Mention It All - Erika Jayne Is An Outfit Repeater Ft. Taylor Jackson (RHOBH)

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

Dylan is joined by Betches’ own Taylor Jackson to talk about all things RHOBH. They chat about what makes Sutton so interesting, and Taylor shares the story of her Sutton run-in in LA. Then, they recap this week’s episode, where the ladies return to La Quinta for the opening of Kyle’s latest retail venture. They discuss whether Sutton and Dorit’s issues are any of the group’s business, Crystal’s strong reaction to the policing of feelings, and Erika’s growing desperation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and today I am thrilled to be joined again by a good friend of mine. And, of course, you know her as a senior content manager at Betches. Please welcome Taylor Jackson. Hi, everyone. I'm so happy to be back.

Who am I replacing? Who couldn't you get on the show? You're not replacing anyone. Yeah, I was like a last minute thought. He's like, oh, Taylor, can you do this somewhere? Can you swing it? No, unlike last time you were on the show when you were like, maybe like a third choice? I was the third choice.

What was I this time? You were the first person I asked. I'm actually, I really did not believe that in the slightest. I'm now nervous. No, you were the first person I asked, but I was, so I was off yesterday because it was my birthday. I had a very chill birthday. So yesterday's episode with Carlos King, which you should listen to if you haven't yet because it was very entertaining. We recorded that last week and I was like, okay, who do I want to talk to when I'm coming back from my day off? I know I'm going to be like

not in the mood to really like work that hard. Exactly. I was like Taylor Jackson. Taylor Jackson, because I am fun. I am easy and we're just besties. And I know you are a big real house size of Beverly Hills fan. Of course. But before we get to. into that. It was your birthday yesterday and I have a little something for you. Oh, Jesus Christ. For us, actually. What's happening right now? Okay. Just a little something to spunk up the episode. Are we going to drink right now? It's 11 a.m.

We're going to drink, but we're not going to drink what you think we're going to drink. Oh, fuck. We are going to get juiced up today on some. Taylor just pulled out of her backpack. Two cans of bang energy. This one I'm holding is blue raz. And do you have a cut? Rainbow Unicorn? I know you didn't like this one. So yes, but I'm going to do Rainbow Unicorn.

I've never had this, guys. But a little running bit between Dylan and I is Bang Energy. He sent me a, listen, guys, he sent me a photo two days ago of a fridge full of it in like a CVS or something. And he said, should I buy this for the podcast on Thursday? And we could like get crazy. I'm like, yes. And I said, I hope you're being serious. But I have an inkling that you weren't.

And it was your birthday. So I stopped by the store this a.m. And got us some bang energy. Best gift ever. ever gotten. Wait, I'm going to do a little ASMR with the can. Okay. And now. Wow. And now, ready? Cheers.

Cheers, babe. And look, he's guys, he's got like an X-L cold brew next to him, too. You're going to be bouncing off the damn walls. Oh, fuck. You have to take sit. I'm going to have to go home after this because I'm going to be, like, chained to the toilet. You know who wouldn't, you know who wouldn't drink a bang energy right now? Who?

Diana Jenkins. Diana Jenkins doesn't even know what buying energy is. She'd be like, actually my lifestyle doesn't really require energy. I just sit at home and wait for people to bring clothes to me. She's like, I've never been into a CVS before. I've never been in a position where I felt myself needing energy. I don't think she ever has been in that position. I, okay, so Beverly Hills were a few episodes in.

I'm in, I'm loving having it back. It just feels correct. Yes. What are your feelings about this season? in so far before we get into this episode. Okay. So we're on episode three. First episode made me ball my eyes out, as I'm sure it did everybody. I watched it in the office.

How? Because I was like, I had this greener and I watched it like a couple days before it aired. And I was just like doing it at work because I, like, something, you know, it's my job. And I literally am sitting at my desk, like, fully just like eyes welling up. I'm like, crying. other than like I think everyone is here for this season I think everyone is I don't know so I feel some people are trying to be involved Lisa Rana trying to be way too involved you know I feel Sutton is right she started out as you know not the villain because I think a lot of people are team Sutton as I have my feelings of I like I like I like her and then some things I don't like like about her but I feel like everyone came ready to fucking go yeah I agree I think with Sutton, the position she's in, it's not so much that she's a villain, but that she is never going to, she's never going to not say what comes to her mind.

Absolutely ever. Because we see in this episode, this is like a major topic of conversation, that it's like the stuff that comes to her mind and therefore the stuff that she says a lot of the time is a little bit off. And I think that is what makes it so, that's what makes her, at least for me, her so fun to watch on this show. Because sometimes the other women just don't quite know what to do with her. And I don't think it's that she's a villain. I think it's that she's like a little, just ever, it's just a little bit off, a little bit off putting. A little bit uncomfortable. A little bit clumsy, as Diana said.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. She's going to say whatever she wants, wherever she wants, whatever the situation. is and you're right. These ladies obviously don't know how to handle it. Right. Erica now is just, you know, she's just trying to, I think she's trying to do like, um, just get everyone else against like Sotton as you saw last night. She was like, see, yep, slander, da, da, da, da, you know what I mean? All that stuff. And then Kyle didn't know really how to handle Sutton. Erica is in a really tough spot. You know, she is having to wear things for

the second time. Oh my God. We see her packing for this trip to Lakina, which first of all, I like that I like that we've established Kyle's Lakeinta House as kind of like the Berkshires of Beverly Hills. Like it's a good spot. I like that half the group stays at the house and half the group has to go to the hotel. That's kind of like a fun

atmosphere. But like seeing Erica packing, having three people help her pack for this trip and they're like, they're like, well, you wore this Burberry moment to Christina Aguilera in Vegas three years ago. But I guess we could break it out again. And she's like, I don't know.

I think it's going to be. at night. It's like, well, how long are they going to, how long are they going to be there? Can't be more than three days. And it's not even a vacation.

No. I mean, any housewives trip is at its core a work trip. Yes. But like, they're never going anywhere for more than like four days on these shows. So it's,

it is always funny to me, the ordeal that goes into packing to like stay at Kyle's house for three days with one, with one event. That is just like a store opening where everybody's wearing caftans. You literally go to the store and walk around the store and say, oh my God, it's beautiful in here, Kyle.

Congratulations. And then go home. Erica didn't even have to, like, she's poor. So she didn't even have to bring her credit card. She's poor. She tells us,

she's like, it's grim right now, ladies. It's grim. Interface is like this. She's like, it's grim right now. But yeah, she's in a different position than usual because she can't,

she's like, normally I would sell all this designer shit and just get new designership, but now because of the bankruptcy, I'm not allowed to sell anything. So I guess I have to wear some stuff more than once. It's like, you're really not. I think she, she thinks that she's being, like, funny and kind of, like, more relatable in a way. And I'm like, I feel like she's acting as if this, the past season and the past like year and a half of her life is over and didn't happen.

Yeah. And Sutton said the same thing. She's like, she's acting like there is no, like, lawsuit. There's no legal shit going on, but there is. Right. And it almost feels, I know we, it feels like we throw around the term gaslighting too much, but I don't know how else to describe how she is acting like all of these questions that people have had about her for the last two years have been resolved and are totally in the past, which I am not aware of that when that happened. Clearly, some of the women don't seem to be aware of that either. But she's like, she's like, see, now if you're still saying that I'm a liar, it's 100% just you. being like a vengeful bitch because I've been fully exonerated. And it's like, just because you say it doesn't make it true. Exactly.

And I think with Sutton, which this is why I think Erica is so, like, so hard, like, you know, so mean to her. Like, is because Sutton's not afraid of her. And I think Erica thinks that everybody's afraid of her. Lisa Renna has to be a little bit afraid of Erica because the way she acts around her. I think all of them are very like stepping on eggshell, like, like, yeah, stepping on eggshells. And Sutton's like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, Lisa Rina is an interesting one.

I think to me it seems like because she's in that sort of core group, like the Fox Force 5 or whatever, like as long as she stays good with the women in that little click, then she's pretty secure on the show. Like if she still has Doret and Erica and Kyle kind of on her team, then she's probably not really going to get called out for anything. Yeah. But like, so yeah, I think because it's like Garcell doesn't need Lisa Rina. Satton doesn't need Lisa Rina.

No. Crystal doesn't give a fuck. Yeah. Diana, who knows? But like. She doesn't even know. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I definitely don't think Lisa Rina would want to make more enemies on the show because then I think she would,

things would get tougher for her. And right now I think she kind of is able to just like skate by a little bit. Yeah. And then come in with like the stupid drama about the table at the gal and all of that. stuff and like kind of create a storyline but not even. Yeah. And even like this on this week's episode when they're having that talk at Kyle's house in Lakeinta, like, Rina is sort of being like a good friend to Derreet.

Like she's like, she says they're like getting away from the issue and what really matters is how Derreet's feeling and all of that. And I'm like, wait, like, do you like, do you care about her feelings? It's like that's surprising too. Yeah, I mean, she maybe does in this moment for, because, you know. Yeah. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off.

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when you tear open that envelope, it's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. So going back a little bit, at the beginning of the episode, Crystal has the women over to her house, minus Sutton, who's in Austin working on her cashmere line. Apparently. But Kyle, of course, brings to the table what Sutton had said about her the last couple episodes and Derreet had left this voicemail for Kyle where it sounded like she was having a panic

attack and be like yeah so like Dorit's really not good so we need to talk about this thing with Sutton and it really feels like I think everybody could agree Sutton's reaction was a little off what she said was a little insensitive but it really feels like Kyle is trying to make something happen story as she always does I feel like Kyle is the one to start to stir the pot and this felt like to me, like you're at the eighth grade, your typical lunch table and the one girl isn't there, she's absent for the day. So then all the other girls come around be like, did you hear what so-and-so said? And like about you and like points to the girl she's talking about and creates this drama. And Garcel, I love her. Yeah. And she was like, I don't think we, I think we should talk about

this, but when Sutton is here. Yeah. And the thing with what, with what Kyle's doing with this Sutton thing, it's, first of all, last episode, she already, filled in Doreet on what Sutton said. And to me, that was, that made a little more sense because it was directly about her. And it's like, Doreet's in a fragile state. If Sutton's not going to be that empathetic, it makes sense that Kyle would be kind of like looking out for Doreet's feelings. But to me, it's like, okay, so like you told Doreet and then there's no real reason you need

to bring it up with Diana and Erica and Lisa. The peanut gallery. When Sutton's not even there, because all of a sudden it becomes this thing. where everybody in the group is talking about how Sutton is like this clumsy and sensitive, can't be empathetic. Erica's like filing it away under her file of like, see, there's a common thread. Yeah. And yeah, it does feel like one of those things where it's like, I don't know, like, it doesn't,

that doesn't make it feel like Kyle's actual intention is to like clear things up and make Doreet feel okay and all of that. because it's like, then just get, what she should be doing is getting Sutton, Doreet, and her in a space where they can talk together. Exactly. Because now you have too many cooks in the kitchen. Right. With too many opinions about Sutton already.

Yeah. And it's like having someone look at you and like, like, like, they didn't need to know that. They didn't, it wasn't necessary. Yeah. The one thing, though, it was, I did like seeing that because Crystal then had that information, she was able to bring it up with Sutton when they got to the hotel in La Quinta. Yeah. And Sutton, I think it's kind of wild, considering where they were at a year ago with each other,

it feels like Sutton feels really comfortable with Crystal and like being open with her. And like it seems like they actually have sort of like done the hard work of working out their issues in like a real way. And it doesn't feel. Because like sometimes on housewives, when people, people have a disagreement and then they decide to make up that they're going to be friends again. It's like I still feel like five seconds from now you could be yelling at each other if like somebody said the wrong thing. Whereas with Crystal and Sutton, like it does feel to me like there's been some genuine work done there. I was going to say very genuine and watching them together.

They seem like they're hanging out without the cameras there or they're calling each other catching up with each other, like without the cameras without the show. Like for instance on I think last week's episode when Sutton is. and Lisa, you know, hug and makeup at the dinner. And Kyle's like, oh my gosh, I was like, I hated that so much. Like, obviously that wasn't genuine. Obviously, like, you know what I'm saying? Right. Because, I mean, the whole Elton John Gallo thing is weird because it's like that's one of

those things where it feels like there, there is an answer out there about exactly what happened. And there was. I mean, she had the receipt. Right. But then it's like, okay. So then if Lisa got some email. that said something different,

she could find that and show that. So it feels like one of those things where like, it's not, it doesn't need to be this like he said, she said thing. And so I think Rina at that point kind of realized it was like a losing battle and like made up with Sutton.

But it's like it doesn't actually feel like they really are. Friends. Loving each other. No, they're definitely not. I don't think so. Now Lesa. Now Lesa.

Now Lesa. Yeah. Sutton's faces are amazing. Yeah. Like when, like Diane, I'm sure we'll get to that one, calls her clumsy right to her face. Yeah. She's looking, um, Suntz like this. Did you die when, um, when Diana didn't know what an outlet store was?

There, like, can we unpack her entire being, her entire self? Sure. She, we can attempt to. She is, she is, it's, it's intriguing to watch her. Yeah. Because it's almost like she doesn't even know how to act as a real human being. Or it doesn't have to act like a real human being. For instance, when they get to, she's staying in the hotel in Palm Springs.

She gets there and she's like, oh, I have my stylist, my makeup artist. They all get there before me to make sure everything's good and how I like it. Right. She's like, the sheets have to be right. The clothes have to be steamed. And the pillows have to be correct. It's like, she's like, I want to feel like I'm at home where I. however I am and it's like, but you're out of, you're not. You're not. And how about when the makeup

artist was like, and she, she doesn't like her back to windows. So we need to move the, we need to move the chairs accordingly. I'm like, this is a weekend trip. What, three, four day trip? I'm not even sure. I'm, me personally, I'm going to Spain by myself in a month and have, I don't even have hotels booked. Okay. They're like, they're acting like the president is coming to stay at this house. They're like, we have to secure all the, the entryways, the perimeter. has to be laid out. Yes. They're like checking for bugs.

Like, like. Right. Like cutting a hole in the mattress to make sure there's not like cameras. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is she does seem like somebody who has a very like everything about her is so much. And because we're just meeting her, it's hard to really get a sense of whether this is like

truly how she is. Yeah. all the time. Yeah. Or if it's kind of like, if she's doing a little bit of like a performance art thing of like, this is who she's going to be on the show. I'm so rich. She's giving me Kathy Hilton without the personality.

Yeah. No, I literally, I was just thinking about Kathy and like, because I think last season, everybody was like, oh, Kathy Hilton is so quirky and fun and like, cookey and out there. And like, it definitely feels like to a certain extent she's kind of like playing that up for the show. Like that's kind of her character on the show. And I think we haven't seen enough of Diana yet to get a vibe of whether this is like truly just how she is. Because if that's the case, I think I like her a little more. Yeah.

But like if it starts to feel like she's kind of like if she's pretending to not know what an outlet story is because she thinks it'll make you contribute to this like mysterious rich woman persona, that's annoying. But I think she might be for real. She might be for real. I don't know. I need to see her like an action a little bit longer. But I just feel like, yeah, she's very out of touch with reality. But it's almost, she's always making it too obvious that, obvious that she's out of touch with reality. Whereas like, Kathy Hilton would do things.

You'd be like, okay, she's so rich and like she's just kind of out of touch. And like she was kind of quirky. But like right now it's giving me like bragging. It's giving me. Oh, I was there when like Kim got robbed. Like, okay, why did you even add that to the conversation? Yeah. It's a little bit like, I think there are similarities with Kathy, but then in terms of like the money aspect of it, it's kind of the opposite because she said in the last at Harry's birthday in the last episode, she's like, oh, it's the Nouveau-Riche.

Like when you're, when you pour and you become so rich so fast, like you buy all the Cartier rings. And like, Kathy is very has like a very old money vibe to her where it's like, where it's like, oh, yeah, like, of course we're due. Of course we're on the jet to this place and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. but like it's not it's not like a thing it's just like that's the lifestyle whereas with diana it's like yeah like of course the designer send me the clothes because i don't want to shop and it's like wait what yeah it's it's like excuse me but she's also i've noticed like i was noting from last night's episode like how the women act around her and they are like i feel like erika is trying to be buddy buddy with her and trying to almost impress her with like i don't i don't know yet what oh erika

Erica is like She like has a boner for Diana Jenkins She literally does She's I mean we saw last episode She's like Erica Jenkins Doesn't have the same ring to it But the money would be nice And then this time she's like

She's like oh bitch Like you have to buy Like she's telling Diana to buy the Cardi A ring In like a different color And it's like Because she can't afford it I don't know she's like weird She's like maybe in the future

Right now bitch I can't afford it And it's like what's like Things are grim is what she says Like, it's weird to me how, like, fun, she thinks it's, like, fun that Diana has money. And I'm like, why do you care? Why do you think she cares? Because she's broke. She's like, she's like, wait.

She's like, I was told Diana was paying for Crystal stuff at this party. Is there any way I can hop in on that? Can we do a split C's, Crystal? Can you write me on check? I think that's next. I think she, I don't know. And then it seems like everyone kind of feels intimidated by her. I haven't seen her and really react until the comments.

But I feel like Kyle's trying to impress her. I feel like they're all kind of like, I don't know, it feels like the new girl in town. That's like the super rich, cool girl. But I don't get the, I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it. Imagine if we got a scene that was like Erica going to Diana's house to ask her for money. That would be. Bravo producers, I beg.

I don't care if you have to stage it. I don't care if you have to have stunt doubles. Please. They're going to like, they're going to like dub over whatever Erica actually said. and be like, I, they can have, I'll go and I'll do the voiceover. Diana, can you please write me a check? And it's like almost so robotic and her lips aren't even like, and it's just like, it's like, then it's like a cuts to Diana just like her face.

So she's like, maybe, maybe Erica should work on getting Sutton's trust back because we know Sutton could write a check too. When she was reading the receipt and she was like, I thought she was going to, she was going to reveal her amex card baby. was ready to write that shit down. I was, I was living for her, putting on the readers and being like, I'm 50. Like, okay. So you're confirmed for two tickets, $11,500.

Charge the MX. There we go. Like, that is like. I fucking love that. You guys know, you know, I met Sutton last summer in August. I was me and my bestie, Molly, were sitting, getting drunk in a, at this place called Pink Taco in L.A. and it's like you would never expect Sutton to be there. Let me just tell you that.

You would expect me to be there for sure. But we're sitting at the bar and I'm like, I take a double take. Sutton is standing right there. I'm like, I kind of wave like this. And she gives me this cute little wave. And then I go, I go like this. I tell her to come over. And she comes over.

Talks to us for about 15 minutes. She was a little like drunk off margaritas. I mean, I was obsessed with her at that point. She was with her gay assistant. Josh. Yes, she was with job. Josh, Josh from Louisiana on Instagram. We follow each other, I believe.

Yeah, he's amazing. And they were, and she was like, oh, and actually, I was like in the real time. I think they might have been filming because she's like, I'm going to move out of my house today. I'm moving out of Kyle's house and doing the new house. And she was wearing this like jean short, like white shirt and then the belt must have been about, I don't know, fucking $10,000. It was like, Dolche Anka on a Couture belt. I'm like, you look so cute. She's like, oh my God.

I'm like, this is just like, this is nothing. I'm like, babe, your fucking bag could pay for my. It's my salary, literally, the work in you're holding right now. And then I was watching the episode of when she was moving out of Kyle's and she was in the same outfit. I was like, it really is, it's wild when you feel like, oh, I was like right there. I was like there. I was like drinking margs with sun.

I love that story. And of course, I was getting like live texts. Oh. Live fucking text. I'm like, what do you want me to ask? Anything? No, you, because I, you actually, I remember you texted me and you were like, she's with a guy. Like, who do you think it is?

And I was like, well, is it her son? I sent you a picture of her son. You were like, no, no, no, no. And I was like, is it this guy? You were like, yes. 100%. They're like actually BFFs. They hang out all the time.

They do, she has like a karaoke room in her, in her new house and they do karaoke. That's kind of a goal. Should, okay, I think we could get to the karaoke room, you and I. Okay. You know, Josh. You, Sutton sent you a cake and I saw it in the fridge still. Okay. Should I try?

Can I try? Can I try? Can I try? I don't know if there's any left, but also it's been in the fridge for a week at this point. But it's a cake. I mean, come on. Do I care about my body? I'm drinking a bang energy right now.

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Our next obsession is waiting. Watch only on Prime. Okay, well, what did you think about Kyle's new store? Um, the logo could be changed. I don't understand why it says Kyle in one font, and then it says Kyle and Shihita right below in another font. I'm like, Kyle, I know that you're like the famous one here, but it's like, it's kind of rude. Why is your name on the store twice? Why don't they call it KS or like K&S?

And I don't know. Is the store called Kyle? What's the store called? Right, because it's like, Kyle and Shahida are both people's names. Like, Shihita is the other woman. And so it's like, the line I think is called like Kyle and Shihita. But it's like, that's a mouthful. That's a mouthful.

And then it's like, is the store the same as the clothing line? Or could Kyle theoretically, like, is it Kyle's store and she could start selling like other shit there? Wait, is, well, is she designing the clothes? Or she has a people doing that? I feel like she is like... Overseeing it? I feel like she's like saying yes and no to things. Okay.

She's doing the version of designing that somebody like her would do. Okay. Back to the name of the store, the logo is if she needs a graphic designer. It's all over the place. I know it's just simple words, but it's just not aesthetically pleasing. I think there could be something. So if there's any graphic designers in the L.A. area, reach out to Kyle. I'm sure she would be happy to hire.

you. I was really laughing at the back at Crystal's house at the beginning of the episode when Kyle is like setting the scene for the fact that they're opening a store. And Rina just goes, another store. I know. And she's like this. It is just so funny because obviously we all saw the Kyle by Aileen two journey. But then also Rina had a store back in the day before she was even on the show, Belle Gray. Well, I didn't even know that. Because it's Delilah Bell. And I'm Amelia Gray. Oh, Belle Gray. Yeah.

It closed, though. Tragically. It seems like all of them. I feel like Sutton's slaying the retail, retail game. Yeah, it's hard to know because I feel like the thing about Sutton's, like the position Sutton is in is that she's rich enough that the store. It's not going to go under. Right.

Like, it doesn't need to be lucrative. It's just like her project. Yeah. She's like a fun little hobby of hers. I like to have something on my own. That's not like a minor league baseball team. or like a basketball team. But yeah, we, so they go back from,

they go back from the event to Kyle's house. And she's like, Gustavo. Like, she has like restaurant owners there, like making a full meal. I'm like, I, that's what I want when I get home and I'm drunk. And I'm like, hang out. Oh, my God. Instead of ordering like $34 door dash of McDonald's that I, I'm not even awake for when it's delivered. I just get home and be like, I want the nachos.

I want the pizza. Yeah, and it's like legit food. It's like good food. I could tell also. I think things escalated quickly because they were drunk. They were drinking a lot at the opening. And then they were getting home and drinking and everyone drinking something different. So that's why I think emotions were running high when like Crystal started to cry.

And like, I don't know, I felt a very like sitting end of the night with the girls all drunk. Someone says one thing. And then it's like, but this is how I feel. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I think so at Kyle's event, Doreet and Sutton had had a moment. Of course. And Sutton apologized and sort of explained herself a little bit.

And they sort of moved on. It felt a little bit. A little bit. I think it's going to take some time, clearly. I think it was a good starting point. I think Doreet was kind of like, thank you for saying that. Okay. But then when they got back to the house, it's unclear whether maybe Garcell, because

Garcell is the one that kind of brings it up again with the, group. And I feel like maybe Garcel didn't know or wasn't told that Sutton and Derreet had had that moment at the store. Because watching it, it felt a little bit like we maybe don't actually need to have this conversation now because Sutton and Durit already talked. But I think from Garcell, I think Garcel was trying to do the right thing by being like, Kyle brought this up before when you weren't here. So now that we're all together, it feels like, you're all together. It feels like, we need to readdress it. Yep.

And. Because she's not the one to usually do that. But I, like, I agree with you. I don't think she knew that DeRite and Sutton had had their moment. Right. And so I think the problem, though, is that it's like Sutton and Kyle and Derreet had kind of all talked about it enough that it didn't need to be like a thing again. Yeah. But then when Garcell brings it up, all of a sudden you have Erica and Rina and Diana and Crystal who all also have.

also have feelings about this. And like, this is when Diana volunteers that she, having just met Sutton like a week ago, what she thinks is happening is that Sutton is clumsy with her words, which I think is actually a pretty good observation about Sutton. But the way she says it, you would think that Sutton was not there. I was, when they were showing like the preview clips of it, I was like, they have to be, like, separated. Like, they can't, all of them can't be together.

Like, it has to be like an Erica, Rina. Diane thing and like the rest of them. But she was sitting right there. You and I as close as we are. Right. She says it while Sutton's sitting right there. And Erica chimes in. She's like, bingo, right on the money.

Sutton fucking sucks. Like that kind of thing. And it's like, preach. Yeah. It's like, okay, this is not like the productive environment to have this conversation. No. Because immediately, obviously Sutton is feeling like she's kind of pushed up against a wall.

She is. And like we were saying about Sutton and Crystal's like thing with each other this season. And Crystal kind of sticks up for her and is like, well, like, you know, she was talking about her feelings. And I think that that is, you know, that's valid because that's why she, you know, she maybe the thing she said was insensitive. But when she's explaining her thought process and why that came out of her mouth, you don't get to be like there, you weren't empathetic if she says that she was. Exactly. And I don't know. I mean, I do.

I get the comparison that Crystal's making, but also. When we went back to talking about violated again, I'm like... Can we stop? How? We got to drop that. But what I was more mad about... Okay, so Crystal bringing that up, fine comparison, I guess. And it does go to show that she and Sutton were able to move past that.

Yes. But the fact that Kyle, like, Crystal, like throws the bone out there. And Kyle picks it up and is immediately like... And I thought violated was too strong of a word. And it was, you were being too dramatic. And it's like, Kyle, we did this a fucking year ago. Let's drop it. This is not even what it's about.

Right. And Sutton. Crystal was literally just sticking up for Sutton. Right. And like the violated thing in the first place was something that Crystal said about Sutton and didn't feel supported in the group. And now when she's bringing it up again, she's not trying to make it an issue. She's saying like, like, Sutton is good.

Sutton is like, yeah, I understand. And Kyle is still like, no, I thought it was too strong. Personally, I disagreed with it. And Kyle is. And Kyle is. And Kyle's the one in every episode. Like this, it's not about you. It's about Doree.

It's not about. So why are we, why are you bringing that back up from a year ago? It's not about that. Right. Like even if you don't, even if Kyle doesn't think it's a fair comparison, which fine, I, it, I just don't get why she still seems so hyped up about what happened a year ago when it didn't even involve her then. I know. I know. It's not about you, Kyle.

How about that? Goodbye, Kyle. Not about you. see your way out of the combo. It's not about you. Who's the, oh, is Gina. It's not all about you, Bronwyn.

There it is. There we go. There it is. But yeah, I mean, this conversation, it's all over the place. It feels like we're going back in circles. And like I know, Crystal, like, I feel for it. Like, she was just trying to express how she fell and how, like,

you know, she was trying to be like, listen, I know Sutton's. said this and Sutton and I had our past, but look where we are now. And I didn't feel so like how everyone's making Doreet feel like obviously, because it's a very emotional, like, traumatizing thing. But she's like, I didn't get that feeling. And I know it's not, I know you, and what Garcela says, you can't compare the two situations, but you can't tell someone else how to feel. Right. You can like, you can, you can acknowledge that the scenarios are different like severity. Yes. But still talk about the idea of supporting other people's feelings.

and validating them. Exactly. And I think that Crystal kind of like says that people don't give a shit about her feelings basically. And DeRite really gets like riled up about that. And she's like, it's not true. Like, how could you say that? And I think it's one of those things where like I think the women in the group, I think most of them like Crystal. I think they want to be friends with Crystal.

But I think Crystal is kind of challenging them to, actually like show up for her. Be a friend. Right. That it's like she's not saying these women hate her. She's not saying that they're like horrible people. Yeah. She's explaining that she hasn't felt like her feelings are validated and like heard.

And I think it's it's sort of telling that most of the women in the group can't really like comprehend that or aren't sort of willing to like shut up for a second and like think through that because it's like all they hear is like you're telling me I'm a terrible person and you hate me. Yep, exactly. Everyone wants to talk all the time, whatever it may be. Yeah. Everyone is like I feel that away. I feel that way about Kyle. I feel that way about Renna when sometimes you don't need to say anything. Erica's ready to jump in at a moment's notice and make it about Sutton again. Oh, anything. Like it could be about anything. She's like, because Sutton's like, I think it's important that you like respect how you treat people or people's feelings. And

And the way that Erica immediately is like, So do you respect how you treated me last year? Because you're treating me like, shit, you fucking bitch. Like. Or when she's like at the dinner table two episodes, you're like, you're going to say sorry to me? And Sutton's like,

no, fuck you. Yeah, it feels like Sutton at this point is pretty content to just like not fuck with Erica. Yeah, she's like. But Erica keeps bringing it up. Chihuahua.

That's what, that's what Erica is a chihuahua. And it's like, I think because it feels like Erica thinks when she does that, she's really like bringing the heat and like sort of putting the pressure back on Sutton. But I think Sutton doesn't give a fuck. Sutton's not trying to win Erica's friendship back. She's not trying to, she's not really trying to like make more friends in the group.

Like I think Sutton sort of surprisingly given the fact that she's still one of the newer people in the cast, like Sutton's position is pretty secure. I think so, too. And she's not out here being like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. please just like me, please just like me. Like she's not going to do that. And so it's a little, it's starting to feel a little bit like thirsty that Erica keeps kind of trying to have these moments with her because it's like Sutton doesn't want to have a moment with you. She wants to like forget you exist.

Exactly. And listen, Erica, Sutton's out here paying $11,000 for a table. She doesn't give a fuck about your friendship. All right. She's got the MX. She's got her store. She's got it all figured out. And I do agree with you.

I think she's the realest. And I like the realist one, but she is, I think. The realest one in the cast. Garsell included. Yeah. I think she's the realist just in the sense that she is not putting on any kind of. She's not overthinking. And like sometimes because she is more real, it isn't that flattering of her.

Like the stuff she's, I think the stuff she said about Derey and the held at gunpoint thing earlier in the season. And like, it was, it wasn't good. Yeah, that's the downside of being kind of unfiltered and real. And I like that Sutton is kind of willing to show us the good and the bad of that. Me too. And she's not holding on to the, like, if she was, like, insecure about her spot on the show, she would probably hold on to that Erica storyline this season too. But like she's, Eric was holding onto that storyline trying to make, like, trying to light the fire.

And Sutton's like, I don't need that anymore. I'm done with it. Yeah. Erica's in a really interesting position because it's like she clearly doesn't want to engage with the stuff that's actually going on. Yeah. Like she mentions the bankruptcy and that she can't sell her clothes. And she talks about how she can't afford the Cartier ring. But she's not willing to acknowledge the fact that there are still lawsuits and all of this stuff.

Like she is only going to, she's only portraying this narrative that she, her name has been cleared. And she's basically like, in the clear. This like victim that just needs to like be rich again. But like. And it's honestly, it's coming off a little desperate. Yeah, but she's she's kind of like run out of. It's like what else are what else are you bringing to the show? And when she was on Watch What Happens Live last week with Christine Quinn,

that episode was like it felt like she was trying to be like a comedian. And she kept like cracking these jokes or like whatever. And she and it just like falls so flat because I. She thinks she's really funny and she's not. She's not. But there was a moment in this episode at the store when Kyle's giving her little speech. And she's like, she's like, yeah, like, everyone's so busy and we all have so many balls in the air. And she's like, she's like, ladies, like, don't make the pun.

And Erica's like, that and have balls in the air. And it's like, it's like, first of all, like, nobody needed to make that joke. But also, like, she thinks that that is like, she thinks that that's like her being kind of like off color and hilarious. And it's like, no, it's like, that's just kind of like, you're looking desperate. You're you are. Like, the first episode of the season, she's like, I've been having a lot of sex. I'm like, okay, great, cool. Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, I don't. I feel like Erica is one of those people where it's like, I think she has, she can be a really good housewife. And like, there have been a lot of like good moments that she's had, like, entertaining, watchable moments that she's had on the show. But I just feel like this season, it's like, feels like she is really kind of. of like looking for that like spark again. And I just don't know that it's there. I think she's looking for it within Diane.

Diana. Sorry. Diana. There's an A. Yeah. You know? Maybe she can get with Diana's son. Yeah.

Ennis. 20's two. Not much different than her fiance. Remember, this is my favorite line from son. She's like, his name's Asher. She's like, um, it should be Dasher. He's so handsome. What about that plot twist?

Sutton and Asher. Oh my God. No, Diana would destroy her. Like she'd be gone. Like a heat-seeking missile would be on Sutton's house. Can't do that. We can't do that. Sorry.

Bad idea. Bad idea. Let's stick with the plot that we're adding that Erica goes to her house and ask for money. Okay. Yeah. I kind of like that. Bravo producers, if you're listening, get that on the books for later this season. I'm telling you.

ratings will skyrocket. How do you think the ratings are doing for this season? Good? I think fine, yeah. I don't know. I think they're doing, I think they, yeah, they got good, I saw like the first episode got good ratings. Yeah.

Well, after last season, after last season, I think it'll do fine. Very exciting. Well, Taylor, thank you so much for joining. Of course, Dylan. Thank you so much. I'm like very, like, so shocked that I'm, wasn't a replacement. I wasn't an afterthought. I was the real deal this time.

and this bang energy. I'm not going to have got me buzzing right now. Okay. I have cold brew in one hand, bang energy and the other. So I'll be buzzing for you. Money can't buy you class, baby.

That's all I got to say about that one. I'm seeing the new Top Gun movie tonight. I'm going to have to pee like six times. You're not going to be able to sit still. I actually have a lot of packing to do. So this is probably good. Well, everyone,

thank you for listening. Go drink an energy drink. if you feel like it. I wouldn't recommend the blue razz flavor. You don't like? It's a little much. Rainbow unicorn is honestly delicious. Glad to hear it.

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