Mention It All - Choose Your Fighter: French Fries or Franchise? (RHOSLC, RHOP, RHOM)

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Choose Your Fighter: French Fries or Franchise? (RHOSLC, RHOP, RHOM)It’s officially the busiest time in the Bravo calendar, and Dylan sorts through the noise to break down the three most important Real Housewives episodes of the week. Starting with the RHOP season 10 premiere, he has some advice for Stacey in her second season, but has high hopes for a season that is missing some important pieces of baggage. From there, he sets his sights on Salt Lake City, who delivered another banger episode, with Angie K breaking out some of her best reads ever. Meanwhile, Bronwyn and Mary are both dealing with complicated maternal relationships, and Whitney Rose is ready to welcome the pole back into her life. And finally, Julia’s revelation completely derails the Miami reunion, but at least we’re having fun along the way. Plus, Dylan shares what’s All The Rage this week, presented by Angry Orchard Hard Cider. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast And we've made it To another Friday And we are in one of those rare moments of the calendar Where we It's a four housewives show week

And I gotta tell you I gotta tell you it's a fun time to be a Housewives fan, but it's also, God, I'm tired. Does anybody else feel like they're getting old when they have too many shows to catch up on? It's like, okay, so Sunday, Potomac, Tuesday, Salt Lake, Thursday, O.C. and Miami. O.C. and Miami? There's only so many hours in the day. There's only so many days in the week. And all of those times right now are full of Housewives. But it's a problem to have. We have a lot to talk about today. We're going to talk about Miami Reunion Part 2. We're going to talk about Salt Lake, another banger of a Salt Lake episode. And we are,

of course, going to get into the Real Housewives of Potomac season 10 premiere. I can't believe we've made it 10 years with these ladies. That's making me feel old, too. We're going to skip OC for this week, just frankly, too much to get to. But before we dive in, I want to just remind everyone that you can watch full episodes, video episodes on Tuesdays on our YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash at Bravo by Betches. Earlier this week, our Tuesday episode was with Asha from Below Deck Med. She is, you know, an icon of the Below Deck universe. She has been on for six seasons now. And, you know, this one is another fun one. And I just love sitting down and chatting with Asia. She's a ball of sunshine in real life, just like she is on the show. And also just like

such a hoot. So definitely go check that out if you haven't yet. And next week, speaking of the Potomac 10th anniversary, we have Ashley Darby, one of the OGs herself. She was in the studio earlier this week talking about all things Potomac, talking about all things Stacy. So that's going to be a fun one. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube or wherever you watch and listen, so you don't miss that. But lots of exciting stuff coming up for the rest of the month, so you're not going to want to miss anything. But without further ado, let's get into this Potomac premiere because season 10 of Potomac, I thought that season nine was kind of a return to form for them.

You know, they had been a little bit lost for a season or two. And they made some changes and they judged some things up. But season nine was not a perfect season. There were still some frustrating elements. And a couple of those things have sort of sorted themselves out between season nine and season 10. Obviously, first and foremost, the Karen Hugar's situation, she was in jail pretty much the whole time they were filming this season. So, you know, she looms large, but she is not around on the show. And I do think in season nine, one of the,

one of the faults of that season was that Karen was there, but not quite. She wasn't able or willing to really talk about or meaningfully engage with the conversation about things that were going on in her life. Partially for legal reasons that are understandable, but also she just isn't great at taking accountability for things or acknowledging her mistakes or even like answering simple questions all the time. So it was just kind of tough to be stuck with Karen in that place for the whole season. And then the other big change between last season and this season is that Mia is no longer on the show. And I gotta say, you would never know that she was even there. She is an interesting case of like when she was on the show, last season especially,

her stuff, her baggage, her things that were going on in her life sucked up so much of the oxygen in the room to where it was like, oh, it's hard for us to have a real conversation about anything else because Mia has some major update about what's going on with her and Gordon. Or there's, you know, a problem happening with the kids. Or her and Jacqueline are having another, you know, knock down drag out of, are you guys friends with benefits or are you mortal enemies? I can't tell from day to day. It's giving Julia and Adriana. And we don't need more of that on our TV screens. And so at the end of last season, when Mia announced she wasn't coming back, it was like, okay, like, probably for the best, because the circus is a lot to follow. But also, like, that was a big chunk of last season. So you, even if it seems like a good, you know, a good thing overall, you do still have to think like, okay, we're going to have to fill that airtime with something else.

And this premiere, you just, you don't miss anything. You don't even really, I mean, Karen, like I said, is, is, is, present, even if she's not physically present. But Mia, it feels like she hasn't been on this show for 10 years. Nobody's like, wow, it feels so weird to be in this group without Mia. Sometimes the housewives that have the most drama going on don't always have the biggest impact or the biggest legacy. And I feel like Mia is probably going to be kind of in that category where she was a big presence on the seasons she was on. But I don't think she's really going to be like in that pantheon at all. And five years from now, I don't think we're going to be talking about Mia. I mean, we're already not. I feel like I'm talking about Mia more than anybody else has in the last six months. But anyway, the season starts with sort of a pickup scene before they've really gotten into filming. Right after Karen's sentencing and Karen going to jail, a bunch of the ladies get together to kind of, you know, hash out how they feel about it at Giselle's house. I thought this was a great way to start the season. We basically zoom forward two months after this scene.

which is what I meant when I said they weren't really filming yet. But I think it was important to kind of mark the occasion. And I think also seeing at the beginning of the premiere that they started with Karen getting out of jail and then like zoomed back six months, it's like, okay, Karen is not on the show this season, but she is still a part of the show. And I think that it would have felt, it feels fine for Mia to not be in the equation. It would have felt really strange if they had moved for. forward with this season and just kind of acted like the Karen stuff didn't happen. Because Karen, you know, however you feel about Karen or whether or not she should be on the show in the future, Karen is like a very integral part of the fabric of this series from start to finish. So you kind of can't,

you can't pretend that that's not a thing. And I'm glad that they didn't. I hope that we can kind of move on and not dwell on that for most of the season. But based on the rest of this premiere, I don't think that's going to be an issue because this premiere was kind of delightful. There is a lot going on. We have two brand new housewives in the cast, which I kind of forgot about. Maybe I should have been like, you know, doing my research a little bit more. But I sat down to watch over the weekend. And I was like, oh, yeah. Okay. So like, Kiarna's still here. Stacey's still here. Oh, yeah, I think there's like a new, is like new, new, new girl, new friend of, new whatever. And I'm like, oh, no, two new housewives, Tia and Angel. Tia's British, Angel, went to college with Wendy. It's very, that bitch, Yovana from Clark. And Wendy's like, oh, she's a familiar face, but I didn't like know her. Am I supposed to? I mean, right away, Angel in her confession, is like, well, Wendy was several years older than me. So we, you know, we may be, we didn't really, you know, cross paths. First of all, I'm like, how many is several?

Is this a technical term? Because if somebody is several years older than you, I wouldn't think you would have overlapped at a four-year university at all. So really, she must mean like three. Three years is not several. How much old? I'm like, I want to see the receipts. How much older is Wendy than Angel? But I don't know. Either way, I'm intrigued by that. Angel also seems to have like some sort of weirdness for Ashley because she says that she knows her or recognizes her for when she was a bottle girl. I'm like, okay, that's, I think Ashley would debate that and perhaps did in our interview. So make sure you're subscribed. But Tia seems fun. I like that in this first episode, both Tia and Angel

are introduced to us and we get little glimpses of how they might. might show up within the group, but it's not like, we have other stuff to focus on for now, but I'm excited to get more from both of them. They both feel promising to me. And I also feel pretty good about our two new housewives from last season, Stacey and Kay, because both of them are, it feels like they are feeling themselves in their second season and really, really going for it. and Kearnah's like big thing this season is that she is big mad at Wendy for not acknowledging her at some event while Wendy was on stage accepting an award and Kearna's like, why didn't you wave to me or whatever? And Wendy's like, are you, are you serious? I think that that is an

interesting little dynamic and I also am just so fascinated by whatever is going on with Stacey at any given time. So she, after last season's reunion, I mean, that reunion performance was really delicious in the most, in the most ridiculous way, you know, but still I rise, this, that, and the other thing. And going into this season, it's clear that she has not really been able to get the women believing her at all. Really, I mean, nothing has happened since last season's reunion to make them trust her anymore or to think that she's any less of a liar, which is a tough place to be. Because, I mean, I'm on record as saying that I think everybody lies to a certain extent, and I don't think that that's like a crime that should be punishable by death. But I do think that if you're still

on the newer end of a group like this, having the reputation of somebody who lies about stuff is really hard to come back from when it comes to building friendships and building meaningful relationships, whether those are meaningful relationships beyond the show or just strategic for the show, both of those are important things. So she is still not admitting to any sort of, you know, accusation about TJ, even though he's saying that he has receipts. But on top of that, she's now adding another layer of dishonesty because she's talking to Ashley and Ashley is asking about whether or not Stacey is actually legally divorced because Ashley's in detective mode and she's like, well, baby, I looked up the papers and I didn't see any filings from you.

Meanwhile, mine is public record, my divorce. And Stacey is like, just, first of all, she's like, thinks it's so ridiculous that Ashley has looked this up, which like, it kind of is. I mean, this is like, in real life, it would be pretty crazy for somebody to be like, hey, bitch, I looked up your public divorce records and they're not there. But we're on housewives. This is, I think it's fair game. I don't know, whatever. But she is lying to Ashley in real time because we have just seen Stacey at dinner with her ex,

the German dude, and that they're back together and they're testing things out and seeing how it goes. And not only is she not admitting that to Ashley while they're having a conversation about her divorce. That's how Stacey says divorce, Ashley. but they're also, again, lying to their daughter. Oh, my God, and I don't want to be the parenting police. I really don't know the best way to handle telling a girl of however, whatever age, Arabella is that you are getting back together with your ex-husband, who you got a divorce from.

But it's just so crazy, because last season, they were like, we're not telling her, Bella, that we're getting divorced, and now she's with somebody, now they're back together, and they're not telling her about that. It's like, this child, oh my God, I hope that this child has so much love in her life and that everything is going to be fun, but there might be therapy down the road. Just Stacy, beware. Oh, my God, but her actively not taking the chance to be honest with Ashley, that she's not, she's not, she is seeing her husband again. It's like, babe, you know you're getting filmed right now. She shows up to dinner and she's like, I'm here to see a special someone.

She's not, it's frustrating because I think that she is very fun to watch. I enjoy her presence on the show quite a bit, but it doesn't feel like she is making any choices that are going to benefit her standing in the group. And, you know, we've seen, I feel like it, it harkens in a very different way, but there is a parallel maybe with what we've seen with Katie on Real House of Orange County, where she has a lot of fan support because people enjoy the energy that she's bringing. But in the process of that, she has lost any kind of trust or goodwill from the women in the group. And unfortunately, for them, the women in the group are the ones you're on the show with. And I would like to see Stacey, like, learning her lesson from

last season, just a scosh, and it doesn't seem like that is super likely. I'm excited to see all of it. I mean, Giselle is empty nesting. She kind of has a Heather gayish attitude about it. She seems pretty happy. She has room in her life for a man, but just like a fun Potomac premiere. You know, we're talking about Stacey's Breath. We're talking about, you know, who remembers who from when they went to Temple University. We're talking about, you know, Ashley finally being single and doing a photo shoot with her naked newspapers.

There's just like a lot of good stuff happening. Kiarna and Greg aren't together. Let's celebrate that. It might not last TBD. But just like good stuff happening in Potomac and I am excited that it feels like this show is in a really positive place. And I can't wait to watch the rest of the season.

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Girl, Winter is so last season. And now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. That perfect hang on the patio sundress. Those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope.

It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Speaking of another show that is just delivering across the board. Real House House of Salt Lake City every week just continues to be another feast for the senses. And this week, we pick up where we left off at Lisa's legal press conference dismissed luncheon with, you know, the Canva poster boards in the background. And of course, there's not going to be any kind of resolution at this event because, you know, how could there be? And on the contrary, now we have Angie and Lisa really going back and forth at it over their businesses.

And this just gives us some really, like, just like excellent little moments, excellent little tidbits. The way these women yell at each other is just perfection. It's just so lovely. But Angie, Angie and Lisa, it's tough. Lisa is trying to drag Angie's business saying that, you know, she tells everyone that she owns all of these salons. But actually she only, she and Sean only own one and a half salons. and the rest are franchises. Angie's saying, oh, I actually own three and the rest are franchises, but franchises are a good thing.

And this leads to one of Angie's best bars she's ever dropped when she says, you do French fries, I do franchise. And even Mary's like French prize and Heather like says it again and she's like, oh, that's good. Of course, nodding to the fact that Lisa, is like at this point more of the mascot for Wendy's than that little pigtail girl Wendy actually is. But just like, you do French fries. I do franchise. It's such a beautiful concoction. It flows off the tongue so well. You can just, you can envision the merch opportunities. You can envision Angie's tagline next season referencing it.

It just feels like God was flowing through her in that moment when she said that. And fun fact, now Angie and Wendy's, the corporation Wendy's, are going back and forth on Twitter. They're feuding. The girls are fighting. The girls being Wendy's, Wendy and Angie. Because Wendy's, at Wendy's on X, quote tweeted a Bravo post and said, canceling my hair appointments at Angie's one point. First of all, like, it's funny. It's funny. I love that Wendy's is having fun. Everybody should have fun on social media. But Angie quote tweeted it. And she said, just like I keep your French fries out of my mouth, keep my franchise out of yours. French fry emoji, scissors emoji, nails painted emoji. Just excellence happening. Everywhere you look, it's so fucking funny. I can think about it for days

And I have, in fact, I have. But then also there's like another thread of this is that Angie is throwing Lisa and Jack Barlow's fresh wolf hair line kind of under the bus because she says she's been stocking it in the salon and that nobody ever buys it. And she also was criticizing Lisa, you know, later when Heather comes to her salon and there's, you know, she's giving Heather this like weird curly hairdo. and they're talking more about this issue. She's calling out the fact that Lisa has this business venture with her son that's a hair care brand, and that she seems to, according to Angie, have been essentially neglecting this business that she started with her son in favor of chasing down an endorsement with Caristaz. Of course, Caristaz famously, Carastas Thermatique last season in the high body count hair discussion.

And Lisa, in fact, did get an endorsement with Kerasaaz after that. So it's kind of funny that Angie is like, there's some layers to what she's getting at here with Lisa because there's the dig of like, oh, I did you a favor by stocking your products in my store. And they've been collecting dust, literal dust, because nobody ever buys them. That's like layer number one, aka your business is a flop. And then dig number two, it's like, you did this with your son. And then you're kind of letting it rot and you're not supporting it because you want to chase this bigger, more attractive brand deal. That's like a second layer to it. So then Lisa feels like she's coming for her son, which is like not really what's happening, but also like leave the kids out of it.

Sure. So many layers. So many layers. And my favorite one. My favorite one. You know, French fries franchise is the line of the episode. but the one that really has been stuck in my brain since I watched this episode the other day is when Angie's talking to Heather and they're talking about Lisa's hair.

And of course, Angie's a hair expert. She's a hair entrepreneur. She knows all about high and low body count hair. She's going to tell you, tell it like it is about the hair. And she says that Lisa dyes her hair bowling ball black and that this is my favorite part, Bowling ball black, and that hair that dark doesn't have shine. This made me giddy when Angie said it, because it's so specific. It's so specific, and it's so matter of fact, she dives to her bowling ball black and

hair that dark doesn't have shine. It's so specific in the most cutting way. And you know that when Lisa heard that, when she watched the episode, she was probably so pissed. And you know that it took everything in her not to be like tweeting like, this is actually the shade that I had diamond hair. It's not bowling boll black. It's, you know, a beautiful chocolate brown. It's, you know, it has to mention my hair is so shiny. I actually have the shiniest hair of everyone in the group. So it's really strange that Angie would say my hair is not shiny. Um, basically like Angie is very diluted. And I,

nobody in this group is doing things like me. And that includes having shiny hair. you know that Lisa wanted to go for that. It just is like the way that these women rip into each other. Sometimes it's dramatic and over the top, and sometimes it's just with some of the funniest things I've ever heard. And bowling ball black, I don't know if that's a technical term. I'm not in the hair coloring game, but my God, I just love Angie. I love Angie so much.

We have like a few interesting little conversations this episode. there's been a lot of like family stuff going on the last few weeks, which I think is, I think it's a good thing to develop within the cast because when these ladies get together as a group, it's always just kind of a mess in a good way, but like it's a lot. And so I like kind of taking a step back, seeing what people have going on in their lives a little more. Like for example, Whitney is reinstalling the pole because she loved when people knew her as this late woman who is so fun and she's just like carefree and on the pole. And so now, I felt like I got my, you know, when I was in the business world, I lost that side of myself. And so now that the business felt, I want to have the poll again. It's like, okay, girl, do whatever. Sure, sure. Put the pole back in the basement. Like, nobody took the poll from you. You can be a boss business bitch and still dance on the pole. No one is stopping you. But I'm glad that Whitney Rose is living her truth. No, in terms of real conversations, We see Bronwyn with her mom again. Oh, my God. This last week, I feel like, was a little like appetizer of what their relationship is like, where it was like, oh, like a little, a little thorny, a little frosty, perhaps. You know, there's, you can tell there's some, some challenging history there. But this week, oh, my God. Because Bronwyn has all of this stuff from when she was younger. When she had Gwen, when she was a teenager, and, you know, she felt judged and she felt like she, you know, wasn't making her parents proud. And you know how like a lot of

the time when you have like a, you know, a complicated situation or, you know, with family or whatever, and you're like, oh my God, like I feel like they're not proud of me. I feel like I've let people down. I feel like I'm not good enough. I feel like they're going to judge me. And like most of the time in real life, it's kind of all in your head. Yeah, it might be a hard. It might be a hard conversation. It might not be, you know, easy right away. But like, your family loves you. They're going to come around. They're going to, you're going to make the best of it, whatever. And with Bronwyn, it's like, no, all of those things that you've been fearing, all of those things that have gone unsaid, it's going to be as bad, if not worse. This conversation is going to be just as brutal as you feared

it was. And it's just like, I can't imagine. And I, I, you know, I'm sure there are people listening to this who have, who see their, their parental relationships in that conversation between Bronwyn and her mom and I, I'm sorry. But I'm like, I cannot imagine sitting down and having that conversation with my parents. Where there's the, the lack of willingness to just like make your kid feel a little bit good. That is so tough. I don't know. And I mean, like, we've seen a lot of complicated parent-child dynamics on housewives. I mean, think about on this show a couple years ago, Monica and her mom, my God, this is very different from that because it's like, it operates at a quieter decibel. It's less dramatic, but it's, God, it feels so painful. I mean, I don't know

where you really go from there. Bronwyn's like a fully grown adult. I don't know that people really change when, you know, her mom's probably like 70. I don't know that she's going to change. Then we also get an interesting scene of Mary with her cousin at the church, which we have not seen the church in quite a while on this show. And it turns out, I don't think I realize this, the church has been closed for a couple of years. So the time that Mary has been back as a housewife, she hasn't talked about the church really. She hasn't showed us the church, but it turns out that the church has not been open during that time. So maybe that is, was on purpose. And so maybe that is, was on purpose. Maybe it's a coincidence. I don't know. But I'm curious to see kind of like how that goes this time,

because last time there was a lot of questions about the church. But she's talking to her cousin, and they're talking a lot about Mary's relationship with her mom, which is not something we've heard a ton about, and that they basically were estranged from the time that Mary's grandmother died and then Mary married her grandmother's husband, as we know. It feels weird to even like go back to that conversation, also because we don't see Robert Sr. on the show, like, literally ever anymore. But that her mom wanted to take over the church and didn't want to abide by the grandmother's kind of choice that Mary was going to be the one to marry Robert and to take over the church. And that for the last, I don't know, 20, 25 years of her life, they, like, basically didn't have a relationship because of that.

I mean, that is tough stuff. And that just in the last year or so, Mary's mom passed away. And I don't think they ever really got to have that moment of coming back together. And now that chance is gone. And I mean, I think that is a super tough thing. I think it's fascinating. I'm glad that Mary felt willing to share that. But man, just. tough stuff. Tough stuff. And I see similarities in Mary and Bronwyn's relationships with their moms. I think that's really an interesting thing to tap into a little bit. But I like that this show can give us such ridiculous over-the-top moments in one episode and also in the same episode have these really like human moments of family and emotion and connection. Because I think that that is part of why this show works so well. Lisa and Bronwyn actually have a seemingly productive conversation. that wasn't on my bingo card, but Salt Lake City just continues to be a delight, and I can't wait to continue to talk about it every week. This episode is brought to you by Redfin. You're listening to a podcast, which means you're probably multitasking,

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Miami, part two of the reunion. For over half of this episode, we are dealing with the fallout of Julia's revelation at the end of part one that she and Adriana slept together in the Hamptons. Now, we get a little bit more info, a little more context. So this, I was wondering last week, I wasn't positive. She is talking about the cast trip to the Hamptons, I believe on season four. She says it was four years ago. This was when they were there, I think for Larsa's jewelry line, which, by the way, is Larsa's jewelry line still happening?

Nobody knows. Okay. Got the graveyard of Larsa's business ventures. What's going on with a $1,000 doggy collar? Is that still a thing? Nobody knows? Okay. The tequila?

Nope. Got it. So this is what we're going back to. And then Julia also tells Andy that they fooled around once at the Versace mansion, which was also on the show. They were there. I think it was Alexia's Bachelorette. So that was a couple seasons ago. First of all, I'm like, if you guys are like best friends, why you've only, you've hooked up twice ever and both times have been when you're on a cast trip for the show or like staying somewhere during filming.

It doesn't really seem like you're trying that hard not to get caught. I'm surprised it took this long for it to come out. There are literally cameras with you guys in the bed. I don't know. But so, so Julia says that she told Martina about this, about cheating on her, I guess, six months ago.

And Martina was really hurt. And then when she told Martina that she was going to bring it up at the reunion, Martina cried. And Andy's like, then why did you, then why are you telling us? And she's like, well, you know, I needed to clear the ad. and I thought, Adriana is threatening me and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so she says that this whole time, since this happened four years ago, that Adriana has used it to blackmail Julia.

And that she's told Julia, you know, I'm the only reason you're on the show. I'm the only reason these people give a fuck about you. I could, you know, I have this information. I could say that would, you know, make things bad for you. So you better fall in line. You better blah, blah, blah. and it's just like, do I believe that, I mean, we've seen Adriana on camera literally at the Shoma Christmas party saying that Julia, you know, she gave her the idea to do opera and she's ungrateful and she's the only reason she's here. Like, that's a fact that that's something Adriana has said. Do I believe that Adriana spent the last four years blackmailing Julia?

That seems like a little far-fetched. I believe that she has made comments or brought it up in a way that feels poised. but like, I don't know. What's the threshold for blackmail? Does there have to be, does it have to involve like the post, the mail? Where did that term come from? I don't know. I, like, I feel like the truth there is probably somewhere in the middle, but Adriana is never going to admit it. And in fact, she's now throwing out all of these extra allegations against Julia. First of all, the one that I think is the biggest flop is that she, she says that Julia, changed her name and she's like, Julia, tell everyone what your real name is. Tell everyone what your real name is. And it turns out that the answer that she's looking for is just Yulia. She thinks it's some huge

gotcha, some huge red flag that Julia's like given name was Yulia and that now she goes by Julia and that it's like a different identity and she's completely lied about who she is as a person. I'm like, I feel like that's so normal. it's like it's this it's like the same name but like less Russian just like I don't know it's like it's like the difference of like Jesus and Jesus it's like it's the same name pretty much it's like going from like Pedro to Peter like I mean it's like it's not the same but it's also kind of the same and And Andy too was like, okay, so it's like, Yulia, whatever. That was like such a flop.

But then Adriana also says that not only did they sleep together, but Julia also cheated on Martina with a Haitian mortician who she had to buy a coffee maker for to get him to be quiet. And also she slept with a cop. Just like, the Haitian mortician sounds like a character in. clue. It's like, I think, I think the Haitian mortician did it in the parlor with the coffee maker. No, actually, I think the Haitian martyton did it with Julia. Just literally like word salad coming out of everyone's mouth. And it's, it's entertaining, but also I pressed pause at a part of the

episode that really stopped being dead in my tracks, which is when Julia was saying that she misses the friendship with Adriana. And Adriana's response is, you miss the friendship or you miss my pussy? My sweet little pussy? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, even. The fact that that just came out of my mouth, but like the fact that it came out of Adriana's mouth, what are we doing here? And I paused after that moment, because I needed to rewatch it obviously like six times in a row. That was literally 22 minutes into a 42-minute episode. And that was not even the end of the Adriana and Julia discussion.

Like, this really derailed the reunion. And after, I mean, when we finally moved on and, you know, we covered a little bit of Kiki and her situation and some more of Stephanie and Alexia's stuff, I was like, okay, so that was like an entertaining 30 minutes, I guess, but like, in terms of the group moving forward, I don't really think it did anything. And especially if Julia is potentially not on next season of this show,

we just spent 30 minutes hashing out whether she cheated on her, well, she did cheat on her wife, but then she maybe was blackmailed about it, but then she ended up revealing it to make Adriana look bad. It's like, at a certain point, like, what are we, What are we doing here? What's the point? Sorry. Sorry. Um, what? I don't know. I mean, I think that the, the fact that Julia is very clear that she and Martina do not have an open relationship, but we know that she has cheated on her with at least one person. If you believe Adriana, perhaps three or more, it's like, I don't actually think this is making Julia look very good.

And I think it's weird, you know, there's some weird dynamic in the group where they're like, oh, well, like, if Adriana went after a married woman, then it's just about, it's like, go after anybody. If Julia and Adriana were sharing a room on the Hampton's trip and they, like, canoodled in the bed, I don't think that makes Adriano, like, a homewrecker. I think that makes Julia, like, sloppy. I don't know. I mean, it's complicated.

People always have, like, their own, like, very specific lens of cheating stuff, but it's just like, oh, what a mess. What a mess. And, like, I enjoyed watching it, but also, like, what a mess. We have one more part. I'm going to be on vacation next week, so we will have an episode on Friday. I won't get to talk about next week's Housewives episodes in real time, but we're going to talk about Wife Swap, which is premiering next week, and also some listener questions, which I had a fun time getting into. But when I am back, trust and believe, I'm going to have like eight things to watch.

And we're going to talk about at least most of it. No promises. Oh, my God. What a time to be alive, though. What a time to be a Bravo fan. And our next segment is All the Rage, brought to you by Angry Orchard Hard Sider. Life's too short to keep things bottled up, especially when there are way juicier things to obsess over. We're unpacking the Bravo drama that has us spiraling this week in the best way possible.

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and so we are like here, there's like this weird you know underground current of tea going on because you know when Katie left the show a few episodes back like

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I think that that feels important. I think that that feels correct. I think, Andy, if you're putting together what we're doing at the Bravo's or at Watch What Happens Live, squash that beef with Tamara and Sheena. Because it's the kind of thing where we don't even really know necessarily like what the beef is or where it started or what the details are. But it just feels like there is so much there. It is fertile soil for beef to grow. I know that beef actually comes from cows, which are not like a crop that grows out of the ground,

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