Mention It All - Black Lives Matter On Bravo (Race In America Special, RHOP)

Episode Date: August 10, 2020

Dylan kicks off the week by explaining why Selling Sunset is the non-Bravo reality show everyone needs to watch. Then, he and Bari recap Potomac, where all the ladies finally get together to celebrate new mom Ashley. They also get into why this season feels so much more exciting than other recent seasons of housewives. Next, they discuss the Race In America special. They share some particularly impactful moments, and talk about the importance of everyone getting involved in these conversations. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hayfer Who gonna check me, boo? And Barry Rosenfeld I need to start drinking alcohol Now go to sleep week Hey everyone Welcome back to another episode of the Mention at All podcast

I'm Dylan Hafer And I'm Barry Rosenfeld And today is actually Dylan's day off But he is so nice and racing us with his presence because we have some important things

to talk about today. We do have important things to talk about. So we were talking about the schedule and it's funny because they premiered the second episode of Potomac super early. So we had already seen the Potomac episode but then last night was the Bravo Race in America special

and we definitely wanted to make sure to watch and give some time to that. So we didn't want to record early but honestly, it's like, I'm, it's day off, but like, I'm not doing anything. I've literally, I know, right? I've only been watching TV. I'm like, okay, I started watching Selling Sunset over the weekend, which is so good. And then I was like, okay, I'm going to watch the new season of Big Brother,

and then I have to watch the Race in America special. And then I'm going to go back to selling, like, I've only been watching TV. Well, that is the only thing to do. But I do have to say really quick that we do have some really sad news. in that Tichala, who is Monique's African gray parrot, is still missing. And I am devastated. I, yeah, so she posted.

This is in real life, not in the show. Like, this is present time. Yeah, so she posted on Sunday that Tichalla is missing. She's looking for him. She has his cage and perch and stuff in the yard in case he flies home. So if you're in, I would say if you're in like the DMV area, call out his name.

if you can. Like they had a bond, a bond that most people don't have with birds, you know? I know. I felt really bad. Wait. Anyway, we'll update you guys on Dajala with is fine. But Dylan, what is it about selling sunset that is so intriguing?

Okay, so season three just premiered on Netflix on Friday. I had still never watched it. season two came out in the spring, I still was like, I don't have time for that right now. I think there were like eight Bravo shows on at the time. So I was like, I'm not taking on another project. This weekend, I was like, fuck it. I don't have any plans. I finally started from the beginning and I just now finished season two. So I probably will be done with all of it by today. So it's the same guy who's the executive producer of the Hills, which I know you love. and I've just recently been watching.

I just watched all six seasons. So it has the same... Adam Devello? Is it Adam DeBello? Oh my God, I'm so embarrassing. Okay. It has the same kind of vibe of like a really glitzy reality show that like kind of sort of doesn't really feel real. And it's the kind of... So it's about...

It's sort of like a million dollar listing, L.A., but like just like, make it way more about the people and way less about the real estate and just like glam. So it's, yeah, it's very like, it's these like five or six women who work at this brokerage that's owned by these identical twin bald guys. And they have this really like kind of breezy like office rapport. But then there's like drama between the women and Christine is like this Erica Jane knockoff who's like super bitchy. And then there's like Chris Sheff. who's a former soap actress and she's now a realtor and she's married to the guy from This Is Us, Justin Hartley.

And then they got, they're getting divorced and that whole thing plays out on season three and she's like born-inted. It's, there's a lot of drama. I will say it feels a little bit lighter than housewives. Like it's very easy to just like put on and the episodes are like 30 minutes. I can't recommend highly enough. I'm late to it, but I'm happy I'm here. Okay.

that was you I mean you sold it you sold the sunset to me I will I will watch it so you'll I'll put it an offer um so let's talk about real house the Potomac because you're right I feel like we watched episode two so long ago so watching it again last night I was like huh I saw this but like I don't remember when but it's pretty sad the way it starts off because we see more of Karen and Reyes' relationship and it's like not exactly what a married couple would want their marriage to be going through on TV. And it said, Karen, you can tell is putting herself out there to him. She's being a lovey-dovey. She loves her baby. And Ray's just not, from what I'm seeing, is not feeling it. Well, yeah, I mean, obviously we don't know exactly what goes on behind

closed doors, but from what Karen is telling us, and from what we're seeing, it seems like Ray basically won't show her any affection. On camera, he won't say he loves her, which is super rough. I I'm glad that Karen is

showing us kind of more into her personal life this season. I think it's going to be, you know, a tough season for her in her marriage, but I'm I'm not, obviously, I'm not glad she's going through that, but I'm glad she, it's seems like she's being more open.

That's something in the past where you've never really been able to kind of pin down what's actually going on with Karen. And, you know, but I do love as much as she's struggling in her personal life, she can still be messy and shady and hilarious in the group setting, which is exactly what we need from our grand dom. Our grand dom. Yeah. So we'll see how much more of that plays out.

But we see now also that Monique and Cherise, their issues. Are we going to see Cherise this season? I need to know because we've only seen her at this party. It's only been one episode. Cherise. But like... She's in the preview for next week. Like she shows up to the sip and see.

And then Monique storms out. So we'll see. Okay. But were you dying when Monique at Ashley's coming out of the house dinner when she refers to Cherise as a... I don't even... It's so... rude, whatever animal, and then a walrus and all this. And then Ashley knew a wardhog. And then Ashley goes,

oh, you're talking about Cherise. And I was like, oh, my God, that is so mean. But anyway, the way she said that where Ashley, like, has food in her mouth, and she's like, oh, we talk about Charisse. Yeah, I was like, oh, no, whatever. But it's very interesting because the producers ask Monique again in her interview, like what the rumors were. And obviously, we know, what they are, but she really, like, shuts it down and doesn't want it to be talked about. And then it brings you back to that question, like, whose life is it to choose, like, who we can talk about and who we can't on these shows? But I guess it really does depend on how it affects each person's family because they signed

up for a show, but they didn't necessarily know these things were going to happen to them, which I, you know, that puts it into a different perspective. It's interesting. It almost like, I feel like it's an interesting comparison on Beverly Hills with the stuff about Denise coming up. And obviously she's not happy about those rumors and stuff being on camera. And it sort of feels like Monique thought, Monique thought that if Charisse wasn't around, then this wouldn't become an issue this season.

But now because Charisse has popped up again that she's like, fuck, now we've got to deal with this on camera. And she still doesn't really want to talk about it. But of course, Giselle right away, it's like, oh, let me tell you what happened. Yeah, Giselle, I can't. She makes me laugh at Giselle. As Monique would say, a bottom behind trick. Yeah.

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which was actually nice to see, that they talked about their problems face-to-face, but they also squashed it. also see her going to lunch with one, which when they asked each other if I knew Robin was there, girl, as a girl, like to my friend, that would be, if one of my friends, boyfriends, husbands, husbands, fiance, asked me to go to lunch, it would be the, it would be the first thing I ask, like, hey, does Robin know we're meeting up? Or is this like a, is it something? That's, that's just what I would ask in the initial text or phone call. Right, because it's like, Giselle showed up.

I think this was definitely a little bit of like production. Let's make it look mysterious. Because Jazeel showed up acting like she didn't know if Juan was going to be like, I killed Robin or I'm going to propose to her. And it's like you had to know that this was like a positive thing. And like, yeah. But obviously, I do, I feel like it was genuine seeing how excited Jizel got when Juan said he was going to propose to Robin.

And I like her way of thinking that the second ring needs to be double the size for. the troubles. I do like that way of thinking. However, I loved Juan's, I just combined their name Ron's. I loved Juan's reaction where he said, but that's not Robin because he knows her so well. So he was like, or he was like, I'm not paying for a double the rank now, but I think he was like, that's not Robin. Like, that's not my girl. That's not whatever. But all of these things, like, I'm so excited to look forward to this season because, you know what's different about this season and then like Real House is Beverly Hills. I'm not like, oh, like this episode is boring.

I need next season. Like so much to look forward to. Fun things are already happening and we have more things to look forward to. We have, on Potomac, I would say we have an embarrassment of riches. That it's like every person has something I'm excited for. Every episode has something I'm excited for. There's no kind of, there's no weakest link at this point. And judging from what we know about this season, I feel like that's going to continue to be

true. Speaking of weakest link in the group not being existing, we meet Wendy more this week. And she is already, I would say, making a great impression. We didn't get a lot of her in the premiere. But in this episode, we see her having lunch with Candice. And they're kind of going through their impressions of the women. And I think it's very funny that both in this episode, both Monique and Candice say that that Jezelle is happier when she's getting some.

Yeah. I mean, that says a lot when multiple people agree about that and aren't even together. But you know what I'm so torn about? Like, I obviously like Wendy and I like Karen. But Karen not liking Wendy makes me like cautious because I'm like, why doesn't she like Wendy? Because I need to say on Karen's good side because Rihanna likes Karen. It all comes back to Rihanna liking Karen. us. I'd like, everything we do from this point out has to be the long game of getting Rihanna

on this podcast. And guys, listeners, it's going to happen. Just, just be optimistic. Yeah, we're manifesting it. We're manifesting it. Like, it's fine. But yeah, so maybe we'll find that, but I like Wendy. I like her, you know, I like her vibe. I like how she seems pretty real to me. She, I will say also at Ashley's dinner later, we see her sort of like, making jokes, cutting up a little bit. And I like that it seems like right away she's comfortable kind of getting her personality in with this group. And that it doesn't seem like she's kind of just taking a backseat until she really knows everyone. And I think sometimes with Housewives, it takes them a while to warm up to the group.

And I feel like Wendy is super comfortable right off the bat. Speaking of the coming out the house dinner, so we see. that Candace is going to be invited, which is a little bit of a interesting point for Ashley. And when Monique tells Ashley, Ashley is definitely, like, not excited. And I love that she says that she would be willing to hear an apology from Candice. Yeah, I was like, okay.

That's the most, like, roundabout way of saying, like, bitch needs to apologize. I died when Monique showed up with a basket because it's such a, like a typical Monique thing to do. Like my friends would do that too. Like just, it's a cute little like gift for Ashley. Like she hasn't been spending time with herself. And did you notice,

Giselle went to go grab it. And she goes, what's this? Like, and she went to go take it. And Monique, like, it's just a little detail I noticed. But Monique was like, oh, this is something I mean for Ashley. Like,

Giselle, like, didn't know what to do. But I thought this was a really fun dinner. I feel like it's, it got a little, took a little left turn. Ashley, I'm not sure if she went the right way with just telling the ladies that she has a little bit of a she might need surgery. And you can tell. Yeah, or a little Botox.

But she kept rephrasing it multiple times to the point where the women just didn't know what she was talking about. And she finally was like, I have a tear in my in my anus and my butthole. And Karen said my favorite line that she's like ever said. Because Ashley said she might need Botox. Botox and a tear That doesn't fix that Like that's not So Karen said

Botox is a miracle worker Which I agree with She said but freezing the butthole Is a whole other can of whoop ass And I was like where did you come up with that? That was so good It was so funny because we saw The can of whoop ass moment

Is in the trailer for the season But we didn't get the full context And seeing Karen with her coffee cup In that confessional look with the like blonde wig the orange. She's like, freezing a booty hall. But like, I don't, it's so funny because you can tell Ashley was being like nonchalant about it, but then

they kept like asking so she kept like saying it almost she kept wanting to be like, can you just get the fucking hint ready? Like something wrong. And Giselle is like Botox. Giselle's like abort the conversation. Wendy looks like she's going to pass out. It was. I know. We spoke

to Ashley recently and she didn't get Botox in her butt. So I don't know what happened or what she did to like fix the issue because that's something that needed to get fixed but enough about talking about Ashley's anus because I don't really want to anymore.

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target of everyone at this dinner. And she says that she wants to have a conversation with Ashley at another time, not in front of the group. And it's funny because Giselle kind of becomes the like ringleader of the table. And she's like, okay, well, there needs to be an apology here, and an apology here. And so why don't you two just do this? And Candace is kind of like, can we not? Yeah. I mean, it's coming like pattern now where the housewives don't want to do any conversation in front of the group, which I find very interesting. But I love that Giselle did that because she wasn't part of any of it. So she can really dictate, like, who is apologizing to?

Because she's like, I don't need to apologize to anybody this week. But I love, you love a good to be continued because we know, it cracks me up because, like, it's going to be on next week anyway. So, like, and most scenes are, like, cut off where they are and, like, but it makes it more dramatic. But anyway, stay tuned for- Karen, I did love when Karen. said, I have been a victim of that gang banging.

And I'm like, I don't think that means what you think it means. Her one-liners are like killing me this season. But honestly, I'm here for them because no one else has them. And like, I feel like her humor is different. Also, I enjoy it because you never know when she's kidding or not. And I love that type of demeanor. Because it's interesting. Anyway.

So. that's that in Potomac, honey. So obviously five episode of Potomac and then afterward Bravo aired their Race in America special, which we've been looking forward to. And I thought they did a great job. I really enjoyed it. It was 90 minutes.

I thought it went by really quickly. Like it was, I thought they did a great job of having really important conversations, but at no point did it feel like preachy or, I think they did a good job of making it very accessible so that anybody who turns on the TV and it's on should be able to sit down and listen and take it in. And I think that's important

because when it comes down to it, it's unfortunate, but 100% of the Bravo audience is not people who think that this is something they want to watch. Right. I think that this was done really well. It was hosted by Nina Parker, who I actually am a big fan of. She hosts E Nightly Pop, which I liked that little crossover. But I think that it was done in a way that it was just an open forum. And it was an interesting group of Bravo Lebrides that they chose in a good way.

I think that they had people share that their own personal stories, which were, it's crazy to like explain like you don't want to hear these things but you kind of do because they're happening to everybody and they're happening to real people and it's really really sad that people still treat others with such disrespect and they did go back to um they cut it in like different segments which i found pretty interesting they talked about education and healthcare and they even had a section called Cairns. And it was nice to see people's perspective on everything that's happening in the country

and that it's not going away anytime soon, which is unfortunate. I really enjoyed the segment about medicine. So they had a few people from the Married to Medicine franchise there. So they had Dr. Simone, Toya, and her husband, Eugene, and Dr. Britton from Married to Met L.A. And I thought it was so great that they were there and that they had that specific conversation because that is such an important thing. And I think you forget sometimes, or it's easy to kind of focus on, you know, more general issues, but that even within all of these specific fields and these people that are successful in what they do, that somebody like Dr. Simone, who has a successful practice and is obviously, you know, a really successful doctor, she's.

still experiences all of these issues in really major ways in her profession. And so I actually think it's, it's, it's really interesting to hear from all these women that are successful in so many different areas, you know, Garcell is an actress. And, you know, all of these women are, have TV personas and, you know, have platforms and businesses and are very successful and that all of them still experience all of this stuff. And we know that. I mean, it's systemic, but to hear specific examples and like when, um, when Toya was saying that she got in a car accident and her two kids were there and it was a white man that she was in the accident with and the police officer immediately went to the white man and was saying, are you okay? And she has kids in the, like,

it's specific scenarios like that. I think for people like us who have, you know, the privilege of not experiencing those, that systemic racism. It's, it's important to hear those specific examples and realize that it's everyday shit like that. It's not just, you know, oh, like, yeah, like, it's a problem sometimes. It's, like, so pervasive. And I thought they did a great job of really, you know, illustrating how much of an issue it is.

And even Porsche, an example she said was that in her condo, um, where she, She lives, she said all of her neighbors are white for the most part. And they asked her, she said at least five different times, like if she was the dog walker. And she said it became almost comical because she was like, really like I live here. But you know what the crazy thing is, is that I can't even fathom someone asking someone that, but that's the crazy part where like I wouldn't ask that. But there are people in this world that would. Like number one, what is it anyone's?

business. Number two, what are you going to do if she was? Like, what difference does it make? And so it's crazy because we look at these people as they're just on reality television and we look up to them. But like they're just people like us walking this earth and some of which being treated unfairly. And so they did talk about how they use their platforms to really share what's going on and Bronwyn mentioned last night, Bronwyn from Real House of the Orange County was on, she's saying by her being an ally and really posting all this stuff and really getting involved that she's lost a few friends over this, which, you know, was kind of crazy to hear and for her to share on this platform. But yeah, I think I think I know some people had criticism of

Bronwyn and Leah being there just because, you know, they're not perfect. allies, Leah especially has, you know, said some whatever questionable, problematic things in the past. But I think it's important to have allies there and to show that it's an issue that everyone needs to be involved in and paying attention to and talking about. And I think for the most part, Bronwyn and Leah kind of took a back seat and let everyone else drive the conversation, which I think is exactly as it should be. But I think it's important to show that, you know, you know, white people don't get excused from these conversations just because it's not their issue. And I think that it was important to have a couple, you know, faces there to kind of

get involved in the conversation. And frankly, when you think about the other cities like New Jersey and Dallas that weren't represented, it's kind of depressing that there's nobody in those casts that would have been kind of like an acceptable fit for a thing, for something like this. That it's like, I think it's good that Bravo is, you know, kind of getting everyone involved. And hopefully that can continue to spread and become something that even more people are talking about because, you know, it's on all of us. And yeah, I don't know. I love, I'm so glad they did this. It was, it felt very necessary.

And, you know, Bravo has so many, you know, incredible, smart, talented, powerful people on the, network and so I'm glad they're kind of putting that to good use and having these conversations. Yeah. So it was race in America, racism in America, a movement, not a moment, which I appreciate that title because it's ongoing. And if you didn't watch it, you should. It was an hour and a half and I agree with you. It did not feel like that. It was actually like, just like it seemed like a conversation that you were watching, so, which it was. But, um, so I highly suggest that, um, if you didn't watch it, you do. And let us know your thoughts. But anyway, um, Dylan, who was your Bravo Lab of the group over the weekend? I, you know, I'm just going to give it to everyone who

is involved in the race in America special. I obviously love Potomac. Well, I'm sure next week, they'll get my award again. But I was just so glad to see this and glad they, you know, stepped up and clearly put production into this. It was really well done. And I hope we see more conversations like this. And also,

Nina Parker, honorary Bravo Lab for the night. Great job. Hope to see more of her in the future. Yeah, I agree with you. And I was going to say Nina Parker too. I was like, wait, can we bring her over to Bravo? Like, that'd be awesome. But anyway,

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