades were fighting each other for work and so there was fights every day fist fights
every day um they brought a guy down there
named the gorilla you know who the girl is never good no no let me show you a picture hold on i
have an image in my head i love that yeah i love that you just have a picture of the gorilla it's
his it's a wallpaper yeah oh my god that's his uh that'll do it the headline is gorilla is out
of jail and the law is watching.
He was out of the peg.
And so the Carpenters brought him down there to straighten out the laborers
because the laborers were muscling on the Carpenters' work.
So they gave him a union ticket.
He's not a Carpenter.
You just hired him to be the muscle?
Yeah, just hired him to be the muscle.
And he went around knocking her.
He was like 9-0.
He's undefeated down there.
So he would just challenge a guy to a fight, like maybe the leader?
He knocked me out.
Why did you go against the gorilla?
Well, I didn't go against him.
He said I was being a smartass.
Were you being a smartass?
Probably, yeah.
So then afterwards, I had to get a mob guy to come with me and apologize to him
because I was afraid they'd burn my house down.
Oh, my God.
So I had to apologize to him for beating me up.
He's 300.
I'm 150.
Yeah.
He asked me if I wanted some more. I said, I didn't want anything to begin with.
I wasn't even hungry. So how did the gorilla pick and choose who he went after?
Well, his higher-ups would say, look, this guy's trying to muscle in our work. He called a picket line. He said, anybody cross it, I'll knock them out. A guy tried crossing, he knocked them right out.
Holy shit.
His own picket line at the convention center.
And was the gorilla from the area? Yeah he's the south philly south philly
got hurt yeah now when you went against him did you get any licks in anything or just kind of
one and done but i kind of got my bones getting in the fight with him sure oh so you got some street
credit yeah i got it it has to i mean that guy's massive he ended up getting shot nine times and
survived i brought an organ in brought an organ and brought daylight.
Brought an organ and brought daylight?
The gorilla's still with us?
Yeah, he's still alive.
He got out of jail.
Took like four cops to get him at the convention center.
They had to knock his legs down, double cuff him.
Wow.
So you get a little bit of kind of cred from that.
Did you interact with him at all after or kind of see each other and go look?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His name's Steve. Okay. Steve Monteveriegro. Yeah. a little bit of kind of cred from that did you interact with him at all after or kind of see each other and go look steve okay steve montevideo uh yeah turns out maybe 20 years later my brother
is in a car show in a car club so he said you know every 10 guys get to dinner and uh we talk
about cars so we got there they wanted to hear some stories i told him about the gorilla story
another guy in the car club was a gorilla's brother. Oh my God. I didn't even know it.
He's everywhere.
Yeah.
Geez.
They don't talk,
but it was his brother.
Dude.
Yeah.
That's sick.
And then one guy got knocked down and they drew a chalk outline on the,
no way.
Yeah.
At the convention center on the ground,
you know,
where he got knocked out.
Hey,
there's a bunch of fucking comedians in the trades.
It's unbelievable.
I would have never known that the union got down like this.
Maybe I'm just naive,
but I didn't realize that there was this much kind of...
Well, it's a lot different.
Are there any good books for anyone to read?
Or you just kind of lived it so you don't really give a shit?
I mean, there's plenty of mob books.
There's no books about the convention center.
Wow.
But, yeah, it was interesting.
Do you have any buddies that are still in it?
Do you know what it's like today?
Yeah, a lot of buddies.
Yeah, I mean, I meet the guys maybe every two weeks for lunch.
Is it better or is it worse now?
No, it's much better.
They cleaned it all up.
Yeah.
My business agent at the time was named Johnny Dougherty.
I've heard.
Yeah.
I've heard of him.
Yeah.
He's the one that got me down to the convention center.
I met him in 93.
I was laid off.
I was number 700 on the list.
Wow.
In 91.
My number came up.
In 93, we had lunch.
He says, well, I got this gig at the convention center.
He says, at the time, it was part
time. There wasn't a lot of shows down
there. I said, all right, well, I need one more
year to get vested. I said, I'll go down
there. I ended up staying there 27 years.
Wow. So, Johnny
Duck, he's always in the news, everything.
What's he like from a perspective of
a guy who... Well, first of all, he kept me working for
36 years,
so I have nothing bad to say about him.
That's fair.
You know, he's a diehard for his guys, you know.
The other stuff I have no comment on.
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, he was good for me, so he kept my family, you know.
I got to say, man, you must have loved it because you came on here
and you're like, if you're looking for a job, go into the trades, don't be scared.
And you did it, and you got your shit rocked by a guy named the Gorilla.
You must have loved the job.
I loved the job.
I could have worked 10 more years, but with our pension and annuity,
it was cheaper for me to stay home than working.
Why should I risk getting injured?
Yeah, that's the biggest endorsement.
It's a great gig.
Plus, I had a good gig at the convention center.
But even in the field, it's a good gig.
One last question for you.
You're retired now.
Yeah.
I mean, you lived a great life.
You lived an exciting life.
What the hell do you do to compensate for it now?
That's a good question.
My mom's 96, so I go take care of her bills.
I go eat lunch in the city and walk around and do this and just kill the day.
For 27 years, you had the time of your life, and now it's time to settle down.
I like it.
You earned it.
Thanks so much, man.
Evan, right?
Nice talking to you, Evan.
Dude, awesome.
Great meeting you.
Thanks for coming on.
Great stories and everything.
We really appreciate it.
Hey, guys.
Hi, ladies.
Hey, guys.
Hi.
Hey, friends.
Hey, how are you?
Hey, guys.
Hi, ladies.
Hey, down here.
Hey.
Hey, Wasabi.
Hey.
How we doing?
How's your day going?
How are we? You doing okay? Hi's your day going? How are we?
You doing okay?
Hi, how are you?
How you doing?
Welcome.
You guys want to sit down and hang out for a little bit?
Hey, you want to come on the podcast?
How are you?
Great.
My name's Kyle.
This is Matt.
Nice to meet you.
We're the men at...
What's that mean?
Kyle and Matt.
Common names.
Okay.
Shauna, nice to meet you.
Shauna, come on.
I think we're getting all over the wrong foot here.
Shauna, I don't want to start that way, Shauna.
I think you have predisposed ideas about the family.
Yeah, I don't think you like us.
I think you think a little differently than we really are.
So anyway, so we're the Men at Work podcast.
And the reason why we're out here is we ask you what they do for a living.
And we also want to find out who people are voting for and how it affects their jobs.
Great.
So I'm a healthcare worker.
Love it.
And then who are you voting for?
Kamala.
Kamala, okay.
Just kidding. Kamala.
Oh, okay. Okay, I like that.
Said it wrong initially and reversed it. I've been there many times. Yeah. She would give us intentional.
Okay. Oh, why?
Because of the mispronunciation of her name.
Is that widespread? Did I mispronounce it?
No, just in general. Oh, okay.
Sorry, so I get the right pronunciation. What is it?
Kamala. Kamala.
Yeah, I've definitely been a Kamala guy.
I've gone back and forth.
I've gone back and forth.
Yeah, because I think I'm being short. How do you go back and forth on how someone else pronounces their name?
Like water, water, crown, crayon.
But it's someone's name, not like an object.
It just can't be perfect.
Yeah.
I try my hardest just to be the best guy I can be.
So I feel like you...
Thanks, Kyle.
Yes, no problem.
Yeah, Sean.
People call me Kylie. What happens feel like you... Thanks, Kyle. Yes, no problem. People call me Kylie.
What happens?
So you're a healthcare worker.
Oh, no, people have called me lots of things.
Well, we're just calling you out.
Not us.
I'm happy for sitting down with us.
So you're a healthcare worker.
You're voting for Kamala.
Do those things mix together?
Do you inform your decision?
All right, come on.
I said it right.
I was checking.
You did it right?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
If you don't mind talking to the mic.
Sorry, we can't really hear you.
No, it's cool.
Go ahead.
So you're a healthcare worker.
You're voting for Kamala.
Are those two things intertwined, or do you look at your politics different from how it works with your job?
Are there things in your job that inform how you vote and why you're voting for Kamala?
It's, I mean, both. So it would, meaning like the party and the particular politics depend on what kind of thing I'm voting for.
So, of course.
Sure.
But I don't know how to answer that.
Do you want to reference the question differently?
Yeah, I guess we just wonder about, you hear about people who are voting maybe for Trump because they're worried about how much money they're making.
You hear about people that work at a certain job series.
And I think the job series or what they do for a living
would obviously inform who they're voting for.
Is there anything directly in your job that has led you to vote for Kamala,
or is it like a totally outside thing?
Oh, sure, I'm in health care.
I mean, usually you vote Democrat because they, for the most part,
put in more human rights and that kind of thing.
Has there ever been a Republican candidate that was actually good for health care?
Yes.
Oh, who's that?
I don't know off the top of my head, but yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Is that like a thing that's maybe instead of being like a specific candidate,
is it somebody that's assigned to like certain parties?
Is there a party that's better for your line of work?
Democrat.
Democrat in general?
For the most part.
Gotcha.
Are you a doctor, a nurse, a PhD? Are you in?
Mental health.
Mental health.
Okay.
Okay.
And have you found that like mental health, a lot of your industry sways Democrat?
They have to.
They have to.
Why so?
Because of the policies.
Policies in terms of like funding and you're not getting a lot of funds?
Not necessarily even money, just the mindset. We're two
idiots that don't follow politics. Yeah, we're not
really. Yeah, I can see.
You're coming very angry. We're just hanging out. We're
hanging tense, Shauna. I don't feel angry.
What kind of policies?
I don't feel angry.
Oh, well, you disagree that we're idiots. Usually people will at least
like, you know, just be polite and we'll just say, oh,
you know, whatever. Why would I be polite?
You don't have to. You can do whatever you want.
I know.
Of course. Yeah.
So that's why I come off angry to you.
Why is that?
Because you think I'm supposed to be polite.
No, I don't. I just said you could.
I'm in mental health. You said you wanted to talk about work.
Yes.
So that's your perception.
So you're obviously not a fan of the other side. Do you look at their mental health like there's something wrong?
I don't believe in sides. That's part of the problem.
Okay. So you're voting for Kamala.
It's come down to Kamala Trump.
Do you look at people who support Trump?
Because I have to.
Right, right, right.
But do you look at people who are supporting Trump as there might be something from a mental health perspective that you...
Yes, Trump is very ill.
Right.
Anybody that speaks the way he speaks about minorities and women, I mean, that's narcissism.
80% of mental health and health care believes that.
It's not like a...
We don't have a back and forth about it for the most part.
I mean, certain areas of the country, sure.
But his supporters in particular,
like people that are just gung-ho, nuts, kind of...
The poorly educated?
Is that what you think it is?
It's just an education issue?
They don't...
No, I think it's a race issue for the most part.
Okay, so it's multiple things.
Gotcha. I can read micro-express part. Oh, wow. So it's multiple things. Gotcha.
I can read micro-expressions.
Oh, what's that?
Exactly.
What do you think the micro-expressions that we're giving?
Is it about us, you're saying, or about the people who support Trump?
Everybody has micro-expressions.
It's like asking me if somebody has an eye.
Yes, but you brought it up.
I thought maybe you noticed some specific micro-expressions on like from them so i have worked with sex offenders okay for about
20 years okay and i have a 90 rate of being able to figure out if someone could assault somebody
prior to them doing so right and i can tell you for sure that Trump is a rapist and I didn't need the news media
or the fake news media
to tell me that. Sure.
Got it. Okay.
Alright.
I don't have anything else. Yeah, I think that's it.
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
I appreciate it. Yeah, we have, I'm sorry, I got a little
clammy. No, no problem.
He's got all the socials for you and everything.
Okay, great. Thank you. Thanks again. And thank you for sitting down the socials for you and everything. Okay, great.
Thank you.
Thanks again.
And thank you for sitting down.
Yeah, thank you very much.
We appreciate it.
Man.
We're just going to bring the next guy on with the dog.
Yeah.
Furries have jobs.
Furries have jobs.
Furries have jobs, right?
Furries with jobs.
Eh.
This fox is saying sometimes.
You're retired?
Wow. Oh, my God.
You have animatronics.
His mouth moves.
That one's pretty sick.
Dude, that's crazy.
You just want to come on the pod?
Just totally ruin our intro?
Just come on.
We'd love to have you on.
The animatronics is very exciting to see.
Here, go take a seat.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a trap.
I promise you, it's a trap by M promise you it's... It's a little trap.
Yeah.
It's Trap by M. Night Shyamalan.
I've already been on there.
Huh?
I've already been on Fox News.
You've been on Fox News?
Yeah.
Did you just bark at me?
He is a fox, dude.
He is Fox News.
Here, talk into the mic.
Ruff.
Ruff, ruff, ruff, ruff.
Beautiful.
Ruff, ruff, ruff, ruff.
So you've been on Fox News?
Not intentionally, but yeah.
Yeah, talk into the mic.
Ruff. I like the to them like... Ralph.
I like that.
Ralph's a bit...
The parking's great.
Yes, by the way.
What's your persona?
Google Pup Ravage, and it's all over the place.
Pup Ravage?
Pup Ravage.
Ralph.
That's your name?
Yeah.
Oh, sweet.
Well, welcome to the Philadelphia, Pup Ravage.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, Philadelphia.
What is this, though?
This is a podcast called Men at Work.
We ask people what they do for a living.
Oh, but I'm retired.
What did you used to do?
I was in the Army for almost 30 years.
Wow.
Well, thank you for your service.
Are you the guy who went viral, who retired from the military,
and then said, by the way, I'm a furry,
and all the Chinese and all the Russian bots were making fun of us
because our military are furries?
No.
Is that you?
Right, right, right.
No way.
Is that really you?
Shane Gillis has an entire joke about it in his special.
On Twitter, I saw a picture of this guy.
He was retiring from the military, and when he retired, he posted a picture of himself,
full military uniform, all of his medals, but he was wearing a furry mask.
Are you aware of this?
Rar!
Wait, hold on.
Are you aware of this?
Yes!
Rar!
Oh my God.
Wow, Rar.
Dude, we're meeting a literal famous furry Rar. Oh, my God.
Dude, we're meeting a literal famous furry right here.
This is so cool.
Rar, rar, rar, rar, rar, rar.
What?
Dude, so you were like droning motherfuckers and then dressing up like a furry on the weekend.
No, I was a colonel. I don't do drones.
The comedian did that.
Talking to the mic.
I'm a general.
I was only a colonel
I'm not a general
That's a colonel
Oh my gosh
Dude that's a high rank
Well we
I don't know
This is
I just
I can't get over the mouth
The mouth is moving
I love it
The most famous person
We've had on this podcast
Holy shit dude
So we have to ask
So you're somewhat
Semi-famous now
So I imagine you've seen the
shane gillis bit he's a philly guy yeah yeah what was your reaction what did you think when you first
saw it he's talking about i mean i didn't see it at first but i mean of course people like oh my
god have you seen this and because he did that and then i guess some cartoon thing did it like a
two months ago sure no it's yeah i'm sorry that sorry. That's awesome. No, we're turning up. We want to make sure we hear
Holy shit, so wait
So did the boys to the good old boys know that you were a furry when they were being when you're basically telling to do
Push-ups and run miles and stuff
I mean, I mean, I've been obviously gay forever and I've spent three quarters of my life under Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
Yeah, that's true.
I had to hide all of my life.
Yeah.
My private life.
Shame.
My professional life.
Sweet.
And so it was always even after Don't Ask, Don't Tell was dropped.
It still was such a high rank.
It's still like, yeah, I still if I want to advance in rank, I need to keep this stuff quiet.
Yeah. So, yeah, I did until the day after i retired and i posted that infamous picture and then i'll hell break loose
so oh my god this is i mean we are i'm like nervous i'm around a real celebrity here but uh i mean
so did it did it change your interactions did it change your interactions at the furry convention after you get a little more
fame from it or i mean i mean i was i've been a pup and stuff for a long time like i know sorry
sorry i've been a pup for a long time yeah and that was what you know first and i was interested
in furry but at the end i was living in hawaii for the past four years and you don't wear this shit hawaii because you die sure um so i was gonna like get into this after i retired and you know and pop and fur have
you know some overlap there's a venn diagram there uh so yeah um and then it all broke down
and i had so much support from the fur community after all that
shit went down with Fox news.
Right.
I'm like,
well,
I'm going to dive headfirst into this.
And that's,
I started going to conventions.
Gosh,
it's only been like a year and a half now.
Right.
Uh,
but yeah,
I'm all in and it's,
I'm having a great time.
I'm surprised you don't have any security walking around with you.
I mean,
we're in the,
we're in the presence of a star.
Yeah.
It's a small convention.
It's all like,
you know,
small con. Small con.
So how's your life changed since all the whole viral stuff?
Actually, I mean, a year and a half ago when this happened,
I'm like, this is fucking, I'm sorry.
No, you can curse.
It was fucking horrible because, I mean, at the time,
I mean, my Twitter was open, but my Facebook was open.
And these people found out my name.
They went after myself and my siblings and my parents.
They're all getting like hateful messages.
Yeah, it's awful.
And so I just shut everything down.
But in hindsight, I've gotten so many new friends and just supporters and stuff that I mean, I wouldn't wish it again, but I've just met so many good people through this experience that I'm not,
I'm not, I wouldn't have wanted to do it again,
but I'm not sorry it happened at this point.
You've learned, yeah.
I've just met so many good people.
It's not how you start, it's how you finish.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Wow, that's pretty.
Can I boop you?
Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof.
Woof, woof, woof, woof boop you? Oh, my God.
I have to ask.
We've seen a lot of incredible costumes so far today.
Never with the mouth that moves along with somebody speaking.
That's got to be high tech.
It's Sarah Kett Fursuits, and she's here.
She has a booth downstairs.
Nice.
Yeah, because most of my stuff, I mean, pup hoods don't move,
and most fur hoods don't move, but she, yeah, she's got springs and stuff,
and that's amazing.
That is so, it looks, yeah.
It looks great.
It looks incredible.
Like, looking at you, it feels like I'm talking to, like, an actual,
this is incredible.
I love the Fox, like, the dirt bike regalia, too.
No, I actually, I have a motorcycle.
Are they a sponsor?
It's an orange.
So I actually ride in this.
Are they a sponsor?
You've got to get some sponsorship dollars, dude.
You're promoting this shit for free?
You're famous, dude.
I'm not sure this is the right sponsorship they want, but yeah.
Why not?
Attack another demo.
This is incredible.
Dude, you're a colonel in the military.
You can tell anybody anything.
You're giving out demands, dude.
Oh, it's been fun.
Can you give us your best colonel voice?
Like what the voice you would use if you're like really trying to get something done?
Because I know obviously colonels are dealing with some of the most higher stress things on the planet.
No, I mean, you don't have to be an asshole.
It's rank doesn't matter.
It's your person.
They're going to follow you.
If they trust you,
if they trust you as a leader,
not just because you're wearing something on,
on your,
on your thing or something on your head shoulders.
And that's when this,
when I was doxxed,
when they threw my name out.
Yeah.
Um,
that's probably the most proud thing.
I was that a lot of people i didn't know a lot of
alt-right and religious people came after me but nobody i ever served with nobody i ever led
came out like said yeah he was a fucking asshole i had them all the time so the boys were cool
they had your back had anybody had that yeah they're like they came to my defense that's awesome
good good not knowing this part about me so that's awesome. I was happy about that.
That's very cool to hear.
That's very cool.
Well, I mean, I guess before we let you run, again,
thank you for hanging out with us.
I don't know if it's just beautiful timing.
Shane Gillis is in Philadelphia this whole time.
I swear to God.
I think he's, like, doing shows at Helium.
You should literally sit in the crowd.
You should go.
I've got my brown pup hood with me. Dude, maybe maybe we set that up look i'll tell you this picture i've got
that brown pup hood with me so i think he'll be at helium maybe next monday if you're around this
could be in the cards so that's awesome yeah settle the score rough rough rough indeed man
dude ravage thank you so much this was great thank you for your, thank you so much. This was great. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. You got a great mentality.
Thank you so much.
Roof.
Roof.
Roof.
Roof.
Dude, awesome.
That's sick.
That is so funny.
Oh, my God.
I mean.
That dude literally.
That dude.
Well, we didn't win Afghanistan, but but it wasn't because of Ravage.
I want to put that out there.
It wasn't because of Ravage.
Ravage, thank you again for your service.
Thank you for hanging out.
He wasn't the one.
Yeah, he wasn't looking for the WMDs.
He was just directed.
Way to go.
He is the WMD, dude.
He is the weapon of mass destruction.
That was everything about it from the the animatronic
talking where i don't know if you get this dude i am gonna fuck a furry i like i don't know what's
happening did you know all this i got one i don't know whatever dude something that if it's gonna
happen it's gonna happen and she can deal with the aftermath they look at you like the eyes are
beautiful and big and excited.
And then when you get the mouth moving and also like something about a skater boy wearing like the Fox body armor, like a little motorcycle type thing.
That gets me.
I'm excited as heck.
Brings you back to the boyhood.
Yeah, man.
I have a penis erection.
I have.
Yeah.
Is that a.
That's Tyler, the creator.
No, this is Ben Simmons's agent.
Is this Rich Paul? Is this Rich Paul? Yeah, I think it might be Richie Paul. What's up, the creator. No, this is Ben Simmons' agent. Is this Rich Paul?
Is this Rich Paul?
Yeah, I think it might be Richie Paul.
What's up, man?
How are you?
What's up, bro?
How you doing, man?
Come on the pod.
Wherever you want to sit.
Sit on this side because we have headphones for you.
What's up, man?
How are you?
What's your first name?
My name is Chris.
Chris?
Yes, sir.
Nice.
I'm Kyle.
This is Matt.
What's up, man?
Pleasure.
We're the Men Who Work podcast.
We ask people what they do for a living.
Okay.
And we just go around places, random places like Shank's Original. What do you do for a living?
Well, right now I have two ways to make money. I do Rody, which is a company through UPS.
Basically, same day delivery for anything and you don't have to package it.
Wow.
So mainly, lately, I've been doing a lot of uh
luggage delivery i'm not sure if you heard about delta in the news recently yeah we have deltas
screw tell us about that a little bit what's going on with delta really keen on exactly what's going
on we'll fill in the blanks as much as you know um left uh a lot of uh luggage that hasn't reached
this destination when it should have. So, um,
how long ago is this?
Um,
I believe like two weeks.
Is this because of the shut,
the crowd strikes shut down or is this because I think it's all getting together,
right?
Like all the plane issues is also bleeding into like all the issues with
luggage.
Is that about right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Basically.
So,
um,
as well as,
uh,
I've been doing a lot of,
um,
luggage deliveries for them.
Yeah.
And I also have been doing Instacart.
I haven't been doing it as much, but that was my main source of income.
So this Rody app, I'm guessing it is?
Yes, it is.
Is it a pretty lucrative deal?
Because people probably don't even know about it.
So the rates have got to be pretty good, right?
It can be.
Depends on distance.
I'll say it depends on distance and uh time of day because got it pay
typically goes up when it gets later and um if you're going like harrisburg then of course they're
going to pay more damn you're going that far yeah sometimes where's the far as you've been about
three three hours 15 minutes out um and still in pennsylvania but i'm not even familiar with what
part it was that That was prescription delivery.
So they do prescriptions,
luggage.
This place is called Rhodey?
Rhodey.
It's not a physical place.
It's just an app.
I bring Rhodeys every time I drive,
but that's not,
it's kind of a different thing.
R-O-A-D-I-E.
Oh,
yeah.
Same spelling.
That's crazy,
man.
How'd you hear about it?
Hmm.
How did I hear about it?
Um,
I think it was just like a random search because at one point I love on demand type jobs where I can log on and log off as I please.
Yeah, the gig economy.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So I was just searching those type apps at one point in time and I found quite a few.
And that one was one that stuck basically.
So back to the Delta thing.
I mean, it seems like planes are just losing their minds right now.
Like flights are delayed, all these different issues.
What do you think the primary issue is with the luggage
deliveries?
What would you guess?
I'm informed enough to really speak on the topic.
Give us your opinion.
Are people pulling the things out and wearing the stuff
and wearing my coolest t-shirt? Is that happening?
I have no
idea. I just know
there's a lot of luggage that's not where it should be.
Some doesn't meet its connecting flight. Some like they told me one time I got there that Spirit Airlines flights.
Delta representative telling me Spirit Airlines flight didn't take off, sat on the runway for six hours.
And I guess they canceled or whatever happened happened i don't know the technicality
but um they end up having to process their luggage so we were delivering delta airline
and spirit airlines luggage to where it needed to be really well that's nice it's all seems
connected because i'm a big thrifter myself and a lot of the thrifts i go to they say one of their
biggest ways of getting like nicer higher brand clothes in is if a luggage bag goes unclaimed, it gets sold to these thrift stores, these for-profit thrift stores.
I've been murdering at the thrifts lately, dude.
I've been finding crazy shit.
Give us one thing.
Got a YSL tweed jacket not too long ago.
Damn.
It's unbelievable.
I'm telling you, this is crazy.
So I think your guy's misfortune, which it's very sad to hear.
He's not misfortune.
He's making money off of it.
True.
I got a, it's not thrift, but I got from Kohl's recently.
I had $20 Kohl's cash.
And they had an 85% off deal on top of the already sale priced items.
So this shirt I got for, okay, let me just say i got three shirts one is a
fifty dollar shirt and two thirty dollar shirts i paid three dollars and 24 cent bang dude after
20 for all three for all that's all total total after the cold cash and the sale prices you can't
be cold so i'm so interested in this rodeo i want to go back to it what is like your day-to-day
usually when you're like,
like you just go down to the airport and what happens?
Yeah.
So basically they post the delivery details.
One item, three items, however many,
which company is working for it.
Because you could do Southwest as well.
They also do deliveries.
And you press accept or decline.
You see the details, the pay, the distance, et cetera.
So it's like Uber.
If you want to swipe on the thing. thing you can accept you head there press arrive uh you go in say you're picking
up such and such etc and pretty much you may have to sign something you may not check off how much
does roadie take off the top i don't know exactly but i'm pretty sure they're getting something well
yeah they have to get something like i think i don't know what it is with uber i knew back in the day was probably 10 i don't
know but still like that it's probably has risen and stuff yeah but i'm just like man i'm just
thinking about it it's such a it's such an awesome idea because like so many people and it's just
delta doing it's no one else like you don't know this southwest does luggage deliveries because
getting your luggage back he's a bitch nightmare i've never had to deal with it thank god yeah
have you you've had to get your luggage back after you get like, bitch. Nightmare. I've never had to deal with it, thank God. I've never had to deal with it, yeah. Have you? You've had to get your luggage back
after you get home from the flight?
Once my luggage got stuck in Tennessee
and we were home.
And you had to come all the way
back to Philly to get it?
No, they end up delivering it to us.
How long did it take?
A couple days.
Oh, okay.
That's actually not bad.
Yeah.
And for you it's probably not.
Yeah.
I know a lot of times
over Christmas,
it can take two weeks
to get out of someone's luggage.
That's crazy.
But for you, there's not a big upfront cost.
All the stuff in your luggage, you probably got for $9 of Kohl's, and you're like, whatever, dude.
I'll just head back and hit the sales, dude.
And then Instacart.
Yeah.
Instacart.
I love Instacart.
I've been going for six years.
I was one of the first shoppers when they first started it up.
You still like it?
I love the service.
I don't love the pay.
Now it's a lot more work for a lot less pay.
That's what they do.
That's what Uber did.
Uber's like, come here, dude.
You can make like $75,000.
You're $100,000.
We're going to put the taxis out of business.
Postmates did it.
Caviar has done it.
It's happening with DoorDash.
It seems crazy.
Well, I'm sorry.
I'm hearing reports.
I'm seeing it on Twitter and everything.
They've surveyed a lot of DoorDashers and Instacarters.
And they're like, if the food looks good, about 60% of people will take a little piece of that.
Have you ever dipped in?
You give people Pac-Man pizzas?
No, no, no.
Are we sure about this?
I love my high ratings.
You ever put you ever put uh
slipped a little item in on someone's tab no like a pack of gum they told me i could but no i haven't
really oh that's nice that's a nice idea they will treat you to like hey you want something to drink
yeah yeah that's pretty sweet put it on there but um i what i have done is I've delivered items to the wrong house. I've done that, definitely.
It was a gated house.
It was a long drive, and I dropped their items off.
The person already started putting them in the refrigerator.
Then I realized it was the wrong person's groceries, and they had ice cream and stuff.
I had to sit on the porch, yeah.
Might have been my house, my friend.
I had the exact same situation happen.
Yeah, they were my groceries. I could have used those. Yeah, that the porch, yeah. Might have been my house, my friend. I had the exact same situation happen. Yeah, they were my groceries.
I could have used those.
Yeah, that's crazy, dude.
Now, you could do kind of the sickest double dip of all time.
If you found out that somebody lost their luggage,
you got a hold of their luggage, and you did their Instacart,
and you brought their groceries and their lost luggage to their house,
you might get hit, dude.
I hope they tip well.
I hope they tip well.
That's a tip.
That's all I'm saying.
You might get hit. Yeah. Man, dude. I hope they tip well. I hope they tip well. That's a dip. That's all I'm saying. You might get head.
Yeah.
Man, dude.
Have you always been like a gig economist?
No.
I've actually done many jobs.
I've worked at Ross.
What was your favorite job?
Favorite?
United States Postal Service.
Really?
Wow.
Rainsley's Snow or Hail, baby.
Yeah.
It was hard.
It was a challenge, but it's something that I loved on.
I love being outside.
I love no one breathing down my neck or telling me what to do.
Why'd you stop?
I got a traumatic injury on the job.
Dude, don't tell me a dog bite.
No, it wasn't that.
I witnessed someone get killed.
Oh, fuck.
Okay.
Were you in the hood?
Yeah.
Yeah, they'll do it to you.
It was 1220 p.m.
They didn't care.
1220 p.m.?
People walking around, everything.
Did USPS at least take care of you a little bit for the dramatic?
No.
No, they put me through the ringer.
I had to basically chase and fight for what I felt like I deserved.
And ultimately, it got to a point where I was like, you know what?
Screw it.
You guys aren't getting me out to safety because I didn't feel safe where I was.
It could have been you. That's unbelievable. They didn't get me to to safety because i didn't feel safe where i was
that's unbelievable to safety i had to fight for to get compensation i said you know what i just
throw my hands up damn wow so you just stopped fighting and just kind of went wow i don't blame
you man it sucks that you had to stop fighting promises that they weren't meeting basically and
i was getting my psychiatrist get them to say right i'll write this recommendation blah blah
blah blah i'm checking off the box okay I'll get this
and they just weren't
living up to what they say they would do
I'm guessing you were like around like Philadelphia
when you were doing mail stuff
yeah I was
well you get loaned out to
sister stations as they call them but my main
station was 19120
and 402 stations
that's so close to my zip code.
I'm not going to get my zip code out, but that's so close.
So you were in North Philly?
I was.
Yeah, 1911, baby.
Yeah, Northeast, yeah.
Damn, dude.
Wow.
That's awful that they wouldn't give you any kind of thing.
I mean, did they at least give you a couple days off after to just detox and process?
You know, when I called in frantic when this was going on,
they told me move down and keep the liver.
Oh, my God.
Rain, snow, sleet, hail, murder.
That's unbelievable.
They basically showed me they didn't care.
I was like, okay. And then I was sent
back on the same route the very next day.
Damn. The same view.
You got sent out that day.
You witnessed a murder, which is a traumatic,
horrific event. And the next day they said,
we'll see you in the same place. Same exact place.
I was walking up to the guys as this was going down.
Oh, you knew it was going down?
I didn't know what was happening.
I was on the phone, you know, mail me and talk on the phone.
My phone hung up.
In the nick of time, I pulled my phone out to see what's going on.
Why did my phone call drop?
Walking blindly because I'm looking down at my phone.
I'm walking up to the guys.
I say they were, what, where's the guy going in the door they were that close and i was right here no drive-by it's
just regular shooting i was just standing on the corner right facing one another and you are you
back and back and running away like what i mean you don't have to relive any of this one motion
look up from my phone seen it happening turned around ran around the corner hid in a tall grass
where abandoned building used to be. That's actually impressive because...
Old man, follow me around.
Elderly man, gentleman, follow me.
Hid in the same grass.
That's impressive because I think a lot of people think they would do that.
But I think if I was in that situation, I would have just been in such shock that I would have just sat there and been like, holy shit.
Dude, I'm so sorry.
Yeah, that's awful.
We got to deal with that.
People on the street were laughing.
They were laughing that we ran and hid.
They were laughing that you ran?
Laughed that we ran and hid.
That's just sad.
That's entertainment for them.
That's like a sad societal thing
that's so above this pay grade.
But it's like, damn, that sucks.
Well, that was your favorite job.
I can't imagine what your worst job was.
Ross. Wait, did we start? Did we start why that's your favorite job. I can't imagine what your worst job was. Ross.
I'm not saving the company.
Did we start why that's your favorite job?
We didn't start why that was your favorite job.
Yeah, he asked what my favorite job was.
Oh, well, can you give us maybe, I mean, first of all, again, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
That's horrific.
What was the good parts of just being outside and experiencing everything?
Being outside, the freedom, delivering mail.
Makes people excited. Dude, you throw some headphones some headphones in then you go to the grocery store like you probably get that
with instacart autopilot you just put mail in the mailboxes and moving on how were the dogs um
they were okay it was more so the cats believe it or not no they try to swipe you through the
mail slot and it's supposed to be uh animal warning cards yeah in your mail but
there weren't wow you were missing a lot of things functional vehicles park points animal warning
cards a bunch of things you just sent out and say here take the mail go deliver sure so you were
asking about yeah yeah that was his favorite job so yeah what was i mean kyle what was your ross
was your least favorite yeah why why do you hate hate Ross? Long hours. Yeah, a lot of work.
Pace sucked.
Fill up a cart.
Nobody shot anyone.
Two items and then leave.
Right.
Wow.
It wasn't the company.
It was the experience.
Sure.
So how long did you work for USPS versus Ross?
USPS, one year.
Ross, 11 months.
Okay.
So you were on USPS for one year?
One year.
And you saw that within one year?
One year.
You think that's like somebody who's been there for like 25 30 years will catch something insane yeah yeah so
it was wow it wasn't pleasant what's something about the male that like the normal average joe
wouldn't know it's very dirty a lot of hands touch it it sits in a lot of places and your hands are
black after handling it no way yeah damn are. Were you apprehensive before you walked out there
where you're kind of like,
fuck, I don't really want to do this,
but I have to type thing?
See, that time,
I think it was like my first time on that route in specific.
So I really didn't know what I was going into.
That was your first time on the route too?
Yeah.
I was, you get, all right,
my title was city carrier assistant.
I wasn't a regular.
You got no regulars through the same route every single day.
How long does it take to get to become a regular?
Oh, you could be there for a short time. You could be there for many years. It's no telling.
It's kind of like a lottery.
Yeah. So because I was here, there, and everywhere, I could be going out to a sister station or I could just be doing a different route every day.
Unless I put a hold down on one route, I would do that route over and over and over and over.
That's if it doesn't happen regularly.
Now, the people that you said
that have got their established routes
that they're on every day,
did you hear any wild stories
trying to prepare you for what you might see?
Anything they told you?
Like, look, this is how it goes.
This is what it looks like.
Not wild stories,
but some things that were countering what we were taught in safety.
They were basically saying, telling you to tell the supervisors, you're not doing this
or you're not doing that because they have the ability to.
They're regulars.
They're grandfathered in the system.
They don't have any worries.
But I'm like, oh, that's my supervisor.
I got to listen to him.
And some things the supervisors were telling were not what we
should be doing. Like, you gotta jump
these fences. You gotta run. You gotta
fill your bag. The things that we were told not
to do at safety training, basically
the supervisor was telling us to do.
What were they telling you if a dog would come after you?
Pet it?
They want us to rely on the bag.
Block.
Put the bag between you and the dog, and hopefully the spray will fend it off.
Oh, you guys had spray?
Yeah, dog spray.
Did it work?
I never used it, but I heard it.
I've never heard of dog spray.
Did you think about deploying it that day?
Or are you just like, I'm getting out of here.
I'm not even going to bother.
What the fucking?
Well, I just didn't know.
That would be the only thing I would think of.
I know I have one thing to defend myself. I'm going to bother. What? What the fucking? Well, I just didn't know. That would be the only thing I would think of. I was like, I know I have one thing to defend myself.
I'm going to hit it and just.
You think my man was bringing dog spray to a gunfight.
Right.
Basically.
Perhaps.
Perhaps, dude.
I'm sorry to laugh, but I think laughing is the best medicine.
Yeah.
I agree.
Sure.
Well, thank God you're still around.
Yeah, man.
I mean, thank God everything worked out.
And you're, I mean.
And you got a cool ass fucking crotch rocket.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's electric.
That's boogie woogie.
Boogie woogie.
I thought the same thing. Dude, we are on a fucking wavelength right now. And you got a cool-ass fucking crotch rocket. Yeah, it's electric. That's boogie-woogie. Boogie-oogie. I thought the same thing.
Dude, we are on a fucking wavelength right now.
I like this shit.
Awesome, man.
Well, hey, thank you for coming by.
No problem.
We really appreciate you.
Can we make one final request?
Sure.
Would you mind riding it in front of the camera, just like a quick skirt buy?
Look at that.
Woo!
Thank you, dude.
Thank you, brother.
Yeah, you too, brother.
I love that guy. I love that guy.
I love that guy.
He's the man.
Such a good perspective on life, that guy.
That's a new angle.
I kind of like that.
Sir, what do you think about the eclipse?
We got cameras here.
You can just check them out later on.
I think it's wonderful.
It brings humanity together.
There's a sea of humanity.
There are fools out there who see this as a negative sign from God.
Their head is in the middle of the Middle Ages.
Why do you say that?
Who are you hearing that says it's negative?
An eclipse has nothing to do with any of us.
It's something we can appreciate.
It's something that is beyond our power.
Not beyond our knowledge, but it's beyond our power.
Mathematicians can chart it.
All it has to do with is the relationship between three bodies,
the Earth, the sun, and the moon, and that's it.
And it couldn't give a damn about any of us.
We're here to appreciate it, and it's the wonder of the universe, really.
To be fair, if I was shitting in a hole back in the 1200s
and the sun just disappeared, I would think the world's ended.
I would think the world would be done.
You have no choice.
So anyone who says that nowadays, there's a certain politician whom I won't name, a female politician who said,
Wow, that's a complete liar.
Friday's earthquake, that was a major non-event.
Friday's earthquake.
Well, you've never been impressed by 4.8 before?
And today's eclipse is our punishment
for our sinful ways.
Yeah, that's what they say. That's what they're saying,
which is like ridiculous to me. That's what they're saying. I can agree
with that. Welcome to America.
This is what happens. I think it's beautiful.
And I love these glasses.
If you put them on
normally, you're
blind. And if you look at the eclipse without them, you'll become blind.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got a pair.
All right, yeah.
We're going to hit the max.
I'm a science teacher.
We're going to hit the max sometime between 323 and 324.
Yeah.
Okay.
So the current time is 3.06. So we were about 17,
between 17
and 18 minutes to 90%.
Perfect. My sister lives in
Burlington, Vermont.
Is she on the path?
She's got the full Monty,
as they say.
We watch
dogs. We're watching the
dog of somebody who went to Rochester.
Got it.
So there's a northerly and easterly trajectory from Texas.
So it's going to go by Rochester, New York.
It does feel darker.
It feels like it's getting darker.
Certainly darker, yeah.
It feels like there's going to be a rainstorm coming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not ideal time, but yeah.
That one was God.
That was God. I'm a substitute teacher. That's why I'm all fancied up. Yeah. Yeah. That's beyond my control, too. Not ideal time, but yeah. That one was God. That was God horse and a rat.
I'm a substitute teacher.
That's why I'm all fancied up.
Yeah.
I was doing music and mastermind.
Great school.
Is that tweed?
Pardon me?
The suit?
Is that tweed?
No, today.
No, no, the suit.
The suit.
Is that tweed?
Oh, yeah.
This is camel hair.
Camel hair.
Camel hair.
Wow, that's nice.
Yeah.
That was bad. I don't think I've seen camel hair. Camel hair? Camel hair. Wow, that's nice. Yeah. That was bad.
I think I've seen camel hair suit before.
You've had a camel hair suit?
No, I've never seen it in person.
Oh, it's worthy of puking.
But anyway, here's your trivia question.
What is the only major hit about the eclipse that anyone ever made?
I'm sorry, what's the major?
What?
There's one major hit. Song. It was by a big in the UK. Oh, Total, what's the major? What? There's one major hit.
Song.
It was by a, it was big in the UK.
Oh, Total Eclipse of the Heart.
What?
Total Eclipse of the Heart.
Of course.
I was singing it.
I was singing it.
What's he win?
Bonnie Tyler.
What's he win?
She's a Welsh singer.
Came out in 82, and that was her major hit.
It was really good.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's also called Turn Around.
That's the only...
So they were playing that
at Nassau when I got there.
But...
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
Turn around.
I wish I knew the words.
Yeah, me too.
There's a...
Total Eclipse of the Heart, which was actually intended for vampires.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
The original intent of the song was to be like a vampire love song.
Really?
Because the heart goes dark and everything.
It's not cheesy.
It's garlicky.
It's a great song.
That was real 80s.
That was disco.
Yeah, a lot of times I get angry, though.
Disco 80s, Bonnie Tyler.
Those are a major hit. Well, look, as a I get angry. That was like disco 80s, Bonnie Tyler. Those are major hits.
Well, look, as a science teacher, if you can give us one major thing.
I know you talked about everything going with the eclipse.
One major thing we should think about while the eclipse is happening.
An important thing that you think or you think that a scientific community should know.
The one thing that we should know is that there's something a lot bigger than we are.
And there are heavenly matters that have nothing to do with us. know is that there's something a lot bigger than we are and they're they're uh jeff baseman matters
are have nothing to do with us they uh they're out of our control got it some people say they
influence us maybe do we influence them absolutely not okay einstein said it best. He said God created the universe, his notion of God, which was the universe.
But as far as human affairs, he doesn't really care much about that.
Why does every science teacher have such good flow?
Such what?
Good flow.
You have beautiful hair.
Because to me, science and religion are the same thing.
I don't distinguish between science and religion.
Science is all religion aims for ultimate knowledge.
Do you think that...
The difference is religion is based on ultimate knowledge based on faith.
Science is based on ultimate knowledge based on evidence.
And I have faith in the real world which is explained and breaking
broken down and explained through science got it like it's we still
haven't there's a lot to be discovered yet right yeah religion is a concept
religion I'm sorry is a concept it's a concept religion is a concept. You were saying? It's a concept. Religion is a concept, you say. It's a concept that is broken down and explained through science.
Right.
Why is this happening?
Why is that happening?
What is what happen?
Whatever is happening.
He's asking why do they take science and religions are based on some kind of other explanation for science
or it's conducive with science and they're not necessarily opposed to one another.
No, not at at all especially Eastern religion
Eastern religion there's a famous book called the Tao of physics yeah based on
the teachings of Lao Tzu the father of Tao Tao yeah yeah I mean yeah we have
yin and yang on the attack we have like that in the free library everything in
top read up would that be in the free library? Everything in opposition.
Read up.
Would that be in the free library?
Would that be what?
Would that yin-yang book be in the free library?
Oh, absolutely.
Okay.
All right, I'm going to have to check that one out after this.
Okay.
Or you can look it up.
Just look at Lao Tzu, L-A-O.
Just Wikipedia?
T-S-E.
But I believe then, I mean, there's something mystical about it.
The art of war.
Yeah, I like that guy.
It's about relativity, the Big Bang.
I mean, it's like, and there's more that we don't know than we do.
I'm an agnostic, but I'm a mystical agnostic.
Describe that.
I don't know.
Well, because facing things on science, I have to say, I don't know.
To be an atheist would be as much—an atheist is every bit as much a true believer as a religious fanatic
because both are convinced of something.
The atheist says there is no God, but you can't deny God if you don't define it.
And to define God is to establish it.
That was great.
Yeah.
So I'm smart enough to know that I'm not smart enough to know anything about that.
That's great.
That's pretty fair.
Pretty reasonable.
Yeah.
I wish you taught me science.
Yeah.
Well, I'm retired.
I was at Germantown High School most of my career.
I'm a retired teacher.
But my wife doesn't want to put up with me 24-7.
I hear you.
She likes to farm me out.
Yeah.
Not a bad move.
Not a bad move.
So today it was match.
Tomorrow it'll be at Central.
Great schools.
Finding podcasts to come on, yeah.
Yeah, and you found a podcast to come on to.
Yeah, I mean, the job came in for Central.
I don't even know what it is.
Nice.
You nab it, and then you find out what you got.
Did you go to WrestleMania?
Do I go?
No.
He did.
Oh, my God.
Are you in WrestleMania?
Yeah.
Oh.
I acknowledge the tribal chief.
Do you acknowledge the tribal chief?
Pardon me?
Do you acknowledge the tribal chief?
Do I acknowledge what?
The tribal chief?
No.
Okay.
No, I'm not, to be honest.
He's a Cody Crybaby. He's a Cody Crybaby.
He's a Cody Crybaby.
Everyone do his or her own taste.
I've never been into, I'm into the Phillies pretty much.
I like baseball.
Yeah.
The Phillies, and they're breaking my heart, so I stop paying attention to them.
It's early.
It's early.
It's early.
You never know.
Can we get a prediction for the year?
I like boxing, baseball.
Yeah, they're my sports.
Can we get a scientific prediction on what the Phillies
are going to do? On what the Phillies are going to do?
Yeah.
I think they're going to
catch fire
sometime in
May. Okay.
I like it.
Yeah.
They have the right stuff and the wrong stuff.
I mean, in the Grapefruit League, the Phillies won.
They scored 10 runs in one inning.
Yeah.
But then after the season began, who was it?
Oh, Atlanta scored seven runs in the eighth inning to kill them. Yeah. Again, who was it? They lost.
Oh, Atlanta scored seven runs in the eighth inning to kill them.
Yeah.
So it's a wacky world.
Very psychological.
Unexplainable.
I mean, it's all about psychology.
That's why you need God.
That's what he's here for.
Basically, one team becomes the other team's bitch.
I mean, let's be honest.
Speak.
It's a psychological thing.
Yeah.
Maybe that happens in WrestleMania, though.
Isn't that scripted?
Yes.
It is scripted.
But do you enjoy it? It's absolutely scripted.
You enjoy the...
I mean, you know...
It's acrobatics.
It's a show.
It's an acrobatic show.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
The fucking clouds are killing us right now.
Wait.
Where's my phone?
I think that was the cloud or the moon.
I got to chuck the phone.
How are we doing?
You're good.
Yeah, you can leave whenever you want.
Yeah, you don't have to hold you up.
You don't have to stay here.
Okay, the full Monty will be in.
Thank you so much.
It was a pleasure.
Enjoy the flight back.
Enjoy the flight back.
Thank you.
Thanks for hanging out.
Have fun.
This should be happening between 9 and 10 minutes from now.
Okay.
Perfect.
What station do you work for?
YouTube.
You work for YouTube?
Yeah, our overlords.
I'm on YouTube.
Do you want to look at me up?
Yeah, what's your name?
Here it is.
No, we're recording this.
It's Alex Zane.
You can look it up on your iPhone.
Alex Zane?
Spelling game.
I'll write it down for you.
No, no, no.
It's on the camera.
Oh, it's on the camera.
It's Alex Zane, spelling game. Got it. USA, I'm a good speller. Oh, yeah? So, yeah. on the camera. Oh, it's on the camera. It's Alex Zane, spelling game.
Got it.
USA, I'm a good speller.
Oh, yeah?
So, yeah.
Spell Skookle.
So, I know spoilers, but that was in 07.
He's got a great one for you.
Spell Skookle.
Skookle.
Skookle.
Capital S-C-H-U-Y-L-K-I-double-L.
I'll take your word for it.
Not bad.
I'm not mad at that.
Skookle.
Spell
tomorrow.
T-O-M-O-R-R-O-W.
And you got that today.
This guy's
nice, dude.
Keep it coming. I love it.
I was a total loser when I was a kid.
But when it came to
the only time I was ever popular was
I couldn't play baseball or anything. I was a total nerd. But when it was time the only time I was ever popular was I couldn't play baseball or anything.
I was a total nerd.
But when it was time for a spelling bee, man, everyone loved it.
You're a rock star, yeah.
The ladies love a good speller.
It is true.
Yeah, you're a good speller, but I take you in the post.
Actually, the only lady who loved me was my mother, and I have my doubts about that.
But at the time, any more spelling words uh chief chief c-h-i-e-f why is
that i before e except after c why does it not apply there well it's here here's the rule is i
before a except after c uh except for weird which is weird weird. Yeah. There's exceptions.
I before E, except after C.
R-E-C-E-I-V-E, D-E-C-E-I-V-E, C-H-I-E-F, S-H-I-E-L-D.
Yeah.
But weird is weird.
All right, we've got one last one for you, ready?
W-E-I-R-D. But that's weird, of course.
We're going to give you one more.
Fergalicious.
What's that? Fergalicious.
Fergalicious?
Fergalicious.
About Fergie of the group.
You thought you were going to get him.
Fergalicious would be
F-E-R-G-A-L-I-C-I-O-U-S.
The guy's the rain man in spelling.
He's too good.
He's a black-eyed peace fan.
He's a science teacher.
He's a torrential.
It's unbelievable.
You're a triple threat.
And are you ready for supercalifragilisticexpialidocious?
You know what?
If you do it.
S-U-P-E-R-C-A-L-I-F-R-A-G-I-L-I-S-T-I-C-E-X-P-I-A-L-O-D-O-C-I-O-U-S.
Wow.
And if you read it backwards, it's Swoicilligar.
Wait.
Oh, wait.
Yes.
Sitsilligarf.
Swoicadalapsi.
I lack repus.
Okay.
There we go.
That's supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
If you were born in the 1200s when these eclipses were happening,
people would think you're a witch.
What again?
You'd be burned at the stake if this was the 1200s.
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
Right.
Well, last night I burned a stake.
Wow.
That's why my wife threw me out of the house.
There he is.
Thank you, brother.
You guys are the best.
Thanks for hanging out.
You're a lot of fun.
Appreciate it.