Mention It All - Buca di Dorit (Vanderpump Rules, RHOBH)

Episode Date: May 14, 2020

Bari and Dylan are back from their online shopping sprees to break down two A+ episodes of reality television. First, they dive into the dueling pool parties of Vanderpump Rules, and decide which looked more fun. They also get into the Jax of it all, and why his gym/drug habits are genuinely concerning. Next, they pivot to RHOBH, and why the war on Kyle is exactly what we needed. After discussing Dorit’s burgeoning pasta empire, they celebrate Denise Richards, because it’s what she deserves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And Barry Rosenfeld. I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep, we. Hey, guys, welcome back to another episode of the Mentioned All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer. And I'm Barry Rosenfeld. Hi, I'm struggling. I really almost said Happy Friday, and that is just so tragic.

It is Thursday. Well, I went outside today for the first time. Yes. I went to, like, run and grab some groceries last night at like 9 o'clock, and I realized I got outside. I was like, this feels weird. And then I realized it was the first time I had been outside after dark in two full months. And that's so bizarre, because normally it's like, oh, yeah, you're like out to dinner. You're out, like going out.

errands, you're staying at work late, whatever. It's like, I'm out after dark, like, every fucking day of my normal life. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, I forgot what nighttime feels like. That seems like a good day to go, a good time to go grocery shopping, though. I thought you were going to say you went for a run. And I was like, don't do that. Oh, all the way off. If I'm going for a run, it's going to be like, for like five minutes, like right. To the liquor store. Yeah. I'm not going for like, people that run. outside at like 7 a.m. are psychotic to me. I'm like you can go go like for like a leisurely like after work jog but like why are you waking up for this like yeah it's really crazy though like I went outside today to move my car and it's like a very weird feeling to think that this is how the city could

have been or could be everyone is so chill they're so this is what I'm seeing and I've seen it every time Like they're just strolling. There's like no rules right now, which is kind of weird, other than to wear a mask. Like I even approached a police officer just to like ask about like the parking situation right now. And honestly, she was like, we're not really doing anything. Like everyone, they're basically like New York City is in a free fall right now, but a calm one, which I love. It is interesting. Like I will go for a walk.

I, at like 5.30, 6 o'clock. and there are so many people just out, I mean, still being distant, wearing masks, whatever, but people are just kind of like doing their own vibe. And it's been long enough now that people are kind of settling in,

which I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. But so I, last night, speaking of, I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. Last night, I placed an online order for a set of sheets from one Portia Williams. I What color are they?

I got silver, so like a light gray kind of vibe. I'm replacing. To match the Atlanta reunion. Oh my gosh. Well, so I was already in the market for new sheets because I just wanted, I, whatever, I wanted new sheets. And then I saw that Porsche posted about her pampered by Porsche collection on Instagram. I was like, hmm, I do need sheets.

And so I went to the website. I was okay with the price. It was like around what I wanted to spend. And I was like, why not? I'll support my girl. Does it come with anything? Like pillowcases or like just a sheet? No, it's like the like two pillowcases, a fitted sheet and a flat sheet.

Oh, nice. So a nice little set. Nice set. Yeah. I have started to buy so much stuff that I have made a note in my phone because like, knowing me, I will buy stuff and absolutely I don't track things I really just forget about it so it's to the point where I need to write down what in case I don't get something it's bad yeah I mean shipping is so messed up right now that I'm most that I mostly just order things and then forget about them because it's not

tell me about it as the runner of shop betches I am dealing with that and I'm sorry to all my customers I love you dearly but we're going through you know the world's going through a rough time right now. Yeah, what's important is that the stuff you're selling is like really great and like really the quality and like so creative for this time. And like if you have to wait a few extra days, should have. Right. Like no one's going anywhere. It's not like you need this for vacation. I mean, I'm not one to, listen, I'm not telling you when you need or what you need, but like I'm telling you you're not in a rush right now. I know. All my bags are just like, sitting in the corner unused.

Like I, it's just so depressing. I put away all my tote bags. It's like there's just no I know. Want to hear something really like really funny and then we can move on from our online orders. So I do Ipsy

ipsy bag like once a month. Just it's like super fine like and it's cheap, whatever. I don't need it. I've canceled it in the past but then I was like oh I miss it, whatever. So I did it and I've been doing it for really long time and I didn't get the April one and I wrote them a really night I was like wait a second I didn't get this so I wrote them a really nice email because I I know what they're

going through but I was like I didn't get it like I and it said deliver it was very weird and they sent me a new one which is so nice but then I got oh my god I'm I'm really just had a thought while telling my own story what if I got you in the mail but what if it's May that I received already not both April I'll never know, but I love Ipsi, sorry. Okay. So my very puzzles through the mystery of the double Ipsy bag. Let's dive into this week's Fander Pump Rules.

It was, okay, I personally thought it was probably the best episode of the season. So good. So good. I love when I get a chuckle out of the episode. So we see basically a continuation of last week, full Jack's rage losing his mind it's not pretty it's not good whatever's happening with Jack it's actually sad it's borderline sad because there's something wrong

sad and a little scary because he says both to Brittany and then at the end of the episode to Stasi he says that he's afraid he's going to take out his anger on Britney and that he's scared he's going to hurt Britney and I think he means like with his words I think he means with his words but still. I would just, if I were Stasi in that moment

having that conversation, I would not take that lightly if he said that to me. Right. But my favorite part of ourselves. Yeah, I was like, wait, no, that was like the last scene. By the way, though, Stasi was being an excellent friend by doing what she did, what I think. But first, this episode,

the pool parties that we have been waiting for. I love when there's always like a benchmark in each season of everything, like what we wait for. And so far we all ready, I forgot about their wedding by now, but these pool parties. So, Jacks and Brittany were throwing a pool party on Friday. And then after his rage text last week, uninvited, reinvited, uninvited, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So Tom and Ariana decided to have their own pool party, which Lisa Vanderpump even told them was a little, you know, mean. They shouldn't have done that. But I kind of agree.

kind of don't, I don't know really where I stand with how I feel with them making theirs on the same day and time. Do I think that it was petty? Yes. Of course it was petty. They could have a pool party any day of the year. But also, I kind of loved it and I think it showed that we're nearing the end of the season and Jacks has really pissed off enough people that he's not, I don't think you can make any argument that he is the number one guy in the group right now. And the fact, okay, so I, when they, when we first got to the pool parties, I started making a list in my notes of who was going to go to each pool party because I was like, oh, this should be interesting to see who chooses where.

You were making guess. Right. And I was like, okay, I just want to, I just want to be, like, keep it straight in my mind. But then I realized that everyone went to Tom Sandibals' pool party. Yeah. It actually looked really fun. Oh, that pool party looked so fun. They were twerking in the backyard.

James Kennedy was DJing. Everybody was taking shots. And they called and invited James. It looked like, that's when you know. And then you cut to Jackson's pool party, which has a ridiculous blow-up slide next to the pool. There's like catering and bartenders. And he tells the bartenders that there are only going to be eight people at the party and we do see, the only people that we see there are Lala, Brett, Stasi, and Bo.

And that is just, that is a weak display when you consider how many people are on the show. Well, everyone else went to, everyone else went to Tom and Ariana's pool party. But before the pool parties even happen, when Brittany comes barging into the house and to talk about the pool parties, I just thought that scene was so funny because she came into the house and was like, Jacks, I have to tell you something. And she let him know about Tom's pool party. And they, the fact that there is an argument about a pool party is just so ridiculous and because of we're older now.

And that's funny, you brought up the slide because Brittany said, and we even had this, this amazing blow-up slide that's going to be at our party. And she kept taking shots while she was like telling this to Jacks. and Jax was going now three days into the gym, which is fine. It's great that he's got his anger out. But it's just they're both like spiraling. And I'm like, what is happening here? It's so crazy.

And I kind of have to give it to production for incorporating Jax's like snap stories in this episode. I don't think that it's great that Jax is going to the gym three times a day to take his anger out because that is indicative of a much larger problem. No, he's a lot of things. going through. I don't, I think he's a dumb ass, but. First of all, it's not healthy to work out intensely three times a day. Second of all, that man is on drugs, allegedly. And we know he's on Adderall. He's on Adderall. And if there's something else, he's on Adderall. Well, okay, we know he takes Adderall. And, you know, maybe he's on something else. Maybe he's not. but, you know, it wouldn't shock me.

And it's just the fact that he is doing that as like a way to get away from his life. It's like, dude, you've got to deal with some of your problems. You can't just like abandon your life and spend the whole day at the gym. And he looks insane. In those Instagram stories when he's like, yeah, guys, come on, come on, come on, like, we're going to go to the gym. And those instructors, they're so, they're, the boys are like girls. Like, ah. Well, I was also laughing out loud once.

And he said, oh, Sanofal, he's such, he's such a woman. And then he was like, well, sorry, no offense to women. I like to laugh. And then when he went back to talk about the trainers, he was like, oh, those men trainers must have heard what I said about women because they really didn't say. I was like, who are you like talking to about this? This is so, it's, there's so much. And then he's giving marriage updates.

He's showing he's wearing his ring. Like that, no one was questioning that at all. At this point, honestly, Jacks is not really fun for me to watch. The only time I get joy out of seeing Jacks on my TV is like when his credit card gets declined. Oh, no, he's definitely fun to watch. But it's like affecting me and everyone else.

It's weird. It's a little bit dark for me at this point. I need there to be some revelations happening because it feels like we're approaching a breakdown point. Right. But the fact that he called and invited James to his pool party and James had a James declined on invite because he already was DJing at Tom and Arianna's party was like that was like the highlight for me.

That was great. Sober James is really working his way back into the group. We saw this week he had another nice moment with Katie after he apologized at the softball game. And I think there's some soft sides now all of a sudden. I think James has looked great the last few weeks And I think they're kind of laying the groundwork for him To actually be a real part of the cast again next season after Because this season it's been a little weird

We haven't seen that much of him And his scenes have been very kind of isolated from the rest of the group But at this point he's just as much a part of the group as Jacks Yeah You know and so I think that was nice to see And we also finally this week I thought got some actual entertaining drama out of the love triangle with Dana, Brett, and Max. After Dana's comedy show, we saw them go out together along with Stasi and Bo and Sheena showed up and Lala was there.

And we saw them kind of get into it a little more. And I think this is, it's frustrating because it's taken essentially the entire season to get here. But finally, I'm like, okay, this is like the level of drama that you. should be bringing to the show. Yeah, I thought it was great that at Dana's comedy show, Max came and then Brett came and Stasi nonchalantly goes, oh, that's so cute of you guys to both show up for your girlfriend. That was like the line of the episode because they're both fighting.

And now I feel like Max is like shit. I really fucked up. Like, I like this girl. And Dana's like not backing down right now. But I obviously know that in real life what's going on, but we'll just have to wait and see. Girl, winter is so last season. And now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs.

You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. That perfect hang on the patio sundress. Those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope, it's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross.

Work your magic. I really want to know which producer told Stasi and Katie that they needed to care about the new people all of a sudden because this whole season, I don't think we've seen Stasi really interact with the new people, except for maybe Max, a single time. And then all of a sudden in the last two episodes,

we saw her at Brett's at the beach cleanup with Dana being like, so I hear there's a love triangle. And then again, this week we see her at Dana's comedy show and then invested in this boy drama. And it's like, you didn't care about this girl three weeks ago on the show. Honestly, yeah, she's just over Kristen, obviously. And I don't know what about Katie, but I think maybe she's like into Dana. Dana's like a cool girl.

So maybe she wants to be friends with her, like on her own, because she's like, I'm done with these bitches. I think she's into Dana on behalf of what the producers want. I don't know. I don't know. As we've seen this week with some Sheena drama, the producers and the editors have no qualms about, you know, getting in there and messing with things. Yeah. Did you see on Stasi's Insta story yesterday, the snake that was at their house?

It was like a five-foot snake In their house Like outside their house And she was like guys I just stepped on this I literally don't know what to do And they had to get someone to like And it was actually very beautiful But I hate snakes

But it was yeah And all these people post in L.A Like these snakes and spiders and scorpions I'm like I don't I'm good with like The pigeons in New York Yeah like you'll see like You know there might be like a rat on the sidewalk Or something

But like it's not to that level where there are just bugs everywhere. Yeah. So one thing I want to mention that I do feel was a little glossed over in the episode, Kristen shows up to Tom and Ariana's pool party with Carter. And nobody really makes a big deal out of it. And then we hear Kristen say that she and Carter are dating, which is definitely a development from the last time we heard her talk about it

when it was like, oh, yeah, we're not together, but like we did home stocks recently. So honestly like let Kristen live. I don't even care anymore. Like let her just like have sex and hook up with anyone. Like I feel like now they're all judging because they're all in relationships. But they've all been there. And it's just annoying because she's like not not engaged yet, whatever. But so like she's still, Sheena's still doing the same thing.

Well, they give Sheena shit too. But I get it. Like they don't like Carter, but like what, you know, let she'll figure it out. I was glad they didn't make things. that big of a deal out of it this week because it's not that big of a deal, you know. Right. Everybody knows Carter in the group. And so her showing up to the pool party with him, they're not getting engaged.

They're not living together. It's just whatever. They're hanging out. They're living their life. Kristen's doing her best. She is. She looks like she's having a great time. She showed up.

I loved her. Like, look. She was very, like, casual at the pool party. But I want to be invited to the next pool party. I don't really care who it is. I'll go to either one. I know. That would be,

what a fun time. And no whole furniture saga. Next week is, next week we have the season finale, and it's going to be the Tom Tom anniversary party and the reckoning of Jacks. I don't know where we can go from here, but it's going to be interesting.

Yeah, but show. Getting that for show. So let's talk about Beverly Hills because this was a pretty crazy episode. I cannot get enough of this season. I'm just every episode I'm looking forward to. I'm enjoying them. I'm having lots of thoughts and feelings. And this has not happened for me with Beverly Hills in a few years.

And so I'm really just savoring every moment of it. Yeah. Okay. So I love Kyle. loved Kyle. I just have a thing for her on the show. And everything I say, it's always like I'm in a relationship with these people, but I'm not. So she, I don't know, she's really not having a good look this season. Like I have so many of my friends are texting me while they're watching too. And they're like, what is her issue? And I was like, as her spokesperson, I really don't know.

But she seems to like have an issue. She almost like you're reminding me of Jacks. Like, what's the issue what what is happening but we leave off on this episode at denises um or we pick up on this episode at denise's party where Kyle is just continuously crying but what we remember last the end of last episode is she started this so it was very bizarre um she got very upset and left and then everyone else got back she didn't say goodbye she didn't say thank you but then those are the things in the show that i don't i wonder if production cut out because like in my head i was like wow, she didn't say goodbye and she just got up and left. But like, what if she did say goodbye?

And they just didn't show that part of the episode. But I always think these fights are so awkward for the husbands because, like, they're like, okay, that's my cue, got to go. And it's so weird because they are not fighting. So I always feel a little uncomfortable for them. Also, what are those trailers at Denise's house? Yeah. Bathrooms outside?

Very unclear. Denise's whole house situation is a little odd to me. They're renting this home in Malibu. I'm sure it's very nice. I don't really know. Yeah, the party of Denise's was a little, it was weird to me because I feel like all the drama happened last week. And then this week it was just Kyle cries and then she leaves.

And it was kind of like, wait, what happened? I forgot. Yeah, I don't know. She claimed she was attacked. And the table was under no sort of. circumstances attacking her from a viewer's perspective. I think that throughout the last couple episodes, we've seen Kyle kind of be confronted with the reality that she's not just

automatically the HBIC now that Lisa's gone. And I think she probably, she probably felt like that was kind of her birthright of Beverly Hills that, you know, she's the last OG. Now she's the queen. She's going to hold the center Diamond and it's going to be her show. And while I love Kyle and I think Kyle is still a very important part of the show, it makes me happy that everyone else is really stepping up and making her kind of work for it because nobody should. And I think we've seen with with Vicky getting demoted and, you know, other OGs kind of finding that their places aren't so secure. I think we

we're seeing people have to kind of fight for their spots a little more, and that is what leads to compelling stuff on the show. Right. And so I'm glad that pressure is being applied to Kyle, because she should. She should have to, you know, work for it. Yeah. We have a scene where it's Delilah Bell and Amelia Gray are starting a clothing line called DNA, very cute, and they're at this photo shoot and we saw Delilah Bell wearing this lime green fabric face mask and it was so so jarring to me because they said in the scene that Delilah was sick and she didn't want to get Lisa sick and whatever so it's not confusing why she was wearing a mask but it's so weird seeing something that was filmed seven months ago and now this is our reality that it's like yeah we're all wearing

masks it just it's so funny to me Yeah, they're really cute, those two girls. I loved how Lisa is said, was honest and was like, would these two have a clothing line if Harry and I weren't their parents? No. Because it's true. I did appreciate that. You know, I...

Yeah, I like that she said that, but that doesn't go without saying that they work hard for what they're doing. But did they have an easier in? Yes. Well, yeah, I mean, it was similar to last week when Lisa made the... joke about Lori Lofin and said, you know, good that you're getting your test scores because I'm not going to, you know, do this. And I think Lisa, for as over the top and loud and crazy as she can be, I think she actually does really have good parenting instincts and she doesn't want her girls to kind of be super out of touch with reality, which I appreciate because

that is a crazy family. Yeah. I feel like so much happened this episode. But, but it was everything happened at like different dinners. So then after they go to this event, they went to Erica's Clubhouse, which I've been waiting for another invite. I'm going to make a list of places I want to be invited to on the Unbrabbo shows. They went to Erica's Clubhouse, and I want to go there so bad. And Lois was there.

Lisa Rinna's mom, her 91-year-old beautiful mother. What? Before we get to that night, we have got to talk about Doreet's new business venture. Right. So we find out on this episode. Doreet is now an investor in the Encino, L.A. location of Bucca De Beppo.

And I love this. It's so funny how everyone keeps calling her out on it about, they're like, are you sure? Like, why are people hesitant to go into business with you? Because of your financial worries? Like, are people aware of it? Do they want to go into business with you? I just feel like I could not have written a better plot line than Dorit Kemsley being in partnership with Bucca de Beppo. And not only is it Bucca de Beppo, it's not Bucca de Beppo corporate.

It is one location of Bucca, and she is designing a banquet room for them, and it's going to be Capri-themed. And Doree has said that we will see it throughout the season, and that we will also see. the final reveal of her newly designed Capri room at the Encino location of Bucca d'Abeppo. So why do you think this is like the craziest thing, though? Because, okay, so it's not the craziest thing in the real world because the owner of Bucca de Beppo is Dorete's son's godfather. I looked this up. So she also said, she said that. It's a family connection, whatever. But it's just so, the idea of Bucca de Beppo as a rest of is so off-brand for Doreet.

She's walking around in her full Versace look and, you know, her hair done to the nines. She's essentially at like an upscale version of the Olive Garden deciding a room for them. I mean, yeah. But can we talk about as long as you're talking about Doree's glance? I can't. The ponytail was like a few inches too long.

Like it was just a little, too long. Like when she walked in, you could see it between her legs. Like, you can see it. It was 80 inches long. Too long. It was one thing when she was, it was one thing when she was standing

up, but, and it was like, you know, going all the way down. But when she sat down on the couch and the ponytail was just sitting on the floor, on the floor. But also, Kyle, like, pulled it a little and this is the second episode where Kyle, I think, didn't understand Dorete's hair. Remember last week she went to move the curl on her face?

And I was like, Kyle, it's a look. Like, even to realize I was like, don't pull it, don't pull it. Like, what's going on? Just don't touch anyone's hair that she's paying for. So moving through this night, so we have the DNA clothing line launch party, which was a weird event to begin with. Yeah, they were there for like five minutes. So when they're walking in, we see Sutton looking uncomfortable and she says something to Dari about, oh, I think I, I think the makeup guy is here. And it was very confusing.

Well, she said, I'm going to flip out. Her words were I'm going to flip out. And that's what sparked like the whole. Right. So it was very, it was very weird. We didn't know what was happening. And then she later explains that she had gone into partnership on a beauty app with this guy, Joey Maloof. And then. things, they had had a falling out, so they're not friends anymore. The business is a separate thing. And so Lisa works with Joey. And so Sutton was stressed out because she thought Joey was going to be at this party. And he wasn't there. So it didn't end up actually being an issue.

But then they get to dinner after the party and Sutton brings it up and basically is saying to Lisa, hey, I just wanted to let you know, like this is why I was acting weird because I was scared he was going to be there, whatever. and then it becomes this huge thing between Doreet and Sutton all of a sudden. It was weird because Doreet was fixated on the fact that Sutton said I'm going to flip out and Doree got like scared and I was even I'm usually this season on Dorete's side but I'm like Doree what did you think Sutton was going to do of all people? She's not literally going to flip out she was uncomfortable and we've already seen Sutton uncomfortable in social situations so all she was doing was expressing like why and

she, by the way, like, set it slow, like, low and whispered it to Dorita as they got out the car. Was it like, she was like, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, I'm going to freak out. Like, that's actually not what happened. So it was very, like, Drit was like when someone says they're going to flip out. Like, I don't know what that means. I'm like, come on, Doree. Like, look, look at your audience.

Sutton was telling Doret something because she was stressed out. She wasn't causing a scene. And to act like she was is crazy. And then Sutton obviously gets very upset. And we get to the point where she is telling Doreet to drop it. And she goes, Doreet, let the mouse go. Let it go. Let the mouse go.

Doree, no, let the mouse go. And I don't know where she came up with this mouse analogy, but I laughed a lot. There was some major shade on Instagram last night, too. Like after the episode in Doreet's post, she did it. And her caption was like letting the mouse go. And I was like, can someone tell me what this means? Who is the mouse? Like, why don't we know what this means?

We usually know what everything means. And I'm really, like, at a loss. Like, why did Doreet and Sutton have, like, an inside joke that, like, which isn't a joke, but, like, that we don't know about? I'm, like, very upset about it. But also, this dinner, why was glam? Other than Sutton's little outburst, why was glam, like, the main subject of this dinner? Who cares? that Doreet showed up in glam.

It, like, who cares? It's so weird that Kyle keeps bringing this up. And also, it's funny that Doreet said, Kyle, like, your little friend, Teddy, didn't show up in glam, and now she has glam. Like, the glam thing is so weird. I think it's more highlighted because we're in Beverly Hills. Like, this is not something that we talk about

on any of the other franchises, but this is like a who's who. And it's weird. Like, let them come to glam. Like, I just can't round my head around that. I really can't. Immediately after they Sutton and Teddy

or Sutton and Durit have their moment and then they say okay like let's change the subject like this is uncomfortable and instead of changing the subject to something less uncomfortable they changed the subject to Kyle calling them all fake ass bitches. I can't like I love when any of them say the term fake ass bitches it's so like weird. So Derreet is obviously not over the issue with Kyle

from Teddy's retreat, but then we also see Denise really getting into it with Kyle. And the thing that's clear to me at this point is that Denise doesn't really like any of these women, with the exception of maybe Garcel, because I don't think she's really gotten involved in anything yet. But Denise seems kind of resentful of the fact that she's in this group. And I'm enjoying it because I think she's bringing exciting drama to the show, but I'm a little confused why she wants to be there. Because she's saying... Well, because she's fucking

Denise Richards. She says, I'm fucking Denise Richards, Kyle. And she talks about how she is an actress and she's on set every day and she has been on every magazine cover that these girls could want to be on. And while that all is true,

they are now all starring on the same TV show. And so I really am enjoying the Denise drama, but I also think that you don't really get to be on a high horse if you have also signed a Real Housewives contract and are now participating in the show.

Right, but I mean, she, no, I think Denise, like, I get that right now, but she had a much bigger career than some of them did, but then more drama last night than from that, Lisa Rina posted her two Playboy covers that she has, which I loved. But, like, I loved that. but same time I also

you know the whole thing with her saying she doesn't want to talk about threesomes and she doesn't want to talk about sex and she doesn't want to do this and she doesn't want her kids to hear meanwhile her kids are teenagers they know what's going on

and also I don't want to like talk badly but anyone's parenting or family but like we all know who her kid's father is so like this is not like out of character for Denise's household or to talk about

any of this stuff. but I think she wanted to be portrayed as someone different while hosting a party at her house, if that makes sense. I agree that I think Denise is frustrated with, I think last season she really got off pretty easy in terms of showing what she wanted to show and portraying herself how she wanted to be portrayed. And this season, I think we're getting a lot more of a kind of grittier look at what Denise is actually like. And that it's, I mean, there are still great sides.

of her obviously. I'm not like anti-Denis, but that we're getting a lot more of a well-rounded portrayal and some of that is unflattering and she really didn't have to do it with that last season because it was very like oh like I love my new husband and he's got a big dick

and I have the daughters and oh Charlie's crazy but we never really saw her truly have to like fight for something last season. Her resting bitch face is amazing. Her look like Like when she shuff something down, like she has that look.

I'm like, oh, honey, I love that. Okay. We should probably wrap it up. So Barry, tell me who your number one Bravo Lab in the group is. I feel like it's a big, there's a lot to choose from. Right. But my number one Bravo Lab, because she's making a small crawl until we get to see her a lot, is Garcel. I've said it once, I've said before.

I want her to actually like fucking do something. Like I know it's coming and I can't wait, but like we were joking about the other night. I fucking love when she was setting up for her kid's birthday party. And she was like, I don't do these Beverly Hills parties. Like I do cookies and donuts and soda and whatever the hell they want. And I'm like, yes, Garcel.

I love it. So I'm waiting for my Garcel moment. So I'm giving her mind. Okay. Who's yours? I think I am going to go with Denise. And I know I was a little harsh on Denise a few minutes ago, but I think that she, I love the way she's holding Kyle accountable. And I think she is bringing a lot of excitement to

this season. And even if I don't always agree with everything she says, we are reaping the benefits of her being on the show right now. And we will definitely see a lot more of Denise this season. Yes. We are just waiting for it. Guys, thank you so much for listening. We We will be back tomorrow, and our episode tomorrow has an exciting interview with Leah McSweeney. So make sure to check that out. And don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, and join our Facebook group. Betches.