Men At Work Podcast - Poll Workers Spill Everything About Election Day, Voter Fraud, & More!

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

Kyle and Matt interview two poll workers who spill all of their stories from over 20+ years of Election Day experiences. The blow ups, the chaos, and their 2020 election experience. From crazy technol...ogy changes to how easy is it to commit voter fraud if you want to know what it's like on any given Election Day tune into this podcast. <br><br>About Us: The Men At Work Podcast asks one question: What do you do for a living? After that the conversation flows from there. We've talked to substitute teachers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and the Governor of Literal Pennsylvania. And we'll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a furry convention, and more! Whether we like it or not, our jobs are most of our lives - might as well yap about it. If you want us to come to your event email us at: menatpodcast@gmail.com <br><br>Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/leg_0uCixTE <br><br>0:00 - Intro <br><br>1:30 - What does a Poll Worker do? <br><br>7:55 - Why did Susan and Anna want to become poll workers? <br><br>8:40 - What do Poll Workers get paid?<br><br>9:57 - How have elections changed over two decades they’ve done it? <br><br>11:05 - Are popular elections better or worse? <br><br>17:25 - What you can and can’t wear to the polls... <br><br>19:25 - What misinformation do voters believe? <br><br>20:15 - Ever been victims of political party warfare? <br><br>22:20 - Is Voter Fraud easy to stop? <br><br>23:55 - Should voter ID requirements be stricter?<br><br>26:47 - The psychological effects of being a poll worker... <br><br>29:04 - Why states have a hard time finding young Poll Workers... <br><br>32:42 - Can you Vote Drunk? <br><br>34:29 - The 2020 Election experience <br><br>37:10 - How young people are voting <br><br>38:54 - Common mistakes voters make <br><br>42:31 - Changes Poll Workers would make to Election Day <br><br>47:17 - Behind the scenes of a poll worker... <br><br>53:33 - How long do you have to live in a state to vote? <br><br>55:11 - Unusual questions poll workers are asked… <br><br> 59:45 - Do Poll Workers get proper recognition? <br><br>If you want more bonus content check out Office Hours a weekly workplace advice show on Patreon that subscribers submit their questions to and we answer them: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod <br><br>*If you subscribe to the Patreon consider subscribing on a desktop or website or an android device, NOT THROUGH iOS (Apple) APP. Apple takes 30% of every month you're subscribed (yea they suck). <br><br>Follow Us: <br><br>The Pod: <br><br>https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast <br><br>https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ <br><br>Follow Matt: <br><br>https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy <br><br>https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ <br><br>Follow Kyle: <br><br>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ <br><br>TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb <br><br>Follow Vito: <br><br>https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to another episode of Men at Work. I'm Kyle Pagan, as always, joined by Matt Peoples. In the Men Aware podcast, we discover what real people do for a living. That's exactly right, dude. Today's Election Day, and people around the country will be casting their votes for mandamis and municipal leaders for Curtis Sliwas and controllers and for gubernatorial elections and gropers from Queens. He's Italian, folks.
Starting point is 00:00:26 He's not a perfect. He's Italian. Well, that's a spicy allegation. But today we're not talking about the people in front of the camera. We're talking about the people behind it. And not the ones who move the money and not the ones who pay the mistresses, but the ones who handle the I-voted stickers. Or if you're Spanish, you'll vote hey.
Starting point is 00:00:41 We're talking about the people who deal with your aunt's Facebook conspiracies and a little osteoporosis flare up during the day. The people who keep this country rolling on Election Day, we're talking to two poll workers. We do we ever. Damn poll election ladies. They don't sit here. before we get started uh we do have our patreon guys please hop on the patreon every wednesday we're doing
Starting point is 00:01:06 what's called office hours you can jump in there it's a live chat we do a live stream you can talk about your boss your crazy work situation your work wife it's a one dollar tier that we're doing up to the first 50 patrons so hop on there come hang out with us it's a blast we love you kyle start the episode all right we're here with two election poll workers in philadelphia Susan and Anna, thank you both for coming. You're welcome. We really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Yeah, that's all right. We'll get this done. We'll get this done. I think what people really want to know is what is a poll worker's job on election day? To make sure that election day is run morally and ethically and right. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:56 So that's... It's done politically right. Gotcha. No matter what. what your party is. So that's the correct and the stock answer. Obviously that's like
Starting point is 00:02:03 the overarching thing to what you're doing. Yes. We want the nitty gritty. We're very curious about why you guys are running around like chickens with your heads cut off doing this and that.
Starting point is 00:02:11 What does that look like? So you're obviously like you're maintaining the integrity of the election. So what does that look like? So is that just keeping track of the ballots? You keep a track of who's walking in,
Starting point is 00:02:19 checking IDs? Like what's a brief overview of that? Yes, we don't check IDs unless the thing tells us to. We're not allowed to. But yeah, It's making sure that everybody's doing what they're supposed to do. They're not coming in with, you know, telling people who to vote for or doing anything fraudulent, running here, there, and everywhere, helping everybody that needs help.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Sure. You keep the lines organized, keeping them straight, single file? A lot of parking. Yeah. Yeah, like we come in in the morning. So the polls open at 7. We get there about 6.15, 6.30, right? And it takes us half an hour to set up.
Starting point is 00:02:54 We have to open up all the machines. We have the iPads now. We've finally moved on to that from the big book. that they used to have to sign. Oh, they're not to do the big book anymore. No. I guess I haven't voted since. Yeah, you see that.
Starting point is 00:03:06 You're really selling yourself out of you. I got to go the last couple of years. And it actually makes it easier with the iPad because sometimes you get people who aren't in the right polling place. So the iPad, you can look in there, you know, before we used to have to go on our phones, you know, and, you know, look it up.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And now you just put it in, they tell you exactly where they're at and where they're supposed to be. So every time somebody comes in, they give you their name, you have to look it up, you have to have them sign, and then we put the ballot in a machine
Starting point is 00:03:30 and it kind of stamps it and then they go in the poll into vote. They put it in the machine and then they make all their selections and then hit vote and then... And then you can tallys it up? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Some states, you sign in, you go into the poll and then the poll prints out a piece of paper and then you take the paper over to like a scanner and you scan it in. I don't know where that was from. That's what he had jersey with. The exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:03:54 It was like a scan tron. It's like a piece of paper it's kind of like long and it goes into the machine it comes out you can look at it and it goes into the machine and it counts your vote okay is it kind of crazy that we don't have a federal election system in all 50 states yes okay yeah we can all agree on that absolutely i mean the fact that we have iPads now that we moved on from paper i mean you know like maybe we now are you pro paper you pro tech um right now in pro tech because it's worked when it starts not working that's when i become pro paper.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But say the Wi-Fi is not working, say there's a battery issue, can we move to paper and then blink of the eyes? Absolutely. We have them. Yes. It's a backup plan. Yeah. I think that we are better here than in some states where they stand at like a desk with
Starting point is 00:04:45 things around them and they're filling it out on paper still. That's like our mail invalid. Yeah. I think that we're better than that at this point. Wow, I'm feeling some personal New Jersey attacks here. That's exactly what I did yesterday. I didn't realize. I thought jerseys was high tech. No, Jersey's not high tech. Sorry. I could tell Yeah, there was like four mistakes made in the five minutes span that I was there.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I walked in. They said, you know, don't worry about your ID. Just give us your first name. And when they put the name in, I don't know if you guys do the same thing. It's the first three letters of the first name and the first three letters of the last name. So no ID. At this point, they don't even know my full last or first name. I get a ballot.
Starting point is 00:05:19 They give you the receipt. You sign the receipt, which I don't know what that does. And then you walk over towards the enclosed section that you like scribble in the people you're voting for. And then you're supposed to go to the people that scan the actual, like, it's like a scantron, I'm like an old, like, middle school thing. It's unbelievable. I walked 18 paces within like a, you know, four-foot pace. I walked 22,000 steps.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Who is it? It takes an hour to vote. Basically, it seems like Philadelphia's provisional ballots. Yes. Are paper ballots if you don't or you got a mail-in ballot or something and you have to vote on paper? That sounds like what you're talking about. That's what it seemed like. And it didn't, but it just seemed very, like when I was finished voting, I was supposed to bring
Starting point is 00:06:00 like the copy of the receipt that I had signed. to give to somebody, and then they could scan my thing. However, she scanned it. Then she goes, oh, I was supposed to take that receipt. And I was like, is this fine? And she was like, get out of here, you scoundrel. And I was like, this seems way below the books. We ask for date of birth.
Starting point is 00:06:13 We make sure that your address is still correct. Yeah. I mean, I am a judge in Pennypack, and Pennypack's a private community. So basically, I know most of our voters anyway. Sure. And I've worked there for 18 years, twice a year. So the same people keep coming in a year.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So this seems, okay, got it. It seems a little, I should have known because it was in the back of a McDonald's parking lot, and they said to meet there at like 2 p.m. I should have known that by the time they invited me there. That should have tipped me off initially. So you guys are the Northeast. I got to think like VFWs, high schools, where are we doing it out of? We do ours in our community building.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Community building. I think I'm going to be in the... No city buildings. Am I correct on that? Is that correct? We do have Nick off to the side to make sure that you guys don't say anything nefarious or wrong or... Like we're mostly, like, the public schools are off tomorrow. Off tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:06:59 We do a lot of voting. a lot of public schools. So I'm in Pollock and I think we have, that's the most decisions in the city. I know. I think it's like nine-ish or somewhere around. I'm in Pennypack. We usually have three. We have six right now because our public school, elementary school, got knocked down.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So we have their three divisions. You guys have to worry about? And how many people is that typically do you know? I have 700 in one division. I have six something in each of the other ones. So it's, you know, about 4,200 people. 4,500 people. Yeah, we run into a problem like because the one.
Starting point is 00:07:30 schools like where I'm at Pollock we had nine divisions there so last election it was being refurbished so they had to be relocated all over the city and then everybody gets confused. I'm sure people love that especially the North East people who don't want anything to change ever. They love that. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:07:46 they did not take it out on you guys. Oh no. No, never. Never have I been called names. Why did you guys want to become? Why did you want to become poll workers because that seems like the craziest thing in the world? I didn't. Okay. I got asked to do it one time And somehow I'm still here 20 years later.
Starting point is 00:08:03 So you've got to kind of like it a little bit. No. So you were undemocratically made to be a part of democracy. It sounds like somebody forced you in there. Okay, yeah. Like I, because I said yes, and now because I continue to do it, I ethically morally think I should continue to do it. So I keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I hear you. And keep taking on more jobs. Well, that's where you're crazy. That's where I'm crazy. She's great because my husband's the ward leader. so that's why I'm working. I'm using charged. But she will do anything for him.
Starting point is 00:08:33 She does everything. She does the most for the ward. I do the most. Yeah, I do. Anything he says. She does. One thing I found out, poll workers get paid for a lesson day.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That answer is a little telling. I've seen 300. I've seen. Oh, not in Pennsylvania. Not in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Not in Philadelphia. It's very telling there. Okay. 200. If you do the training, it's 225 or 250. No. No? No?
Starting point is 00:08:59 No. No? No. 250 I think we're up to now 245 judges get okay judges get 245 and that's for how many hours five dollars more how many hours typically you work in a poll I go at 6 a.m. and I'm out of there at 8.30 9 o'clock jeez Christ sorry I'm like 615 and then eight it's like you know and we just got a raise so we were at 100 for the longest time I think I said I think I saw somewhere that Philadelphia found a couple billion dollars a surplus so maybe they can get some over to the
Starting point is 00:09:28 election judges and stuff. Well, could you try to help us do that. Yeah, I know. Yeah, 100%. Maybe that could be your next podcast. 100%. We'll get the mayor on next. Get the mayor.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Get the mayor. Let's go. Like, hey, I know we have a lot of issues in this world, but the poll workers. We need to pay the poll workers. The peons. Yeah. The peons. Well, there's district council 33, the trash workers that would, that would fight you on that one.
Starting point is 00:09:52 That's a story for another day. I saw that strike. Oh, yeah. What are some things that you guys are veterans? What are some things that have changed since you started in polling? Obviously, technology. Well, yeah, the paper moved from paper to... Paper to electric was a biggie.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah, that's a biggie. Yeah. When was that around electric that it came out? 2019. 2019, it was post-pandemic. Wow, that recent... Okay. Yeah, it was pre-pandemic, but we got the poll books post-pandemic.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Okay. And that became the iPad, right? Yeah, we got the iPads. We just got them two years ago, correct? Is that it? Yeah. Two years, two years ago we got that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:31 How's the turnout changed since you guys have, uh, well, I mean, it's, it varies. It depends. Really, it does depend on the type of election, but just overall, like I think we're getting less because I think mail-in ballots are more a thing now. Yeah. And that became a lot during COVID. They started, you know, doing a lot of the mail-in ballots. But it really does, like you said, depend on the election.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Like presidential, that'd be a huge turnout. The last election, whether there was, I mean, in May, I think we had 10%. percent I think I had 12 percent total in any of my divisions yeah one one division I had like six percent yeah now I know tomorrow is the big one I think that everyone's looking at is the DA yes I think there's a judge one that people are talking about but that's more just a retention retention um now you to personally is that music to your ears because you don't have to deal with with more people or do you still find yourselves it's it's a long day the busier you are the faster the day
Starting point is 00:11:28 Like the one year, I think it was 2020 we got there. The lines were out that there was the presidential election. Yeah, 2020, right? And it was out the door November. And it never stopped. I had like 690, let's say, 95 registered voters. I mean, I probably got over like 500. I had the turnout was insane.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I had like 90 some percent of my voters turned out. That's what we had. I had a line all day long. And you prefer that? I prefer that. Yes. Absolutely. It'll go fast.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So tomorrow you might be slogging a little bit. You might have to like, what does some poll workers do? You got Sudoku? Do you got carcord puzzles? Like, are you guys allowed to, like, kind of have some off time? A couple beers, if only, if only. We sit there. Take note of that.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Alcohol would make it much better. Yeah. A bottle of wine per worker? Sounds good to be it. I think that's totally fair. Vock in the water bottle? Every 50 votes. Every 50 votes get one set.
Starting point is 00:12:18 The one day, he does. Ed Nielsen, every election day brings us soft pretzels. So he's, so he's allowed to do that. You guys are not allowed to, are you guys allowed to provide water to? people um no so we don't normally we don't normal i know georgia has as like a stickler for that one no we don't normally we don't give it out of anything to our voters got it they like to dehydrate people in georgia yeah yeah apparently georgia they had them like sitting down in the sun and like there's these like oh people that were just like hey can we give them water and they're like you're
Starting point is 00:12:46 going to get arrested if you're a poll worker apparently oh i would see what's all curb your enthusiasm episode too with larry yeah i think it's the other poll workers in georgia they get a lot of water at the throat of them. So I think that's more of there. I would, um, I would give them water if they needed it. I really would. Yeah, we would. Sometimes they sit down like the older people. Yeah, I did chairs for them. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think about the attitude of people? Has that changed that you guys have? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been threatened a lot. Yeah. Yes. More recently. Yes. So how do you mean they're coming, I guess, like, during the voting process, like before they even start voting, they're kind of on edge or it's while it's happening? Like,
Starting point is 00:13:22 what does it look like? They come in like that. They come in like that. Yeah. They come in. They come in, they assume that they know what party I am, which I don't talk about. Yeah, that's crazy. They assume that. And then, you know, then they're talking amongst themselves. And I say to them, you have to take that 10 feet outside of the polling place. So you're more than welcome to talk about who you want to vote for. But please take it outside and go 10 feet.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And then I get caught. So you can't talk about who you're going to vote for 10 feet within a... No, it's not inside the polling place. 10 feet away from the polling doors. Could you do like a walkie-talkie situation? Could somebody outside of the place walkie-talkie in and say, we love... I've had people, I've had people on their phones. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:02 On speaker phones? Yeah. And I tap them on the shoulder and say, you are not allowed to have somebody tell you who to vote for. Okay. I have a guess. People on speaker phones that are being told who to vote for as kind of a subliminal message to I feel like other voters on telling them to try to convince them who to vote for? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah. It's, and then you get called names because you say something. Yeah, because you're trying to follow the rules. Because no matter what party I am or no matter what party you are, I'm going to follow the same rule. Sure, sure, sure. I'm good. I, that's just me. That's me as a judge.
Starting point is 00:14:39 That's the way I do it. I'm ethical. I can't compromise any election integrity. I don't. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure some do. Maybe not, I don't know, in other states or in the city or wherever, but I doubt it. But I don't.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Has anyone come to you guys and been like, listen, I don't know who the hell I'm voting for, but I know it's a privilege and a right to do it. No. Can you tell me? No, no, we're not allowed. I know you're not allowed, but has anyone ever come up to you guys? I take them to the pink paper and I say this is what it looks like inside. This is how you do it.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Can you come in with me? No, I'm a judge of elections. I cannot come in with you. I can have anybody else come in with you. You can fill out a form for them to go in and help you. They don't want to fill out the form. Well, then come back to the pink paper and I'll show you exactly how to do it.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You can pick who you want. It's just a touch of a screen. If you pick the wrong person, untouch it. That's it's pretty easy. It's pretty easy. Yeah. And they're more willing to let me do that. But some of the older people
Starting point is 00:15:42 because, you know, just think that I should go in and help them. Right. Or, you know, we should go in and tell them what to do. Now I'm not going to tell you what to do. Has that rule changed over time? Were you able to do that before? No.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Judge of elections never been allowed inside of it. But they obviously don't know you're a judge of a legend. They think you're a poll worker like some other people. Yeah, I mean, they don't know your title. They don't know your title that you work the polls. And every time they come every six months, they've seen you for the past. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah. It's the same people they come in. Oh, there's my table. I know her from me. I guess it does have to help, though, that you guys have been in the same district or. Yeah. For, I mean, it does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It's like, Susie. Yeah. Shut the hell up and just go in there and vote. I've had that. Yeah. I've had that. I mean, some of them too, like the older ones, don't bring their family with them. They're coming from the husband, you know, if they're the elderly and the husband, don't you?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Gosh. Like, I think we have one blind. Well, I have one blind, too. Yeah. And, you know, somebody can help them or. Do they do braille or now? No, he doesn't. He, his person that walks with him goes in the machine with him and they sign the paper.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So, I don't know. Funny story, I guess. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, fun. Yeah. Matt. that our blind voter
Starting point is 00:16:54 as his walkers walking him in and talking to us walked him into the pole into a poll and every time he comes to election day now that's what he says Sue tell me that the poll's not in front of me I'm like if the pole's not in front of you
Starting point is 00:17:11 there's too many polls in one day getting hit by a pole or out of poll he laughs about it so we can but it was it yeah at first it was like oh but he started laughing right away like sure yeah i can imagine i can imagine it's full of a lot of stuff going so going back to i mean the fact that people can't wear something that's like openly supportive of a candidate it sounds like you guys have had instances where you've had to kind of reprimand that do you ever get the fight back do you get somebody who's i've had to call the d a i've had to call the cops
Starting point is 00:17:40 come in doing that are normally like argumentative argumentative to begin with yeah on Facebook too much yeah watching too many a lot of Facebook AI videos
Starting point is 00:17:51 yes yes yes yes well it sounds like why grandma I'm walking in there that sounds very yeah yeah sorry she's walking in though with like a vote for Ross Perot kind of shirt and I'm like great on you missed the vote yeah don't even worry about that yeah
Starting point is 00:18:02 does that would that be like an illegal thing if you if you put like a candidate from 30 years ago in there like a Reagan Bush 86 yeah something you could do that you could do that as long as they're not on the election, as long as they're not running this election. Back to back, World War II champs? Yeah, your vote for Pedro shirt.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Listen, if I wear a red or red, white, and blue, or a blue shirt, sometimes certain voters yell at me because I have a specific color on. So I've learned. Yeah, I try to go. I've learned not to wear blue or red on election day. True. If Maddie was, if Maddie was a poll worker tomorrow and he showed up looking like this, what do you think they would think?
Starting point is 00:18:40 they would have something to say some of them really isn't that interesting so that the American flag itself is somewhat politicized yes how about that okay interesting let's see red literally yeah I wear my army mom shirt sometimes and I get criticized for that really really I believe that one has to be
Starting point is 00:18:56 that one has to be you gotta let that one go that one has to be null and void that should be a hundred percent success rate maybe maybe it's a Navy person maybe they're going to go Navy people it's the it's the voter that doesn't like me to begin with so he's going to say he or she is going to say something.
Starting point is 00:19:13 He always got one. Always got one. You're not saying this one. What a bastard. Yeah. Yeah. Way more than one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Wow. So what's kind of some of like the misinformation or the conspiracy theories that you guys are hearing from like voters and stuff like when you are kind of being like, hey, just do this. And I'm sure there's some offhanded remarks or some off color comments and stuff. Like is there anything specific that you guys are hearing when people are coming over to the polls and just being like, well, I hope you guys are doing your due diligence
Starting point is 00:19:38 today because I don't want to know. election fraud or something like that oh i get taught all the time yeah like even our family members tell us that they you know certain things yeah election fraud i'm like i sit there for 13 hours a day and we do everything at the end the clothes you run all the slips and they you know and we send them down to the city and i and they still don't believe even though i work there and i tell them they don't yeah i couldn't be the patients you guys have i couldn't be a poll workers i'd be thrown out jokes the entire day you have to bite your tongue yeah i couldn't buy my tongue i'd get an ulcer I have too many ulcers.
Starting point is 00:20:11 You just have to get used to it. You just have to get a hard skin. You guys ever, I know a big thing right now is like hitting camera stuff. Like I know who just released the Oculus, Facebook. They do it a lot with like just regular like looking glasses. You know how Clark Kent wears like these black glasses and stuff. Do you guys have any YouTubers or maybe somebody from a political party who's trying to catch you guys in a lie? I feel like that's, I feel like that content has been out of control since 2020.
Starting point is 00:20:38 presidential may right at the end of election like right when the polls were ready to close i had four people come in that wanted to sign up to vote and were videotaping me because i told them that they had to already have been signed up to vote before they could vote got you and they were videotaping me telling me that i was not allowing them their legal right yeah i did have that and do you think they were doing it intentionally or they just totally didn't know intentionally they literally walked in at two minutes before election day was over and it was intentional i mean they ran in and ran right up to me like they knew what they were doing they were looking for something they were looking for something like a confrontation and say okay gotcha and you explained to them
Starting point is 00:21:18 hey it's past the closing time yeah how about this was the date that you had to sign up by you know this is the number that you can call before the election yeah like you can even sign up you know you can't sign up the day of and they didn't understand why and they wanted to sit there and argue Hand up. I forgot on to register. Come on, dude. What are you talking about? It's my fault.
Starting point is 00:21:40 It's on me. That's unbelievable. I voted in the last two. So, have you voted for more elections or more American Idol winners? Ooh, man, I voted for more Dancing with the Stars. That's a good one. Contestants that I have elections in the last decade. Yeah, it's pretty fair.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I like Andy Rector, I'm sorry. Voting for our next president, Kelly Clarkson. Yeah. Sinjaya, that's dastard, Sondai should have won. Yeah. That should have won. No, he's running in New York. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:22:08 What's, um, is it easy to stop voter fraud? I think we have probably some safeguards. I think we have, I think now we have more safeguards than we did when it was on paper. Yeah. I absolutely know. Okay. How about both mail-ins and both in person, you think? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Yes. Yes. Okay. No, it's just, you know, because that's like the talking point. That's the sticking point for everybody that they talk about. about, but I was reading something that it was like a couple people who actually believed in like fraudulent voter fraud that was like that was like you know tearing apart the elections all they did was just go to one of the trainings and they were just like oh there's no chance you could you could vote twice or oh there's no chance that you could commit voter fraud without a legitimate like like foolproof plan. So like these people who are coming to you guys and like you know, talking about their, like, misinformation or their conspiracy theories and everything. It just feels like everybody should just go through training, like a training.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Like, you should sign up to be a poll worker if you don't believe that the elections are fair. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. I think they don't know what goes on behind the scene. So it's easy for them to say, oh, voter fraud. Like I said, we have family members that do it. And, you know, it's, you sit there and you tell them.
Starting point is 00:23:27 But, I mean, you know, because they just think they go in. I mean, they basically think they could probably go in and then come in with a bag on their head and register, you know, under, like, So my buddy has a name. A little Halloween wig? Yeah. And then go in there and vote that. You know, it's not that easy. It's not.
Starting point is 00:23:40 But yeah, you're right. Like, they only see the part when they walk in. They, you know, vote, you know. They don't have to give any ID. That's the biggest thing. Yes. That's a big. That's a big sticking point for a lot of people is that they don't have to show ID.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Would it be easier for you guys if there were stricter voting ID rules? Would it be easier for you guys personally? If you had to show ID to vote. I think it would take longer. Yeah. I think I, yeah, for the longest time there's, and that's the big sticking point. That's why people think there's flawed.
Starting point is 00:24:12 One time they had to, one time you had to show ID. Yeah. We did it one time. When was that? My dad was still alive, so he's been dead nine years. So I'm, 10, 11 years ago maybe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:25 12. Yeah. Okay. One time. But that's a big sticking point. Everybody's like, you should have to show ID. You should have to show ID. So people voted to show ID.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And that. And people didn't want to show ID. And then, so then it went back to no show and ID. Got it. So what is the fundamental understanding that, like, because in my, my understanding, I would think anything you do in life, you have to prove where you are for the most part. Why is it that voting is one of the few things that it seems like you can just kind of show up and say, there's my name, verify your address by word, and then you're trusted on that.
Starting point is 00:24:53 What do you, why is that the case do you think? I honestly don't know. Yeah. I honestly don't have an answer for that. I just said a lot of people say, oh, you know, you need ID. to do that why don't you need ID to vote right I don't know some people just come in and they automatically hand it to
Starting point is 00:25:09 you their driver's license so I'll just you know look them up using that but it's not required yeah I hear on that one because it's like you got to show ID to buy beer obviously to be 21 but I got I checked into a hotel room like couple weeks ago I had to show ID and I'm just thinking like sometimes it does say that they have to show ID like if they're voting
Starting point is 00:25:28 the first time they voted in there or if they it'll say ID required it'll say ID required and then you have to have to do it. So tomorrow I will have to because I recently just moved to this apartment and it'll be a different point. You may not. If you're, it depends on if you've moved polling places. Depends on if they're a Democrat or Republican
Starting point is 00:25:43 they can just tell me. They tell me you look like a yeah you seem like you can't tell. This has nothing to do Democrat or Republican. You guys aren't saying this you guys aren't saying this but I went and voted yesterday I could tell you off Rip who's voting for walking into these polling places. Yes you can. I see a lot of camouflage. I say
Starting point is 00:26:01 I know where you're going brother. I got that Pick them out of the letter. Pick them out of the little police line. You know, because it says on the screen where, you know, what it, what they are.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It does. It does. It's a fun game. Oh, sure. It's a fun game. You don't need to play that game tomorrow. It's like, 200 people showing up.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah. It's a fun game. Yeah. That's a great game. Sure. And of course, it's not, you know. There's not a lot of my perspective. It was a dead giveaway.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Look, I get yelled at not even sitting behind a table. I could be across the room and my poll workers will be signed in the minute. They're yelling at me because they know that I'm, you know, the judge of election because I've been there for so long they know I'm the judge or they'll send them to me and I get yelled at sure it's my fault it's my fault that they can't vote it's my fault that
Starting point is 00:26:40 they didn't bring their mail in ballot with them what do you mean I have to go back home to get it you do yeah what's the burnout look like for poll workers or many people quitting over like safety issues I have trained and we were just talking about this on the way here I've trained nine people to be judge and nine people
Starting point is 00:26:57 worked one day and they never came back okay that's kind of like the last episode where we were in a haunted fort and they were trained those people and they were just scared of the go so they would leave and never come back. They are oddly similar job.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Election day is a long day. You have to mentally prepare for it to be a long day. Raise the pay. Yeah, that's it. And that's the thing I think that a lot of people don't volunteer because it's not where they think it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:23 There are people who come one day and they're like, I'm not doing this again. I mean, you eventually get used to. I mean, if you think about it, I go at 6 o'clock in the morning. I leave there at 8.30 at night, 9 o'clock. By the time I take the boxes, whatever. Yeah, I go in when it's dark.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I come home when it's dark. So it's, you know, 14, 15 hours for $200. It's not worth it to some people. No, 100%. Yeah. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. You know, so if you're into politics or you're into the democracy of it
Starting point is 00:27:53 and you're into making sure that it's run right, then you do. I do it. Right. I did see a poll, though, that poll workers are trusted more than if elections are run by elected officials. Like you guys are, I know we're saying
Starting point is 00:28:09 like everyone's kind of tough on you guys and everything but you guys are more trusted and I think it's like 70, 80 percent I didn't see that. In a poll. Yeah, I think it was a Pew Trust poll or something like that. Yeah, that's interesting. Why do you think that?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Why do you think people? Probably because we're one of them. Probably because we're one of them. You know what I mean? Like a lot of people don't trust elected officials or think they're only out for themselves. or think they're only out for you know certain people right
Starting point is 00:28:33 or they've only out for their agenda god the irony that shows where we're at as a country is that you're trusting an elected official less because they were elected in doing the thing that you're voting for that's really tumultuous so but I do agree that like all 50 states should vote the same way absolutely think that it should be
Starting point is 00:28:50 I don't understand how it's not it's even different dates like the only one that's the same date as a presidential election yeah sure it's like the general for that one like it's just I don't understand It should be straight across the board. Yeah. Yeah, it makes no sense at all. Why do you think states are having such a tough time finding poll workers?
Starting point is 00:29:09 I think I saw the average age of a poll worker in the United States is 61. And I believe that Pennsylvania is actually one of the worst. Yes. Have one of the lowest poll worker turnouts. Why do you think it's like that? Because it's a long day. It's a long day. It's a long day.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Because you, and people maybe don't want to waste like a vacation day at work. You know, I'm not going to waste my vacation. day and go work 14 hours. Especially our age, right? Everyone's a freaking gig worker. Yeah, it really is. Everyone's an entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Everyone's doing this. Everyone's an influencer. It's like, you know, you obviously do have your white collar jobs, but you also have a lot of blue collar jobs. I'm on disability and I know it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Like you said 61, it might be like retired people. Yeah. People have just doing it will be 61 and still doing it because we've been doing it since. Yeah. I'll be eating and still doing it with your husband. He can let me off.
Starting point is 00:29:54 People just don't want to get involved in things. No, they don't. It seems, yeah, They want to pass the buck and say that it's, that something's wrong, but they don't want to do something to me. They'll complain about it, but they're not going to say it. Because any time somebody complains, I'm like, oh, why don't you become a poll worker?
Starting point is 00:30:11 If you think, you know, there's voter fraud, come and see, work for the day and see what you think. I had that come back and bite me in the ass, though. Oh. What happened? So I said that to somebody, and he did come back and during presidential and then proceeded to not say the person's name, but you're going to vote for him. or you're going to vote for you know constantly and I was like you can't say that in here well why not I'm not saying his name because you can't say that to the voters there's a hit versus her election I mean you can't do that he's like oh you fucking
Starting point is 00:30:46 pro now you're even more guests to hers Jill Stein technically it could be I called the city commissioners I called the DA I had so many people down there talking to him yeah he never going to be a poll worker again. They give you guys like a certain text number or a certain phone that gets you right to the bat phone. We have a number, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:05 If something goes off. We have a phone, yeah. How many, on a busy one like the presidential election, how many calls are you making typically an election cycle? I call the cops quite frequently.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah. To be perfectly honest in my vision. Um, yeah, it's somebody in the machine for 45 minutes that wasn't coming out. What were they doing in there? Um, she, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:29 No, she had Daisy Dukes on and I wasn't, I was not in the room when she went in and nobody could tell me who was in there. And when I tap through the, like through the curtain and say, can I help you? Do you need help? She threatened me. And then I called the cops and I called her. Her husband actually called me and I was like, I just called the cops. He's like, I'm close. I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And as she walked out of the machine saying, happy birthday to me. Okay. It wasn't a birthday. It wasn't my birthday. She's working up the courage. There was that. There was that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Okay. A lot of propositions that year. She had a read over. That's got to be embarrassing. It was a lot. There was a lot said in between that I'm not going to say on this podcast. Let's put it out that. Colorful language.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I can imagine. Yeah. She spent 45 minutes in there trying to think of a song to sing to you. And she came out with happy birthday. And she was like, I had all that time. That's true. Come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And you think it was like the colorful language. Like she couldn't have done like 3, 369? Maybe 6, 7. Some people keep kids on it. Your colorful language had all the seniors that were in the room. Like, I shuffled them out the door. They're pretty a guess. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Sure. It was so bad you had to shuffle the seniors out. Yeah, the senior's jaws were on the ground. Yeah. Yeah. It was not bad. Is there a, is there a sobriety indication that you're supposed to keep tabs on? Well, I was not.
Starting point is 00:32:48 This was a division that I normally was judge in, but somebody had taken my box. So I just left it and went to another division. So this person didn't know. know anything about being a judge of election he was sitting behind the table he didn't know who was in the machine couldn't tell me who was in the machine knew that she was in there for 45 minutes and it just went downhill quick it really went downhill quick and the seniors were like I can only like I guess so we're getting back just it's a dumb question but is there a rule can you vote drunk um I don't know that I would let somebody in there drunk but yeah I don't know that
Starting point is 00:33:26 there's a rule. Yeah. It's like, you know, me and Mac have six beers. Yeah, we say, let's go pick the president. We go,
Starting point is 00:33:33 let's go pick the president. Let's go pick the president. Live it up for once. I think if you're, if you're capable to walk in, I'd let you. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:44 If you could smell it on us. Yeah. We're not causing an issue. If you're not causing an issue, you can go in. How about that? I'll let you in. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You know what? I think the turnouts for the midterms, I think more people would have came out if they got six beers down at McNally's and then head over to your guys' place or Ron Pub or whatnot. Just like it's a stressful decision
Starting point is 00:34:05 I'd love to have a beer before I could make my mind up I can imagine It's a lot going on You know Might be in my future Bring it off one with you Exactly
Starting point is 00:34:13 Oh yeah We're gonna say We're paying more booze for the poll workers That's the name of this podcast More pay more booze Yes So I do want to talk to you guys about Because it was like
Starting point is 00:34:22 We were at the forefront of it The 2020 election That must have been insane. Insane. Now, you guys were in the Northeast. I know in the center city there was a lot of problems.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Fishtown, I remember, there was a lot of problems in the Northeast. Okay, there's a lot of problems in the Northeast. What do you remember from those times? Any stories, any examples, kind of what was it like? It's a blur.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's a blur. It was a busy. It was a busy. We were waiting a line for hours. Like we got there at 6.15 and the line was wrapped around the building. Yeah. So who knows how long they were even there.
Starting point is 00:34:55 So we get in. get paper copies of the questions that are on the ballot you know so I literally sent somebody out to make copies of them and I was passing them to every third person so that they could read them so that when they got in there they didn't have that part to do right so I was like shuffling down the line and it sort of made it go a little bit faster but not really and in the building that we're in is like a hallway so there's a room over here and a room over here so I had a line going down this side a line going down this side and a line coming out of the gym going out the back door it was horrible oh and what's some
Starting point is 00:35:31 of the experiences like you remember like do you remember just like the emotion the tension just being like in line even people were there like ever any some problems no i don't think that there was as many problems in 2020 as there is now really or that there was prior i think 2020 problem-wise was not bad yeah um do you like the social distancing or was it not remember that that wasn't even the case they weren't social distance they weren't social distancing um i did wear a mask um they were they were not social distancing and they they were on top of people um they didn't care they you know the voters didn't care we tried i tried hand in the mouth gloves they didn't want them sanitizers we had masks like we had i spray in the machines every you know so many minutes and
Starting point is 00:36:19 they were like can you not spray it i want to vote i'm like i'm trying to help me you He's got to throw your hands up and just be like, fuck it, dude, you get COVID, you get COVID. Let's just get this shit through. Let's get home. Yeah, I mean, that's about where you're at. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Hey, listen, I respect that. But you think there's been like more tensions in lines like since like, I mean, 2022, 2024, 24? I haven't had as many lines in my divisions that I did in 2020. Got it. I mean, we have certain busy times.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah. Like, you know, first thing in the morning. Even the last presidential one was it. But I think it's the mail imbalance. I think the mail imbalance is the issue. I'm doing mail-in ballots now. Yeah, we didn't have... And that's increased since the pandemic started in 2020.
Starting point is 00:36:59 So that's why... We didn't have the lines nowhere near this presidential than we did 2020. Especially because we were trying to get the fuck out of their houses. Wow. Yeah. And they can do the mail-in ballots. Yeah. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Have you, as you've seen, you know, new voters come into the fold, a new crop of 18-year-olds coming in. Do you notice, like, a trend with the new voters or how they go about it or anything? Is there anything you're picking up on with the new folks? No, I do. If I know that. they're new and it's their first time voting. I do ask them if they want me to take their picture. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And I take their picture standing by the curtain. Do you offer to make them a TikTok? No, I do not offer to make them a TikTok. That's what I really want. Yeah. They want you to record them making a TikTok. Okay. They're probably making their own TikTok, truthfully.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah. I don't go in with them. But I do take their picture if they want to. Maybe that's what the Daisy Dukes is doing. She's waiting to make a shot. She's trying to do it. There's that. Poor girl's in there shaking ass for hours.
Starting point is 00:37:51 She's waiting for a camera. That could be. I might have to look into that. Sure. Are you allowed to, are you not to take a picture of who you vote for and put it online? I do not think you're allowed to.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Like us personally. Like we're not like. I don't know the answer to that, truthfully. How do we call the wizard in? Do you know? You're not supposed to, but we're not supposed to stop yet.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Gotcha. Wow. Okay. Like I would not know that you're taking a picture inside there. Because the curtain's closed. And the curtains close. And the curtains close. And I'm not.
Starting point is 00:38:24 obviously on Facebook to look you up to see if you did it. 100%. But yeah, I would if they asked if they could do it, I would tell them now. Okay. Gotcha. Cool. Just because I think that morally and ethically it's wrong. I think that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:38:39 A lot of people, that's true. I think you'd be kind of nuts to post what you open it a can of words. At this point, there's no right or wrong side at this point. There's only right ins. That's the only way you get away with it. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I can't. So do you see like what's the common mistakes that you see from people that are coming in to vote?
Starting point is 00:38:57 You know, just kind of like small things to like larger things that you see pretty often. Like are they waiting the wrong place in line? Did they not know where they're going, giving the wrong name kind of thing? We're a private community. We have 90% of the voters live in our community. Some live outside of it.
Starting point is 00:39:12 They've come to the same place. We have three rooms, three divisions. They go to the same place to vote each time. They'll walk in and say, I don't know where I have to vote. And I'll be like, you vote in the gym. Yeah. And they'll be like, oh, really?
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah, you vote in room seven. I don't think I voted there last year. Yes, you did. Yeah. You did. Trust me, you did. Go down there. Same school's been around forever.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And I now get neon paper, like, poster board. And I put on the front of my tables, what streets, what streets vote in that division? Oh, you do. I do. Oh, yeah. Because they swear that they don't vote there. And I'm like, yes, you do. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It is, it is a bit confusing. Like, I had this on, I'm just drawn from Sunday. My first time voting on Sunday, and I'm 29. So I'm not proud of it. Was your first time voting ever? First time voting ever? You didn't give me shit 20 minutes ago. He was.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah. I was there. That's it. No, you guys forgot about it. You're their worst nightmare. Yeah. That's right. Sorry, guys.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Well, I love your work. I appreciate you. Yeah. In that whole time, because I say you can't complain if you don't vote. See, I complained a lot. I did a lot of complaining. So now, as of yesterday at 2 p.m., I can complain as much as I want. About the New Jersey governor.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That's the extent of my complaint. Yeah, it's true. I don't want to hear you complain about the president. That's right. I can't say a single word. So I'll keep that. Not until 2028. Well, the one thing I'll complain about is they give you the place on where to vote.
Starting point is 00:40:29 So I go there, it's, you know, Sunday at 11 a.m. And I walk up to, it's a church. And then the church has a middle school in the back, like, you know, kind of normal Catholic school set up. So I'm wandering around the school as a grown man, wearing all black, which is a bad move on my part. Just kind of wandering around a school in a church early in the morning. Not a great look.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah. So somebody's walking down the street and I try to yell for their name because I can't find out where to go. So I yell for them and they don't turn. and acknowledge me, I'm kind of out of earshot. So I finally find the actual front of the church, and there's a sign that says 8 a.m. Mass is at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:41:02 The 10.30 a.m. mass is a hearing impaired mass. So at this point, I started my morning by yelling at somebody who's hearing impaired, trying to get their attention to find out where I was going. Off to a horrific start. And I felt guilty.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I said my our father as it was going on. I would turn around and just continue to your streak of not voting. I almost went home, but my girlfriend was like, if you don't vote today, I'm not talking to you for the rest of the day. It's a rock and a hard place.
Starting point is 00:41:25 I can't. So then I just spend the next half an hour, wandering around a school, pulling on doors that are locked. Talking to more deaf people. Just trying to help. Find somebody to help me. And then come to find out that that is the day of election place. I had to go to the early voting place.
Starting point is 00:41:38 That was five minutes down the road. So that was my first voting story. I will be back. I'll vote again. It was a tough intro. I mean, at least you can go to your poll work and be like, I've never voted here next time. Then I can meet it too.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And you can meet now. That was a tough one. damn i walked into the church and everything and everybody was kind of like silently facing forward and i was like wow they're really locked in did you do one of the uh the candlelights with the dollar you put the dollar because i can't go i can't go i can't go i can't go into a church without putting in a dollar in and just turning the candle long i'll tell you what as somebody was raised catholic it was hard to tell that there was a sign language mass going on because the catholic religion has so many hand signs that i thought it was just a normal church
Starting point is 00:42:17 they're happening they also changed the latin like five years ago that's right yeah how you translate latin with the what a pull in the rug for I'm under them. Did you imagine doing the Nicene Creed and my goodness give that woman
Starting point is 00:42:27 that one's gonna have carpal tunnel. God bless them doubly God bless them. My goodness. Oh man. Any changes you'd like to see
Starting point is 00:42:34 in how elections are run? Besides other being federally mandated so everybody has the same rules. I think that's the biggest one. What about online voting? No. Never?
Starting point is 00:42:48 No. Mm. I think that there's too much ways to get hacked online true that I would think that it's not
Starting point is 00:42:59 going to wash I would think there'd be more fraudulent ways to do fraud online voting than the way that it's done
Starting point is 00:43:07 sure right and but in the iPad is that housing it via internet like when you say you have the the book on the iPad
Starting point is 00:43:14 oh you're signing in there you're just signing the ballots the ballots go into a hopper thing and it's locked right And that's, I can't even get in it.
Starting point is 00:43:23 The night you have to put it in a bag and the police come and pick it up. The police come and pick it up. And transport it to. Yeah, I can't even, I can't open the hopper and like shake it in case it's jammed. But it's locked with a cable. And I can't even get into it. Yeah, you couldn't get into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Even if I wanted to, I couldn't get it. Yeah, the iPad is just you're signing your name. It's nothing to do with your boat. It's just you signing your name. Okay. And the machines are just like big computer screens. Gotcha. what about um i know some states do this what about treating poll workers like a jury system
Starting point is 00:43:57 where every couple of years you're selected and you're doing your civic duty and you got to do you got to be a poll worker i think i think that that would i mean it would be a way to get more people it would be a way to that would be like it would be worse because then the people that are working wouldn't want to do it they wouldn't do it right they wouldn't care like the poll workers that do do it every time so you think it's it's more beneficial for pennsylvania to struggle to get poll workers than forcing people to do their civic no i think that pennsylvania needs to raise the um make some changes they need to make some changes like what pay the more pay them more sure is a big one i think paying the more is do you think
Starting point is 00:44:43 election day's too long i do yes really yes and it's hard because like because people People work. I understand people work. And I used to work 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. So. But we have mail-in ballots now. So for that type of situation, they could do a mail-in ballot. You know, whereas before I had to, like, rush home and get it there before 8 o'clock
Starting point is 00:45:03 if people work that day. Yeah. I do think that it's. Different shifts and, you know, so. I do think that it's too long. Sure. Yeah. I got to imagine, you know, obviously, I think mail-and-bouts have been around for a while, right?
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah, quite a while. And they just became mainstream around, like, 2020. And so everyone's kind of like, everyone on one side. kind of like screw mail and ballots. Other people on one side are like I vote through mail and ballots. I got to imagine as we get further and further as long as we don't have, you know, some crazy more conspiracy theories or, you know, something does end up happening with mail-in ballots.
Starting point is 00:45:35 People are going to gradually become more confident and willing to vote by mail-in-bouts. Like I'm thinking a 12-year-old now in two election cycles. I think that the younger people are more confident with, and not younger, just meaning like teenage, younger 18. I think the younger generation is more than the seniors are. The seniors are more not to do
Starting point is 00:46:00 the mail-in bail. They love mailing stuff. Who does? But they want to come to the old-fashioned way of how they go there and vote at the machine. That part, yes, like voting. It's just old school.
Starting point is 00:46:16 They've done it all their life. They've done it all their life. That's all they've known. Whereas now the younger people, are like, oh, mail-in ballots. They didn't have technology back then either. They didn't have computers. They didn't have cell phones. So they may not trust it.
Starting point is 00:46:25 So they may not trust it. I think that the people that are computer savvy and know that this is a good way are more apt to do it. Sure. They'll send cash in the mail-in-the-mail-battle. It's not legal. Absolutely. Like my aunt sends my cousin $20 looking a card every bird that we tell her not to.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah. I do love that. Maybe a carrier pigeon. Absolutely. Send a falcon out there to send my vote. A message at a bottle. And the same. Running the goddamn government.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It's something special, man. Yeah. Oh, I got any traditions or rituals on election day? What you guys have, personally? Any good luck charms so that you don't get yelled at? No, I got, if I had one, I wish I had, I knew it, because I don't have one. We pray. I pray.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And just hope for the best. Hope for the best. That's it. Expect the worst, hope for the best. Because you never know. You just never know. Right. It could be the best election.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It could be the worst. What is something voters never see? like behind the scenes that you guys do is there anything the amount of effort it takes before and after yeah before and after setting up yeah it's a lot it's a lot it's a lot it's a lot on the poll workers like i'm running you know different here there and everywhere i walk 20 000 plus steps every election sure it's a lot it's it's it's it's you don't get to eat it's too busy you order food that it's cold yeah you know it's just you know
Starting point is 00:47:51 any uh any constituents where they bring you guys you know cookies or brownies or something Ed Nielsen no just Ed Nielsen is the only one in the Northeast that brings us I'm shocked by that the one poll worker
Starting point is 00:48:04 um the one in ours she brings in like Oreo Cook she's a doctor she speaks the day off because she loves to work election day like she just thinks to send her my way yeah she's her and her parents do it like they just decided to get involved
Starting point is 00:48:16 and they work every election but she always brings like by the end of the night she's got like a big thing of Oreos and she's handing out cookies and everything she comes around and talks to everybody so I went to the store today I usually either do meatballs or hot roast beef or um I went to the store day and bought lunch meat and chips and dips and oh yeah yeah is there any confidence that way at least they can eat yeah yeah you got to I think that's I think that's well-deserved we do um somebody I'll do a like a coffee run or a yeah that's right you know yeah sure do that. Is there any confluence now where it seems like a lot of politicians are
Starting point is 00:48:52 also in like the business space so you can kind of have to keep an eye on like, you know, I mean, just go to an example would be like Trump having nine different businesses. Technically they're not wearing like a thing that's a proponent of his campaign, but maybe they say, hey, brought on some Trump cookies or whatever Trump Tower cookies or anything. You have to
Starting point is 00:49:09 keep an eye out even more so now. Are they allowed to read the art of the deal in line? That's a great question. That's a phenomenal question. maybe an audio book keep that thing in the ears if you don't know I don't know okay are they allowed to read Kamala's new book that just came out in line tomorrow
Starting point is 00:49:30 because she's not running I mean they can read they can read anything they want in line and if it's about a candidate that's there now that is running now it's 10 feet away from the can they read it out loud can they read the order of the deal out loud
Starting point is 00:49:44 No. Okay. I would tell them to go outside. 10 feet away from the pool. Yes. Well, I get yelled at probably, but I'll still tell them to go outside 10 feet away from the bowl. Now we're just fucking around. Can they read anti-articles made from the foot off the choir about Larry Krasner out loud in line?
Starting point is 00:50:03 No. Okay. 10 feet away. I would not let them. You can get away with murder 10 feet away from bowling house. You can get away with murder. That's right. Anything.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Anything. You part your ass in Susan's bowl. The polling place, did you try to say something anti-something? She'll kick your ass out of there. Kick you out 10 feet and then you can talk all you want. I love that. That's two decades to just pent up frustration ready to be on leash. You know they're coming to my polling place tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I know it. She always has the stories. Like my place, you know, I get some stuff like hers. It's always, like she can always one up me. Always. What's your favorite? What's your favorite one? Probably happy birthday girl.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Happy birthday girls. Yeah. Do you know what election that was? I do. It was when Jimmy Dillon was running. How long? Oh, that was last one, 20, 24?
Starting point is 00:50:48 20, 24. 2024. Jimmy Dillon. Wow. You know what he wrote? The Art of the Dill. Hello, folks. How about we?
Starting point is 00:50:58 Just cool stuff I come up with guys. It's unbelievable. The other reason I know it was Jimmy Dillans because I went to his thing afterwards and they played happy birthday because they were all there. And they played a joke with you? That's funny.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't get to that. I look a good gag. Oh, yeah. I look a good gag. Yeah, at the Carpenter Union. Are there ever people that are fighting about their own political kind of standings while they're in line? Without being, like, specific, they might not be yelling, oh, I like this guy, like this guy.
Starting point is 00:51:25 But there's people that are clearly kind of at odds with one another that you've seen that you had to kind of phone the cops for? I mean, I haven't. We don't have lines. Like, they come in, like, I really wish they would do this. I know they'd have to redo the whole city. You know, it's so busy. Like, I feel like we could, like, combine, like, a couple polling places together. Sure.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You know what I mean? We don't have lines. We don't. 20, 20 was the only time I had lines. Right. Not one person comes in. Wow. Like it's really, like tomorrow it's going to be that kind of day.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Like you think, oh, we're going to get the morning rush, maybe five people come in. Five people. And you're like, oh, the after dinner. I mean, and you might not have anybody from like 8 a.m. to like 1 p.m. Yeah. I mean, it's really. It could be really slow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah. So they could combine some, I think. And they could. That would help. That would help with our poll workers situation. You wouldn't have, right. Absolutely. They don't want to.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Two, three hours, there's nobody coming in. I'd kill the time, cast a couple votes, missed it up a little bit. I'm sitting here for two hours, see what I like it. Drink a beer. Bring a ball. You know, it's just like. If you vote for each person once, you technically cancel it out. It's just something to be killing paper really at that point.
Starting point is 00:52:31 How many times do you have couples come in being like, I'm canceling out my husband's vote? Because that's a big one. Yeah. No. No? No. They seem to all be the same. Like, the husband and wife seem to be the same party a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Most of the time, I think, yes. Most. Yeah. Most. What's the most? Why, you know, sometimes, sometimes they're not? Sometimes they're not. Have you ever seen any good, you know, domestic arguments?
Starting point is 00:52:57 No, no, they won't. They don't argue there. They just suffer and silence? They just go in and, yeah, they just go in and do their thing. Give each other a side eye when they come out of the booth, knowing they just canceled each other out? Pretty much. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I can fuck with that. I can mess with that. I'd be more of a problem if you were an Eagles fan and the other one was a cowboy's fan. Sure. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's true. Or you could be like an Eagles fan and lived in Dallas country
Starting point is 00:53:18 and had your grandson's first birthday cake made at a Dallas bakery. Oh, no. Oh, good, good, good, good, good, good. My son's in the military, so he had his son's first birthday cake made by Dallas. Oh, fantastic. Okay, that makes sense. I like that. Robs on the womb.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah, it was good. How long do you have to live somewhere before you can vote in that state as part of their, like, is there a time limit? Like, I lived in Northeast Philadelphia for a year, and I think I got my ballot in PA. No, as soon as you move there, you can vote. Is that right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you just got to sign up to vote.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah, you just have to register a vote at your new residence. Okay. Wow. I thought there'd be like a, I don't know why I thought there'd be like a naturalization process. I guess it doesn't make any sense. Naturalization. Not really. You come to that border.
Starting point is 00:54:01 You're a, you're a good. I got scared. You're not a citizen. You come over to Ben Franklin Bridge, boy. You can vote wherever you want. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Look, we told you we're not there right as bold. We're here to learn You're only coming from Jersey to Pennsylvania We'll let you vote They're going to give you a Pennsylvania test How do you say hi and bye in Philadelphia? Spell scookel There you go
Starting point is 00:54:27 No can do, sorry Find John You can smell scoole or you can vote I wish I could I'll see you guys in Trenton Yeah, it's the best I could do Oh my God What would be the Jersey one
Starting point is 00:54:35 What would you have to spell? You probably just have to do like the fist pump from Jersey Shore a couple times And they see it's like a physical fitness test Over there Spell Snokey Spell snooky. You can smell snucky, you can vote in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Even worse, they tell you to smell snucky, and you go, oh, God, it's going bad. Three Bon Jovi songs, you can vote. Dude, the soul, living on a prayer. Yeah, okay. What's a good one? Give me a good one. Give me another third one. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:01 You're trying to vote. Bon Jovi. You're doing this. I didn't think there was a naturalization process. All right, my third Bon Jovi song is as follows. Let me look it up. Yeah. What are some funny questions that you guys have been asked?
Starting point is 00:55:13 by people that were going into polls like maybe with the machine or maybe when you had to do paper balance any else at the top of the head? I'm telling you I had somebody that used to walk to the old machines they lifted up and they looked like they had a back in them
Starting point is 00:55:29 and I had a voter every time walk to the back of the machine and stand inside of it. Every time. And I would be standing there holding the curtain open for him to go inside and he would walk to the back and stand inside the machine.
Starting point is 00:55:43 the blind guy? No. It was not. It was not. Yeah. But he liked the back of the machine. I don't know why, but he did. You always have to tell him you got to come out this way.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Some people have their proclivities. Listen, you do what you do. Same thing. I can't. And the people, I mean, like, when I went and voted, the guy in front of me, he went up and did his whole thing. And then they told him, you can go over towards the actual, like, voting kind of encampment thing.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And he pointed over there and the girls, yeah, right over there. He goes, all right, I'll be over there. And then it was kind of like, well, yeah, no shit. to you just said go over there and he goes i'll be over there like it was his choice he was like i'll just be over there inside one of the voting things so do you i mean you deal with the general population are you getting a lot of comments that you're just smiling through it like okay yeah yeah any highlights he can remember it like the you um you um goofiest things you've heard people say just ought to whib 20 years i can i can tell you because he's my father and he's not
Starting point is 00:56:38 with us anymore that when he was a poll worker too but God love them when you had to ask for ID we have three nuns that come from St. Dominic's parish and they obviously didn't have their ID and I said being the judge they can vote they vote here every year they can vote
Starting point is 00:56:59 let them vote after they leave he says to me well how do you know that they didn't go buy a costume at the costume? I like where he's going from I was like are you kidding me right now my dad said that I swear Where? My dad said, Hal, do you not know that they didn't go to the costume store?
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah. Dad, they are like 70 years old, nuns. Who knows? Could be a covert operation. That's true. He really thought that. St. Do you think St. Peter made him show an ID when he went up to heaven?
Starting point is 00:57:31 Probably. I hope so. I hope so, too. I do. I hope so, tell. That's funny. Yeah, my dad was crazy. How dry to your hands get after peeling off I voted stickers?
Starting point is 00:57:41 I do not do them. My machine inspector does them, but I will tell you that we have I voted and then we have Spanish ones that say yovote. So I, as the judge of election, tell everybody in line, I think you need the yovote one because I think that that should be Philly slang
Starting point is 00:57:58 for I voted. Yo vote, yeah. Yovote. So I give everyone yovote ones. I love that, yeah. I think that that should be Philly slang. And you can ask anybody in my divisions, they'll tell you, I try to give out the yovote ones.
Starting point is 00:58:11 When you tell people you're your poll worker, what's the first thing they say? What's the first thing that comes to mind? I think they pity us. Yeah. They do. Yeah. It's a long day. That's what they say.
Starting point is 00:58:25 It's a long day. Yeah, it's like the highest form of like customer service where you're dealing with. They think that it, you know, we're there from seven to eight. Yeah. We're there from six till after we get every machine closed. So if there's a line at eight o'clock and the last voter doesn't get done to 830, we can't start closing the machine store. Sure.
Starting point is 00:58:43 So then we're there even longer. So there's no kind of like, I get this a lot of like, you know, like you walk into a Chipotle that closes at 10.30 and you walk in at 1015 and the workers look at you like they want to fucking kill you. You guys can't give any of that. No, like, oh, okay. Yeah, we get annoyed though because we're like, all right, five more minutes, five more minutes. And then it's like, here comes the crowd.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Yeah. Yeah. As always. Yeah. The crowd follows after that. I can totally see that. Oh, yeah. Once you see one in there, yeah, then you're like, all right, I do want a chicken burrito
Starting point is 00:59:11 hotel every time every single time dude that could be a nice part of polling yeah yeah honestly anything you want people to know you know about being uh poll workers something we missed in our yeah our dumb guideline of the story that it's a thankless job yeah yeah but important but deeply important yeah but important and a lot of the poll workers are ethically and morally doing it for that reason right because they believe in because they believe in in the democracy that's why we're doing it so know that we're not there to do anything fraudulent one way or the other. Exactly. Has everyone a poll worker that's gotten some kind of like high ranking like metal for like
Starting point is 00:59:50 maintaining the integrity? Are they like actually like you have a very like important job. Yeah. You'd think there's some kind of like high level nothing. No, because we all do the same thing. We all do the same thing. Yeah. So it's like nobody does it the best.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I guess there's like Michael Jordan of maintaining polls. No. No. No. No. I think I got one time I got a comment from somebody saying that the judge of election. really maintained a well-organized election once in 20 years. If you get the 25, do they get you like a watch?
Starting point is 01:00:17 No. Put a wah-wah gift card for Christa-sick. Give us our poll workers a little something. We get salt pretzels from Ed Nielsen. That's a... Shut, Ed Nielsen. Got to love Ednailsson. The only guys usually doing shit in the Northeast.
Starting point is 01:00:28 That sounds like... Unfortunately right. Bring in a sizzle for God's sake tomorrow morning. Yeah, enough with the stale pretzels, Ed. We want Sizzle's tomorrow. We want a little protein in that bad boy, will you? Yeah, right? These ladies are working.
Starting point is 01:00:40 all day. Help them out. Like, at least he thinks about us. That's true. Yes. That's true. And listen, like, even when he's not running, even if he's not, like, he's not on the ballot this time and he will still get soft pretzels tomorrow, every election. I kind of, I kind of look at poll workers as like flight attendants a little bit. Because it's like, I always think like flight attendants, we had a flight attendant on probably almost a year ago. And she was just talking to us about, like, I don't
Starting point is 01:01:02 know if you guys knew this. Like, they don't get paid from when you guys start boarding to when the flight is on the ground and we're deplaning. So it's like, she's like, just give us a smile. Yeah. But it does go a long way. It does. It absolutely does. And thank you.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah. Because I don't need to, technically, like, I don't think they need to lift your bag or tell you where to like, go. And that's like the worst part of flying is arriving and deep plane. Absolutely. Yeah. Because there's mongrels that don't know how to act in society. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Everybody's so anxious to get off in a hurry. In a hurry. In a hurry, yes. Yeah. Your baggage is, your bag is still going to be in the baggage claim no matter what. Yeah, it's not going to be there. Exactly. You won't be there.
Starting point is 01:01:42 But, I mean, that's the same thing with polling. You'll get your vote in. You'll get it done. Yep. Just put a goddamn smile on her face, people, please. And say thank you. Or have a nice day. Have a nice.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Anything. Today, smile, say thank you. Be nice. Yeah. That's it. Easy, easy. Like that. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Just like that. Thank you guys so much. Thank you very, very much. It was great for having you guys. This is really a lot about polls and poll working. I hope you. You come to my divisions tomorrow I'll tell you where the 10 feet is.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I'll show you where the line is. Yes, we'll show you exactly that. Sweet. Show you that 10 foot line. Next week we're going to a strip club to do that, poll workers. Okay. And then we're going to go,
Starting point is 01:02:19 we're going to find a nice blue collar lineman up on the electric pole. We're going to do a back to back to back poll workers at the lake. There you go. Do some line man ourselves, you know. There you go. Like segue one is in the other.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah. Perfect. Just segue. Yeah. And we'll give them a smile and a thank you too. So it'll all kind of come full. We think all those poll workers, by the way, should be paid more.
Starting point is 01:02:38 That's right, yes. They get a lot of soft pretzels coming in there, unfortunately. They don't have Ed Nielsen. They probably have some politicians, though. I'm sure. They probably do, but they don't have Ed Nielsen bringing them pretzels. Shout out to you guys. We love you.
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