Mention It All - Besos, Bath Bombs, & Brilliance: The RHOSLC Premiere

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

It’s RHOSLC premiere night, and Dylan unpacks all the best moments from the season five premiere. From Meredith’s bath-related beef to Angie’s literal scroll of grievances, it’s an excellent episode all around. Plus, we’ve got new women to meet, plus a returning OG. Earlier in the episode, Dylan breaks down a couple of key Emmy moments, and recaps the exciting additions to the fall Bravo schedule. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. It is Wednesday. It is Salt Lake City premiere day. Oh, I'm so happy we have this great premiere episode to talk about. Can Mom Talk survive this now that Salt Lake City is back in town? Ooh, I don't know, but I am excited. excited to dig into all things Salt Lake City. But first, we have a few updates, a few things to talk about. My episode with Heather Gay came out on Monday. That was pre-recorded last week,

so I haven't gotten a chance to dig into the news in a minute. And there is some juicy stuff that has been happening. So I want to get into a few little updates first. First of all, okay, so Sunday was the Emmys. If you didn't watch, let's be honest, no big deal. The traders did win the reality competition series category. That broke a streak of, I think, like six years or something for Rupal's drag race. Look, no shade to Rupal's drag race, but I feel like we can do a better job of mixing up the winners a little bit, mixing up some of the nominees, some of the people were honoring. I did love there was a fun little twist that Padma Lakshmi was one of the presenters of this reality competition award, which is funny because Top Chef has been nominated many, many times.

and has never won. So Top Chef was nominated again this year, and for a split second, I was like, wait, wouldn't it be funny if Padma announces that Top Chef wins the one season that she was not on? I mean, I would feel a little bad.

It didn't happen. Traders won. Alan Cumming accepted the award. He was great. He also won the prior week at the Creative Arts Emmys the reality competition host category. So he won that category, also RuPaul had won that several years in a row, I believe.

And then also Traders for the second season in a row won the casting for a reality competition series Emmy. So at this point, like the Traders is like a bona fide like critical darling. Season three is coming probably early next year. Two more seasons. It's already been renewed for. So that's very exciting. But the other thing that happened at the Emmy is that I want to just touch on briefly

is that on the red carpet, Reese Witherspoon was talking. talking to Heather McMahon. And Heather asked her if she watches reality TV, real housewives, whatever. And Reese said that she has trouble keeping up, but that she recently sat next to a real housewife on a flight and that they might have a Hello Sunshine project cooking. Hello Sunshine being Reese Witherspoon's production company. And this is very interesting. Because when she first said that she sat next to a real housewife on a flight, I'm like, okay so you and Lisa Vanderpump sat next to each other and didn't speak like okay cool story

but then if this person is somebody that she's potentially in business with I'm like okay what's going on what do we have here suddenly suddenly I'm interested and Reese did not name names she said she couldn't say anything more but this made me think because a couple months ago we also got news that Jennifer Lawrence is working on a real housewives based horror movie for 824 and Apple, it feels like there is an increased interest in like Real Housewives and Real Housewives related content from sort of mainstream Hollywood, if that makes sense. That people, I think we've known for a long time, you and me and everyone listening, we know that Real Housewives is something with a lot of layers, a lot of complexity, a lot of potential, a lot of different

sort of avenues that you could pursue to do something related to it. I mean, just look at traitors winning Emmys. But I feel like there was for a long time this idea that real Housewives and everything on Bravo, Vanderpump Rules, all of that was sort of this like trashy cousin to real Hollywood. And I think that that narrative is kind of starting to shift. And this is interesting because we are, we're just a couple weeks away from the 20th anniversary of Desperate Housewives premiering, and it kind of feels like a full circle moment, because Desperate Housewives in a way was kind of like the original inspiration to then do the Real Housewives. And now it feels like we're sort of looping back around. And suddenly it's like real Housewives seems like there's

potential there to turn it into something maybe a little more prestige, a little more, a little scripted, perhaps. I don't know. None of these projects have come to fruition yet. I don't know what this Hello Sunshine thing even would be, but it's interesting to think about. And I mean, like, just look at the perfect couple on Netflix. People still clearly are interested in, um, desperate housewives, I guess you could say. Oh, but yeah, I can't, I'm very interested to see what becomes of that, if anything. We also have a couple of new seasons coming back that have been announced since I last recorded. Uh, so that's very exciting. Our fall calendar is really starting to fill out. Of course, we have Salt Lake City that I'm going to talk about in just a few minutes.

We also have Real Houseways of New York, of course, premiering on October 1st, so I'm excited to get into that. We also have Real Housewives of Potomac, which will be back October 6th. Finally, finally, that Sunday Bravo time slot is going to be filled again. It feels like in the past Sunday has been sort of like a prime Housewives time slot. And then for whatever reason, the last couple of minutes, it has just been a completely blank space on the Bravo calendar. They've been airing recently the Roney legacy season of Girls Trip on Bravo for the first time has been on Sunday nights. But that is not a new show. So honestly, it's been a little strange because scheduling this podcast, I feel like usually Mondays are the easiest day because there's pretty much always been a housewives show on Sunday night.

nights, it's been a little weird the last couple months. I don't know. I think we've done an okay job of filling all the slots, but I'm very excited to have a show that looks really fun back on Sunday nights. Potomac had a little bit of a weird, a weird last season. They have made some casting changes. Of course, Robin is no longer on the show. We also said goodbye to Candice. I think that was her choice. But so we have a couple new housewives this season, some new friends. Kearnah's been bumped up to full-time. And the trailer looks sort of refreshing in the way that it might not be the craziest season we've ever seen. But hopefully, I just want us to have fun. And one thing with this season of Potomac, and this could go either way, is that I know almost nothing about what to expect from this season.

I heard very few sort of rumors from filming for this season. I don't think that there's any, like, massive scandal kind of storyline. Obviously, Karen's, Karen's DUI is addressed in the trailer. That's something that we're going to deal with for sure. But it doesn't feel like this is a season that has already been sort of played out in the tabloids or in the blogs or in the streets or the social media is whatever. And that to me is refreshing. Of course, that could go either way, meaning that maybe there's just nothing to talk about and then it's going to be a disappointment. But I'm keeping it open mind.

I'm ready to just have fun with my Potomac ladies again. I'm glad that Giselle and Wendy can be in the same room together again. I think that was a big issue last season, that it felt like we had these rifts in the cast that were just sort of like frustratingly permanent. And if they've moved past that, I'm ready to move past it too. We also have below deck sailing yacht that's returning the next day after Potomac on October 7th. And this one I'm a little on the fence about because sailing yacht has always

been great, but I, I can't lie. The last year, Below Deck has just been a complete miss for me. I have not watched a single episode of Med. I have not watched a single, I think I maybe watched one episode of Below Deck OG. I feel like Sailing Yat and Down Under had been the best franchises in the last few years. And I know, I know, I know that some of you still really love Below Deck. and I get messages sometimes that are like, you have to watch, you have to talk about it, and I see you, I hear you, I respect you. It's just been a challenge.

It's been a challenge with the timing. It's been a challenge with the scheduling. But sailing yacht, if there's one thing that can get me back into below deck, it might be sailing yacht and the return of, of course, Captain Glenn, but also Daisy and Gary, both back on this season. Below deck is something where I know that there are people who pay a lot of attention, to their filming cycles and who's doing what and where below deck is not something that's on my radar unless it's happening on TV. I was not expecting Gary to be back this season. There was

like some some weirdness and controversy around how things were handled last year. I don't even frankly know all the details of the situations that happened because I had sort of fallen off a little bit. But they're both back. Colin is not on this season. So we're not going to be getting any love triangle, at least not from the two of them. But I don't know. I'm open to dipping my toe back in those Mediterranean waters of below deck sailing yacht. That might have to be a TBD. I'm going to be actually, I'm going to be on vacation for the first couple weeks of October.

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And I am so glad that I spent 42 of those minutes just now rewatching the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City premiere. Let's get into it, shall we? Boy, does it feel good to have these ladies back? Oh, I mean, Salt Lake City, we're now in season five, and it feels like they are in such a good groove. they have come back year after year after year and by that I mean that they have stayed to a remarkably consistent schedule especially in the in the recent era of housewives you know we use once upon a time we saw real housewives of Atlanta coming back the same week in November for like six years in a row that doesn't really happen anymore that's not really the way that the calendars work you know

they've gotten a lot more sort of fluid with their production timelines, which I don't, I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily. But let me just read to you. The Real House of Los Angeles of Salt Lake City, they premiered November of 2020. Then they came back September, 2021, less than a year. September 12th, 2021. Season 3, September 28th, 2022. Season 4, September 5th, 2023. And season 5th. September 18th, 2024. That is about as consistent as you can ask for. And I think it speaks volumes that not only have they been so consistent with their timing, but that they have ridden some huge waves in those five seasons. I talked to Heather about this in our episode on Monday that, you know, between the Jen Shah of it all, last season, how massive that end of the season was with the reality von T's of it all. this is a show where they have been able to really sort of like walk all the way to the precipice and then reel it back and come back and quickly turn around another season and sort of regroup and put the pieces back together and maybe you know find a new configuration for the pieces to be put together but it's kind of remarkable and this season premiere I thought was I don't even want to say a return to form because they were in form before so so maybe a they remained in form as the new season started. And I think that they did something really,

really smart, the editors, specifically the editors. I want to shout them out for this premiere because they pulled something off that I think is really difficult to do because they set this premiere after that little, you know, 90-second dramatic voiceover intro with, you know, the choir music going in the background. Nobody does a dramatic intro like, Lake City. They're like, we make the bargain to put our whole lives on camera. And sometimes we let someone into the circle that comes back to haunt us. And the circle of trust can turn on you. And then it's this aerial view of the women standing in a circle. And then they like detach from the background and literally are spinning around in a circle like a mirror or go around.

they're throwing every trick in the book at Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and let me tell you, I'm eating it up. I'm like, the more dramatic the music, the more heightened the script for the voiceover, the more sweeping shots we're getting through these women's empty-ass houses. It's just like, it's like catnip to a Housewives fan. They're doing such a good job with it. And look, you know, they're talking about sort of the aftermath. of reality von T's, but I don't, I don't have a

fucking clue about what this season is going to be about, but I am locked in from minute two. And that is so smart because I think they know that after the,

the heights of last season, they have to quickly kind of get us back in the zone where it's like, okay, we ended at this wild scene in Bermuda with, you know, Monica walking away from the table

and them grassmen on to each other, like, you know, life rafts on the Titanic. We have to come back down to Earth a little bit, but at the same time, we can't let go of the tension. You know, we have to keep it tight. And so we get this extremely dramatic intro that is kind of like word salad, but in the most delicious salad-y way. And then from there, the entire episode is set at this Bezos party.

And not like Jeff Bezos, like Bezos, like kisses. Because Lisa Barlow just wants to throw a Valentine's Day event to show all these women, how much she loves them somewhere than others, but she's giving them all kisses, little kisses. Basically, it's at this like warehouse barn somewhere on a mountain. It's clearly freezing outside. And for the majority of this episode, they're having like cocktail hour out. I want to say a patio, but it really is giving parking lot. And they, so everybody's, you know, meeting, getting back together. They eventually go inside to a beautiful seated dinner.

But I think that the editing is so smart because they throw us right into this group scene. And every single person is in attendance, very important. But then throughout the episode, they're peppering in these little bits of flashback to, okay, there's going to be this, there's this lunch. Bronwyn and Lisa having a lunch. There's this walk that. Heather and Lisa and Angie went on. Later, we get a clip of Heather at Meredith's Newhouse.

Meredith's Newhouse for, I think, the fifth season in a row that were at Meredith's New House. I love that. I mean, the Chiron of Meredith's New House clearly is the most evergreen thing on Bravo. The way that they kind of stitch together the quilt of this premiere, I think, is so expert. It feels like they're painting with every color in the palette. it because they know that this party, by the nature of the group and the nature of everybody being in attendance, and, you know, Lisa's going to invite Whitney, even though she's mad about

something she said on Nick Viall's podcast. I mean, truly, where, what are we doing with our lives? But then, you know, we're going to have new friends and we're going to have the new housewife and Mary's going to be back full time. And Heather has this body transformation that people are going to comment on. There is so much kind of in the soup at this party that it works better for them to set the whole thing kind of, it feels like we're watching in real time. And then we're kind of getting just the little pieces of context and background that we need to make everything sort of come together into this quilt versus if they had done this premiere where it was, okay, the first scene is going to be three minutes of, you know, Heather going over to Meredith's

house, and then we're going to get three minutes of Lisa meeting with Bronwyn, and then we're going to get five minutes of, you know, Mary and whoever the fuck. That would have worked. It would have been a more traditional episode of housewives, but it would have been sort of like a slow, you know, introduction back. Okay, remember who's who, remember who's mad at who, you know, where to we leave things off after New York because we can't say reunion. It would have been a very like step by step, okay, we're painting the picture for you. But instead, they are sort of building out, fleshing out this world again. And I think it just works so well. And it makes this hour of TV

flies by even though you're essentially in the same place the whole time and that is not an easy thing to do because you can tell sometimes when they're like

okay this party was supposed to be the big thing so it's going to be half the episode and maybe even a two be continued even though kind of nothing happens but truly it feels like we it feels like the camera is like moving with the action

like there's a there's a moment when Whitney and Meredith are talking. And of course, this is, they put out this clip last week and, God, it's just the, it still is the funniest thing. I've seen it like four times now. Of Meredith going up to Whitney and of course having a bone to pick about the bath bombs. The bath bombs?

Bombs. Bombs. Bath bombs. My bath bombs? Oh my God. So Meredith is upset with Whitney. Well, she's upset with Whitney going back to feeling like Whitney was kind of blaming her for some of the reality ofante's allegations. But then now she's freshly upset with Whitney because she had expressed at the reunion last year, sorry, in New York, an interest in doing bath products. And now Whitney is doing bath bombs.

And this is, comes hot on the heels of Whitney doing jewelry. that sneaky, snarky little bitch. She's doing jewelry. She's doing bath. You know that bath is Meredith Singh. Everybody knows that bath is Meredith's thing. If Ken's job is Beach, Meredith's job is bath. Right?

So they're having this little tete-a-tete over like, what are you talking about with the bathboms? I always do bath bombs with Iris and Bo. And it's like, I carried Iris and Bo in my story. and there were bathmoms. He's like, I didn't sell you bathmoms because I didn't think bathmoms made sense in a jewelry store. And there's like, but skincare did?

Truly, like, this is the absolute most meaningless, petty type of argument that I want to see all the time. Just flawless. Flawless. No notes. But anyway, Whitney's like, so I heard that you wanted an apology from me. me and I, uh, I, uh, I, I, and then Angie Kay, sniper from the side sneaks in and she's like, I heard that you want an apology for me too. And I'll apologize to you. But here's what I

want an apology for. And she unfurls this scroll of grievances. And truly, this is the kind of thing where at the beginning of last season, Angie was so flop-coded that her doing this would have been an absolute embarrassment. And I would have been like, get this chick off my screen. Who let her in here? Who does she think she is?

You know, can someone get her a drink of water because she's the most thirsty person you've ever seen? And the thing is, none of that has changed, but something in our brain chemistry. And if you don't feel the same way, I'm sorry, you can't get on my level. But I just think that you should be able to appreciate that something about Angie is like so bad it's good. It's like our friend Ryan Bailey always talks about the so bad it's good of it all. Angie is like so thirsty, so desperate, so performative in a way that is like, she goes all the way around and then back up to the top of the roller coaster.

And I'm like, something about this is just scratching an itch. It feels so just like correct in the most ridiculous way that she has this scroll. She's like, she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You, you said somebody, you should take my home? My home? With like the biggest, widest blinks you've ever seen. Oh, it's so good. Whatever your thing.

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Learn more at Windows.com slash student offer. While supplies last ends June 30th, terms at AKA.m.m.S. College PC. Angie and Meredith I enjoy because Angie is like so at 11 all the time in like a ridiculous way versus like Meredith is like I'll say I don't want to say she is Zand out, but I would say the vibe is it's giving Zand out. Allegedly. I don't know. But so it's like Meredith, it's like every single word that comes out of Angie's mouth just feels like it's giving Meredith a headache. That it's like, I'm not, I can't live your, oh my God. They just like are so, their wavelengths could not be less compatible. And so watching them, you know, it's kind of like a, you know, it's like watching two like different types of animals like try and. have a interaction with each other. It's like they just don't make sense. They don't make sense. But I love to watch it. And when they're at the dinner table inside, and of course, one of my favorite real housewives tropes is when we act like renting a house instead of buying it is a crime. Because they're, you know, and she's like, live your life. And Meredith's like, live your life.

And she's like, yeah, live it. In your rented home. you're rented home. And of course we know. I mean, why would Meredith be buying a house if she wants to move every year? I don't know the details of her finances. I don't know why she moves every year, but she does. And are you going to get a new mortgage every year? Are you going to, are you going to?

Sounds like hell. But she's like, I don't want to rent her talking about my home that I own anymore. Please. I just love that. I just think it's, I just think it's, I just think it's. beautiful. When one wealthy lady shades another wealthy lady for renting instead of owning, it just, again, it sparks joy for me. Speaking of homes, Whitney has a new one. It looks gorgeous. Everybody in this cast, I feel like, has kind of leveled up at this point, except

Mary's house still deeply stresses me out. Like when she's, so she is, um, she's bonding with Bronwyn a little bit, our new housewife, who's friends with Lisa. Bronwyn, really interesting. Interesting. character. She's married to a man who's 26 years older than her. She has adult stepkids. She has a teenage daughter of her own. She has six dogs that are each named after characters from House of Cards, which is like a uniquely cursed show to have six dogs named after. Except I did notice, they flashed the names on the screen. House of Cards, if you're not familiar, it's the Netflix political thriller that starred for all but its last season, Kevin's who then got me-toed and they had to write him out of the show for one last season because it had

already been renewed. So then they just like rewrote it with Robin Wright, his wife as the main character. I did note with interest that she has six dogs named after House of Cards characters and none of them are named after the Kevin Spacey character. So she's like, she's really towing the line there. I don't know. I don't know anybody who feels that. that strongly about House of Cards in 2024, but, you know, the dogs are cute. Six feels excessive, but, you know, to each their own, truly. But Bronwyn, Brunman seems fun. You know, she's, she's very into fashion. And this is something that I feel like five or six years ago when a housewife's main personality trait was fashion, we kind of gagged over that. We were kind of like,

oh my God, she's serving looks. And now because people like Derreet and Erica, and others, you know, it's not, Marlowe, you know, because the bar overall has been raised or maybe just made more ridiculous for how housewives dress, it feels a little bit less exciting to have a housewife in 2024 who's like, the thing you need to know about me is honey, fashion. Because like, it's, when, when it's not like, you know, Jenna Lyons is a fashion icon in a way. Like, she works in fashion. But for somebody like Braun, when it's like, okay, so you just are dressed inappropriately for the weather. You're just going to dinner without pants on when it's 37 degrees outside.

Like, you can tell me that's fashion all you want, but I still am going to say, like, put on some pants. Aren't you freezing? She's wearing this like YSL heart fur jacket. I remember back in the day because Rihanna has apparently there's only three in the world. I remember the photo of Rihanna on that was like the big. biggest thing on Tumblr for years. But she and Mary are bonding over their love of clothes. Of course, you know, love to see it. And Brittany, our new friend of, who's friends with Heather, she kind of sidles up and she's like, oh, Bronwyn, I love your costume. And she, from then on,

just kind of like can't say the right thing. Like, they're talking about clothes and stuff. And Mary's like, oh, I've actually turned my, you know, my house into like a, fashion, whatever. First of all, her house still looks like a disaster. It's so, it stresses me out. But she's like, oh, so you're a hoarder? Like, girl, what? And Mary's like, no, no, no, not a hoarder. But like, because growing up, and she's like, oh, you grew up poor. She's like, I didn't say poor. She's like, oh, sorry, I grew up poor. Brittany, I have my eye on. It's interesting to me off the bat that she's a friend of this season and not. a housewife because from the amount that we meet her in the premiere, it feels like something

must kind of go wrong with her a little bit, partway through the season for her to not be full time. But look, she's dating or maybe not dating Donnie and Marie's nephew, Jared Osmond. She says that they've been dating about eight months and in that time have broken up and gotten together 16 times. That is... Roughly every two weeks. This is a woman who I believe is in her 40s. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to, like, shame anyone else's relationship, but sorry, if you're... Get it together.

What are we doing here? It's so strange. I don't know. But we can move forward a little bit. And once we're inside with the dinner, I've talked a little bit about Angie and Meredith's whole issue. But the other big issue within the group in this premiere is Lisa and Whitney. And of course I mentioned earlier that Lisa is mad about what Whitney said on Nick Viol's podcast about how Lisa is the villain in the group and she's self-centered.

And so Whitney brings it up again at the dinner table. And she says, Lisa, what are you mad about? Because I think that you interpreted that podcast as being about you because you're self-centered. And I'm like, okay, well, we did hear audio clips of Whitney talking about Lisa. Like, just because the entire two-hour interview isn't about Lisa doesn't mean that she, like, can't have feelings about what was said about her. Like, yeah, okay, if somebody mentions me in, you know, if I'm tagged in one photo in an Instagram carousel, I'm still going to, like, scroll through and be mad if I don't like the way I look in that photo. just because all 10 or oh god now it can be 20 photos please edit edit 20 photos is too many but like just because I'm only in one photo doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on the post but anyway

Whitney feels like she was just speaking about her feelings and so when Lisa says that Whitney is lying about her it's like if Whitney were to say that Lisa's lying about Diet Coke being the best because that's how Lisa feels. So it can't be a lie if it's about somebody else's feelings. And, you know, I think that it's really important that we respect other people's feelings. But I don't know that Whitney always does the best job of that. And this is where things kind of devolve. Because first of all, Lisa is mad that Whitney even knows that she was mad about the podcast

which I'm like, you already, like, name dropped that you don't love when people go on podcasts. But she's like, Heather or Angie, it had to be one of you who told Whitney, who was it? And Heather's like, it wasn't me. And right on cue, we get a flashback to Angie going over to Whitney's new house and being like, so Lisa mentioned the podcast. I love that. And this is, again, why I think this premiere is so brilliantly edited because it feels like each, each little incident that, pops up at this Bezos party, we have the exact right piece of footage. So we're not wasting

five extra minutes seeing Lisa and Angie and Whitney hang out when we really just need like 30 key seconds of context. So they really, they like surgically edited this to the point where it feels like there's not a wasted second. And I just, I just love it. But so Angie cops to telling Whitney, Lisa's like big mad at her for blabbing, says that now she feels isolated and like, Like, she was such a good friend to Angie before, but now Angie's being a better friend to Whitney than to her. And Lisa's also now still mad at Whitney for the rumor about her, you know, sucking dick for jazz tickets, which was like season three. Lisa now, it feels like Lisa suddenly is like freshly angry about everything that's ever been done to her on this show. Which I, look, I get that it's hard to compartmentalize.

And as I was saying, they've had a very consistent production schedule. So, you know, they don't have a lot of time to process and actually move on. They're kind of doing this on a schedule. But it also was kind of like, okay, we got to move on for the jazz tickets. But then Whitney, I think, makes the Cardinal Housewives error of claiming that not only is she not lying about Lisa, but that she never lies. She's not a liar. She never lies. And she says, name one thing I've lied about.

and oh, bitch, do they ever? It's like Heather and Meredith and Lisa have all been like unmuscled simultaneously and are just like bark, bark, bark, barking about things that Whitney has lied about. It's like, you lied about my home, you lied about my family, business, my healing journey, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Angie is like, this is a gang up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a pile on. This isn't fair. So suddenly Angie is like Whitney's number one friend.

But it really is like Whitney, my love. You set yourself up for that. And this is something I say all the time that I think it's really stupid when people on these shows make it a thing that they're like, I do not lie because everybody lies. People are liars. Everybody's a liar. You can be a really bad liar. You can be somebody who lies about things that don't matter. that much. You can be, you know, there's different levels to it. But it's like, we all lie.

I lied to get out of a plan like two days ago. And so Whitney suddenly finds herself kind of in a corner with nobody but Angie left to defend her. And Lisa says that Whitney always feels morally superior with her healing journey. And Whitney's like, you want to meet the helld wet. Fuck you, Lisa Barlow. And she flips her off. And she leaves the table and Whitney is out of there. And Lisa's like, yeah, get out of my party. You're going to say F you. You're going to say F you. You're going to flip me off. Get out of my party. She barely wanted her there in the first place. What a premiere. I mean, truly just like a cavalcade of things. A lot to talk about. I didn't even get into Mary's greeting to Heather.

Heather, of course, has lost weight since last season. She is openly on Ossampic. And before even saying hello, Mary just greets Heather by saying, You look pretty and thin. You're thin. Oh, my God. I mean, what could be more predictable? Heather in the confessional, she's like,

wow, who would have thought that all it would take for Mary to like me is losing 35 pounds? Who would have thought we all thought? She doesn't think she looks in red now. I mean, Heather looks great. I really don't like to comment on people's, you know, like weight loss situations, but I mean, she looks great and she's openly talking about it. And clearly the other women feel comfortable commenting on it. So it's like, oh, that's going to be fun this season.

Mary and Angie are friends now. That's random. Whitney brings her other friend, Miley, who's going to be on the season a little bit. I think it's just a good. It's a good premiere. There's a lot to explore. There's a lot of question marks. I think that this season, I'm excited to not know what the big drama is going to be

because I think that leaves room for so much opportunity. And the oxygen doesn't have to all be sucked up by one thing. And I think that's good for us. But that is our show for today. Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Vetches. And until next time, be cool.

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