Mention It All - Alexia Tells All & Randall Has A New Name

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

A new week means new Bravo drama, starting with an intriguing twist in the saga of Randall Emmett. How is he getting away with (allegedly) not paying people now? Then, Dylan digs into Alexia’s return to podcasting, where she shared lots of details about her painful split from Todd. Later in the episode, Dylan plays catchup on Summer House, analyzing the latest developments with Lindsay and Carl, Danielle’s strange position in the house, and why this season is refreshing when it comes to how the cast is discussing their jobs. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Exclusions apply for licenses see Home Depot.com slash license numbers. Betches Media presents Ha ha ha laugh funny Mention It All A Bravo by Betches podcast We don't say that but now we said it With me Dylan Hafer Hey everyone

Welcome back to the Mentioned All podcast I'm Dylan Hafer It's Monday We've got a bunch of stuff To catch up on I'm gonna talk a little bit about Summerhouse later I haven't talked about it

in a couple weeks And this season is high key Very interesting So I'm excited to kind of to dig back into that a little bit I'm going to talk about Alexia and Marisol's latest episode of their podcast because Alexia is addressing everything that's happening with her divorce. First, we have a story that is, I don't know why this is coming back up again because I really

just want to be done with ever talking about Randall Emmett. But Randall Emmett, in case you weren't aware, which you probably aren't because his movies basically don't exist. I really think there is some sort of like tax shell. wire something. I don't know enough about white collar crime to know exactly what's going on with these film endeavors, but they just can't be making money for anybody, except for Randall and his, like, shady producer friends.

Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, I don't know. But so Randall Emmett, in case you forgot, directs these videos that are like mostly straight to VOD or streaming or, you know, maybe they're in like 12 theaters in Poughkeepsie or something like that, but he has a new movie out, a new movie out this week, starring John Travolta, and it also has Kristen Davis from Sex in the City, and Cuevo in it. Quavo, yes, as in, like, the rapper, Cuevo, who has worked with Randall Emmett before. I didn't know that Cuevo had an acting career, but apparently he does, basically exclusively in Randall Emmett productions. But the funny thing about this movie is that Randall Emmett is now using a pseudonym.

So, this movie that came out of him. out this week is called, what is it? I literally don't even, it's called Cash Out. And it is directed by Ives. I-V-E-E-S, one name, Ives, baby. And Ives is none other than Randall Emmett. Ives is, I guess, his middle name. So after this, these allegations and, you know, rumors and nastiness that have dropped about him in the last couple of years, he has, you know, taken a step back from, uh, from his Randall Emmett business and now returned as the lightly disguised Ives. But so this movie, it was released in a handful of theaters straight to VOD. It has 31% on Rotten Tomatoes.

And there is already a sequel that apparently has been filmed, is being filmed at a casino in Mississippi. But the LA Times, in case you were wondering, has not given up on their, you know, looking into things with Randall Emmett. and they actually just published a new article with kind of more details about some of his shady business practices. One of which is that there was a film last year, a couple years ago, that Sylvester Stallone was in with Mr. Emmett. And Sylvester Stallone did one day of work on this film and was reportedly paid $3.5 million for a single day of work. Now, Sylvester Stallone, of course, is very famous and of course has, um,

you know, made lots of money over the course of his career. But for somebody like him, who is, shall we say, I don't want to say past his prime in like a rude way, but I don't think that Sylvester Stallone fever is necessarily where it was in like the late 70s or, you know, any of the three decades after that. Like Sylvester Stallone movies are not making like a billion dollars at the box office these days. So for somebody like him on a movie that apparently only had a budget of about $10 million to make three and a half of those million for one single day of work, again, it's giving, it's giving embezzlement. It's giving, you know, covering our, covering our ass for something else. It's giving like money laundering. I don't know that, of course. I'm just, you know, gesticulating about what might be happening under the table here. But the bigger problem with this is, you know, Sylvester Stallone can get paid whatever he wants.

You know, that's between him and Randall, except crew members and vendors and people that have worked with Randall in various capacities have a habit of not receiving the payment that they are owed and having to go to extreme lengths, sometimes including suing him or getting the unions involved, to try and get the money that they are owed for work that they have done. And so Randall just has this like long streak. And there are, I just saw last night a Twitter thread of somebody who has worked with him and, you know, then advised somebody else that was in their life not to work with him. And because even something that seemed like a really big career opportunity could turn into this nightmare of not getting your money. The movie not coming out or being mired in scandal or controversy or, you know, also just dropping on VOD and basically not existing. So the fact that Randall is still in this business, and by this business, I don't just mean like Hollywood in general. I mean this business of putting out these no-name movies with A-list talent that the economics of it does not make sense in any traditional way. Like there has to be

something, there has to be something more kind of, you know, underhanded, you know, behind the curtain going on with this. And it just is wild. And the fact that he's doing it with a pseudonym to me, to me is very telling because it's like people who have worked under their real name and then for decades and are known and I was going to say known and respected, but I think that's kind of the issue here is that he's perhaps not respected anymore. I mean, he has real credits to his name. He was a producer on the Irishman for God's sake. He worked with Martin Scorsese. Lala met Martin Scorsese. But like, the fact that Randall is still kind of pulling this same scheme is wild. And I don't know kind of where things are at in more of like

a legal sense. I don't know if there is kind of like his day in court is coming. But it's disappointing that all of this shadiness is still happening. And most of all, I just hope that anybody who is working with him, you know, in a capacity of just like needing a job, I hope that they get paid. Don't, guys, don't sign the contract. Don't do it. It can't be worth it. I know that the entertainment industry is in a weird place right now, but working with Randall Emmett, it's just, it's going to bite you in the ass. But anyway, I haven't seen the movie. I probably won't. I haven't, I meant to watch. The one that I actually felt like I should watch was the one that came out a few years ago, Midnight in the Switchgrass, which is the one with Bruce Willis and Megan Fox that Lala actually

appeared in. I still never watched it. I probably never will. I don't know if it's, you know, I don't know where it's streaming these days, but it did make $97,000. the box office. Hats off. So good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, frame, and free people. Join the Nordi Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more.

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some maybe kind of jokes and comments about all of these Bravo Leopardy podcasts. I think some of, they're not all created equal, but a lot of them are, are kind of under the same umbrella of like, okay, you like these two. Let's, let's give them an I heart contract and they'll just shoot the shit for an hour every week until the contract runs out. Like I said, Larsa and Marcus, their podcast is. has been dormant for a minute. But Alexia and Marisol, they're keeping it up.

You know, they're in the two T's umbrella. So there's a little bit more of an infrastructure there. I got to say, this is the first time I've listened to a full episode of I, por favor. And it was pretty entertaining. Because, of course, this is the first episode that Alexia has been back on since the news that Todd filed for divorce. Marisol did like a solo update a couple weeks ago that was like, I don't know. To me, it's a little bit like, I don't, I don't know what the contract stipulates here about like, you know, not missing an episode or whatever. I mean, for me, it's like, I guess it's Monday. We'll find something to talk about. But I didn't really need to hear like Marisol's solo episode of being like, I'm going to be here for bro, no matter what. And you know, we stick together. But this episode that was Alexia and Marisol was pretty interesting. And it wasn't, I was skeptical when I pressed, play, because it's over an hour long. First of all, that's a long time to talk about whatever

you're going to talk about. I was not really getting my hopes up in terms of getting like tea about what happened with Alexia and Todd. Because the thing is, first of all, it's very fresh. Alexia says on the show, it's like the third week of her knowing about the divorce. Like, it happened a couple weeks ago. She's still, it's still fresh. Obviously, in terms of logistics of things happening and, you know, figuring out kind of the future way forward. A divorce takes a lot of time. They did have a pre-up, so hopefully that will help. But, you know, as we've seen on various other Bravo shows, having a pre-up does not always mean that your divorce is going to be quick and easy. But so I wasn't sure kind of what to expect going into this episode of whether it was really going to

be kind of like juicy. I hate to even use that word because it's like we're talking about people's lives here, but it was emotional and it was interesting. And I felt like even though we didn't necessarily get a lot of exact details of like, we fought about this and that, and this was the timeline and this was the day. And then I, here I was when I found out, I felt like Alexia was very open about kind of how this whole thing has been impacting her and sort of how things, went down from her perspective. So a couple of the details just that are sort of relevant. So she says that she knew that Todd had filed for divorce or was filing for divorce a few

days before the news became public. So this I think, I'm glad to hear it because, you know, there's nothing, I think, more kind of icky and salacious than when somebody like reads about their own life in TMZ and is like, wait, what? So she did know a few days in advance. but Marisol, interesting, there are definitely some moments in this episode where Marisol kind of like jumps in with a little tidbit of detail that Alexia maybe wasn't going to say. So Alexia says that she knew a few days before, but Marisol does use the word blindsided. Alexia says that they had been fighting about stuff and they had kind of like the normal fights that a couple would have.

But that she thought that they were going to make it through and that she, it's clear that it's not like their relationship. was perfect. But from Alexia's point of view, they didn't have issues to the point where it was like heading in the direction of divorce. She thought they were going to work it out. She says that she's a fighter and that she doesn't like to give up on things. And Marisol says someone gave up. Obviously someone being taught. But so, yeah, I mean, that's kind of, that's kind of what it is. Alexia says that she never got the chance to really sit down and have a conversation about it. So I think that's where the blindsiding thing comes in. Like, we're going to talk about Lindsay and Carl in a few minutes.

But the word blindside is tough because it's like, obviously nobody's relationship is perfect. And nobody has, you know, 100% certainty that things are going to work out. But if you don't feel like things are kind of past the point of no return, then it makes sense that somebody like Alexia, she's in this marriage. She's going to think, okay, like we're going to work through this. And it sounds like that is kind of one of the hardest things for her is that she doesn't feel like she got really that opportunity to speak about whether they were going to separate or whether they were going to stay together

or whether somebody was going to file for divorce. So like they had arguments together, but at the end of the day, Todd went and did this on his own. And it wasn't like a mutual decision that they were going to get divorced. So that's tough. It's just tough anytime somebody feels like they get the rug pulled out from under them, whether it's, whether it's something that you really,

really couldn't have seen coming or whether it's just something that you, that kind of caught you by surprise. It's like, it's unfortunate. And Alexia talks a lot about the fact that they, they were together for seven years. They were married for a little over two. And that she really felt like this was the person she was going to spend the rest of her life with.

I thought one of the more, one of the more interesting things that she talked about that I hadn't really thought about was that obviously she's been through this before. She's, you know, she's been married before. She's dealt with breakups before and like other relationship situations. But that now she's at a point in her life. She turns 57 this week. She talks about or 58.

I don't know. And she's like, I feel like I'm at a different point in my life where I don't have. have just endless time left. And, you know, I'm starting over again now in my late 50s, not just in the relationship department, but also with all these other things that come along with that. It's like, okay, where am I going to be living? What's my, what's my, you know, financial situation? Like, who, you know, am I dealing with all this legal stuff? Who's taking what car? And, you know, what's communal property? And what do I, what do I have to do? And The thing that she says has been the hardest is because Marisol's like, oh my God, you have to sleep alone in the bed.

And she's like, I don't care about that. What she says is the hardest is that in the past, you know, she and Todd would get home in the afternoon. And a lot of the time, he would get home from work earlier than her. And so she would get there and he would be there. And they would, you know, have their evening together. They would go out to dinner, whatever they were doing. And that it's been really hard to sort of get used to the reality that now he's not there. and now she does that stuff alone.

Or, you know, with her sons, she talks about how great they've been in this whole process. But it is, it's tough to think about. And I don't have the life experience of being, you know, 57 and divorced and whatever. But that like, as you get older, it starts to feel more like you're kind of planning for how much time you have left. And that whatever plans she had just aren't going to happen. And that's, it's really tough. And she gets.

really emotional. She gets emotional. A few times in the episode, she talks about, you know, her boys and gets really emotional talking about how Frankie is just like this angel who's always there for her and how important their relationship is. She also gets emotional talking about just like kind of the idea of being strong and that people always come to her and say, oh, Alexia, you're so strong, you've been through so much and, you know, you always make it through. And she clearly is really struggling with this feeling of like, I'm always strong because I've had to be strong, whether it's for her kids, whether it's for her family or her relationship situation or whatever, like that she is strong from a place of need, not from a place of like,

I'm just like a bad bitch and nobody can speak to me. And that she's kind of, she's kind of over needing to be the strong one. And I think that is so real that she's like, I've dealt with shit because I had to. Not because I want to. And this is another situation now that has sort of fallen onto her where this decision was made kind of without her, without her like, I don't know, input necessarily. And now she's in this position where she has to be strong. And it's tough. They're in New York City right now.

They recorded the episode in New York. And this was supposed to be a couple's trip. Like Alexia and Marisol were supposed to be there with their respective husbands. And they planned this trip. Marisol says like six or eight weeks ago and Todd was supposed to be here. So that's another thing where it's like, you know, something that was on the calendar that's not happening anymore. And it's, it's tough. Alexia also claps back at people saying or suggesting that this is for a storyline.

She's like, I think that's disgusting that anyone would do something like this for a storyline. And she wishes it was only a storyline. Again, they're not filming right now. So, like, I don't know, like, what really would be the storyline in all of this. There have been some casting rumors that I've seen percolating in the last few days that perhaps Julia and Gertie are not going to be on next season of Real Houseways of Miami. I don't know how real any of that is. We're in kind of a weird, we're in a weird casting bubble right now where there are

rumors flying around about Miami, about Beverly Hills. about Potomac even, that all of these shows that should be sort of gearing up for filming, Atlanta too, I guess, even though I feel like I haven't even heard that much about Atlanta, which is a little bit troubling. But I'm always of the sort of opinion that I don't really like trust any sort of casting reports that I see online. Obviously, sometimes they end up being true. But that it's like when people are like, contracts have gone out.

And this lady, this girlie, this cheek. they're all coming back and she's holding a diamond and she's holding an apple and it's like we'll see I started seeing full time on on Twitter it's like oh this person has been cast as a full-time housewife on real houseways of Potomac and it's like half the time they don't even know when they're filming whether or not they're going to be full-time you know people can get clipped people can get chopped on the editing room floor people can get you know disappeared in the middle of filming you might be invited on that first cast trip. That doesn't mean you're going to be on the second one. So I don't know. I mean, it seems like Alexia and Marisol's positions are pretty safe on the show.

Alexia did at one point reference Larsa's post when she first, I guess, was breaking up with Marcus about like, should your friends unfollow your ex? And she was like, she's like, I don't know. That can be a topic for another episode. They are very funny. I mean, they're dynamic together. Like I said, this isn't a podcast that I listen to regularly, but they do, they make it fun. They keep it fun. Like halfway, maybe an hour into the episode, they just transition out of this like long, heavy conversation about Alexia's relationship status and then suddenly are just discussing how they feel about nude beaches for like 20 minutes. Because I guess some cruise line is now offering like a clothing optional cruise. And so they have this whole long conversation where they're like, they're like, oh, well, you know,

there's a nude beach in Miami and we live close to it. So we walk past sometimes and, you know, people are really just out there, like, putting it all out there. Marisol's like going on some tangent about how it's like the people with like saggy boobs that always take off their tops first. And it's like, how did we get out of we get here? But there was one little thing. So Marisol, in this whole conversation about nude beaches, you know, things are coming up like they're talking about where they've been, their experiences. Alexia is talking about how her and Todd, one time. I walked to this place in Miami that turned out to be a nude beach. And Marisol keeps trying to make little, like, jokes about Todd and stuff like that.

And Alexia literally is like, I'm going to get sued. Like, all of a sudden, three weeks ago, they were just like together. And now you can already tell on this podcast, she's trying to sort of like toe the line of like, obviously I'm not going to pretend that this guy doesn't exist that I am still legally married to have lived with for the last few years. But at the same time, like Marisol can. you shut the fuck up so I don't get a cease and desist. Like she says,

Alexia says something about this nude beach of Miami. And she's like, oh, Todd didn't ever go there, you know, because there's not hot guys. So like, Todd wouldn't want to go there. And Marisol's like, oh, sometimes it's nice to be the big, the big fish in the pond. And you see, he always had a really nice tan. And Alexis is just like, Marisol, Marisol, please. It's going to be all over page six. I don't know.

I mean, am I going to have to start listening to this podcast every week? Probably not, but maybe I'll dip in every now and then. But I do hope they get those cameras up

because clearly there's a lot happening even just with the two of them. And I'm curious to see, Alexia talks a lot about the friends that have been there for her, the people that she's been relying on. She talks, she has a small family,

you know, it's just like basically her boys and her. And so a lot of her friends have kind of taken on the role of being like that support system. And she doesn't really mention anyone in the cast besides Marisol. So I'm curious, I know she has other friends. Obviously somebody like Dr. Nicole has not been in her life forever.

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Generate images or videos of your thing. Make decks for presentations to show your thing. Whatever needs to be done for your thing, Canva can make it an even better and bigger thing. Canva, the thing that makes anything a thing. Okay, let's talk Summer House, because this season, I haven't paid enough attention to it. I mean, I've been watching, but I haven't given it enough time on the podcast. The Thursday night time slot makes it hard because it's like I record on Thursdays, then I don't record again until Monday.

So it's like, am I, am I recapping on Monday? Am I like, whatever. This is a first world problem. But we're all watching Summer House. I think we're all enjoying it. I've seen a lot of people, a lot of people loving it on social media. People are obsessed with West and a little bit less obsessed with Jesse. But we have two great new guys this season that are really bringing something interesting to the show.

Jesse, I guess, was absent at the most recent weekend that we watched. So he's, it feels like he's receded a little bit, but I think he's going to be coming back and hopefully having some, some good moments to the end of the season. But yeah, there's a lot to, there's a lot to get into. This, um, this, like, outer space party that they have over the course of two episodes, kind of, there's a lot going on. Lindsay and Carl are still kind of in this weird, back and forth space of like, they're still in, like, Babe land a lot, but then also kind of can't get on the same page about their really just like general compatibility. And I think this is what is surprising to me about watching this season and watching how they interact with each other is like, obviously I expected there to be like certain moments where they're really at odds. And we saw that earlier this season when she's, you know, accusing him of being not sober.

and they've had these big issues. But more and more, it's just like, aside from the specific fights and the specific arguments, they just like don't seem to be that on the same page about what they want from each other, what they want professionally, what they want out of life. Because when Lindsay sits Carl down, and first of all, having like the heart to heart with your fiance about your work situation and having kids in the future, or like this is not something you should be doing at like midnight at the house party when you're in like outer space costumes and Carl's hair is painted silver and you're wearing a pink wig and like Lindsay does not seem sober during this conversation. So that's probably like red flag number one. But then it's like they're talking about how Lindsay wants to be a stay at home mom when they have kids, which is like according to her in like, you know, 24 hours. And what is car? Carl going to be doing to provide for them because right now he like doesn't have a real job

and what does he want to do but also if he wants to work at lover boy like that's probably not the right answer and also like you know figure it out now because you said the end of summer and that's three weeks away and it's just like I think that they are both in a place where they you know like they equally are not right for each other like it's clear that it's coming from both directions in terms of like why they shouldn't be together But it just strikes me that in certain of these conversations that are like really pretty personal conversations, Lindsay just, she doesn't seem to be coming from a place of support and a place of like actually caring about Carl figuring out what Carl needs to do. And again, this is something where it's like, this is why you don't have this conversation when you're drunk at a party where it's like the conversation about Carl figuring out what he was. wants to do professionally, obviously a piece of that is money and income and like financial

support. But when you're somebody's partner, it's like, okay, let's, how can we like approach this holistically and figure out what you actually want to do so that you have that financial support coming in? Like to frame it as just like a, we need money. What are you doing to get money? It's like, that's just not, it's not the right way to approach it. I do think something that I am really liking this season is it feels like we're being honest about money and job situations and, like, professional fulfillment and all of that stuff. In a way that I'm not sure we've ever gotten on Summer House before, because going back to the early seasons, these people all had or mostly had, like, real kind of, normal jobs. And then as the season's developed, it's like, okay, your actual job is being a reality TV star. And then we're like, you know, doing side hustles and projects and things like that in

addition. But like who's actually going to work on a Monday? Not very many of us. And I feel like they have found a way this season to sort of like navigate that split in a way that feels a little more authentic because we have, there are different situations happening within the group. Obviously, Loverboy is a real company that Kyle is like really in charge of and is taking up a lot of his time and a lot of his energy and like they have employees and an office and like, you know, national distribution and like Lover Boy is a real company. It's not like it was in season three or something where it's like Kyle trying to make this happen out of his house. And so Amanda, she's kind of like figuring out where she fits and all of that. Kyle or Carl likewise is like trying to decide if he wants to come back

into this business. We have, you know, Sierra signing a new modeling contract and talking about how she wants to be working internationally. And I think that's something that it's like, even with her success on the show, it's like whether or not she's going to be successful as a model in New York and Paris and Milan is like not just in her control as a reality start. And I think that makes it feel like there are a little more stakes there. And then on the flip side, you have somebody like West, who is brand new to this show. As they're filming this season, he's not, like, famous. I'm quote unquote famous because are any of these people, like, truly famous who can say.

But, like, he doesn't have brand deals coming in. He's not getting paid, you know, several hundred thousand dollars to make a season of Summerhouse. So he's, like, out here doing job interviews and figuring out whether he wants to manage people and, you know, talking to his dad about how his interview went. And I think like that's relatable in a more kind of like down-to-earth way. But I also loved when Carl was talking to Kyle on this past week's episode about brand deals and income. And he's saying that so far this year, and so they're having this conversation in like August, so far this year, Carl has made 70,000 from doing sponsored posts on Instagram. But Lindsay, because she's a woman and has more followers and whatever, has made 150,000.

on Instagram. And these are the kind of numbers that I wish we were talking about on more of these shows. Because I get they're not going to fully tear down the fourth wall and be like, well, I get paid $40,000 per episode of Summerhouse. And Lindsay gets paid $45. But like that would be a bridge too far. I get it. But these people, this is what their jobs are. Like the fact that or the idea that Carl would be just like rocking up to like Deloitte and putting in an application.

for a job, that would be kind of past my suspension of disbelief at this point. For him to be talking about doing sponsored posts and whether or not he should like re-enter into some kind of partnership with lover boy, that feels like what his career options actually are. And so I'm glad that we're kind of not beating around the bush so much in terms of like, these people still need to make money and still have to like figure out where their income sources are going to be aside from just being on the show. But their job search is not going to look like what, you know, your 24-year-old, you know, business graduate job search is going to look like. Like, it's, there are kind of in a way limited options once you've been

on a reality show for eight seasons and this is like your entire life. There is kind of that question of like, okay, like what what skills do I still have? Like, what am I? What, what? am I actually doing in the world aside from going to the Hamptons like eight summer, eight weekends every summer and being filmed getting drunk or not drinking in Carl's case. I don't know, though. And then, I mean, the whole thing with Danielle, I don't know exactly how to feel about it. Because a couple weeks ago when she had the conversation with Paige about her relationship with Craig and how she was giving Craig nothing, that was really interesting and hearing.

Paige kind of be like, now I see where Lindsay was coming from last summer, because I don't feel like Danielle is coming from a place of like being supportive. And then that carrying on into the situation with Gabby, where Danielle tells Gabby that she's, you know, not putting herself out there. She's like, you know, self-sabotaging with this balloon guy who Danielle ends up fucking. It's like, okay, this, this is a whole thing. Like, you probably shouldn't be talking about this guy that you're both trying to hook up with. But then Danielle really like, she can. can't take any feedback right now because Paige says that Danielle is just being a little bit abrasive and that that is not really the energy that Gabby needs. And Danielle's like, well,

she knows that she's self-sabotaging. So if I say it, what's the problem? And it's like, right, but like there might be like a better way that we could deliver that or maybe just like talk about it tomorrow or whatever. Because seeing Gabby spend half an episode crying in the shower, it's depressing. And like, is Gabby my favorite person on this show? No, like, I I think that her contribution is like helpful, but not necessarily crucial. But I also kind of feel like Danielle is in the same position right now. And if I were Danielle, I think I would be treading a little more carefully with my relationships in the house. Because that is something I feel like after this season, it feels like we are going to need to do a little bit of tinkering with the summer house cast.

And I don't say that because this season hasn't been really good because it has been really good. because it has been really good. But I think that just what we've seen with Vanderpump Rules this season, I think is a valuable lesson for Summer House moving forward. Because when you have a show that relies on the concept that this is a group of friends who are spending time together because they want to, in theory, there are certain relationships and certain dynamics that no longer make sense. And I think that is something on Vanderpump Rules this season.

And it's been tricky to actually navigate the idea that this friend group would still be fully intact with, you know, Sandoval and Ariana and everyone else just like spending time together when they can't stand the side of each other. And I think that on Summer House, that's coming for us a little bit. Are Lindsay and Carl really going to be staying in the same house in the Hamptons all summer? it's hard to imagine a way that that could be justified behind the fourth wall without saying, well, we're still, we still both want to be on the show, so I guess we'll put up with it. That would be hard to justify. I think, you know, I don't know if they would consider moving to a format where there are a couple of different houses or where people kind of come and go a little more liberally over the summer.

I think that might be a way to sort of keep everyone in the fold. But then the question becomes, do we want to keep everyone in the fold? Like, does everyone, does this show make the most sense with everyone staying in some capacity? And I think that's what Danielle is kind of going to bump up against is that if we're looking at a different sort of arrangement with Lindsay and Carl, and Danielle is not on good terms with the rest of the women in the house. I mean, Paige and Amanda really are at odds with her right now. She's not particularly close to Sierra. She and Gabby have like this weird kind of, you know, they have a conversation.

They seem good. But then at the same time, Danielle made her cry last night. Like what's the actual, where are we with that? Danielle might find herself a little bit on an island, depending on what happens with Lindsay. And like, I don't know that Danielle's individual contribution to the show is enough to make it worth kind of like choosing her over other people. And that's not, I mean, I like Danielle. I think Danielle is a good presence in the house. But the page is looking like more of the main character than she ever has before.

And if so, if she's kind of like on the outs with that group, I don't know what we do there. I don't know. I'm excited to see how the season of Summerhouse ends. Definitely going to talk about it more. The reunion, I imagine, is going to be pretty zesty. But yeah, we'll check in. everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. If you have more thoughts, opinions, comments on what you want me to talk about in the next

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