Mention It All - Can Guerdy Abraira Reconcile With Julia Lemigova on RHOM? Ft. Guerdy Abraira

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

On this week’s video episode, Dylan is joined in the studio by Bravo’s party planning powerhouse, Guerdy Abraira, and she breaks down all the drama on this season of RHOM. She opens up about stepping into her “Guerdy 2.0” era, navigating messy friendships, and how her cancer journey changed her perspective on life. From the fallout with Julia to where she stands today, Guerdy gives us some insight on the real sequence of events from the cruise to text message reveal. Plus, she teases her new book, “ From Trauma to Trophies” and reflects on her past while looking ahead to the future. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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everyone welcome back to the mention it all podcast i am so glad to be joined today by somebody who's been here a few times now she's been around the block as a housewife of course as an event planner now an author lots of stuff going on with our guest today gertie a brerra hello hello there welcome back it's always so good to see you i'm so happy to be here it's like full circle it's been a it's been a while yeah Right. It's your fourth season on the show. It's been like five-ish, four-ish years since you joined. Yeah.

What is it like now coming back for another season? Obviously, you've been in this Housewives game for a while, but you've been through a lot in your life in the last couple years. How did season seven kind of come around for you? Did you handle anything differently? Did you approach it differently? A hundred percent. You know, this season, you see a different version of, you know, different version of, you know, me. And it's, I call her Gertie 2.0. I had to name it because I'm like, you know what,

I need to now identify as that bitch. Okay. And what happens is, you know, when you go through tough times in your life, you start reevaluating yourself and the people around you. And this season, I came in with the motion of Gertie's going to get her groove back and I'm going to have my girls behind me, hyping me up. We're going to have a good season. And I think you see from episode one, which I'm watching live with the audience behind my back of what was said, what was the attitude of them receiving me towards to, you know, back to the group. And that was the most hurtful thing, of course. And so I've learned a lot. And I've learned a lot.

Yes. Yeah. It's, I mean, I've talked with lots of people who have been on Housewives and other shows about kind of that experience. of watching the show back and obviously reliving what you were there for, but then also seeing stuff that you weren't there for. And I mean, this Miami group, there's a lot of talkers, a lot of chatter. Absolutely. But this season is weird, I feel like.

I'm going to call it weird. Just because, you know, the behavior of some of the group is very similar. The talking points are similar. And there's just a slant on truth that people are believing for what purpose and motivation. I don't know, but I had to only take care of me. And so you see me now walking the talk of the talk that I talk because last year you saw me just beating cancer and just being like, I'm going to be this new person. I'm releasing what no longer serves me. And now I'm walking that talk.

I am doing it. And it's hard because it's not the old gertie. And maybe it makes people uncomfortable because now there are guard rails and boundaries. And they may not like it because they used to be able to play in my face before. Now I'm slapping their hand on the wrist and saying, not today, Satan, thou shalt not past. And that's the way it's going to be from now on. And that's that.

Yeah. Get used to it. I mean, last season, it was just so impactful to watch you going through that journey with cancer and everything. Really in real time, some of those scenes were so raw and so, you know, emotional. And so this season, it's refreshing to see you obviously in a better place with your health. Yeah. You're, you know, with your family and, you know, just.

your life and you're so vivacious and everything, but then knowing that that maybe isn't reflected in some of your, the relationships on the show. It's, it's a double-edged sword. It's just, you know, if we're going to play the game of truth and dare, let's stick to the truth. And that's all I'm asking for. Because at the core of it, you may feel a certain way about me. You may do whatever, but one thing I am not is a liar. And when, you know, someone wants to slander that character of mine and the basis of their argument or their cause is all based on

a lie that's easily able to, I'm easily able to prove by just going, but that's not what you said. That's not what happened. And they are so emboldened to think because I have a count of four backing me up, I'm going to be able to perpetrate these lies. It doesn't work

that way. It doesn't work that way. And the fact that the anger and the level of it that came my way at that wedding party from Marisol was just astonishing to see like you the whole thing's based on a lie and then you come at me victimizing yourself as if I am the one that that is at fault by trying to be there for you on this cruise it's really hurtful and it's sad and I'm just kind of like we're not going to play this game we I don't want to take it to the Lululand I don't want it I want to stay here on earth where

the truth lies I'm curious for you so you guys had a bit of a longer break between season six and season seven the filming and I'm wondering for you in that time, the off season, were there things happening or not happening where you kind of sensed some of the winds of change for this season? Are you ready for an exclusive? Give it to me.

Sequence matter. This cruise that we went on and listened very carefully happened before season six reunion. If you watch the season six reunion, Julia is a ride or die. Larsa, are you wrong? That's not what happened. and she's my friend.

She's my friend. We even go to dinner after the reunion. We then have that hiatus where we're texting each other having no problem, no issues, nothing. So while I'm thinking I have a friend over this period, this person has been behind my back doing all of the work and going on like a Taylor Swift tour, you know, the slender tour, I don't know, until the camera picks up and I'm baffled at what comes to me on camera. So that's where we are. Season 6 reunion, before season 6 reunion is when this cruise happened, never had an argument about it. Nothing was just a text about a misunderstanding of what happened on the cruise.

It was like, oh, my bad. I'm sorry. Okay, no problem. I'm good. Right. A year passes and here we are. Well, I think that's the complicated thing. I mean, even if you weren't on a TV show together, when you have a friend and you have

a misunderstanding or a disagreement and then you feel like you've addressed it and moved past it, you don't want to have to think in the back of your. head like, oh, a year from now, if something comes up again, is this going to be used against me? And I think that's something with a group of this size and with all the different personalities, it's hard to feel like you have a lot of those like real genuine friends that you can count on. So if you have somebody that you would put in that category and then they kind of don't live up to that. The most interesting thing about it is that over the hiatus as well, myself and Alexia go to lunch.

And, you know, she's just celebrating me after the reunion. We have this amazing lunch, just her and I bonding. We texted me, her, Kiki, Marisol, go on a chat because at the reunion, even Alexia had my back. And so I'm thinking, next season is going to be, oh, honey, we're going to put it down. Miami is we're going to be, you know, on fire because we're going to show this friendship that we're building over the hiatus. So texting, texting, hey girls, when we're going to go to lunch, dinner, da, da, da, da, and then comes the season seven and all of this happens. And I think that, you know, their opinions were swayed by the lie. And that's where I'm kind of like, guys, this is not true.

But no one wants to listen. And thus, what you see me do at my party is not only me celebrating life and my testimony of what I've gone through after cancer, but then it's also my controlled narrative where I'm finally able to speak my truth, my way. And so that's where I am. You know, I mean, I had to, if not then when. It's my party and I can do what I want to, no? I'm curious. So when you came on the show, obviously it was this new era for Miami.

You came in with Julia and with Nicole and Kiki also. That cast stayed the same for three years. And then Nicole left for this season. You guys had a lot of great times together. She makes a cameo very soon, honey. What was it like for you, though, knowing that she wasn't going to be in the group this season and kind of somebody that was that you had on your side for a lot of tough things.

And by that point you have to understand after season six reunion, I didn't even see it like, oh, I'm going to miss Nicole because she's not going to have my back. It wasn't even like that because I started in my mind building these friendships organically with Alexia and Marisol and so it was the shift, the dynamic was shifting. And so I of course wanted Nicole to stay, but I understood why she had to go and take care of her own stuff. And I was comfortable with the new dynamic because I'm like, we're going to have a good time.

Right. We're going to have a good time. Right. So you're like, I'm going to miss my friend, but I wasn't thinking I had no friends. Yes. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's so complicated when you think about all the different layers and dynamics and things. And even the seeing Lisa and Larsa have their issues this season, both people that you have had some, some ups and down.

with, let's say. And then you still have that instinct at Alexia's party where you're like, you just want them to have a conversation, have a chat. I don't know, honey. He's called gilded, guided conversations by Gertie or mediator, queen, whatever you want. Now, I fail bigly, but if the intention that matters. And that's who I am at the core. I've party planned for 20 plus years.

And I come with good intentions. I want happiness. And that's to a fault. my my issues because I'm trying to people please come on guys you can do it and that was a big failure but it was funny after watching you back I'm like what the hell am I doing in this conversation don't let him win yeah say sorry Larsa nope what the hell was that doing there nobody knows it was so funny because it was happening after this narcissism event party whatever you want to call it had already kind of gone off the deep end exploded into pieces and here I am I'm like

Hercules, Hercules, come on guys, we can do this. I should have given up on that big time, yeah, but I don't know what happened. But, you know, like, I guess in my way was kind of like, I wish someone would have stuck up for me at that horrific event that happened at the wedding party for Marisol where no one did anything. And everyone just kind of like, okay, let's get the cake now. I was, I guess it was a reaction to that. And subconsciously, I'm like, this is what I should, I would have done. You know, I would have said, hey, guys, make up. What's going on?

You try to fix it, you know? Right. Or stop it. Right. And I think like, and you, I mean, in the past, like when Lisa was going through everything with Lenny and you were trying to kind of coach her through that a little bit and maybe that wasn't received exactly, the Lisa Lane kind of vibe. Yeah, there was a lot of chefs in the kitchen.

And, you know, my voice hasn't been heard in the group for a very long time. Right. And now I think that people are not comfortable now that I'm speaking up. And it's kind of like, oh, my God, it's all about you. I don't know about that. You know, not inviting me to a party that you have for your friend. And saying is because I'm going to make it about me, but then you end up making it about you

at your friend's birthday party, Alexia. You know, it's kind of like, it's a double standard. And it's like, those are talking points that was told to her by someone who had a vendetta against me, which was Julia. And it was sad that Alexia took the bait because we were doing great prior to. Yeah. So that was very hurtful to see that. And I'm seeing it live with the audience of what was said behind my back and how people

behave behind my back. And so I'm like, wow. Okay, noted. Yeah. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, Frame, and Free People. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more.

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that I was thinking of was when you had, you know, at Marisol's wedding party, obviously an extremely intense, you know, moment with you and Julia. That was so early into the season. And so I'm wondering for you being so upset by that and, you know, that was just a hard thing to, to be on the receiving end of. How did you kind of reset and say, okay, we have a lot of season left to go? I'm going to be around Julia. I'm going to be around everyone. how do you kind of say here's what we're going to do for the rest of the time? This was a me

game. I had to say to myself, you did nothing wrong. You know where the truth lies and you're going to have to just rally your ass back up and it took me two weeks to film again to see her at the scene that we have this dinner where she makes a promise

proactively. I'm going to never talk about our situation to the group again and then you see her at the goddess narcissist party What if somebody, you know, so it took me two weeks to get back on my feet from that horrific event that happened at the wedding party. And I just said to myself, you came with the intent of just being positive and getting your group back. We're going to stick to that intent because that's all, I have no ill will. You never see me practically looking for beef with people.

I'm just reactive to when you bring stuff to my plate. So I was like, we're going to just stick to being a good person, kill them with kindness, keep moving. So even at the dinner with her and I, Julia, I'm apologizing for something that I didn't do, but I'm like, if I was out of pocket and I was on the hinge of my clad back, yeah, I don't want to be that. I don't want to do that, of course, but I never got an apology for the lies. I got an apology for water being tossed in my face.

The only apology that she gave me now that I look back at it, I'm like, wait, she never even apologized. Yeah. So it's an interesting play. It's not fair, but I got to keep it moving. I got to keep it moving. And I got to do me. So you see me literally lifting my spirits.

coming in with good intention, still smiling and with grace, because I'm like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to go down like that. Well, I think also just thinking about like the, the arc of the season and of your relationships in the group, it's like you don't want to have six months or 15 episodes or whatever it is of just having the same fight over and over again. Or you feeling like your whole season is going to just be now washed away because you're always focused. But I don't look at it like, what's good for the show? what's good for me. And maybe that's the way that different stroke for different, I don't lead with,

well, the shows on six, how many longer? I don't consider it my job when I committed to tell you my unscripted life. So I'm coming in. I think I've been pretty good at it to be really raw

and maybe it's uncomfortable for some viewers like, oh, I don't want to hear about this cancer thing. But it is life. And we've got to stop the stigma of like not wanting to hear the C word. One in eight women is going to have cancer

or dealing with cancer. We can have to deal with it. So that's my life, that's my testimony, and I'm going to live it. And so for me, it's kind of like, I would do this. Whatever I did on the show, I would do it in real life. And I'm living it the real way on screen for people to see and judge me if they want to. Yeah. Yeah.

I was really curious going into the season to see kind of where you and Larsa went because last year it was a lot. Now that one I had a strategy for. I was prepared on that one. Larsa was here a few weeks ago. Oh, God. And I was like. Like, oh, you know, you took a lot of heat last season for the way you handled this cancer diagnosis. And she said, you know, this is like three weeks ago still, that you dragged her for a whole year for trying to do something nice.

Yeah. I mean, I got dragged a whole year for me trying to do something nice for her. And I just was like, we're still in that place. That's where she's at. And that's where she'll, I guess, remain for the rest of her days. That's sad. And it's, I hope that I hope you well. I think that keeps her up at night.

I don't know what to tell you, but let me tell you something. What was the nice gesture that she was trying to do? She was trying to do something nice. And that was, that was. Look. No, no, no. Because I heard something about a spa and Mama ain't never been to no spa with Larsa, honey. But we're going to keep that same energy.

Okay, thank you for the good, happy thoughts. You know what my strategy is with Larsa? Larsa is a good time. You know, when she's up and we're, you know, having a good time. So I said to myself, you know, we're going to close the. door to any deep conversations and we're going to move over to just good time. So my, my good time girl, when I see her, hey, girl, hey, okay now. Yep. And we keep it moving. And that's, that's fine. And we work really well doing that. So we're fine. I think that's, I think that's

healthy in a, in an environment like this where you realistically are not going to have a deep relationship with everyone. And you've known these women now for several years. And so, yeah, you kind of start to think it's like, okay, I've spent a lot of time. on this person. We've gone on trips together. We've done, you know, interviews and reunions and all of that. And like, if we were going to have a close bond, don't you think that would have happened in the last five years?

Exactly. So you live and you learn and that's that. So there's no, I can't retain stress. My new way of life is releasing it. And it may not many people may like it and it may make people uncomfortable. But that's what we're going to be doing. We're releasing the stress. If something bothers me and I can't sleep at night, release.

least out to the world and that's on my terms and we move on. I can sleep very good at night. I can sleep very well. So I'm curious then when someone new comes into the group, we have our first new housewife in a long time on Miami this season, Stephanie. What is it like for you kind of, you know, getting to know someone new, evaluating whether it's somebody you want to kind of let in like that? What was that like?

Well, Stephanie came in hot and that's, that was a good thing for the group. He created a little spice and added spice that I think. think we need it. And because, you know, she's going to call spade a spade. And that's where some people may like it and some people may not like to be called out on what it is. And so what you just saw, for example, the last episode at my party celebration of life, she was like, well, I want to read this text. I want to hear what happened. And there's nothing wrong to get, want to get to the bottom of the truth so that you can realize what the game plan was prior to. So she wanted to go back and listen to my side

and or read the text to make it all out for herself. And then there's the other half of the group, which happened to be the same people at the wedding party. Clock it. Who all walked out in unison, like he was the conga line doing the cha-cha out the door. And they were mad at her for wanting to seek out the truth and wanting to go back in to hear my side.

I thought that was interesting. So I was like, oh. Yeah. Because to me, I always, I always appreciate when someone new joins a show and says, okay, like, maybe I had a friend before this or, you know, maybe I knew somebody coming in. Yeah.

But I still want to like, get to know everyone. Yeah. See what's happening. That was very smart. You know, do my research before I, you know, make any bold statements or whatever. Yes. And it sounds like for you this season that having that kind of like open mind joining the group is something that you kind of needed because maybe the people that you thought.

Here's what I'm going to teach. That party that I threw is at the core center of the trickle-down effect moving forward. A lot of stuff has to do with what happened at my party and the things around it and the narrative that some people are trying to create around it and or not. So mark my words, there's a lot to be seen where you see some people's intentions and they're hardcore. I'm not going to even read. I can't read today.

ABC hooked on phonics. They don't even want to read. Like, you can't read. You can't listen. I'm out of, I'm out of tricks. Okay. Well, yeah. We know from a couple years ago that not everybody scrolls to the bottom of the document when they're trying to find their receipts.

We got to start using our eyes and ears and our senses, guys. Okay. Hucked on phonics. Work for me. I picture Nicole slamming down the credit card on the table. So there's an example. Nicole's a stand-up woman. She's a nice girl, but you're nice until you're not.

and a group like this gets you to a point where it's like, wait, they're playing in my face. They don't see, they're not seeing the boundaries. And then you got to slap the wrist. And you're going to say, you don't get to do this. You don't get to tell my story for me. You don't get to redefine who I am and what I've done and try to make a version of yourself. Because what's the diversion about? Why are you doing this?

Where's the passion? What was the passion at your wedding party where no one did anything? But now you want to talk about my party and say, you shouldn't have done that at your party. Hmm. Interesting. It's like telling an artist at Or Basel, I love all your art pieces. But that piece right there, you shouldn't have done it. You shouldn't have done it. Come on.

Right, right, right. Yeah. And I think for you, I mean, it's like, aside from Steph, it's like you guys have all been on this platform for a while. So it's not at this point in Miami. She's seasoned already. She's like, boom, I've got this. Right. Like at this point in Miami, the kind of like who, the like, oh, geez versus newbies, it's like there aren't really like newbies.

It's not the. same as it was three years ago. Yeah, I mean, I just think that, you know, everybody should play their position. Sorry, I have to, it is the truth, okay? The minute you try to do things to play in your favor so that you get a moment to maybe get a different position, that's when it's kind of like, we got to, you know, let's just, let's just be friends. Let's just be real.

and stop manipulating anything around it. Just do you, I'm going to do me, don't come in my lane. Right. And try and sabotage me. If you're trying to, if you're trying to, you know, be in charge of every piece on the chessboard at some point you're going to get. Just everybody should just play their positions and we should just all play a natural role of friendships and nothing above and beyond.

You're doing too much, boo-boo. A lot of them are doing maybe a little too much. I do think when people are watching the show, though, they can kind of sense that sometimes. From episode one, it was very, people already knew, oh, after the wedding party, there was kind of like, no one did anything. That's not natural. What's going on?

So there's a lot of question. A lot of fans are questioning what's going on. I imagine for you, though, like it feels a little bit, maybe like a little bit gratifying that people might be watching the show and saying like, oh yeah, like it does seem like there's something going on or like Gertie is not getting kind of the, you know, space that she deserves. But you know what? I think that, you know, I made a conscious decision to shift it. So we don't sit in this rut.

I don't allow it because I know that I'm back up everything I did. I'm taking whatever, you know, accountability I've taken. Okay, I said something about your face lift after you threw the water at me. Okay, I'm sorry for that. Okay. I'm able to do that because I want to move on. I want to turn the page. So you'll see that things do turn around and we do become the fun Miami group that people know us has.

But, you know, there's some dark times And right now we are, we were in the dark time And now, you know, there's an attempt to go back to a dark time And I'm like, I'm not going to let it. No, let's celebrate life. No, look at the glass, you know, half full, not half empty. Stop, just stop, you know. I'm excited for fun, Miami.

It's coming in hot. That trip to Spain looks a little sexy. Honey. And then we get on a cruise again. Okay, sir, I was like this. I was like this. I didn't want to get out. I'm like, ooh, oop.

It's so funny now knowing the cruise backstory because I saw you, I don't know if you remember, I saw you at Fanfest in Miami. And y'all were leaving like directly from Fan Fest to get on this cruise ship. And you were kind of like, girl. I was like, oh boy, PTSD, back again. Yeah, but I still had fun on the cruise. I made it a point. I'm not, nope, no one's going to hold me back. I'm going to have this fun.

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By having the truth of my side. I don't come prepared. I don't, you know, only people with an agenda can come with their agenda. I'm just going to flick it away and be like, nah, not today. Satan, I can't. You know, like, I just got to keep it moving. I can't. I can't.

I just saw the other day somebody posted like a picture from one of those, the boats in Mexico city that you guys went on. Oh, yeah. Oh, the gondola ride. All the comments were like flooding. with like don't feed chicken to the dog or like don't go on the doll island my friend oh my gosh that is that that was crazy you could never see that again it was a once in a lifetime episode like it was just out of body experience watching it even and i was sick i was like you know crying with junior one second

consoling her and the next year i know i'm like the boat is shaking and i'm like yeah and then the dogs barking the mariachi honey it was it was a thing someday you got to go back to Mexico City and like reclaim it. I don't know about that. I'm going to leave it in Mexico. You are, you have a lot going on as always. I do. I do. You know, on the show, your business, your book that you just announced that's coming

out later this year. Talk about the book and how that came about and what that process was like. I've been working on this for quietly. Nobody knew I was working on this. I wanted to keep it mine because I just didn't know how I was going to pan out as I wrote it. I wrote this book in a. a very interesting way, one therapy session at a time. Every week, I would have my full hour session.

And then from that session, no take right away. Uh-huh. So that's why I'm crazy. And literally, it brought me to from trauma to trophies. And actually, I think you'll see me, you know, as you see, Russell and I had a couple's therapy. And then it led to Russell saying she really has some trauma that she has not dealt with. And so you'll see me go into personal.

And I think even in that scene in that session, I say, oh my God, so all that stuff and gertifying from, you know, the bad and too good. It's like from trauma to trophy. So I had the title out loud on the show. And then it all made sense. And I just started working on myself and figuring out, who the hell are you? Who the hell are you after cancer? I can't look at pictures of you with hair. I don't know this girl.

I can't grow my hair back because I still have this hot flashes because I'm on a five-year medicine plan. that gives me the worst flushes, and then I counter it with another pill that tries to balance it out for seven hours like Cinderella. It's that people don't know. Like, they're like, oh, she's just trying to, you know, be the poor victim with her hair. I'm like, you don't even know why I can't wear wigs again.

Like, we need to start listening and educating ourselves so that when we see someone with no hair, it ain't like, she's trying to get attention. No, my friend, is because I'm about to look like Louis Armstrong in three seconds. Like, you know. Well, first of all, you could never look like, Louis Armstrong, dirty. I tried, as Ross, I tried to grow my hair out.

So when we were in Japan, I didn't, I decided, let me see what happens. Because I have a little receding line of hair that I won't grow back after chemo. When I tell you, Rosa was like, I think you need to start shaving it back because it was looking, I was looking like my father with, with breasts. Receiving hair line. Like, this part does not grow. And then all of this grows. So it's like, hi, baby, good morning. And Russell was like, oh, hey, good looking.

So I was like, yeah. I do have to ask, I, I, you rock the, you rock the bald head. Let me tell you. But does the silver confession look? Oh, what's the story there? It was a god. Oh, that, yeah, that was, yeah, that was, I was a, I think I needed to go home. So it was, yeah, it was galactic, chic is.

I thought. Some people loved it. Some people didn't like it. But you know what? It's fine. Some things don't register well on camera. Okay. Give me grace.

We love, we love a big swing. Yeah. And you try something. It was swinging. And then the goddess party, that silver hair worked with that outfit. Right, right, right. It was a one-endant thing. Yeah.

There's a, you have to turn a lot of looks on Housewives and they can't. Yeah. Not everybody's going to like everything. Exactly. It's all good. We all had our fashion faux pas. Okay. So rest of the season, we've got a lot to look forward to reunion.

I can already tell is going to be interesting. Lit. What are you, what's your kind of, um, mindset with the rest of the season coming. You know, watching myself back, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I just felt so manipulated into a situation where I'm like, I don't want to be here. I, what is this? What is this? I felt like I felt like I was on the Truman show. That's what it was. I was, I was, I swear, I was like, is anybody what, what's going on? I feel like I was like, the only one that was like, hello? Hello? Hello? I'm being punked? That's how I felt in the beginning of the

season. And then when I realized what it was, I was like, okay, we're not going to let this take me down. We're just going to keep on moving and having fun, killing with kindness. Eventually, I think the people, they're going to be tired of the stick, you know, and I think it kind of worked. And at the reunion, I'm, if they want to give me more backstory to why things happen the way they did or not, I'm open to listening, but I'm not tap dancing to get something out of people. I'm not. I'm going to just answer questions that are asked of me. I'm just, you know, but, but, you know, some moments I had on the show was cringe.

You know, people know me as the nice Gertie, the fun Gertie. But yeah, this season was a difference out of me because of what I had to deal with that I didn't expect to deal with. And so, yeah, the loud Gertie, you know, talking over people sometimes where it was at a point, I felt like I, even when I had a one-on-one with someone and I'm like, okay, can I tell you my story? And I did deaf ears. So when I tell you, I felt like the system was rigged in a sense within the group, I'm like, okay, it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. So carry on, moving on. And that's all I can do because- Life is too short. That's it. That's it. Why are we beefing again? Like, didn't you go through something? Aren't you having a beautiful family experience?

Why bring me into that? You could have had an amazing season with your story. Why bring me into that? So that's sad, but I didn't. I kept being me, but I got to defend myself. not going to let people paint me as what I am not. That's it. From Trauma to trophies.

Trauma to trophies. Out now on Amazon. The book looks great. I can't wait to read it. It's amazing. We'll have to chat again once the book's here. Yes, honey. There's a lot of, you know, people don't know about my past and my childhood.

And these things that I've buried because I just felt like this is, it is what it is. Well, I always think that some of the best, some of the best people that come on housewives are people that have had a big full life before that. But then because of everything that's going on in the show, we don't always get all of it. And so I'm excited to, I feel like you've got some stuff to dig into. I have layers. Yeah. And it's only the tip of the iceberg. We have a big family.

And, you know, it's just, it's a lot of dynamics that people don't know about that happened in my life behind, you know, the screen. And, you know, I share a little by little, you know. Yeah. It's my story. I'm sticking to it. Well, as always, Gertie, a pleasure to catch up with you. Thanks for being here. I love it.

And thanks everyone for watching. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Duh. I love it. Crust it. Crushed it.

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