Mention It All - Atlanta Returns & Tamra… Departs? (RHOA, RHOC & Traitors Finale)

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

 A new week brings a deluge of Bravo news, and Dylan wastes no time getting into the nitty gritty. From Scheana’s Mother Monster moment to James Kennedy’s bleak social media behavior, the VPR crew is all over the map. Meanwhile, Tamra is seemingly bailing on RHOC after a cryptic Instagram post in the middle of a cast trip. After a few thoughts on the Traitors finale, Dylan focuses his attention on the premiere of a partially-rebooted RHOA. With Shamea finally claiming her peach, a trio of newbies chomping at the bit, and some conspicuous Kenya editing, we’ve got ourselves a season.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. It is a brand new week, and it's a brand new day on the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Season, whatever it is, has premiered, and we have a fiery premiere episode to talk about. But before we get to that, we have lots of other stuff going on. going to touch on the Traders finale and reunion just a little bit. And then we have some various news and controversies happening because, you know, would it be a Monday in the Bravo world if there was not some fallout happening on social media? To be honest, I don't know these days.

There's a lot going on and it's a lot to keep track of. But we're going to do our best. First of all, congratulations to one Sheena Shea for meeting Mother Monster herself. There was some lovely photos we saw of Sheena being warmly embraced by Lady Gaga in the wake of Gaga's SNL double duty performance this weekend. If you recall just a couple weeks ago, Lady Gaga did the Vanity Fair lie detector test video. And she said that Sheena was the person she's going to miss the most on Vanderpump Rules. And what did our favorite folks at the NBC Universal Corporation get to work on flying Sheena out to New York for 24 hours,

just so she could have this photo up with Lady Gaga? I don't know behind the scenes if this is actually how this came to be. But Sheena did put in her caption that she was in New York for 24 hours. So it does seem likely that this was, you know, partially orchestrated. But look, Lady Gaga looked happy to see her. Lady Gaga has been on just like a crazy press run these last couple weeks for the Mayhem album. Mayhem album? Jury's still out for me.

I'm working on it. I'm getting into it. But Gaga, Sheena, a match made in heaven. And, you know, I love to see it. I love to see women supporting women. Women's stories matter. It's women's history month. And, you know, Sheena's history has been splashed across the screen for the last decade.

And Lady Gaga's, you know, a fan just like the rest of us. Speaking of women's stories, we might have seen the last of Tamara's story on Real Housewives of Orange County because the situation doesn't seem great. So if you haven't been on Instagram today, the Real Housewives of Orange County has begun filming for season 19. It's underway, and the ladies were in New Orleans this weekend for a cast trip. New Orleans, a fun destination. We've only seen Potomac and Atlanta, I believe, go to New Orleans in the past,

and Vanderpump Rules famously, where Tom was a battered wife. But we have not seen Real House Boys of Orange County go to New Orleans. I think that sounds really fun. Interesting to be going to New Orleans the weekend after Mardi Gras. Like, I do kind of wonder, if you're not aware, I went to college in New Orleans. And so I was there for four Mardi Gras in a row back in the mid-20s. And like, I would say the weekend after Mardi Gras is not the most pop-in time to be in town. it's giving hungover, it's giving, I have a cold, it's giving, there was a mysterious bug that went around and I'm not going to be leaving my house for 72 hours.

But I believe that the women of OC probably had a lot of fun and I can't wait to see it next season. But it seems like Tamara maybe was having less fun. Because on her Instagram story last night, Sunday night at let's say around 9 p.m. central time. with the time change and with the time zones. When I took the screenshot this morning, it said 10 hours ago. So I tried to do the math the best I can. She posted from Create Mode with the little pink background and the white text. You always have to analyze the formatting of these things.

So this was on the fly. This was not the assistant popped into Canva and found a little template. This was posted straight off the dome from Tamara. It looks like she said, it was a long run. When life gives you real problems, this reality shit doesn't make sense. Peace out. Peace sign emoji. I'm out.

Tammy Sue, what are we doing? What's going on? Now, she alludes to life giving her real problems. I will just say, we don't have the details on what that means. I've seen people in comment sections on Twitter threads and whatnot jumping to conclusions. and they're saying, well, actually she's talking about what's going on with her podcast and Teddy's health issues. So this is probably a wise decision. Did she tell you that she's talking about Teddy's health issues? Because I don't see that anywhere in this Create mode Instagram story.

I think it's possible. I think that, you know, Teddy's health issues, I'm sure have been, you know, a challenging time for Tamara. It affects her both, you know, maybe business wise and They're friends, I think. But, like, Tamara can do whatever she wants. And do I really believe that Tamara would be bailing on a season of Real House stories of Orange County because Teddy is, you know, having surgery on her brain? Maybe. I don't know. Nobody knows.

Stop acting like you know things. That's like a general note. We don't know things. Nobody knows things. But anyway, we're. What does this mean for season 19 of Orange County? It's an interesting time because after season 18, I think the public opinion on Tamara is probably the lowest it's been in a while.

People were really not liking her energy last season. People really didn't like the way she handled a lot of situations, particularly her friendships with Jen and with Shannon. So if we're like a handful of episodes into this season, and Tamara decides that she wants to, you know, be out, to me, this is not like a crisis of Orange County. Compared to, you know, we'll talk about what's going on in Atlanta with the Kenya situation. I almost could have, feel like I could have predicted this, that something would happen and Tamara would walk away. Now, do I think that this is the last we're ever going to see of her on the show?

Probably not. Even if she decides to step away from filming this season, Tamara is a reality TV cockroach, and I believe that we will, you know, we will see her scuttling along once again, whether it's at a reunion, a future season, a watch what happens. You know, I don't think that she's going to, you know, drop off the face of the earth. Look, J.T. resigned from Southern Charm, and he still showed up to the reunion. But I, it is an interesting, you know, thing for her to post, a choice for her to make, a statement for her to make. And anytime something like this happens during filming, it's like, what's actually going on? Because you know that there's a producer texting her, an exec getting on the phone. You know, they're not just

going to let her, you know, run off into the night and not try to sort of follow the thread there, especially if she, you know, I assume she was supposed to be a full-time housewife this season. You got to kind of keep the pieces on the board. And I don't know what's going on with her, but I, I hope that she can balance whatever is happening in her life with the storytelling mechanisms of the show and that we won't be sort of left out to dry in this whole situation. But it's early days. They just started filming a month or so ago. So we're not going to know exactly how this is shaking out for a good, long time. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom Rack stores now and up to 60% off.

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You guys, I think we have to talk about James Kennedy. I don't want to do it, but I feel like if I don't, I don't want to post about this on social media because it feels like slightly too dark, but I do feel like I need to address it here. Just, we're going to talk about this for like two minutes and then keep it pushing. I promise, I think. So over the weekend, if you have relieved yourself from following James Kennedy, congratulations. But he did post on his Instagram story, a photo with two of the most cursed people

in our society, brothers, Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate. If you don't know who Andrew Tate is, you are so lucky. He is a right-wing personality. If you're familiar with the men's rights movement or maybe the term the Manosphere, the king of men's rights, like, I think he proudly proclaims to be a misogynist, I think, allegedly. not a good guy for many reasons, but also legally an extremely fraught figure. Over the last few years, he has been detained in Romania, where he was charged with, you know, rape and human trafficking. And I think they were looking into a tax evasion situation as well.

his brother wrapped up in a lot of these legal scenarios as well. And then just last month, after being, you know, in Romania against his will for a few years, our president, Donald J. Trump, applied some pressure to the Romanian government and got good old Andrew flown out to Florida. And what happened when he got flown out to Florida? They immediately started more investigations into him. So let's just say, Andrew Tate is not somebody that I personally would be excited to take a photo with. But James Kennedy, different story.

He posted a photo with these two guys at an event. You know, it looks like they're at some, you know, club night or something truly chills down my spine, whatever this event is, would truly hate to be there. But James posted this picture. Lots of questions, lots of backlash, lots of angry comments. sure his DMs are more of a dumpster fire than usual. So then James posts on his Instagram story, I regret posting a photo with the Tate brothers at an event last night. I was unfamiliar with their content and the allegations against them. I only knew them as podcasters that had posted a viral clip about Vanderpump. I have since educated myself and condemn their beliefs. I am sorry to all

that I offended. Isn't that nice? First of all, I'm like, what did Andrew Tate post? about Vanderpump rules. Was he like Tom Sandoval's the best? Was he like, yeah, actually, fuck all these girls? I can't imagine that his take about Vanderpump rules was anything great.

But then this got messier because somebody posted this apology statement, whatever, on Twitter, and then Tristan Tate replied to it. Just, God, dumpster fire. He said, begged and kissed my ass for 30 minutes straight and called me a hero. He knew exactly who I was and what

content I made. He's just a pussy who can't handle DMs from woke. A word that I'm not going to say that starts with an R. Fuck this guy. Now look, am I automatically believing what Tristan Tate is telling me? No, because I have a brain and wasn't born yesterday. But also am I automatically believing what James Kennedy is telling me. Also, no. Is the truth maybe somewhere in the middle? Do I know that James Kennedy is an avid listener of whatever content? The Tate brothers are pumping out into the world? I don't know. I don't fucking care. But it is hard for me to believe that you would be in any context aware enough to be like, oh, there's those guys. Let me take a photo. And not know that they're generally like some of this gummiest people the internet has produced. Like truly,

Not even. There are people out there who I'm like, oh, I don't agree with their takes. I think they're a little bit problematic. This man was in a Romanian prison for human trafficking and only got out because Donald Trump was like, let me make a few calls. And then now he's going to be back in an American prison, maybe someday. I don't know. He probably should be, James, please. We are now in our like second James Kennedy controversy of 2025 that is getting.

giving a, it's giving a little bit, you know, left, right leaning. It's giving a little bit like, you know, in-cell territory. James, we're going down a dangerous road here. And I really would love for James to maybe just like, take some time away from the internet, maybe don't go to events where the Tate brothers are going to be, just generally not a great, you know, you are the company you keep. Somebody's mother said that to them once. Just like, let's dial it down just a little bit. It's not looking good. Good sleep is everything.

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I was talking to a couple of my coworkers this morning. We were talking about the end of the day. Traders season. And it came up that, you know who actually kind of had a good season of the traders? I hate to say it. It's Tom Sandoval. Because Tom Sandoval, for all of the, you know, shitty things that he's done and really questionable things that he's said and decisions that he's made, he came on this season. And I really think he benefited from being on a show that didn't require him to address things. Because anytime he's had the chance or taken the opportunity to address things, it kind of goes bad. If he's talking about Ariana, if he's talking about Raquel, if he's talking about, you know, Jacks and Kristen and James and he doesn't acquit himself well when he takes the stand. But the nice thing about traitors is that you're only required to take the stand about shit that doesn't matter.

about the way somebody reacted at breakfast, about the scenes somebody made or didn't make at the roundtable. And watching him be just like a little bit pathetic throughout this season, it's the most likable he's been in years. And I think that because he sort of stuck around long enough this season and sort of took the blows, the only time his, you know, past situation was referenced was because Chrisel was like, I know your ex, and I don't trust you. And he was like, yeah, fair enough. He just like, it was a good, I think, look for him to be in a situation where he could just kind of exist and not have to like justify so much.

And I think that, you know, knowing that Vanderpumper was is not coming back with him on it, I don't know what the future looks like for him. But I do feel like this kind of lane. I don't know if there are more competition shows that he. could do, or if there's like more of a, I don't know. Look, is Tom Sandoval somebody that I'm like looking to be on every show? Still no. Still a pass. But like, I would not be mad about him being on my screen in some way, shape, or form. And I think that's a change. From last season of Vandapum, certainly. The end of this season of Traders was, it was interesting. It was definitely a vibe than we've had the first couple of seasons because there really wasn't a gamer energy at the end.

The final episode, spoilers, obviously, the final episode starts with the completion of the cliffhanger from the second to last, where Britney does make the bold move to vote out Danielle. She does it again. She did it on reindeer games and she did it here. First of all, the fact that we have to like, earnestly reference reindeer games. I think I talked about this last week, but I was like, I don't want to know about this. I don't want to think about this. I don't want to say, I'm an adult saying the word reindeer games earnestly. I don't love it. But it's funny because in the world of Brittany and Danielle, in this very specific bubble that they have created and existed within, this is like a devastating development. Danielle, is like heartbroken and gut wrenched and Brittany is not far behind her. She's like, I had to do it. I just got it. But it's funny because in the actual game, it's like, for what?

Brittany agonized over, you know, she just like, it was the hardest thing she's ever had to do. And then she went home not 24 hours later. I am, I'm happy that Brittany did it because I was rooting for the faithfuls this season. And if Brittany had voted out Iver and she and Danielle had still been in the house for that, you know, last roundtable, I think Danielle probably still would have been voted out, banished at the final roundtable. But I think Brittany might have won. But voting Danielle out, and then everybody still assuming that there was one traitor in the house, Brittany seemed like the obvious choice. And then the four faithfuls just wrote it out till the end.

And when I say that there was no gamer energy at the end, it's because after they voted out Brittany, all four of them, Dolores, Dylan, Gabby, Iver, they felt fine with it. They all threw the green, you know, whatever chemical packet into the fire. We didn't have to go back and banish again. It wasn't like Surrey doing that heartbreaking, you know, heartbreaking for those randos, amazing for us. In season one where there were tears, it wasn't like C.T. and Trichelle screwing over MJ at the 11th hour just so they could get a little bit more money and win together last season. This was just kind of like a good vibes ending. and I think that there might be some critique of like it's traders choosing to end the game with four people and they each get, I mean, pre-tax, it's like $52,000 or something. Look, getting whatever chunk of money that is is nice. Let's not act like this is life-changing.

I appreciate because it felt true to the game that they had each played and true to the season that Dylan was the faithful of the faith. Gabby was the, you know, the good time girl with a big brain and a heart of gold. Dolores was never going to be a traitor. She was never going to tell a lie. She was not cutthroat and she's sticking to her guns. And Iver was, you know, there. But it wouldn't have felt right if all of a sudden Dolores switched up and was like, no, I'm going to vote somebody out so I can get a little more money.

Or if Gabby was like, actually, Dylan, I don't think they usually. should be here at the finale because you're probably a faithful, but you could be a traitor. That would feel fake. And I like that it ended kind of the way it began. Like it felt good. The reunion was like fine. I have mixed feelings on these traitors reunions because it fundamentally is a different proposition than housewives.

Like there are 20 plus people. Their contestants, you know, not everybody has an equal impact on. on the game. They bring them out sort of in like groups. They're like, let's start with the winners. And then let's bring out the traders. And then let's bring out a few more people. And then finally we'll bring out the people who kind of didn't contribute much. But hey, Robin, nice to see you again. Like, it's a little bit like, okay, this is cute. I'm glad that they do it. But at the end of the day, you could see that somebody like Derinda or somebody like Bob were like a little more rearing to go versus

versus like a lot of these people what are we really going to do at a reunion? Like it's it's not that deep at the end of the day. It's traders. But another fun season in the bag it's been renewed for I believe two more seasons already. So traders will be back.

I'm very curious to see what directions they go in with the casting. If there's anyone new they can sort of, like any sort of like new buckets they can create, I think would be exciting. Something I've thought about on Dancing with the Stars, sometimes there's sort of like the former convict category. And I don't think we've had anyone that really fills that bucket. I love the podcast Too Weekly and they always talk about the casting buckets for Dancing with the Stars and that the convicted felon is actually kind of like an important piece there. you know, you're Anna Delvey, you're Sean Spicer.

We don't always love it, but it's kind of necessary. So I'm wondering maybe if we can get on the traders next season like a Billy McFarland. You know, somebody said, somebody said Gypsy Rose and hey, Gypsy Rose, she's doing it. We'll see. You know, she's got her show right now. And, you know, maybe she's looking for a next opportunity. You never know. You never know.

We'll see. We'll see. Traders, thank you for your time. I guess probably January. They're staying pretty consistent. It's going to be a long break. Let's talk about Atlanta. This season, it's one of the most anticipated, I think, because there have been so many questions around it from what they were going to do in the first place.

with the cast to then the Kenya stuff that went down and how that was going to be handled. Obviously, they brought Fadra on. Fadra is not in the premiere episode. She's not going to be in this season until a good chunk of the way through. And then, you know, once we knew all the casting information, really it just is down to like, is it going to work? Is it going to be good? Is it going to be worth the time?

and the effort spent. And after this premiere episode, I have to say, I'm feeling pretty optimistic about it. And I know, I know there are going to be people who watch this episode, who give this season a chance and say, it's not the same. It's not the Atlanta that I know and love. And for that reason, I'm out. And I respect that. I think that the thing that we need to move past is like every Bravo fan needing to watch everything and love everything equally. And it should be okay for us to acknowledge that Real House Stories of Atlanta in the OG, in the golden years, was untouchable. Those classic seasons are in the pantheon.

They are the pantheon of reality TV, of housewives, of Bravo, of culture in so many ways. And I think it's okay for us to have adjusted expectations and also adjusted reactions that if we are holding something to the standard of, is this as good as when Nini and Marlowe were fighting, you know, no, probably not. and that's okay. It's okay to say that. But I also feel like watching a new season or a new cast member or a new kind of iteration and keeping an open mind and letting yourself enjoy it and letting yourself maybe free from the comparisons a little bit. Going into it with that mindset, I enjoyed this premiere quite a bit. We have a lot going on. I definitely think anybody who watches this premiere and says, this is boring, what are we here for, there's nothing happening. I think that's an unfair critique. Because in this premiere, first of all, we're meeting three new housewives, actually four new housewives when you consider Shamiya, who for all of her appearances on this franchise, has never been a full-time housewife, has only been a friend of, I think for one season several years ago, Shamia in this capacity is not something we have seen before.

And right off the bat, she tells us, I am the glue. And I think that it is really bold and I think exciting to see Shamia stepping into her full-time role so wholeheartedly. And not only, you know, I'm sure that production sort of talked to her about, okay, this is how we're sort of going to position you within the cast. But for her to really own that and claim that on this first episode, you might think Portia was going to be the glue this season. You might think Kenya was going to be the glue this season. Even Drew has been, you know, full time now for a few years. Shamiya's saying, no, bitch, it's me. I'm in my $9 million home that was the second most expensive,

you know, sold in Georgia in 2022. I've got an elevator to my closet. and I am the glue. And she, her husband, you know, her African king, as she jokes, he has made a fortune doing HVAC for airports. Yes, honey, that is not glamorous, but I will take it. I love, oh my God, I love hearing about the random things that make people rich. It's like, okay, HVAC for airports, good to know, taking a mental note. I don't know anything about H-FAC, but like, I can get into it.

It's a $9 million home. She gives the longest-winded confessional that we have seen in a while. She makes Doreet look concise. The fact that literally they show the producer being like, Shamiya, please make it short. And then she's just yapping and yapping and yapping about meeting her husband. I'm into it. I'm into it. Shamia, I think, is obviously going to be a really key piece of how this season works or doesn't work. And I'm excited to kind of follow the thread. Now, our other three new housewives are truly new housewives. And this is where I think this season kind of is going to sink or float. Because we have Kelly, Brittany, and Angela. And all of them are showing up. I love that we meet all of them in the premiere. I think that's important. And they're all giving different energy.

So Kelly is the Waffle Queen of Atlanta. Congrats to her. She has a cookbook. She has a restaurant. I want to go to Nana's. I want to have a waffle. She is a single mom of numerous daughters. She's going through a divorce.

Portia's going through a divorce. We have a lot of women going through divorces on this show. Drew's, you know, Ralph has been banished to the basement. They can only talk through an app that the judge can oversee. There's a lot of fraught relationship dynamics on this show. But back to Kelly, um,

her biggest impact on this premiere is that she is immediately bringing the heat with Portia. Because we see her at this little dinner with, um, with Brittany and with Shamia. And right away, they're talking about Portia's divorce from, Simon.

And she says, well, she shouldn't have stole that lady's husband. Why'd she steal the man? And right away, that's a shot fired. She's saying it to Shamiya. Shamiya obviously is going to report back to Portia, which she does at a strip club, by the way. I'm like, why are we at a strip club? Why are we having a quick little ketchup and there's dollars being thrown in the background? That is not what I was expecting to see.

God, Atlanta is so funny. But Kelly is really coming in hot with Portia specifically. And that's a strategy. That's a choice. We will see. But she's immediately feuding with Portia. Brittany, our second new housewife, is immediately feuding with Kenya. That one is more on Kenya's side.

She has questions for her about her marriage and switching in a ring for a bigger ring, which it's like, look, okay, to each their own. she is far from the first girl who has upgraded the ring and she is like she's showing the ring a little much it's the big ass solitaire diamond which to me you can come for me if you want because you'll be like you can't afford the diamond why you have how big is your ring I think that rings like that kind of look like they came out of a

vending machine like at the at the front of like the diner or whatever when you like put in the quarter and then you like it's in the little plastic cup. And it looks a little big. Like it just kind of like is like swinging around on her finger. I don't know. No shade. No shade. It's a beautiful ring.

A beautiful ring that I could never afford. But she tells us this was one of the lines that made me laugh the most. She goes, being an insurance agent, I'm at all the flyest, sexiest events in the city. and I don't know if being an insurance agent in Atlanta means something different than it does everywhere else, but like the flyest, sexiest events in the city, you could be an insurance agent who goes to the flyest sexiest events in the city. But I don't think that you're going to those events because you're an insurance agent. What does that mean? Vicki Gunvelson is an insurance agent.

And for 18 seasons, we have watched her go to like seminars and cruises that don't look like very much fun. And she could have been going to the flyest, sexiest events in the city this whole time. Brittany is kind of, I'm kind of into her. I don't know. There's something there. Obviously, we know that things are going to go really south between her and Kenya. And I want to talk about Kenya. Angela is our third, new housewife, by the way.

You know, we've got the Porsche feud. We've got the Kenya feud. Unfortunately, the only thing that. Angela's feuding with in this season premiere is her wig glue at Shimea's birthday party. God damn. Brutal. She looks great. You know, I'm expecting big things from her.

I like her energy a little bit tough in the premiere. But Kenya, that is the big question mark here. Because we know that she was originally supposed to be full time on this season. We know that things went south due to her choices and actions. and then she had to leave the show. And so we are left with this kind of strange in-between dynamic in this first episode, and I'm assuming the first handful of episodes in the season, where Kenya is a regular participant in group scenes, in one-on-one scenes.

We see her going over to Drew's House in the premiere and sort of getting the tea on what's going on with Ralph. but we do not see solo scenes of her. We don't get any time at home with Kenya in the premiere. We don't get any, you know, real storyline from Kenya, aside from her choosing for seemingly no reason to have an issue with Brittany. And crucially, we do not have any confessionals from Kenya. Now, the way that they usually are scheduling out and filming these, you're going to start filming the season. and then sort of midway through filming, you're going to start coming in for the confessionals. Once they start kind of getting the edit together and, you know, figuring out what questions they need to ask,

and you'll continue doing the confessional interviews, you know, for the latter half of filming. And then after filming has finished, you'll go and kind of do your interviews for the later part of the season. So with Kenya departing and really being fired from the show midway into filming, I don't know if she filmed a single interview. We don't see any of them in the premiere. And it does just feel like we have this missing element of when she's in a one-on-one scene with Drew, we're not getting any of Kenya's commentary that we were normally getting. When she's starting to feud with Brittany, we're not getting any of her sort of, you know, commentary track on what's happening with Brittany. be why she has an issue. Maybe there's context that we don't know about that Kenya would have shared that we're not going to get. And so I'm glad that they didn't try to like edit Kenya out

of this season because I think that would have felt even more unnatural and like Frankensteiny. And look, this season doesn't need more of that. Ideally, it would have less of it. But it is, it's strange to watch. I don't, off the top of my head, I can't think of another time that we've had this where it is like this. obvious missing chunk, and when it's not there, you realize how important it is. Now, the two people I haven't really talked about are our actual returning housewives, Drew and Portia, and both of them are in interesting positions in this premiere. So Portia and Pilar are still living in the house that they lived in with Simon, but Simon has filed a cease and desist to stop her from filming in the home because they own it

50-50, I guess. And so Portia's, you know, we see her at her divorce attorney's office. I do love the flashback to like 10 years ago that she's at the same attorney. And they're like, well, it's nice to see you again. Sorry, sorry you're here again. But nice to see you. But yikes. Wow. We really have been on the roller coaster with Porsche over the last 10 plus years. That's crazy. So she currently can't film in her house, and she is, you know, a little bit in flux as this season is starting. Meanwhile, over at Casa Day Drew, Ralph's living in the basement. Like I said, they're only communicating through an app, and Drew says she has to leave the house every other weekend. So I guess Ralph can come upstairs for air.

Their dynamic seems, you know, as bad as it ever was. And Drew has chosen to comfort herself by hanging out with who? That's right. Portia's ex-Dennis, father of her child, the hot dog man who had some weird drama of his own. So Drew is working with Dennis on music, but maybe also working on him with other things. And this becomes the whole thing because obviously it's going to be news if Drew and Dennis are, let's say, canoodling in the stew or anywhere else. Drew, what are we doing?

What are we doing? What are we doing, Drew? Drew Sodorah is somebody to me, like, she kind of can't get out of her own way. Like, the whole, everything with Ralph always just seemed like the writing was on the wall from that first time that he was in Tampa and wouldn't tell her what he was up to. It's like, girl, we always knew. And now this thing with Dennis, I don't really care what, what,

is and isn't happening, you know, between the sheets or between the laying down a track with Dennis like, why? Why are we doing this? She just like can't like make one right decision ever. That's what I want from Drew. I'll enjoy watching it in the meantime. But like, girl, one thing. Do one thing right. Portia, I hope that she can film in her house. I hope that she can kind of get it together. There's some tension with her and Shemia that I'm interested in. I can't wait to unpack that more. Overall, I think that this premiere is, it's not a 10 out of 10, but I think it is solid enough and lays down enough track for this season

that we have some clear places to go, some clear things to work on, to get into. And, you know, Cynthia Bailey is there as a fun friend of, I think there's a lot of good ingredients in this stew. And we're going to keep it up. We'll be talking about Atlanta. We'll be talking about lots more throughout this week, throughout this, you know, month, year.

I don't know, whatever. But in the meantime, thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mentioned It All is produced by me, Dylan Hafer, and edited by Kate McAuliffe.

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