Mention It All - Angie K Responds to Lisa Barlow’s Lawsuits on RHOSLC Ft. Angie K

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

On this week’s video episode, Dylan sits down with RHOSLC’s Angie K to talk about her evolution from Housewives newcomer to center snowflake holder. Angie opens up about her complicated friendship with Meredith Marks, why she felt pushed out of the group in the beginning, and how she really connected with Mary Cosby. Plus, she reacts to Lisa Barlow’s lawsuits, teases the chaos of the upcoming Greece trip, and why Season 6 might be RHOSLC’s wildest yet. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How are you feeling? Season 6. I'm ready to mention it all. I mean, it was great. It was fun. I feel like it was a great season for the entire cast. everybody played ball and it's going to be to you know I think it's going to be our best I am so happy to have you on the show you know so happy to have you just like being a housewife you do a great job at it oh thank you it's been a few years now I remember you know back when Angie Kay was just a friend of and we were like another Angie who's that now you're the center snowflake holder in the in the intro what is it like you know do you have to pinch yourself kind of looking back at this, you know, four or five years now that you've been around?

I do. And, you know, I just had this conversation with my husband. And he said, what makes your story greater is that you started at the bottom. And you really had to work your way into the group. And I think the greatest stories are always the ones. And, you know, the things that you accomplish are the things you had to work the hardest for. It's really no small feat coming into this group. And so, you know, coming into a cast that was, that started at the same time. I think it takes some time to find your place to kind of sit back and observe the friendships and the personalities and understand everyone and find, you know, the best way to be a true friend to everyone and also be your authentic self, stand your ground without crossing the line.

It's a fine line. Do you feel like there was a specific moment or like a time where you felt a shift to where you were more of like a core part of the group versus like the new girl who's trying to kind of like figure out where to get in there? Yeah, you know, that's an interesting question because I know I'm going to go back to the champagne dump. You know, for me, that was kind of like a moment of you're a friend and you stay in your in your friend place. Yeah. And I think I had to follow that up with, you know, I'm not going to tolerate this and I'm not going to be treated like this because I wouldn't do that in real life. So I think that was a moment where I finally had to have the courage to say what

I was really thinking. And there's a little bit of imposter syndrome when you come into this group. So that's why I say it's not easy. And I think it really took me until season four to feel like I am a part of this group and I did earn my way here and I am a good friend and I deserve to be here. I think when you're new, a lot of people try and push you out. So it's hard. not to be made to feel that way, but you just have to remember who you are, what you stand for, and why you were cast for this show, you know, that you checked all the boxes. And I think Heather Gay gave me some of the best advice. She said, bring your external thoughts forward because you're hilarious. And that's where I really felt like I started to grow on the show. You know,

now I'm being paid to say funny things that have been inside me that I only secretly told all my gay friends or, you know, like my best girlfriends, because I, I know. I know. knew that it was like so crazy, but I'm being paid to be myself. I'm on being successful, being on a show, being myself. And I, it's pretty incredible. So. Yeah, I think that's a good point that when you're new, it's like you, you don't want to piss too many people off, but also you can't fade into the background. And so I think I remember like, I think season four, it was like that around like the Palm Springs trip, like the Trixie Motel, like that kind of time frame, I feel like was when, from like a viewer perspective, it was like, oh, yeah, like, Angie's like,

she's like a part of this for real. Yeah. And, you know, just looking back on that time when Meredith yelled, you can leave, when Meredith's mad, she's pretty scary. And I'm not going to lie. I remember it took everything in me to stay in that seat and say, you know what? You deserve to be here. Yeah.

And don't let her push you out. And that was. You're like, okay, I can leave. Yeah. I can if I want, but I'm not going to. Even though I was uninvited. But that was a pivotal moment for me. me of, you know what, stay. There were times on that trip where I was like holding tears back

because it was so uncomfortable. I felt really isolated. I felt like people were trying to push me out. And I thought, what am I doing? Like, why am I here? You know? And that was some of the hardest times. But I think you triumph from those hard moments. Yeah. Season six kicks off with you in the driver's seat, literally. We're in the RV. We're on this camping trip. What I thought was really interesting, You know, Heather's kind of giving us a rundown of all of the lingering conflicts and feuds going into this season. But everybody was invited on the RV camping trip. And I'm wondering for you, was it important to kind of try your best to start the season off on a good note with everybody, knowing that there's so much, you know, history and baggage in the group? I mean, I'm a believer in, I invite everyone and then whoever decides to show up shows up, right?

then it's not on me. I extended the invite to everyone in hopes that we could all have a great time and start the season off. Right. Your relationship with Meredith has been very interesting, to say the least, over the last few years. Coming into the new season, she showed up, she went fly fishing. Where do you kind of see your dynamic with Meredith? You know, I feel like we both came into the season knowing we cannot keep fighting anymore, right? We need to move on. It's like, it's not fun for her and I. It's not fun for the viewers. And it's just, it's just time to move forward, you know, not stay stuck in that, in what we were in, in that place we were in. And we really, I think, tried our hardest to stay in a good place and focus our energy elsewhere. And I feel like

she focused her energy on someone else's season, which was a great relief for me. And so, yeah, I've gotten to know her in a different light and I'm still getting to know her. But it was. Yeah, it's interesting. Like the longer that you're, you know, around the group and on a show like this, it's like you do sort of start to see more different sides of everyone. And I think we've seen more sides of you, you know, as a friend, as a mother, as a, you know, businesswoman, all of that.

But like also in your relationships with the other women, I'm sure that you feel like you're kind of getting different sides of them as the years go on. Yeah, absolutely. I think understanding everyone really helps maybe you have more empathy for why they act a certain way or you kind of understand what makes them tick, what sets them off. So that's part of evolving, I think, on the show and just growing, you know, your relationships growing, you growing as a person. And it would be a waste if you're on this show every year and you're not evolving, right?

I mean, I've watched season one and I thought, wow, they've all come such a long way. And I was hoping the same for me, you know, that everyone becomes more confident, more confident and speaking their truth and saying what they think. And that's what makes the show great. Yeah, I thought it was in the, in the premiere episode, when Whitney was kind of open about what happened with her business and how difficult that was for her and her family. Like, I was like, that actually, in this group of like entrepreneurial women, like,

that's something that I think a lot of people wouldn't be honest about. Like those types of things, I think, can really open up a new side of you, even if it's not a fun thing to share. Well, and that's what the show is about. I mean, girlfriends sharing their experiences, sharing not only the positive, all the great things that are happening for them, but some of the challenges and the negative things.

That's why we're there for each other. And I thought that was such a perfect touching moment around the campfire that we were real friends. And she was comfortable enough and trusting enough of the group to share something really difficult. And it's not all perfect, Like, you know, whether it's financially, your marriage, whatever's going on, she was vulnerable and real and raw.

And as a business owner, business is tough, you know, taking a risk to be an entrepreneur and provide opportunity for other people. You know, you really put yourself out there. And I thought it was so relatable. And I was really proud of her. And I think that's what this show is about is honesty. It's a reality show about real life. Yeah.

Not faking that everything is perfect. Yeah. That was kind of in response to this whole conversation that had been happening about Lisa. and everything, you know, there's been stuff in the news, legal things, business things. For you coming into the season, obviously, you were aware of some of this stuff that had been happening. How did you kind of think about, okay, I'm sure this is going to come up on the show. What's the right approach? You and Lisa have had your own issues.

Like, where did you kind of, you know, put that in the list of things for this season? Well, I think to start off, you know, as a business owner, I'm, am not happy to see anyone struggling in their business. Of course, you know, you wish success for everyone. I feel bad that I had no idea about any of it, having been friends with her for years and talking to her on the phone every day and not knowing that five lawsuits existed. I mean, that was the opposite of what Whitney just shared was that she's going through something really tough and probably extremely stressful at home. I mean, look, I've never been sued, but I can't imagine It's fun, getting sued by five people.

Probably not. Right? Yeah. So I have to say, how did I have to find out about this in the press? It wasn't like it had been going on for a week. It's been going on for years. So I was a little taken aback that I didn't know anything. All I always knew was the great things going on for Lisa.

But, you know, friendships are supposed to go two ways. And I think if you open up to a friend, they're more likely to open up to you about their challenges. So I wish I had known more. It made me feel bad that I had to find out in the press because then the person, meaning Lisa, doesn't get to tell the story their way. Yeah. And it's hard because it's like, you know, Lisa maybe didn't get to tell it her own way. But then you also have to wonder, like, would she have ever chosen to, you know, to divulge that with you guys?

You know, I mean, I believe she would not. It's just, you know, Lisa, you hear the fun things, you know, hey, I just got a G-wagon or I'm building a house or, you know, sun dance or, you know, I think, you know, we're looking at private jets. I fly first class. Like, this is what you hear. You don't hear about any of the challenges. So I don't believe she would have said that. But it's harder again. We were going to hear about it anyway.

So I wish I would have known so I could be more supportive. But finding out that way, you just kind of feel like she's keeping something, you know, like there's a saying it's not about the crime. It's about the cover up, right? It's like not that, you know, it's criminal. I'm just saying, you know, just if you're. Yes, of course. It's just that it was hard to find out about it and not know her side.

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It's like all you had to do is turn on Instagram, turn on Twitter and it was there. But one thing that I do know and I've got to know about Heather is she stays off the internet and as off of Twitter as much as possible because it's negative, and I think she wants to do the show in a positive light, and that stuff brings her down. So she truly, I'll ask her about something to this day that's not, you know, the lawsuits, but something else, and she has no idea.

So I think she seems to stay off the internet and really does kind of, was truly clueless in the moment. I didn't believe she was, but it's a healthier way to do the show. I know when I stay off it, it's just better not. to know or care what people are saying. There was a time last year, her and I went to dinner during an episode, and it was great. We didn't know what anyone thought about us. We didn't see what anyone wrote. So I think she's smart. And now that I know, she truly didn't know. What's your, what is your kind of social media mindset? Obviously, there's so much noise around the show. But even like,

you know, aside from the show, just kind of how do you navigate that, especially having a teenage child? You know, that's a whole thing on social media. What's your kind of viewpoint there? Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm starting to, I'm starting to really understand why Heather doesn't like to read it. It's hard not to sometimes because, like, your page is hilarious. Like, I love reading the funny stuff and the memes, and I love knowing that I made someone laugh or that I brought joy to somebody in the episode.

You know, some of, like, your worst moments end up becoming your greatest moment in a meme later. So, but I have also learned if someone calls you a queen and if someone says you're, know. The devil. You cannot double down on either one's side. You have to find somewhere in the middle where you know who you are. You have to have a strong sense of self. And no, you're not a queen because everyone says you're a queen. We love that. We love to hear the love and the positive stuff. But the next day, you could be the worst person in the world. So having a strong sense of self is the key and not really just not really, you know, putting too much into what people think about you. Kind of keeping that central focus and not letting your, you know, getting too far in either direction.

Exactly. And if I see something negative, I just stop reading it and just go by it. And then I'll always end on a positive note. I'll always read something really sweet because I love the commentary from the fans that's positive. And I'll always end on a positive note and just scroll by anything negative. It's not like I don't let myself keep reading it. You guys had a very, a very talked about season finale last year with the text messages. in Mexico. I am so curious kind of, obviously you guys had the reunion after that, but how you sort of moved past that, especially, you know, Bronwyn read a tough message that you had written about her. How did you guys kind of start to work on moving past that? You know, here's the deal. I think we could all think of the craziest insults. I mean, I'm a shade assassin. That's part of my brand, right and I always say I sent Ron run a birthday text and I thought you know one minute you're talking about someone stuck in their way to the top and next thing you're like happy birthday hope you have a great day

hope you're having fun in New York you know I think our cast is pretty good about moving on it's not my brand to go after people's businesses or marriages so I I know my insults are not the greatest but the insults when you know there's a banana peel or hot dog involved I think people can move past that kind of stuff and our cast for some some reason is all pretty great about moving on, you know. I think Bronwyn, too, like last season, obviously she was new to the group. You've been there before. And I think she obviously not everybody loved everything she did last season in the group,

but she did make an impact. She, you know, stood up for herself in a lot of situations. And I think, you know, maybe that you can take a step back and be like, okay, like, she put in a solid effort and maybe we'll get along better. Yes. In the future, but... Yes. Yeah.

No, I think she's great for the show. I see what you're saying. I think she looks back and there's a lot of things she too would do differently. You know, the necklace thing. I think you lose trust of not only the women but the viewers. And I think she's trying to move differently. And I think she is a smart woman and she'll watch herself and hopefully do things differently and really realizing that it's the friendships that are important here.

Like without a friend or a true friend or someone's trust, you'll never succeed on this show. Yeah, I think of the necklace. thing, you know, that was kind of a, just like a weird situation that it's like looking back, it's like, okay, that was like, why did we do that whole thing? And I think similarly with Brittany, who was also new last season, some of the way that she just sort of like portrayed herself to the group, it's like, why did we need to do all that? Yes. Yes. I mean, it's like the old, it's a cliche, but honesty is the best policy. And once, you know, the viewers find out that you're lying or that you're putting on some kind of, you're, you're putting on some kind of,

of this persona, you lose them. Once you're like the girl who cried announcement. Yeah, exactly, right? Yes. Do we know if she and Jared Osmond, what the status is these days? I'm not even going to lie, but I've seen her twice. And one time she was talking to him and the next time she wasn't. So I just think that's going to be the story of her life.

Sounds about right. Maybe they're engaged. Maybe they're not. Exactly. You just never know from week to week. I love that. How is it being kind of close with Mary, knowing that she is somebody who, as Heather puts it in the premiere, like nobody really knows where Mary stands with everyone. She can be a little bit hot and cold.

What has that been like for you kind of having that relationship with her? You know, I think the thing for me is I've realized if we ever have an issue and she is cold with me, she always comes back around. And I know she does love me. She says I'm like a sister to her. So when she gets upset, I always know. you know, she needs space, but she gets over things and she moves on. I mean, she's actually very forgiving. And I say that because I've seen some of the positions that she's been put in.

And she talks about it in the first episode about things that were said about her. And they flashed to it. And part of me is like, wow, how did you ever move on with these people after they said this about you? But she talks about forgiveness and it's her, you know, it's part of her religion. And she does it for herself, you know, for her own help. So she moves on. I mean, I know I get on her nerve sometimes. And like she said, I get on her nerve.

She gets on mine. And it's true. And we're just learning, you know, to be honest with each other and still be able to move forward. I think watching last season, I can speak for a lot of people saying, like, how how nice it was to see the bond between you two and how much people were rooting for that, especially with what Mary was going through at home. You know, that it really was lovely to see you kind of step up and be that kind of support for her. Yeah, and I was so happy that I could be there for her. And, you know, she was going through a lot. And I saw a very soft side of her. And that's the side that I always think, you know, that is Mary. You know, I know sometimes she puts up a wall. But, you know, when she takes that wall down, she's very soft. She's very sensitive and tender. And she gets her feelings hurt, you know, because when she loves her friends, she loves her friends. And she's, I mean, you know, she doesn't let a lot of people in. So we were talking about five years ago, I don't know if you would have got Mary Coswell. be on that RV. I know, never. Yeah. She said, mm-mm, mm-mm. Well, when she told me that she grew up going in RVs, I just saw, are you kidding me? She said, yeah, why are you shocked? I'm like, well, because

look at you. Like, of course I'm shocked. She's like, I wear couture, honey. Yeah. Yeah, it was, almost like, if she finds out I have an RV, she's just going to be like Angie Who again. No, but it's like Angie has layers. You know, you can do the high fashion and do the camping trip. Yes, yeah, really. I know there's, I'm versatile. I laughed so hard. seeing that Brittany had showed up with a bikini under her coat. It was just like, oh, no. I was like, oh, my goodness. Next time I'll just have to, you just, she really took it literal.

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later in the season you guys go to Greece. Yes. To the motherland. Can you believe it? Can you believe it? What was that like for you finding out that you guys were going to get to go on that trip, sort of being able to bring everyone there? It's, you know, people are just so excited. It was unreal. Honestly, it was like a dream. I just, I know that they wanted it.

I just never thought it would really happen. And to have all the ladies out there and them to, I feel like they got to see a different side of me. They may or may not have met a family member, which was pretty spectacular. You know, just to see, you know, the culture, the food, the views. that the reason that I love Greece and the reason that anyone that's been there just falls in love with Greece, Greeks, and just the country, there was so much to offer, you know, and I think we do a lot of quintessential Greece. So it's going to be gorgeous, you know, on camera.

I'm excited to see it. I haven't been to Greece, but it's like, it's up there on the bucket list. Oh, every celebrity that all the who's who was there this year. And I just thought, oh, look at Greece is on the map. Yeah. And now the housewives are really going to put it on the map. Is there anyone that slides into your DMs and they're like, hey, like, I'm going to be in Greece. Like, where do I, where are the spots? Yeah. All the time. And my family's from Crete.

I will say Crete and Hanya are really the best places to go in Greece. I mean, I've done other little islands. But those are, those are the funness, the most special, the people are warm. So like Mekanos is maybe like a little overrated. Well, okay. I don't know. I've been to Mekinos, but see, now I'm in my 50s. I went when I was in my 20s.

So I won't say that. It's probably for different ages. Okay. Different seasons of life. That's what I've heard is that it's great because there's so many islands and each one kind has its own flavor, its own scene. Yeah, Mekanos is like you go there to party, have fun, be out late. And now Sean and I take a lecture and so it's a different experience.

So I take that back. You've got Mekinos and Santrini. You've got to go. Did you feel like, were you like hoping that the ladies would be on best behavior when they were, you know, in Greece? I mean, I was hoping because I just thought I want to be able to come back to this country. I want to be able to be let in. And I'm not with a mustache and a whole disguise.

A disguise next time I come. But yeah, I think that, hey, the Greeks are known for their drama, right? Yeah. And some Greek tragedies. The way they cut together, the like Super T's trailer for the season, Greek tragedy. Wasn't it epic? I was right in there. Yes.

So, yes, the Greeks are known for their drama. And the ladies did bring the drama from Salt Lake to Greece. I love a couple times that you've done. a Greek word of the day. Could you give us a Greek word of the day, NGK? What should our Greek word be? Oh, my God, I don't know. Water?

What's the Greek word for water? Nero. Nero. So water. I guess that's a good one because I'm drinking water right now. So Nero. I love a hydrated queen. Or we've got a snowstorm coming tonight.

So you would say snow. Hjonee. In Utah, right? Yes. Okay. Well, I mean, not really, but the snowflakes are coming. Oh, yes. Okay.

I was like, is it snowing in Salt Lake Harbor? No, no, no. Okay, I got you. Another very exciting thing coming up that you are a part of is Wife Swap, the Real House Wives Edition. I'm so excited. It was announced. We can finally talk about it.

We have seen the trailer and you are, you're going to Idaho. I am going to Idaho. I thought that I was going. I didn't know where I was going, but it's five hours away from Salt Lake, but it felt like I was miles and miles away from home. So it's like no electric. No running water. Did they give that much information?

Was it obvious? I mean, we see you doing something with the toilet. It was pretty humble, humbling. I said, hey, my dad and mom are from villages in Greece. And it was, you know, some of the luxuries that I have at home and are, it was very similar to living probably how my parents grew up. What was that like getting, hearing about the opportunity to do this show? obviously it's a, you know, it's a iconic reality franchise, but they haven't done it with housewives before. You guys are the first. Was that an easy yes for you? Or were you like, sorry,

wait, what are you talking about? It was an easy yes for me because I thought, you know, I want people to get to see me as a family woman. You know, you only get little snippets of that on housewives. And then you're in conflict with women. So to be in the home, you know, with small children, I mean, to put me in that position, that is where I shine. I'm I love children. I love family. The family that I was placed with was incredible to be living another woman's life for three days. It's really eye-opening.

I think there's moments where we feel sorry for ourselves. You know, it's like you're bombarded with laundry and a to-do list and, you know, lessons and all the crazy stuff that comes along with motherhood and then business and then the show on top of it. I had just come down from filming our show for 12 weeks, Housewives. for 12 weeks. I had like a week break and then I started this show and I was still like I still hadn't really come down from like or caught my breath. And so to go into this new show feeling overwhelmed on all levels in business and at home, I think I was able to be more raw and vulnerable.

Yeah. And just kind of step into another woman's shoes and realize, hey, she has it hard too. She has a huge to do list. It's just a different to do list. I thought, oh, this is going to be relaxing compared to the city life. Yeah. But it wasn't. I think that's, I mean, even even within housewives, it's like everybody has their own challenges. Everybody has their own, you know, bad days and things to worry about.

And like, I think, you know, with your group, you guys have, you know, been such a strong show for now six seasons. But like everybody's on their own kind of roller coaster. And you have to kind of understand that to really form really. Yeah, it's life. And, you know, also, for me to be put place with children that I just immediately bonded with. I didn't expect to fall in love with this family. But I immediately bonded with these children and I loved my swap husband. And I just, it was such a great experience. I feel like I left, you know, a better person than I walked in. Do you think anybody else in the

Salt Lake cast on maybe a future season of Wife Swap? Who do you think would be, maybe would have the toughest time. The toughest, well, see, I was put in a position where I had to do some really hard things. So Lisa. That's what I was going to say, no shade, but I think it would be really hard. I mean, you have to, you've got to be, you got to roll your sleeves up. Yeah, I didn't wear makeup by day two. I just thought, you know what?

I'm not, I'm in the middle of nowhere. I'm not coming out in full glam and false eyelashes and lip liner, you know. So I just washed it all. away. I didn't want to waste their water. I didn't want to be well. I had I had chores. I had children. And you have to really be able to peel back all the layers and and just, you know, lean into it. And I think that would be hard for her, you know. I just, and you got to be willing to do some heavy lifting. You got to take the shit literally. And I go to the gym. So I was, and take the shit. Take the shit out. If you saw the trailers. So yeah, it's, it's not easy. We got a,

I'm excited for, you know, whatever is coming up. in the future, we got to get some of the solid ladies on traders, too. I think that's next on the list. I think that's next on the list. I don't know why that hasn't happened yet. I know. Somebody will figure it out. I know. Right. It looks so fun. I know. I feel like your castle fits would really be a lot of fun on traders. I know. Is it the fashion and all of it, right? It's just the theatricality. The theatrics. Heather would love like a, you know, a shady table game. Oh, yes. That's her specialty. That's her specialty. She brings us together with those games. With this season. With this You know, we're just getting started, so much left to come.

How are you feeling kind of about this season rolling out as a whole? Is there anything you're nervous about? Is there anything you're, you know, really excited for people to see how, how's the kind of mindset right now? You know, I feel like I, you know, shared a lot of my personal life, my family. I am so blessed that I've always supported my family. And in turn, my family is so wonderful about filming with me because you can't get to know someone if their family is not all in, right? Getting to know your aunts or your parents or siblings, that helps the audience understand who you are. So I was blessed to have family members film

with me. I was blessed to go to Greece and share my roots. So I think the audience will have a better understanding of me. You know, the things I don't love, I know negative things got brought up in the first episode, but to me, if you're going to bring something up, it's got to be factual, living, breathing documents, which I still don't do that. But, you know, I don't love, I think there's some rumors and things that are brought up

that are falsehood, and I don't think that's a really nice way to play this game. You know, I don't do that. I'm just saying in general, those are the things that I dislike about filming, and it happens every year,

and I think, you know, it's a game that you can only keep playing it for so many years, you know, got to level up and come with truth, it's not what you hear from, you know, your, your friend in the grocery store or someone at church or someone in your DMs or your neighbor.

It's like, you know, come with truth because when you say things out loud, it does matter. Yeah. You know, it does. I can't wait to see it. Thank you so much for being. Yeah. It's going to be great. Best one yet.

Best one yet. Yeah. Thanks, Angie. Thank you for having me. Thanks everyone for watching. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool.

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