Mention It All - Don’t Blow A Casket (RHONJ, RHOD)

Episode Date: March 4, 2021

Bari and Dylan are back to recap two eerily similar housewives trips. RHONJ is still at Lake George, and while Teresa is excellent at pranking her brother, she’s not so great at understanding why Ja...ckie is mad at her. Meanwhile, the Dallas ladies are still in Austin, and while Kary and D’Andra have patched up their issues for now, Brandi seems determined to create new problems with Tiffany. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:37 We don't say that, but now we said it. With Dylan Hafer. Who don't check me, boo? And Barry Rosenfeld. I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep, we. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I'm Dylan Hafer. And I'm Barry Rosenfeld. How you doing? You know, I'm doing fine. I'm pulling through. I really thought today was Friday when I woke up. So that was a tough, a tough hump to get over. But here we are.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Especially since it's payday. And so it's not Friday and it's not payday. So that's a double, unfortunate. That's terrible. Wow. Okay. Well, now I have something to look forward to at least, I guess. Oh, yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I will say I didn't watch New Jersey last night. I just like, I like was really tired and I was like, okay, I guess I'll watch it. And then I kind of like put my head down and it was like 9.15 and I was like, I have to save it for the morning. It was a great episode. So it was a good way to start the day. Let's just get right into it. Shall we? So this episode, we are picking back up at Lake George. Obviously, we've just had the first dinner where Teresa is basically like clearly not in the mood to apologize to Jackie. She's like, yeah, fuck Jackie. Like she talked about my daughter. So it's a new day. It's a new day in like George. And everybody seems to be in good spirits. Yeah. I am in agreement with the other ladies. I'm glad they're handling this the right way. But we cannot talk about this situation anymore. Like, Teresa is trying to tell them that she's right. They are all trying to tell her that she is not right. And it is actually wild. So I'm thinking in my head, is Teresa watching this? because maybe when you watch it from a different viewpoint,
Starting point is 00:02:29 like you'll, she'll maybe understand, but I in my head cannot understand how she thinks in any way, shape or form she is right in this situation. Like, it is just mind-boggling. I agree. I can't.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I can't. I agree. And all, but the thing is from the opposite angle, I also think Jackie is like a little bit the same. Where when they're calling her, it's kind of like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:02:54 like it would make things a lot better if she just said like sorry I said Gia does cocaine like I see I definitely like I think both of them are kind of being stubborn here. Teresa obviously started it but I do I do think it's hard because Jackie's not on this trip it's like we're not actually going to make any headway here like because Teresa's not going to call Jackie she's not going to call Evan while they're on this trip so it's like, why don't we just find something else to talk about? And then you and Jackie can, like, duke it out once you get back to Jersey.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Right. I think that I might pay money to watch Teresa call Evan if that ever happens. Like, they could, like, make money on that because that's something I would definitely sign up for to hear or see or whatever it is. But when they were talking about that, I was like, I can't even imagine Teresa calling Evan Goldschneider. Like, I can't imagine, like, what they would say to each other, like, how that would go. Even just, like, they are just on such different frequencies as people. I can't imagine it.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yes. But so they're, honestly, they're having, like, a really fun day at the lake. They go to this little, like, like, waterside restaurant thing. They're having some drinks. They're talking about sex. And they're going on this teaky boat, which looked scary to me, but I guess fun. I would like to go on this trip with them. I would.
Starting point is 00:04:24 The tiki boat I would maybe opt out for because it seemed a bit rocky for me. But it's fine. It looked fun. But it was in. It felt like one of those boats where it's basically just a raft on the water with like a bar. It didn't look sturdy is what I should say. But they, it was interesting because, you know, when Melissa and Teresa get some drinks in them, they start like having fun and talking and they were talking about this one night that Joe went out and bumped into Teresa.
Starting point is 00:04:51 and they happened to have gone to a strip club together, but neither one of them told Melissa, they were both like, I'm not telling her, I'm not telling her. So they decided to play a prank back on Joe, which by the way, I just want to call this out, during all of the commercials
Starting point is 00:05:05 and all of the previews for this episode, I knew this was not real. I knew, I don't know about you, but I knew that this had some, I didn't know like the background behind it, but when they kept saying, like, your wife has been texting, I was like, there's no fucking way.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Like we would, we would have known about this. Like, this seems like bizarre. But like, like, I will say I did not think about it that hard before the episode. So I kind of just took it at face value. And I was a little bit annoyed when we finally kind of got to this point. And I was like, oh. Yeah, I didn't. It's not like I thought about it.
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's that they showed the same preview like 18 times. And I was like, okay, we get it. We're going to tune in. Thank you so much. So when they were showing this in the preview, I kept thinking like, oh, she's going to with another marriage. But like, she doesn't hate Joe and Melissa that much. And I should have known that. Like, she has her issues with, with Melissa, but she's not like out to ruin her life. Yeah. She, she, she texts. She texts. She texts, if we're going to do Teresa. She texts is her brother, Joe and says that Melissa got the number of the owner of the restaurant. They've been texting all day. So Joe, they call like one of that, they call each other. And now Joe is speaking in Italian. And Melissa is like, oh my God, like he believes. her like he because he doesn't want he's like freaking out but teresa making this phone call was the most impressive thing i've ever seen and then melissa was like okay tell us how you
Starting point is 00:06:35 really feel because she didn't stop for like five street minutes she was just going and going and going with this lie but it was all in good fun obviously but it was like a little too uh like she's it was like she's her she knows a little bit too much what she would say if this was a real situation. She's like, well, you know how Melissa is? She's so flirty and then she's talking and like, no, I wasn't watching her the whole time. Like, how am I supposed to know?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Oh, my God. Joe is getting really heated and yeah, it was so hilarious to watch because you can tell that there's just like one little ounce of truth in there of like Teresa kind of wishes she could do this for real to Melissa. You just hit it
Starting point is 00:07:17 spot on when you said like she had in her head what she would say if like she needed to. This was like her ammo. But when Margaret said, I'd never thought I'd put these two words in the same sentence. Teresa is a genius. I laughed out loud on my couch because it was so good. And to be honest, I have to say, to Jennifer, which what the hell, this voice of reason
Starting point is 00:07:41 came from so out of left field that I, I, I'm almost not liking it, but I love it. She had a good point because she said, we're on. Jackie is not on this trip because of what went on with the cheating and rumors and talking about her. So we're going to even joke about this right now with another couple. Like, are you guys kidding? And I was like, Jennifer, namaste. This is like a new side. A little bit like it's almost like Jennifer and Dolores have switched roles for a second because
Starting point is 00:08:18 Dolores is the one who's like, I don't get why Jackie's upset. Like, Teresa just said so, like, if it's not real, just move on. And I'm like, Dolores, like, Jackie has a right to be upset that Teresa is like spreading cheating rumors. It is funny, though, seeing Jennifer this season so far, I commented on it in the first episode, how it was funny that she wasn't really involved in the drama. But it's weird to see now three episodes in that she still is kind of like holding Teresa accountable a little bit and not just kind of because last season it was so like she was
Starting point is 00:08:52 like Teresa's soldier almost that it was like whatever Teresa needed she was going to be like very loud and vocal about and but here's the thing so she's involving I know we have other stuff to talk about too but since we're on Jennifer she's involving herself now in drama which is what I've been waiting for to be honest and she's claiming so she's talking to Dolores and she's claiming that her and Melissa, you know, have kind of like moved past their issues, but she was saying how she heard a rumor. And I was like, Jennifer, were you not the one just saying they shouldn't be talking about rumors? Like, what's going on? She told Dolores, while Melissa was in the bathroom right next to them, that Michelle, who is this common
Starting point is 00:09:32 denominator now, Teresa's realtor and they all know each other, that Joe Gorga owes him money. And it's like tens of thousands of dollars. But in her defense, it kind of seemed like she wasn't talking shit a little bit. She was kind of asking Dolores for advice of what to do because her and Melissa just made up and now she has this information. I agree. It's interesting because
Starting point is 00:09:57 from when they were filming, I know that Michelle was somebody who they were kind of filming with. She was maybe going to be in the cast. Obviously, she didn't end up really making the main group. But it's interesting because if this ends up being more of a storyline, it's going to be like, okay, like, can we hear from Michelle?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Like, if she's there. But it's so funny that this, I didn't know if it was like a real estate thing. I had heard like an inkling of this storyline. The fact that it stems from Michelle's husband speaking at Joe's like growing with Gorga, like personal, like a self-help event is so funny to me. And it's also hilarious that Jennifer brings up something, which I didn't think we were going to hear about on the show, which was when Joe,
Starting point is 00:10:44 posted these kitchen renovation photos on Instagram and they were like, you know, supposedly something that his company had done. And then it was found that these were just like random photos from online that were not his. And I love that Jennifer brought this up in the confessional because it's one of those things that it's like, ah, yes, I remember when that happened on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:11:06 What a great little moment. I do remember, but they're the type, like, can we save Melissa and Joe? Like, in that, in this fact for all New Jersey, like we love everyone on New Jersey. I think we do, right? Like, we love, like, I don't, I don't like, pretty much. I love all of them to the point where, like, I wouldn't want something like that to ruin, like Joe and his company. You know what I mean? Because he's like, he's been with us forever. Yeah. Now that, now that Beverly's gone, I would say I pretty much am a fan of everyone on Jersey. Yeah. So it's funny. Like, this is something where it's, we don't know yet kind of where it's
Starting point is 00:11:44 going to go or how it's going to unfold. But it is nice that we kind of now have one dramatic plotline that's not related to Teresa and Jackie, because we can sense so far that that has been kind of the thread, but it feels like it's getting strained already. Girl, winter is so last season. And now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. that perfect hang on the patio sundress, those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. So then we're back at the house. But before we get to dinner, let's talk about the guy's poker night,
Starting point is 00:12:41 which I mean, these scenes really just make real houseways of New Jersey. is he what it is. Nowhere else can we see all the husbands in one of their basements eating sushi. Frank, Frank eats a big thing of wasabi and his face is just absolutely priceless. I know. I was like, guys, like maybe give him some water. Like, I don't think he doesn't look like he can handle that much wasabi.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Like, he was as bright as red as a tomato and sweating. I was like, Frank, did you not know what wasabi like is or does or like what it's for? I don't understand. But yeah, these guys together that I would have rather watched them for another 20 minutes, to be honest, because their vibe was just so fun and loose and, like, relaxing, except, I don't know. It stressed me out a little bit, I should say. Also, Melissa and Joe's basement, he goes, go straight through the wine room to the right.
Starting point is 00:13:41 And there's the poker room. I was like, what the fuck? Like, why are they moving out of this house, first of all? I would want to stay there forever. It seems like a fairy tale. Well, I need the full floor plan because I want to know where this is in relation to Melissa's recording studio. I don't know. I don't know if that's still down there or if that was swapped out for the poker room at some point.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I think that actually sounds like a good possibility, to be honest. Wait, actually, I think I looked at the real estate listing when they were selling the house. And I think the recording studio was still there, if I recall correctly. there's probably a screenshot like deep in my camera roll maybe I'll find it but yeah it's it's interesting at this poker night Evan is not there and kind of the biggest development is that Joe Margaret Margaret's Joe says Joe Benino he says that he heard rumors about Evan too like kind of like what Teresa was sharing but to me it's unclear if he means he heard it like before Teresa had said something or if he means that he's just kind of like heard other people talking about it generally because at this point it's like out there in the open so I don't know my take on that was that if Evan said no to you guys just being nice and having him come over after he sees this episode I can't imagine I've been hanging out with them like ever again which is like unfortunate but yeah
Starting point is 00:15:09 the fact that Joe kind of like nailed it in that it had he's heard it too again Again, I don't, I'm not to say whether it's true or not. I don't know. I never heard it other than Teresa. But like Frank Katania, now taking a vote at the table of who thinks he has a girlfriend. Oh, and also, sorry, another detail. Frank Katania, how many, like, were there? Like, was there one?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Was there two? What they look like? And Bill's like, Frank wants in on it. Like, Frank wants, like, to know who the girlfriend, potential girlfriend is. Like, he doesn't care if Evan's cheating. He wants to know the details of the women. the alleged women, which is such a typical frank thing to do. Yeah, it's interesting because they do,
Starting point is 00:15:52 this kind of sets the scene for, I feel like we could have some drama between the guys. If Evan kind of catches wind that Joe, I mean, Joe Benino was being kind of messy, like for him to say like, yeah, I heard it. Like, I'm curious to see where that goes. Because obviously Margaret has been very much, um,
Starting point is 00:16:10 a support system to Jackie throughout this. So we'll see. But back in Lake George, we are having dinner, and I love that they've, like, ordered takeout to the house. That's a very relatable pandemic vibe. But again, we're talking about Jackie and Teresa because Margaret and Melissa have called Jackie. And once again, they're like, okay, so Teresa's not going to say she's sorry. So maybe you should say you're sorry. And Jackie's like, no, Teresa doesn't need to say sorry to me.
Starting point is 00:16:42 she needs to say sorry to Evan. And I mean, it's just, it's nobody's being realistic here. I mean, it's crazy because she, you're like they both needed to apologize for the same thing, basically. But Teresa is looking at it differently. She's like, I didn't start the rumor. And they're like, no, but you told everyone in the same vicinity. And you didn't tell Jackie. And you just need to like acknowledge that.
Starting point is 00:17:15 You need to stop saying that Jackie's upset. So there must be something there. No, she's upset because a grown woman said something about her marriage. And like you said earlier with Dolores, like she's like she doesn't. No one's to tell anyone what they can and cannot feel. I think that's very bizarre. Like because you would handle it differently, Dolores. Like obviously we know Dolores has entries.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And Teresa both have been through this in real life. They have. So because you handled it a different way Doesn't mean that Jackie has to handle it that way also But I do have to say that last thing I'm watched it happens live Jackie did again reiterate that she Like meant no harm to Gia
Starting point is 00:17:56 She apologized like it was an analogy She learned her lesson She'll never do that again But she did she was like my I never like Gia herself is not involved in this She goes oh my God I was like Jackie stop She was like
Starting point is 00:18:10 Gia has never done drugs before. I was like, stop talking about Gia and drugs. Just stop. Yeah. I do. Yeah. When Teresa,
Starting point is 00:18:23 so she's calling Jackie weak and spineless. And it's interesting that all of a sudden this is kind of her, her like go-to tactic for talking about Jackie is calling her weak. And, you know, she's just a weak bitch. And I don't, that's why I can't deal with her,
Starting point is 00:18:38 which is just like not actually. how Jackie comes across. But she also is saying that the cheating rumors about Joe, when those happened, they never bothered me. And of course, for the for the hundredth time this season, we get the flashback to Teresa screaming at Kim D about not talking about her marriage. And it's like, Teresa. I don't know what Teresa thinks we haven't seen over the years, but she clearly forgot about
Starting point is 00:19:09 this specific moment. And she says, she has a couple of great little lines this episode. And the first one, I swear to God, I'm going to blow my casket. And you see all of all of their faces. They all look because she was like in such a heated moment making a point. And then like you just messed it up. And everyone just starts hysterically laughing. They can't take you seriously because you can't even like come through 100% because that that was funny.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It was just a typical Teresa line. And then my personal favorite, though, was later at the campfire they're talking about s'mores. And Teresa says, Graham crapper. Like, come on. Like, I think, I feel like that was a slip up, to be honest, because she has to know that it's not. I like a gram cropper and a chocolate. You know, like, it's not. But I'm excited for them, although this trip has been very fun.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Like, I am, I'm, it's time for them to come back to Jersey and like, like, It's time for Jackie to join the crew again. And I want to move on from this. So it'll be interesting to see when they do come back if Jackie is kind of like cool with everyone but Teresa or if there's like bigger issues. Because it's, I mean, it's hard when everyone is on a trip together and you're the only person that's not there. Teresa's acting like everyone is coming for her on this trip, but they're not really. Like honestly, nobody is being that hard on her given the drama. she's caused. I mean, I agree. When she freaked out at dinner, I was like, that this is a bit much.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Like, no one is at no one. Here we go again with the word attack. No one is attacking you. It's called the conversation. It's not five against one. Like when she says they're all assholes and storms away from the table. Immediately Dolores and Jennifer are like, wait, we're not assholes. Like, we didn't do anything. Yeah. I also don't think even the people who did say something are in, they're not wrong. Like you, you can be like either, I know, it's hard because it's Teresa and we can't tell her like how to act or behave, but you could have been like, I don't want to talk about this right now. Let's just enjoy dinner.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But she was like her way of exiting was very typical. Okay. Let's talk about Dallas. Yeah. Honestly, kind of a similar episode. Yeah. They're still on vacation. They go on a boat.
Starting point is 00:21:32 There's, you know, some misunderstandings. So the main kind of dynamic this week is basically Tiffany versus everyone but DeAndra. which there was just some unfortunate shit going on this week. It was kind of tough. Yeah. Like we, when they started off at that dinner and Cameron told Tiffany, she doesn't like to be corrected, I feel like we've just like heard this before.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And part of me is like, okay, I agree because it can get frustrating after a while because Tiffany was like, I'm just, I'm just telling you because like you said it wrong. And I was like, Tiffany, oh my God, okay, but like move on. But Cameron at the same time, I'm sorry. I know I just said can't tell people how to feel. But like she does need to stop being so sensitive with every single little thing. Like, like, I feel like if you say like Cameron that you have a grass scene on your skirt,
Starting point is 00:22:26 she'll be like, well, you know, like I don't appreciate you telling me like I have a grass scene on my skirt. Like that's exactly how I portray Cameron. And it gets it. So I can see how, I'm sorry, that was a terrible example. But I feel like I know. Girl, don't tell me about me skirt. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:40 So I can see both sides in this situation. I can see how Tiffany being as educated as she is find it frustrating that people aren't speaking correctly. But don't, I can also see how it gets annoying to be corrected constantly in front of people. So I, I agree. I think I sort of see, I see Cameron's point for, you know, not like, I'm not like a hundred percent team Cameron, but I do, I get it. And I think Tiffany realizes after kind of the end of this conversation that there are certain instances where it's like, yeah, you don't need to correct Cameron's words.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Like, she's not, you're not like her book editor. Like, she's just talking. Exactly. And I think with Tiffany, like, she says that she, you know, Stephanie's bringing up again her pizza party, which I feel like that has been kind of beaten into the ground. Yeah. But, but I mean, Tiffany really, I think,
Starting point is 00:23:36 does a good job of explaining that she's not used to hosting and that like rules make her feel like she is more in control of what's going on. And I think that is kind of like a perfectly normal explanation. And I think it's, it's good that they can talk about that to get on the same page. But then later in the episode, it's like, we see Brandy's issues with Tiffany, which are just completely made up. And it's like, okay, that's the difference is that like Cameron has an actual reason to sort of feel uneasy around Tiffany because she feels like she's been corrected. Whereas we have the
Starting point is 00:24:11 opposite situation where Tiffany has honestly kind of done more than she needs to do to make Brandy feel comfortable and Brandy is still just like in her head in a way that is really uncomfortable around Tiffany. Yeah. I mean, I see that Brandy doesn't still feel 100% comfortable around Tiffany, which is normal. I mean, listen, she still feels a little bit of anxiety around her, which I get, but because she like did mess up, even though they did make up, like, it'll probably take some time. But what she did with the pills, like, was actually so beyond dumb that I can't even fathom because she, Tiffany didn't do anything in that sort where she was, she literally goes, oh, wait, no, these are just different than what you had on the boat. She in, in who in the world
Starting point is 00:24:59 thought that Tiffany was accusing her of like giving out different pills. And then the way Brandy put her phone down, yeah, the way she put her phone down, I thought something actually, God forbid, it happened. I was like, did she just get new? Like, what happened? And then she goes, okay, fine. I'll just tell you. And I was like, wait, that's what you were just mad about? What? I think, I think it's hard because like you were saying, like, I don't think there's anything, I think it's normal to be kind of in your head. If you've had sort of a weird start with someone or you have this stuff in your past, like, it makes sense that you would maybe be overthinking things or whatever, but there's a difference between being in your,
Starting point is 00:25:39 own head about it and actually, you know, letting that affect your relationship with that person in a way that's really unfair. I mean, Tiffany has been nothing but nice to Brandy. And I actually thought it was kind of unfortunate the way this season started where they basically forced Tiffany to have this like racism conversation with Brandy the first time they were ever hanging out. And I thought that Tiffany actually was super gracious to Brandy and has never really brought it up again. So for it to them be like, for Brandy to say that she doesn't feel like she can be herself around Tiffany and that she's like worried about offending her. It's like, if anything, Tiffany has given you like less reason to be worried than she should. Like if like honestly, Brandy probably should watch
Starting point is 00:26:31 what she says, but Tiffany hasn't said anything to make her feel that way. Like, yeah. Like, if you feel like you have to be like hyper vigilant so that you don't say something racist like that's on you that's not tiffany's fault right but then we also um see them like at dinner and she says dead serious to her do you feel like i feel you're holding back like do you feel weird around me and this was so crazy how tiffany was like i love hanging out with you you're smart you're funny you're like you know make me laugh what do you think about me and I was like oh my god the way that I got chills because but I mean that the end of the episode yeah they cut it off yeah they cut it off that end of the episode I mean
Starting point is 00:27:18 a classic editing technique but the the specific vibe of that table it it sent like a little bit of a chill down my spine because I'm like god damn like okay well because Tiffany kind of from our perspective Tiffany kind of deaded this she was like this is like we're we're good so unless you have a problem with me, let me know. Right. And I think it's at the point where it's like, I get why Brandy maybe has like some kind of trepidation. But at this point, Tiffany has basically gone above and beyond to be like,
Starting point is 00:27:52 girl, you don't have to worry about me. Like, we're cool. So if you still have a problem, then it is 100% your problem. Right. It just sucks because I feel like Tiffany, she's had a couple of sort of like missteps, I guess. this season in terms of like, yeah, like the hosting the pizza party, we've talked about the crickets, like all of that. But in general, I feel like she is bringing so much to the
Starting point is 00:28:17 table as the first season housewife. And it sucks that this drama that she's like consistently swept up in really has nothing to do with her. And it's not because of anything she's actually done. Yeah. I mean, I think that once we get over this hump will be fine and Tiffany will like really start to, I know me too. Like she even said she's really excited to have her talk with her boss next week and like start to work one day a week. And she wants to like start going on lunches with the ladies once a week and like start like making time for herself and her family.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And I'm actually like happy that it's going in this direction. And she's realizing that like she needs to start like living and not dedicating all of her time to her work, even though we appreciate it because she's helping people. but still. Yes. And I think it's one of those things where I actually really liked the conversation she had with Stephanie and Cameron when they were on that hike. First of all, how fucking hilarious that Cameron went to an outdoor middle school and slept in a tent for a month. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Maybe I'm like, maybe I live under a rock, but like I didn't know outdoor schools existed. I don't know. I knew people who went to private schools that were like that did a lot of outdoor activities. I don't know about living in a tent for a month, but I think it's really interesting because Tiffany is really different from basically anyone, career-wise, from basically anyone who's been on housewives are definitely in this cast. And to hear her kind of talk about how she's in an opposite place where Cameron and Stephanie have always kind of just been stay-at-home moms, mostly at home, not really working, and they're both craving more responsibility and, more, you know, kind of stuff going on in their lives. And I think that's the, that's the kind of beauty of these shows and these groups is that these people that don't necessarily have a lot in common in their day-to-day lives can actually like get on the same page and really
Starting point is 00:30:23 understand each other. And I, I wish, yeah, the Brandy dynamic is just kind of like weighing it down at this point. And also this episode, we had a really nice moment with Carrie and Deandra. actually seem to have kind of squashed their beef, which I don't know if that'll last. But like, it's like other than, other than Brandy, Brandy's issues with Tiffany, this cast actually seems to be in a really good place with each other. Seems so. If you ask me, it didn't feel so genuine from Carrie's side. And I could tell you kind of a great. No, but I mean, we'll see. It might just have been like, you know, sometimes people don't feel comfortable in those situations where they are forced and whatever. But I feel. like that was very much needed. Like that moment was needed between the two of them. So I agree.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I hope it stays like that. And you're right. I'm like, wait, the cast can all be friends. It doesn't work like that. That's not good. I actually, I thought it was fun.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I don't, I don't remember them doing this before. How they edited camera or Carrie and Deendra's confessions to show them overlapping saying the exact same things about their friendship. Like, you know, you hurt the people you love most. And like,
Starting point is 00:31:33 we need to just like move forward. stop hurting each other. And like, I do, I agree that it felt a little bit maybe, um, it's like a little bit staged where it's like, okay, we're on the trip. We had our big fight. Like, now we're going to have our moment where we forgive each other. Yeah. So I do think like it'll be really interesting for the second half of this season if that, you know, if that holds up or if it's just like a nice moment that they needed to have on the trip. But I don't know. I, I, I did enjoy this episode. Like, I am enjoying the season of Dallas, but the brandy stuff is just, it's tough. It's like, really, we're doing this again? You know what? She probably felt the same way, and that is why she made
Starting point is 00:32:14 her exit last week. I know. I know. It is interesting, like, watching this, because I mean, Brandy's been on Dallas since the beginning. And so it's weird watching now, knowing that this is like the last season she's going to be on. It's like, she's not actually, uh, she's not making herself look great right now. So we'll see. But this was a fun. episode. We chatted a lot and got a lot. I feel we're like, we got so much done today, but like, we still have so much more to talk about. We're going to be back tomorrow. We're going to talk about the below deck sailing premiere tomorrow. We wanted to have time and Summer House, of course. So yeah, come back tomorrow. And thanks for listening. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe,
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