Mention It All - A Love Letter To The Jersey Husbands & Moms (RHONJ, RHOD Finale)
Episode Date: April 29, 2021Bari and Dylan are back to break down RHONJ and the season finale of RHOD. The Jersey moms and husbands really steal the show this week, until Joe Gorga’s rant about Dolores brings the fun to a scre...eching halt. WTF is Joe’s problem? Over in Dallas, Kary’s questionable behavior continues at Southfork Ranch, and the other women are sick of dealing with her sh*t all season. You can buy SkinnyPop at retailers nationwide, or go to the Shop Now page on skinnypop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to the Mentioner All podcast.
I'm Dylan Hafer.
And I'm Barry Rosenfeld.
How are we?
We are good.
It feels like it's been a long time,
even though it has been normal amount of time.
We actually, before we get into any of it, I want to just give a little update.
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So it's going to be the same amount of content.
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And we're like reversing it.
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I'm excited for New York and Beverly Hills
and everything that's coming up.
I feel like it's an exciting to be a Bravo fan.
Because it's a lot of drama that happened in the real news
that like we are all entitled to find out and watch
on these shows. And also,
fun fact, we talked about this with Luann.
She was our first guest ever on Mention It All.
And she is our first repeat guest on Mention It All.
So we came full circle.
It is funny.
Like, so that was a year ago.
We have, I feel like we had a completely different,
you know, completely different conversation.
It's a new season.
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That line like that freeze doesn't like get old.
Lou and improve. Like, it's such a nice ring. Exactly. Okay. So today we're talking about
Real Housewives of New Jersey, of course, and also the Dallas finale, which happened this week.
This Jersey episode, it just felt like a warm hug. We had moms. We had husbands. We had,
not really kids, I guess. It was, but it was just, we had Dolores getting good news that she doesn't have
cancer. I was just, I felt like I was embraced by my Jersey family this,
The more that they show these husbands,
I feel like people are going to want less of the wives on this show
because they just give us everything we want, these boys.
And it's fun, it's laughter, it's no drama.
They're just like a good time.
I really, I'm curious, like, if there is talk about some kind of Jersey boys,
Jersey Boys.
Jersey Boys, the sequel.
Like, I mean, because if you watch like, you've never seen.
them before. Especially Frank and Joey. Like, they are, they have such good chemistry together.
They're so entertaining and like Jopening, though. Like, they all just get along so well. And I know
that obviously they're an important part of New Jersey housewives, but like, these guys could carry
a show. And let's, uh, yeah. Let's just, let's just call it out. Frank is like them and the messiest one of them all,
more messy than the ladies. He is, you know, when they're at lunch,
at this golf day.
I think Joe Gorga is a little messier, to be honest.
But Frank is so nosy trying to get all this information about Teresa, which, let's be clear,
does not really concern him.
Like, it's not actually any of his business.
And Joe, love Joe Gorga, not a good secret keeper.
He spills the beans right away, says Teresa's falling in love with Lewis.
And I understood why Teresa was annoyed about this, because she clearly was trying to
to keep it casual to a certain degree.
And Joe and Melissa did not uphold that directive.
I think Melissa was really trying to not to not.
And people were like being, you know, really trying to get it out.
But I have to say that I love Jackie, no disrespect, but Evan is fucking hot on that
golf course.
Like, are you kidding me?
He is a tall drink of water.
Like, oh my God.
But first, we got to talk about this tea party that we leave off on.
And then we go back, this Turkish tea party.
And it was like, did you not feel like you were sitting there with your mom too?
Like, I was, I was like, where's my tea?
Where's my tea?
We've seen all of these moms in varying levels on the show.
I feel like we don't, you know, besides March Senior, we haven't really gotten a lot of kind of quality time with some of them.
and we haven't gotten to see a lot of personality.
So it was so fun seeing Valerie, seeing Jackie's mom kind of interact with them.
Even Melissa's mom, obviously we've seen her around over the years,
but it's fun having them in this context where it's not really about drama.
It's like just them really hanging out and having a good time.
And it feels like this group has such a good chemistry with each other.
Right.
And to be honest, something in this episode kind of came full circle as well,
where at the tea party,
they were kind of talking to Valerie,
who's Dolores' mom about her relationship with David.
And like,
Dolores,
you could tell was like pissed,
but like kept her cool a little bit because she's like,
you know,
and she,
they saw,
they showed her faces that she was making to the women,
aka,
like,
stop.
And she was like,
you know,
this isn't something I would bring up with my mom
because we can all see from our end
that Valerie's not too happy either.
Like she wants Dolores to move on,
which Dolores actually said last night
on Watch Robbins Live.
But then like,
She's entitled to stick up for herself,
and it's kind of like everyone was, you know,
when things like this happen,
it seems like everyone's talking about you behind your back
because they all have their opinions about what's happening.
And, you know, we've said it.
I've given my opinion.
We love David,
but everyone's on the same page where should she be with him?
No, is she taking her time to figure it out?
Yes, she's not in a rush.
She's happy.
Like, who cares?
It's a non-traditional relationship.
It's completely fine.
what's happening. I don't understand.
Yeah, I feel like my, my opinion of that relationship has actually changed a little bit
throughout this season.
Because I felt before, like, based on what we had seen in the past and Dolores talking about,
you know, why am I not engaged?
Why am I not moving into the house?
Definitely I was kind of like, okay, like, it seems like you're not getting what you need.
But at this point, I feel like Dolores is super content.
And like, she is an independent woman.
she's a grown-ass woman.
Like she is fine.
She seems happy.
Like she seems fulfilled.
And I think what we see later in this episode when they're talking about her getting a car as a present.
And, you know, was she, Jennifer asks, was she crushed to get the car instead of the ring?
And it's like, no.
If she, if Dolores, at this point in the relationship, if Dolores was like super upset about not being engaged,
She would say that.
And I think people are acting like Dolores can't express how she's really feeling.
And, like, she's so hurt and upset, but just, like, is acting like she's happy?
And I'm like, no, I think she might be happy.
Dolores, yes, exactly.
And, well, she's content.
Like, Dolores is, I find myself similar to her in the way where, like, if something's
bothering you, you'll let whoever know.
Right.
And the fact that she held her composure.
So Michelle had this cocktail party, which was very black tie, I would say.
It was a little formal for my liking.
It's fun to dress up.
But this was like a little over the top.
Right.
And it's just like when it's a dozen people just hanging out in someone's kitchen, it feels a little bit like, okay, why am I in a dress?
Yeah.
So she the Gorgas were drunk, which we love to see.
We love to see a drunk, Melissa.
Like it's amazing.
But Joe Gorga is kind of going.
off and no one and it was it was a lot i have to say like in front of everyone at the party and
also everyone at the party asking each other how they feel about deloress getting a Porsche excuse
me in what room in who in that room's business is it other than dolores why is michel
is michel asking her husband what it means that dolores got a Porsche excuse me like right like
Like, Dolores would barely recognize Michelle if she saw her at the grocery store.
Like, it's one thing for Teresa and Melissa, like these women that have this long relationship with Dolores.
If they want to try and help Dolores, you know, get to the bottom of her feelings or something, that's one thing.
But it felt so gossipy to me.
Oh, my God.
I don't know.
I don't like that.
I wouldn't want the Porsche when I, like, because it feels like cop out for the ring.
And it's like, I don't think that's accurate.
And like, it feels so kind of reductive of every other part of the relationship to just be like,
hmm, she didn't get the ring yet.
It's like, she's fine.
Yeah.
She's fine.
Do you know how uncomfortable that must have been for her in that moment?
I like felt for, I was like, that is not okay for everyone.
Frank, let's go.
I want to go.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
I was like, oh my gosh, Dolores.
I was like, good for her.
I didn't eat yet.
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Of course it's a little dramatic to storm out of a party anytime it happens.
But I felt like in that situation, I totally understood why she felt kind of hurt and upset the way she did.
And it's like when all of these people that you have talked about your relationship with, like, these aren't people who just are like following her on social media and being like, dump his ass.
It's like, these women are acting like she's single and she's like literally not.
That is a weird thing to me.
When they're like, oh, well, like, Teresa's got a man.
but like maybe Dolores would like to meet this guy that Michelle invited.
And it's like, okay, like just because she might not marry David doesn't mean that she's like on the market.
Oh my God, Dylan.
I 100% thought that too less.
And I was like, guys, she has a boyfriend.
Like just we're let's say I have a boyfriend, but I'm not engaged.
Doesn't mean I'm, I'm single.
I'm dating my boyfriend.
Like, what?
I posted this post on Bravo, Bech's on Instagram, which by the way, it's like one of our top performance.
posts ever. People are obsessed with these people. But I was like they should have a dating show where Frank
Sr. and Frank Jr. are trying to find love. And Dolores is like their like advisor. And people in the
comments were like, they should find love for Dolores. And I'm like, she's not single.
Guys. Also. If Dolores wants to be single, then she should go for it. But I'm not going to be the one that's
like, let's find her a man. She also said that last night. She was like, what? It may be out.
Maybe I'll leave.
Maybe I won't.
Like she's, she's not on a timeline, but also when they were passing around the video of Frank kissing Joe's ass.
And Frank, Frank goes, I've eaten more ass than that.
And I was like, better ass.
Better ass that.
I was like, Frank.
Oh my God.
Frank Catania.
When she says Frank Catania in like a scolding manner, that is my favorite thing.
I just, I can't get enough of these, these boons.
But also the fact that we just have to say that Joe Gorga kept calling Dolores broken.
Okay, hold on. Let's reverse.
Joe, Dolores and Frank got divorced, like I think 20 years ago.
She said she left him when she was pregnant with Gabby, I think.
I'm not sure which child's.
But she, yes, can things stay with you for a long time?
And like maybe your guard is up.
I would say her guard is up.
I would never, she's not, Dolores is, Dolores Katania is not a broken woman.
Yeah.
So I wrote it down because I was so shocked.
Joe said that Frank ruined Dolores that she's a broken woman and that she, quote, has a scarred heart.
And it's like, like, I get that fuck out.
Like, that was so, just such a rude thing to say.
Yeah.
To anyone, let alone somebody who's like right there and also like doing fine.
I don't, guys, Dolores is fine.
Have you seen her?
This isn't like Taylor Armstrong in the suitcase and you're calling her a broken woman.
Like, this is Dolores looking the best she's ever looked.
Taylor's in the suitcase.
I just have to say one more thing about this episode of Jersey, Michelle is just, every time she's on the screen, I'm like, oh, sweetie, you want it so bad.
And it's just not happening.
Wait, her boobs are spilling out of her shirt.
When she's showing Teresa this house and then it's like the most obviously staged moment when she's like, oh, like, remember this guy?
I wanted you to meet.
Like, I could have a party.
and he could be there and you can bring your friends.
And like Teresa, the amount that Teresa,
who is the, like, Michelle's connection to the show
doesn't even want to go to this party.
It's like, wow, this is Michelle's,
Michelle's like angle to get on the show
is just disintegrating before our eyes.
Also, like the way she was selling that house,
I completely forgot about that entire scene.
She's like, right?
Did I do it?
Did I do it?
Did I find the house?
Did I find the one?
And then she's like, you're right.
Teresa, like, I want to look at other houses.
Michelle's like, you totally should. You should totally look at other houses.
That's so funny to me because it's like, I don't think very many people just like walk into a
house and are like, I'll take the law. Like, oh, also, Jackie brought up a good point because
obviously Jackie is our educated friend and she was like she thought, no, like she just is there.
Like I feel like I'm being like educated when she speaks to me. But she was like thought that what
what Joe was saying was almost like a message to like Melissa.
And I was like, oh my God.
And the way I'm laughing when I say educated is because I'm like,
no one else would think that she's right in a way.
And I was like no normal person would think that way.
You know, like that thought didn't cross my mind.
But I was like, oh my God, now that you said that, like you're right.
But you know what?
Joe and Melissa are fine.
We love them.
We love them drunk.
But Joe, I hope he apologized to Dolores because.
Dolores deserves an apology, honestly, from a few different people at that party, but most of all, Joe Gorga.
And I think, I think Joe Gorga can get it together and apologize.
I see that.
I think he's the bigger, a big person here.
Yeah, he could do it.
Okay.
Let's talk about this Dallas season finale.
We're at South Fork Ranch.
We pick up where we left off on the murder mystery party, where Brandy is just dead the whole time.
Oh, my God.
Wait.
But she's still drinking.
and farting.
You can get up.
Like, you don't, like, have to be...
You are the one that died, and that's, like,
what's playing the game.
But, like, now that everyone knows that,
like, you can get...
You can, like, stand.
Like, you don't have to be, like, in character this whole time.
I did.
As much as I don't care about a murder mystery party on Housewives,
I did think it was really funny when Carrie was asking her for clues.
And she's like, I can't give you a clue.
And then Deandra, the ending with the fake gun and the gunshots
and DeAndra running outside was very dramatic.
I was not prepared for that.
She got very in character when she was like backing up,
backing up in the circle of people.
And everyone was like,
what is going on?
But then, of course,
someone just ends up in the pool,
as usual,
because if there's a pool on Dallas,
someone is going to be in it.
And who's pushing the person in the pool?
It's going to be Carrie Brittingham.
And so that was, you know,
we've already had an issue with that this season.
So you would think she would avoid repeating the exact behavior
that got her in trouble last time.
Nope.
But of course,
that thought process is not happening in her brain.
And then things just really escalate from there.
And we end up, it was, this happened like so fast.
Like I was like, what's happening?
What is everyone doing?
And then all of a sudden Brandy is like in J.R's bed in this like museum exhibit room.
Okay.
So Carrie's a type person.
Yeah.
Brandy squeezed through and Carrie was like almost like, how'd you get there?
Like, let me do it.
So she took like props from it, whatever.
broke the plexiglass literally they got in jr's bet on the bed like they were going to sleep in it
and i you know what carry reminds me of that friend well guys we've said this multiple times or she
takes it too far but it's like it's like where you're having a pillow fight and then she just starts
like beating you because like it's no you're not supposed to do that right right it's like there's
there's a difference between being like
the drunk friend who's like
down to do something stupid
and the drunk friend who's like
no fucking do it like we're going to go all the way
like there are no like
you don't have a choice it just was so
it was so cringeworthy we literally
two episodes ago we're in Oklahoma
where Carrie is like
berating Charles the Bigfoot Hunter
and squirting salsa all over the bed
and it's like we just did this like
it's not even like oh
once or twice in the past, like, Carrie's made bad decisions. It's like, no, literally three weeks ago,
we were watching Carrie do something equally as deranged. And now she's just doing it again. And again,
doesn't seem very sorry the next day. 100%. And the women made a good point where they were like,
we're not going to get invited anywhere again. This happens everywhere we go. And like, people are
starting to see. And they're not going to like want us as guests, which,
is a very good valid point.
But 100%, she, the next day, the women were all sitting at a table expecting Carrie to
be like, oh my God, like, I can't believe I did that, blah, blah.
And she comes and she's like, who's ready to go excerpt, jazzercise?
And everyone's like, wait.
Are you, hello?
This was maybe the one moment of the season where I felt bad for Brandy because she,
you could tell she genuinely felt awful.
Like she was that person where you wake up after doing something stupid when you're
drunk and you're like, I cannot believe that I, like, I'm so disappointed in myself
making that decision.
And I feel like most of us can probably relate to that in some way.
And to then, to have like the person there who you did it with then be like completely
like, eh, I'm sorry, but like it's not that big of a deal.
It's like, no, Brandy for once is like trying to do the right thing.
And I mean, good for good for them for not getting in that much trouble.
I couldn't believe how nice the lady on the phone was.
Oh my God, I know.
Well, because Carrie's like, we're paying for it.
Like, we're paying for it.
No, but you're, yes, you're fixing it.
But you're not.
Why are you fixing it?
Because it broke.
Why did it break?
Because you were a drunken fool.
Hello.
Like, go back.
Oh, yeah.
I still be able to pay to fix the plexiglass.
And it's like, obviously paying for it is the right thing to do.
But like, like, that doesn't mean it wasn't wrong to break it in the first place.
Right.
I was laughing because Stephanie was almost like, hey, like, do you feel bad at all?
Like, do you, do you?
I'm just wondering, like, do you feel anything?
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Okay, so then the second night at South Fork,
all the husbands are coming for this 80s
Dallas party, which actually I loved this theme.
Like, this was a good theme weekend.
But of course, unsurprisingly,
Eduardo comes down with a little sniffly cold
and can't make it to Southwark Ranch.
And Carrie actually seems
pretty upset about this. And it's interesting because I know that we've talked a little bit
this season about how Eduardo is like totally MIA on the show. We're not really hearing about
Carrie's marriage at all. We're just seeing her daughters. But it's interesting because I don't
think they've really addressed it very much on the show. And so this episode, I was like,
okay, like this is what I want to hear about from Carrie. Because obviously her marriage is going
through stuff. She says later when she facetimes him that she doesn't feel, you know, really
supported. There's a lot going on with their daughters and stuff. And she just feels kind of,
you know, left alone. And I'm like, why weren't we talking about this throughout the season?
Because that's the storyline that I would actually be interested in. I always think of that why certain
housewives have, like, almost are forced to talk about their marital issues. And then it's like,
maybe because Carrie's storyline was being destructive and like a problem that they were like
this would be too much. But it's almost like maybe the marriage stuff didn't come out till later.
So I don't know. But I agree with you. Like I wish, you know, you don't hope that people have
marital problems. But if you are like we're we want to know about it because you signed up for this.
It's like Carrie by being a drunk mass and brandy by having like a racist scandal got
to avoid talking about their marital problems this season.
Okay.
So, yeah.
We do get it.
In the reunion preview, we see Andy ask about both of their marriages and they both look
like they're about to cry.
Also, this reunion set up.
My God.
Those TVs on the chairs like it looks like you're at a memorial service.
Like, God forbid.
I know.
But wait, also, side note, have you ever seen an armadillo?
Like in the wild?
No, like, well, yes.
Or like on TV.
Like, that's my first time ever seeing, like, an armadillo.
Like, they're so cool.
Yeah.
I mean, like, I've seen, I've seen an armadillo.
I don't, like, I haven't, like, lived in a place where armadillos are around.
Actually, I saw a TikTok once of a girl, like, who, like, found an armadillo in a parking lot.
And she was, like, filming it.
Oh, my God.
They're so interesting.
But I, I thought that was great.
I don't really know what they were doing.
But the fact that the episode ended with Brandi and Brian, and it was almost like,
boom, like mugshot-esque photo of turned black and white because like it was almost like
leading us to the what's going to go down in the reunion.
And that right there shows that like that happened after filming.
The producers were probably like, fuck.
Like, you know, and so then they had to give us something.
But like that was very cryptic to me.
I was like, I did not realize that Brandy was 16 weeks pregnant when she found out.
That's crazy.
That is like that TV show.
I didn't know I was pregnant.
It really is.
I'm the opposite of a pregnancy expert, but like, that's almost halfway through a pregnancy.
Yeah, I mean, I thought she was pregnant, or maybe she is.
You know, I've got the timelines are very, like, it's so hard to go back in time or whatever.
In her interviews.
She was.
She was pregnant, but did she know?
They filmed the interviews, like, after filming.
Okay.
So, like, she was probably doing interviews, like, in the fall.
Yeah.
And she had the baby in February.
So, like, she, if she had the baby around Valentine's Day, that would mean she was pregnant in, she got pregnant in, like, May.
See, you are an expert, Dylan.
They filmed until September.
So she was like, yeah, she, I think she probably found out she was pregnant right after filming ended.
But, like, I mean, in this episode when she was, like, in the murder mystery, we see her, like, throwing herself down the stairs.
and like,
uh,
again,
something else she didn't have to do full,
like fully.
Like you don't have to roll down the entire flight of stairs.
Whatever.
I mean,
I mean,
I'm not here to like police pregnant behavior.
It just was kind of like,
oh,
this feels a little,
like I feel a little uncomfortable knowing that she was like,
decently pregnant.
Whatever.
She seems to have a happy,
healthy baby.
And I'm sad because we didn't see a lot of Tiffany in there,
in the finale.
That's true. I did love seeing her in her blonde wig and she, she and Daniel kind of talking about like it's like we're pretending to be white and, and then they transition just straight into doggy style talk.
I was not prepared for that when Tiffany's anyone's doggy style and I can't turn my head around. I also loved somebody called, I think a couple of people called Deendra the Grand Dame when they were lining up on the stairs and I'm like, yes, I agree with that label. She is the one to me that.
like deserves that from the Dallas cast.
Is there anything more?
Yeah. Like, is there anything more Deandra than the whole cast waiting for and her running down
the whole eye being like, I peed on my spanks and needing the whole cast and crew to help her?
Like, she's just a queen when it comes to that.
But this was a fun season.
I'm so curious to see how this reunion goes.
I guess.
We will see.
Let's get into our grab the skinny pop moments of the day.
Of course, endless entertainment calls for endless popcorn.
luckily every kernel of skinny pop is so light,
crunchy and delicious that we love to eat it by the handful
or even the bagful.
Barry, what's your grab the skinny pop moment?
Professor Dylan, my grab the skinny pop moment
was the entire scene of Joe Gorga,
I want to say roasting, attempted roast at Dolores
and Dolores storming out. I was very,
I want to say appalled at this situation.
Yeah, I was appalled.
It was a lot.
It was very heavy, I would say, for one person to have the, to get that feeling after a few minutes of realizing that the entire party is talking about you.
And you know what?
Good for Dolores.
That means no one else there had anything significant going on for themselves.
And they had to put themselves in her business.
But I love them also.
Yeah, that was mine.
It was a lot.
What is yours?
Mine was Frank Catania.
kissing Joe Gorga's ass.
And we saw the initial happening.
We saw the video.
We saw the pictures.
We saw it zoomed in.
I might have screenshoted and zoomed in myself.
You know, I wasn't mad about that moment.
I'll just say I needed, I was grabbing the skinny pop because maybe I wasn't, maybe I
wasn't thirsty.
I was hungry.
Dylan, this is the second week in a row that your grab the skinny pop moment was
about a butt.
Last week, last week was Carl's butt photo, you know, and we love, we love the butts around here.
We really do.
We're butt.
I mean, well, that's today's grab the skinny pop moment.
You can grab skinny pop yourself at retailers nationwide or go to the shop now page on skinnypop.com.
I can't believe you just called me out like that.
It wasn't like that.
It was just like coincidental because there's just so many butts around.
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