Mention It All - Dumping Booze Over A Captain Sandy Cruise?? (RHOM, Love Island, The Valley)

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

It’s been another busy week in the extended Bravo universe, and Dylan starts the episode by addressing Craig Conover’s latest attempt to set the record straight. His ring receipts might not hold up in a court of law, but are they enough to convince Bravo fans he’s not a liar? From there, he unpacks Casa Amor week on Love Island USA, and compares how the drama in Fiji stacks up to one single dinner on RHOM. Speaking of RHOM, it’s a chaotic episode that ends with Julia dumping her drink on Guerdy over… Captain Sandy cruise? Dylan also discusses the latest drama on The Valley, and issues a word of caution to some of the cast members on Next Gen NYC. Go to the Always On YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@AlwaysOnBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We'll go check me, boo. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. We've made it through another week. Well, almost. Recording us on Thursday afternoon. So I'm going to talk about Love Island a little bit. But because of the Love Island schedule, I will be a day behind.

And you guys, the Love Island schedule is kicking my ass. I know I'm preaching to the choir. This is only my second week of keeping up with Love Island USA. And I already am having to like really, really push through and make sure that I am watching these episodes. So again, TBD on the future of our Love Island coverage. But we're in Casa Amor and things are plug in right along. Before I get into that, some housekeeping.

Going to talk about Love Island. Going to talk about Miami. What an episode. A little next gen NYC. a little valley, lots of stuff going on, but also some housekeeping for our YouTube channel. We are going to be making the name of the YouTube channel, Bravo by Betches, just like it is on Instagram. So you'll still be able to listen to all the Tuesday episodes of mention it all on the Bravo

by Betches YouTube channel. Same, you know, same place they've always been, just with a different name. We have some exciting stuff coming up on YouTube. Earlier this week, we put out our interview with Marisol. If you haven't listened to that, go check it out. And the next couple weeks, we are keeping it hot for the summer. Amira from NextGen, NYC, is going to be on our episode next Tuesday. And then the following week, we've got another Miami housewife, Larsa Pippen, in the house.

We talked about a lot of stuff with Larsa. She's always a trip to have on the show. So go subscribe on YouTube to watch those episodes coming out because let me tell you, the glam has been coming through the studio. And it's not from me. So, but before I get into any of the, the shows that are actually on right now, I want to talk about a development in the Southern Charm, Summerhouse universe. And this is that Craig Conover this week went on the toast, a show that I don't watch or listen to, but, you know, if it's your thing, that's great.

But Craig went on and finally shared proof that he actually did buy an engagement ring for page because this is something, as we know, we've gone back and forth about that it's like, oh, well, I wish you wouldn't have broken up with me before you saw the ring and, oh, I had this ring for so long, and oh, it was a big old diamond, you would have loved it, you should have stayed with me, and Paige, you know, didn't believe that he bought the ring and, you know, nobody believed that he bought the ring. And so finally Craig is, you know, coming out to clear his name and once and for all to prove that he bought the ring and how did he choose to do this?

was it, oh, he has the receipt. He showed a bank statement or a, you know, a proof of purchase. No. He has a picture on his iPhone. He, on the toast, shows on his phone screen, a picture in his camera roll of a ring on a nightstand, just like, it's like a shitty up-close photo that could be like any ring on any nightstand anywhere in the world. Oh, but it's proof because the photo has a geo tag that's his.

his neighborhood in Charleston. I'm sorry. This would not hold up in a court of law. This wouldn't hold up on Judge Judy. This is not real proof. Now, I'm not saying that I think Craig is lying. Because I don't really have a dog in this fight. Like, who cares?

They're not together. The ring has, you know, been flushed down the toilet or sold or put on Facebook marketplace or whatever at this point. it's neither here nor there. I don't really care. But if everybody thinks you're a liar, well, no, everybody knows you're a liar. We don't think Craig is a liar. It's Craig Conover is a liar. We think that he lied about this. If you're like working under the knowledge that everybody already knows you're a liar and your goal is to try and prove that you're telling the truth about something, I just feel like a shitty iPhone photo that you say has a geotag is not like that,

strong of evidence. Like, this, this is not bulletproof by any means. And so, like I said, I don't really care about this. But if I was staunchly in the camp of Craig Conover is a liar and he never bought a ring, I see this little, you know, clip from the toast. I'm like, I still think Craig's a liar and never bought a ring. Again, I don't know. I don't really care.

I just think that Craig is just like go away sit down put your phone on airplane mode and like go sew a pillow that's what you're good at oh I guess I just think that like this this breakup situation Craig has lost the game it's over there's no extra innings it's over you you lost the breakup That doesn't mean that, you know, there's no future for you. It just means that, like, it's not going to behoove you to continue bringing this up and to go on a podcast and tell, you know, Claudia Oshry about how the photo has a geotag. Nobody gives a fuck. It's like, um, Heather Dubrow once said, if everyone says you're dead, it's time to lie down.

Craig, it's just like, go away. Go away. We'll see you next season on Southern Charm. Can't wait. I'm sure you'll be, you know, chatting up some lovely 23. year-year-old blonde girl, and, you know, the order of the circle of life will be restored. But until then, just get... Now, let's talk about Love Island. Last week was famously my first time ever watching Love Island USA. And by the skin of my teeth, I have managed to keep up this week.

The girlies have gone to Casa Amor. The boys have stayed home. Everybody's recoupled and shaken up. And oh, my God, can you imagine? Now, this is... is not, I'm not the first person to make this point, but I just have to say, look, I'm enjoying the show, whatever, the episodes are so long. There's so many of them. I'm really, you know, we could, we could make some trims, but overall, I'm enjoying it. But can I just say, people are online on Al Gore's internet. Acting like this season is the most dramatic, most shocking, most, you know, beyond extreme drama that they've ever seen in their life. And I just want to say, people that are acting like that, show them the last 10 minutes of this

week's episode of Real Housewives of Miami, they would explode. They would absolutely pass away watching Julia and we'll get to it. Watching Julia call Gertie a psychopath and throw a drink in her face with such a very with such intensity. That's not happening on Love Island USA. These girls are, I mean, we're using the word crash out a lot on this season of Love Island USA. These girls are crashing out over men that they met 12 days ago or less. And it's simply not that deep.

Now, I got a kick out of the recoupling ceremony on Tuesday nights episode. First of all, I love that Ariana, she's in Fiji this whole time. She's there. She's around. But they pick and choose when to actually employ her on the show because they do this recoupling ceremony solely via text. The islanders are getting the texts one by one on their phones. And it's like so, it's so dramatic in such a silly way where somebody said they're doing

popcorn reading. Like they're in a middle school class and it's like, gling. Amaya, you are single and volumin. vulnerable. Please stand in front of the fire pit. And then you wait for the next person to get the text and you go one by one and do the whole thing. First of all, it takes 45 minutes. I don't, can we get the texts flow in a little faster? But it's just such a funny, like, impersonal way of doing it. But then also it hits the emotions harder because the islanders have to like do the dumping themselves. They're like, they're, oh, Landria.

you are single and vulnerable. Please stand in front of the fire pit. And the difference in emotion level between the two recoupling ceremonies at the villa and at Casa Amor because, spoilers, Elandria and Nick get dumped or so, you know, maybe. But the women are acting like the world descending,

sobbing, crying, hysterical, Emae getting recoupled with Zach is the reason that Elandrie gets dumped in Amaya looks like she would rather cut off her own arm than be like the cause of Elandria going home. Huda is like shrieking as they go up to like the makeup room to say goodbye to her. Like you can literally hear them crying from like the next island over. It's so intense and just like L.O.L. And then in the guys villa, they're like, oh man, I'm sorry, bro. is what it is. See you, brother. See you on the other side. Catch you on the flip. Flipp. Flippity flip. It's just like, this show is so silly. It really is. Now, this week is fun because we get like 12 new people, 10 new people. I don't know. I'm not counting.

And there's one girly that has been getting a little bit more attention online. And I'm not here to criticize anyone's appearance. I'm not here to, to, to, to, to, to cyber bully any, um, any 21 year old girlie. But let's just say that Vanna, um, sweet Vana has spent a lot of time in a, in a med spa. And people, people are talking. The streets are talking. Vana's from Utah. Maybe that girl has a beauty lab punch card. Maybe she's whipping her, her, you know, Subaru or whatever car she drives into that 15 minute

Botox parking spot and popping right in for a little for a little touch up or a lot of touch up in her case 21 years old. Oh my God. It's just it's too much. It's too much. I don't know. It's a lot. If you're not watching Love Island, sorry, you can start open your ears back up. It's a lot, but I can't wait to see what happens next. It's so dramatic. Your summer starts now with Memorial Day deals at the Home Depot. It's time to fire up summer cookouts with the next grill four-burner gas grill on special buy for only $199. And entertain all season with the Hampton Bay,

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And that's where they really thrive because some Housewives shows, it's like with Beverly Hills, for example, it's like, they'll spend a whole season just like going back and forth over something that is not that interesting. Honestly, the Valley is like struggling with that a little bit this season that it's like, okay, I've heard about, you know, Danny drinking, taking shots in the closet 42 times. And like, is it a little shady? Sure. Does Janet need a hobby? Absolutely. But on Miami, it's like things will pop up out of nowhere and just become earth-shattering events.

Because we knew that Garty and Julia weren't in a great place going into this season. We've heard since the premiere that Gertie was not satisfied with the way she was informed of Julia's adoption because she couldn't make it on the Zoom call and everybody else was on the Zoom call and Julia wouldn't tell her until it was in the press. You know, we've heard about that. But what we didn't know about was that there's a whole other issue between Gertie and Julia, which is this cruise. And this story of this cruise that unfolds throughout this episode is just like so beautiful to me. Because it's so stupid, so petty, so messy. It's just, okay, so Julia was invited on this cruise. Invited, was she paid to be there?

Was it a business opportunity? I don't know. It was a cruise. Martina was supposed to go. Martina ended up not being able to go because I guess she needed to get a biopsy important. Totally makes sense. Having to, I don't want to go on a cruise even when I'm in perfect health. But that's a separate issue.

So Julia invites Gordy to come on the cruise with her. First of all, a little weird to me, I'm like, were you that close in the first place to like be plus ones on a cruise? Now, were they like sharing a bed? Because I would think if your plus one backs out of the cruise and you were going to have a it just seems like close quarters. A lot of time spent together. Julia and Gertie, I like them both in varying contexts.

I don't know that I would want to be one-on-one paired with either of them on a cruise. I think that would get old. I think I would just, I would need to like bring my AirPods, I think is what would need to happen. But, you know, we're hearing more about this cruise and, you know, Gertie feels like she was a seat filler on the cruise and she was, you know, the plus one,

which it's like you literally were. You were the backup plus one on this cruise. And there was something one night and Julia's telling it, oh, there was, she, her name wasn't on the reservation because when Martina wasn't coming, they took her name off. And then it was a whole thing. So Gertie had to eat at a different restaurant and she felt insulted, slighted, less than. And it's like, what are you, what are we talking about? What is, what is this cruise? Did you really want to be on the cruise that bad?

And then later in the episode, we find out maybe why Gertie wanted to be on the cruise. Because she wants to be getting herself invited to special events and she wants to be hanging out with Captain Sandy. Julia's like, she wanted to spend time with Captain Sandy on the cruise. Okay, okay, so this is a Captain Sandy cruise. Now, first of all, I actually think you've just heard me say that I don't want to go on any cruise. I would less rather go on a Captain Sandy cruise. I'd rather go on a Disney cruise than spend time at sea with Captain Sandy. Because what?

She's going to lecture me about maritime law and get me kicked. out because I brought my weed pen into international waters. No, I don't want to be stuck on a boat with Captain Sandy. Sign me the opposite of up. Get me out of there. No, but this is just like so, ah, it just is, it sounds so made up to explain that they're fighting over whether Gertie was treated well enough as a replacement plus one on a cruise that Captain Sandy was also on. And speaking of Captain Sandy, we give out awards here every week. And today's award is the Nini Leaks Award for Now, why am I in it? And this award is going to Captain Sandy. Congratulations, Captain Sandy. I don't even know why you're in it. I'm sure you don't either. I'm sure Captain Sandy has no idea that all of this

is happening on Real House of Miami and that her name is even being invoked. But things are very heated between Gertie and Julia. Really just ratcheting up and up and up. And both of these women are, they both have their particular accents, and they both really get into like an elevated vocal state, and there's just a lot of energy, a lot of chirping back and forth, you could say.

And Gertie is saying, oh, you're an animal, and this is not the animal farm, honey. And then Julia says, you're psychotic. You're psychotic. And she just like, she really like jabs the drink. Like she almost is like stabbing the air with the glass into Gertie's face. And that was, that was really something.

I just was not, you know, when, when Gertie was angry about the Zoom call with the baby stuff, I was like, yeah, that does sound, you know, not great. Obviously, Julia's in a little bit of a different place this season. you know, she's not as close with Adriana. And, you know, even Adriana didn't find out about the babies before the Zoom call, and she's pissed about that. And Julia, Julia just, I think, is not really, her main concern right now isn't how the ladies are feeling about her actions.

You know, that's just she has bigger fish to fry, literal children to raise. But, oh my God, the level to which she and Gertie got. And then Gertie, after the drink throw, after the drink throw, which, Not good, not good. Gertie really, she goes for the jugular. And she says that while Martina was in New York getting chemo, Julia got a facelift. Ooh!

No! Oh, Gertie, what did you do? Oh, yes, me no. It's not good. No, Gertie. Gertie, please. After last season, we were... Gertie dragged Larsa upright, down center about, you know, speaking about her cancer stuff,

not using the, not using the chemo in the facelift as a dig. Oh, oh, man, this is, this is intense. I don't know if they're going to come back for that one. Man, and then Larsa and Kiki were on Watch What Happens Live last night. and they were talking about this situation and, you know, Kiki's like, yeah, you know, it was not great. It was not great that she like, you know, threw that out there.

But also, it is true. I was dying. It was a good watch what happens live, by the way. If you, if you like dabble with Watch What Happens Live, Larsa and Kiki was a fun one. But I loved that Kiki was like, yeah, I can't condone what Gertie did, but also she did not lie.

Julia got the facelift while Martina was in New York for chemo. Interesting. I don't know. I don't know if I can judge that. Maybe I can. But I don't know. I mean, we're making a lot of judgments about how people choose to handle tough times in their life on Miami this season. You know, Larsa asking Lisa why she was in Milan if her father was not doing it.

well health-wise. Sadly, this episode, we do find out that Lisa's father passed away, so she's not in attendance at Marisol's surprise wedding dinner, probably for the best. It's just like, it's tough when you really start to, like, judge other people for those kind of life choices. Face lifelift during chemo, I don't know. I mean, chemo is a ongoing, it's a long process. You have to live your life, but also... I don't know. Julia looks good. She does look pretty good.

There's this woman on TikTok that I've been seeing who went to Mexico for a facelift, and she was 51, and she looks decades younger. It's crazy. Julius doesn't look that drastic. You know, she got like a nice little touch-up. She looks fresh. She looks good.

She's ready to be a mom of little kids. I mean, not that she wasn't before. for, but she looks good. I don't know. The plastic surgery, you know, I don't want to judge Vanna on Love Island. I don't want to judge Julia. Everybody's doing their own thing. Everybody's doing their own thing. And to that, I say, you know, to each their own. Adriana being upset about the, about the baby thing is tough too, because it's just like they're not as close as they used to be. And that sucks, but also like, I don't know. They'll figure it out. Or they won't. And they won't. And they'll never speak again.

And that would probably be okay too. Now, the one thing I was a little confused about with this episode of Miami is the Jody crazy eyes picture thing because this was teased in the in the trailer in the preview last week. And then I saw some people commenting on social media before the episode. They were like, oh, if you think, you know, if you thought the AC thing was crazy, yo, just wait till you see Jody on this week's episode. The way that people were describing it, you would have thought that Jody on this week's episode

was like unveiled as a serial killer. You would have thought they were like, well, we found the Zodiac killer and it's this guy. Like his eyes look crazy in the photo. We've all known somebody who just looks a little wonky in photos. You know, the flash is just kind of like, it's, I mean, it's a bad, it's not a great photo. but like I think we're like I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about Jody

but I do think people are a little eager to try and find an evil man on Bravo and there are plenty I mean we've got Todd in this cast right now that Alexi is like just starting to see the light of oh yeah he like screwed me over and my kids and that's not okay but like not every man is like the same now I do think it's a little bit the like business element of it makes me a little more nervous where he's like copied on all her stuff and you know that is something that I'm a little bit like okay like keep your own documents and they're not married I don't know but it's just like okay like he looked crazy in a photo he looked like Ramona at you know Brooklyn fashion weekend or whatever we've all had crazy eyes it happens

But now I'm interested to see once Lisa is back, like what the vibe is there. Because I don't want a whole season that's just like speculating about Jody. But if there's something going on, I would like to know. I don't know. But a good episode. A good episode. Oh, also on Watch What Happens Live. Larsa said that part of her issue with Lisa, obviously there's the specifics of the unfollowing

or lack of unfollowing of Marcus. But she said that for a long time when Lisa was dealing with the Lenny stuff, Lisa was the one who was kind of like receiving the abuse. And now we've done a 180 and Lisa is the one dishing it out. And that Larsa doesn't think that Lisa is a good friend to anyone in the group. And I kind of see it.

I mean, I just don't think Lisa super cares about anyone but herself. I certainly don't think she's like really checking on the women in this group and you do kind of have to wonder it's like she and Larsa we're pretty close and now that they're not friends at all it is kind of like well who is Lisa close to

in the group? I don't know. We'll see how this. I'm curious sort of how the alliances shake out this season because we've really had a shuffling of the deck where you know Adriana and Julia were super close. They're barely friends now.

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Get started at redfin.com. Own the dream. Let's talk about the valley. The valley, we're getting into the tail end of this season here. Their reunion looks came out pretty good. Pretty good. No major complaints. Better than I thought they were going to be.

The cast is going to Hawaii on this week's episode, so we just have like a couple of little loose ends to tie up before we get there. And that those come in the form of a men's scene, a women's scene, a Jack scene. I don't love any of it. I don't love any of what's happening. And I don't mean that like the show is bad. I mean that this group has some stuff to, man. This men's scene, they're with this like guru kind of guy. And they're, you know, it's like Jesse has brought this like male healer.

to the men, and they're going to work on clearing lists with each other of grievances or something. And it's very, it's very like toxic masculinity coded. It's like, yeah, we're men. And we're, as men, you have to work with, you have to work with the men to figure out men stuff. And so, you know, all my men, let's circle up. And we got to focus on as men, how we're, you know, moving through the world and clearing our lists. And it's just like, ooh, it makes me feel uncomfortable.

Like, what are we doing here? It's a very, like, manosphere adjacent. The, it makes me think of the video of Louie, Teresa's Louis, when he was, like, at the, you know, toxic masculinity camp or whatever and like, you know, chastising himself. It's just like, I don't, I don't need to see this. All the guys, you're working on your stuff. I don't need to see you, like, dapping each other up and giving each other heartfelt apologies. It really doesn't sit right with my spirit. But meanwhile, the women are going to dinner together. I'm just like, Sheena's like sitting down into this. She's like, mm, I'm so excited for Mexican food.

It's like, okay, like, you can have a burrito, whatever you want. But the, but the biggest, the biggest, like, topic of conversation or more like topic of accusation at this dinner is Michelle is upset about this woman, Jenna, who her boyfriend, Erin, maybe used to date being brought around to the group. And it's like every single person is accused of this in one way or another. It's like, she's mad at Kristen, but it was actually maybe Zach. And then, you know, maybe, maybe there was something that Jasmine did. And then it's like, who, but who actually, it's just like, who cares? Aaron's not even in the cast.

Michelle has been like, annoying me this whole season. I'm not, who cares? If you're, if you're so in love with this man, if he's so perfect and so much better than Jesse and, you know, an amazing, an amazing, you know, stepfather to be to Isabella, and, you know, the light of your life and the best thing to ever happen to you, who cares if his random ex-Janna is, like, coming around the group here or there? Girl, protect your peace. Focus on yourself.

No, but it just, it becomes this, like, whirlwind of just, like, yelling. And, you know, Nia starts crying because she says it's too much. And then Janet's yelling at Nia because she's, she says she's always crying. And it's like, oh, my, like. Janet, first of all, I mean, we've, we all know. We're all on the same page about Janet, I think, at this point. But that makes it so much funnier when they get to Hawaii and the first night they're there, Janet apologizes to Nia for yelling at her.

And she's like, yeah, you know, I just had too much to drink. And Nia's response, she goes, that early in the evening? Oh my God. You know she was waiting weeks to dish some of that up to Janet. To serve her a nice little heaping spoonful of her own medicine. Oh, you had too much to drink? Why do you have a drinking problem? Did you go in the closet and take shots?

What's your excuse? Look, I'm not saying that Danny has nothing to work on. He clearly has done some questionable things. I just, we, the drinking problem talk is just like, at a certain point, he either is going to deal with it or he's not. And we got to move on. We got to move on. Now, the one thing I am really happy about is Jack's not coming on the Hawaii trip.

And we get one, one scene of Jack's waiting to meet up with Brittany to like, I don't know, go over stuff or whatever. and you know, Brittany's running late and Jackson's like, oh, Britney can't be on time to save her life. She's just like, oh, she's such a fucking girl. She's always late. So he calls her and she's like, oh yeah, I'm not coming because I got a folder full of photos on my phone. I got DMed that you were at Jackson's bar last night, getting drunk,

and you still haven't seen crews. And you went to rehab for 30 days and you have not changed at all. Now, I mean, yeah, duh. I just like, it's crazy to watch Jacks in real time, like, fully just continue to not get it. And not even just to not get it, but to actively, like, do the opposite of getting it. And what's even crazier is that in the after show for The Valley this week, he is like, I think Britney's jealous because I'm doing so good. I think that's like the root of our problems that it hurts her to see me crushing it.

It's like crushing what? Crushing up pills to allegedly, I don't know. Like get a fucking grip. Nobody in the world is watching the show being like, oh man, Jacks is killing it and Brittany can't take it. It's like literally the upside down. Truly, I'm so confused. Like what do you think is happening here?

I don't know. I mean, I just hope, I know they're in Hawaii right now. I'm sure we're going to keep getting, like, Jack's video diary from home or whatever. They'll, like, film him, you know, mowing the lawn or punching a hole in the wall or, like, throwing away more of Britney's shit. It's just like, in the words of Larsa, we've got to get off the ride. And I'm, I feel like Britney has, but, like, I need the show to get off the Jack's roller coaster. Once again, I bet to talk about NextGen NYC, and I feel like I've gone long. I will just say, Ava Dash, watch your mouth.

I think that she did not realize when she was filming the show that Ariana Bierman was going to be a little bit of a star. And I think that we've seen this with Ava. We've seen this with Charlie. The like normies on this show, as I say about like a nepo baby and a crypto entrepreneur. I don't think they really realized what they were getting themselves into in terms of like how things were going to be received on the show. Yeah. Talking shit about Riley and Ariana is not going to be the key to being a fan. favorite on this show. I'll just, I'll just say that. And I think that, you know, none of these people

exactly have, like, careers that are popping off. So dragging someone's stated aspiration of having a clothing line, it's like, focus on your own shit. You were just telling your dad that you have no idea what you want to do with your life. Maybe modeling, maybe clothes, I don't know. You're all in the same boat. You're all young and, you know, spending your parents' money or your boyfriend's parents' money. God, I want a $10,000 apartment. I love that that's like the budget. It's like that's okay. Same girl, but whatever. Next gen, NYC, pretty good. I'm excited. I'm excited. I had a great time talking to Amira. I'm excited for you all to see that episode, which will be out next Tuesday on the YouTube channel. You know where to find it. But until next time, thanks so much everybody for

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