Mention It All - Enough Of These F*cking RHONY Rumors (RHONY, Below Deck Med)

Episode Date: August 25, 2021

Dylan and Bari begin the show by speaking out about our greatest societal issues: people believing obviously fake RHONY casting rumors. Then, they recap this week’s episode, which sees the cast once again limping to the Hamptons after a weeks-long COVID shutdown. Later, they discuss Below Deck Med, and why Katie is so reluctant to accept extra help. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer. Oh, go and Barry Rosenfeld. I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep, we. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer. And I'm Barry Rosenfeld.

Barry, hello. Hi. Hello. Hi. Hello. Good, good day. Hello. I said good day.

How are we feeling? How are we doing? I'm doing good. I'm in the midst of putting my away message on because I don't want people to talk to me for the next. Like however long we are recording. It's always, it's always like a funny thing when you, if you put up like a status or you set, you're like, do not disturb. I'm like, okay. So the thing I'm doing this for is actually going to take me an hour. But let me just set this status to last for two hours so that I can then have some like me time after I'm done with the actual pressing matter at hand. Yes. And I need to know if you agree in the sense that this whole working from home thing because it's been for so long now when I'm doing things, I'm like, God, it seems like work is just interfering with my life. Like I have things to do. So we're recording, we're recording this in the afternoon. We get the New York episodes a little early. So I was just watching the episode. And my new nightstand arrived that I had to put together.

You know, it comes, I ordered it like from Wayfair. It comes in the box. Whatever. Self assembly. So I was like, okay, let me just start putting the nightstand together while I'm watching New York. Of course, I usually am like taking notes a little bit. You know, like I have to pay attention at least. we have to, I have to know what's going on so we can recap.

Correct. And I was like, okay, I'll just start putting the nightstand together until I get into the episode and then I'll probably, you know, have to pay attention, whatever. Let me guess you did the whole nightstand. You can see my nightstand on Zoom behind me. There was not. It was awful. Let's just say it at the same time.

This was a lot less of an upsetting episode of Roney than some of. recent ones. You know, the Shabbat was definitely more of a, um, an angering experience. But this episode, it just was kind of like, didn't have any substance. There wasn't a lot going, not a lot of meat on the bones. Yeah. No, no real conflict. But you know what is, uh, much more exciting than New York right now, what's actually on the TV are these ridiculous. Oh my God. Cascade of casting rumors. that are happening behind the scenes and on social media. If you're listening to this, you have probably seen this demois post that happened this week

about how, you know, Ramona is the only one that is performing well in these demographics. And so she's staying and then they're going to keep Evony, but everybody else is going to be gone, except for Luan is going to be part-time because NBC like makes money from her cabaret shows. It was so. And then of course, Tinsley and Bellows,

Anthony are coming back. Like all of a sudden it was just like this massive amount of information and like none of it is true. And that pushes Durinda to the side. Like it's right. Like Durinda's going to be busy promoting all stars. So they're going to do that for a season. And then she can come back. And then, you know, it's just this is after. Of course, we've had the rumors that Ramona's getting fired. Ramona's not getting fired. The reunions delayed. The reunions canceled. All this stuff. Like there have just been a ridiculous amount of these sources and reports and stuff. And I just feel like, I mean, first of all, from people that I trust, like Dave Quinn and

Bryce Sander, like these reporters who actually usually get things correct, none of this is legit. I mean, it's all, everything is still up in the air. They haven't cast season 14 because season 13 is not over yet. Right. Like some of the things that are said have been, have been in conversation and passing, but they took that and ram with it. And there's a big, yeah, I feel like, first of all, some of this stuff is just like straight up fake.

But then there's also a big difference between like something that may have been part of a conversation at some point versus like, oh yeah, this is what's happening. And I feel like people are just so so eager to have any kind of news. And I feel like we kind of paint ourselves into a corner by being like obsessed with Bravo that it's like any news is like something to latch. on to and it's like, don't get attached to any of these rumors because they're just that. And these women, these women don't have a clue what's happening. Like,

they don't know, they don't know if they're coming back for season 14. I was talking to actually Fat Carrie Bradshaw earlier today. And he was, he read me the entire Jamar post. And I was like, and then after I was like, yeah,

I saw it. Like, it's very entertaining. I mean, so we read it, but like acting and I was like, yeah, I saw it already.

But anyway, thank you. And so I said, it reminds me like envisioning these producers like throwing papers in the air oh my god what do we do it reminds me of like an NFL team with like a bunch of coaches sitting there being like who are we going to who we got like they've got like the playbook i'm like okay so we could put epitone here we could take out we could put throw in a hather thompson you know their reasonings into why each each cast member is coming back or is not coming back and they're ties to whatever business i was like

guys, everyone, take a breath and just listen to our podcast. It's like... I mean, look, you've heard us talk about this season of New York for like, I think this was like the 16th episode. We've obviously, I don't think we've loved this season. If you're listening, I doubt you've loved this season. I have not seen a lot of love for this season. So of course, it's, you know, it's interesting to think about what they might do for next season, but it's just like... And yeah. You know, after paying attention to this stuff for long enough, I just have. I'm like, here we go again. And what do you know?

Calm down. After this episode just ended when we finished watching, I go, okay, that was boring. And then what do you know? They go, and next week on the season finale, I'm like, are you kidding me? I was wondering when it was going to happen because, you know, I feel like a lot of the time when these shows have weaker seasons, they trim a couple episodes and like, okay, like, I'm kind of glad we're not getting like another five weeks in the Hamptons. because I don't think I can do that again. Yes, but at the same time, like, so this season finale is a continuation of this episode as opposed to, like, bubbling up and leading up to something.

Like, they're just still at Galentine's Day. I don't know how this episode's going to end, but it's like, right. The season finale is going to be their party where they're dressing up as each other. Yeah. And Bershahn will arrive to save the day. I don't know. Do you think she got the invite to dress up as someone as well, or she's going to show up and she's going to be like,

Ramona, why don't you tell me? I don't know. I didn't think about that. I probably, if I, if I, like, sat down and thought through, I could probably figure out who's dressing up as who. Because we know Leah's, we know Leah's doing Ramona.

We know Ebony's doing Luann, but like, I don't, to be honest, I don't care that much. I'll find out next week. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know. This, okay, so this episode,

we start but still in the city you know Shabbat is behind us thank God and Ms. Sonia Morgan test positive for COVID

and so we basically it was interesting so we know they had to shut down production on New York a couple times and this time they basically just skip ahead four weeks we see Ramona like FaceTiming with Sonia

and then it all of a sudden sonia's just like emerged from her COVID cocoon where Ramona called her an ambulance she but like oh my god I can't though that was the second phone call though the first one where she was like Ramona was like oh I'm fine I took a test too and she was like okay thanks that makes me feel a lot better she goes good that's exactly what I was trying to do I was trying to make you feel better like she just doesn't like get it she's on a different planet it was that was so funny because sonia's like

that that didn't make me feel better. When you're sick and the other person is like, oh, I'm fine. I'm like, oh, I'm still sick. Yeah, that's amazing. I want to know if, okay, like, it's weird because we obviously know Sonia had like a party, but like they didn't show it and we don't know what went on or who was there or how long after she got COVID.

All we know is her living assistant Emma got it as well. Yeah, I hope Emma is. doing well. I think she is. But it's funny because I was like, oh, wow, COVID. Why is Sonia like she sounds different? Why is she doing that? No, it wasn't COVID.

It's because she was drunk in the episode. Yeah. So this phone call with Luanne was, I don't know, it was weird because they're talking about, they're talking about how they're going to the Hamptons, all this, this, that. The other, Sonia had her 103 fever. And then Sony thinks she hangs up. And she's like, I don't know. Luann is so nice to me.

I don't know why I always talk shit about her behind her back. And Louaanne is still on the phone. That was funny. That was like a true funny moment. It was funny because she was nicely talking. She was like, why do I talk shit? Like she wasn't talking shit in that moment. But I can't stop thinking about Luanne's sweater because she looked like just a walking

Ben and Jerry's container the entire episode. And I'm sorry. I was like, that is God awful. And we have seen some horrible fashion on all these shows. And I can't, I couldn't stop with this sweater. I'm sorry. We can move on from that now. It's fun to see these women in like the dead of winter.

Because we usually, they usually film in the fall and then are kind of finishing up maybe around the time, you know, before Christmas time. And so the fact they had to take these delays. And so the fact that it's like February and they're still filming, it's like, oh, this is different. Here's the issue too, because as much as we love seeing it the holidays and like Dorinda's obviously Blue Semana. We love it. We love, I love Luanne's like shows where it's a fur-beth moment. I want these women in the Hamptons in the summer.

We need to change when we're filming this, this. franchise. Yeah. It needs to be in the summer. It obviously like God willing, COVID, everything is going to be done with next year. Hopefully, please Lord, but like they need to be in the Hamptons partying wine tours like old school New York. I'm done with this. This episode is brought to you by Prime. Obsession is in session. And this summer, Prime originals have everything you want. Steamy romances, irresistible love stories and the book to screen favorites you've already read twice. Off campus, L, every year after, the love hypothesis, Sterling Point, and more. Slow burns, second chances, chemistry you can feel through the screen. Your next obsession is waiting.

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Use us directed. It's interesting that they always film in the fall usually, or at least, you know, they have for the last several years. because you don't really get to see. They always go to the Hamptons, but they're kind of just like at whoever's house. It's not really the Hampton season. You know, they're kind of just there because they have houses there. It would be kind of fun to see a drunken night out do the Hamptons more.

Bumping into their girlfriends, the guys they've hooked up with like, I need that. That's part of what was so fun. I thought this last season of New Jersey, they hadn't filmed in the summer for a long time and to see them really going down the shore having, you know, parties, hopefully COVID, what, I don't know, COVID safe, you know, really enjoying summer at the shore, down the shore, it was a fun, different flavor than what we usually get. And I think New York definitely could benefit from that. I think it seems likely that they're going to give the show kind of a little pause and not start filming right away. But I mean, it's August right now. So they would have to take a

pretty long pause to be filming in the summer next year. But we'll see. I mean, even just filming in the spring would be a different vibe for them because they really have been in this, you know, fall winter niche for a long time. Yeah. Well, we have something to possibly look forward to. And that is potentially a book tour next year because Leah's writing a non-help. An anti-self-help self-help book. If you don't want her advice, don't read it is how she's going about it. That's exactly what when Leah said she was writing a book. I'm like, okay, it's going to be this like anti-self-help thing and it is. Really? You like thought that. That's so funny. Well, because I, because they were like, is it a memoir? And she was like, well, I don't just want it to be. I'm like, yeah,

it's going to be like, yeah, it's going to be. like this is my like my journey. It's going to be like a girl boss type of moment kind of, which I mean, it's not a bad lane for her. I just don't, I feel like, unless you love Leah, I feel like the book is going to be kind of like annoying, whatever. We'll see when I'm excited. I think the cover has potential to be cool.

I'm thinking way down the line. But we'll see. Again, that's the only thing we can say about these things. How to elevate this shit. Oh my God. That's actually. A great title. You should get royalties for that.

I'll DM her and offer to sell her my title idea. Okay. I have faith. But also another good news drop. Ebony finds her dad Jude with this episode filled with good news. Filled. I'm really happy for her. Me too.

We've, this is, you know, we've seen this happening throughout the season. She's been looking she had, you know, sort of the bad. news with Ashley not being her biological sister. And then really pretty quickly, it seems she was able to, you know, figure out a different way of searching. And it worked out. I think she said recently on social media or somewhere that they still haven't met in person because of COVID stuff, but they've talked.

And, you know, things are good. And she feels like she has a family now, which is something we've heard her talk about on the show. can even tell within like a few episodes how like she went from being discouraged to like really happy and like excited once she made like when she told everyone like in her confessional which it i mean listen what can't be exciting about that that's really great news so i'm happy for her but yeah that's unfortunate that they still haven't met in person but that's what face time is for people that is what yeah we've seen a lot of face time on housewives with uh with the pandemic i'm i don't know I have mixed feelings about FaceTime scenes. Oh, FaceTime scenes. I was like in real life, though, I love FaceTime. Like, it's the best.

You're more of a FaceTime person than I am. Like, I don't just FaceTime my friends randomly, usually. Oh, my God, me. My friends, like, sit for, we just sit. Like, we're in the same room together. It's, like, fun. But, like, sometimes I get calls during my shows. And I'm like, guys, I'm working.

I'm technically working. Like, I have to watch. I mean, even I get, like, texts like that where somebody will be asking me questions and it's like in the middle of real of beverly hills and i'm like i no i can't i can't i can't i can't like think about something else right now like this is it's a full-time job that's a ticot trend right yes it's a full-time job Courtney Kardashian or no it's Kim Kardashian um well here we go back to the hamptons vamo saw la hamptons for fucking galentine's day here we go do you like my napkin, look at the napkins, look at the table, look at the candles, look how beautiful.

Look at this. Look at this. Oh, yeah. Lu, Luann gets there first. So she's subjected to Ramona's tour of the things she's changed in the house, which is like moving the couches closer together. To the couch and she was like, nothing. I don't know.

Luann's, oh, they're closer together. Yeah, because that's where you guys are eating for some odd reason because you have a dining room, but whatever. The house is beautiful. Don't get me wrong. It really is stunning. I remember I said last week, I will not stay there. I wasn't invited, by the way, but...

Maybe this house gives me more wintry vibes than summer. Like, I feel like maybe it feels... I don't know if cozy is the right word, but... Uh-uh. No, it's like too big enough. I don't know. It just doesn't give me like summery vibes.

I just don't love the vibes. Like, I don't think this would feel like a safe space for me. But, you know, I don't... It's debatable whether it's a safe space for any of the ladies in the group. But I do like that Leah is speaking up about... not wanting to stay in the same room as she was when they were there earlier the season because she was really going through it with her grandmother. And there's all this discussion of where everyone's going to sleep. And they all agree that Bershahn will be in the lower level.

Which I thought was funny. It's like she's got to pay her dues. Yeah. But at the same time, like I kind of get that regardless of who was coming the next day. Like they're not going to save a room for you on like the top level or like one of the main bedrooms and like I've said in the past like I would stay in the lower level like it is peaceful and quiet and away from everyone else but yeah I'm dying this is just so funny we're like think at the same time thank God next week is the season finale I know I know it's like we have it to us it's like we have stuff to talk about but then also we're talking about the stuff and like mid-sentence. I'm like,

the bad Jerome assignments. Okay, so let's just, we'll finish by talking about pinned lips on the hairy because, okay, to me, this game actually is sort of a perfect

illustration of what is, what's wrong with this show and like how bad things have gotten. That it's like, when we're, when, We as viewers, you know, if I make a meme about how Harry Dubin has been around the block in New York, like, okay, that's great.

I'm watching the show. I'm making a reference, all of that. But it's like when the only thing they can come up with to do on the actual show is a game making fun of how they always talk about Harry Dubin. It's like, I think they need some new material. And also the fact that while they're playing this. random ass game. He happens to call Ramona's phone. What?

Like what? I want to know. I don't think we will ever get a truly straight answer from Ramona about the nature of her relationship with Harry Dubin. And I want that is something where like if I could have the the pure unfiltered truth about like, five things. I want to know. I want to know like I want to know what Erica knew.

I want to know. Um, you know, like maybe what Vicky knew about Brooks. You want to know if Caroline or Jacqueline, uh, tipped off the feds. Oh,

maybe I want to know if Meredith Marks tipped off the feds. We'll see. We got a lot of goddamn racks in this group. It's a lot of questions. But I want to know, I, one somewhere on the list not at the very top i want to know like how intimate romona has

gotten with harry dubin no i don't though like i don't Dylan like we don't then you can you can use your wishes on something else okay our wishes are separate we don't have we can we're not splitting these okay well that we are we are leaving off new york we will be back next week for the finale. Bless our hearts. But we... Okay. What is crazy, though, to know that next week is the finale and we know for a fact they have not filmed a reunion yet. And as based on what I have heard and what seems to be the consensus from, I say this, I use this word lightly, but reliable sources, I don't even know that they have been told a reunion date at this point. So regardless of what is happening behind the scenes, they will not have a reunion ready two weeks from today.

Like, that's not going to be, there's going to be a gap. I want to know why, though, because like what would be the, oh my God, do you think that they are saying the season was that bad? They don't need a reunion. That's the only, what other option could it be to not have one? there's lots of little rumblings, you know, there's like the, the rumor that, like, Ramona, Luann, possibly Sonia, basically said that they don't want to talk about some of the issues, aka race. And so that's been an issue with like, what are we, how are we going to do the reunion? You know, there, I saw a rumor that Ebony debunked that she said was fake that somebody, somebody said that. Somebody said that, Ebony thought she was going to get fired and was trying to take legal action against Bravo for trying to get rid of her. And that that's why the reunion was delayed, which like she commented on that and was like, what legal, like, there's no legal action for being like not renewed on a show.

Like that's just how life goes. So like, no, like that's fake. I've said this in the past. Like, I just can't believe the people that make up these rumors. I know. I know. It's like. so weird. I should just like slide into random people's DMs. I'd be like, I heard from a reliable

source. I could cause, I could do a lot of damage. Yeah, you can like that way spill loads of hot tape. But yeah. I mean, I think it's at this point, I haven't seen anything definitive or heard anything definitive about why the reunion's delayed, but we know that it's delayed because they haven't done it yet. Let's talk about below deck med. Just for just for a few minutes. I thought this I thought this episode was a little fun. It's nothing super explosive, but I think this is a below-deck first, possibly,

racking my brain of that we will be having a fourth stew coming on board. I don't know that we've had that before. I mean, I write the second cannot think in all the seasons and different below-deck shows if there has been. So forgive me,

But it's certainly not the norm to have a fourth stew on below deck. My question is, and I wanted to know your thoughts on this throughout the episode and even last week, Katie made it clear like she wants she needs more help. They need more help. And that Lexi is like, you know, not doing her job correctly, et cetera. And then she's given the opportunity and she's so hesitant. And what makes it even weirder is that she's not, she doesn't have to fire Lexi. Lexi's not getting fired. You're getting extra help.

So I was just so confused why Katie was like really, truly on the fence and didn't know what to do about bringing on this fourths do. I was like you're being handed this. I think she was conflicted because the actual ideal situation or maybe not ideal. But if Lexi was pulling her weight, they wouldn't need a fourth person. And so I think she feels like it's somehow like that bringing on the fourth person is like this band-aid on the actual problem, which is that Lexi isn't pulling her weight. And so whether Sandy won't let her fire Lexi or whether she doesn't want to deal with firing Lexi, it's, I mean, whatever it is, I feel like Katie is a little bit like we shouldn't need a fourth stew. Like this boat doesn't need four stews. It's like a flaw in our department versus like needing a replacement.

So honestly, I feel like she would probably rather fire Lexi and just bring on a good, a good third stew. But Sandy is kind of, Sandy's like, why wouldn't you just want four when you could have four? And I get why she's a little conflicted. I do think that accepting that extra help is the right. decision. Totally. Because overall, Lexi took it better than I think we sort of expected her to. And I think it sort of makes it a lot easier to get rid of Lexi if she continues to

underperform and if the new person is competent. So I think it will end up being a good move. I agree. I think she absolutely should have taken the fourth. The reason I would be mad if I was on the crew is because adding another person instead of replacing another person is obviously affecting everyone's tips because you're now sharing it with an extra person. Oh, you're right.

Wow. And then we see in the preview first of all, we saw the midseason like trailer and it looks so good. There was a lot of injuries, it seems. But there's still, everybody's bleeding. Everybody's. Yeah. But this stew seems to, which I kind of had a feeling was going to happen, she is a

second stout. and not more of the thirds do and she is shown to be doing like laundry and like the beds and stuff but like we'll get there but I'm so confused how like she's gonna not confused

I'm so interested to see how she's gonna take it but she again the news who has to know why she's coming on you gotta know and I think they I think that was the other kind of element of Katie Katie's uncertainty

was is this am I bringing this person on as a fourth stew or am I bumping someone down? Or what she ends up deciding is that she doesn't want to do ranks anymore, which is essentially demoting Lexi because, you know, this whole time Lexi has been acting superior to Courtney. And on paper, she is superior to Courtney. But obviously that hasn't been reflecting in her job performance. And I don't think anybody on the crew really like thinks. that she deserves a higher position.

So I feel like this is Katie's kind of workaround to avoid, like, technically demoting anyone. But clearly it's not, it doesn't reflect well on Lexi that she's like, yeah, I don't actually think you should be like above other people. Yeah. And also when this charter was leaving and like they were please,

beyond please with Matt's food, which like, oh, I was so happy to see that too. He did a really great job. but I wanted them to also call out the fact that like Katie was working really hard and busting her ass and they were even aware of that. And then when they went in for their tip meeting like Captain Sandy was like not mad. She was like she got like an actual like the charter guest told her what the issues were. And she was like, guys, we just need to like, you know, work harder.

And like in old seasons, Captain Sandy would have like laid into them and told them what they need to do and make and make moves. And she was just like, yeah, so this is your tip. Okay. I sort of agree, but I also think that one of the frustrating things about Captain Sandy is that she's always been really hot and cold with what she decides to care about and what she lets slide. And so I think in past seasons she might have gotten mad, but also three episodes ago,

she might have gotten mad. And you never, you never really know what's going to. upset her. And so that's kind of like the annoying thing is that, you know, somebody could give the smallest little piece of feedback or like, you know, Malia with the slide or something.

And it's like a big issue. Whereas like, okay, if your guests really felt like they weren't being paid attention to the whole charter that's pretty bad. Luckily, they still got a good tip. But oh my God, in the morning when they had been up for so long

and they had to like make their own drinks and Lexi down in the galley being like, yeah, nobody's up yet. I, oh my God, that made me so mad. I was so mad on Katie's behalf. It did because Katie was like, you have to stay up there until one of us. It's almost like she didn't realize. You have to stay up there unless one of us come. You can't just check every 30 minutes whether someone's up because if someone gets up

right after you check and then is waiting 30 minutes to get a drink. It's like, that's not how this is supposed to work. Yeah. I don't know. It was, it's no. good, but the October Fest was, was a success. And, oh, I did feel a little bad when they were like, come up, come up. And Lexi was like, no. So I have to clean up your guys's mess after you had fun already with the char guests. I was like, I actually agree with her on that. But they were like, she's not,

she's not wrong all the time. Like there are moments. There are moments as much as Lexi rubs me the wrong way. There are definitely moments when I'm like, yeah, I get it. I guess that's a compliment. You're not wrong all the time. You know, a broken clock is right twice a day. So, oh, well, okay. Well, we will be back on Thursday with another episode. Obviously, we're going to be talking about Beverly Hills. And we have a very exciting interview with none other than Crystal Kong Minkoff.

We talked about everything. We got into it. Amazing. We asked her about Sutton. We asked her about finding Nemo. We, it's a good story. It's a, I think it was a really fun interview. I'm excited for you all to hear it.

And of course, she told us that this week's episode of Beverly Hills is another doozy. So we will be recapping it. I'm actually nervous, but out of all of our interviews, and we don't say this that often, because, like, we do a lot. And we love everyone. but like crystals was one of my favorite. She was very genuine. She was very cool, real funny.

Like I actually thoroughly enjoyed talking to her. So I hope you guys enjoy listening. Yeah, she's great. She's great. Beverly Hills. Wow. I feel like my week just peaks every Wednesday at 8 p.m. So.

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