Mention It All - Don’t Swear On Your Kids, Please (RHOC & RHOP)

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

On today’s episode, Dylan makes it through his last chunk of post-vacation Housewives catchup, discussing the latest developments on Orange County and Potomac. With RHOC in London, Alexis is thankfully benched for a few episodes, leaving Tamra to face the music when it comes to her treatment of Shannon and Jenn. Speaking of Jenn, the gloves are off and the helmet is on for a major confrontation. Over in Potomac, the cast reset is paying off so far, with the new women making a strong impression. Karen and Gizelle are still fighting for pole position with the group, while Dylan tries to unpack who’s behind these cast trips to mid-size American cities. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mentioned All podcast It is Monday afternoon And it has felt like The world's slowest Monday But I am glad to be back Talking about Housewives And we have a lot to catch up on

If you miss last week I established that my catch-up timeline was going to be Salt Lake City in New York last Thursday. So go check that out if you haven't yet. And then today I am getting back into Potomac and Orange County because both of those seasons have been plugging along and I have not gotten to talk about them in a couple weeks. So there have been some pretty major developments.

Orange County and Potomac, two shows that are both just really enjoyable right now. And in different ways, obviously, Potomac, we are now three episodes into the season. It's our little cast refresh is starting to take root. And I am really enjoying some of the new women in the cast right now. And I'm being a little careful because we're three episodes in. For people like Kearnah, who we knew a little bit last season, but like not really, Kearna and Stacey and Vivian is in the mix a little bit and Jazzy is in the mix a little bit.

these people are not our family yet. These are acquaintances that we are starting to familiarize ourselves with. And so I am trying to be entertained. And I am really, really entertained right now, especially by Kearna and Stacey, because I feel like they have very different energies. But both are energies that I am finding to be very amusing coming into the group. And amusing maybe.

doesn't sound like the most, like the highest praise that you could give somebody. And I think that's correct. Like watching Stacey move through the world, this is someone who is going through a divorce and seems very ambivalent about the divorce, or maybe not ambivalent, but like she has her ups and downs. She's seeing this new guy, but she's not seeing very much of him, meaning the clothes are staying on. This guy, T.J. and her, they've been seeing each other for months.

no physical contact. To each their own, but like, oh my God, Stacey, there's a lot to dig into. Meanwhile, Kiarna's just making me laugh. A little note I saw on page 6, sad news, Frank Sr. and Brittany had to postpone their wedding because of fucking hurricanes, Helene, and Milton. Now, there are obviously much more pressing issues

caused by these hurricanes, but let Frank Sr. and Brittany get married. They're planning to get married in a couple weeks on Captiva. It's in Florida, I think. I don't know. It's not in Charlotte where the real hostages of Potomac are vacationing, so I don't know much about it. But they push their wedding to the spring.

I think they're fine, just making the right choice probably. But Orange County, they're on their trip to London, and the level, I know that this is the big trip for Orange County and Charlotte is the little trip for Potomac. But these little domestic trips on Real Housewives lately have just been making me laugh. And I was thinking as they were jetting off to Charlotte, which can't be more than like a one-hour flight from Baltimore, it is kind of funny that we're getting these like little mini triplets. And they have to be so excited about like, we're going to the Queen City.

Oh, Charlotte! Oh my God, we're going to Lake Nune. Norman. Who hasn't wanted to go on vacation to Lake Norman? Look, I don't know anything about Lake Norman. But you know what I do know about Lake Norman is that they are sponsoring this trip on Real House of Potomac. Because I was like, look, there is no way that they are hyping this up so much without

there being some sort of money exchanging hands. And I paused as the little credits come up at the end of the episode. And it says promotional consideration furnished by Stay Lake Norman. And that got me thinking because we just got done. with the Salt Lake City trip to Milwaukee. And I was like, you know what? I would put money on the fact that somebody was being paid to make Milwaukee sound more fun than it is. Again, no shade to Milwaukee.

I'm sure you're doing well in Wisconsin. So I went back and I looked to the credits of one of those episodes. And lo and behold, promotional consideration furnished by Visit Milwaukee and also by the hotel that they were staying in and the casino that they went to. And look, they all do this. Like when you, if you look at the credits for all of these shows, whenever they're on a vacation, whenever they're at like some, you know, big event or something and it's not blurred out, chances are somebody is paying for their thing to be featured on the show. But it is just kind of funny to think about the way that they talk about trips on housewives.

Usually they're kind of framing it in universe as like somebody has a reason to go to this place and they've like invited the girls along. Or it's like somebody's birthday trip. or, you know, it's somebody, Whitney got booked at a drag show at Trixie Mattel's bar, but it's like, I would be so interested to talk to somebody like, I want to talk to the person who works at Visit Milwaukee,

like the Wisconsin State Tourism Board or whatever. I want to know, like, how those conversations go. Like, how do you, like, pitch your mid-size American city as a housewife's destination? Like, who in Cleveland, was like, The Bachelor needs to come here. Let me get on the phone to ABC and see if we can cough up some cash

and some free hotel rooms. It's so fascinating to me. All the mechanics that are at work underneath the surface of these shows. And so, like, honestly, if you or someone you know works in that industry and is, like, involved in making the Milwaukee magic happen, if you're a Queen City Queen,

and you're getting those Housewives of Potomac on a plane or a car if you're Stacey and you don't fly for the month of May to honor your family member who passed away in an aviation accident? That was great. What? Like, what? Let me know if you have the deets on how the Housewives Tourism Board deals work. Because I really am genuinely curious.

Like, I think talking to the glam, talking to, you know, producers, editors. photographers. I think all of these people that kind of make this world tick are super interesting. And I feel like we don't, we don't really get a peek behind the curtain very often. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, frame, and free people. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free.

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And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. But let's talk about Orange County a little bit more. Obviously, they're on this trip to London,

and I haven't talked about Orange County in a few weeks. So I'm going to back up a little bit. And prior to this trip, the whole thing with Alexis basically getting, you know, banished from the trip and seemingly kind of from the rest of the season, because Shannon, it's Shannon's birthday trip to London. And so Shannon texted Alexis to let her know

that she is not invited to the trip, which first of all, like stone cold killer move. Good job, Shannon. Like, Shannon, the way that she has kind of like had a backdoor, incredible season is kind of remarkable. Because I was definitely ready for this season to be like the last rights of Shannon. I thought it was going to be like rough stuff,

like a bad time all around for Shannon Bador. And I don't know how much fun she's having, but she certainly is having a good season like in the public consideration. And her not inviting Alexis to the trip, first of all, great TV. Alexis like being, you know, kicking Katie and Jen out of her house because she's like so upset. Great moment.

But also like this trip to me is, clicking so well, and it's kind of firing on all cylinders. And I really do feel like if Alexis had been there, it would have really like sullied the vibe in a way that I don't know. Because at this point, it's like Shannon and Tamara, obviously, are at each other's throats all the time. You know, Tamara and Jen are at each other's throats all the time, but we're finally not talking about John Jansen.

And when we are, when we're talking about this lawsuit, when we're talking about, you know, different circumstances and background and stuff like that, we're not getting Alexis in our ear being like, well, actually Johnny J's a perfect man. And so anybody that's saying anything against that, obviously, it's just jealous that they can't have him. And because I'm fucking him four times a day and that's actually my future husband. So how dare you? Like not having that voice in your ear, suddenly it's like, wow, the birds are chirping. I can hear like a fresh breeze coming from somewhere. There's like a little hint of music in the air. It's amazing all the sights and sounds that you can hear

when Alexis Bellino is not in your ear talking about John Jansen's penis. Like it really is so refreshing. And it's crazy that Alexis has had like such an impact on this season in the worst way that all of a sudden it's like, peace and quiet. It's really nice. But also, speaking of Alexis, the biggest impact, that she's made the last couple weeks while she hasn't been on the show is that Shannon found

this fucking smoking gun text from Alexis from 2018, which is so funny that this is going back six years, like how many different iOS updates and like phone upgrades that Shannon even still has this text is impressive. And that's probably why Alexis, I don't know if she forgot about it or if she just thought nobody would ever find it. But the fact that Alexis was so adamant that she had nothing to do with this lawsuit coming from her ex-Jim. And instead, there is a text that is literally Alexis to Shannon being like, because you do this thing to us, we will be suing you. On behalf of our lawyer, we will be sending the lawsuit.

Bitch, consider me the sewer, Alexis Bellino. We're going to get you. And then for her to come on this show six years later and be like, I don't have anything to do with that. We were getting divorced at the time. It's so crazy. And I, the way that Tamara is like, I don't even want to say is like rewriting history because she literally is just, she's acting like history doesn't exist.

Or like she's looking at the history and being like, so what? Who cares? It's very, like when they used to do the view on S&L and Fred Armisen was playing Joy by her. So what? Who cares? Like Tamara cannot, she has these blinders on for Alexis. in such a bizarre way because Tamara, with that lawsuit with Jim Bolino,

Tamara was the one who was, like, so distraught over it, like going through it so bad. And so for her to now just have these, like, absolute kid gloves for Alexis, it really is, it's so puzzling. And it makes then everything that she's, you know, bringing up against Shannon. This whole Jeff Lewis thing, I'm sorry.

I had Aaron Leachie in the studio, earlier. That episode is going to be out on Wednesday of this week. It was a nice conversation about New York and everything, but we talked about the Jeff Lewis drama that's happening on New York, and we have Jeff Lewis drama happening on OC2. Can we put the kibosh on Jeff Lewis drama? Enough. I know people love Jeff Lewis. A Jeff Lewis is a little shister, and he knows it, but like, enough. I don't need all my Housewives storylines to originate with something that that Jeff said on the radio. and somebody else had to respond to.

And then it's like, can you believe you so? This thing on Jeff Lewis? Who cares? And the Shannon thing, it really is so when they were in, what was it, Big Bear, Lake Arrowhead, all these California places.

No, it was Sonoma. Sonoma, were they in Sonoma? God, they've been on a world tour of California. But when Shannon and Heather had this conversation about whether or not Johnny J had heard the accident and if he did and he decided not to come running after and then when Jeff brings it up and she's like

well well Jeff that's very injured I hadn't thought of that before and all of a sudden like Heather feels so betrayed by this and it's like who cares now I think Heather is she's in a few situations this season where she seems like either like she's making a mountain out of a molehill

or she's trying to turn somebody else's mountain into a molehill, like with Gina's frustration about this house comment on Watch What Happens Live, which, again, it's kind of like all of these little tidbits of things that people say in interviews can't become huge housewife storylines. But then on the flip side, it's like Heather is very upset about this mammogram thing. And I understand where she was coming from. I think that, again, maybe it feels a little bit blown out of proportion. but, like, Heather is in a weird...

She's in this, like, weird space this season where it feels like every other episode, she's either, like, maximizing her own problem or minimizing somebody else. It's like the stuff with Emily at the fashion show. And I feel like Heather needs to just, like... I don't know if she needs to take a chill pill or just, like, kind of find a more, like, balanced, even ground.

Because it does feel like she is just kind of like... All of the problems that Heather has... has had this season. I'm kind of like, who cares? Can we just, can we either like acknowledge that somebody else is feeling a certain way and that's fine and move on or like just not have the problem in the first place? I don't know. But Gina feels like she's not allowed to have her feelings. And I don't disagree. The one thing that really was making me laugh, though, that Heather did, was that she saw the dress

that Jen wore to this tea party. She saw this dress at Neiman Marcus and checked the tag and it's a $2,000 Dolcehinkabana dress and she was like,

huh, Jen told us that she's only getting $6,000 a month in spousal support. So she's spending $2,000. You know what? Let me call up Tamara.

The fact that's the thought process is like any defense after that when she's like, oh, well, you know, I felt concerned. And I just wanted to make sure that you didn't feel like you had to be, but spending all this money to keep up appearances and to be with the group. It's like, girl, all of that went out the door the second that you chose to call Tamara Judge. Because I'm sorry, I, Tamara Judge is an amazing housewife. But there is no world in which you call Tamara to talk about how much Jen Pedrante is.

spending on a dress for any reason other than to talk shit, other than to be messy. And that is fine. But then when Jen brings it up for her to be like, I just wanted to make sure that you were okay. And that you didn't feel like there was a certain. But then on the flip side, for Jen to be like, well, who cares? Because you walk in and head to toe designer and I don't make a problem out of that. And the way everyone has to like stop for a second and be like, well, I mean, that's because Heather has the money.

Like, right, the whole point of this is that they're concerned about Jen spending $2,000 on a dress because Jen don't got two nickels to rub together. Heather DeBrow doesn't have that problem. Like, if you think Heather DeBro is an asshole, that's a separate issue. The thing she doesn't have to worry about is what her Neiman Marcus, credit card bill is going to be at the end of the month because that shit is covered. In general, I do, I love a conversation about like buying fake things, spending too much money, like keeping up with the Joneses of it all. Like, I think that that is like kind of perfect housewives territory.

And so I almost wish they would dig into that more. Like we talk so much about the relationships and the scandals and all of it. And I'm like, who's spending too much at Neiman Marcus? That's enough for me. That's a storyline. That's what I want to hear about. But that is not enough for Tamara Judge because we find out via Shannon,

Shannon shares with Jen that back in 2022, Tamara sent her screenshots, receipts, proof, timeline, everything, that she was going to get a background check on Ryan. And it's so interesting that this is, I think fall of 2022, she sent these texts, which is around the time that Jen was filming her first season of Housewives.

So this is not even like something that happened during this season when Tamara's talking about FBI. This happened basically when Jen was joining the show. So this has been something that's been sitting for a while. And that made me think when Jen goes to Tamara's hotel room and she's in the midst of getting glammed with Heather. And I don't know what the schedule is on this trip to London because I feel like everybody is on a different timeline.

Tamara went out to get her little strawberries covered with chocolate with Emily. And then she came back and she was like getting glammed but like very much not put together. Meanwhile, like Jen and Shannon and whoever else was downstairs, I think it was Gina, they look fully put together. I'm like, when is the next group activity? Why are you spending so much time in the hotel? They're in London, for God's sakes, and it feels like they're just sitting in their rooms all day long.

I think that's why I could never do a show like this, because it's like you're in this like these far-flung locales and like the activity for the day is going to one store and then sitting in the hotel. That's not how I travel. I mean, I guess everything is paid for, so boo-hoo. But Jen Padranti, Queen Jen Padranti,

she marches on up to Tamara's suite. She goes in, they're in the middle of Glam, and I love that, I love that this is clearly, like, not staged because they're in the middle of Glam, literally blow dryer, like, V-Zen has to be like,

hi, can you turn that up for a second? I need to yell at Tamara. And Tamara is, like, in the middle of telling some story. And I was wondering, it kind of sounded like Tamara might have been talking about Jen when she walked in. We didn't get a reaction that kind of made it seem like it.

But the fact that she's just like yapping Heather, she's like, and I said to her, and then you don't even have to be married. And then blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Can you turn that off? You got a background check on Ryan. And Tamara, the fear of God in her face. This was like just such a perfect ambush. And it's really hard to pull off because you know how many cameras and producers and stuff,

these people have around them, to actually be in the same hotel and to just be like, you know what, I'm going to go up there and ask her. Hold that thought. Buh, bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo go up to the room. Knock knock, knock, doc. Producer lets her in. Turn off the blow dryer. Sneak attack. That's art to me. No, it's art. It's art for everyone. It should be art for everyone. Not just for me. But the way that Tamara first denies it, and then you can tell, you can tell that she's been caught, because Jen is not easing up. She's like, I already saw the proof.

I don't need. And Tamara's like, well, show me the proof. Show me the proof. And Tamara's like, and Jen's like, I don't have to because I already saw it. I know. And Tamara first is like, no, I didn't. I never did. I swear on my kid's life, which I feel like Tamara,

she has sworn on these children. lives dozens of times it feels like. That has always been such a strange, like, default thing to me. I grew up watching Survivor. I'm actually watching this season of Survivor, which is pretty good. But the way people on Survivor will swear on children's lives, don't do it. It's weird. Even if, like, I don't believe that that is, like, out there in the world.

Like, I don't think if you, like, swear on your kid's life and then you break your promise, like, I don't think, like, a piano is going to fall on them the next day. Like, that's not how the world works. But, like, just leave the kids out of it. Leave the daughter that doesn't talk to you out of it. Like, don't swear on her life. But so first, Tamara's like, no, I never did. And then she says, I've never paid for a background check in my life.

And then she says, the guy wasn't even, he wasn't a private investigator. He was like a friend. And meanwhile, Jen's like, I don't give a fuck if he's a private investigator. That's not what I asked him. out. I don't care if you paid for a background check. You sent Shannon screenshots of a fucking background check. And I, Jen Padranti, speaking up for herself, standing on business, this, she's in gangster mode. And this, this just like sparked joy for me in such a way. Just chills, just goosebumps. A wonderful performance by Jen Padranti, a second season housewife who is really just,

I think she's flourishing this season and maybe her life is not going great like maybe she's not flourishing in like a she's not thriving lifewise perhaps I don't know I don't want to be mean I would never but

she's doing such a good job on this show and that's what matters to me and I do Gina kind of like brought up earlier in the episode when Tamara was apologizing to her for she was like oh I'm sorry I brought up the FBI thing I just needed to like it needed to get it out

it's like first of all like what are you talking about but then also gina's like how many times does jen have to get walloped in the head before she starts to wear a freaking helmet and i feel like her charging up to tamara's room and bringing up this background check she put on that helmet and she's not looking back so congratulations jem pedrante for for finding a helmet um you You've gotten walloped for the last time, maybe. We'll see. We'll see. Study and play.

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are being kind of like slow to get back on the Potomac train because last season was so questionable. And I think that's, it's understandable. It's understandable. But I think that this season, at least so far, they have done a really effective job at shifting the vibe without making it feel like a completely different show.

Now, do I miss Candace? yeah, do I miss Robin? Nor. But I do, I think that the new women that they've brought on, and I mentioned this kind of at the beginning of the episode, I think that they all are bringing something really interesting and what is really fascinating, watching this season kind of begin to develop,

is the way that Karen and Chazelle both clearly feel the need to have these new women on their team. and this is something our friend Gibbs and Johns pointed this out on Twitter that going into the season, you might have thought that it was going to be sort of like Karen and Jazeel love fest a little bit or at least like respect fest a little bit, I guess because they don't always love each other, but they respect each other.

But instead we're seeing this kind of like team Karen and team Jousel sort of start to form and the way that both of these women are like out here doing campaign stops to try and get fucking Stacey and Jazzy on their side, it feels a little bit like they're stooping. Like they know that they need to put in some effort. But also it's like the strategy is really remarkable. Because this dual event thing that happened a couple weeks ago. First of all, Karen, messy, messy.

Girl, you shouldn't have done it. We all know. We all watched. Giselle having this GNA thing that, okay, so GNA, it was athleisure and now it's raising money for brain cancer, which is great, which is better. I mean, let's raise money for brain cancer instead of selling like allegedly shitty leggings. But like, what is GNA really? I did laugh.

I think it was Mia that said gangsters in alcohol. I'm like, why not? But Giselle literally spoke to Karen about having this event. And Karen was like, well, you know, I'm accepting this award the same night. But because you're doing your thing and because I know that's important to you, I won't tell the ladies to come to my thing. Jazeel, you can have your thing. And it's like, wow, is this progress?

Are we on the same page? And then Karen sending this text the next morning being like, hello, ladies. As you all know, I'm getting this award. And Giselle's event is on the same night. So I'm going to be providing shuttle bus transportation. so you can go to both. That's not how the world works.

And immediately when they're on this bus and they know the timing's not going to work out and Giselle's pissed off. She kicks out, you know, Mia and whoever else. Giselle realizing in short order that the actual issue there was not with the women who tried to do both. The actual issue there is with Karen

and she needs to be mad at Karen and she needs to apologize to the women whom she kicked out. that was like a little bit of a 3D chess move from Giselle because I think in the past, and Wendy kind of points this out, getting an apology from Giselle without asking 55 times is not something that you can take for granted.

So the fact that Giselle kind of like quickly corrected her misstep with the new women in the cast, plus Mia. I mean, Mia is like, she's like the old of the new kind of thing, which Mia, top tier MVP right now. But the way that she was able to kind of regroup, and she's like, you know what?

The problem was with Karen. And in the process, not only did she apologize to the new women and sort of be like, I still, I like you guys, I want you to want to be friends with me. She also is using it as an opportunity to shit talk Karen. And she's like, nothing about Karen.

She's going to tell you one thing. And that's not really what she means. Like it actually, I know people, people like dog on Giselle. for being like a good housewife, honestly. Maybe not a good friend, but like a good housewife. I think that this is really like an excellent move from Giselle because she is like sort of she's planting this seed in these women of like,

Karen might tell you something that you want to hear, but that's different from Karen like really riding for you. And you need somebody that's really going to ride for you. Is that Giselle? She wants you to think it is. I don't think that's a different question than if it actually is. but Karen is like maybe fumbling a little bit right now because she also, she has a court date, apparently,

for the DUI stuff. And when they get to Charlotte, Queen City, hey! She's in the car with Mia, and it's just them one-on-one in the car. And you can tell that Mia is like, Mia's like 10% messy, 20% actually cares, 70% just vibes. But she's like,

so Karen, what's going on with the quirt date? And Karen's like, well, you know, because it's an ongoing legal thing. I can't talk about it, which I hate to say over and over again, but I can't. And Mia's like, girl, it's online. I love the way that Mia is kind of approaching this where she's like, I'm not going to pretend that I'm not nosy. So I'm just going to tell her, it's online. I already read about it online.

So you might as well just tell me. And Karen, I don't think Karen. Karen really can, like, process what's actually happening right now. Because I don't think, I feel like Karen thought that she was going to be able to kind of say her, like, boilerplate disclaimer about what she's going through on episode one. And then that everybody else was just going to kind of, like, accept that and move on. And I don't think she necessarily thought about the fact that she's on a cast with, like, a million women. How many, God, how many women are in this cast who, like, are going to ask questions and are going to, like, make a little moment out of it. And I don't think Karen was like, she doesn't seemfully ready.

It's like you had how long to prepare. Come on. Be ready. I like seeing Mia and Inc. together, actually. Their energy is really, they seem to be very into each other, which makes me happy. Because obviously the vibes with Gordon were not great. There's been some like drama going on with Mia and Gordon in the press. Gordon's been like putting out statements. This is one thing where I'm like, leave it on the show. I don't want to read like a Notes app fucking Instagram story

create mode thing from Gordon of all people. Like say what you have to say on the show. Maybe if you get invited on and watch what happens live, I mean, you probably won't, but like, I can't get into that. I like Mia. I want Mia to succeed. I want me to be happy. And that's kind of all I have.

That's all I have the energy to care about. But this trip to Charlotte, I feel like it has potential. I feel like the season has potential. And like I said, with these new women, I'm not going to be, you know, framing their photo, hanging it on the wall in three episodes. But I am happy to say that I'm enjoying them.

And I feel like there's still a lot of ground to cover this season. I mean, like Ashley getting in trouble for revealing that Stacey has a quote-unquote friend. Ooh. Weirdness. Weirdness all around. Ashley needs, and we need her to get in the mix a little bit more, I'm enjoying Wendy's energy. Now I just feel like I'm like

dropping little breadcrumbs of thoughts about Potomac. But we have a lot of season left and I'm excited, hopefully to get some of the ladies in here to talk about everything that's unfolding and make sure that you are subscribing and following the show.

So you don't miss any of it. Like I said, Aaron Leachie's going to be on Wednesday's episode and then Thursday I'll be back with more Salt Lake, more assorted. Whatever's going on. We're going to talk about it. And until next time, be cool.

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