Mention It All - Every Rumor Has A Price Ft. Dolores Catania

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

Hot off this season’s RHONJ premiere, Paterson legend Dolores Catania is in the studio to mention it all with Dylan. They chat about her eight-season journey on the show and how this year marked a shift in the cast dynamics. Dolores unpacks her constant efforts to maintain her relationships with the group and when neutrality is no longer an option. She also discusses her relationship with Paulie and why she doesn’t need a ring on her finger to feel secure. Later, she discusses the role social media plays on the show and why she’s not interested in tea from strangers. She and Dylan also talk about the goals for this season and how being on the show has opened up her life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents Ha ha ha laugh funny Mention It All A Bravo by Betches podcast We don't say that but now we said it With me Dylan Hafer Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast

I'm Dylan Hafer I am so excited That Real Housewives of New Jersey Is back for another season Season 14 And we have a housewife In the studio today Dolores Katania hello

Hello How you doing I'm so good This place just gives me good energy vibes. I'm all excited to be here. Just the colors, your shoes. Dylan, you're adorable. I mean, you look adorable too.

You look beautiful. So this is like a Palm Royal kind of vibe I'm going with because I'm obsessed. Yeah, it's good. And Margaret was just in, she was like in Palm Beach. Yeah, because she's with Mindy Cohen. Right. Who's on the show. Yeah.

Yeah, we're friends. You know who she is. Mindy Cohen is Natalie from Facts of Life. Oh, okay. And also Thelma from Scooby-Doo. Oh, I didn't know that. A little fun facts. Good to know.

Well, we have another show to talk about today. Okay. You know I was kind of procrastinating that, but okay. That was what that whole thing was about. We're just here to recap Palm Royale. Let's talk about anything but the anxiety I'm going to get to just talk about this. So you guys, it's been a minute since you filmed this season. It's finally here.

We're back another year in Jersey. how does it feel? You know what? Every year is a gift. I have to say it's a gift for you. And it's a gift for me to be on. Because every year I'm like, oh my God, it's over. We're done.

We're done for. And then it's just a great season. So I never take it for granted. This is your eighth season, I think. Is it eighth or ninth? Something like that. Yeah, yeah. I came in season seven.

So do the math. Seven, eight, nine, ten. I think it's eight. You've, you've been a. around the block for a minute now. Yeah, for sure. This season is a little different in terms of who's speaking, who's avoiding. I want to say it's a different dynamics. Yeah. What do you think, you know, having been through a lot of different sort of iterations of what this franchise has gone through, like how does this season feel different going into it, both like from your perspective

filming and maybe for the viewers? So from my perspective filming, a lot of what you've seen over the years, is people get into fights and then they get back together. I don't see that happening with the difference of people that have, like the falling out, the bridges are burnt. If you wanted to call this season anything, it's burnt bridges. I think Melissa's tagline, it's like, it's easy to burn bridges when we're on fire. Okay. Well, yeah.

Plus, you know, there's meaning to that. Yeah. You are, I mean, you're so good at maintaining all of your. relationships within the group. I think that's something on this franchise more than any. It's like kind of, it's wild to even think about the fact that you're able to kind of like stay good with everyone. Right. So I say sometimes divine intervention that it's that I come out of it alive. But it hasn't been easy. So a lot of people, you only see what you see, but you don't see a lot of the things that I've dealt with off camera. Not everyone's always happy with me.

Right. I'm not always the popular girl because of that because I'm not picking a sign. and people call me Switzerland, which kind of offends me sometimes because it's not about being Switzerland. It's about being smart. I don't want to take somebody else's fight that I may not agree with, right? So if you're both my friends and I was friends with you before you got into a fight, I'm not going to support your beef. However, what I won't do is become friends with someone while they're in a fight with my friend.

Okay. Does that make sense? Right. It's like you, your existing relationships aren't necessarily being guided by someone else's feelings. Yeah. But that you do have loyalty when it comes to, you know, making new friends and, you know, choosing who you're going to form relationships with. And there's also boundaries that I've kept. Yes.

Like, I could be friends with everybody. But when somebody's in a huge fight, there are certain boundaries that I'll keep that. Maybe I won't be seen everywhere with them until things calm down. Like, I've always tried to respect everyone's feelings, right? Yeah. I was going to ask, so in terms of those boundaries, do you feel like this season with things being, you know, the bridges are burnt, like you said, do you feel like your boundaries were still kind of respected by most people? Or was it harder? Did you have to kind of reinforce them more?

Well, nobody respects boundaries around here, by the way. So it was the boundaries I've set within myself. Like, you know what? If you just did something really horrible to my friend. And then all of a sudden you're like, hey, let's go out to dinner. You're my friend. But right now I'm going to pass on that dinner until things just cooled down a little bit. I'm still going to be your friend.

But I don't need to throw it in everybody's face. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like we don't need to go out for an Instagram picture to say I'm on your side. I know all about that shit. Yeah. I feel like that's one thing where it's like on, you know, over the course of seasons, on any Housewives show, on any Bravo show.

it's like there is that kind of game that it's like, okay, like we're going to this event together, even if we're not filming and everybody sees kind of like who's in the team together. And that's something I feel like you are a little more selective about. I'm a little more selective about that. Correct. It doesn't mean I like anybody less or love anybody less. If I call you a friend, I call you family. But I just try to be, you know, just like careful with overdoing it. Yeah. If somebody's mad at me because I'm still friends with someone they don't like, that's too bad. That I will never compromise. So there's ways around it. And I don't ever tell one person what the other person said about

them because they don't really need to hear it. Not everybody needs to know everything because I don't want them to stay apart. I want them to make up again. That makes my life easier and makes a great show. Like we need to go on vacation together, guys. Let's at least try not to kill each other. Yeah. I feel like that's why we had to have Jen Fessler's birthday in the premiere because it's like everybody's going to say yes to this invitation. Exactly. Jen Fessler's funny She is She was

So this is her second season on the show Rachel and Danielle's second season also I don't think we talked last season Can you can you just tell me a little bit About those three kind of what you feel like they have brought to the show Because you guys had the same cast for A long time And we always used to say

We don't even have a lot of girls But we carried a show As friends of I think they brought They brought it They did. And being new and being young for Danielle and Rachel, you know, there's, there's an aspect to that that there's something for every viewer. You have to give something to everybody, right? We're very, I feel like Jersey's the most relatable period.

So now we have something, maybe they can, somebody who's watching can relate to something they're going through with their kids or something like that or friendships, new friendships. You know, when you get to be our age, you're not surprised at what people do. You just aren't. It's all been done and said. Show me something that hasn't been done to me by a man, by a woman. Like, you know, we're pretty wise. But now you have the new one going through this, the younger ones going through it newly. And they handle things a little differently. Yeah. I guess on your show it's now it's like, because you and Margaret have like adult kids, you know, who are like off with careers and stuff. And yeah, exactly. With Melissa and Teresa, kids going to college. You know, that that dynamic is very interesting. And then, you know, Rachel and Danielle have. babies. So we have something for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting. I mean, even like with you on the premiere, you're talking to Teresa about like Gabriella going off to school, like kind of going through those periods. Yeah. And you know, I like that a lot of times people reach out to me about the experiences we're going through in life. How did you handle this? How did you handle your divorce?

How did you handle raising your kids? How do you handle getting along with your ex? I like that. I want to be able to get back and go through something not in vain. So I like that you can reach out to all of us and find and get something out of us if you wanted. Yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of different life, life stages and life experiences that people can kind of like, you know, find the thing that they latch on to a little bit. So good. So good.

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It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Now that you've been on the show for such a long time, we've seen you with Polly now for a couple seasons. It's not like so fresh anymore. Do you feel more like settled about sharing things? Like, was it kind of... I'm never settled about sharing my relationship.

because I'm shy about it. Okay. I don't show my emotions. I'm not a crier in public. I'm not like a mushy person. So I get like feeling like shy about that sometimes still, you know? I think it's tricky also because when you bring something on the show like a relationship or, you know, whatever, it's like people feel like they can ask every question right away. I mean, I feel like people were asking about you and Polly getting engaged.

Like the first time we ever heard you were together. Like it's a lot. Look at my age. Look at where I am in my life. Do you think that's my absolute goal? It's not. I've been there. I've have children.

I've been married. I want peace in my life. I want someone who's committed to me and someone who loves my kids as much as I do. That's my goals. That's it. The rest. I got to walk around with a big fat ring. I can get a big fat ring every day.

You know what I mean? Do I want to have a big party wedding? I think I'd be shy to do that. You know, I don't need that I don't need. I need someone who is good to me and someone who speaks nicely to me. Yeah. And I think that's something where like when you do share the relationship on the show, it's like people getting to know kind of that side of you.

Like you said, you don't share your emotions all the time. But it's like you can tell when someone's happy and something is, you know, improving your life. Of course. And that doesn't, a ring doesn't define a relationship. a marriage doesn't define because tomorrow's not promised to anybody I mean a marriage can end tomorrow mine could still keep going

I mean you just don't know I don't think those those things are important if you're young I don't tell any relationship that's young to waste their time with someone who isn't going to give them a ring or give them a future no no no no no don't do what I don't think it's okay because I do it I'm 53

if you're a young girl and that guy stringing you along or you're in a relationship and that person is stringing you along then you got to go. I feel like you could do like a relationship advice show or something. I might be able to. You know, I'm divorced 25 years.

I think, see, that's an interesting thing because Frank Sr. has been so present on the show, I think people forget that like, you guys weren't together, you know, right before you came on the show or,

you know, a few years ago. It's like, there's been a lot of life. I got divorced when I was 28 years old. I got divorced. So, you know,

I could have gotten, I'm married again. But I mean, I'm okay with the way things are. I don't have to be married. I'm not against it. I'm not saying I won't get married. I'm not saying I would say no if I got engaged. I'm not saying any of that,

but I don't live for that. Yeah. You people, by the way, loved seeing that you were at Britney's bridal shower a few weeks ago. And it's second nature to me. Yeah. I'm so happy for them. Yeah. I really am.

She looked beautiful. He walked her in. It was a, you know, a beautiful big wedding slash shower looking thing. You know, it was DJ and smoke gun and she was dancing with her friends all night. Very Jersey. Very Jersey. It was so Jersey. She had more hair than Teresa on her wedding day.

And the flowers were like a wedding at the Plaza Hotel. Like you would think like it was a tree on the table. Beautiful, beautiful. Great. I mean, the food brands, so nice. and they're having a destination wedding, which we're all going to. It's in Captiva. That's great.

That's awesome. I mean, I think like that's another thing where you say you're all in different phases of life. You have different things people can relate to. I think figuring out kind of how to navigate, you know, okay, my ex is with someone new and they're still in our lives. And how does that look? Like, everybody really does have those different dynamics. And I think it's like so nice to see that.

At my age, yeah, you're going to get a lot of that. You're going to date someone who's been married and they have kids. you're going to not get, but you have to find the best and everything. You're not going to get along with everybody. Your kids may not mend with the other kids. Are we going to see Frank Sr. on the show this season? Yeah.

Okay. Because I noticed he wasn't at Jen's party and I'm like, I know, I mean, for such a long. Yeah, yeah. I think he wasn't there. I don't know. No, I, you know. There's a lot going on. No, you're right.

He wasn't. Frank may have been away. Okay. He was invited. He opened up four dispensaries. Oh, wow. Yeah. Frank's got, he's very.

Very busy. I mean, Frank is like, he's like a hot commodity on this show. I mean, I always think it's funny at BravoCon when you have the Jersey ladies and the Jersey guys. And it's like, y'all are like top tier celebrities in that building. Frank Katania gets a standing ovation. I wonder, you know, we're not doing BravoCon this year. I'm like, by 2025, I'm so sad about that.

Do you think we'll have one one jersey panel? Will everybody be able to be on stage together? You're lucky if we could even be in the same room together when, you know, in New York, when we all get together for the reunion, you'll be lucky. I know. So this. We might have to do it by like between a plexiglass like they do in jail. Like you got to pick up the phone and talk to the person through there. Well, we do have, it was interesting at BravoCon last year, I remember seeing who who was on which panel was a little bit interesting.

And we have some, some shifting tides in the group this season. Seeing Rachel and Danielle really connect in the premiere, I thought was... Which is nice. It makes sense. It makes sense, you know, that they... They have a lot in common. You know, they're at the same stage of their lives. Yeah.

But we see in the season trailer that Danielle and Jennifer are having some issues. And Jackie is now friendly with Teresa and with Jennifer. That's all true. Yeah. Being in a place of kind of good with everyone, how do you kind of view those changes? Because I know some people in your cast have strong feelings about... sort of shifting. So this is how I feel about this. If a relationship is built on sincerity, I'm all for everyone getting along. I want more than anything. You will see this year how hard

I've tried. And behind the scenes, how hard I've tried to make everyone come together to make people put things aside to keep this friend group together because the last time we were in Ireland together was a beautiful time. Like it was a good time. Yeah, that trip was really good. That was good. We had girls night that's my this is my sorority so whoever's listening like if you had your sorority sisters all together you want them together for life right you guys meet once a year you just have fun you just go to things together like housewife shows and you just go on vacate like i wanted to keep this together so bad i just don't know where to go from here because i don't know that the the new friendships are built on um sincere things yeah yeah yeah

Yeah, like something like that. And listen, if they work out, they work out. God bless. I hope they all get along. But, you know, everything needs a strong foundation. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's tricky. I think once you've been kind of in the world of the group and the show for, you know, a handful of years, it's like figuring out who you can really trust, who, what is 100% genuine and what might be a little bit strategic or what are the intentions behind.

I'm all about intentions. And that's like even with Paul. Like I know his intentions for me are good. Yes. Everything is about me. He's very good to me. He wants to see me do better. Everything behind everything he does good.

And sometimes he's a pain, you know, when we have fights. But it's always a good intention behind it. So I can live with that. Yeah. But is the intentions good always with certain people? I'm not sure. Yeah. But it'll rear its ugly head, of course, if it's not.

Yeah. I think that's the kind of thing. If something is coming from a place that's not, sincere, it's only a matter of time kind of before something happens. I think Andy always says that it's like, if you come on housewives with skeletons in the closet, like it might be one season, it might be three seasons, but like we're going to see them eventually. Yeah, time will tell. Yeah. Good sleep is everything. That's why Ali's science back support is made with a blend of melatonin and L. Deionine for both kiddos and grownups. So when your mind won't switch off, you've got something

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in the premiere, it's John Fuda is a Bergen County's biggest drug dealer. Wow. Being the biggest drug dealer in Bergen County, I mean, it's not like it. you know, Patterson or something, like Bergen County. I'm not, I'm not afraid to walk down the street. I like John Fuda. John Fuda's an amazing father. Yeah. He's an amazing husband.

He's a good friend. So what he did when he was 18, I wouldn't, I judge him by what he's doing now, how he treats his family. We all have a story to tell, you know. Yeah. But thinking about there's always kind of like some, somebody's saying something, the streets are talking, what not. There's always a, like, you know, private investigator or whatever.

How much do you kind of pay attention to those types of things that are being spread around or somebody texted you something or? I do not open them. Yeah. I don't, listen, because that is an abyss. Once you start to get involved with the street talkers, now you're in trouble. And nothing's for free. If you become friends, if they give you information, now you owe them. It's like going to a shylock on the street.

Like, if you borrow money off them, there's a high. interest rate. Getting information off of somebody you don't know on Instagram, now you owe them. Yeah. Keep talking to them. Be their friends. They did you a favor. Yeah. You can't just not acknowledge that. Yeah. I mean, we were talking about Monica from Real House of Salt Lake City before we started. It's like, you know, everybody has DMs from somebody and then it's like, where does it, you know, where does it stop? Kind of. It doesn't. It's an abyss. And it's hard not to open that. It's hard not to say, oh my God, that's juicy information. It may even be about. me. It may be about something somebody's doing to me. But once you engage, it's like you open the

floodgates. So I don't. How do you feel about, I think. As a matter of fact, like, let me just tell you. You ask me, like, what do I think about? I'm not interested. Yes. I, unless somebody says it to my face, I'm really not interested. Well, I think that also goes to like what you were saying about when you have an existing relationship with somebody that you, you're going to judge them on what, happens between you. And if somebody's coming from the side with some unconfirmed whatever, you still have that relationship. Right. So there's history. Yes. There's knowing that person. There's that person's history with other people. When you know someone, you could say, no, sorry, let me check with her first. And a good friend will do that. A good friend will not turn on you

when somebody comes to you with something, no matter how much they blow smoke up your ass. You're the greatest. You're the best. Oh my God. You know what she did to you? Why don't I? you, you know, what's that intention? What's that person's intention coming to you to give you information about a friend to your friend? Okay, sit down with that person and ask them, why aren't we friends? Yeah. Did you say this? Did you do this? Under what context, could it be misconstrued? Mm-hmm. It was interesting in the, in the first episode when Louis texted John Fuda to try and talk, and then he wanted to talk at the party, and Louie ended up not being there. But seeing Polly kind of try to, maybe try to play the Dolores role a little bit with the guys.

Don't try. How do you think it's different with the men trying to kind of be in the middle and navigate things versus the women? You'll see, Jen Fessler tries to do that too. Here's what I say. You cannot ration with somebody who's emotional. Emotions do not travel in rational channels. Polly has to understand they were very emotional in that moment.

it's not the time to try to explain something. It's not the time to try to talk somebody down because they're coming in hot. They're emotional. They're upset. You know, let it die. Oh, you're right. You know what? I understand what you're saying.

I see your point. We'll talk another time. I felt that because, you know, I think John was kind of like, it feels like you're on taking Louis's side. And I could sense that like, Polly was just kind of trying to like explain maybe where somebody was coming from versus actually like defending them. Right. Not the time to do it when somebody's upset and emotional. In this group a lot of times also when somebody calls for a meeting, it's like, I'm not doing it on your time. You're not doing it. I'm not doing it on your time. And like they go back

at each other and then nothing happens. Like I'll tell you when I want to sit. No, I'll tell you when I want to sit. Yeah. It's like crazy. At a certain point, I think it goes back to the thing of of being genuine. And that it's like if two people both really care about moving on from something, then you find the time. You find the space for it. Somebody's got to eat shit. If you want to move on from something, you have to say, okay, I don't believe you're sorry, maybe. I do believe you did it. But I'm going to leave it here and I'm going to get past it for whatever reason, because they were a good friend to you for other reasons, because people make mistakes.

sensibly is this worth killing a friendship over? So you either accept it and say, listen, there's no excuse for what the person did. There's not always an excuse for what someone did. Someone's not always going to tell you the truth about they did it. Don't look for the truth. Don't look for the excuse. If you really want to move past it, then just fucking do it.

Drop it. And don't bring it up every fucking time you get in a fight. Let it go. Let it go. Yeah. I think it's tough. Sometimes it's like we spend. years like saying that we want to move on from something, but then also coming up with every

excuse to not move on from something. Then you really don't want to. Because if I can forgive people in my life, hence Frank Katania, and move on from it because I wanted to. I wanted to. I could still be a bitter woman. And you know, when you walk around with that, that's an anchor. If you want to walk around with, why did somebody do this to me? Why, why, why? There's not always a reason. People screw up. Yeah. How do you feel about the, the idea of men getting involved in the women's conversations? I don't like men getting involved with the women's conversations. I think our men get involved with their own conversations.

They have their own show here, within our show. Yes. That's what it is. However, I don't find it very manly for a man to jump in on a woman's argument. I just don't. Yeah. I think, I mean, just in anticipation, impatient of this season. I think people have a lot of reactions to the moments between John and

Teresa that are in the in the preview. Well, that was their argument together. Right. More so. That was John and Teresa arguing. And I, you know, I don't love that either. But I don't like when, like I try to keep men when I, in my life, in my relationship, men should know as little as possible about especially an argument. Yeah. I'm not going to go crying home. Would you believe what she did to me? No, don't get this. Don't get him involved. They just don't do things right.

Then they're going to make it bigger. And then they get involved. Like, it's just better that. Yeah. Well, it's always the thing of like, oh, like, I thought I was just like venting to you. And then now you want to like do something about it. Now you want to do something about it. I'm over it.

I vent it. And now you want to be mad. And now things are awkward. It's like, oh, like, no, mom, don't call the principal. Like, I just want it's a single plate. Like, if I can't vent to you. you without you making a thing, then I'm not going to tell you things. Right.

And I don't want to hear it again. I don't want to throw it in my face. I don't want to talk about it. I vent it. Let me take it from here. You give me your advice. You tell me if I'm overreacting. You tell me if my friends are content, whatever it is you want to do, but you leave it here.

This conversation stays here. I'll handle it from here. So where Rachel gets John involved, tell my husband to his face where you're saying, I don't do that. I don't agree with that. I love Rachel, but I don't agree with that. move because now you have John arguing with a woman and that's not going to maybe go over well with a lot of people.

Yeah. Rachel can very well, is very well able to handle herself and Teresa. She shouldn't have probably dragged John into it in that moment. Yeah. I think that's part of what people responded to about Rachel in the first season was that she showed up and she was there. She was there for it. You know, she was totally handling her own.

And she knows her husband, you know, is probably getting. get upset about that and probably say things that he should. That's why like, yeah, I don't like to get men worked up. Yeah. Especially not men. You got a lot of men with personalities, let's say. Not Italian guys. You know, the Italian guys, they get all excited.

You got to keep them calm. Wait, I was laughing so hard when you said that Polly can't eat Italian food. Oh, God. Forget it. Two days in bed from a meatball. That's a tough one. So I don't cook. Look, you know.

I don't know what he wants me to make. Plain potatoes. I don't care. You're like some stew. Where's the Buzan eagle? I don't know. Where's my Italian breadcrumbs? I know.

The progressive. That's tragic not being able to eat Italian food. I'm sorry, Paul. You'll have to get over it. I'm curious. You've been on the show a long time. You're used to kind of the cycle of it, you know, filming, watching. seeing, you know, confessionals, everything like that.

How is it for you these days watching the show, seeing social media conversations, all of that? Like, what's your mindset when the season is airing? What do you mean the social? I don't think things should be happening on social media. No, I'm talking about, like, fans. Oh. You'll know what I'm talking about. I think I do.

What about the fans? How they, well, listen, our fans become. a part of us. Yeah. Let's just say Jersey is a show that creates strong reactions in people. Right. Because that's the, that's what we act like. You know, we get the same vibes back that we give. Yeah. Our fans are very passionate the way we are. But do you, so when the show's airing, do you, are you, are you reading comments? Are you, are you seeing things? Or do you kind of like put it over there? And well, listen, I look at a lot of dogs on Instagram. That's where I spend most of my time. I look at a lot of like body transformations. Like if somebody loses a lot of ways, I'm so happy for them and things like that.

I don't really look at all the comments. I try to get back to everybody. Like I try to look at them, but there's so many. You know, I find them really funny, like things like that. But for my show, I try to not look as much. Yeah.

I think it's tough because people, people feel so strongly in, in one direction or another. And the thing about watching the show is that there's no correct answer necessarily. Like Paul, there was no correct. Like there was nothing he could have said in that moment. Yeah. Except for I hate Louis.

That would have made anybody happy. I hope Louis gets hit by a train. Then he would have had a nice conversation with everybody. But that's, you can't always tell them what they want to hear. Yeah. And it's not going to go for well, but it makes a good show. Mm-hmm. So this season, obviously, it's just getting started.

I don't know, like we've said, the bridges have been burned. I don't know if we can expect necessarily like one big happy family at the end of it. But what do you feel like is kind of the, maybe the goal of this season from your perspective in the group? To start off the season, my goal was to get them back to being civil. Actually, by the time I left, my goal was to have whoever's closure at this point that needed to be. So be it.

And let's take it from there. because it gets crazy. You'll see. Yeah. Well, and it's also like at a certain point, it's like, I've done what I can do, you know. Absolutely. You can't like, you know, lose sleep over people who just don't want to be friends. You know, just like any relationship, when you look in the mirror and you throw your hands up and you say, I've done everything that I could do and now I'm done.

You know what to throw in the towel. Yeah. It comes to that and, you know, so be it. Like, whatever's done, let it be done. let it be done already. Well, I think, I mean, I think your position of neutrality is very important on this show, more than ever. Thank you.

Thank you. Yeah. It is. It is. But it's not the way I wanted it. Yeah. Do you think, you know, it's been a long time now that you've been on the show, when you kind of look back over the course of it, like how do you feel like, have you changed as a person

being on the show? Or do you feel like it's helped you kind of unlock any person? part of yourself? Yeah. So my first time on the show, my first year, I didn't want to come out of my room because they were having a birthday party for me. And there was maybe all of 15 people in a room. And I was so like, oh my God, I can't do this. I can't take this. I can't accept this. And somebody on the show said to me, you have to learn to take. And you have to learn to love yourself. And you have to learn your worth and you deserve this part. But for me, you would have thought it was a thousand people and millions of dollars and I

could not come out of my room. I'm like, this is too much for me. It can't be about me. So I learned that it's okay to let someone give you something. I learned it was okay to have girlfriends that you could talk to. And I learned that it's okay to share your feelings and not be so ashamed of if you're upset about something or if something's hurt you or whatever. And I learned, you know, I just learned a lot from other people like mistakes that they make, I see. There's a lot of things.

I grew, I grew a lot. I think that's amazing though, because I mean, I think a lot of women that I've talked to who come on housewives as, you know, mothers, as people who have worked really hard for a lot of their life. It is an opportunity to kind of like come into yourself. Come into yourself. Maybe a new phase of life. You know, receive love and, you know. Yeah, I spent a lot of my life alone and internalizing things and dealing with things on

my own. And I think that's really what prepared me for this part of my life and these friends and this part of it all. But have I changed at all as a person or I still go to Patterson every day. hang out with my friends and you know not every day but as much as I can and my friends my friends yeah that's cool people love your family too thank you like I'll still go to my mom's house and scrub her floors people love Valerie oh Valerie's so good she's so selfless and I'm so blessed to have a mother that taught me what's the most important things in life and it's not

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