Mention It All - Another Todd Bites The Dust (RHOSLC, Southern Charm, RHOBH)

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Another week comes to an end, with an explosive bit of news regarding one of the bleakest Housewives marriages. After dealing with that, Dylan gets into storytime about two fever dream experiences from his weekend: Britani Bateman’s cabaret debut, and Peacock’s Reality Hot Seat taping. Then, he catches up on this season of Southern Charm, with a breakdown of what’s happening with the guys (chaos, as usual), and whether the drama with the girls is finally compelling. Later, he debriefs the latest episodes of RHOBH and RHOSLC, with Kyle (mostly) opening up about her relationship situation, and SLC’s Greece trip off to a somewhat frustrating start. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, boo. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast, and it's one of our final Fridays of the year.

And what's that sound? Divorce bells are ringing. It sounds like we have a third Todd divorce incoming of the year. Last night, I was, as I lay my head down on the pillow, I got a text. And what was it? There was news that Bronwyn Newport and Todd Newport is his name also. Bronwyn and Todd of Salt Lake City fame reportedly confirmed to be going their separate ways. Now, what?

Bradley, Todd Bradley, thank you. We've prayed for days like this. You know, I love Bronwyn. I saw Bronwyn just last weekend. We'll get into it. But there have been rumors earlier this week that at their reunion taping last week for Salt Lake City that Bronwyn had made an announcement, ting, ting, ting, ting, that she and Todd had separated and, you know, were splitting up. Now, when I first saw it earlier this week, I wasn't sure whether to believe it. I wasn't going to talk about it if it was just some, you know, Twitter account with 12 followers.

It was like, sources are saying, but now it's on page six. It's on, it's on all the outlets. There are sources speaking on it. And let's face it, if you talk about something at the reunion taping, obviously we have not seen the reunion yet, but there's quite a few people in that room when the reunion is getting taped. There's, you know, editors, producers, people watching it. It's hard for something to stay, like, truly secret for, you know, a couple months that it's going to be until the reunion airs. But yeah, some of the sources are saying that Bronwyn was, you know, kind of taken aback at watching this season and the way that Todd is treating her and speaking to her and sort of seeing that and made her want to leave. I don't know how accurate sort of the storytelling around it at this point is because it is all anonymous sources and things like that.

As we're recording right now, Bronwyn has not commented on these reports. So I, it seems like it's true. And the one thing I just hope is that, well, first of all, I hope that everybody's, you know, like, happy, healthy, whatever. Like, go Gwen, team Bronwyn always. But I really hope that Bronwyn is still going to be rich. Because, okay, I don't want to sound shallow. And I don't think it's shallow if it's not me. Like, I'm not rich and that's okay.

But, like, did anybody watch Desperate Housewives? And if so, do you remember the season where Gabrielle was kind of broke? it wasn't fun. Watching the like fashion girlie suddenly not be able to bring the fashions anymore. I mean, we went through that with Erica a few years ago, but now she's back to wearing her like Carmen San Diego Couture in the confessionals. I don't know exactly where the money's coming from. But I just don't, I don't want like a broke win storyline.

I hope that whatever situation she and Todd her in that she, you know, makes out like a bandit and gets to keep all the couture and gets to go shopping as much as she wants. And I hope that, you know, happy, healthy, all of those things. But in 2026, we are going into 2026, three Todd's lighter. Because as people have pointed out, Todd Napola, cut, it's a rap. Alexi is free. Todd Tucker, it's a rap. Candy is free after a decade plus.

I mean, Todd Tucker is not, you know, as bad, I guess you could say is the other two. And now a third Todd. Todd, what's his last name? Bradley. Thank you. Another Todd bites the dust. Look, I mean, watching Salt Lake City this week, like, seeing Bronwyn yet again getting ready to go on a trip with these ladies and having to talk to like Todd the Toad while he's like,

well, it seems like these women are going to, it seems like you're going to have fight again. I don't want to watch Bronwyn explain to Todd for the 45th time why she's going on her work trip where, yes, there's going to be yelling, but there's also going to be Cartier watches and fabulous views of Santorini and glam and fighting and all those good things. It's like, if Bronwyn wants to be here, let her be here. Don't make her feel bad for doing her job. She does it well, and we thank her for it. But that's what's going on with Bronwyn and Todd allegedly, reportedly, seemingly confirmed that they are headed for Splitsville. We will see what happens as the Salt Lake City reunion unfolds in the new year.

I now am even more excited than I was before. But I have had a busy week of Housewives' activities. Last weekend, I did have the pleasure of attending Brittany Bateman's cabaret debut at 54 below, which some people have clocked is also the venue where Countess Luann once upon a a time made her cabaret debut. 54 below is, in fact, where Dorinda heckled the Giovanni. And so it felt important to be in that room. And so Brittany did two shows.

She had a show on Friday and a show on Saturday. I did attend the Saturday show. So technically, I was not at the debut of the debut, but it was still the debut. You get it. But sadly, what it meant, so it was a great show. Brittany did a great job. The one thing that I was bummed about is that Friday night, you're not. may have seen on social media.

There was a surprise performance with a few of the Salt Lake City women, with Angie and Heather and Whitney doing the Mean Girls jingle bell rock in the like slutty Santa outfits. And Bronwyn was there filming like the Amy Polar in Mean Girls. It looked cute. I've heard it was a bit sloppy. They could have rehearsed a couple more times. But so Saturday night when I went, we didn't get the Housewives cameos, which was a

little bit of a bummer, but it was still a great show, except for one moment. Because we got, instead of Housewives' jingle bell rock performance, we got a Britney and Jared duet. And, you know, when you like exchange something at a store and it's like, oh, something of like equal or lesser value, I would say compared to the Housewives jingle bell rock number, the Jared and Britney, oh, holy night duet was of lesser value. That doesn't mean that I'm not grateful. You know, she brought him on stage and he brought up uni. Of course, that unicorn has been, you know, dragged across the world at this point.

I hope that Bill DeBair is getting a check at this point because it really just uni is carrying. But so she brought him up on the stage and then she insisted that this duet they sang was unplanned, that he had no idea she was going to ask him to sing with her and that they had not rehearsed it once. They did have like harmony parts that they were singing with each other. And at the end, he seemed to like forget his harmony. And they kind of had to like work it out in real time. I don't know if I 100% buy that they had never once sung this song together before. But whatever.

I'm not here to fact check the Britney Bateman cabaret. I would say that the just in terms of vocal performance and overall vibes, that duet was the low point of the show. So I would just say, Brittany, if you are, if you're working on. taking the show on the road or doing further performances. Ditch the Jared duet. Nobody wants that. It was incredibly cringe. But the rest of the show was really good.

She did a duet with her daughter, Olivia. Both of her daughters were there. I felt bad because I posted the video of her and Jared singing together. And a lot of people in the comments were like picking Jared over her daughters again. Or like, man, her daughters must be so sad to see this. And I'm like, I don't want to put myself in the headspace of her daughter. daughters, but, like, they were in the room supporting their mom, so, like, I think it's fine. But Olivia and Brittany sang, let me be your star from Smash, which, like, great song.

They sounded good. Olivia was, like, clearly nervous. She was like, this isn't what I normally do, so, like, be nice. She sounded great. I do think, knowing what we know about Brittany and Olivia's relationship, choosing a song that is about two women. competing for a role. It's an interesting choice. You know, like, who's the Karen? Who's the Ivy? Who's the Catherine McPhee Foster? Who's the Megan Hilty? No, they both did a great job.

They sounded lovely. There were some genuine, like, really great vocal moments for Brittany in this show. My two favorites, she sang, now that I've seen her from Miss Saigon, which she performed on the national tour in the 90s. And she sounded great, like, really, just like a great moment. She also sang Losing My Mind from Follies, which is one of my favorite musical theater songs. And she sounded great. And then for me, as a real musical theater fan, bringing up Will Swenson, who is a Broadway, a Broadway icon, I would say. And they met at BYU back in the day.

They both went to school there for musical theater. They worked together at Disney World. and they also were both on the tour of Miss Saigon together in the 90s. So they go way back in these theater circles because remember, this is like Britney's bread and butter from back in the day. But also, importantly, Will Swenson is married to Audra McDonald. And if you are not fully enmeshed in the theater world, Audra McDonald is the only person to have ever won six Tony Awards. she, I believe also holds the record for most performance nominations. She is like the Michael Jordan of Broadway actors.

She is like legendary. There is nobody, like untouchable. And Audra fucking McDonald was in the audience at 54 below for Britney Bateman's cabaret. Truly like we were sitting at, it's the kind of venue where there's like little, little like bistro tables that you're seated at and they, you know, there's like food and drinks and stuff. But it's a, it's really intimate space. And I was sitting there with my friend Matthew for the show. And we were seated at a table with two other, you know, lovely gentlemen. And we, somebody just says, Audrey McDonald is here. This was before the show. So we didn't know that Will was going to come out and perform. And literally, like,

the way my head just whipped around. And there's Audrey sitting in a little, like a nice table, kind of in the back, like off to the side, a comfortable spot where she wasn't, you know, going to get bombarded. Just, you know, ponytail and glasses, a nice night out supporting her man. He came out and played guitar. It was just like crazy. Just crazy. And I've seen her on stage. And so just like, wait, sorry, you're here? Insane. But congratulations to Brittany. I mean, she, she wants it bad. And I, the one thing I was saying was she talked about, there was. like a funny little bit at the beginning where it said like Chicago auditions on the screen. And she came out and sang like, you know, 10 seconds of a couple of Countess Luann's songs.

And then the voice was like, oh, can we hear a little something harder? Nice little dig. So there was like a Chicago reference. She named checked Whitney Levitt. And then somebody asked, she did a Q&A portion, like what her dream role that's currently on Broadway would be. and she said Madeline in Death Becomes Her, which she also sang one of the songs from. So, like, Brittany wants it. The one thing is, like, does being a two-season friend of on a Real Housewives show in 2025

give you the amount of name recognition or notoriety that it would take to be, like, Roxy in Chicago? And obviously she has a theater background, so it's not like she would be, you know, completely plucked out of the blue and put in this show for no reason. But I just like, it's like if she was like 10% more famous, I feel like she would be a no-brainer. But I'm like, I don't know. We'll see, but it was so fun. I was really thrilled to be in the room for that, just a lot of fun. And she did sound great.

And I think, you know, that it's like, what's the Kurt quote from Glee where it's like she, say what you want about her, but my God, the girl can sing. And then Sunday night, that was Saturday night. And then Sunday night, I was a whist off to the NBC sports studios in Stanford, Connecticut for the inaugural Sunday night football reality hot seat alt cast taping. And this was, if Britney Bates, if Britney Baitman, Cabaret was a fever dream. I felt like I was having like full, you know, I don't know, tuberculosis hallucinations on Sunday night because I was there with my, my friends Abby Bonadies and Emily Schwartz, who are great content creators and were always at these Bravo

events together and they made great videos on Sunday night as well. We were driven to Connecticut at 5 p.m. It's already dark, of course, because we're in like the coldest to December on record, maybe. We're in Connecticut. We are brought into this studio, which is normally the NBC sports basketball studio, but they had like joshed it into a housewives winter wonderland for the night. And this show, which, you know, NBC has Sunday night football every week. They were trying out this thing with peacock where it's like a reality themed alternate broadcast hosted by Justin Sylvester, who we love from E and he's been on the Today Show a bunch this year, even though he don't get the permanent job. congratulations to Chanel Jones.

That's a whole other thing. We won't get into it. And then Heather Gay, Boston Rob, and Kate Chastain were like the panelists for this show. So if you're wondering, like, what is Heather Gay doing on a show about football? The answer is yes. Like, correct? What is she doing on a show about football? It was a little bit, you know, it was loose.

It was a fun time. We were sometimes talking about what was going on in the game. A lot of the times we weren't. Boston Rob was, you know, maybe sort of dissociating at some points. I don't know if he really knew why he was there. It was the randomest experience probably that I have ever participated in. And I'm glad they did it. I think there were some things that went really well about it.

I think there were some things that maybe could be tweaked in a future iteration. In general, it was just like such a funny thing to experience in real life. because we had a little bit of time with the hosts in advance to make content with and shoot some videos. And so it was nice. They were great to work with. And then they had so many other people coming on this broadcast, though, because so West was at the game in Kansas City as the sideline reporter. And first of all, West is a true champ because he was out there. And Betches was doing this, we've been doing this tailgate thing at a few NFL games.

games throughout the season with barefoot wines. And we were at the Kansas City game on Sunday. Obviously, I wasn't there. But hearing just from everybody who was there that it was so fucking cold and West was on the sidelines from before the game started till the end, he was wearing a denim jacket and no gloves. He had a beanie on, which is great. But like, you could see every time they cut to him throughout the game, like his face was

a little redder. He, just like the spirit was a little bit drained. out of his eyes. And also, Kansas City played really poorly and lost the game. And West is a Chiefs fan. So you could tell that, like, the morale was flagging a little bit by the end of the game. But he did a great job. I mean, he has worked in sports for a long time.

He is a big Kansas City fan. So it really made sense to have him there. He interviewed Donna Kelsey on the field before the game, which is just like, she's going to be a traitors. Can't wait to see that. But they had Bronwyn was there as, like, a fashion correspondent. She did a great job. Melissa Gorga came.

out with a plate of sprinkle cookies, and Boston Rob being explained in real time the lore behind sprinkle cookies truly, like, he did not know what the fuck was going on. They brought out also half of the summer house cast. So Kyle, Carl, and Sierra were there as well as two of the newbies on the upcoming season. And in this broadcast, they unveiled the season 10 trailer. And so we watched it in studio, and for the cast members that were there, we watched them watching it for the first time. They had not seen it before this live. Sierra literally was like tearing up after it aired, and like suddenly, I'm like, okay, now I, like West in Sierra, there's something in the air. There's something in the water. What's going on? He might be in love with her. He's like,

the shot in the trailer where they're sitting in chairs, and you can't see me right now, But, like, his leg is fully extended, like, touching Sierra's leg. Oh, my, like a shiver. A shiver went down head to toe in my body. But there's also some Kyle and Amanda stuff going on in the trailer. She alleges that he fell asleep at a fan's house until 6 a.m. And watching Kyle watch this, I'm like, can you imagine this being your life? And, like, everybody's watching it.

and we're watching you watch it, and then you have to talk about it. And Kyle has since given a statement, I think he made a statement to people or something, where he was like clarifying this thing that's in the trailer about him sleeping at a fan's house. And he's like, okay, so I didn't, I didn't sleep at the fans' house.

I, you know, I was at the apartment or whatever. And then I, you know, I nodded off on the couch. And it's like, babe, stop talking. You're sure as shit, not making. it better because everything he says it's like okay okay so I was there I was really drunk I passed out for a little bit and I don't sleep there and it's like you're a 43 year old man 43 that's not it's not cute and there's this um there's this photo going around that's like a snapchat photo of Kyle in somebody's apartment standing at like a plastic beer pong table

where there's a box of franzia under like on the floor under the table and it's like a side profile of Kyle and there's a timestamp on the photo that says 535 a.m. And the caption on the photo, like the Snapchat caption is like, help, he's still here. Literally like, you would need to, you would need to like cart me away if this happened to me. If I was, if I was as famous, you know, air quotes, whatever, as Kyle and this, somebody sent this photo of me on Snapchat? That's a wrap. It's over. Back it up. I don't know. I mean, Kyle and Amanda have still been going through their own rumor mill about their separation. There was another round of those rumors over the weekend. And then they did respond in a hilarious way where they put like,

I don't know, like a cardboard dollhouse or something in their living room. And Amanda was like inside of it. And she was like, welcome to my new house. That was pretty funny. But no, man, reality hot seat. It was fun. I was very glad. glad to be there. One thing that I wasn't really thinking about, truly, is that football games are long. And so we were there. We got in the car at 5 p.m. The game ended a little bit after 1130. So by the time I got in my car back to the city, it was nearly midnight. And this was Sunday night. I had a meeting at 10 a.m. on Monday. I was like, okay, so that was fun once. Maybe never again.

The people of Stanford, Connecticut, thank you so much for your hospitality. No, those NBC sports facilities are crazy. Just like the biggest building you've ever seen, so many conference rooms, so many little studios. I didn't know they were doing it like that over in Connecticut. I may never go back, but it was fun while it lasted. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom Rack stores now. and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love

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season of Vanderpump Rules. If you have been, you know, watching Vanderpump Rules with curiosity or with judgment or whatever, I recommend listening or watching my conversation with Natalie and Marcus. There is certainly an interesting energy with that cast. I'm not really going to recap this week's episode because there's just too much going on. But I just will say, imagine you're an adult in a relationship and you're having a fight and you're going through it and your relationship might be crumbling before your eyes and you're also at somebody's 22nd birthday party where she's getting a lap dance. Imagine turning 22. Imagine yesterday being 21 and now you're 22. I'm truly like could never be me.

Well, I mean, I guess like eight years ago could have be me. But now, 22 is like a number that I can't. You know, sometimes like I have my dating app, like age settings to like normal. But sometimes it'll just like randomly show you somebody who's way too young. I'm like, oh, 22. That's not, I, get away from me with this Apollo. No, Vanderpumpurals. We'll get back to it.

Maybe, I don't know, after the holidays. next week. Who knows? But we should talk about Beverly Hills and Salt Lake City and Southern Charm. A lot going on. Oh, by the way, next week on the show, we have one of our Married to Med. Oh, geez. I had so much fun recording. So make sure you're subscribed for that coming out next week. And then the following week, we are, we're batching up for the holidays. We've got a Southern Charm guest coming on in, you know, Christmas Eve. I think that episode is going to drop. So, you know, cancel your holiday plans. We've got to mention it all episode. Uh, maybe the 23rd, I think, I don't know, the week of Christmas, uh, we'll have a Southern Charm interview coming your way. And then, uh, we will be back with more guests in the new year. Let's actually start with Southern Charm because I don't think I've talked about it in a couple weeks. And man, Austin and Craig need couples therapy bad. Watching, watching, watching the, the chaos at Sweet Wittner's birthday dinner unfold, these men are,

really pushing it. Like really. Also, when I say Sweet Wittner, right now, he's the angel of my heart. He's, first of all, he's fucking sexy. That is, that is a fine ass man. He's like 37. He's a lawyer. He works out in the morning.

What's that like? He, you know, just seems like well-adjusted, like a real man with a career. and as I'm saying all of this, I know that in six weeks' time, I could think he's the worst man alive. Because that's the power of Southern charm. So right now, timestamp it, December 12th, Wittner, love you. Hopefully we can keep that energy throughout the season. But for now, that's my baby boy. Meanwhile, Craig and Austin and Shep, they just can't get it together.

Now, in this case, it's mostly Craig. Because Austin and Shep, obviously all of these men have their issues that they need to work through. Austin, as we are filming this season, is in this relationship with Audrey that I will just say. It really seems like he goes back and forth hour to hour of whether he wants to be in this relationship or in a relationship at all. And now we know him and Audrey are no longer together as of like this fall. So I think that makes it a little bit, at least right now. Maybe there's something later in the season that I'll, you know, yell at him for. But right now, because knowing that he and Audrey are not still together,

I feel like it's a little easier to not get so hung up on him making certain comments about, you know, being jealous of Craig being single or, you know, questioning his relationship, that kind of stuff. Because it's like, okay, it seems like he figured it out that he didn't want to be in that relationship and he is no longer. But Craig, my God, Craig, I think we need like a wellness check on Craig because, you know, he's, since he and Page are no longer in a relationship, in the words of Drake, he has started wearing less and going out more. And he is, he's back to Craig 1.0, I think Madison says, in the, like, episode intro narration. And I will just say,

watching Craig 1.0 in 2025, it's not cute. It's not cute. Now, like, I, um, I don't care who he's in the hot tub with. I would like to not hear about the hot tub anymore, actually. Sally, if you're listening to this, um, it's enough with the hot tub. I'm just, I'm just having fun in the hot tub. We don't care. Like, maybe Austin cares, but Craig going after Austin in his whatever get-up, I can't remember what character he's dressed as at this literary figure's party. He looks like he's from Mad Max. He's just, like, screaming at Austin, and he looks psycho.

And this is something where I do, I do feel like, like I said, in a broader sense, they both have shit they need to work through. But the way Craig is going about this is making him look unhinged. And, you know, even when when Shep is saying, oh, I was talking to these two girls in New York and they said something about their friend talking to Austin and it was this rumor and, you know, I brought it up to Craig to see what I should do and he said not to talk about it. And then Craig throwing it in Austin's face. in the heat of the moment in front of the whole group,

it doesn't make anyone look bad except Greg, because he looks like he is just so angry over Austin's, like, kind of shady comment about being in the hot tub. Like, the punishment does not match the crime. And then they kind of cool down, separate, and then, you know, Austin goes inside to talk to Craig, and then again they blow up at the table. And it's just, first of all, it feels like we're at this party for seven hours.

I can't imagine what being there was actually like. But then we have this weird, like, after the first round, Sally is talking to Craig and saying that he should apologize. But then kind of after the second round, Sally is talking to Craig and kind of comforting him in a weird way. Like she, I mean, obviously she like, you know, has a motive there. But when he's like, I'm not going to be gaslit into thinking I did. anything wrong. It's like, my guy, take 10 steps back. First of all, none of this is that serious. But second of all, like, you absolutely are in this situation, the aggressor and the one who is taking things to this level. And, you know, I'm, I guess I'm interested over the course

of the season to see kind of like how, how the dynamic between these three guys, develops because then when when Shep is telling Austin kind of this thing about New York and why Craig knew about it and not him, Austin's really mad at Shep for the way that he's like, oh, you're spreading blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, well, the whole point was that he didn't want to spread it, but then telling Craig and Craig's like a bitch and a gossiper, maybe that wasn't the smartest route, but I don't know. The three of these men, I mean, later in the episode, we have Craig talking to Charlie and we have Shep talking to Molly. And then, And so it's like, you know, after you have your big fight, everybody has to cool down.

And, you know, Austin's talking to Madison. Everybody has to, like, cool down with their, their, like, woman of the hour and be told, like, how crazy they are and how much they need to apologize. I will say, watching Craig with Charlie and him telling Charlie with a straight face as she's, like, bringing a painting to his house, like, that whole side thing. I'm just like, what's going on? He's like, well, I apologize to Austin. and he blah blah blah blah and it's like did you when was that where was did we see that was that was that off camera because it sure's hell wasn't at witness birthday party i don't know when it would have been other than that i just like i know that this at this point is like if you're

watching southern charm it's the thesis of the show is these three men are you know the housewives essentially. But at a certain point, it's like, how much more can we do? I don't know. There is, I do think there's a little bit more of an interesting dynamic happening with the women in the cast this season than maybe there has been since a couple seasons ago when it was like Olivia and Taylor and all of that. Because I do like to see Molly getting a little bit more in the mix. And Molly, Molly making the comments about Sally kind of trying to call dibs on the guys and Sally pushing back on that, you know, the footage of her telling Charlie that she needs to talk to her if she's going to hang out with Craig, like, it speaks for itself. Like, Sally can say whatever she wants. Like, that's, that's the point of making that comment is that you don't want her to talk to Craig. But I like them kind of getting in the mix with it. I think, you know, Vanita is, Vanita's stuff between Sally and Craig is interesting. I wish that somebody in this cast gave more of a fuck about Vanita's feelings. but, you know, it doesn't seem like that's in the cards in particular.

But no, I think Southern Charm, it's frustrating to watch because it feels like we're on the hamster wheel sometimes with these people. But at the same time, I'm like, I have found the last couple episodes pretty compelling. So they have done it once again. They have reeled me back in. I just hope Wittner, I hope he doesn't, like, do something bad. I don't know. The bar is on the floor for these guys, though. I would rather have Wittner, like Wittner compared to J.T.

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Let's talk about Beverly Hills. Our second episode of the season, I talked about last week the premiere feeling like it was sort of like divorce update sharing circle. And we haven't really moved away from that in episode two, but I guess I'm kind of trying to embrace it because these women do have a lot going on in their personal lives this season. And I don't, you know,

I would rather there be authentic story that's happening that is personal than fake story that's happening that is group drama, I guess. So I do feel like we cover some new ground in this episode, particularly when it comes to Kyle. Because, you know, we've now seen basically two full years of Kyle in this separation limbo, you know, not knowing how she feels about Mauricio, not knowing how she feels about Morgan Wade, not knowing how she feels about, you know, living alone or bringing towels or, you know, whatever the day's struggle is. And this week we got two scenes that I feel like are moving the plot forward in the Kyle situation, which I think is important. First of all, she goes to Maricio's new place.

She brings more towels because the girl can't help herself. It's tough. But they're talking a little more candidly about, you know, Maricio being a hoe. Portia's words, not mine. and, you know, kind of where they're at. And Kyle is saying in the confessional that when Maricio first moved out, he was doing a six-month lease on the high-rise. And then without telling her, he got this new place.

And so now it feels like they're moving further away from potentially coming back together or whatever. And I'm sorry, I don't mean to make light up somebody who's like, the end of a long marriage. Be fucking for real. Kyle and Maricio are not getting back together. Why are we entertaining the idea that they are still in some limbo phase of separation where it could go either way? Why are we doing that?

They have been separated for two, I think like two and a half years, almost. I guess probably like two years when they're filming. He has a house. He has been photographed with at least like three different women in the time that you have been apart. And as we learn at the end of the episode, which is the other scene I want to get to when she's talking to Erica, Kyle has had a full relationship in this time with Morgan Wood. And I don't think that Kyle thinks that they are getting back together. That's not what I'm saying. I don't think that she's like living in delusion.

I just think it's weird that every once in a while we're still getting a comment like this, that it's like, oh, I feel weird that he's moved into this house without telling me because what does that mean for us? And it's like, it means that you guys still don't live together and you probably never will again. And that's, that seems like it should be okay by now. I don't know. I think that it's, it's understandable that Kyle has feelings about these developments. But I just think it's like, it's probably time that we stop that we stop. mapping it on to like whether or not this means that they're more separated or less separated

than they were yesterday. It's like you guys aren't together. Yeah, ain't going to be. But that's seen at the end of the episode. So Kyle says to Erica that she's really just tired of everybody constantly asking her what's going on in her dating life. And I think that is valid because as a single person, I don't want to, you know, sometimes when you're like catching up with someone or at a party or you're, you know, going to Thanksgiving with your family. It's like, if the first question people are asking you is always like, are you seeing anyone? What's going on in your dating life? And go on any dates recently?

What's the latest? It's like, that is obnoxious. It's not fun for anybody. And obviously with Kyle, there is the major added layer that she's on this show about her life. And so people feel like they have, you know, an entitlement to know what's going on in her life. I mean, myself included, I've talked about the ship for a living. but I understand for her why it feels a little exhausting when, you know, Jennifer Tilly's going to ask and Bose is going to ask and Eric and Sutton's going to ask and, you know, everybody that she meets is going to ask her what's going on in the dating life. And I get her wanting to put a little bit of a pause on that because if you're not dating, it's not interesting.

But this is the first time that we have gotten the full admission from her that she has been in a relationship in the recent past, but now she no longer is. And we're not saying Morgan Wade's name because clearly Morgan Wade doesn't want her name to be said since last season. The season before, fair game, apparently. But this is the closest we have got to Kyle speaking openly about that situation. And I am so glad that she did. Because to me, this is enough. Because I understand, if Morgan is saying, I will not be on the show anymore, please don't say my name on camera, I don't want Kyle to betray that. I don't think that we need her to.

I think that what we weren't getting last season and until now having gotten is like the admission that there is like something going on. and even if she can't tell us about it, she can still include it in the story of what's happening in her life. And I think the issue before was that it felt like, it felt like she wasn't willing to acknowledge that there was something that she couldn't talk about. It just was like, why are you asking me? Don't ask me that.

I won't say anything. I can't say anything. I'm not going to say anything. And, you know, like I think Kyle sort of realizes, or maybe it's starting to realize, she has created a situation in her life over the last 15 years where she doesn't, she can't expect that level of not asking what's going on. So I think now that she has, now that she has opened up about the broader journey that she's been on,

to me, I'm like, okay, now I don't need to ask what's going on in your personal life, because I feel like I kind of know. And right now you're single and you're not having sex as Bose asked. You're not seeing anyone. That's fine. There doesn't need to be an update every week. It's just like you can't act like there wasn't ever an update that you, weren't giving us. So I'm good to move on there. It seems like Kyle and Morgan have gone there

separate ways. I hope that everybody's, you know, feeling good about that. I don't know. We do get to meet our new housewife Amanda this week. And I would say like 50-50 on Amanda for me right now. I mean, it's too soon to tell. I don't want to, I'm not going to grade her on like showing up to Jennifer Tilly's party and being how her penis drawing went. Like, I don't, I don't think That's like a fair, a fair assessment. But it is, it's always interesting to see kind of like how we get introduced. She's being brought on as Sutton's friend, which seems vague at best. Like, I don't think we're really friends with anybody here.

She's living in, she bought Kyle's old house in Bel Air, the one that Sutton also lived in. God, the things that house has seen. I just, I don't even want to think about it. She immediately tells a story. She's engaged to a guy named Eddie, I think. But she says that he saw her on the street and chased her down to meet her the same night that he said that he was ready to meet his partner. Sure. Congratulations. She's like, so I wrote a book called Rich as Fuck.

And it's about manifesting. And, you know, women changing their lives. And so now my nickname is the Money Queen. It is funny. Like I read her cast bio when they announced the season. And so I know about Rich as Fuck. Girl, I've been in the trenches with that bio. But it's funny to me that she's like, so I wrote this book called Riches Fuck and So,

therefore my nickname is the Money Queen. It's like, okay, from who? Where? Money Queen! She's running down the street. People are like, Money Queen, stop. I don't know. Amanda, I think I'm going to have fun with her.

Whether or not I like her on the show, she seems like somebody who will be easy to talk about. Let's just say that. She does go to Jennifer Tilly's party. And one thing that I do want to defend Amanda, which again, I may regret later, whatever. We're in a spirit of openness today. So they're asking her about her life. She's meeting these women for the first time. Bose is, so she lives with her fiance, and she says with four kids.

And she says that the older two are her stepkids. And Bose is like, okay, so they're his kids. and she says, yes, but I'm, I raised them or I'm raising them. And Bose is like, in the confessional, she's like, well, hold up. Because for me, that wouldn't fly because, like, if I'm the mother, I don't want another woman claiming that she's the mother. So, like, that's weird. And okay, I think that's a, first of all, she said the word stepkids.

She's not lying about these children not being biologically her kids. But also I just think it's strange to immediately jump to a negative judgment about somebody else's like blended family, you know, structure. Because it's like, I just met this woman. I have no idea what a custody situation is. If the, if they're, if those kids' mother is in the picture, how much they see. Like, I just, I think that's a weird thing to like jump down her throat about when it's like, she didn't, she said I raised them. That is likely true. I don't know it to not be true.

I don't know. I just, to me, that kind of put a bad taste in my mouth. And I was like, let the woman live. Find a real reason to dislike her. Give her a chance to find a real reason to dislike her. That's my housewife's motto. But the other thing that happens at Tilly's party, other than, you know, the naked drawing, which fun activity. I feel like that's a little more novel than like a murder mystery party or like axe throwing.

I don't think we've drawn naked men much in the past. Miami, I think they did that. Somebody will tell me in the comments. Yell at me, I guess. But the other thing that happens is that Doret is talking a little bit more about the situation with P.K. And her kids and how that's, you know,

not going great. And Kyle just can't help herself, but kind of ride the fence and even take PK's side a little bit. She's like, well, you know, it could be okay. And Doree's like, no, Kyle, it's not going to fucking be okay. because their father is not there for them. So,

and Kyle's like, well, I don't know, I don't know. I just think this is, it's frustrating to me to see we're in a new season. Obviously,

Doreet's situation has progressed since last year. P.K. is barely seeing the kids. She's like, he's in Europe for weeks at a time, and then he's here for one night and then blah, blah, blah, blah. They're going to go to Florida.

Why has Kyle not learned her lesson from last year, even one little bit? to just shut your damn mouth and not immediately pipe up for Pekai in a situation that, let's face it, you do not know the details of. Because if Kyle is telling the truth that she and Pekai are no longer in communication, and I hope she's telling the truth about that because it would be a stupid thing to lie about, why are you acting like you know more than Dorit does about the situation with her own kids?

And I have to say, I mean, I don't always, I don't always like ride for Doreet, but her talking about how her 11-year-old son Jagger has been walking around like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders and is like crying out wanting to spend time with Doreet's father, his grandfather, likely because his dad isn't there. It's like, that is like heartbreaking to me. And it's, it's frustrating again to see that it seems like we're in for another season of Kyle not really just shutting. her mouth and being there for Doreet the way that Dorete probably needs right now. I don't know. I don't know where this is going to shake out. I just feel bad because it seems like Peky really is just like a piece of shit when it comes to this situation. And I would like more for her.

I suppose we should talk about Salt Lake. They're in Greece. They've made it to the Motherland. They've made it. It's so nice to watch. We will talk more about Salt Lake next week because I don't want to, you know, I don't want to cut it short. But this week's episode, first of all, a couple things I want to call out. First of all, they're in Greece.

Did you know? Love to see them in Greece. I was thrilled to watch them landing in Santorini, getting on the van at the airport, and going straight to dinner. They didn't stop at the hotel. They didn't drop their bags. They didn't do any glam touch-ups. Nobody got to shower. Nobody got to change.

they were in their airplane outfits at an outdoor dinner in Santorini, arguing across the table in Angie and Lisa's case about who had a Cartier watch first and who's driven more Porsches and who, you know, is having nicer things and who did what first. And this was delicious. I would love to be a fly on the wall for whoever was in charge of that itinerary and who had to be the one to tell the ladies, hey, so when we land in Santorini, it's already going to be like 6 p.m. So we really have to just go to dinner and, you know, we'll have the rest of the nights here. We can do full glam. You know, we can do it up big. But for the first night, like, timing-wise, we just have to do dinner. and then you'll go to the hotel after.

It'll be an early night. Like, we can, you know, we can call it after dinner. Because you know damn well that at least two or three of these ladies, we're like, wait, but we're, wait, I, I can't get glam. Can I, if I get glam on the plane, then I could, can I bring glam to the airport, glam on the car? I have a look. Can I change my, and it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no ladies. If that seemed like a Lisa Barlow voice for a reason.

They're like, no, no, no. Sweatpants, no makeup, hair, whatever it looks like. We're going to dinner. And they did it. Amazing. Every trip should have this. Just to have, even if this is the only time all season, when we see these women together outside of the house where they're not in full glam, crazy looks, you know, wonky spray tan in Lisa's case.

It was beautiful. And also I loved that that dinner, what they were fighting about was Cartier and Porsches, because it was just yummy. It just worked. It was beautiful. And then the next day, we're back to fighting about what happened on the plane three weeks ago. You know, you can't have it all. This plane thing, it's tough because, like, I, of course, would love to know the 100% absolute truth of what happened on the plane. but it has been clear for a couple weeks now, that doesn't exist.

If there was footage, we would have seen it. If Meredith was going to do a 180 and say, you're absolutely right, I did, you know, pull Britney's hair for five hours straight, it would have happened by now. And so it's frustrating to watch Heather and Whitney sort of miss the moment to just move on. because it does seem like, you know, Meredith had a conversation with Brittany on last week's episode. And that was, you know, she wasn't making all the concessions or the, you know, the full-throated apology that maybe you would hope for. But she, she did something. And then, you know, Heather's been, you know, trying and trying and trying to have a moment with Meredith.

And Meredith has offered now to her multiple times, I'm happy to sit down and have a chat with you. Heather doesn't want it. Heather wants that moment at the table, and Meredith isn't giving it to her. And it's frustrating because I understand why Heather wants it, but the fact that she can't read the situation and see, okay, Meredith is actually decided that this isn't going to happen unless it's in private. Why don't we just have the conversation in private and then we can move forward? Meanwhile, Whitney's over here banging the drum over and over and over again. Pill Popper. Addiction. Jinking problem.

Drug abuse. Reminds me of my father. I get it. But also, enough. To me, like with Whitney, it's like she had that big moment at Bronwyn's Boston Tea Party bullshit, whatever. That was the moment. Now we need to move on. And I think that the thing with this cast is that normally they are really, really some of the best

at having a huge fight, maybe it goes on for an episode or two, and then we move on to the next thing. And this plain thing, knowing that there are seemingly no ultimate answers or receipts, we have to move on to the next thing. And in the grand scheme of things, I mean, still, it's only been, what, four episodes that we've been talking about this. Think about Panagate, think about Lucy Lucy, Lucy, Apple Juice. This could be a whole season on some franchises. And I feel confident that Salt Lake City will get it together and move on. But like, we need to do that next episode, please. Santa Rini looks lovely.

Lisa Barlow being like two hours late for the group dinner, not shocking. I will say that the split screen of the whole group hanging out together and really just like enjoying the moment and the beautiful sunset and the vantage point of Santorini and the Aegean Sea. and then we see Lisa taking selfies of herself. They're making it look tough for her. The editors and the producers of this show know exactly what they are doing. And it's kind of hilarious to watch. And Lisa, oh my God, Lisa, sitting with her makeup artist and being like, yeah, I get my makeup done every day at home.

Yeah, like, yeah, like, I have a girl that comes and does it. Shut up. It's not cute. This lady that you that you ferried over from Athens to Santorini doesn't care about what last year girl at home in Utah is using on a daily. You're, it's not, nobody cares. At this point, like, nobody cares. And I, that first dinner especially just made it even more stark for me that it's like,

I don't care about that. And I don't think any of the other women really do. they are all, I love to see actually, how much this group, Lisa aside, seems excited and happy to be in this place on this trip that means so much to Angie and really just soaking it in. And I loved also, you know, Angie talking about Heather being like the person that you want to come on a trip with you because she is going to just like be there to soak it up. And that, I feel like we don't get enough of that on housewives trips because obviously they're focused on fighting. And a lot of the time like the, when they do activities, it's like, okay, we could go shopping or we could go to a restaurant or we could go. You know, like they're not really like immersing themselves in the culture a lot of the time, which like, I mean, not that they've done anything like crazy cultural in Santorini on the first day.

but like just enjoying being in the place you're in is so lovely. And to me, that's like the best part of traveling. And obviously I know that this isn't like the travel channel. But I just, I love that energy. And it's sad to me that Lisa Barlow can't seem to get on the same way blank. And that is all I will say about that. And that is all I will say today. Thank you so much for listening.

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