Mention It All - Breaking Down The RHODubai Cast Ft. Danny Murphy

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

Dylan is joined by Danny Murphy, host of the Not Another True Crime Podcast, to get caught up on all the latest Bravo drama. They chat about Jennifer Aydin’s stolen Ferrari, then dive into an analysis of the newly-announced cast for The Real Housewives of Dubai. Later, Danny shares his dream cast list for the RHONY Legacy show, and they also discuss how they feel about the Pandora’s Box that is Winter House. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All. A Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, though. Hey, everyone.

Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I am Dylan Hafer, and today I am joined by a returning guest that I always enjoy having a little Bravo chat with. Please welcome Danny Murphy. Hi, Danny. I mean, Dylan, the pleasure is all mine. What a Monday kickoff. I'm so excited.

I know. I will say I feel. Like I'm on the struggle bus a little bit this morning. What's happening? Well, we had the Grammys last night, which felt like that took like years off of my life. And like a little bit of a hangover, you know, just kind of like a hangover, both in the literal sense of I am hungover, but also in the sense of like a Monday morning, you know, it's a Monday. Yeah. Mondays are just hangovers. Like even if you're not, even if you don't drink, they're just not, they're not good for you.

I'm trying to reframe my Mondays where I don't try to be a good person on it. I just, like, basically considered a weekend that I have to have my laptop open. And it has changed my life. So I recommend for anybody. Wow. I like, yeah, I like the idea. I feel like I'm really good at that mindset on a Friday where I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm working.

But, you know, it doesn't feel. Maybe just adopting that mindset five days a week would be the key to unlocking mental health and happiness. Oh, guys, a good life hack. Get a trust fund, quit your job. And you're going to be so. the serotonin will, like, run in. They don't teach you that on TikTok because none of them want you to know that they have trust funds, but that's besides point. I will say being back in the office sometimes, it's funny because I obviously like watch Bravo as part of my job.

And so, I mean, people just look over and they're like, are you watching TV again? And I'm like, yeah, there's a lot of it. There's a lot to keep up with. I have to watch two different below deck franchises every week. Like, it's not, it is to quote, was it a quote, was it a quote, Courtney Kardashian. It's a full-time job. Or is that Kim? Kim, it's a full-time job.

Yes. Because Courtney doesn't like to work. Right. Courtney's the icon. Yeah. Maybe if she had a fucking business that she was passionate about. But we are going to talk about some random happenings in the Bravo universe today. First and foremost, I just want to send our thoughts and prayers to Bill Aden's Ferrari, which was stolen last night.

When I saw that, I was, I thought it was like a mad libs when I was like, what is Oh, like, is this the new ordle? Like, I'm like, I missed something. And then I was like, oh, God. I need to go find the tweet because I woke up in the middle of the night. And I swear this tweet had just appeared before me. Dylan, you're not helping yourself not sounding like the person who stole it. I woke up in the middle of the night.

Yeah, I'm a little stressed today. I mean, I might have a parking ticket when I go outside. So literally, she tweeted at 11, 17 p.m. Bill's Ferrari got stolen from a garage in Paramus within the last house hour and a half. Please message any info or if anyone has seen a red Ferrari, California. Please notify Paramus PD. I just... I don't like...

Did you see the video that she posted? Yeah! That was intense. And she said the kids and her parents were in the house. Damn. I assume because their house is so nice that they had such like intense, like, security alarms and stuff like that. But I guess you don't have that with a garage? Yeah.

I maybe, or maybe there's like a silent alarm, but they were in there for a couple of minutes. I don't know how fevery works. Despite what you just suggested, I did not steal the car. I would not know how to do that. Also, I feel like getting to Paramus at 11 p.m. would be kind of a headache. Well, and what I was thinking, too, is I feel like now is the time nobody wants a stolen car, A, because hopefully everyone's a good person would be a Ferrari. You can't fill that up with regular, I don't think.

for gas. You're going to need the... So you're going to steal a Ferrari that I don't even know, like, how to how to handle. And then you're going to have to fill it up for like $120 every time you go. No one's going to want your Ferrari. So just return it to the Aden's who can pay their gas. Allegedly, they can pay for gas. Margaret Joseph says enter the chat. Oh, my God. Yeah. No, we hope the car gets returned because it's never fun to have things stolen.

But, I mean, I'm glad everyone is okay, at least. It's one of those things where I'm glad. glad it's a Ferrari. Like, I would love to have my Ferrari stolen because that means I've had a Ferrari. Actually, I don't really like, I don't understand cars, so I don't want a Ferrari, but I hope they get their car back because it's right. I actually was thinking it reminded me of when Monique's bird Tichalla went missing, but I'm like, that's like a little bit fucked up because it's like a living thing versus a car. That was, I mean, and I'm, I love, I love Tichalla. That, when she was live on Instagram for that, because that was in the deep beginning of the

pandemic. Like, that was like a mate, like in 2020 pandemic. And I was like, I needed this. Because Chachala was found. I was like, I'm just watching a housewife run around the state of Maryland looking for a parrot. And I'm like, this is, this is what I need because I don't have a vaccine yet. It was, it was my vaccine for a week. I just, I completely had forgotten that that season of Potomac where Monique and Candace got in the fight happened during the pandemic. It feels like it was like years and years and years ago, and I guess it almost was. At this point, yeah. Well, did you say, I mean, it's not on Bravo, so not Bravo by Vatchez.

But Monique's going to be on a new show, I think. Yeah, I think it already premiered maybe. No, I mean, it's on the own network, the Oprah Winfrey network, and it's love and marriage, DC, or DMV. And it's like a spinoff because they have another one that's like, love and marriage. I want to say it's like Huntsville or something. It's a really random location. And I want to say the producer of it is like one who was like a bravo, like got their

likes of bravas. It's that guy Carlos King, I think, is producing it. Who did a lot of Real Housewives of Atlanta. I think he just wrote a book too maybe or a podcast. He did some Jersey too. Yeah. He's really legit. I don't know anything about love and marriage.

The concept in the reality show. I mean, one could say. But I have noticed I'll be on Twitter sometimes, like on the Bravo Twitter account and I follow all the Bravo liberties and I'll see that Monique is live tweeting both her show and the original show. Like they're on back to back, I guess. And I'm like, okay. Have fun. You know what? Star employees.

She's like, no, I'll do both. I'll tweet both. I'm sure that's in the contract. Those essential oils keeping our wake. But speaking of new shows, I want to talk to you about real housewives of Dubai, which, we got an official announcement on Friday that it is premiering on June 1st and it's going to be on Bravo, not on Peacock. I know some people were confused about that.

I'm shocked. Yeah. So that is happening. And we now have official confirmation of who the six housewives are going to be. And I want to go through the cast and just some like quick hits on who these women are because it seems like a very eclectic group. and they've clearly, it feels like they've found people who all really want to be public figures. Because if you scroll through, aside from what any of them do for work or anything like that, all of them already have Instagram followers.

Well, yeah. Yeah, like three. So Caroline Stanberry, obviously we knew she was going to be on the show. She's kind of like the, you know, center, I don't know what they're holding. Center Diamond, we'll just say that. Oh, they're just holding their hips. They're all walking down like that. Okay.

That works too. Yeah. But so Caroline Stanberry, obviously, she has over half a million followers. But two of the other women on the cast have over half a million followers on Instagram as well. I mean, I don't know. There's a chance that, like many other things in Dubai followers can be bought. But I don't know. I was kind of impressed because sometimes I remember sometimes Housewives come on the show with like zero social media.

presence. So Julia from Miami and then Larissa has to fight with her about it or maybe fight with her. But I did, I think that was important for them to do because it needed to, I mean, I am excited for Caroline to kind of like kick us off with this season, but or the series. But I think they needed people who had a following and kind of a footing of their own so you can't be like, yeah, Carolyn, you can't tell me shit. I also can like run circles around you.

So let's get that straight. You know what I mean? Right. And it's not like, you know, it seems. we don't know exactly maybe who has the most money or who might pretend to have more money than they do. I could see that being a situation. But they all have things going on. Like we have this woman Chanel Ayon who is a supermodel, we're being told. She is apparently the first, she's from Kenya originally and was the first black model to be on a magazine cover in Dubai. And

so, you know, she has stuff going on. There's this woman Lisa, Laysa Milan, who is a former Miss Jamaica, and now she's a fashion designer. Nina Ali is a lifestyle content creator originally from Lebanon and then Texas and then now Dubai, which is... You guys know that classic trajectory. I can't wait to hear her speaking voice because I'm like, there has to be an accent, and I just need to know. There's some, yeah.

I also like, too, she's the one who's like, no, I'm a content creator and I'm going in this show as well. That's always interesting. It's giving a little bit of Megan. King Edmonds vibes where it's like, well, I have a blog and I'm doing candles. And it's like, okay, I will see. I'm like, yeah, I can also rip off a T.J. Max logo and say I made a candle too. I'm really intrigued by Dr. Sarah Almadani, who, okay, so she's listed, she has a whole website. She has a lot of different things going on clearly. But they include doctor in the like cast

announcement. But then there's no mention from what I've found of what type of, what type of, of doctor she is. Mm-mm. Is this a PhD situation? Is it like I deemed myself a doctor? Because she's a tech entrepreneur and a public speaker who apparently has done a ton of keynote speeches and she's inspiring women in the Middle East to have successful careers and stuff, which is amazing.

But it's funny because usually when somebody's a doctor on this show, it's like Wendy's talking about her PhD. we see Tiffany Moon going to the hospital and it's like, okay, Dr. What? Yeah, and Dr. Nicole having her little snacks at lunch. I know this very, yeah, it's really, it's because it's sort of like when I learned that Dr. Phil wasn't like,

he was like, he had a PhD and he wasn't like a psychiatrist or saying. I'm like, what? What's your PhD in? So I do love having that moniker, but hey, you know what? If she got a degree in something and she can say it, I'm not going to fight with her, but I'm sure a lot of the other ladies are going to fight with her.

Right. Like, I'm more, right now, I'm more curious than judgmental because I just don't know and I would like to know. Well, what I'm also curious about is because Chanel has, I think, I read on entertainment tonight, she runs a talent agency. So I'm, like, curious too. And I guess I have seen, like, models pivot into, like, having their own, like, modeling agency and stuff like that. But I'm excited to see now, like, a Bravo Lebb going into that field because I'm like, is she going to now be the agent for all the other ladies in the show or something like that? But I do think I am excited also because she's like a trained supermodel and like knows a thing or two about being in the public guy and all that.

I feel she's going to be able to mix her modeling with her talent agency expertise and like kind of come out as like the frontrunner of the show. Okay. Yeah. We had Cynthia Bailey once upon a time doing the Cynthia Bailey modeling. But honestly, that always felt a little bit storyline to me. I'm not necessarily saying that it wasn't real or that she's that's never been a real business. but it's like when somebody starts that when they're already on the show, it feels a little bit like, okay, something to do.

But it feels like coming out of the gate, at least from what we are hearing about these women, it seems like they all do pretty much have stuff going on, which is I like that. I mean, I think there's a time and a place for real housewives who are really just housewives. But I think especially for a new show that's happening, I think it's encouraging that there's going to be more activity going on in their personal lives. I also feel, too, it's going to be important because a lot, I mean myself included too, I'm not the most familiar with Dubai. So, like, seeing these women, like, going and, like, doing, like, a day of work and stuff like that and kind of having those layers to kind of get yourself to know the, like, the area a little bit more. I feel like it'll be refreshing. I feel like it's almost kind of like when New York City premiered for, like, people that, like, I've never been to New York and being able to, like, see kind of how, like, these ladies go about the day. That might be a bad example because I can't really remember what any of those ladies did for work besides.

Bethany's selling fake muffins and Whole Foods, but... Well, I mean... Ramona Singer, of course, was a self-made woman, very successful. Money's an aphrodisiac. She was buying, like, unsold clothes from Macy's or whatever. And I saw a tweet the other day, which was funny, that it's like iconic of Roney to just never mention the fact that theoretically at some point Ramona Singer retired from her job. Because in the first season or two, she talked all the time about how career-oriented she was and she had this business and Mario did the true faith jewelry.

And then at some point, I guess, I mean, if Mario went away, then that jewelry, but like she had a clothing business that we just never heard about again. I feel it's one of those things because I feel like if you never hear about it, it's less of a retirement and more of like, oh, the money dried up and they just don't want to discuss it. Like all other brands. Right. I'm surprised she was able to steer clear of ever having that be brought up to her on the show. No one ever like, yeah, waved it in front of her as like a failure or something. That is interesting. Right.

Like, why isn't Luann like, well, Ramona, your business doesn't even exist anymore. I mean, she's too busy crunching the number on how successful Fosé is. You know what? She's just like, damn, another case sold. Okay. What I want now for Roney Legacy. I just want Ramona to be in the first episode. Just so, like, somebody, I don't know, maybe Kelly Ben-Simon, maybe Cindy Barshup comes and does it.

Just come up to Rowan and be like, Ramona, how's your business? I, oh, you know what? If she's like, you know what, I'm done, and then she never comes back. Yeah, so you want, yeah, yeah, that actually would be a part. I mean, the Bravo track record so far for new season premieres with cast members like that, like when Jenny came back, got confronted and then left. So you know what? Maybe that's going to be their new thing. Oh, I forgot about that, that they filmed that.

I can't. That's so, it's going to be strange. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, Frame, and Free People. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for, for, great brands, great prices. That's why you rack.

Girl, winter is so last season. And now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. That perfect hang on the patio sundress. Those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. I'm curious. So the last time, or actually, maybe I've seen you since then, but I saw you at our friend Sarah Galley's live show a couple weeks ago. And there were Kelly Ben-Simon was there as a guest. Carol Radzwell FaceTime appeared in the middle of a restaurant. I'm curious to get your thoughts on if there. any maybe like wild cards that you feel you would really like to see on Roney legacy? I, well, I mean, Kelly is a shoe-in. I am the strongest fan of Tinsley, I think, in my entire

life. I like need her to be happy and get back out there. And honestly, like, I kind of think they need to like plop in one of those randoms. And like, I would love Jules. I know she's not really legacy because she was only on for like maybe 20 minutes and like just smoked 50 packs of cigarettes, but, like, I think she has gone through so much. And if she can't do Legacy, get her on an ultimate Girl trip, because I just really was into her. And I think she didn't have a fair chance with, like, the Bethany machine. And now, because Bethany probably will not go on legacy, despite the fact that she would take the money if she could. But I think it would be fun for her. I, yeah, I think when I think of them casting Legacy, I don't actually think

legacy means anything. I don't think you have to, I don't think there's eligibility rules to be considered legacy except for having been on Roney at some point. Rony at one point. But I do feel like Jules and Tinsley and Kelly are kind of in that second cluster where they're not kind of the core group of, you know, I feel like Jill is in that group. Or like Jill, Luanne, Ramona, Sonia are kind of Bethany would kind of. of be like the core that feel kind of like the essence of Roney.

But I actually really do hope that they bring some people in that are a little bit less obvious choices, maybe like a Jules. Or I think Kelly and Tinsley, I think a lot of people would like to see them. But at the same time, they weren't housewives for 10 seasons. It's not their entire identity. Exactly. And I think that would actually make it more fun because I sort of feel like if they, if they just pick the five most obvious people, it's going to kind of feel.

feel like reunion, you know, all-stars. Like on Paramount Plus, they do the real world homecoming. And it's like, I don't want it to be that for Roney. Like, I want it to be, like, an exciting new show. Well, also, they need people who are going to, like, clash and not rehash the same fights of all times. Like, that's why Jordan Dintends could be fun because they don't really, they have a lot of issues together, but they can get it on together.

I mean, I don't know, a lot of people are even saying, like, maybe Leah goes over there because her and Ramona can keep on spatting and stuff like that. It is interesting. In a recent interview, Luann was mentioning a lot of people she wanted Anna and did not say Sonia, which I don't know if that was a slip-up or something. But... Yeah. I don't know.

I feel like Sonia is weirdly... I feel like they sort of forget she exists when they're not filming with her. I know. And I almost... I mean, I think she sort of does that to herself because I've posted on Instagram about how my favorite thing about Sonia Morgan is that when they're not filming, I swear she spends 80% of her time outside of the city

at like wellness retreats and spa resorts and all of these places. And so I genuinely feel like she just isn't around when there aren't cameras on her in New York City maybe to save money. But it's like, I feel like she's not kind of working the circuit in the way Ramona or Luana are where they're probably running into each other and they're going to luncheons and all of this stuff.

Like Sonia doesn't really, I don't feel like she actually exists in New York City at this stage. No, she's a ghost of New York. That's actually really valid. And I guess that is why. And she also isn't as like hungry for Roney, I feel like, as they are too with that. Which good for her for having somehow a level of peace and balance. I don't, I'll call it that because I do love her.

I have a sauce spot for. Yeah, which is funny because perhaps she needs the paycheck more than some of the other people do. But at the same time, it does feel like she is less kind of, I don't know. Like, she feels less desperate in a way than

like a Romana or Luan. But at the same time, I mean, she's doing her non, not a cabaret show. Oh, Sony in the city. Oh, yeah. I don't, I really don't know what. With UTA, which is like, me,

I mean, I guess because she's like a huge person, but I'm like, damn. Yeah, I went to her. I saw her, like, dress rehearsal thing in the fall. It was weird. But, I mean, it was fun. I had a fun time. But it was interesting.

Like, Luan is born for the stage in that regard for the cabaret. Sonia, it's like, because, like, I feel like it's probably, like, just all over the place. Her body and the setting. Well, and I think Luan, I don't know if I would ever say that she is super talented vocally or anything. Oh, no. But I feel like she's very, when it comes to her show, it's well rehearsed, it's put together, she has the outfits, she has the set list,

she has the band, you know, it feels like... And the producers of it are so good too, yeah. Right, it feels like at the very least, it's like an actual disciplined show, whereas I think the Sonia thing is a little bit more like, we're throwing shit at the wall, and as long as we can sell the tickets, this is going to be a good time,

and it's like, okay. She's like, people just want to see Sonia be Sony, and it's like, oh, sure, yes, but not for like, however much she's like, her tickets for her. I know. I don't think they're that cheap either. I mean, hey, she's going to pay her rent, 20,000 months. All new drinks are now at McDonald's, with refreshers like the strawberry watermelon refresher and the mango pineapple refresher with popping boba to crafted sodas like the Spriteberry blast with berry flavors and cold foam. Who knew ice cold drinks could be so

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Visit Red Bull.com slash Bright Summer Ahead to learn more. this summer. Okay, I want to pivot a little bit and talk about Real Housewives of New Jersey this season because I don't think you and I have really had a chance to chat about it. And I'm curious how you've been feeling about this season. And specifically, I want to talk about what went down last week at the softball game and leggings gate. You could call it.

Oy, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yeah. I honestly, what I love about Jersey is that these ladies know they want to enjoy themselves. So they are like, we're going to go in, give Bravo what they need. You're going to get like 12 or 13 episodes. It's not going to stretch out long. They're like, you can just film us for like four weeks and there will be enough drama more drama than any of the other shows.

Like they got right to the chase. There's no like catch-ups. So I really love that about Jersey. And I am enjoying this season. The legging situation, because I am a Margaret Joseph's fan. I love her. And she really, she's like, I like, I want to be her when I grow up, I feel like, because she just is like living her best life.

I would have just worn the leggings because I'm afraid of confrontation, but that's also why I'm not a housewife. But I do love that every single person was like, they're so heavy. Like, and it looks so hot out there that I'm like, people are going to faint with these, with these leggings. And I don't know. I do think it was kind of a weird moment that Teresa did the leggings promo at the tree and also at the softball game because the top ball game was for charity.

But I understand she's literally just there because she's like, I need some checks. Yeah. It was very, it feels like Teresa is, to me, a little bit more openly not having a great time than she has in the past. That I feel like her being on the show has always been kind of a foregone conclusion. And even if she doesn't like everyone or if maybe she isn't having the best time, it never feels like she really is like, why do I have to be here right now? because it's like this is her whole life. This is her whole thing. I mean, we don't know Teresa not as a housewife.

And I've seen some people starting to say that if Teresa really is so happy with Louis and if she feels like people are trying to come for her and her love bubble and all of this, that they could see her potentially walking away from housewives, which I think I still have a hard time seeing her really pulling the plug. Yeah. But you never know. Well, and it's interesting, you say that because it's, It was so, it's kind of like a really insane flip because I've never seen her as happy as she was on Ultimate Girls Trip.

And like, I was like, oh, Teresa's a whole new person now. And she is kind of giving miserable. I mean, she's even said, I don't want to be here. I'm really pissed off on a jersey. And I could see her try to pitch. I mean, now that it is so interesting having like the whole peacock element of everything. Like, would she want to do just like a peacock series of her and her family? And like, none of Jersey.

And I feel now we're at the first point, too, where I feel like, oh, Jersey could continue without her. Teresa, that's no shade to you. That's just shout out to what you built. And I know, but I, and I feel like it's because I can't handle five more seasons of just people getting mad about Louis because I'm like, he's like, because she's not going to respond to any of it. So it's kind of like a dead end because she's not going to change her way or anything like that until more stuff comes out about him, but even that won't change it.

That would just make her have to answer her question. Right. Yeah, they taped their reunion last week. And I am really curious to see how the Louis. topics are handled at the reunion because I do feel like it's going to be hard to go into another season if everything just kind of stays unaddressed and if Teresa is permanently just in this place of anybody bringing up my relationship is attacking my happiness and I won't engage in that because it's like I get that of course people Teresa's been through a lot

people have come for her happiness in, you know, various different ways. But at the same time, it's like, you're on the reality show that you've been doing for. And also, she's come for people's happiness. Yeah. And it's like you, you did sign up for this. And like it or not, Louis also signed up for this. He knew what he was getting into. And the idea that I don't necessarily think Louis is the worst person in the world and

want Teresa to dump him tomorrow. And, you know, I don't, that's up. to her, but at the same time, it's like, for us to be satisfied as viewers, there has to be some kind of, okay, we'll talk about it. I'll say what I'm going to say, and then it'll be done. Like, even just that would make it feel a little less icky, I think. Yeah. And it is interesting, too, because now I feel like we're in the first time where, for a while, I was like, well, Bravo would just never get rid of Teresa. But now I'm like, bravo was kind of like doing whatever the hell they want to do to make the show is good. And also,

I think, I feel like sometimes I even forget to, I'm like, the longer you're on, like, the significantly more money you get, too. So it's not even like, they're just like, oh, we'll keep you on. It's like, if they're giving Teresa multi-millions and she's not really giving them anything new, I could see them kind of be like, okay, well, we need to, we can find, we can hire three new people for the price of Teresa at least, or even more than that, and kind of like re-shake it up. Yeah, I think we don't always talk about the, the budgetary aspect. of it, but I do think that is a real thing that comes into play.

I think that was actually a major factor when on Orange County, they got rid of Vicky and Tamara because they felt like they weren't, they felt like the show had kind of gotten stale. And both of those women were having, you know, a million dollar contracts. And there aren't, there aren't actually that many people on Bravo who are making that much money. No. I mean, obviously we don't know exactly how much every single person makes because a lot

of that is private or speculation or whatever. But even most, like a housewife who's been on the show for a few seasons is still probably only making like a couple hundred thousand dollars. They're not making millions of dollars the vast majority of them just to do the show. No, because all the money comes from like the appearances of sponsorships and them just not knowing how to budget and getting into the credit card debt, which makes great TV later on. Like that's kind of where, that's kind of where the lavish lifestyle shows up. Right.

I think Leah McSweeney was talking about, I think for her first season, she made like 60,000 bucks. I think so, like 60 or 60. Yeah. For like a 20, 20 episode season. I mean, that's a pretty big commitment. And that there was, there had been back and forth about her, them not wanting to give her very much of a raise for her second season. So I think, yeah, I think people sometimes are a little bit, don't realize kind of how much those million dollar contracts add up compared to. people that have been on the show a few seasons.

I'm sure Jackie and Jennifer at this point are making pretty decent money from the show, but they're not getting paid a million bucks to do a season. No, not close to. I can't imagine, I feel like probably the only two people on Jersey doing that as Teresa, and maybe Melissa's, like, right at there.

Yeah, but. I think Melissa probably, I think Melissa probably gets a nice paycheck. And also the husbands do get paid on Jersey. So, um, I never knew that. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, it's different for different, um, franchises.

Like, you'll notice that some of them, like obviously New York hasn't had husbands in a long time. But like when they're doing, because like on New Jersey, you'll see them go and do scenes with just the husbands. Oh, whereas there are some shows or some seasons even where you don't really see that.

Or like, actually we had, I had Ashley, Jacqueline's daughter, Ashley Malo on a few weeks ago. And she was talking that she started getting paid after the first season, which I never even really thought about. I was like, though, like, I mean, I guess that I, you kind of think of it just like going

to the family. Yeah. Yeah, no, exactly. I'm like, it's Jersey. You're just talking about me family. Yeah. But, yeah. Well, that's what everyone is so curious about how much Gia is getting paid this season,

because she is like, confessional, drama, but she's not a friend of. Right. I guess she's getting some type of a check. What did you think about Gia's involvement in the leggings situation? I am cut from the jersey. cloth where you do not talk to any of your parents' friends or an adult like that to Margaret Joseph's when she's like she's supporting you? And also I'm like, when has Teresa ever supported any of these ladies? I think it's like, you go to the bath. You do what I would have done

what Gia did in the bathroom to Teresa. It's like, Mark is talking about your leggings. But I wouldn't have said anything to her face because I, that, that's the OG jersey and me. I'm like, the kids don't do that. But the Roney, the Rone J jersey girls never really did that because Ashley's famous hair pole and the man's our brother shouting. But I don't, it wasn't, it wasn't as iconic of a moment as that. So I don't really feel it was necessary. Right. And yeah.

I also just felt like, and I agree with what you said earlier about how if you were Margaret, you probably would have just put the leggings on to not make an issue. But I also felt like with Gia, I don't have an issue with Gia being involved in general. But I felt like with that, it was specifically going back to what had happened. at the ropes course and the way that Teresa really was not willing to give Tracy or Margaret the time of day. And it was, I mean, Teresa's demeanor at the ropes course was kind of shocking to me. I mean, we do not see her like that very often.

And so I felt like Gia was a little bit overstepping, not even just to like in a respect your elders kind of way, but also just you weren't there. at the event that people are mad at your mom for. Like, you don't actually know what happened that day. So I feel like it's the kind of thing where if you don't have the context, you probably shouldn't be the one getting involved. And also, I am kind of, it's kind of a flip because what I love so much about Gia last season was how she kept her, tried to keep her mom very level-headed.

Like, even when, like, because on the scene when, like, she was talking to Teresa about the Jackie thing, when she was like, she didn't mean, mom, it wasn't, like, she didn't mean it like, that she was trying to explain to you what it would mean and stuff of that. I was like, okay, wow, gee, okay. Okay, Gia with the Rutgers. Yes, go on. And then now I'm like, now, now Gia is trying to like get herself ready to like, I don't know, maybe be on the new Roney or something like that because now she's going to get

more into the drama moment of it. Yeah, now that she's 21, she can go to the summer house. Yeah. Which I would fucking love. I have mixed feelings. I don't know about the mixing it up so much with the shows. I think Winter House. as much as I enjoyed it, also opened a little bit of a Pandora's box that now

it's, it's hard to, it's hard to put like the sleeping bag back in the little holder. I heard him like, camping icon. Because I heard the thing was like, Paige might be going down to like, I'm like, does she going to want to go to Charleston now like for Eves? Is Craig going to want to move up? Like it's just, there's so much like back and forth. And it's because it's like, oh, they would have to move. And then I feel like Summerhouse is in such a place where it's like, who can continue staying on this show, who's going to graduate to another Bravo show, who's just going to stop?

Like, it's really weird. Yeah. Right. And there's been chatter that potentially somebody from Summerhouse could be on the rebooted Roney. Tell me it's hubs. I mean, no, I haven't heard like, I don't think there are like rumors. I think people are just talking about it because it's interesting. I would love that, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think that could potentially be interesting. but at the same time it could also be kind of a flop. Yeah. But I also, so Austin and Craig did their pillows and beer tour show in New York over the weekend. Sure, that's a sentence you just said to me, sure. Yes, it was at the town hall. I believe it was sold out.

But our friend Gibson Johns was there and he shared some little tidbits of tea from the show. And apparently they said that, first of all, Austin, I guess, has made up with everyone on Winterhouse. Um, so like Sierra and Lindsay and him are fine, I guess. But also- But Lindsay's not on Winterhouse, is she? Oh, is she not this season? I am so bad. No, because her, because I only know that because her, Carl and Danielle are always in Aspen

and I thought that was Winterhouse. Right. And I think it's because, yes, yes. Oh, so he made up with Sierra, not at Lindsay. That's interesting. But then they also teased that there are going to be more people from other Bravo shows this season on Winterhouse. And I'm like, where do we go with this?

Like, I don't know. I mean, there might be, they're, it's slided to my DMs if there is like tea about this that I've missed, but I know there's been chatter about like Tom and Ariana potentially going or, I know it's, or like, I mean, I think it would be fun to, I just think it's like a little bit, you start to get to a little bit of a place where it's like, how real are we pretending this is? Because Winterhouse, I think it's interesting. they did not do like ultimate girls trip the way they framed it was very much like we're all housewives and we're going on this show there was no fourth there was no fourth wall exactly yeah whereas on winter house it was like we're doing a 17 day vacation with a group of friends and it's so exciting and yeah actually i know austin from way back and it's like bravo cast you on the show yeah and it's a little bit i think the more you add different characters from the bravo universe even if they know each other in real life because they're on Bravo shows. We still, it's like, I don't want to suspend my disbelief that you guys all just booked this Airbnb together. Because I liked Winterhouse as, because when it was first starting, I thought it was just

going to be like the summer house people in winter because they wanted a, because they wanted more money, which is fair and real and they're entertaining. And I'm like, yeah, keep the drama going because they are all living in the city and they have their drama continuing. Now it kind of seems like a broad. con event that's gone on too long because it's like fun to mix and match at like something like that where it's like all these people together but now I'm like oh they're having like drama together it's very very bizarre right because then I'm thinking okay what if they sent

somebody from like family karma to be in the winter house that would be fun for them to get that kind of exposure like they said Marlow she's like who the fuck are all of you it's like I'm way too fabulous for this yeah but then it's like okay so if somebody from family karma goes to the winter house, then do we have to have like Paige and Amanda come to visit Family Karma next season? Because that, I don't need that.

I don't necessarily think we need more of that. I'm fine with Paige being on Southern Charm because that's real. Like they're actually together. So it would be weird if she just, if they were like, oh, Craig's new girlfriend, I heard her name is Paige. It's like, I don't know.

It feels like we're playing with fire. They should just do more like little, vacation spin-off shows with different pockets. Like, have the Vanderpump crew do their own Winterhouse, have Summer House do their own, or something like that. You know what I mean? So it feels more authentic and organic. I'm down for more experimentation,

but I think if you just, like, keep adding characters to Winterhouse, I don't know. Where do we go with that? What are the ramifications? Yeah, and I'm like, what are we doing with it? Because it's a thing, too, because I loved Winterhouse goes, like, oh, you get to see the continuation of the drama of like Kyle Amanda, which I'm like, why I wanted that?

And I'm like, and then all these things. And now it's sort of like, it's just such a hodgepodge of like, no one knows what the fuck they're doing. And also now everyone in Winterhouse is like a couple. So I'm like, why the fuck? I guess that's why they're bringing in new people. But then if Tom and Ariana come, there's still a couple too. I'm like, I don't want to just watch like all the people from my high school who are like engaged and happy on Winterhouse.

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I don't know. Happy couples just don't make good TV, do they? No. Oh. Besides Jackie Nett. Well, I guess they had the drama, but I do love that.

And Margin. Yeah. I mean, like, we like, we like cute couples, but it's like, that's not a storyline that Margin. Joby are happy. Everyone listening was like Kyle and Amanda are happy. Even though he did make me, like, she did tear off. That was a cute moment at the dinner. Everyone forgot about it because the dinner went so south.

But like, it was very sweet. As sweet as sweet as you know, they're, they might not be a happy couple, but they're together and married. A fun shout out because at page six, we have this astrologer who like deep dives into couples on, you should have her on deep dives into couples on Bravo. And she was like, Kyle and Amanda, she was like, they're the real deal. She's like their moons and like, their love languages are so similar and so combative. But they both look at love as business transactions. So it makes a lot of sense why they have the business together. And they're like, it's an investment.

So that's why they fight because they're like, you're not pulling your weight in this business. And then they make up once they have like a successful moment. Wow. Suddenly I'm team Kymanda, and I didn't... I know. It's a moment. That is interesting. Speaking of page six, tell everyone where they can follow you, find you, listen to you, all that good stuff. Yes. So, of course, I do not another true crime podcast here every Monday with Sarah, who I love.

But I also am page six hosts, and I do recap videos on everything, page six for Housewives. And then I also do the Housewives Hangover Newsletter for... them that comes out on Friday. You can sign up for that. And I do virtual reality a bravo recap on on them for Friday. And you can follow me at Casimir Danny, Casimir with a K. I sometimes will be on page six. And then I realize in the corner, I see you and Evan talking to each other on mute. And I'm like, ah. It comes on a lot of random articles that aren't housewise related. You should, do you know, Evan? I'll connect you with them too. We follow each other on Instagram. Yeah. Oh, he's such a sweetie. I have to have him on. Danny, thank you so much for joining. I'm so

excited for Dubai and all this other stuff we have going on and you'll have to come back soon and chat about that. I'm so in. Okay, perfect. Thank you guys so much for listening. Don't forget to rate, review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All is produced by Sean Kilby and Jorge Morales Pico. Editing by Sean Kilby. Social media by Dylan Hafer. Guest Booking by Nicole Pellegrino. Be sure to follow at Bravo by Betches on Instagram and Twitter.

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