Mention It All - Diana’s Point Of No Return Ft. @facetune (RHOBH Reunion, RHOSLC)

Episode Date: October 13, 2022

Dylan sits down with Charlee and Callina, the faces behind @facetune, to discuss this week’s Housewives doubleheader. They start with the RHOBH reunion, where Crystal struggles to get her point across, and Diana falls flat in her crusade against Garcelle. Later, they discuss how RHOSLC’s small cast is affecting the dynamics this season, and whether Lisa or Meredith is more to blame for the current drama. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All. A Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer. And today, I'm excited to be joined in the studio by Charlie and Kalina, who you know better as the people behind FaceTune. Hi, ladies.

Welcome, welcome. Thank you for having us. It is so fun to have you guys here. FaceTune, we were talking a little bit before we got on the. air. But in the last year or so, FaceTune has become such a presence on social media. And we know that at FaceTune is a fan of the Housewives, just like we are. And so I was excited, you know, it's always fun to like DM and stuff, but I was excited to actually get to chat and, you know, meet you and talking, you're going to BravoCon and it's all happening. We're going to be at BravoCon.

We will be walking around, obsessing over the Housewives, just like every other fan. It feels lately like FaceTune has become this like just stay on account for Bravo and like just get on board because like we're here. Exactly. And like we're not going anywhere. We're not. We're really excited. We were like, we're doing this.

Let's bring FaceTune. IRL. Here we are. Yeah. We had a nice little interaction on social media just last week. When Lisa Rina, you know, biggest bully in Hollywood. The biggest. posted her M&M picture and, you know, she said put me on pause.

and FaceTune commented that Lisa Rinnah did not put FaceTune on pause in her reunion photo. That reunion photo, she took all the tools and was like, I'm just going to go for it. And I'm just going to own it and live my best life. We love a user who makes full use of the platform. Use all the tools. And if that's what makes you feel good and makes you feel confident, go for it. Like, who am I to stop you from feeling your best? You do you, babe.

You do you. It is funny. Like, Lisa Rina is in this interesting place where I feel like she, the Lisa Rina look is so iconic, but it feels like she's constantly like pushing away from that with like the wigs and the makeup and the face tune of it all. But it's like, then just, why doesn't she just cut her hair? Or like get extensions. Like, it's always a costume.

It's always a costume. It's always a look. But we all do that. We all dress up every day. And it's like, RuPaul, it's like, we're all born naked and the rest is drag. Like, yeah, she's in full drag. And like, she is. She is not afraid.

She just wakes up and she's like, who do I want to be today? I'll put on the heather wig. Like, I love that they have names also. There are so many. Yeah. They're iconic now. What do you think of these Beverly Hills reunion looks? I feel like it was a little bit of, when they dropped on social media,

First of all, I think with the photos were such a mess this year. There was not a concern. Like, I don't understand. At the beginning of the day, why do you not have a photographer that's there to line up all eight women and just take a photo? Why are we getting a facetune selfie of Rina? Erica, a photo that she took in the trailer. Like, I don't understand. There also seemed to be some weird filter over most of them.

That was not FaceTune. You're like, the Vaseline on the lens was not the FaceTune. No, that was like the Sheen-A-Sos version. But, no, it was very like, just give us consistent looks, bring in the photographer, do the shoot, bring us in, we'll do it. Like, we got you. But no, it was very just all over the place. But, like, very, everyone, it wasn't cohesive. Yeah, and that's what I was missing.

I'm like, what is the theme that we're going on here? Like, usually there's some, like, theme that we're seeing. And this time I'm like, it's giving, some are giving toddlers and tiara. Yes, Erica, where are we?

Yeah, full toddler. Erica, the thing is, though, like, it's not Erica's best, but at the same time,

I appreciate, I appreciate the vision, whereas, like, some of them feel so low effort. Yeah. And like, you know,

Rina and a leopard dress is not breaking any boundaries. Yeah, we've seen that. No, I wanted, take more risks. And like,

I think the person I was most disappointed by was Dorit. We've just seen so much better from her that, like, girl, come on. And like, the season finale looks, everyone served. It was like, bring that. Yes. That's what I pointed this out on social media last week that it's like every time they have a party or an event on the show, everybody looks like 10 out of 10. amazing. Even if it's not my personal favorite dress, it really, I get the concept or whatever

that they were going for. And then the reunion, it's like, it just feels like a lack of effort. Derreets braid ponytail necklaces tied together. One sleeve. Like, Derreet's looks are always over the top, but usually I find them over the top in like a fun, exciting way. And this one, it's like, why are there so many trinkets on your ponytail? No, like, I think her best one, her best look, was the one with all the clips. Like, I wish I could recreate that for myself, but like, no, I can't. We brought clips. We brought clips.

Maybe do that. Right. We want to try. Day two of BravoCon. You're going to be like, high pony clips. Everywhere. But, like, Dorit, I know you can do better. Like, she gave us, like,

minimum effort this season or like storyline and everything after like the real tragedy of the break in and everything and if we want to like start actually talking about the reunion we can but like give us like a look like showstopper like all eyes on you the eyes were on her for sure

but I don't know if best of it yeah with the going back in starting with part one of this reunion we really did start from the beginning. And this season felt so long. And the robbery storyline feels so far in the past. It was kind of like, okay, like mentally, where were we?

Okay, great. The robbery. And I mean, I'm glad that it seems like she's been able to work through some of that stuff. But at this, like, it wasn't that beyond the initial kind of shock of it. It's like, okay, like, I hope you're doing well. I don't have that much to say about. Right.

I think it was amazing and very vulnerable of her. actually show us the process of therapy. And that's a different side of Dorete that we haven't seen yet in all the seasons that she's been on. But I feel like she kind of got lost in the background this season. But I think that also happens when you have eight housewives plus friends where like Salt Lake City, we've got like the five main. Yeah.

And so like everyone can really stand out and be themselves. Yeah. There's no place to hide in a cast of five. Exactly. There was a lot of place to just like fade into the background. Yeah. And there were so many storylines, but like not even even on the show. There was like more drama, I think, on social media this season that like we really like were living.

It was like this meta kind of thing that we were all living. Right. Yeah. Yeah. In this reunion, I was I was surprised because we were kind of in the first part of the season. We didn't even talk about the Sutton and Rina, Elton John tickets. Watch. And like that was a whole thing at the beginning of the season.

It does feel like there was so much noise by the end that it's like everything that happened in the first 10 episodes kind of feels irrelevant. Yeah, I actually forgot that the robbery was even this season. I forgot that Elton John. Yeah. And that was so, like they were trying so hard to make it happen. And at that Harry Hamlin weird birthday lunch. That was, I feel bad for Harry. I know.

He deserved to. How much do you think he's sitting there like, why is this my fucking? 70th birthday. How did I get here? That my wife is yelling about something that happened on Watch What Happens Live at my intimate birthday gathering. Poor Harry. Yeah.

Justice for Harry. The birthday parties were a struggle this season. Obviously Garcells kind of went off the rails. You know, Lisa Rina stormed out of crystals. Right. Erica just. Was a mess. She was a pretty little mess.

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ends June 30th, terms at AKA.m. S slash college PC. What did you think about Diana's appearance on this reunion? Because I thought, I liked,

it was funny to me that as a full-time housewife, they didn't introduce her at the beginning. They were like... I feel like she, like, she also kind of disappeared.

Did they take away her diamonds like halfway through? Like, actually. We're gonna take that back. Thank you. We're repurposing that. Here, Kathy. Here you go.

Like, Kathy was also just a friend, but she had more of a storyline. Like, she was more present than Diana was. Like, no, Diana. We were wondering if she was like green screening last night. What is she reading off of a teleprompter? Like, what, it was something weird. She had cute cards. Asher was reading her those few cards.

Those first few questions that she answered were like extremely prepared response. reading off a teleprompter vibes. Yeah. Which is strange because she was being asked questions and then answering them. And I'm like, why are you so, how are you so robotic about this? Because usually it's like when they're sitting on the couch, there's no chance to be like, you know, you don't have like flashcards in front of you. So it's like, is that why she didn't want to go to the reunion secretly? I know there's all like conspiracies around that.

Right. Like she showed up because like she doesn't want to be fired, put on pause. But like, girl, like, show up. It is a little funny because the question of why she bothered to show up at all, when it seems like she doesn't particularly want to engage with any of this, she's really only directly talking about the situation with Garcel because I think she feels like she has to, like this bot thing that happened so recently compared to the rest of the season. But, but yeah, it's like, it doesn't.

doesn't seem like she really wants to stay on the show. And I don't think most people, it seems like even if she did want to, she would probably not be asked back. So it's like, I might just get that. I feel like we need her back. Like, I'm conflicted. Because I feel like we need her back so that we can like get to know her a little better because you can't get to know someone off of just one season.

Like remember Carlton? Like there's so many housewives. Like we just didn't get to know. And like maybe if they had stayed another season, like we would actually like them. But like, I don't want to see her back. Like, I think, like, the main theme this season that I saw a lot was, like, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Mean Girls. It really felt just like a mean girl's, like, season. And it's just, like, so much bullying.

And I even called Kalina one time. And I was just like, I don't want to watch anymore. Like, I'm invested, so I'm going to. But they're so mean. Every episode is so draining for us as well. And it's just like, I felt like Diana was really, like, brought on by Rina. Because I think she came on because she was, like, friends with Rina. And it was just like, did Rina need, like, another, like, Erica wasn't enough?

Because that was like, I don't want to call them, like, the mean, like, Cinderella step-sisters. But they were really giving that vibe. Yeah. And I think it's very, like, anytime Rina would be saying something, Erica would be like, oh, yeah, you can't do that. Or like, Erica would say something, and Rina's like, mm-hmm, uh-huh, mm-hmm. And so it's like you feel like anytime you're having a conversation with one of them, the other is kind of attached at the hip chiming in on their behalf. And that makes it really hard to have a level playing field.

I think last night we saw Crystal kind of struggling with that, that it was like, I don't think Crystal was doing the best job at articulating and making her point. But it really felt like nobody in the group was actually trying to understand her. They were not trying to hear her at all. They weren't, and I feel like that's a theme with Crystal over the last two seasons, which is like I kind of, I agree with Crystal. They really do downplay her feelings. And like, whenever she's like, yeah, my feelings are valid.

And it's like, yeah, girl, your feelings are valid. And you just keep getting pushed to the side. And I don't know if it's because she's not dominant enough and like can, like is as outspoken as the rest of the women because they're so like, they really built a cast of like very like alpha women. And so Crystal kind of gets pushed to the back. But like I just, I felt bad for Crystal this season. Like everything she's going through and the women just like really just not understanding her. And it was just sad. Like it was sad.

The way that both Derreet and Erica responded to the thing about the eating disorder comments at the reunion, it was so strange to me because Erica basically was like, well, I didn't meet it this way. said what I was saying. And it's like, okay, right. And what you were saying was wrong. Yeah, and she, like, would not admit that at all. Right. And then when Crystal was, like, telling Dorit that she was really hurt by what she said. Dorit was shocked.

She's like, she was like, oh. What? You, what? And it's like, maybe just tone it down a little bit because she's having a really honest moment with you. And you're acting like so. You're acting like you're offended. Yeah.

No, it's not about you. To borrow a phrase for Minna, she was shook. She was shocked. And it's like, you're talking about a really sensitive subject. It shouldn't be that surprising that Crystal was affected by that. Right. And like, she's seeing it also. And like she might have.

And I saw online that people were saying that like, no Crystal laughed at Erica's comments about like you can't have a chicken like nugget or tender or whatever. And it was like, yeah, like it looked like Crystal laughed in the moment. But that might even just be from like uncomfortableness and awkwardness. Like what else is she supposed to do in the moment just like start crying? and run to the bathroom. Like, yeah, she probably did do that. But, like, afterwards, it was, like, they've lost, like, it's just so sad.

And then, like, let's talk about Kyle, like, turning everything about her. That was, like, also a moment. Like, Dorrit was like, yeah, I was, like, burglarized. And, like, they, like, really, like, came for me and, like, had a gun to me. And then Kyle was like, yeah, and that happened to me, too, like, back in the, it was like, nobody I asked you. getting the call about with the guy the photos of her stuff. I'm like, that was the left turn.

Yeah, right. Right. And all of a sudden it's like, that was like how many years ago? Like. Yeah, we were talking about Jereen. She's like, oh, I was robbed too. And now he's like giving me back my stuff and I paid him for my. Erica's like, excuse me.

You paid, you gave this man money? Yeah. Eric is like, I would never give anyone my money or my diamond earrings. She's like, Kyle, why? Kyle, why aren't you giving the money to me? Right. I need it. I'm suffering.

I'm suffering. It is funny how Kyle bringing up her robbery. And then, but she was talking about how Sutton always has the need to bring up her own stuff when somebody else. Like with the miscarriage thing that she had the misunderstanding with Diana. Everything's so back. Like, they're all just, I don't think they're self-aware. Yeah. Not at all.

At all. But I think that's one of the reasons we love them. Yeah. And it's like everybody's, it's kind of like a, this weird cycle of being hypocritical and having these issues. And, you know, they're yelling at Crystal for not saying exactly what Sutton said. But there's this whole thing with the Aspen trip that we haven't even gotten to yet where Rina's not saying exactly what Kathy said.

And she's like, well, I can't say it. Because then it would ruin this thing and this person's life and this person's life. And it's like, Crystal is basically saying. That she's doing the exact same thing, but you're like, now Crystal, don't bring it up if you're not going to talk about it. And then also with Rina, she's like, it's going to ruin everyone's lives. And she's like, but if I don't talk about it, I can't talk about it because it's going to ruin everyone's lives. But if I talk about it, I'm going to get cancer and die. Girl, girl.

I saw some like medical board like debunked what Rina said about cancer. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, that's not how cancer works. Yeah. They're like, okay, we need to talk. And also stop using our name in vain. They're like, she's like, Kathy Hilton is giving me cancer.

I can't, I can't. Like, yeah. I'm excited for Kathy to roll up in her neck down. Her slippers. I want her to walk out in her slippers. Like, I want this. She should sell the slippers. I'll wear them.

I know. I'll buy a pair. I wouldn't wear them like in the airport. No. No. I would actually wear them to like Andy's ball. on Friday night. Yeah, what,

you're like, what's the dress code for Andy's Legends Ball? Actually, it's Kathy Hilton slippers. Yes. A nightgown. Maybe what the Salt Lake's ladies were wearing at the lingerie.

Right. I'm going to pull up in a sprinter van. Whitney Rose, like, turning on the oven in her bra and panties. Oh my God, yes. I appreciate,

I appreciate going for the theme, but Whitney, like, stomping around the house in fully underwear for the whole night was a lot. It was very much so. I love how Bravo editors and just like, whoever plans the schedule, like, deserves an Emmy in their own right?

Because we're going from, like, the Mean Girls of Beverly Hills straight to, like, Salt Lake City, which is just like a breath of fresh air after that with, like, Lisa and Jen and Meredith and, like, Heather. And they're just all over the place and having, like, a lingerie party. in the middle of like Arizona and it's just like thank you thank you for this. The fact that within one day they're doing drunk bike drunk bike bus whatever that is and then like rodeo day with Lisa's Dior boots. Oh my God. And then lingerie party. I'm like how many hours have you been awake?

Yeah. All of the looks last night. We were like, what is happening here? What is happening? We went from like flamenco dressing. to like lingerie. And then like last week we had the shaman like chanting. And I was just like, they're taking us for a ride.

Yes. They have really gone all out with the activities on this trip. And I feel like with a cast of five, like we were talking about, you have to put in, it takes more effort to kind of keep the momentum going because when you have 10 women on the trip on Beverly Hills, there's always something going on. You know, like there can be a side conversation. That we don't see or gets recorded. Right.

The group can split into two and there's, you know, multiple storylines to follow. But the fact that this trip in Scottsdale is really just the five of them, it feels like there's so much, like the tension is kind of so tight because it's like if Meredith and Lisa can't get on any kind of better foot with each other, the whole group kind of hinges on everybody being able to be together. and if you have this like irreparably broken friendship, all of a sudden it's like, okay, is it like three and two or four and one? And like who's who's on the outside? Like it's very difficult when there's only five people to really not to have these like big feuds in the group. Right.

And it's also so confusing because last season we had Jen and Meredith like at each other's throats and now they're like best friends and like braiding each other's hair. And, like, we're just taken, like, they're just giving. They, like, showed up, like, season one even and just, like, understood the assignment of what it means to be a housewife these days. Mm-hmm. Like, they're giving. Yeah.

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Your next obsession is waiting. Watch only on Prime. What's your current vibe on Meredith and Lisa? Who do you think is like more right or more wrong or needs to make more of an effort? We were talking about this because we love them both so much for like everything they both give individually. Like I live for Lisa and her like one-off comment. or showing up with like her 7-Eleven big gulp, like, or just like wanting Taco Bell, like first thing.

Like, I'm such a Lisa Stan. And then also like I'm obsessed with Meredith as well. Not even for like the face tune of it all. But like, I feel like I can't talk about Maritor without bringing it up. Right. So first of all, iconic use of face tune. No, really iconic. But then, like, I just want them to get along.

I just want them to be friends. Like, I need them to be friends. Like, in my own, like, fantasy football, housewife league that I have going on, like, I need them to end the season. But, like, also, after every episode and during the episodes, they are, like, live tweeting how much they, like, hate each other and shading each other. And I'm just, like, girls. Yeah. Yeah. It's sad.

It's so sad. I just want them to... It feels like Meredith and Lisa, if they could get past this big thing, this big obstacle. Yes. They could be dynamic duo. Right. Or even like on Potomac, the way we see Karen and Chazelle constantly kind of bickering, then making up, then having like a fun moment together. And then sometimes they hate each other and are being so mean.

But like at the end of the day, it always feels. feels like there's a chance for them to come back together. Right now, Meredith and Lisa just feel like they're in such a dark place with each other that they aren't kind of willing to move forward. And seeing on this episode, both Whitney and Heather kind of taking turns like pleading with Meredith to be like, don't you just think you could start to maybe start to kind of forgive Lisa just a little bit? It's like the group needs it too. Because if we're going to have a lot of, if we're going to have 20 episodes this season and every episode is like, Lisa, I appreciate your apology, but it's really just never going to be enough. It's like, at a certain point, maybe then you're

starting to be the problem. Yes. And it also, it just made me laugh last episode, like last week where Meredith was like, so I'm not going to talk about her behind her back, but like, this is what I heard about her. And I'm just like, girl, now you're just like really setting yourself up. And like this week also like Whitney was like, okay, so like, yeah, Meredith was telling me what she said about you. And I'm just like, Whitney, like everyone, everyone's a critic. Everyone's getting involved. And like, I know that's the beauty of it all. Like, of course they're going to get, we want them to get involved. But like, I'm tired. Meredith and Whitney are really like tossing the hot potato back and forth of who was, of who was actually spreading rumors about Lisa. And it's like,

I hate to tell you, it might be both of you. It's both of them. They're also like tag teaming. It's like, okay, who's going to bring it up during this like, this, right? Yeah, this part. Right. And Lisa, Marit. No, God, all the names sometimes in my brain, I'm just like, I have like 50 women's names just like cycling around.

But Whitney is like, Meredith said she heard the rumor about the jazz tickets. And Meredith's like, I never heard the rumor about the jazz tickets. I heard the rumor about the sexual favors for Vita tequila. But I'm not going to say that. I didn't hear that rumor. And it's like, okay, but like we saw on camera both of you bringing rumors to the table. So at the end of the day, when Lisa sits down and watches this footage, she's going to be mad at both of you. She's going to be mad.

And also like, it makes me, okay, also like, does every housewife now have a tequila line? Like, Kathy. Kathy really came out of nowhere this year. I didn't know it existed. I wouldn't have ordered it until I knew about it. Now I'm going to go order it. But like, I didn't know about it. So like, yeah.

Have you ever had Vita? No. Now I'm going to. I've like taken a peek sometimes. I've never seen it in the store. Interesting. I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm not in Utah.

So maybe it's. True. Maybe in like the Mountain West region. It's very prominent. We'll have to do a shot together this weekend. I know. Will it be at BravoCon? I'm sure.

Ooh. Does Lisa have a booth? She'll be standing there giving out examples. I think Whitney's going to have a Wild Rose Beauty booth. I think so also. And I know Meredith, I think, has a booth. Oh, yeah. I saw someone, she did like a pop-up, something.

But I saw Gibson posters. Yes, yes, Gibson Johns. Meredith's brand at this point is so funny because she has, like, expensive jewelry and then, like, T-shirts. Like Housewives merch. It's all over the place. She's like, Rih- She's like, Rihanna's worn my jewelry.

And here's my, I'm engaging sweatshirt. Okay. No, like, everyone's like, she by sheree. And then we've got, like, the candles. And we've got just like, we're all over the place. I feel like the Bravo Bazaar, I think it's called at BravoCon. Oh, yeah. It's going to be popping.

There's so many more businesses now than there were. a few years ago. And if you don't have a line, like, are you a housewife? Yeah. Actually, fun tip, if you're listening to this and you're going to BravoCon this weekend, in 2019, that was the place to see people up close because the people that had their products there knew they would sell more products if they were like at the booth. Makes sense.

Like Craig was like shilling the pillows all weekend. Of course. And, you know, whoever, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, the lover boy booth like Kyle was like shaking every hand, you know, kissing babies. Like, so like if you're, if you're at BravoCon and you're like thinking, okay, where am I going to see people like actually present and like showing up?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Selling the product. That's where they'll be. Yeah. I heard that Carl, Kyle and Amanda are going to be like really involved at the lover boy booth. I hope so.

I really hope so. They're like, love them. But I really want to cut Kyle's mullet. Yeah. It's not great. Yeah, I'm not really here for it. The mullet trend is concerning.

I feel like every time I'm on TikTok, I'm like, just getting there with the scissors. Yeah, no. Every time I see his Instagram stories, I'm just like, let me just, that could be a, that could be a panel. Like, highest bidder gets to cut the mullet. Like, I want to ask Amanda, like, what are your thoughts? Like, tell us. We can raise my mind. money for my hand and yours.

The homeless, not the toothless. The toothless, not homeless. Oh, Charlie, homeless, not toothless. Come on, say it with. Say it with us. The charity section of the Beverly Hills reunion was really, really great. It was, it was, yeah. The season of charities.

The season of charities. And I feel like next season, they're going to come back with even more. I thought Doreet was going to start crying when Jamie Lee was, like, oh my gosh. I have renamed. She's like, Doreet. Your genuine enthusiasm changed my company forever. And we've renamed Dorets chic wind chime.

Very moving. I want one of those wind chimes. So do I. I saw that Evan Ross Katz posted that he got one and I was just like. Yeah, they were sold out for a while after the episode. You know what? Like showing up, that was like the best. for all of these charities, I think.

I had never heard of the homeless, not toothless. I had never heard of like... I don't think anyone really had. Dorey's dentist was like the only person. Literally. But like, this was the season of charities. And like, but Jamie Lee Curtis last night, like, I loved that she came on. And like, actually told...

I think we all knew that this was like the biggest thing for that charity ever. And like the power that the show has. Because like, we all know the power that the show has. because like we all know the power that the show has with the fan base. Like sometimes the fan base of just Bravo in general feels like a cult. I am part of this cult. So I feel comfortable saying that. But it was very much like a PR move for like Halloween kills and like,

okay, fine, I'll go watch the movie. I'm not mad at it. I'm like, whatever. They didn't oversell it. It's not like Nikki Minaj coming on Potomac for like a 30 minute segment. Like she was there for a few. minutes. She gave the girls some pumpkins. She's like, when those

rolled out, I'm like, okay. I don't know if that's like a great gift to me. Also, because they filmed this in like September. So they're getting like jackalantons with their faces on them that are going to be rotten weeks before Halloween. Right. They did not take this home. No. There's no way.

It's still sitting in their dressing. Right. Doree took like two photos of it and was like, that's lovely. Could you throw it away? Yeah. This was the she Shekest pumpkin and now take it. She's like, Jamie Lee, thank you so much for the pumpkin. And for renaming your charity after me. When Jamie Lee's, like, it's now the chicest children's charity. I'm like, those capital C-Hs don't actually look that pleasing to the eye.

Not at all. I think it was also in the comic sans font. Yeah. There's something like beautifully ironic about them calling it the chicest children's charity. when the branding is actually like quite pedestrian. But I'm glad they're raising money. So am I. And I'm actually happy that all of these charities got the moment that they deserve to.

Genuine. I'm genuinely. Yes. They had to balance out the like K-Mi-Ros and the Mee-Girls. We're actually like we support charities. Yeah. And you know, Diana's donating lots of money to charities because, you know, the victims and the kids and who, you know. I feel like that is like also such a PR move on her part because with the,

the bots of it all and like knowing how she kind of is like being perceived, then her being like, but I gave money. Yeah. I'm nice. What are your thoughts on Diana and the bots? My thoughts on the bot comments. Before last night's reunion, I didn't necessarily feel super strongly about thinking

Diana was behind it, just because, like, I don't know. Yeah. I feel like it's one of those things where I think she could have done it, but because I don't have any inside information, I'm like, I don't want to get a cease and desist. Like, I don't want to be slapped with the lawsuit. But watching last night and watching the way Garcel kind of handled that and the way Diana handled it so poorly, I'm like, I would 100% believe that Diana had something to do with that.

The fact. Because she came across, like, so kind of just inconsiderate and, like, not understanding why Garcel was so upset. That and also the fact that, like, she went and got a cease and desist. It's like, what are you hiding? Like, she's hiding something. I really, truly feel she was involved in some aspect of it. And I think Garcel really, like, held herself with grace yesterday and composure when, like, if those bots had come for like my child like I would have gone off like Harry Hamlin

don't talk about my husband like yeah and it was tough I think because like some of the other women it felt like they were kind of trying to explain Diana's perspective and Garcell's like excuse me. Shut the fuck up like I'm talking about my like teenage son like I think there needs to like I'm happy that Andy said what he said I'm happy that Bravo came out with a statement when they did, like when this was all going down. But I really think like there needs to be like a, the children need to be kept out of this.

Like, except for Phoenix who really should be given a diamond already. Like she. We like seeing the kids in like a fun light, but it's like leave it there. Leave it there. I am also excited that like Brooks is coming out with like a like show for. And the interview show. Yeah. Like I feel like that's like the behind the scenes that we need.

especially from like Teresa's kids. Yeah. Like I'm excited. I'm not not intrigued. Yeah. I'm not 100% sold on like Brooks as an interviewer, but. I want to show just the kids of real housewives. Yeah.

Like a girl's trip kind of vibe. Yes. There's a panel. But there's like. There is a panel. Oh, we're going. We're going. But there's like something when like,

the fact that like Brooks is interviewing them, they're coming on, they're like wanting to do that. That's on them and like they signed up for that. But like Garcell's sons did not sign up for the show. They're just there as like supporting their mom, supporting characters to her and like leave the kids out of it. Like whoever hired these bots like who was that kid that like everyone thought it was him? Because like he also leaked Kathy or. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I don't remember, something, whatever. Yeah, not important. He follows me. He's going to come for me. He uses face tune, I'm sure. Yes. Everybody does.

Everyone does. But it's just like, leave the kids alone. And like, Diana, if you did it, just apologize, stop paying them. Lay off the bots.

And like, put your tongue back in your mouth and like, let's move on. Like, but Garcel really handled herself. Like, Garcel was everything. Garcel was, yeah. Yeah.

I think when Garcel kind of got to the point where she was like, I'm not going to keep responding to you if you're going to keep just like parroting back these things that are misinterpreting what I'm saying and not taking me seriously and not actually answering my questions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Get X out her Zoom window.

Put her on mute. Cute cards down. Cute cards down. Oh, no. Asher, your job is done now. Yeah. No, I hope Asher, at least, Diana's not coming to BravoCon. No.

No, she's not. Maybe Asher will come do that with Luanne and like Erica Jane. That I would go to. Wait, somebody figured out. So Lisa Rina got last minute added. And then Kathy was out. And then Kathy's back in. So I think at this point, out of all the current Housewives on Bravo,

Diana is one of only like two or three that's not going to be there. Right. And I think Jen's not coming. Jen shot. Yes. It's Diana and Jen shot, which like. Yeah. Jen might be going to jail.

The house. It is kind of funny looking at the, um, the BravoCon schedule and seeing the Salt Lake panel and it's just the four of them. I'm like, wow. Just looking at all the schedules. Because also they keep changing. And so I'm like, this is like, like New Jersey. Jersey split. Two parts now.

Yeah. Because it was supposed to be the women and the men. And then it's like, okay, half the couples and then the other half the couple. It's like, can we just put it back because that's where like, that's what we want. That's what we want. I know. It's like such a, I feel like I do not envy who, whose ever job it is to be managing kind of the schedule. But like, I feel so bad.

I feel like a lot of demands are probably being made behind the scenes. For sure. Yes. And it's more than like dressing room demands. It's like I cannot be in the same hall or floor or room or like. We can't have. them doing press at the same time. Not the same makeup person.

I need a new FaceTune app so we can't use the same one. It's like fully like split divorce. Like, yeah, no, but. That's why I'm excited for the Legends ball because they're all going to be there and we need like squash that beef. We need to squash the beef. We need everyone to just like come together, shaman circle. Like. Drink your cacao elixir.

Right. Let's light a three wick candle and like, let's be. good. Amazing. Well, yes. Guys, thank you so much

for coming. This has been so fun. This has been incredible. We're definitely going to be back. Okay. Amazing. Open invite. I'll see you this weekend at BravoCon.

And yeah, everybody go download FaceTune. Yes. And we didn't tell him to say that. And follow at FaceTune on all the socials because it's a lot of fun. We all just love housewives.

We're shady with a ton of love. Exactly. Yes. And that's the vibe we all need. We need to be shady. We all are shady. But like we love and you do you. Amazing.

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