Men At Work Podcast - These Are the Best Dive Bar Chicken Wings in Philadelphia!
Episode Date: May 21, 2025We're at one of the best dive bars in Philadelphia: Kellianne's Bar and Grill to see if these are the best chicken wings in the city. We talk to Happy Hour customers like Jules the Union Elect...rician, Maddie the bartender, and the owner of the joint. Get your tickets for the Men At Work Live Show Spectacular! You can be a part of the show! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-men-at-work-live-podcast-spectacular-tickets-1333921478049?aff=oddtdtcreator About Us: The Men At Work Podcast asks one question: What do you do for a living? After that the conversation flows from there. We've talked to substitute teachers, Bangladeshi t-shirt moguls, a real estate broker tight with LeBron James, and the Governor of Literal Pennsylvania. And we'll record anywhere. Random sidewalks during an eclipse, a furry convention, and more! Whether we like it or not, our jobs are most of our lives - might as well yap about it. If you want us to come to your event email us at: menatpodcast@gmail.com Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/nAvChqrT3j4?si=MSqVrBpBlOcsQZlS If you want more bonus content from every episode check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/menatworkpod*If you subscribe to the Patreon consider subscribing on a desktop or website or an android device, NOT THROUGH iOS (Apple) APP. Apple takes 30% of every month you're subscribed (yea they suck). Follow Us: The Pod: https://www.tiktok.com/@menatpodcast https://www.instagram.com/menatpod/ Follow Matt: https://www.tiktok.com/@mattpeoplescomedy https://www.instagram.com/mattpeoplescomedy/ Follow Kyle: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kylepagancb/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kylepagancb Follow Vito: https://www.instagram.com/vito_visuals/?hl=en
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By the way, I gotta say that my first time having the wings, they were incredible.
How'd you come up with the sauce?
Smoking pot.
Let's go, dude.
Yeah, dude.
Mixed sauces.
Yeah.
That's kind of all of our game here.
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Kellyann's Bar and Grill on 16th and Spring Garden.
Three-time wing champion, some of the best patrons of all time.
I miss it moving to Fishtown.
I used to live here.
It was awesome.
Matty, how are you?
Dude, I'm doing great.
I'm pumped.
I mean, I've been begging.
As a guy who likes to drink alcoholic beverages, I've been begging for a dive bar episode,
for a cool bar episode, and we're finally here. So this is kind of the, uh, it's going to
be like the, the, the drunk episode, the drinking episode, the episode where we get a little
loose for the goose and we're gonna find some people that work here. Some people that are
patrons, uh, Kelly Anne's is the move.
Yeah. Kelly Anne's rules. It's been with me forever. It's been with me before the pandemic,
during the pandemic, and now it just came through for us because it was raining outside
and that's why we're doing one indoors.
So we're gonna get some bar patrons for happy hour
and see what we can get.
We might horse around and goof around.
What'd you think so far?
You've been here for about 30 minutes.
One of the coolest bars maybe of all time.
I think very, no, Kelly Hans is great.
I mean, as a guy who likes just drinking and sitting down,
this has been hitting both of those avenues
pretty uproariously
Well, the bathrooms are hilariously small. Yeah, but I like that because it makes me feel big guys
Yeah, it makes you feel I was thinking the same thing
I'm getting an Alice in Wonderland syndrome in the back like are the shoulders growing do I have boulders for shoulders?
How many guys hitting double bicep back pose in that bathroom? It's gotta be off the rails
I'm talking literally about myself to be honest.
Just Scott Steiner flexing in the mirror.
You come to the Kelly Ains bathroom,
the smallest man would feel like the biggest giant.
Get some food and go hang out in the bathroom by yourself
and just don't scream.
All right, let's get into the episode.
Let's do it.
All right, we're here with the owner of Kelly Ains.
Yes.
Good morning, gentlemen.
Good morning.
Good morning at three, four o' gentlemen. Good morning. But that's what
happens when you own a bar. Time doesn't exist. Time stands still. You're not kidding
dude. Man, owning a bar when you're growing up, did you ever think that you would own a bar?
So I definitely, that was always like kind of in the back of my head, but a huge
portion of my family were always like get out of the
bar business we don't want you to have anything like the whole like almost like
you're too smart to be doing that nice things so I definitely took that advice
and I went to school and did like went to be an accountant so then you ended up
in the bar business people were the ones to be like, ah, you know what, you were perfect for this all along.
It all worked out.
That's hilarious that your family would tell you that
because as I've known you for almost three, four years now,
I'm definitely like, you are perfect for the bar business.
Yeah, and I always just had so much fun doing it.
I bartended my whole life.
Obviously, money's always been good, it's fun.
You feel like you're spending the night out.
How does that come to be? How did you, the early stages of buying the bar and getting
into this entire industry?
The background there is, my dad and my uncle were 50-50 partners here. They used to have
another Kellyanne's, it's now called Local 44. It was on 44th and Spruce. So I was more born and raised at that Kelly-Anns.
So as a kid, you know, just bar back into whatever,
you know, hand out beads for Aaron McExpress,
all that kind of stuff.
So my uncle was down here.
He passed away in 2016.
And then after a few years, his wife kind of was like,
you know, I don't want to be involved anymore.
Just want to get rid of her half. And then, so December 2019, my dad approached me
and kind of was like, hey, you know,
this is kind of where we're going.
Yeah.
And then that's your move.
Like think about it, like no pressure.
So I took like a month or two, thought about it.
Oh yeah.
And then I kind of was followed up with like,
oh also, if you don't, we're gonna sell it.
So it was one of those things like, oh no.
No pressure at all or anything, dude.
Yeah, just, yeah.
Yeah, and I didn't mention, like, Kellyanne is my mom.
So it's a bar named after my mom.
So I was kind of like, ah, I can't let this die, you know?
So.
They're gonna turn into like Bobby Joe.
And you don't wanna have a bar that's like gonna be
Bobby Joe.
Muhammad's Pub and Grill.
Yeah, Dorothy Anne.
Like, ugh. I know, Kellyanne's awesome. That's my mom's name.. Mohammed's Pub and Grill. Yeah, with Dorothy Ann. Like, ugh.
I know, Kellyanne's awesome.
That's my mom's name.
My mom's first and middle name, Kellyanne.
Yeah, shut up, Kellyanne Peoples, dude.
Yeah, so I related.
I was excited to be here, man.
So you guys are like, was it always a big wing place
or you took it over and you're like,
we're about to fuck some wings up?
Wings have always been the thing here.
Always been the move?
Yeah.
For years they did 50 Cent Wings for Quizzle
on Wednesday nights and that was a huge was it always the Kelly and sauce no
So that is one that I did bring to the table. Yeah, that was how'd you come up with the sauce?
smoking pot
Sauces yeah, that's that's kind of all
Pretty excited to hear about the backdoor so you're high as fuck dude. You're living in a you know a studio apartment
What's that process like are you just pulling shit out of the cabinet or like what's this look like?
I think the sauce by the way I gotta say that my first time having the wings they were incredible
Yeah, so good it more comes back to you know you're in somewhere so much
You can't eat the same things all the time. I'm not weighing every day
I would just be bored as hell so it's just more like mixing every
Couple sauces we have together and
then kind of see what comes out there.
Nice.
What was the aha moment?
Was there a certain spice?
Was a certain time of the day?
Like, what do you remember?
No, it was just like, it was just a no brainer.
That hot gar parm combination for the Kelly Anne sauce.
That that was just kind of a simple one where it was like, hey, these two.
So that's what it is.
It's like hot.
It's like hot sauce, garlic and parm.
And I like you, dude, because you tell it.
I mean, I'm sure there's some other spices in there,
but you're not hiding anything.
If anyone could do it, they would.
But they don't also have three straight trophies
of the best wings in the goddamn city of Philadelphia.
We love that.
How many crispy clean white t-shirts were lost
in the process of making this sauce, dude?
This is actually the first time I've ever dressed nice here.
Because every time when I wear anything here, no matter what it is, it gets ruined.
Every single piece of clothing.
So I only wear things here that probably have beer companies on them for that reason.
So you own the bar.
What's the one thing that you want to put in the bar?
There has to be something that maybe due to a law or maybe due to it just doesn't work in this establishment. What's something that
you would add to this bar? So I've measured this I mean I've measured
every spare like spare inch that we have here ten times. I'm a golden tea junkie
so a golden tea in here would always be a dream come true. It's just never gonna
happen so something more realistic
Even unrealistic. Yeah, it's your letter. He's pretty realistic. I mean, maybe not in here not here, but
I've been to a bar to that golden tick. You know what? I always feel like we could get a disco ball right here
Also a little realistic that's realistic. I like we might have something unrealistic. Like I know you're a gambler. Ooh.
I know you like your parlays.
Like horses, are we talking sports?
Like what would, what would JP,
Kaisekite making some wing sauce,
what would be the most, like,
it'd be the perfect bar?
You'd hit the nail on the head with the horse race.
There would be nothing better if this was just a bar.
It'd be like, I don't know if I can say this,
back in the day my dad used to like take, you know,
bets. Statue of limitations is probably the worst. Yeah dad used to like take you know, that's statute limitations
It's probably exactly so he's out of that now. Everything's legal and jammed down your throat
Yeah, so but that is just like what a life that could be, you know, you're just sitting there cracking up
Degenerates just dumping that's pretty sweet. Oh that guy's just smacking the the program. Yeah, there's my favorite videos
People again video. Are those the kind of guys. Are those your favorite kind of bar patron?
Yeah, for sure. I mean, anyone that likes to use the term one of us, that's a loose term.
Just someone I know is just a regular good time, down with a little degenerate action.
That's the perfect kind of bar patron.
Because that was always my favorite when I was in bartending.
When I used to bartend, that was always like,
some guy that you could just shoot the shit with,
had good stories.
Yeah, and construction guys, you know,
we have a great clientele back going on.
Yeah, you do have a really good clientele.
And that's where I always used to come here
when I lived in Fairmount and everything.
I loved it here.
Yeah, and that's what's good about a lot of the bars
in this neighborhood, you know, they all kind of,
we all have the same niche of just neighborhood bars where it's just good times, you know.
Yeah, I love like here, McCross and you know, yeah, McCross is great.
Yeah, bad brother guys.
Real cool with them.
How's the jukebox situation?
Do you like it?
I know it's now I know it's all like touch tunes or the other one.
I forget what it is on top of my head and stuff.
Am I like, do you like that? The head and so am I am I like do you like
That the fact that it's like all controlled or do you wish we went back to like the old-school way putting a quarter in and no
I think it's electric. I love it. It's electric. Yeah, it literally is
It's almost like the same reason like listen to the radio in the car is good
Cuz you really have no idea what right right way and you wouldn't have thought about that banger. Yeah, I mean
You're like, oh shit do a leap. Oh, yeah, I've been there a couple times. Yeah, like obviously the singalongs. Yeah, people
Saturday night 1 a.m. Yeah whole place screaming us lean beyond there. We go speaking the devil to it
And now we go yeah, then you got this is there one
Is there a song that's a no-go is our song that's ultimate skip? Yeah, so who let the dogs out is automatic no-go
You're putting the dogs back in yeah back in you're the sad that you're the pound I got
Someone would play it like you can play songs remotely. Yes, so people would play it remotely
Yeah, and just hound me no pun intended with it. It was just really ripped me up and so
That's a big one. So you're saying if I walk in here and I
put on who let the dogs out and I order two waters yeah I'm no good you're
kicking me right there good no you can stay but the songs getting skipped and
you can play as many times you want because the money's still going in the
machine yeah but it's getting skipped and no refunds any unwritten rules of the
bar Kelly-Anne's no any rules any unwritten rules Any unwritten rules? Oh, unwritten rules. Don't be a dick.
Yeah.
Treat everyone with respect.
And that's unfortunately really it.
That's alright.
That's the golden rule.
I wish we had some rules, you know?
But I feel like that's kind of it.
What's the proper way to gauge, like, this guy needs to be cut off?
How much politics do you need to be talking before you're like,
dude, you're out, see you later, see you tomorrow?
There's usually a couple of us here.
So there's usually a delegating phase
that goes on right beforehand.
There's a high council that lets it,
that deliberates who's too drunk.
They're like, this guy, you guys come together,
and I get what you said, yeah.
More often than not, you're more getting kicked out
for being like, it's like the crazies.
It's less like a belligerent man okay what's like one of the things that
you've dealt with like one of the crazier drugs that you've seen where
it's like look dude I wish you could say but after you got to get a copy of these
oh I mean I could tell you things in the past couple weeks that have happened
it's hard to pick one because like I said I I always like wish I wrote down
all these memories because I don't know, I feel like I'm unfazed
by some really crazy stuff going on.
I don't know, you've had people in the bathroom
wiping feces all over the walls and stuff.
Sorry about that, yeah, that was me.
Dive off, yeah, that's okay.
Graffiti.
Yeah, we just clean it up and keep it moving.
Yeah.
That's the bar business, baby.
Yeah, I mean, it really just like stuff like that. Obviously
Like I've had customers swing at me for no reason, you know
Trying to stuff for no reason. Yeah
Are you who's the muscle
Whoever needs to be at the time. Yeah, honestly, this is such a chillin place that really nothing ever happened
I used to work at and Delco, there was always fights and stuff.
It was always a good time. I always enjoyed those moments.
You never actually, like, I'm not getting my ass kicked.
Yeah, they used the bars as fight club in Delco to see who the biggest man was, to see who the best man was.
That's how they decided to marry in Delco.
First full fight club, forget about fight club.
So is there a lot of camaraderie between like you and other
bars in the city?
Have you noticed that you guys are kind of like bouncing off each other or is it?
It's pretty isolated.
No, yeah, absolutely.
I think we're all kind of in the same tune.
I mean, I don't look at really anything as competition.
I feel like, you know, it's almost like golfers, you know, you're playing your own game.
You know, if you're not doing a good job, everyone will notice. If you are, people will start to notice. And it's
kind of on you to like kind of like, you know, if you're a good bar, you'll be,
you'll remain a good bar. If you're a good owner, you'll remain a good owner.
I also think like for us and me, I love going out to the other bars and, you know,
hanging out with other bartenders and developing that camaraderie. Yeah, like I
said, I don't get anyone as competition competition. Like I wanna just all rise tides together.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
It's true, I mean a good bar,
a rising tide does lift all ships.
If you've got a bar like yours,
I've come in here before and it's like two pack
after an Eagles game, so I'll go to the Macrosses.
Or I'll go out to Urban, or I'll go down the streets
to Fairmount Tavern or something like that.
And that being said, I will look at other neighborhoods, technically, as like,
Fishtown is kind of like, I would look at that maybe as more of competition,
because I would want people to come to Fairmount than other neighborhoods.
That doesn't make sense.
And then I want them to bounce around while they're here and enjoy all that we have to offer.
How's the bar business?
Because I feel like as long as I've been 21, other than the pandemic,
like there hasn't been many like 2008s
where it's like, holy shit, we can't go to the bar
because we can't even afford food.
It's kind of like the bar business has kind of,
as long as I've been drinking, been pretty good
unless there's like a global pandemic.
As long as there's not a global pandemic,
you should be ready.
During the global pandemic,
I used to come to the makeshift outside spot
that you guys make.
Yeah, fuck yeah. Super spreaders. Yeah. outside spot that you guys make. Yeah, yeah.
Super spreaders.
Yeah.
That's what they call us.
Yeah.
That was my poor name.
But the bar business seems to be like it's...
Yeah, man.
Everything's been awesome.
I mean, I feel like we're pretty fortunate to be in a great spot.
This neighborhood has a lot of foot traffic.
There's kind of things going on at all different times of the day.
So we're definitely fortunate in that regard.
Obviously, you see some places
that weren't as fortunate over the past couple years. Yeah. It's still like, there's still
definitely lingering effects of COVID throughout the restaurant industry. I feel like like two,
three years later still. Yeah. I feel like you can still see it. Like you still see places that
maybe never financially recovered to now they're kind of closing. Yeah. Yeah. It's delayed. What
are some of the effects as the guys who are like,
don't understand like the barbers like,
is it like pricing on food?
Is it pricing on labor?
Like what's like?
Well, so definitely those both increased significantly.
Yeah, and they just haven't really ever come down?
Not food, like food fluctuates.
Labor will never go back down, which is also good.
People need to get paid.
True.
They don't need to make money.
That's also the goal.
It's why we all do it. Yeah.
I also think just a lot of people, like customers, are more conscious about their
spending. I think, you know, I think you see a lot of that. I think people are
more, like, COVID kind of taught people to be able to have fun without, you know,
going out boozing, which, you know, I never thought it like that.
Just booze somewhere else. I still booze at bars.
I picked up strong alcoholic places to drink while I couldn't have access to a bar.
It's kind of the entire move the entire time. Just find somewhere to drink.
Huh? Anything good?
Middle school parking lots. Nobody would know. Good. Yeah, it's good time.
Just hang over there.
Now what would you say to a six foot one tall ginger who says they like
boneless wings versus regular wings? What would you say to like a theoretical guy like that who says they like boneless wings vs regular wings?
What would you say to a theoretical guy like that?
I'd say, hey we got buff tenders here buddy.
Thank you dude.
With Kelly and sauce?
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Is there any, we'll keep you for a couple more questions, is there anything you've noticed
from being an owner, the difference between bar patrons in a Gen Z kind of area or the
boomer bar patron, are they interacting?
Is there any big notable differences?
You know what, I feel like we're lucky here,
where it seems like everyone ends up
in one big conversation together.
Yeah.
But you can definitely tell a severe difference
in just how they both act as bars.
Yeah.
But I feel like that also goes in being young,
learning the whole, you know,
being a good bar patron is easy,
truly everyone would do it.
I feel like it is a craft to be a good customer.
Sure.
Like that's one of my points of pride.
I feel like I'm a great customer
when I go out to other places.
But yeah, I feel like a place like this,
everyone's just kind of coming together, BSing about the same type of, you know, Philly sports, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, for sure like a place like this everyone's just kind of coming together
BS in about the same type of you know, Philly sports all that kind of stuff. Yeah, for sure. What's uh,
What's like? Historically the worst day
Every year is there is there a certain day? Is it a certain game? Is it a certain time frame like?
dude, honestly, I
Really do love my job.
So you're an eternal optimist.
I really don't have a bad day.
I even look forward to Darren
Expresses of the world. They're fun.
They're classic. I don't know.
And it's hilarious seeing people
throw green on and get blacked out.
Yeah, so I mean
I guess the worst day is when the Phillies
get bounced from the playoffs every year
Will go further on that because then the whole next week you have to sit here your job is to talk to people about that
About that and I just want to crawl into a hole, but gotta be present and gotta gotta have the tough conversations
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what is and you don't have to put a dollar figure on it obviously, but like
what does a Super Bowl run like the Eagles had, like what does that do for business?
It's just crazy how monumental it is. And obviously it's a lot of fun.
So then you can't even put a dollar amount on people making positive memories in your place and now always looking back and being,
oh, I watched the Super Bowl there, best day of my life, blah blah blah.
your place and now always looking back and being oh I watched the Super Bowl there, best day of my life, blah blah blah. The parade was our best day that we ever had.
It's right out, yeah like five, ten blocks down. I got here at 5 a.m. parade day, I
worked the whole day. There was already like 15 people in here going after it.
At 5 a.m. That's awesome. That's early on. Yeah that's the funny thing is like I didn't really
understand until I got into the bar business and getting into the sports
business being like how much money you make when like your local team goes on a run
Yeah, and it's not just sports businesses. It's not just bar businesses. It's restaurants. It's clothing
It's you know fucking trades of all
Everybody just it seems like makes more money because people are just in a better mood
They're going out every single day here to drink. Yeah here to drink it have fun
Yeah, so Dave and if you want to drink and have fun
Kelly-ann's baby
In spring garden. Yes, best wings in the city. If anybody watching this was like why should I come to this place?
What would you say? I just think we have a great time here. I don't think anyone takes things too seriously
I just think it's a it's a great place to get off the Broad Street line
Why not come in for a couple beers,
make some new friends, all that kind of good stuff.
I like that.
No one over here.
Take public transit.
I'm gonna grab one more.
If somebody's never been here before,
give me the best time, day,
and then if you come here, what to order.
Give me the quantities, whatever you think.
If you're coming here to hang out at Kelly Anne's,
what's the best time, day, and what you're ordering?
So I think Sundays are pretty electric here. We do a lot of music every
Sundays and that ends up being a real good time. What kind of music are we talking?
It's usually just like one or two guys. Acoustic, you know. Guys freestyle?
Yeah, you guys are actually going to play a set this Sunday. We're kind of in a game.
And then, yeah, so I think Sunday, I also am biased. I love drinking on Sunday afternoons. No, yeah
So Sunday afternoons, I would come start with an order of wings and then I'd probably dive into a knuckle sandwich or a
Or a pork sandwich. Anybody end of the night you get out of hand you get a fucking knuckle sandwich
Knuckle sandwich is a half cheesesteak half chicken cheesesteak. Nice. Got some banana peppers and fried onions
I like that. That's a Ken. that's a Ken Ken one is that a
Ken one yeah Ken is a is a legendary person that uh does he have any
affiliation with Kelly in that he's Joe manager okay he's Joe manager okay so he
does so but he is a legendary person legendary person love it
JP man thank you so much thank you guys appreciate it coming out yeah we saved
our asses dude from the rain yeah thank you beautiful rain beautiful weather that we're having really appreciate We appreciate you guys coming out. Yeah, thanks for having us. We saved our asses, dude, from the rain.
Yeah, thank you.
The beautiful rain, the beautiful weather that we're having.
Really appreciate it.
Appreciate you.
And you look dapper as hell, by the way.
You do.
You look great.
What's your first name?
Jules.
Jules.
Big Jules.
What are you doing for a living?
Union Electrician.
Union Electrician?
Are you private or what union?
Union, 351.
Hell yeah.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Right across the street's 98. So if you know local 98 Electricians, being right across the streets 98 so if you know local 98
electricians being right across the street in their territory you're on
enemy territory huh I am in is there a little bit of a guff going back and
forth what's that like it's like guff but like it's like not real you know I
mean everything's is aspirated on a job site like you just like to talk because
they're bringing up time like yeah
You're like wasting time like hey like to talk about the weather
Yeah, and be like it's gonna rain today like yeah rain coming in from the northwest
Yeah, a lot of astrologists. We all love each other in here. I wish like that's how we talk to like our enemies like
internationally
I'm talking about like like like He's like international
John, they're putting did a lot of shit I'll ask him about the fucking rain if he wants to keep that shit up exactly I got a word or two about so
Are you I mean in a general sense you have to specifically talk about your guys
What is like the the kind of animosity that grows between different unions like how do you guys find that you're not?
copasetic
One does better in all and all like, it's not really,
unions are all together on a job site.
Right.
We're actually all, we're all together against,
I don't even know, don't put this on,
like against the GC, general contractor.
We want to like, work together on their job site,
and then like, the GC is the one one that like you see in a porta potty
Like there's a gang bang to work. Like yeah, that was me. I was there
We gotta put it on I get what you're saying. I give her you're saying it's not like we love each other deep down
Okay, our true like passion is hate like yeah the people with white hats, right?
100% I mean, it's nothing different than being a white collar guy. Same shit.
And everybody in the bullpen is just chilling.
And they all just they all have camaraderie over hating their boss.
That's really what brings us together is hate.
Is that what it is? It really is.
Is that what it is?
I mean, it's all hate or boss.
It's all sort of.
White collar is no difference.
We just work in an office.
You work in the sun.
Like, what do you do?
Like send a passive email like, ah,
Ba-boom, brother. You just go to happy hour. You just bitch about your boss at happy hour. Like like what do you do like send the passive email like
You just bitch about your balls happy hour, yeah, you just like you hit him with like a per my last email That's how you cut fucking D a hit him in there per my last email is like you taking a wrench to somebody's head
Yes, and way collar my last email. Yeah, fuck yourself
With all the respect of course yeah the respect yeah that's fucking
crazy it's a big it's a different world but we're all together it's like like
middle-class people yeah well just hitting our bosses we've been doing this for how long like
yeah like we just we just had a couple carpenters on it what was it local 158
158 there's the carpenters down there. They were telling
us, I was pretty excited, but they were telling us about nicknames you get on the job site
and where it comes from. Do you have one on the job site and then where do you come from?
What do you got? It depends. It changes job site per job site. You have a nickname with
your contractor if you've been with them for a little while I've been with the same company for a long time right my my nickname on my
contract that I've been with for about seven years is booger booger okay booger
why booger with a hard R to my nose it's not rock it's like it just yeah I'm a
kid I'm a kid I'm a child at heart can't keep the fingers away I can't I'm just like it's bad. You ever eat one? You ever eat one? Tell us the truth. You ever eat a booger?
No, no, you're like you like digging. I eat the nickname. Okay, I eat the nickname. I have not
Yeah
Yeah, so you've eaten a booger did you kind of just confirm the right?
Yeah, yeah, so you've eaten a booger. Did you kind of just confirm the right?
You should not know the exact taste profile of a booger salty texture kind of nuts
Usually usually job sites for me. Yeah
It's like the long they think right at the long hair. Yeah, yeah, the long hair. It's like Bob. Yeah, I get pretty sick
It's pretty nice. Yeah, my nicknames. I'm not that loud. It's pretty nice. My nicknames are usually...
I mean, I like them.
Yeah, we had one guy that was nicknamed Cupcake
because he brought cupcakes his first day on the job.
Cupcake's usually like an apprentice,
like a fatter, more fucker man.
A man of weight, yeah.
I get pretty lucky with nicknames.
It's Fabio, usually Fabio or Granvio
or some type of like old time like old school old handsome
Yeah, beautiful romance there. Do you got you got long hair?
I lost my funniest thing in the world this guy goes. I'm gonna clam up on the podcast right when I get on
You're killing it. You're lighting it up. I am playing
Dude I'm a naturally clammy guy too. That's just us. It's a cross we bear. And your cross is you look like Jesus.
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, when you're heading down to Northeast Philly and you're in that section of the neighborhood.
I hear you.
And like sometimes when I get real red, like everybody thinks I'm Puerto Rican.
So I get like a Puerto Rican introduction with people. What's a Puerto Rican introduction look like?
a lot of maracas
Ja ja ja ja ja ja ja
Ja ja, that's how you laugh it's a different language
What's the what's the hot topic right now on the site?
Like what are you guys talking about in the news and stuff like what like right now?
It's it's like woman
It's like white woman Super Bowl right now with the Karen Reed trial and the P. Diddy trial and stuff
How can I relate that to the job site like what do you guys talk about the Phil's talking about the birds like or you?
Talk about like the tariffs
That shit's like that's like baseline
Flyers Sixers killing me.
Yeah.
What, number three pick?
Yeah.
All right, sorry.
Gotta build somewhere, Jesus.
No, I know, number three pick, but like,
yeah, like sports on a job site with a bunch of men
is like, that's baseline.
So that's why it gets real weird
on a job site because you like you dig deeper into it man yeah you spend eight
hours a day with this man who has it for I'll give you some more time yeah there's a man on a job site
the most hard man, crusty ass hands I fucking brick eight hours a day I can't stand it you don't understand
what I do with these hands I eat mortar for breakfast brick eight hours a day and then
they get on the phone with their wife or whatever hey baby hey baby and you're like You just fucking dogged me out for eight. Yeah. What are you talking about? This is great you have I?
Meet these men that are so hard
But then as soon as like their wife calls their kid calls yeah
They drop down to like
Yeah, yeah, hey dad. Yeah, they become lover boys
That's why we we are outwardly pussies. They're like everybody knows what we're doing when we come come
You're outwardly pussies, but like you guys are like cool
Wish I was like sitting by the water fountain being like yeah like fuck
You like you miss you want some water? You want some water cooler talk? I want want some watercolor talk. I want some watercolor talk, I heard about it.
What do we talk about the watercolor?
I walk into the port of John,
I'm taking a piss at the port of John,
we talk, as I'm taking a piss today,
literally I'm taking a piss,
this dude was like, dude you're pissing pretty hard.
Really?
That'd be an HR violation where we were
frying chicken back there.
And I'm like, remember back in the day
when we were like kids, you would piss harder to impress girls because they thought we had a bigger
debt. That's true. I've never heard that. No, I always, yes. I always pissed harder because I
would think they thought cause then they felt like, wow, this stream is insane. He's got to have a
huge talk. Dude, I sat down when I peed till I was 22 that's crazy.
This is news to me.
Bro there's a lot of statements in the port of eyes about you.
You never sat down when you took a take?
You're a clip farming right?
No dude I wake up and I sit down when I piss.
I'm not standing on pissing before eating it.
I'll sit down when I pee every time.
I have like an iota of shit.
I'll sit and piss for like a while and then try to pour one out.
Just one iota.
So wait, so you've never sat down while you've tink?
Not with the intention of pissing.
Hell no.
Not even like waking up in the middle of the night doing it?
No. If I sit I'm stuck.
See this is the problem with you blue collar guys, man.
What? You sat and pissed?
It's no shock.
Seven in the morning? I'm sleepy eyed dude. What do you do? You sat and pissed? No shot. 7 in the morning?
I'm a sleepy guy, dude.
I'm not, I'm not.
So you sat down, hold on.
No, this is crazy.
Bro, you're missing out on a major opportunity here.
This is crazy on the job site. This is not crazy in real life.
You sat down.
At 7 in the morning I went up.
What do you intend only to piss?
Yes.
That's exactly right.
That's why you're a black collar.
That's why you're a black collar.
See this is-
That is crazy!
This is what the blue collar boys are like, man.
They're like, anything you do that's like not what they think about, you're just a huge pussy.
Yup. That's exactly right.
And you guys-
No, no, no. I don't think you're a pussy. I think you are a pussy.
Oh, okay. With the emphasis.
Jesus Christ!
Dude, you're missing out. Bro, with long hair, if you sat down while you tink you could you can like sweep it behind you
Buddy this is why you guys lose out on so much shit be time out
So much things just being like I can't do that because someone's gonna call me gay
No, I don't I don't think I'm coming you guys are you called nobody worries about being called gay more than you guys. Yeah, that's true
You're forcing the United States 100% you're forcing my statement. Yes, our words not your I think I think it's more
Like it's in my blood. I don't think it's being blue-collar blood. Yeah
My brother's union my whole family's union. I
Yeah, you have my brothers union my whole family's unit I will I'm you you're throwing through brothers your father would put you up there this microphone how union I am
I'm so you would have a good option if your father called win that you were sitting on the toilet at seven in the
Morning while you're pissing in the morning every guy does it did you got to try it 100% like it'll be a secret between us
My heart is beating just from hearing you say that
It'll be a secret between us. My heart is beating just from hearing you say that
Nah, dude, my dad would fucking sit piss or piss sitting down with his legs crossed. That's a real man. Are you serious though? I don't know. I've never checked but I just would have said so
What's that? Is your pops around? He's around. He's two moms. He's actually he's been in the back room right now
He's kind of a gay guy to be totally honest, you know, but he's a good dude
Good dude? Good dude. I love that. Good, strong guy. I like coming from a good family then.
Well let me ask you, because you seem like you have the intel and you're willing to share. Are dudes jacking off on the job site?
You don't have to give any names. You've heard stories, you've heard rumors. There's had to be some people. Somebody's got to be. That is, I heard stories. Yeah.
had to be some people. Somebody's gotta be.
That is, I heard stories.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, do I know for a fact?
Nah, but did I ever think about cranking one pocket?
Of course.
100%, dude.
Why would, imagine like, all right,
let me break it down for you.
Bro, work from home has changed the game.
I wish I could.
I wish I could.
Don't break it down too much,
you'll start jacking off, dude.
We'll go to a party right now and you can break it down.
I can break it down for you.
We go out late and we wake up early.
Yes.
Okay, so imagine I'm with someone I met the night before at 3 o'clock and I gotta get
up at 4.30.
What do you think is gonna happen?
Like, hey, you're gonna send me a picture of Tiz and I'm gonna try to...
How are you supposed to lay brick when you get a picture like that? When you're bricked up. You can't lay brick when you're bricked. I don't lay brick, I'm gonna try to try how are you just lay brick when you get a
picture when you're bricked up I don't break when you break I'm an electrician
true how you supposed to cobble a wire together when you get your wires yeah
true when your wires are crossed I never I never did it I never did it but I've
heard stories about people I mean driving to work course yeah we got a
worry though haven't I think actually going back to blue collar, white collar,
I think jacking off at a white collar job would be more wild.
It's crazy.
No, but it's crazier.
You guys have a porta potty.
Can I break you down for it right now?
I have a porta potty with shit up to here.
You all got a perfect basket.
With six other stalls that we gotta be like quiet or wait for someone to walk in.
They're stuck together. Sometimes there's a pisser and a shitter in the same thing
and back to back. Do you understand that? Are you kidding me? Swear to God. All right
this and this guy doesn't want to piss sitting down. That's what I'm saying.
That's the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life. That's what I'm saying dude. Cause you have trucks.
I press screen to make it like this guy's dick thing. You guys got trucks dude you
could jack off in the bed of a truck any time you want.
You could lay down, you could face Mecca,
you could make everything red as rain.
I don't know about a truck though.
Some people are blue collar, like not truck guys,
and there's blue collar truck guys.
Yeah, what do you got?
2025 Camry.
You still make Camrys nowadays? You might be you might be like, I drive a lot for work.
Why would I drive?
Camry still pulling out cars.
Camrys are nice.
I've never seen a Camry over 2020 2025 Camry hybrid in the parking lot.
Right.
I drove it right here.
That's good.
That's good good this guy's
getting down in his Toyota hybrid camera yeah I don't say it on a job I swear
to God you don't tell me what you drive a hybrid camera. What's that get to the
gallon? I think it's got like a 13 hour battery yeah. Go fuck yourself. Oh, shit. Oh, dude.
Oh, dude.
Remember, this guy clams up on podcasts.
Yeah, he never clams down your life, dude.
That's still in ClamValor, dude.
I told you.
We are.
I watched a couple of your videos.
We're an RFK brain worm, dude.
Just podcasting.
Yeah, really.
Your tip-notes are really good.
Thank you, bro.
You're the man, dude.
I feel like you're trying.
And that's what I respect, dad.
Oh, thank you.
You work hard for that shit.
Like, it's hard to get like around here.
It's, you're putting for likes every single day of the week.
Yeah.
You do like, you do a lot of things
to work hard to make your podcast work,
to make your TikTok work.
And that's pretty respectful.
Yeah, but now we're on the job site.
I have to kick you off for being a little gay.
Yeah, am I telling you something crazy?
I posted one TikTok and I got four million views
and like one million likes.
Oh that shit. Swear to God.
What did you post?
My lunch.
How bad was your lunch? Do you have it on you right now?
It was amazing.
No, I don't have my lunch from four months ago.
You're too literal.
They're too literal.
Full circle the lunch was clams.
My girlfriend would make my lunch. She's a back. No, my girlfriend would make my lunch.
She's a high fashion model.
And she would make my lunch.
Not the bra.
She would make my lunch.
She would make my lunch.
And one time I just posted.
You can look it up right now.
I just posted it.
And then it went viral.
I had a lot of people reach out.
And then I posted another one.
Viral again.
Viral again.
It's pork roll egg and cheese is my app.
I'm pretty excited about this, dude.
So you just posted your lunch.
That's where to go.
And people were just going nuts.
What it was was in the fashion community.
A lot of people in the fashion nurses, they do color man.
And it went viral multiple times. There we go. We'll spice it into the episode. Can I just pull up a little more? I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a true color man and I'm a I kept it going because I was viral multiple times. The boys on the job site probably crushed you.
No, they crushed me.
You got long hair.
You're posting TikToks.
Sure, you're posting it, dude.
I am literally the epitome of...
Pissing, sitting down.
Yeah.
You're one of us, dude.
No matter how far you try to run from us,
we'll bring you back in.
That was your pissing, sitting down.
618,000 views, 850.
Dude, you even know how to pin.
He's got a couple in the dress, too.
Scroll through.
Scroll through. He did pin. Scroll through. Dude, this is the most peeing, sitting down thing of all time. I don't do you even know how to pin he's got a couple of the dress to go through Pin
This is the most peeing sitting down thing of all time you did a PO
Pissing while the video is being recorded. I understand it, but scroll through I got more views in your entire podcast
It's just by posting my lunch
Down actually down probably haven't
Yeah, it's sitting down actually and now probably haven't
Well, that's a pretty good one. That's a pretty good one. I know because you just keep pulling out fucking designer bags, dude How much is your well spending on designer shit? No, it's a
so what how it started was a
It was like the bag that held the bag, right? Yeah, and she makes great lunches. Shout out my girlfriend. What's she make?
Today she made like enchiladas, packed me. Like it's like, have you ever seen a Spanish
wife make her Spanish husband lunch? I can't say I have. I have not. I have a wife. Well,
you don't understand. It's crazy. How do you a little one of those the Latino ladies? I got I got a white lady who's a little lippy going from an electrician. Oh lady. That's lippy. Yeah
How do I turn her Mexican or whatever?
Well, she is I mean to say I like a good conversation, but that's what I do straight up
Let me let me what do you mean lippy? It's described lippy. She's funnier than I am
She gives me guff and it cuts me down. She's funner than you?
Yeah, it cuts me down pretty often.
Fuck yeah.
I get pissed while you sit.
So does she, to be fair.
I see her doing it.
I'm like, I thought that was cool, but you know.
That's pretty sweet though.
Having that lunch is packed is nice.
Dude, you understand.
That's like the golden ticket.
I can walk on a job so I'd be like this
Like what'd you have like my wife didn't pack me nothing. I'm like
So all the union guys getting their lunches packed
Most most but like you kind of like you kind of like talk shit like my girlfriend's like tell the boys that I made
Yeah But yeah, most of us are girlfriends are staying like girlfriends are wise. Yeah, I mean it was different life like 10 years
That's very white collar of you guys
You're one of us did no matter how far you are. You're one of us
You started off as a grizzled blue collar electric never started as grizzled
First of all, I started this conversation saying I wish I was like how that's true, but you are still grizzled blue-collar baby
Grizzled and then you just came to us as you're going to POV
Yeah, I would say so after this conversation no doubt. I wore Birkenstocks yesterday, dude. There's no grizzle whatsoever here
I have a pad in right now, dude
That's fault
What about me?
What's your life like right now?
Content?
Fuck you man.
I saw you at
Garage
South Philly
Like a year ago.
I saw you.
Anything else you want to ask before we get out of here?
Any parting words about guys who might want to get
into like the Union craft or like things like that.
Anything that you would advise?
Absolutely.
Do you want to make $110 an hour?
Yes.
I'd like to.
Your podcast is great.
Your content's great.
Thank you.
I love it.
Did you have fun here?
It's a YUP so I can't even speak on you. That's alright, we'll get there next time. I haven't seen
it, not surely, but I haven't seen it. Thank you for having me, man. Thanks for coming
on, man. You're fucking awesome, you're the man. Thank you, man. Were you college graduated
or just high school? No, what we all used to do, high school become a junkie become blue
collar life cycle of a more productive than the life cycle of the unit I love
that all right who do we got here what's your name
Maddie Maddie with the IE very nice Do you look at women with the Y a little differently?
No.
Yeah, you do.
I just like how I spell it better.
So you do.
So I don't look at them, I just think they're worse than me.
Yeah, I got it, yeah, very nice.
I think they're more inferior than I am.
But I'm a Madison too, not a Madeline.
Yeah, well I'm in like the male camp
where I'm a Matt with a Maddie, so I'm an M-A-T-T-Y.
You're the boy version of my name.
That's right, I think so.
Is that right?
Probably.
It's gotta be.
I always thought it was like Matilda was my girl name.
What?
Matilda?
You never heard of Matilda?
I know, I know the name.
I don't know, I'm picking it up.
For you to say Matilda over Madison is crazy.
You might be right.
All right, we'll come back to the drawing board.
I agree with you on that one.
I think you are more of your boy name being Matilda
I think so too. I think a Maddie would be
What would that be in a man's?
Yeah, but I think you're D. Yeah, I think of Madison also Madison's kind of like a cooler name
I always thought Madison was a cooler name like Matthew is kind of like a dork biblical name
I've never been able to get there as like Madison's
Matthew is kind of like a dork biblical name. I've never been able to get there as like,
magical. Madison's okay,
but like a lot of girls are named Madison.
Well, you were probably like me, my name's Kyle.
So like you were in the 90s, babies books.
Everyone's name's Kyle.
And everyone's name's Kyle now.
I knew like maybe two Kyles growing up.
Well, yeah.
And now I know like 15 Kyles.
Yeah.
True.
My dad wanted to name me Carly,
because his name's Carl.
Got it.
But my mom didn't want him to have, me to have his first name and last name.
I think that's a fair argument by your mother.
Right?
Yeah.
I like Carl.
Because my mother's name was Karen, and my dad's name was Bob.
And I'd be naming like, I want to name her Barbara, if I was a girl.
I think Karen and Bob, for us, is Kyle.
If Karen and Bob are going to name a kid, it's going to be Kyle.
Yeah, every time.
Otherwise it's Bob, dude.
You had two choices, dude. It was Bob or Kyle.
You kind of landed on the better one, to be totally frank with you, dude.
I'm sitting here talking about fucking Matilda.
I don't even know what that lady is.
I'm losing my mind.
I'm talking about Bob and Karen, which is the most Irish Catholic, two sounding people of all time. Oh, yeah, it's an original
back in the
1970s 60s name that we are just two names that have just gone almost extinct
That's a good point the names kind of have to come together like what's your mom's name?
Eileen Eileen and Carl wait made of Madison. Wait, I told everyone this okay, so, you know the movie up. Yeah
Wait, I told everyone this. So you know the movie Up? Yeah.
Don't make it sad.
No, it's not sad.
Your house didn't float away with a bunch of balloons?
I wish. But, Carl is the old guy in the film.
If you look at the mailbox of him and his ex-wife, it's Carl and Ellie.
Oh, not ex-wife. She died.
She died as his ex-wife. She died. She died. She died as ex-wife. She died as ex-wife.
No, no.
Technically.
Why'd you guys split up?
She fucking died.
Yeah.
She died.
No.
Wait.
There's, no, not shot.
Like the one shot in the film.
Like, ex-wife.
No, yeah.
The mailbox they have in front of the house.
It says Ellie.
It says Carl and Ellie.
That's my mom's nickname is Ellie. Got it. So my parents are Carl and Ellie. We got there. So you're that little fucking kid in the house. It says Ellie. It says Carl and Ellie. That's my mom's nickname is Ellie.
So my parents are Carl and Ellie.
We got there.
So you're that little fucking kid in the movie.
You're that little guy who hangs out with them.
Okay, yeah.
We just were fixated on the fact that calling
a dead wife the ex-wife is one of the craziest
things I've ever heard.
That is crazy.
But I hear where you're at, no problem.
So uh.
You refer to them as widows.
Those widows, the black widows.
That's their pronouns.
Yeah, I got bit by a black widow.
She was at a bus station.
So you bartend here at Kelly Anne's?
I do.
How's that going?
I love it.
How long?
Like a year and a half so far.
So your roles will be new.
Yeah.
Still learning the tricks of the trade of Kelly Anne's.
What have you learned now that you wish you knew
on your first day?
What have you learned now that you wish you knew on your first day?
That the people are nice I would say. You came in here with like a dickhead attitude.
April actually the one that's bartending now.
Yeah.
She, we worked together in Delaware County at Barnaby's.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Yeah, Habertown, Barnaby's Habertown.
Sure, so for those that don't know and I know you, he's a South Jersey guy.
Okay.
Kelly Ains, Delco is a feeder system to Kelly Ains,
basically.
It seems that way, yeah, it seems.
So if Visitation BVM was going to like Bonner or O'Hara.
That's where I graduated from, O'Hara.
Delco comes to Kelly Ains.
Okay, that makes sense.
Well, the workers here are either from South Jersey
or Delaware County, yeah. Really now, yeah the workers here are either from South Jersey or Delaware County.
Really now?
Well, Ken is from South Jersey.
Nobody wants to admit, but Delco and South Jersey
are the same place in different fonts.
And Northeast is just their white trash cousins.
Northeast is like your crazy Ukrainian cousin who,
yeah, I totally agree with that.
If your parents died in Northeast Philly,
you got all their money you mean your
experience right yeah you moved out to South Jersey with Delka that's right
exactly right and it is a big deal a lot of people in South Jersey will brag
about how they back like they fucking came off Ellis Island they're like, we had no idea. We got out of Mayfair, dude. I'm going to say the same thing I'll tell people.
I'm like, I just moved to the city.
They're like, where are you from?
I'm like, Delaware County.
Delaware County, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That huge move.
Delco's a whole new thing.
I mean, you guys, are you the pope?
Is Delco, you guys have the pope?
That's your guy, right?
Villanova, yeah.
Is that the same thing?
We've been getting a lot of fights
by those recently.
Villanova's like the main line, I think.
But it's technically Delco.
Is it?
And that's what we fight with people all the time about.
Because you could-
Is that technically Delco?
It's Radner.
OK.
True, true, true.
You could literally take a rock and throw it
to Monko from Villanova.
But you know, Delco loves to claim Delco.
So once you're in Delco, you're just rooted in Delco.
Yeah.
But main line, Monco.
Yeah.
Being from Delco, did you ever have the accent?
You don't seem to have the Delco accent at all.
No, the only thing I need to know if people say rotisserie chicken.
Rotisserie chicken.
It came out when you said rotisserie chicken.
Too many syllables for a Delco person's brain.
I think that's the Delco thing, rotisserie chicken.
What do you get from Ritas? What do you usually, what's the thing you order from?
I like water ice.
Okay, so water still stays. I like rotisserie.
Which you used to write with that came in a Crayola box. What? Which you used to write with that came in a Crayola box. What do you usually, what's the thing you order from? Oh, like, water ice? Okay, so water still stays, okay, yeah. I like we're just right.
What'd you used to write with that came in a Crayola box?
What?
What'd you used to write with that came in a Crayola box?
Crown?
Alright, so she says crown.
Crown, royal, that's it, yeah.
What do you say?
Crayon.
Crayon, crown.
I avoid the word altogether, because people ask questions like this, like, is it Crayon or Crown?
And people get mad.
They get angry, yeah.
If you say it wrong, like, wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I say it wrong every single time. What do you, is it, wait, what do you say? I don't say it, I skip the word entirely. Oh, yeah we're all like wrong. Yeah. Yeah, and I said wrong every single time
What do you I don't say I skipped the word entirely. I'm a colored pencil kind of guy, you know
I just go right that's a graduated kind of
That's exactly right
So we got asked so you're bartending here we have a lot of bartender questions
You're our first like full-on bartender. Okay. All right, so you started working here. You're kind of getting used to the whole thing
How do you?
Deliberate between this guy's too fucked up or this person's right on the edge
like what's your what's your kind of like your personal marker in your head if
They want if they're being
They're not looking at you. Yeah, it's just like you can tell when no one's home What if they're being, they're not looking at you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like, you can tell when no one's home.
What if they're looking at you with their head?
But they're cross-eyed.
Like, no.
What if they're staring at you, but their pupils
are looking at their nose?
I worked the day of the Super Bowl parade.
Got it.
Oh my god.
And the morning.
And when our shift was done at like 6, I was like all,
so no, we keep in at 6 AM. That's all right. And our shift was done at like six, I was like, so no, we came in at six a.m.
And our shift was done at six p.m.
And literally everyone's eyes are like beet red.
Like they're talking to you, but they're not talking to you.
Yeah, by six p.m.
Yeah, wow.
Yeah.
Crazy.
And that's when you're just like, they're done.
And like, it's like actually when they ask for a drink
and you just walk away from them
They don't even know that they asked that's a good point
I'm not even like being like you're done cutting you off
I just don't even give them another drink and they don't know yeah that they're being ignored. That's good
They literally don't they don't know but if you have to cut them off
Do you have like an intro line of like I think you're good like what's your nice way to like not?
I just go here's a water if you can just drink this for me right now yeah I've gotten
so many water offers at bars I've been to to be totally honest yeah makes sense
some people were like chug it or they'll be like oh no I'm like if you get
aquaphobic that's how you know you're too far if you have like rabies syndrome
that you're getting you've been drinking too much we have like bags of chips so
like here's a chance so the, here's a chip, like.
So the way to cut off is obviously like set in stone.
Are you, like what's like your, when you're trying to get a good tip,
like what's your move?
Like do you have any kind of cool shit you do, any tricks?
No, no, I can't like do like the cool like bottle stuff.
I always tell, I always tell, you guys interview JP.
Yeah.
I always tell JP, I was like, I don't have to do anything,
I just have to smile, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's it. That's it. That's kind of sick, right?
Is it just like being a female bartender? You guys are just you're locked in and you know, people more nice to the female bartender
Oh, I can imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
like
Have you seen like dudes that you work with or like one guy's nice to you and he goes to him and he's like
Hey dumbass, I'd love a state sign right now. We want Maddie. Yes
Literally, so we were just like well, I was talking like she's my bartender like we all work together
Yeah, like whatever. Yeah, but yeah, you don't we don't have to do much here besides that be nice and like smile
In April when we work together, I'm like, we have to wear matching outfits.
Oh, get the people going.
And they love it.
Like thing one, thing two shit?
Yeah, well we're like matching overalls.
Which people like.
I love that, yeah.
Right?
I envy that, dude.
If you came into a bar and you saw me and her
wearing matching overalls.
It would do nothing.
What?
It would do nothing for me.
I would be excited, dude.
You wouldn't be like, they're both wearing overalls? nothing. What it would do nothing for me
I can count the 15
No
I've suggested matching outfits on the goddamn
Big cute as hell dude, I'll do my fucking eyebrows. People love it.
I don't care.
Yeah, let's let it rip.
They love it.
I agree.
What are you, a fucking band?
Like more abs?
I'm literally known, like in Kellyann's,
like to wear matching outfits.
Like I'll find out who I'm working with.
I'll be like, we have to wear the same shirt.
Oh, we have to.
I can't imagine if I was working at Founding Fathers
and some person came up to me and was like
Or texted me before the shift was like we have to wear matching outfits. I would say I'm not coming in. Oh, come on
Would be so cute as hell dude
It would be the most adorable thing if you and I had the same shirt
Maybe like we're like a sundress you and I couple sundresses are our fans would love it. Yeah
Yeah, that's a good point yeah, yeah, that's all yeah, we got one fair there that's crazy
That's crazy. I mean yeah, like if two dudes were doing it. They'd be like
All right, you know what you fucked yourself I'm wearing overalls the next episode they have fun with that I'm wearing You know what you fucked yourself. I'm wearing overalls the next episode do have fun with that
I'm wearing nothing underneath either
Overalls it's just like at a place like Kelly Anne's having like
theme night is just insane
Until you do it until you do it today. It's like you guys are like in kindergarten class
It's like we're having theme night. Everyone wears a purple shirt today.
Like those theme nights that you used to have in grade school.
I'm gonna start getting in, yeah.
No, you have to.
I would actually go.
What is the craziest you guys have ever gotten
on your outfits?
Like what, like matching ones?
Yeah, I mean, what do you get so crazy?
It's like, hey, on Sunday when the Eagles are playing,
we're both gonna wear Eagles jerseys?
We're wearing tuxedos ladies
Tuxedos now tuxedos would be funny. That'd be nice
Why not they know they can they can take it a political stance on if girls are
You can even do it in like a subtle way like I work Sunday nights
Mm-hmm, so I work like most Eagles games. Yeah, but overalls I feel like when the sun's up, that's cool.
It's the best time to wear an overall.
And then overalls at night gets a little weird.
Yeah, I agree with that.
That's fair.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Well, I wasn't going to say that.
No overalls.
I'm just trying to tell you what the people think here.
It's just like subtly matching.
For the Eagles, the Super Bowl day like actual Super Bowl.
What'd you guys wear? Surprise us. I texted a guy I work with, I was like I'm gonna buy her shirts.
You don't worry about it, I'm gonna buy it. But it wasn't like complete matching. was we each had... Let me guess, hold on, let me guess. Eagle shirts.
No way.
No way.
No way.
So you are on board, dude.
Yes, you're on board.
It was Saquon Barkley with like, when he was like...
Wait, what was his name?
Saquon Barkley.
There you go.
It was Saquon Barkley.
Saquon Barkley.
Delco does eke out a little bit.
It does, it comes out randomly.
You can't get away from it.
It is, it's like a It is it's like when I say
X let me ask you a question
Yeah, it sneaks up on you sneaks up on you and you're when you're just when you're talking and I feel like yeah
You like the delco you're like, oh because I don't think you really have a delco accent
But then you get going you get your you get your revved up and then you're like, oh
You're revved up and then you're like, oh. Here it comes.
I'm kinda curious about,
oh god, my phone keeps kill me.
As a bartender, is there any unsaid beef
between you guys and the servers?
No, we don't have servers.
No servers, so you are, oh.
So what about like, what about like,
Barnabas when you used to work in Delco?
Yeah, so the, in Delco, the bartenders
always acted like they were better than everyone.
They're like, better. Just like, I'm a bartender, you're not.
Yeah, bartenders, like, when I first started...
They can become assholes.
When I first started bar backing, bartenders do have this sense of arrogance about them.
That it's kind of like, I'm better than you.
Because you are making a lot more money than the bar backs are.
But it's weird to have, like, if you're 25 and you're a bartender, you're beefing with an 18 year old server.
It's kind of crazy.
I've been there dude, I'm not above that.
It's like when I was serving a bar to be, I'd be like, I need my drink made.
I'd be like, I have a full bar.
I'd be like, no you don't.
Yes.
But then Jimmy Baller beats with Anthony Edwards and that's what we call competition.
It's all just making people better.
It's iron sharpening iron is what they're saying to be totally honest.
Here is awesome because during the day we are supposed to wait on the tables, like come out on the bar.
But we only have in the morning it's just one person and at night there's two people.
So there's no bartenders and servers we're just
which is my preferred yeah my preferred way to do it I love full service it's
the best I didn't like always being a customer having full service because
sometimes people get swamped with the bar and then it lose out on the table
tell people like yeah I like we own people and then if I know we're gonna
get busy if it's like a Saturday night, Friday night, into like the evening to like night night,
I like tell people,
if I don't come up to you, it's because I can't.
So just like get my attention.
Like, it's not like, it's not because I'm ignoring you.
Like, you can yell at me, but like, there's no way,
like if there's like a group of people,
it's just like a small bar.
So people just hang out out in the middle.
Like I'm not gonna stress myself out
with carrying five drinks to a table.
Yeah, well the good thing about this place being so small
is like when you come to a table,
you always feel like you can go to the bar and just order.
Because it's literally one step away.
The best people are, they're like,
I can just meet you right there.
So I'm like, oh, thank you.
What's the, like if you're a patron here? What's a good move to flag down the bartender without being a rude ass?
What's a good like what's the move is there a word is there something we could say in particular?
the worst is
Hey, bitch, that's probably pretty bad. It's probably yeah
Oh like a confused wave.
What about hand up but no wave?
Two fingers?
Yeah, that's fine.
You go three or four, it's kind of a wave down though.
The people, what can make me upset
is when people, they'll come to the bar,
they're like, can I have a Miller light?
And the Miller light's right behind me. behind me I literally go get it turn around they're
zooming off to their table
that's just bad customer flow yeah that's crazy that's crazy yeah
one second ahead of me and then you would have had your beer now I have to either travel through this like
whole thing like see a people or somehow wave you down here's one that used to piss me off
person orders one drink closes out every time that's me on the credit card that's
me every time yeah are you serious because it might not like wait sometimes
if people do it if I notice they're like it's like three yes in a row they did it
you just want to keep it open like I give you your card back to you.
Bars don't even keep the cards anymore.
Yeah, true.
They give it right back to you.
And they're like, no, close it out.
I'm like, all right.
And then they always get another one right away.
It's the biggest pet peeve of mine.
Why would you do it?
Before we give the cards back,
the biggest pet peeve of mine is I'll like make,
people are like, keep it open.
I'll make eye contact with them.
I'm like, I'll give you your card.
I'm doing hand motions'll give you your card
Right back to you. Did you just explain you're doing hand motion? There's a there's video cameras. They'll see
I'll give it right back to you. I turn around swiping. They're gone. Yeah
That one's crazy. You said all right. Thank you
Yeah, that's an insane move.
I would, at least if I keep closing.
I mean, personally, when I close one over the other,
to me, I'm like, I'm stopping myself from drinking a lot.
If I close out now, I won't keep drinking.
But then I'll keep going.
But I know.
There's an internal conflict happening.
You're a monster.
You're never gonna stop yourself from drinking.
Yeah, I'm not proud of it, but that's the truth of the
matter is that in my head, I'm like, if I close out right
now, I won't get another one.
Then I have to go back out there and bother the bartender,
open it again.
But you know.
I know and I don't think I'm changing.
We're talking about a guy who one time didn't wanna buy
something but bought it because he just didn't wanna,
he didn't wanna put the person out by returning it.
Yeah, I panicked a little bit.
I was buying my girlfriend.
But not even by buying it. it returning it back to where it
Thank you, I really don't thank you. I really don't just do it. I'm saying I don't
And we get our Amazon packages set here
No one's gonna be here so like
Whatever so I open it, and he starts laughing.
I was like, I know, it doesn't look like this
when I ordered it.
Like, no, it's not.
And he literally, but I was sure,
like one of them was like, guys, do you like this?
I was like, JP.
He was like, I know, it smells the best, but.
But that's good.
That's what we need more of.
But I'll never return it.
Yeah, people in the bar should be like,
we should do more of that, where it's like, you know what?
Before we introduce a bill into legislation,
we should go to a bar and be like,
stuff a bar and be like, you 50 people here,
do you like this?
Like this, no, actually fair.
And if the majority don't, you know what, fine.
Fair, fair.
Yeah, it's a good move from the Roman,
the New Age Coliseum.
I just moved apartments. You know what? Fine. Stay out there. Nice. Yeah, it's a good move. The Roman Coliseum. The New Age Coliseum.
I just moved apartments.
You should have asked everybody what they thought of them.
I always had roommates. This is my first time moving by myself.
Congratulations. Thank you.
I said it. He did.
So congrats. Happy 4th. That's awesome. Thank you.
Fuck yeah.
I bought a new air fryer.
Oh yeah, that's a good time. It was never mine, I just had an air fryer.
And you need an air fryer.
You do.
In today's day and age.
Actually, you actually need one.
You truly do, yeah.
And, uh, I bought, I went on Amazon, blah blah blah.
I bought the Paris Hilton air fryer.
Okay, that's a little wild.
Cause it was pink, it was like, it was beautiful pink.
I read the reviews before I bought it, like...
Let me send a little bit closer now.
Sorry.
Yeah, you're good.
Then it's like, uh...
Now you can hear it, it feels nice, right? Uh, now? Sorry. Yeah, you're good. That is like,
Now you can hear it, feels nice, right?
Yeah.
There you go, we're in the ears now, dude.
I forgot I was, I'm just talking about this air fryer
because I'm passionate about it.
That's good, if you forgot, no, please keep going.
Harris Hilton Air Fryer.
It's just this beautiful pink, and so I got it sent here,
and it's in this big box that says like,
you know Paris Hilton, she says like, that's hot.
Of course.
So on the box it says like, that's hot.
Paris Hilton Air Fryer, it, that's hot. Of course. So on the box it says like, that's hot. Paris Hilton air fryer.
It's in like this like pink box.
And Ken texts me, he's like, Paris Hilton air fryer, huh?
I was like, yeah, I'll get it later.
Blah, blah.
Does it say that's hot when it's done?
No.
What a missed opportunity, dude.
Yeah, that'd be so sick.
That would be huge.
Yeah, that's a good move.
Yeah, that would have been huge. But me be huge. Yeah, that's a good move. Yeah, that would have been huge.
But me and JP worked Tuesday night together
when I got delivered.
And I was looking, I was like, do you think it's good?
Like really?
Like blah blah blah.
He's like, should we test it out?
Test it out.
2 a.m. I had to shoot the videos, it's hilarious.
We'll be spying some in.
But we like bug in the air fryer.
He's like, what should we do?
I'm like, well, Friar's a two basic. He we like plug in the air fryer. He's like, what should we do? I'm like, well, fries are too basic.
He gets wings, like the award winning wings.
It's hilarious.
Three time chance.
Yeah, well deserved three time chance.
100% bangin'.
And it's 2 a.m.
We're making wings in the Paris Hilton air fryer.
And he comes out, he's mixing them,
and we take them out and like, all right,
let's try them bangin
Yeah, I'm sure bang. I'm sure I'm sure so Paris still take a job. There's some world on did she did good
There's a terrace on the piece. She thinks she pays terrace on the
Get out the imports on the imports on the hilton did
Now I'm kind of curious because I I met my girlfriend my girlfriend's a bartender and I got I got her number
While I was a patron it's a taproom in Hanfield
So I'm curious the success rate of a dude at this bar if he hits you with like nice tip and then writes the number
Maybe not you specifically how many times have you seen that actually works for our listeners who are a lot of lonely gentlemen
A lot of lonely gentlemen a lot of lonely gentlemen
Well that work would come to Kelly ands and tip you well, but also write their number number. Yeah
I
For myself it can work. I'd like it depends. Yeah
Like if they're a nice or like the tip
What if he's like what if he's one of the hottest guys you ever, what if like Timothy Chalamet walks in
and there's a $140 bar bill, he tips you $8
and he writes his number.
No, yeah, no.
You're nothing, no.
So that, it doesn't even matter.
Because then it's like, he can't be like that nice
of a person.
Got it.
That's a good point, that's fair.
If you're trying to like, if there's guys out there
that are trying to like. it's like embarrassing how many
times that happens when people are like, it's pretty often now. All like, yeah, all
the time. Yeah. And then they'll give you literally like $5 on like, and they'll
just talk to you off the entire night. Yeah. And you're like, Oh, I'm going to,
I'm going to get a great tip. And then you get one and you're like, yeah,
they're start up. People don't understand bartenders.
We're not flirting with you.
We're actually just being nice and trying to make money.
That's most dudes.
Most dudes have a hard time delineating
between all these girls wants to fuck me pretty bad
or she's just doing her job and I need to chill.
What happened to just being nice to people?
Well, unfortunately.
Everyone just takes us to the next level, especially men. just like takes us to like the next level, especially
imagine. Yeah, I can imagine. I could be like, you want to drink? Yeah. And they're like, well, if you're
doing a shoulder shake, you gotta retract that. That's crazy. That's crazy. If I saw a girl shake her
shoulders, I might fucking call her dad and be like, can I have her hand in marriage right there? I agree
with whoever left your number last. Who's probably watching this and being like fuck you bitch
All right, you were shaking your fucking shoulders on me
So you were anti a patron no
Okay, so shit were you eat?
And certain circumstances
Did I sure did I not sure that's where you eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there you go. What's the price? Did that, did I short, did I not short? That's kind of where you eat. I shat, well I ate it.
Yeah, that's true.
Did I, okay, yeah.
We've all been there.
I did have those Kellyann wings
in that Paris Hilton air fryer.
That'll do it every time, yeah, of course.
100%.
Okay.
So, case by case basis.
Yeah.
It depends.
It depends.
You get the vibe off of it.
Have you ever dated a customer?
Barnaby's you had to have.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. How'd that work out?
Not good.
Yeah, never does.
That sounds about right.
Didn't work there anymore.
A couple Delco guys with buzz cuts and shape ups,
they're wearing like a-
Dude, they all look the same.
Yeah, they're wearing a baggy Carhartt t-shirt.
When it doesn't work out, do they come into the bar?
Yeah.
They still come into the bar?
Well, yeah, but also like,
that's why you're not supposed to like,
Fuck us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, you're not supposed to like, shit where you eat. Fuck us.
Yeah yeah yeah.
So it's like you don't want to make the bar lose customers.
But that's crazy, you know what, here's where I'm gonna defend you where it's like if I
dated a bartender and it was one of my favorite bars that I went to and we broke up or it
ended terribly, even a situation ship, I would never go back to that bar.
I would not be able to.
That's why I think you just have to- Some people have would not be able to that's why I think
It's either I mean you go and in my situation I met the bartender somehow it worked out and now we have to get married There's really no other choice
No, I mean I still go I mean, you know, I have no shame
I'll go there. I'll get fucked up and I'll hit on the other bartender. We're like
Moving down the assembly line shorty. Have you seen that like when they come in fucked up, and I'll hit on the other bartender. We're like, fuck this. We're moving down the assembly line, shorty.
Have you seen that, like, when they come in?
Are they overly flirty with the other bartenders?
Like, you've been, like, trying to hook up
with, like, all the bartenders?
Yeah, because they're obviously, you've lost out on them,
so now they're gonna be like.
Honestly, no.
No, the only thing, not like, trying to get with
the people I work with, but some boys will bring like other men
Other men
A platoon of young men yeah sure okay
Other girls like as they get a little date or whatever
Oh yeah yeah yeah
And it's like alright like
There is other bars at that point you can go to
I respect that a little bit just like hitting on a
bartender striking out and be like fuck you I'll bring a date right now. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. That's good boy. Yeah. No. So before we let you run we
have we need to have your greatest bartender story the best thing you can
muster bartending serving somebody too drunk somebody who's acted out
Never chase anyone after anyone because they gave you a bad tip. That's all that video recently in Philadelphia
You know very political answer.
Wait, you running for office right now?
That's crazy.
No, because I'm like-
I was actually gonna agree with that,
but then you're kind of right.
Some people are like, how much do you want?
Like, I literally appreciate-
How much do you want?
Like, yeah, you never got in that.
Oh, I hate that.
People are like, is this too little?
And I'm like, I literally appreciate anything I get.
Actually, yes, but I've been with people
who've done that too.
I'm always like, I just appreciate anything I have.
Do you gotta go?
No, my GoPuff driver's almost here.
On that note, we'll let you get your delivery.
Holy shit, how slow is GoPuff?
You've been on this pod for like 30 minutes, I feel like.
I know, was I bad?
No, you were fine.
Yes.
That's great.
What?
I never wanna come back to this bar ever again will never be back here
We won't be back here every single week. That's your real walk out of the bill. Yeah
Of course Maddie ma ttie
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