Mention It All - A Very Bravo Year In Review
Episode Date: December 27, 2022To close out the year, Dylan sits down for one last solo chat, where he answers listeners’ burning Bravo questions. He reflects on 2022's best and worst franchises, and which Mention It All intervie...ws were the most fun. He also shares his RHUGT dream cast, his hopes and dreams for RHOC’s future, and which one-season Housewife he’d bring back. And finally, he looks ahead to possible new shows, and what he’s most excited for in 2023. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast.
I am Dylan Hafer, and here we are.
We have made it to the final episode of Mention It All for 2022.
I feel like I am podcasting into the future a little bit right now,
because I am recording this the week before Christmas,
as I prepare to head home for the holidays, I'm going to leave my microphone. I'm going to leave it
here. I'm not even taking it with me. So you're going to be hearing this after Christmas,
you know, that week in between when nothing is real, except maybe we get New Housewives episodes.
I don't know. I haven't checked the schedule. But, you know, we're just going to close things out with a little, a little just,
me and all of you solo session. I'm going to answer some of your questions that I solicited
on Instagram. And we're just going to have a nice little time. It's your little holiday treat.
We're only doing one episode this week. Of course, we will be back next week in 2023 with more
new Bravo content. But until then, let's just have a chill time. Grab a drink, maybe a hot cocoa,
spike it with whatever you want.
And let's talk about it.
Of course, if there's any breaking news that's happened in these last few days,
I'm sorry, my podcast Crystal Ball doesn't work quite that well.
We might have a New Jersey trailer by the time you're hearing this.
Maybe a summer house trailer.
Jen Shaw won't be sentenced.
That's good.
You know, maybe hell will freeze over.
Lisa Lenny will get back together.
Nah, probably not. Anyway, if there's breaking news, trust and believe we will get to it next week when we are back. But for now, I'm going to get into some of your questions. You guys had a lot of good questions. I'm not going to be able to answer absolutely all of them. But I feel like, I feel like there were a fair amount that you guys asked more than once. And so I have a little list here and I feel pretty good about it. First and foremost, we are going to get to what do I think are the best and worst franchises?
of 2022. Now, for this question, I did decide to stick with just Real Housewives franchises,
because when I think of everything that's on Bravo, of course, there are things that I enjoy more
or less, but it doesn't feel like there's an even playing field. You know, I might enjoy a season
of, let's say, below-deck med, less than I enjoy a season of Real Housewives of New Jersey.
but that's not so much
a value statement.
That's just like, I care more
about New Jersey. I'm more invested.
It feels like these people are members
of my family. It feels like
if I
could attend
a holiday
at home with any of these women,
maybe except for one or two,
I would gladly accept that invitation.
Below deck bed, I don't really need to see where these people live.
But so anyway, I have kept this.
just to Real Housewives. And I think that my best franchise of 2022 has to go to the
Real Housewives of Potomac. I just, they haven't necessarily had the biggest scandal of
2022 or, you know, even the biggest drama. But I think what Potomac does, I think better than any
franchise at this point, at least, is that no matter what is happening within their group,
they always show up and deliver.
And this season, I feel like it could have,
it could have been a type of season
where once we found out about Ashley and Michael's separation,
which was actually in the season premiere,
that could have sucked all of the air out of the room
for pretty much the entire season.
And a lot of other people could have sort of coasted by
without much of a storyline,
just kind of riding on the coattails of being,
messy about Michael and Ashley. And while of course I am, you know, invested in that storyline,
it is impressive to me how much the other women have been pulling their weight. We have Mia and
Wendy getting into their fight in Miami. We have all this stuff happening with Candace and
rumors about Chris and whatnot. We have Robin kind of getting messier than usual and, you know,
kind of getting into a weird position with some people. Karen always bringing the shade, you know,
it has been still a whirlwind of a season. And I feel like every episode, there are many things happening
that I am excited to see. And I think that Potomac has never really let us down on that front. We're
not done with the season yet. I'm excited. We have a few more episodes. I'm excited to see how their
reunion goes. But overall, I can't complain about Potomac this year. And my honorable mention for
best franchise, because I feel like it's in a slightly different category, is the real
Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, X-wives Club. Those ladies, they got to the Berkshires and they wasted
no time. That was just a delightful season to watch. The cast clicked so well together.
There was great drama. There were great lighthearted moments. There were great unexpected
friendships, you know, seeing how well Taylor got along with Eva and Fadra, seeing Brandy and Tamara
work out there, she's back together. Jill and Derinda having lots of drama. You know, Vicky,
versus Derinda, all of those kind of interpersonal dynamics are what makes the whole concept of Ultimate
Girls Trip so special. And I felt like that season, even more than the first season, which of course
was enjoyable, that second season really just, really just hit the nail on the head. And it
makes me excited for what we have in store in the future on Ultimate Girls Trip, because they're
going to keep doing them. And I'm curious to see, you know, where it goes.
Now, on the opposite end of the spectrum, I did also have to come up with my worst franchises of 2022.
And this was a little tricky because I don't necessarily think there was one franchise this year that was so down in the dumps that it was an obvious choice.
So there were kind of, there were kind of a couple options, but nothing that particularly jumped out at me.
but I decided first to go with Real House House of Orange County.
And I think that is mostly because season 15 had been such a low point.
And while season 16 was certainly an improvement on that kind of all-time low pandemic season
that we got the year before with Kelly and Bronwyn and Liz Vargas, God bless her, wherever she is,
this season was not the course correction that I think most of us were quite hoping for.
They brought back Heather DeBrow.
And look, I love me some Heather DeBrow.
I'm not mad at her for how this season went down.
I don't blame her for the fact that it wasn't, you know, an excellent season because
Housewives is an ensemble show.
Everybody has to pull their weight.
And could Heather have done some things better?
Sure.
But could other people also have done something's better? Yes. Yes, they could have. So I think
blaming Heather for the season as a whole is a little bit simplistic. You don't have to love her.
I don't give a shit. But I think overall, it just, the group didn't pull itself up to the level
that we were hoping for. But I'll talk about later where I think OC is going. The other,
the other worst franchise that I could come up with, it was Dubai. We were all excited. We were all
excited to see a new city, but it's always a little tricky in that first season. And I don't want to
be too harsh on them because I think it's one season. It's not a lot of episodes. It's new people.
It's a totally new environment for us to watch and take in and see how they do things there.
But I, you know, it kind of fell off of it. And I think by the end of the season, it was a little
bit like, is anybody still, we don't have to, okay. And Beverly Hills was on at that point,
and that was on, they were on the same night. And so especially thinking about planning the podcast
during that time, it was like, I was mostly focused on guests that I wanted to talk about
Beverly Hills with. And so Dubai became, it started off almost as an afterthought. And then it
slowly just kind of worked its way off of the docket altogether, which I felt bad about,
but what are you going to do? But there are rumors that Dubai is going to start filming again in a
couple months. So if, assuming they do come back for a second season, I'm down, I'm ready,
I'll watch. I hope it's good. I feel like there is still potential there beyond what they
showed in the first season. So we'll see what they do. Don't count them.
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Okay, the next thing I got asked a bunch was what were some of my favorite?
Bravo Lev interviews of 2022. And this was a tough question because we had a lot of great people on the
podcast this year. I went back and counted because I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
And y'all, we had 43 Bravo Leberties from 19 different Bravo shows on the podcast in 2022.
That is, it feels crazy. And the thing that I loved so much this year was getting to have guests in
the studio for the first time ever, because we started this podcast in the pandemic. And so this year,
getting to have so many of our Bravo Liberty guests, of our other guests, come in the studio,
have these conversations in person. Really, I feel like you get a better sense of personality.
The conversation flows better. And I mean, I'll be a little selfish. It's fun for me to meet him.
I would rather have a photo of me with Larsa Pippen than a Zoom screenshot.
That's no fun.
We did that.
It's lame.
You don't post those anywhere.
Good for us being in the studio.
In terms of favorite interviews, yeah, it's tough.
I, just a couple weeks ago, Larsa and Lisa, that felt a little bucket listy.
Larsa was somebody that when she first came back on to Housewives last year,
it felt a little bit surreal.
Like, why are you here?
Why are you back here?
This isn't your world.
And so meeting her at the premiere a few weeks ago,
I was excited to meet her more starstruck than I normally am
about meeting Bravo people.
And I was really excited to get her and Lisa in the studio this season.
You know, Lisa in the middle of stuff going on with Lenny,
Larsa in the middle of whatever's going on with Marcus Jordan.
Oh, I hope they're having fun.
But yeah, so that was a good one.
Having Craig and Austin in the studio together, that was a lot of fun too.
It was the end of the day.
They had been drinking.
I had a little drink.
It just, it was fun.
It was a little messy.
It got a little spicy in the room.
It felt like one of those things where they're not necessarily.
necessarily my favorite people that I've interviewed in terms of who I'm connect with the most
or who I gravitate to when I'm watching the shows. But I felt like that was a fun,
it was a fun one. And then the other person, this is so random. I know I've said before that I
had a weirdly good time, Kelly Colora and Ben Simone, having her in the studio was just kind of a
pleasure. And it was super random. She wasn't really promoting anything. And we just had a nice little chat.
That was back in the summer.
So if you're a newer listener, scroll back up, find that conversation.
We talked all about Roney, Scary Island, whatever.
It was a good time.
But really, okay, when I'm saying favorites, I just want to clarify, these aren't my favorite people.
These aren't who was the nicest to me.
People always ask, you know, who are your favorite, least favorite, et cetera, et cetera.
First of all, I'm not going to say least favorite because I don't want to be an asshole.
But also, I don't really have net.
negative experiences with Bravo Lebrides very often. People more often than not, way more often than not, are
kind and friendly and professional. I think that's important to note that most of the time when I'm
interacting with these people, they know who I am, not me, not Dylan personally, but they know
that I am press, media, whatever you want to call it. And we are interacting in essentially
a work capacity. So it would not be beneficial to any of these housewives to be coming in the office,
acting like an asshole, making demands, being hard to work with. I don't really see that side very
often. If they have that side, I believe it. But, you know, that's not really what I'm getting
from most of them. So have I had varying levels of experiences? Sure. But like, I don't have a list of
Bravo Lebrides that I have like done me wrong. I kind of wish I did. I mean, that would be fun.
But no, it was a good year. A lot of good people. Heather, Lisa, you know, a lot of good ones.
And hopefully a lot of good ones to come in 2023.
The next one I got asked was if I could cast a season of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip,
who would be on my cast?
this was, this was tough because of course we had ex-wives club. We had the first season where there
wasn't an explicit theme, but it was very like OG and OG adjacent kind of people. And then
this third season we have coming up, it's mostly these duos from shows except for Portia and
Leah, but it's a little bit random. So I, instead of deciding,
to go with any particular theme. I chose one housewife from each U.S. franchise, except
real housewives of D.C., because, frankly, I don't need any of them. So going down the list,
I started with Ashley Darby, who I just recently spoke to, and she is chomping at the bit
to go on a girl's trip, get her on there. Unfortunately, I did not choose any of Ashley
Lee's wish list because I gotta be honest, Ashley mostly named people who have already done an
ultimate girls trip. And I just don't feel like we have been doing enough of these for long enough
that people should be getting repeat invitations. I think until we've done maybe, I don't know,
five or six seasons of girls trip, we don't, we're not sending Teresa on another one.
We're not sending Luann on another one.
They did it.
They did their thing.
And unless there's a specific theme that they fit or they are doing some kind of all-stars situation, no.
Mm-mm.
So Ashley Darby instead, from Miami, she will be joined by Lisa.
Lisa Hoxton.
I think she would be fun in the sun, good time girl.
She can get away from Lenny.
Hopefully she can find a reliable nanny because we know Lenny's not going to watch the kids.
Lisa Hawstein would be joined from something.
Salt Lake City by Lisa Barlow.
Lisa, I just feel like she would
have fun on a girl's trip.
She's, I mean, she's not a good time girl,
but like, she could be a good time girl.
I think she would be really funny.
I think it would be fun to have her
away from the group drama
because Salt Lake City has gotten so
vicious cycle with their cast dynamics.
So Lisa Barlow from Orange County,
Megan King.
I think she would be a really fun kind of question mark of a person to put on a girl's trip
because she's not a current housewife.
It's been a little bit since we've had a lot of time with her, but she's young.
She's scrappy.
She is the detective MKE.
And I think that would be a fun little dynamic on a girl's trip.
From Beverly Hills, it's got to be Doreet.
DeRite belongs on a girl's trip.
the looks would be over the top, they would be everything.
I would love to see kind of how the other women react to her,
because I feel like she has a very specific flavor that would be a little bit off-putting
if you didn't know what to expect.
From Dallas, Tiffany Moon, if anybody deserves a fucking free trip,
it is Dr. Tiffany Moon.
She got the short end of the stick with her housewives experience.
And while Real Housewives of Dallas, I think,
needed to go bye-bye for a little bit. I would love to see her back in something. Beyond that,
I would say Ebony Williams from New York, another kind of short end of the stick with the
housewives thing. I think that, you know, it would just be fun to see her in a little bit of a lighter
environment versus what she had to deal with on her season of New York. And last but not least,
from New Jersey, Jennifer Aiden. Jennifer Aiden, you know she would come with some dirt dug up that she
Googled on who else was going to be in the house.
She would be putting her foot in her mouth, left and right.
She would be getting too turt.
I feel like Jennifer Aden would be nonstop entertainment on a girl's trip.
And overall, yeah, that's my cast.
Eight people.
Is that eight?
I can't count.
Yeah, eight.
Yeah, sorry.
I'm like looking at the list.
Is that like eight?
Okay, eight.
Does that ever happen to you where you're like, you're with a group of people?
And you're like, okay, there's five of us.
And then you realize that you forgot to count yourself.
and it's like, oh, it's six.
That's not that high of a number.
I should be able to count there.
Nope, just me.
Okay.
I got a couple questions about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
First of all, people seem confused, concerned, whatever adjective about their filming situation
right now.
Obviously, the season wrapped up in the fall, and they have not started filming a new season
yet. I feel like it's been pretty widely reported that they have been taking a little break
and the plan is to start filming after the new year, I think most likely in January.
I don't think this is a cause for concern. I think this is the producers being smart about the fact
that sometimes when you have a hit show that's successful, that has ongoing storylines that you need
to be following. You do a couple seasons in sort of quick succession. And then there comes a point
where it's best for the show to take a little bit of a breather and the cast to have a few months off
and for the temperature to kind of level out a little bit and for things to cool off. And I think that is
what Beverly Hills has been doing this fall. I think after this most recent season, the stuff
with Diana got so messy and, you know, Garcell had every right to be upset about the way things
went down with that. I think the whole Erica situation, the Erica legal situation has kind of come
to a point where there's no real, there's no real plot to talk about there. So I think that is kind of
at a natural leave off point. All the stuff with Rina and Kathy was just so kind of,
toxic and you know, Kathy and Kyle, who fucking knows. So I think, I don't think Beverly Hills is in a
position like New York where they're really in a bad place and we don't know how they're going
to come back from it. I think they are just in sort of a natural position where it's best
for them to take a little break. Maybe make some casting adjustments. I don't know what's happening
there. I wish I had Beverly Hills casting tea, but that's not really, I don't really do the like
T, like, I don't need people like sliding into my DMs. It's messy. I don't, I'm fine. We'll see in
January, if they're starting to film, we should be getting, you know, photos and I'm sure Dumois
will know where they're at and when. So we'll see who's getting cast. The other question
I got asked, which made me laugh, is should Torrey Spelling be on Real House size of Beverly Hills?
She knows some of the women. It's been talked about for a long time. The answer to this, for me,
is simple. The answer is no. Tori Spelling should not be on Beverly Hills. I don't know what's going on
with her money situation. I don't know what's going on with her marriage. But to me, it's like too much
too much water under the bridge. I don't, I don't need all that baggage coming on to housewives.
I'm sure she knows some of the women kind of, but also I just don't think at this point in Beverly
Hills is lifespan. I don't think we need famous.
people and definitely not famous people in the way that Tory spelling is famous. Because I think with
somebody like Garcell, for instance, or even Denise Richards, they came on the show as, you know,
well-known, I think pretty respected people, working actors who, you know, have a history in the
business, are well-connected, and Housewives was like a work project for them. It has panned out.
seems really well for Garcel, Denise, maybe not so much. Tori Spelling is not a successful working
actor in the way that either Denise or Garcel are, or even Lisa. I mean, Lisa Rina, I don't know how much
she was working as an actress when she got cast on Housewives, but she was a, you know,
kind of professional in the biz. Tori Spelling at this point, I don't really know how she fills her
time, but she is not somebody that gives off, like, successful Hollywood woman who is doing
Housewives as a career chess move. If she did Housewives, it would be like,
till between her legs, what can I do for a paycheck? Please, Andy, please. I will show up
absolutely anywhere you need me. I will do what you need me to do. Please, Dean, and my
mom are, you know, kicking me out of the house. I don't know. But like, I don't need desperation.
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Next, we've got which single season housewife I would bring back.
I feel like this is a popular question.
People always talk about it.
There's been, I've seen people saying that they should do a one season wonder season of ultimate girls trip, which I don't know if that would get enough viewers.
I feel like with girls trip, it's people want to see who they know.
I'm like, I don't feel like a lot of the one season housewives, it's like even if they were,
solid on their seasons of housewives. I don't know or remember or think about them enough to
really care. So it's like, okay, like, yeah, great. Jules Weinstein, Claudia Jordan. Were they,
did they bring something to their seasons of housewives? Yes. Do I need to watch a week-long trip of
them in Thailand? Probably not. I mean, I would because it's my job, but I don't know if that's
why Peacock is making programming decisions.
So the housewife that I said I would bring back is Noella.
I think her one season of Orange County last year was tough.
She obviously was really going through it with her now, soon to be, ex-husband,
just like completely ditching her in Puerto Rico.
But overall, I thought she was an interesting person.
I thought her disdain for Heather Dubrow was kind of exciting.
in a way, really intriguing. And I think she was kind of done dirty by her husband in terms of what
she could really bring to the table on housewives. But I think there was potential there. And I do think
in terms of putting the cast together moving forward, Noella, especially if she was in a less
broken state, could have been a really interesting new piece of that puzzle. So, you know,
I'm not like obsessed with Noella, but I think a second season would have been, would have been
justifiable.
Speaking of that, the next question I have on my list is Orange County salvageable?
And I think the answer to this is totally yes.
First of all, like I just said, I think Noella would have been an interesting addition to this
upcoming season, but even without her, this season, season 17 that they're filming,
has a lot to look forward to.
Again, I haven't seen any of it.
I don't know.
I think they're,
I don't know if they're still filming.
They might be done filming.
But just having Tamara back is such a huge step for the franchise.
I think we weren't sure if it was ever going to happen.
Heather, coming back last season,
seemed like kind of a big move to try and write the ship.
And like I said earlier,
I think it helped,
but it didn't quite get the job.
job done. And I think, you know, bringing Tamara back is a little bit like, okay, we built,
we built the medium-sized building last year. This time we're going for the full skyscraper.
And I think there's a lot of pressure resting on Tamara's shoulders. But at the same time,
if there's anybody that can get the job done and get it over the finish line, I think it's
her. She has proven herself time and time again in the past. She was great on girls' trip this
past summer. I'm excited to see her journey with Shannon. I'm excited to see her reunion with Heather
Dubrow. There's just so many question marks there. She's been on the show with Gina and Emily in the
past. She really still kind of knows everyone in the group. I think there's a new woman also joining the
cast, so I'm curious about that. And then we have Taylor Armstrong joining the mix as a friend of,
like, yeah, I want to see that.
We know Taylor and Tamara are friends.
It seemed at BravoCon, like, they brought Taylor out as a quote-unquote surprise to their panel.
I think just a surprise for the audience because they hadn't announced it.
But you can tell that Taylor is not necessarily on amazing terms with everyone in the cast.
I think she's going to get involved in some drama, which I'm really excited to see.
And then we also know that Vicky has been filming with them,
little bit. And while I am by no means of Vicky Gunvelson Stan, I think she is annoying. I think she's
problematic. I think she sucks in a lot of ways. I can't deny that she's given us a lot on
housewives in the past. And, you know, to have her around for a few episodes, to see the
Trace Amigos back together, I'm like, I'm down for that. I'm down. I wouldn't want Vicky to come back
full-time, but I'm okay with having her a little bit in the mix. I think that can be having more people
kind of in the universe of the franchise is a good thing, not a bad thing. And I think Vicky makes
sense. We get the gang back together. Let's go. Let's see. What is next on the list? Do you feel
that Housewives has gotten too formulaic? Was old Housewives better? This is an interesting question
because I think for those of us who have watched pretty much all of housewives from start to finish,
lots of the franchises, I think there can, there's a tendency to kind of be nostalgic for the old days of housewives when there were still more OGs around.
And before things had gotten sort of so supersized with the sort of Bravo world.
But to me, I don't think the problem is that it's gotten formulaic.
for sure there are, you know, various seasons, episodes, storylines that feel formulaic.
But to me, the bigger kind of systemic issue with Housewives in the modern era, let's say,
is that it just is such a known platform that I think with anything like this,
and you get people coming on the show not to use a Bachelor,
Bachelor nation lingo, which I can't believe I'm doing, you get people that aren't here for the right
reasons. And I mean, it's not like we're here to find love. You know, this is not an engagement
ring at the end of the season. So it's a little less concrete than on The Bachelor where it's just
people that just want fame. But in that way, it is kind of similar with Housewives that, of course,
it's a great platform. It can be a great opportunity to get your business out there, to get your
personal brand out there to further your career if you're somebody like a Garcell or a candy
or anybody like that. But the thing is, you also have to be invested in the show itself.
The experience of being on the show of opening up your life to the cameras, of really participating
in both personal storylines, in group storylines, of showing up to things that you don't
necessarily want to show up for. And overall, just like, I think the biggest thing about being
on Housewives is that you can't feel like you are better than the show. And so I think,
I think more than being formulaic, that is the thing that can become an issue, is that people see,
oh, so-and-so went on Housewives, they got all these followers, they launched a skincare brand,
they are financially independent.
If they want to leave their marriage,
then they can afford to do that.
You know, lots of different things.
And that other women could see that and be like,
oh, well, maybe if I want to do X, Y, Z,
housewives is a good launch pad.
And yes, it is,
but you also have to be down to do housewives.
And so that's what I would say.
If there are any women of America listening
who think they could be on real housewives.
You've got to be more focused on participating in housewives than on whatever else you have going on and what your goals are outside of the show.
Okay.
Lots of people were asking about rumors that they are working on a real housewives of New Orleans franchise.
There were recently some posts I found about apparently shed media, who is the production company behind
Real Housewives of New York, Salt Lake City, and notably Ultimate Girls Trip, that they are casting
for a new reality show in New Orleans with some word on the street that basically they're
casting this show and if it goes well, there's potential that it could be a Real Housewives franchise.
We've seen that with some other franchises where they filmed the first season as kind of,
you know, generic ladies of Dallas or whatever. And then if it goes well, Bravo can pick it up as
housewives. I don't know anything behind the scenes about this. All I've seen is what's, you know,
floating around online. I don't think anything has been filmed yet. There's no rumored cast list.
Do I think New Orleans could be a good city for real housewives? Absolutely. There are a lot of rich
people there. There's a lot of diversity there, which is exciting. There's a lot of history there.
the culture is super unique and super special.
And I think to sort of wrap this into another question that I got a lot about,
you know, what other cities, places I think could be a good fit for a Housewives franchise.
I think one of the biggest things that I want to see from new franchises is something about
the location or about the group or the whatever has to be unique.
and I think with Salt Lake City, when they announced it, people were a little confused because it's not that big of a city.
It's not thought of as being super glamorous like Beverly Hills or Miami.
People were kind of like, okay, what does that mean?
But we've seen on the show, there's such an interesting opportunity for the different religious stuff to come into play for, you know, the culture around purity and, you know, the whole good time girl thing on C's.
season one, that's so interesting. And then Dubai, I think while the show itself, the first season
wasn't amazing, there's a lot of potential there because it is such a different type of place.
And I think New Orleans, in terms of what would make a good setting for a housewives show,
New Orleans is exactly that. So I don't know if it's happening. I don't know anything more than
you do, but if it happens, I would watch it. The other place I felt like could be intriguing for
a show in the future is London. If they want to do something international, I think Ladies of London
is still a great example of something that worked really well. People loved it. People, I think that's
part of the reason Dubai maybe got fast-tracked with Caroline Stanbury, who knows. But I think sort of
taking some of that framework from Ladies of London and turning it into a Housewives show,
it could work. I would watch it. Again, I'd watch anything, but whatever. And lastly, I got asked
which shows I am looking forward to most in 2023.
And this is a big question because, I mean, like I said, we had guests from 19 different
Bravo shows this year and there were more that we didn't have guests from.
Like, there are so many shows.
In my mind, there's like 12.
There's like 20 something.
But the shows that came to mind that I'm looking forward to the most, first of all,
Real Housewives of New Jersey, we might have a trailer even by the time you're listening
to this.
I'm super excited.
They always, for the most part, always deliver.
We know there's going to be a lot of drama this season.
And I'm excited to get to the point.
It feels like they finished filming forever ago.
So I'm excited to see that.
The other houseways I have on my list is the New York reboot because it's a big old
question mark.
We know who's on the show, but we don't know kind of what the vibe is going to be,
how it's going to look, how it's going to feel, if it's going to feel like Roney or
like something totally new.
So I'm excited for that.
excited in a very mysterious sort of way.
And then the other two non-housewives shows that I put on my list, first below-deck sailing
yacht, their last couple of seasons have been total firecrackers, definitely my favorite
below-deck franchise at this moment.
So I'm excited to see what they have coming for us next year.
And then lastly, I think one of my favorite Bravo shows of this year, and I expect it to be
at the top of the list next year.
Top Chef. Top Chef never lets me down. And they are headed to London next year. So that is going to be
super interesting, super exciting. And you know, I can't wait to see what Padma and Tom and Gail have
in store for us. If 2023 is anything like 2022, it is going to be an absolute whirlwind in the
Bravo world. But you know what? It has been a great year. And I am so grateful for everyone who has
listened for everyone who's subscribed, who has told their friends to listen, getting to meet
some of you in person at BravoCon, or just, you know, on the street wherever has been so fun.
If you ever see me in public, by the way, like, say hi. It's fun. But it has been a great year,
truly, you know, feel free to slide into our DMs at Bravo by Betches. If you have ideas,
people you want to hear on the show, Bravo Labs, other guests you think we
should have on. Of course, we are always looking for new things to talk about, what shows you
want to hear about. In the meantime, thank you so much for listening. I hope you're having a great
holidays. Have a great new year. Happy, safe New Year. And I will speak to you in 2023. Of course,
don't forget to rate, review, and follow the show so you'd never miss an episode. You can follow us
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