Mention It All - Captain Sandy On Seeing Hannah Ferrier Again At BravoCon Ft. Captain Sandy Yawn

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

It’s the first video episode of 2026 and Dylan is kicking off the new year with a Below Deck legend: Captain Sandy Yawn sits down to talk Season 10 of Below Deck Med, what it’s like looking back on 30+ years in yachting, and why BravoCon always reminds her the Below Deck universe is truly a global family. Sandy breaks down the V moment and why giving someone space to heal is literally part of maritime training. Plus, she shares what fans don’t always understand about leadership under pressure. Then, we get into the behind the scenes logistics that make the show possible, from how they choose locations and anchorages to why weather protection matters so much when you’re trying to get off the dock every charter. Captain Sandy also gives an update on her relationship with Hannah Ferrier and what it was like seeing each other again at BravoCon. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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See Store Online for details. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. We are starting off the new year with a long time Bravo staple. We love Below Deck here. And I am so happy to finally have one of our veteran captains on the show, Captain Sandy Yon. Welcome. How's it going? Thank you for having me. When you say veteran captain, I was like, wow, I'm 10 years older. That's a lot. So it's a decade. Yeah. You're in your ninth season of Below Deck Med right now. It's the show's 10th season. Yes. You've been in yachting for 30 plus years at this point. What does it like to kind of look back on that much of your life that you've spent doing this? And now a chunk of your life that you've spent doing it on the show, too.

From who I used to be to who I've become is incredible. It's like night and day, 180 degree turnaround. And people trust me, which is really cool. And, you know, I was not trustworthy in the past. However, then I get the show. It's like, wow, I didn't seek it. It came to me. And the doors, I was really concerned about walking through the doors and go, should I do this?

It's going to ruin my career. It works so hard for it. And then I walked through the doors. And it's really cool because when you see how excited the fans are and just go to a BravoConn and you can see. Because it is definitely a culture. It makes you want to be a better human being on the show. Do a better job. Engage more.

And I need to get better at social media. And that's my goal for 2026 is I'm actually going to put the time in. Okay. Because I'm not that generation of social media. Yeah. So I got to stop saying that and start becoming that. Well, I think it's interesting because below deck, I mean, when you joined, obviously, there had been one season of Below Deck Med and there had been a few years of the original

Below Deck franchise. But it was, I think, sort of around the time that you joined, really becoming this like whole universe and, you know, a cultural phenomenon and people, it was this world of yachting that people hadn't really been exposed to before, at least not in this, you know, this way where there's cameras everywhere on a boat. And I think, you know, over the last 10 years, it's become something where people are so much more aware of this world of yachting. We have opinions on things that we know nothing about, you know, there are like, there are all these spin-offs and people have left and come back and gotten married and had babies. And then, yeah, seeing you guys at BravoCon, I think that

more than any other show, I think, because Below Deck is such a global family, I guess, we don't always see all of you in the same room together. And then there's the different shows. And so it's, it's really exciting to kind of think about everything that's happened in the last 10 years. Yeah, I love that you said that. You don't see us in the room together. And at BravoCon, and you get to witness that, which is really cool. And I get to spend time with people I've never met personally because we're all over the planet, right? And yeah, I like what you said.

Like the show, you live the lives with the people, and that's what's so great about reality TV because we don't act. It's not scripted. It actually is following our lives as we work on board and what the crew go through, the hookups, the breakups, the emotional part. The fans experience that emotionally.

Yeah. And they're invested emotionally. And when you see the history of that, it's really cool. And where I see that is walking in public and hearing what these people say to me. Or, you know, that BravoCon experience, which I think is really epic, is that you get to spend time with all these cast members that you've never met and get to know them a little more besides behind the camera. And below deck, the whole franchise is incredible because they're real jobs.

Yeah. It's a real job. Yeah. Yeah, and we had, Asia was here toward the beginning of your season, you know, a few months ago. And we were talking about, like, being in yachting is already a unique experience and a small community. And then the number of people who have been in yachting on the TV show dealing with that element of it, it's such a small group of people who can really relate to the exact experience you guys have had. So, you know, when you're with Carrie or, you know, Jason or Glenn or, you know, Asia and,

seeing everybody together, it's like, yeah, you guys have done something really unique in your lives. You know, I always say maritime industry is for the wayward because back in the day, we were the Wild West. And there were really no rules. Over the years, obviously, the maritime industry in the yachting sector, we've become more polished and more professional and changed our uniforms and, you know, dressing up more. The Mediterranean really sets the standard for, It sets the bar for yachting and service, which I'm so happy. I'm on that show because I was a Mediterranean captain for many years before the show. Also, you know, all these rules and regulations.

I'm immersed in my industry. Like I go to all the boat shows. I sit on the panels. I listen to the speakers. And it's fascinating. And it's a constant changing, just like TV, just like anything. You know, the rules are changing. The one thing I have to say about our industry, we are one of the only industries where the budgets

increase instead of decrease because dockage goes up, fuel goes up. And so there's always a budget there, which is really great because you're creating this experience for people to have a holiday on. And there's all levels, right? You don't always have to be on a super yacht. You can try to rent catamaran. It's affordable. Yeah, I think, you know, with below deck, especially as a captain of this super yacht, like you have to be operating at a certain level doing that job for every everybody's safety to, you know, just to make sure that the season happens. You can't just have a season where you're like, I just want to like take it easy this year. And I think I'm going to, you know, it'll be fine. It's like, no, you have to like maintain that level. And I wonder for you,

like, having done it for so long, both on the show and off, how do you, how has your relationship to that kind of level of effort and, you know, high expectation? Like, do you still have that, like, passion for it that you always have. Are you kidding me? Of course. I care. Like I care so much. I have a charity where I created an in-school curriculum. Like Florida paid for it. I'm trying to take it nationwide to teach kids that there are jobs in this industry to say, hey, you know, instead of college, a lot of parents can't afford college. A lot of kids aren't college bound to say, these are real careers. I care. I care about, I was just, we were just talking about this earlier, like the epaulettes. The uniform, uniform means one form.

So when you walk up to that boat and everybody's in their black and whites with their epaulettes and their polished shoes and you want to, you know, their shirts are tucked in, when a client walks up to that, that's your first impression of what their experience is going to be like on board. That's something to be proud of. If you go to the Monaco Boat Show and you watch how these people do Passarelle watches, they care. These crew members are proud. They have, you know, they went from one bar to two bars to three bars to, you know, to being a captain, which is four bars. it's something to strive for and it's the promotions and you always obviously

you're going to promote your crew because they've been with you for such a long time below deck offers that to people and then I have these cast members who are actually trained crew because they have to go to school they have to take classes before they work on a boat and I get to help them advance in their career

and for me that's such a blessing and I care and nothing's changed and when a chef isn't doing their job and they're not pleasing the client, it upsets me. However, I, uh, that's never happened before. But sometimes you can't please the client. I always say to the crew, it's me you have to please. Yeah. I set the bar here.

They don't. And as long as you meet my bar, you're good. I think that's, I mean, just being a, you know, being a manager of people is so complicated. And there's always so many layers of everything going on. And especially like, when you were. you're dealing with these clients and you're dealing with, you know, high pressure situations and safety regulations and all of those things. Like every situation feels like there's, okay, like, how am I going to handle this? How is it, you know, I want to be fair, but I also want to be, you know,

maintain this high level. And, you know, there's, it must, it's a lot to kind of keep track of, kind of all of these different situations. Right. Yes. So we have a lot of green crew who are learning, but you have your leadership team who know, like, listen, I'm going to use Nathan. Okay, so Nathan's character, I love his character, right? Because Nathan leans into when he makes mistakes, he admits it, and he tries to change it. To me, that's everything. The fact that he's not really great at managing right now, he's kind of, you know, he's yelling a little bit. And, you know, I want him to grow.

I want him to witness how I manage. And, you know, Max even talked about it. Like, I am calm. Like, so Max recognizes that. He sees Nathan's the opposite. So when Nathan watches that, he'll say, oh my God, I want to work on that. I guarantee you, you've put cameras up in here, film your life, you'll want to change. Yeah.

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And I think Aisha is like such a amazing example of that. Going back to, you know, many seasons ago now when she first joined the show as part of the, you know, the interior crew and then she became a chief stew on below deck down under and then returned to Med last season working with you again. And like, that's like a real journey in someone's life that we're watching. And she just, it seems like she just thrives in that role now. Asia works hard. Asia cares.

Asia teaches. Aisha's everything that you could want on board. And she's a bundle of joy. I've never seen her really upset. She deals with pressure how you would want someone in that role to deal with pressure. Whereas Nathan can learn a lot from that. And I'm saying that because I really care about Nathan. and I'd take him back as a boas in any day, because that's where I would work more in that area with him.

Because it's just about staying calm, knowing that people are going to make mistakes. Doesn't mean you have to yell at them. And I realize, is it the pressure that I put on him? You know, like what makes that angst? And I don't, pressure makes us better. I always say that to crew, but there's a point where, okay, maybe don't apply so much pressure that it takes him over the edge. Yeah. And I think especially, you know, when you're in the environment of being.

filmed all day and you're, you know, probably thinking even harder about, you know, what did I say? How did I handle something? It's like, yeah, like pressure is, it can make people, you know, respond in ways that they maybe normally wouldn't or have behaviors that they don't even realize they're doing. So, yeah, it's kind of an almost an opportunity to kind of have a little bit more of that feedback. Yeah. And when you're living and working together, you don't know what's happening below deck. Yeah. Right. So I don't. I'm just going to say that until I watch the show. So did something happen between two? This is what I think.

I wonder why he's acting like that. Did something happen? You know, they get into a disagreement. Are they jealous? Like Kizzy, you know, she's hooking up with everybody. I don't know. One maybe likes her more than the other. So that goes through my head.

And I'm thinking, you know, Kizzy's there to have a good time and do her job. She's a fantastic crew member. I really like her. Like, you know, but she's having fun. And that goes through my mind, you know, it's interesting. And I think, wow, that's what they go through. And when I watch the show, I go, wow, maybe I'll pause a little more. And maybe I'll, you know, press a little less.

Yeah. Well, I think it's tricky because also, you know, a lot of people watch this show. Everybody has opinions about everything. Like, I think being somebody who's in charge, then, you know, people are, you know, having their opinions on how you handle a situation, how somebody else made a decision, you know, like whether this person should have hooked up with that person. And then it's like nobody has all the information when it's happening. So I think it is like you kind of have to take a step back and be like, okay, maybe this made sense at the time. Yes.

Maybe I did what I could with the information I had. Yeah. Like I do know I've done this for a long time. I know how to motivate people. And I also know I'm a good people reader. Right. So and just having those conversations on the bridge really makes a difference. And I had no idea when I call someone to the bridge.

how frightening that is for them. I'm like, why? I never, I just, I never want that. So now I'm going to say come to the AFDEC, you know, I'm going to reposition myself. So it's not so frightening. Sometimes I'll, maybe come to the bell. Let's check out the anchor. And let's have a conversation while we're looking at the anchor chain.

I don't know. If I have to send a, like, a meeting invite, sometimes I'll be like, not stressful, I promise. It's like, it's fine. Good news. Yeah. Yeah, I think people, like, as somebody who works like in an office, I think, You can relate to the situations on below deck even if you've never worked in an industry like that. Because at the end of the day, it is just like a manager and a team and people doing their job and stuff that's coming up and meetings and, you know, to do lists and things.

And I think people, I think that's something that people really react to because they're like, oh, it's kind of just a show about people at work and like going through it a little bit. And it is relatable, even if you've never been to the med or whatever. And I love how it highlights the cities we go to. Yeah. I mean, and also I think the viewers get to experience that experience. They've gone to Spain and they've never been, right? So they kind of went through Barcelona a little bit. They got to experience the America's Cup, which people have never even probably heard

of that race, you know? But for me, it's like fascinating. It's every four years. It's like the Olympics of sailing. How does it, how does it, so for Below Deck Med, you've, you're in a different locale every season, basically. you've returned to some places that we've seen a couple times. How do you find out, okay, we're coming back next year.

We're doing Croatia. Like what is it like kind of starting the process of like, okay, we're coming back for another season. This is what it's going to be. Over the years we've all evolved with production. So I don't really deal with Bravo. It's the production company who deals with Bravo. So I, we discuss locations, anchors,

what's best. You want to get off the dock every charter, right? We can't control the weather, so you want to find marinas and places where you can get off the dock in any weather condition and you have protection. So as you can see, Barcelona was a hard coast. It's a hard coast.

There's really nowhere to hide. So if you really watch, those stabilizers are working overtime. Yeah. Anytime the stabilizers aren't working, I know that that's just like a stressful episode of Below Deck that I'm about to watch. You know, what did we do before stabilizers? Like, people just stayed intoxicated, even the crew. Well, that was what when, um, watching Below Deck

sailing yacht, I just had no idea. Like, there would be so many times when it's like, oh, no sailing. Sorry. Oh, sorry. We're not going to get to sail today. And it's just like, wow, this is really a fickle, a fickle thing that you have to figure out. It's all about the wind and the weather and the seas. Have you ever been on a sailing yacht? Like, is that ever seen? Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm, I don't. So. So. So I like the decks. So sailing, you can see it's just below deck, right? Right.

So you got your main deck, which is that. So you don't really have the extra levels, which, in my opinion, it's great for sailors and people who want to have that sailing experience. But I think when you're on a super yacht, you have all these different decks and swimming pools and jacuzis and bars on each floor. It adds a different experience for the client. And also, it's... kind of next level, right? So you've got to maintain all of that. Usually the boats have cameras

where in the galley they could see if the guest plates are, you know, if they need their water filled or they need more wine. And the stews are always watching that instead of hovering. Yeah. And you have other stews that just kind of stand back and kind of keep an eye if there are no cameras on the table. But yeah, it's a whole different thing. Whereas on sailing, it's one table. Right. So we have sun deck, bridge deck, main deck, salon. Yeah. There's a lot of place you can dine. Right. And people, you know, if somebody's having a cocktail out on the, you know, aft, whatever, it's like, you want to know when they need another cocktail and you don't want to be hovering. Yeah, that makes sense. It keeps the crew fit because they got to run from the sund deck, go down and make those drinks. If there's not a bar there and then they're going to the aft deck because they're there and then someone's in the bow, you know, like hanging out. Really get really getting their steps. Yes, getting their steps. I liked watching Jason's show with that elevator. That was a, that boat's tough. Yes. I, it is, it's, it's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's It's always like the boat is almost another character on the show. Oh, yeah.

You know, you guys have had different yachts over the years. And it always is like, okay, this one is like, the kitchen's a little rough, but like it's gorgeous. You know, the bedrooms are gorgeous. You know, there's always like a little bit of a give and take with what the boat has. Yeah. And this season on Barvado, it's a smaller boat than we've been. So a little tight. Yeah.

In the working area. So then the crew are on top of each other. You're like, do you want more room where you have to walk more? Do you want less room where you're just on top of each other? And I think the crew like a little more room. Yeah, it's close quarters, you can tell. It is close, yeah. I think it's so, you know, interesting with below deck.

It's different from a lot of reality shows that we watch where you are being, people are being filmed all the time, you know, in the cabins and, you know, all the different areas on the boat. How has that kind of evolved for you kind of, obviously as the captain, you get a little bit more privacy, I guess you could say. But like, how has it been for you kind of getting used to just handling business? business and then the cameras maybe being separate. The fourth wall is the fourth wall.

Then you really, they blend into the wall because they are so good at positioning themselves where they're not, well, yes, you could see the camera guy, but you, it really works psychologically where you forget they're there. Clearly,

take a look at me. Some of the times I come out of my cabin, every goes, do you brush your hair? I go, all the freaking time, man, I don't know what it is, but the back of my head just separates.

The salt air and the wind. Yeah, I don't know. That's why I started wearing a hat. I'm like, I'm not dealing. So, yeah, like, you get used to it. You, it's been a long time. So you usually have the same people. They're wonderful to work with.

And, you know, the crew, you can see the new crew. They struggle with it. But that's what I say. You're not here for that. You're here to do that. So just do your job. Yeah. And they're just going to follow you doing your job.

So you better do a good job. Yeah. I think it was one of, one of, One of our recent chefs had, was very not happy to be on camera. And it's like, well, you're here. We're watching the show. You're like signed up for it. Exactly.

You actually went through an interview for it. I was really interesting on one of the most recent episodes when Joe and Kizzy are having their dalliance, whatever. He like pushes the camera away. And then you can see that like somebody's running after with the camera. Like, do you, is that something that you kind of? That's a no-no. Exactly.

That's a huge no-no. So you don't do that. Yeah. Because I feel like it's like if you... You can't, it's like touching the equipment. Right. It's you're practically touching the person. So they do not like that.

Yeah. Well, because I would imagine it's like the camera crew isn't going to mess with the ropes or whatever that you need on the yacht. It's kind of like a symbiotic relationship that you have to follow. They are very aware where to position and they've been doing this a long time. And some people just don't want them to see. their behavior in the moment. I'm sure he got a tongue lashing over that one. This episode is brought to you by Redfin.

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That was a really, I thought, sensitive situation. And I thought that the way that you kind of gave her the time that she needed, maybe before she even had to ask for it was a really kind of lovely thing to see. What was it like for you kind of navigating that situation? Yeah, great question. Two things, right? It's twofold. You want the person that's working on the boat to be there emotionally because the guests pick up on everything. So if there's a problem or you're struggling emotionally, you pick up on energy, right?

So there's that. And then you want that person to feel supported and not like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry this happened in your life, but you need to do your job and be present. Who would do that to anyone? Yeah. So give them the space because when you do that for people, I do it because it's the right thing to do. The return that you're going to get from that person is tenfold. So that's called the human element.

And we're taught that in maritime school. So we take a class called Helm and it's all about the human element. And so you have to, it's a cultural bias. It's a cultural, like we go to school for this on how to deal with this because we're, We're saving lives at sea, remember. Yeah. You need your people present. So you need to give them that time.

And so that's for me, it's like I wanted her to feel supported. Go have what you need to do and then come back. And I guarantee you when she returned, it was a switch. Boom, back on board. Yeah. I think that's such a good kind of, I don't know, lesson or thing to keep in mind that it's like when someone's going through something like a lot of the time the best thing is just to like let them take the time they need or go do what they need to do and then like let them

come back when they're ready because it you know life is life and work is work and they don't need to be you know one at the expense of the other that's right and you got and if you're in leadership you got to pause you got to look at your people because they're human beings and you got to give them the time because your expectations. of them is to perform their duties while on board, right? How do they do that? Well, there's an emotional side there too. So it's giving the space for that. We have plenty of crew members. Wasn't a problem for our, like, and the crew want to pick up the extra. They'll make up for it because they also care. And everybody's invested. Right. And that makes a difference. Well, and I think, too, it's like, if,

if you give one person the space that they need to deal with something, then it's like, you can kind of have each other's backs in various different ways throughout the season or throughout life or whatever. You know, it's like you're paying it forward a little bit to cover for that person. And the opportunity was there to allow that, right? So if we're at sea, the middle of the ocean, you know, taking on water, V's going to show up. You know what I mean? It's not going to be thinking about anything else, but let's get the water out of the boat because it belongs out of the boat, not in the boat.

So and those those opportunities happened and it happened where we could allow that, which was wonderful. Do you feel like the way that you kind of pay attention or, or, you know, pick up on things that are going on with the crew, maybe in their personal lives or, you know, between each other? Do you think that that has changed over the years with you being a captain? I think I've always been that way. So for me, like, remember, I've had a big career in this industry. And the people that I worked with many, many years ago were still in each other's lives. We're friends, right? So, uh, uh, I, um, I, um, I'm. Um, um, I, um, um, um, I. Um, um, um, I, um, um, I've always had that compassion side because I wanted people to have that with me.

I treat people how I want to be treated. So it's the same. I'm the same human being I was 30 years ago when I started. And by the way, I worked for a captain who was really a jerk. And I thought, I will never be like that. Okay. You're like keeping that in the back of my mind. That's like the guiding principle.

Yeah, because I care. Yeah. I care about people first. then there's the job, the responsibility. But first is it's about people. And I think, I mean, you've talked about in the show, we've heard, you know, a lot about in the yachting industry, especially in crew positions and captain positions, it's such a male dominated area. And I think that you just like occupying the position that you occupy.

It's like that is, I'm sure, making an impact in the next generation. Absolutely. It opens doors for women. careers. And a lot of times, and I, it isn't that men doesn't want women in that role. It's, that's not, it's women have babies. They're not going to leave their children, right? So usually, because you're young when you start in this business, let's look at Malia, who's pregnant now. She's off boats, right? She's selling boats now. Malia had a great career. She's still very young, but she's now going to have a baby. She's not going to be on a yacht in the middle of

the ocean while she's pregnant or after she has her baby. So those are the choices for women. But yes, these doors in the marine industry are open for women. And I think, too, just like being able to be that kind of, like a, you know, a figure broadly because you're on a show that a lot of people watch, but also being a mentor for specific people like Malia, like, you know, seeing lots of women over the years. Like, I think it's, it's that dynamic is we don't get to see it really on any other show. I think it's really interesting. and exciting. Yeah, you know what I love?

I was just at the Monaco Boat Show in September, and Katie Flood was there in Leah. Oh, yeah. And I love how they want to have dinner with us and have lunch. And it's just, I said to Lee, it's really cool. Like, so below debt created that relationship for us. Yeah. Isn't that wonderful?

Mm-hmm. And we still see each other along the path. Mm-hmm. And when we do, we go out, we catch up on each other's lives. It's incredible. I mean, even see, we, we got to. to see your wedding last season on the show and Kate Chastain gave a toast at your wedding and obviously Aisha was there.

Like, you know, you guys are in each other's lives in real ways. I do, I want to ask. So Hannah Ferrier was at BravoCon this year. I'm curious like how your relationship with her has evolved in the years since she left the show because she is in Australia. She has a family. Yeah. Life has lifed in the last few years.

Yeah. So I was going to Australia, New Zealand for press. for Hey You. And I asked our showrunner, Nadine, to, I go, I'd love to see Hannah. Maybe you could ask her if I could meet her family. To me, I never had any animosity. I just am a captain doing my job, right? There was never any ill will from my side. So when Hannah said yes, we had a wonderful conversation. A lot of healing took place. And yeah, I had this deal, City Cruises live. And I said, let's bring, you know, she landed on my heart when I, they said, who would you like to join you? And I said Hannah, because I felt like also with BravoCon. I was like, she was there in the

beginning. She belongs there. You know what I mean? So it felt natural. And she got a great, like I love her daughter and, you know, Josh, her husband, like, he's very handsome fellow. You know what I mean? Like, she did well. And Hannah's, Hannah's great. Like, she's happy. Yeah. I think that's, you know, I think because you're on a show that people watch and react to, people obviously key in on like, oh, this is drama or this is a scandalous situation or whatever. But like at the end of the day, like you guys built something, I think really special together. And so it's nice that, you know, nine, ten years later, you can find that connection versus focusing on one, you know, a situation that maybe got like blown out of proportion

or view it a certain way. Yeah. So I, you know, it's interesting because I got to be, you know, with Hannah on these events. And I got, you know, to know more and more. And it just, you know, I just texted her this morning. You know, we're in touch. And it's cool. Yeah.

You know, it's like really cool. Aisha and I text all the time and Nathan and Joe. Like I stay in touch. Malia, Katie. Yeah. It's, I mean, it's, it is like a. it's a tight-knit family, even if it's a little bit of a, it doesn't look like a normal family. Yeah, Chef Dave, I adore him.

Yeah, he did your, he did your wedding too, right? Yeah, that was a baby. And trying to get him to move in my area because I'm like, oh, you should move here. They have water parks and. Okay, okay. I like the idea of that. I think, you know, it's just, it's fun to see. I mean, obviously seeing your proposal and your wedding last season is a different side than we normally get to see of Captain Sandy on the show.

And then now Aisha is, you know, getting married in the spring and very excited to see her so happy with Scott. Like, it's fun to get to kind of grow along with you guys, even if the format of the show is like, we go and do these charters for eight weeks or whatever. Yeah. Best day of my life. Marrying Leah. Best day in my life. Something about getting married, the act of it, it's a feeling I can't describe. And everyone that I've talked to says the same thing. it is unworldly. Yeah. I mean, I've seen you guys together at BravoCon and stuff like that.

And I feel like it, it really, you can sense that you guys like have each other's backs in a way that is really like impactful. More than just like, oh, we love each other. It's like real partners. Oh, totally.

And we laugh all the time. Lee is very funny. She has that sense of humor. Like the one-liners, I crack up. We, it's just, we enjoy each other.

Yes, of course, we have our growing pains. But we learn the art of communication. You know, we learned, she taught me the word grace. I taught her the word do-over. Can you have a do-over? Can you give me the great's a do-over? I feel like those go together well.

Yeah, totally. Yeah, I think it's, yeah, it's just, it's fun to feel like, okay, we've watched Captain Sandy for nine seasons, but we also have, you know, Sandy the person. Like Sandy the, the, you know, real life off the boat. And yeah, actually I'm a big child. Like, I love to play. I play all the time, all the time. Well, yeah, because I think, like, the role that you sort of have to occupy on the boat is, by nature, it's a serious responsibility.

And I think it's nice to, like, everybody has multiple sides to them. Yeah. Do you feel like in, you know, nine seasons in, 10 years of the show, like, when you think about the future, we just, you know, saw Aisha recently talking about envisioning a future, you know, she's getting married. I'm sure, you know, that's a consideration for her. What do you kind of see in the future for Captain Sandy? Oh, my gosh. Are you kidding me? I got a boat business I'm doing.

I have my charity. You know, I have an in-school program. I'm trying to take nationwide. So it is about, for me, the education in the schools for kids to learn about our industry is a big priority for me. So many people watch the show and ask how can they get in the industry. So now we're going into grades. school, which is really great. So it's Captain Sand and the Ocean Rangers. I'm very excited about that.

And I have a business, I'm starting, I have a partner in Jacksonville, Florida, where we're doing a 49 passenger vessel to do corporate events and we'll see what the people there want. So my mind, I think I want this. However, it could be a very different story. Shod Khan's building of four seasons there. He owns Motor Yacht Kismet. He owns the Jaguars, go Jaguars because they're doing really well. There's a lot going on in Captain Sandy world. That's right. Yes, Lee and I stay engaged. Leah's launching a new product, skin care.

Yeah, it's a constantly innovative household. And we play in our pool all the time. Our pool is a big jacuzzi. Okay. Sounds nice. Well, it's been fun to watch the season and all the seasons before. And I love seeing everything that you have going on. Yeah.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. It's a great way to kick off the new year. We're recording this in December, but it's good. I can't wait to see everything in 2026. And thanks everyone for watching. Don't forget to rate review and follow. And until next time, be cool.

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