Mention It All - Dylan’s Vanderpump Brain Dump (RHONJ, RHOC)

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

Dylan returns from his trip to LA for a solo catchup, starting with his experiences at all of Lisa Vanderpump’s WeHo establishments. From bad table assignments to the famous goat cheese balls, it’s rough across the board. Later, he shares thoughts on last week’s episodes of RHONJ and RHOC, and wonders aloud how Teresa can possibly have a productive reunion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All. A Bravo by Betcha's podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, Bill. Hey, everyone.

Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and I am coming to you solo today. It's been like a week since I've recorded an episode. I've been out and about traveling in the world, and I just had to come back and sit down with all of you one-on-one or one-on-on-one. or one on many, depending on how many people listen to this. And just kind of debrief, because I feel like we've missed a lot. We have some shows to catch up on.

I want to talk about Real Housewives of New Jersey from last week and the Real House of Orange County finale, both episodes with a lot going on that deserve to be discussed. And I was not around last week to give them the light of day. So we're going to get into that. But first of all, I want to talk about what I was doing last week, my trip to L.A., my trip to Vanderpump land, and also the land of Beverly Hills, because I stayed in Beverly Hills. But I felt the spirit of Vanderpump rules really coursing through my veins, you could

say, I have to say, this was my first time in L.A., and therefore, my first time experiencing any of Lisa Vanderpumps, what is it, 27 nightclubs, bars, restaurants around the world. And I got to say I have some thoughts. And, you know, I prefer to keep my brain pretty empty, but these thoughts are not all positive. I did hit up the trifecta. I went to Pump. I went to TomTom. I went to Sir. I only ate at TomTom. I would have eaten it, sir. Got to say, menu was not clicking for me. Nothing was striking my fancy. But here's my little Vanderpump rundown. Wednesday night, I was out with some friends in WeHo, as you do. We stopped by Pump to get a drink. We were just getting a drink. You know, people are like, okay, I was in L.A. for three and a half days. I was not going to eat dinner.

at three different Lisa Vanderpump establishments. That would have been my entire trip. I'm sorry, but I have priorities. I have, one could say I have taste. One could say I have life ambitions aside from just giving Lisa Vanderpump my hard-earned money. So I only ate, I picked and chose what I wanted to do at each place. So at Pump, we stopped in for a drink.

It was Wednesday night about 10 o'clock. Pump Wednesday night closes at 11. Do you see a problem? I don't. We showed up an hour before they closed. I was with my friend Steve, who you know, Steve faces by Bravo, friend of the podcast. I was also with my friend Hayden Cohen, who has been on the podcast at Haters, a lovely crew. We go into Pump. Steve knows all the waiters. He's like, oh, like, can we get a table? And they're like, oh, like, yeah, like you could. It's not crowded, first of all. It's simply not crowded. They're like, you could sit at the bar or you could sit at a table or whatever. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm sitting at a table because I am not going to go to pump and sit inside in the corner when the world famous like pump patio with those weird like

bonzai trees, which by the way, I was kind of starstruck by the trees more than anything else because I just, I would recognize them anywhere. But they sit us down at this table. I have to say the whole pump patio, it's like nice, but also it just felt kind of dusty. I know there's like, Holland right now. It's like allergy season. But I didn't feel like I was kind of glad we weren't eating there because I felt like I would have been a little bit like icked out. And I went a lot of outdoor places when I was in L.A. And I would say this was kind of like the mustiest of them. But so I ordered a pump tini as you do because like pump tini. And you guys, it was nasty. And I posted this on my story and some people were like, oh, like nasty in a good way or nasty in a bad way.

I'm like, nasty in a bad way. Nasty is not something I say when I'm like, ooh, yummy drink. So the Pump Tini, if you're unfamiliar, which I can't imagine you're unfamiliar, but stick with me. It's a martini glass with a sugar rim. And then the actual cocktail is like vodka, some other liqueur, grapefruit. It's the equivalent of like a fraternity party punch where it's like ever clear or a diesel or like a really, really strong alcohol. And then because it's too strong to drink, you have to also make it too sweet at the same time. Like, it tastes like you put crystal light powder in a straight thing of vodka.

It wasn't pleasing to me. It was, like I said, nasty, not in a good way. But the weirdest thing about pump was that, like I said, they closed at 11. It was a little after 10. And they come around to our table right when we sit down and they're like, oh, guys, like, it's going to be last call at a So if you want any drinks, like, get them in now. And like, I've never, I've never been to an establishment where they were doing last call 45 minutes before they close. So Lisa, maybe, maybe you should speak to your staff about the, about when their shift is actually over. But that was pump. One drink was enough.

The next night, we went to Tom Tom for dinner. We had a reservation. No problem. We were sat all the way in the back. It's pretty big. I didn't realize how large Tom Tom is. They have like the second half open now. We were sitting all, all, all the way in the back. Not next to Nicolane's decor. I mean, I guess it's all Nicolane's decor. But it was, it was like, it kind of felt like we were in like the offshoot room in the back of Tom Tom. And then they immediately pull down. There's like big windows. It's nice. There's like sunlight. And then they pull down the shades. And so it's immediately basically pitch black in there, which is not. To me, it's not my favorite restaurant experience, but I get there. Like, Lisa, I would be like, yeah, we're going for something very sexy, and it has to be romantic and tom, tom, and lush, and whatever.

It was, I guess. The drinks, I have to say, solid. I got an espresso martini. Could have been better. Could have had more foam. It wasn't like, it wasn't like a world-class espresso martini, but it was fine. I had something else. Everybody liked their drinks.

There's like a clockwork pink. There's a, Madam Butterfly. I recognize all the names from Vanderpump Rules of the cocktails, which is sad. But Tom Tom was supposed to be dinner. Our reservation was for seven. It was dinner time. We ordered the goat cheese balls. There were six of us at the table.

There's only four goat cheese balls in an order. So we ordered two. You know, so everybody could have a chance. And there should be a few extra, two extra, I guess, if I'm doing math. When we left Tom Tom Tom, there were. three goat cheese balls left. Everybody didn't even want one. And I certainly didn't want a second one. It was one of the worst things I've ever eaten. It's like, okay, there is nothing I like more than going to an establishment and ordering like mozzarella sticks. Because you know exactly what you're getting.

It's going to be that like crisp, breetted outside, that hot gooey cheese on the inside. And that is what I wanted out of a goat cheese ball. I know mozzarella and goat cheese. I know mozzarella and goat cheese aren't like, don't have all the same properties. But I expected it to be like a crisp bite and then like a gooey, like a melt in your mouth, creamy goat cheese sensation. This is what was, I felt like was promised to me. It was so chalky, so pasty. Like peanut butter on the roof of your mouth.

But it didn't taste. Like when I have peanut butter on the roof of your mouth. on the roof of my mouth, I'm like, yum. It didn't, it didn't taste yum. It was, it was really something. Honestly, the, the little, like, garnish side salad, whatever that comes with the goat cheese balls was easily better than the goat cheese balls. And it was just like some greens and pomegranate seeds and balsamic glaze.

And I literally was like spooning more of that onto my plate. yet there was another goat cheese ball sitting there and I couldn't even touch it. I didn't want to look at it. And some of the friends I was with got flat breads to eat at Tom Tom. They have three flat breads on the menu and they ordered two of them because the waiter told them that the third was disgusting, which is always a good sign. The shrimp one if you're going was apparently too bad to eat. But the two they got, they were like, oh, it could have been good, but it was just covered in goat cheese. And it was the same pasty, cementy, uh, distasteful texture of goat cheese that was in the goat cheese balls. And so they were like, yeah, like, all I've gotten out of this eating experience is like a mouthful of pasty goat cheese. And like, what am I supposed to do with that? Like, I don't want to eat more goat cheese that's going to, like, give me the ick in my mouth.

So I was, you know, I was sitting at Tom Tom, Tom, and I had thought, okay, we're going to, we'll order some stuff to start and then I'll figure out like what I want for my meal. And I'm looking at this menu and I'm scraping the goat cheese off the roof of my mouth and I'm like, I don't want to eat anything else here. I don't want to spend $20 more on a pasta that sounds like it's going to be bad. So you know what I did? I pulled the rip cord on Tom Tom. I said, we're getting the check. and then I went on my phone and I made a reservation at Sir for like 15 minutes later. And I did it, I had kind of thought once I knew that I was going to Tom Tom, I was like, I probably won't go to Sir on this trip.

I don't want to, you know, I'm not coming back over here another night. I was like, get me the fuck out of Tom Tom. I want to go to Sir. And that, that is when I knew I was down bad. Because I've heard from so many people, so many people that I trust and that I love that Tom Tom is the best out of the three Vanderpump WeHo establishments. And I was sitting at Tom Tom, like, what is happening? This is depressing. There were no Tom's there. There was no Lisa. There was no James Kennedy wasn't DJing in his little like Juliet balcony. The place was dead.

So we gathered our things. We left Tom Tom, Tom. We went around the corner to Sir. It really is like a five-minute walk. And so we get to Sir. And let me just say, I made the reservation on Resi. First of all, it was a Thursday night. The fact that I could get a reservation for six people at 8.30 on a Thursday night on 15 minutes notice, it's not a promising sign. You know, places, the places I like to go are usually pretty booked up. You know, maybe getting a table for two, you could squeeze in. We were not being squeezed into, sir.

They were desperate for us to come. But I have to say, I made this reservation on Resi. And the nice thing about Resi is it will give you options for what table you want. So there was like indoor lounge, whatever. I specifically selected outdoor. Because I'm in New York right now. It's still in the, it's still fucking 40 degrees outside. I'm in L.A.

It feels beautiful. I'm sitting outside if that's an option. I had already been stuck in the back, back, back of Tom Tom. So I specifically selected outdoor. We got to Sir. Let me tell you. The place is not popping. I could have gotten four more reservations, and it wouldn't have been full. It's a big place. There's like 12 rooms. It's, sir is like very maze-like. It kind of feels like the Weasley's house. Like they've built it like piece by piece. And it's very reflective of that in that it's tacky as hell, basically. But so we go to the host stand and our

lovely hostess takes us to a table that not only is it not outside. But it's not. It's in the front room, the cute part that you always see on TV. It's not even in the room maybe next to that. We are all the way off to the side down like half a flight of stairs. Maybe not a flight of, that's dramatic. Down, we're told to watch our step more than once on the way to this table. That's what I'll say. And it's in this room that is like, first of all, the walls are just white. It looks like, you know, they just, like, forgot to paint them. Everything else in Sir is, like, purple and pink and, like, looks like there's at least been, like, thought put into it, even if it's, like, tacky thoughts.

There's, like, these ugly-ass chandeliers, one of which is hanging so low that I hit my head on it, crawling into our table, which the table was very uncomfortable. I don't know. It was, like, a big two tables that they had pushed together. Like, it was supposed to be for 10 people, but there were only six of us. It felt like you're a little kid at like a grown-up Italian restaurant, but like we were adults and we were getting drinks at Sir. And we just got a round of cocktails at Sir.

Again, I was like, oh, maybe I'll order food because I hadn't really eaten dinner at Tom Tom, like I expected. All I ate was a goat cheese ball and some surprisingly good garnish salad. So I ordered a Paloma, basic, whatever. But I was like, I'm going to get food and then I'm just looking at the menu. And I mean, the sir menu, if you've been there, you know, it is a fucking hodgepodge. They have like 25 different types of cuisines going on. They have, you know, the tuna tartar, or you could get like a fucking, I don't, like, what's another food?

You know, like, it's just the kind of menu where it feels like they've come up with like 50 things that sound appealing and then just like put them together. on a menu with no kind of cohesion. And I'm looking through this menu and it's like, nothing is inexpensive. Nothing is like, oh, that's just like a little something. I was looking through like the appetizers, the sides. Literally nothing sounded good. And I'm not like, I'm a pretty easy orderer. Like even if I'm a little bit picky, like I can always find something that's like, nothing, nothing here sounds good. And nobody else was ordering food. So I was like, I don't want us to be stuck here for an extra hour because I ordered the tuna tartar that I don't even really want to eat. I said no to getting food at Sir. We stayed for one drink. We were not there very long. We did see at Sir. Max was there, Lisa's son. I think he might live there. I've never seen him anywhere else. Peter Magrigal was there in his, he was the best dressed person in the place wearing his little suit. The ponytail is alive and well, which is unfortunate.

Peter was doing the thing of like, he's the manager, right? So he's like overseeing. But I already told you it was not that crowded in there. Peter was doing laps like every 30 seconds. Like he would come through our room, which was fucking Siberia of Sir. We were like all the way to the side. The garden, the patio, like all that pretty stuff. Like where you see Charlie like, oh, you should try the cheesecake. Like that was like a fucking mile away from where we were sitting at Sir. And Peter was literally in our room. And Peter was literally in our room. room like 20 times while we were there for one drink. I'm like, this is a telltale sign that you just like don't have anything to do. Because if there was anything going on at Sir that night, he would have been like busy. And then Guillermo was also there. Lovely, whatever. I didn't talk to any of them. I was like, I don't. If I had seen like Charlie or pretending that like Sheena or anyone works there. I would have said something, but I'm like, I don't, I don't need to interrupt Peters, like, pretending to look busy routine at Sir. But yeah, so I got to say, Lisa Vanderpump, kind of over three for me in L.A. If I go back, I would, it hurts to say, if I go back, I know I would,

I would be down to try again. I really wish I had spoken up at Sir. Because I think if I hadn't been sitting in that back-ass room, if I had been in the garden, or like, if I had been at a better table, I'm not, I'm not the kind of person who's like, I don't, I want a good table. That's not a good table. At Sir and at Tom Tom, Tom, those were not good tables. I'm not that person that's like, oh, like, could you give me a better table? But it's like, I made the reservation to say outside. What else am I supposed to do?

it's not anyone's fault. I mean, this is a first world problem. Let's be real. But, you know, let me know in a five-star review if you've had your own experiences at Lisa Vanderpump establishments. I will say, I've heard great things about her spot in Vegas.

So if I'm ever in Vegas, which, let's be real, I probably won't be, not my scene. But, you know, hats off to Lisa. So good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom Rack stores now. and up to 60% off.

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It was a very serendipitous moment. I was at the Grove, outdoor shopping area in L.A. I was basically just killing some time. And then I was like walking out of the grove to where I was going after that. And I literally see James Kennedy and his new girlfriend, whose name is Allie, walking in the parking lot to their car. I was just far enough away, but yet just close enough that I wouldn't have been positive. it was him, but I could hear his voice.

I could hear that fucking British accent. And I'm like, that, that right there is James Kennedy. His new girlfriend is adorable and very tiny, happy for him. Hope it's going well. They were at Coachella together this weekend. Who wasn't at Coachella together this weekend? Now there's like a rumor that Tom Schwartz and Raquel were making out. Oh, I can't even get into all that.

I just, I just, I'm very happy that Sheena was. at Coachella. I feel like she needed that. But yeah, that was my trip to L.A. Hopefully, hopefully you enjoyed following along on that. Let me know if you have any other questions. You can slide into the DMs at Bravo by Betches and I'll give you a little more rundown. If there's anything else you want to know about the pump establishments in West Hollywood, California. But for now, let's move on to something slightly less depressing, which was Real Housewives of New Jersey last week. So the big day has finally. finally arrived. Teresa and the daughters are moving out of that house. You all know the one,

that house. You know, I saw a lot of people being like, oh, this made me cry. This made me so emotional. And like, I get it. I think if I was in a different headspace when I watched this episode, maybe it, maybe it would have got me. But it's like, I don't know, to me, I was kind of laughing during this scene because it's just like, I get the emotional connection, but like that house is just so ugly. And so like the final moment, which I don't really believe was the final moment. I believe it was like, okay, we're filming you saying goodbye. And then I fully believe Teresa had to go back in and grab like three more bags of stuff. But when it like fades to black and white and she like does the one last look up at the house and then grabs the giant wings that

the door handles and like pulls it shut. It's just like, oh my God, that house. And it did finally sell. So congrats to them. Certainly not for the initial asking price because that was never going to happen. But the new house, I got to say, looks really nice. It looks like it's very, it's still like a Jersey house. But like in an actual context of like I can imagine somebody wanting to live there. Whereas the Chew Dice House, I mean, it's just like a monstrosity. But it was very nice. I mean, I'm happy for them. Teresa, for as much as she is really getting on my nerves this season, and we will get to the Nashville stuff, I'm happy for her being happy. Like, I want her to, I want her to have peace and happiness in her life. And the more we see of this season, I feel like

that could mean her moving away from the show and just kind of like maybe doing, I mean, maybe a spin-off, maybe a break. Who knows? I don't know how this house is being paid for. But I did, I did really like the gesture of Louis having that engraved paving stone in the backyard that says CME because that's like her parents thing. That was very nice. And I think that's like the exact kind of gesture that Teresa really appreciates. So I liked that. I was glad to see that. But then we were moving on to the Nashville trip. And I mean, it's obvious from the get-go, from like weeks in the past that Margaret and Teresa are not going to be having any kind of positive relationship with each other for the rest of this season, at least. And going into the Nashville trip, it almost seems like we could be

at a place of just kind of like, okay, let's give each other their space. and we won't really try to interact that much. But then we have Teresa, who's saying that Margaret has been talking to the blogs about Louis. And this is something where it's like, I think Teresa, I think Teresa made a mistake by saying this to Jackie. Or, I mean, maybe I'm giving her too much credit. Maybe it was deliberate because maybe she wanted Margaret to know. But I think that right when they get to the Nashville house, Teresa is actually on a good, a pretty decent page with Jackie. And she's like, oh, well, you know, ceaseless is a quinkadink that every time there's a thing that Margaret talking about the block talking about too.

And like, Teresa has to know that Jackie is going to tell Margaret that she said that right away, right away. Because whatever kind of like, whatever kind of like good page Teresa and Jackie are on, it's not anything equivalent to Jackie's friendships with Margaret or with Melissa. And so it's just like Teresa lights the fuse the second they get in the house. And it kind of feels like what it leads up to at this dinner later, it feels almost like this is kind of what Teresa has been angling for this whole season. Because like going back to, you know, going back a few weeks when they were at the Ropes course and Teresa came in so hot and heavy and basically had this whole thing against Margaret. And then at the softball game when she was making all these comments about Margaret and the thing with the leggings, it really feels like Teresa has been looking for a fight with Margaret this season.

And I'm not necessarily saying that Margaret hasn't done anything wrong. But I think Margaret is somebody who she can go back and forth yelling at you, but at the end of the day, she's like, she's going to go home to her house and not think about it that much. And it is what it is. Whereas Teresa, I think really Margaret has gotten under her skin, whether it's based on fact or an imagined reality. And Teresa isn't going to be able to move on at all until she kind of gets this climactic moment against, Margaret, it comes later on at dinner when, you know, they're, they're really having a pretty normal conversation. And Teresa brings up, you know, so Margaret knows the, the, like, realtor that got them the house. And Margaret's like, well, I know everyone. And Teresa's like, yeah, yeah, Margaret, I can tell you know everyone, including boggers. And it's just like, oh, fuck. Teresa, Teresa, Teresa, you can see this coming from a mile away. but it's just, it doesn't make it any less difficult to watch that it's just like,

Teresa, please, Teresa, and everyone at the table, every single person, even Jennifer, even Margaret, even Dolores, every single person at the table is like, fuck, because they're on this trip. It's night one. And everybody in this group, honestly, except for Teresa at this point, sort of gets along. And it's, this is not where we were a year ago. This is not where we were even necessarily at the beginning of the season where like Margaret and Melissa and Jackie are pretty much fine with Dolores and Jennifer. And Teresa really has become the, the loose screw in this whole machine. And while it's great drama and it's like exciting TV to watch,

it's not going to be sustainable. And Margaret said on, I think it was on Kate Casey's podcast last week, she did say that after Teresa through the, basically, I mean, shoved the whole table's worth of drinks at Margaret, she did say that production asked Teresa to leave the house. And on the episode, they show that Teresa and Louis are going to leave to stay at a hotel, but they certainly make it seem like it's kind of their decision because Teresa can't, you know, isn't cooled down and can't be in the same house with her.

and just the way that she's carrying on, even when Margaret's not there, the white trash, white trash, white trash, she's a whore, she's a whore. Like, it is, it's a lot. And I know that Teresa is in her love bubble. I know that she wants to protect her, protect her relationship, but it's like, it's just not the way. I know that Teresa has her loyal fans out there, but I have to think that even if you are in general team Teresa, even if you think Margaret sucks, the way that Teresa is like handling this whole situation is just so out of line. And I mean, I don't want to like chastise anyone because whatever. It's a TV show, but like get it together, you know?

Everybody's an adult. And, you know, Dolores is super conflicted. She's like, oh, well, I'm going to go with Theresa and Louis because I came here with them. And I really, I felt for Margaret in that moment when she's like, look, I know you're saying. it doesn't mean that you're choosing sides, but in this moment, it feels like you're choosing sides. And if you choose her side, what am I supposed to think? You know, like this situation, even if it turned out to be true that Margaret was talking to a blog or something, the way that Teresa handled it in the moment, it's just, it's not good.

It's not good. And it makes me nervous, whatever happens the rest of this trip, who knows, but it makes me really nervous for the reunion because I think the best reunions are when people come in with a lot of feelings to work through, but you have to be at a place where you can talk about those feelings and where you can listen and respond and actually make some progress, whether or not you leave being besties with the person. You have to be in a place. place where you can listen to them talk and respond. And I'm nervous for this reunion because I think right now, Teresa is so, she's like in this place that's so far away from being able to have a

real conversation, not just with Margaret, but with anything having to do with Louis, with anything having to do with her relationship, her kids, you know, like anything. It just feels like she is like in in a completely different area code than whatever rational conversation, somebody like Margaret or Jackie or Melissa is going to try to have at the reunion. And that is, I'm worried, first of all, that Teresa will kind of like alienate herself further. But I also am just worried that it's not going to be a very compelling reunion. If you have, you know, if you have the kind of the outsider, in a place where they aren't willing to listen or talk to anyone.

It's like, what do we do with that? I don't know. But they are, Melissa is making them go to her recording studio in Nashville and do a song the next day, which is also happening on the finale of Orange County. And I just, I don't understand, like, why is this a thing? These women don't sing. They're not supposed to sing. I don't.

Is like, is the group recording studio? and Luann did that last season. Like, what are we doing here? Is this the new, like, axe throwing, goat yoga? Like, is this just the new activity? I don't know. The OC finale was, it was an episode. I don't know.

I'm feeling a little ready for the season of OC to be over. I feel like we're not going to get a lot more out of these women. And the reunion trailer was nothing too special. But we're still on the Aspen trip. Gina and Emily are leaving their offering for the Tommy Knox. which again, I'm just like, I don't, I don't care. Noella is getting some earth medicine, which I do enjoy seeing that. I feel like Noella, you know that Netflix show that Zach Ephron got where he's like going

around and just like trying things? I feel like Noella needs to join next season of that. Like I just want to see her getting like some new kind of massage or like some like earth medicine or like some ritual. You know, I feel like watching Noella just like. like shriek and anguish with that braided leather phone strap around her. I feel like it would do well on Netflix. I would binge that.

But Gina and Shannon's issues are sort of coming to a head at this boutique and Aspen, unfortunately, for them. Emily basically tells Gina that she needs to make things right with Shannon. And Gina, for the most part, says that this comes down to her sort of resenting how she's never felt like she's on the same level with Shannon, but then somehow Noel has earned that respect right away, which I understand, but at the same time, I don't necessarily believe that Gina really wants to be close with Shannon. So it's one of those things where I'm like, I understand why Shannon kind of sucks, but I also don't think that Gina is really that upset

about it. I think it just like is the way Shannon is. But then when she confronts her, Shannon says kind of on the flip side that Gina has never really made an effort to be close to with her and that she's done all this stuff for Gina. And I mean, again, I sort of see both sides here. But at the end of the day, I'm like, I just don't think you guys want to be friends that bad. And that's okay. And I think that's like one of the hard things about balancing friendships on housewives

is that it's like there's always going to be this construct of the friend group and of the circle of friends and these ladies are sisters and all of this stuff. And like that sometimes. doesn't allow room for the idea that it's like, yeah, like, Shannon and I get along okay, but like she's not really my couple too. You either have to be like feuding with someone or like besties. And Shannon's discussion of her sort of inner circle or her core friends actually was kind of interesting to me because she's talking about how she went from a core five to now a core four. And in that, I'm like, I'm like, okay, wait, so it was like Tamara the fifth one?

They don't say that. But in my mind, I'm like, we know about one of your friends that is no longer a friend. So I would like to hear that. But she says, it's never been a core two. It's never been a core two. And I did, I did really laugh at the moment when Gina's like, well, I bet Noella is one of your core friends now, huh? And Shannon just goes, of course not. Like, damn, that was cold.

Shannon is basically Noella's only friend in the cast. And when it was suggested that she's like an actual close friend of Shannon's, Shannon's response was, of course not. Oh, that does not bode well for another season for Noella. But, you know, if all this lost, at least she'll have the Somalia to talk to about her divorce. God bless her. You know, God love her. She's looking for a new house. she moved to a new house.

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And for somebody who's been on the show for so long, I just wish I had like more. feelings about her? I don't know. I did like seeing Emily and Shane's vow renewal. I thought that was really nice. I do think, I think Emily and Shane are one of the kind of fun surprises of this season because I had never really cared that much for Emily before and I had pretty strongly not cared for Shane before. So I think they've really turned it around. It seems like in their personal life, but also just in the way that they come across on the show, which is hard to do. You know, it's her fourth season and to change minds about your position. on the show after a few years, I think is tough.

And I think Emily's done a really good job. But yeah, I mean, we're at Shannon's party. We do a little music video. Jen makes an awkward toast about how last time she and Ryan were there, they were fighting. And now, look at us. I'm like, yeah, look at you. I don't believe that things are just peachy all of a sudden.

Like, I guess you're still together, which congratulations, but like, he's literally like mortified by your toast. and then telling you that you need to stop drinking. So it doesn't actually seem like they've made that much progress, but maybe that's just me being cynical. But, you know, that's pretty much the end of the season. Noella says she's realized it's important for just not to focus on sex for a while. And I'm like, amen, sister.

You'll find another stack of vaginas one day. Yeah, it's, we'll see. The reunion trailer, it's hard to tell. But like the most entertaining part of it looks like Shannon figuring out what to do about her dress debacle, which doesn't give me a lot of confidence. But, you know, we'll see. We'll see. That's my feelings about OC. We'll see. Everything's going to be fine. I personally am very excited for tonight's new episode of Real Houseways in New Jersey. I think that's going to be a banger. I'll be back talking about it tomorrow, as well as this week's episode of Summer House. Lots

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